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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the deep dive. Our mission is always
the same, take that huge stack of research and data
you have and turn it into something you can actually use.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And today we are taking a really practical trip. I
think we're heading to the heart of Southeast Asia, to.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
The Kingdom of Wonder Cambodia, exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And it's a compelling topic because you know, Cambodi in
twenty twenty five is at this critical point. It's moving
past being just a backpacker stop right.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's becoming a genuine long term destination for all sorts
of expats. We're talking digital nomads, retirees trying to stretch
their pensions, even professionals.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's a very broad spectrum now.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Absolutely, and the sources we've looked at they paint this
picture of a country in well rapid and sometimes pretty
chaotic transition.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Uh huh. You have this profound history, you know, and
Korwatt side by side with this buzzing, modern and very
much US dollar driven economy.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
That's our goal today. We want to be precise. We're
going to distill the absolute latest facts and figures to
give you our listener a shortcut to understanding the real
trade offs of living there.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Everything from like the cost of a draft beer to
the non negotiable cost of medical evacuation insurance.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
To really get this, though, we have to start with
the big picture, the economics.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You have to to set the context. You're looking at
a nation that has had one of the fastest growing
economies in all of Asia for what nearly two decades.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Now, and that's not just on paper, no, not at all.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
This growth is driven by really tangible things. Tourism is
bouncing back in a massive way, Manufacturing, especially garments, is huge,
and crucially, there's a ton of foreign investment pouring into
real estate and infrastructure.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So that economic engine is what's supporting everything else, the
whole expat infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's the bedrock. It fuels the modern appeal that sits
right alongside the ancient temples, and it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Creates this unique blend we're here to unpack. You get
this extreme affordability right next to this deep cultural richness,
but now with a viable modern layer on top.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's not just a budget destination anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
No, it's a high quality of life on a budget destination.
But and this is a big butt, only if you
know exactly how to manage those trade offs.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It's the fiber optic internet, the air conditioned malls, the
rooftop bars, all of it appearing in this ancient setting.
That's what's so intriguing for people looking to stay long term.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, let's unpack this. Let's dive straight into that core
appeal that keeps pulling people in. The big one affordability
and the warmth of the local culture. When you read
what expats say about why they stay in Cambodia, you know,
it always goes beyond just the money. Always they talk
about the atmosphere, the local vibe, and they specifically mention
the Khmer smile. Our sources bring this up again and again.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's this genuine warmth, this friendliness from the locals, and
it suggests that, you know, integrating socially is just easier,
more welcoming than in a lot of neighboring countries.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
That cultural piece, it's not a small thing.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It's foundational to the quality of life. It creates this
relax easygoing atmosphere that you feel in your daily interactions,
even in the cities, even in the bustling capital. The
pace of development is intense, sure, but underneath it all
there's still this traditional Kremer hospitality. You don't get that
aggressive transactional feeling you might find elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And you can literally see the development happening. I mean,
you look at Phon on Pen's skyline and it's not
just changing, it's exploding.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It's fascinating. You've got these beautiful, low slung French colonial
buildings right next to these massive modern skyscrapers and condos.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You're watching a country evolve in real time. It's a
bit clumsy sometimes, but it's always moving fast.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Which brings us to the magnet, the financially reason that
makes it all possible. And this is where Cambodia really
stands out.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, this is the part everyone's waiting for, the data
that lets you figure out if this is actually feasible
for you. So what are the numbers for late twenty
twenty five?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Affordability is still Cambodia's single biggest advantage, and the secret
weapon here is the dollarization of the economy.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Explain that why is that so important?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well, unlike Thailand or Vietnam, where your income can get
hit by a fluctuating a local currency, Cambodia runs on
the US dollar for most big transactions. Rent, major purchases.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's all in USD so you get incredible stability. If
you're earning in dollars or even euros.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Or pounds exactly, you're looking at a cost of living
that is, i mean often fifty to seventy five percent
lower than the US or Western Europe, but without that
headache of worrying about exchange rates every single day.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That stability is a huge deal. It completely changes how
you think about risk for retirement or long term planning.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It absolutely does. And our data shows some remarkably accessible budgets.
Even in the big cities, a single xpact can live comfortably.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, hold on, I want to push back on that
word comfortably. What does that actually mean? Are we talking
about just scraping by or genuinely having a good life.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's a fair question. So let's say you're on a
budget of about one thousand to fifteen hundred dollars a month.
That's the wheat spot for comfort and that includes that
includes a nice apartment, eating out regularly, a good social life.
You know, you're not living like a monk. Now, this
is without like high end luxury spending or paying for
international schools, which we'll get to So.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
For someone with a decent pension or a modest remote salary,
it's life altering.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It is you are literally buying time and freedom, even
if you know, saving huge amounts of cash is still
a bit tricky on the lower end of that scale.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Understood, what about for a couple or someone who really
wants to maximize their savings.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
For a couple, the budget is extremely manageable. You can
live very well on two thousand dollars or less just
by sharing housing and utilities.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And if you go outside the main cities.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The costs just plummet. If you go to a smaller town,
you could have a genuinely comfortable lifestyle on a budget
of say six hundred to nine hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Let's break that down into the details, because that's what
people remember. Housing is always the biggest expense. What should
people expect to pay?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Okay, so let's take phenomen pen. The most popular expat
area is a place called BKK one. It's the prime
most westernized neighborhood cafes, gyms, service departments, the.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Works, and even there, even there.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
A modern western style one bedroom apartment is only going
to set you back about four hundred to eight hundred
dollars a month.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
That's phenomenal value, it is.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And if you go somewhere like seam Reap or the
riverside town of Camppod, that same apartment drops to maybe
three to five hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And local style housing, if you're willing to.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Go for older buildings, fewer western amenities, you can find
places for as little as two to three hundred dollars.
The leverage you get on housing is what drives the
whole low budget equation.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
All right, what about food? Is it all local food
all the time or can you find comforts from home?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It's all about balance. This is what decides if you're
on a thousand dollar budget or a fifteen hundred dollars one.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So if you need your imported cheese and brand name snacks.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You're looking at maybe two three hundred a month for gross.
But the real savings, and frankly, the better experience comes
from the local food scene. If you eat local from
markets and street vendors, your total food cost can be
under one hundred and fifty a month.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And eating out, that's where it really feels like a
luxury rt.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Exactly, a great local meal is what two to five
dollars for a huge plate of food. If you want
a nice Western restaurant, Italian a good steak, you're still
only looking at maybe eight to fifteen dollars for a
proper sit down meal.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Okay. Utilities air conditioning can be a silent budget killer
in the tropics, it can.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Be Electricity for AC will probably run you fifty to
one hundred a month, especially in the hot season. But
the crucial part for digital nomads, the Internet is excellent
and cheap. Fast fiber Wi Fi is about twenty.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Dollars a month, So the infrastructure for remote work is there.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's robust and it doesn't break the bank.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And getting around super cheap.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You use tuctuks or ride hailing apps like grab. Most
rides are just a dollar or two, or you can
rent a scooter for fifty to one hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Finally, the fun part entertainment. This is where that low
cost translates directly into quality of life.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
The sources all highlight this. I mean we have to
mention the famous fifty cent draft beer. At most expat bars,
a beer is fifty cents to a dollar.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It means a whole night out, dinner, drinks, everything rarely
costs more than twenty bucks.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So if we step back, what's the real takeaway from
this affordability? What does it do for you?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It enhances your lifestyle. Because your basic needs are so cheap,
you can afford things that would be absolute luxuries back home,
like what like hiring domestic help, a cleaner, a cook,
maybe even a driver. All of that becomes accessible on
a pretty modest income.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It buys back your time, and it frees up cash
for travel.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Exactly frequent weekend trips, exploring the country, flying around Southeast Asia.
You end up living a much bigger life than your
budget would ever allow back in the West.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So you're basically converting a middle class income into a
luxury experience. As long as you can navigate the environment,
it just flips the whole financial equation on its head.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Precisely. It gives you a level of comfort and flexibility
that's almost impossible to find anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Okay, so we know why people want to go. Let's
talk about the practical side of actually getting in and
settling down. Visas are often a huge pain point for expats.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They are, but our sources say Cambodia is incredibly lenient
and flexible on this It's it's a dream for anyone
who hates paperwork and constant visa runs.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
No more flying to a neighboring country every ninety days
just to get a new stamp in your passport exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's a foundational piece of the country's appeal. It lets
you actually settle in.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So what are the options for someone who wants to
stay long term.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, most people arrive on a standard thirty day tourist
visa that's about thirty thirty five dollars, but that's just
to get you in the door. The real key is
the ordinary visa or E class business visa.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That sounds official. Does it mean you actually need to
have a job with a Cambodian company.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And that's key thing. No, it's called a business visa,
but it's really the default long term visa for pretty
much everyone. Retirees, remote workers, freelancers, you name it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So how does it work.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
It starts as a thirty day visa costs about thirty
five dollars, but the crucial feature is that it is
extendable indefinitely. You can get extensions for one, three, six
or twelve months. The full year costs around three hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Dollars, and you just keep renewing it year after year.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Year after year. It's a hassle free way to maintain
long term residency.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
This sounds almost too good to be true. I mean,
if you're a digital nomad working remotely, are you in
some kind of legal gray area using a business visa?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's a critical point. And yes, technically you are in
a gray area. Formal work permits are required if you're
employed by a Cambodian company.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
But the reality on the ground.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
The reality is tolerance. The government is happy to collect
the visa extension fees and have foreigner spending money in
the country for remote workers, it's a risk that is
widely accepted by the ex pack community. Just keep your
visa current.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And what about for retirees? Is there an even easier path?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Absolutely, there's the retirement extension or ER visa for anyone
over fifty five. It costs about the same, maybe two
hundred and ninety to three hundred a year.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And the key detail, the key detail.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Is that unlike Thailand, which has strict proof of income requirements,
Cambodia's ER visa requires no strict proof of income.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That is a game changer. It makes things so much
simpler for retirees who might have assets but not a
single large monthly pension deposit.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Immensely simpler. And there's a huge network of visa agents
who will handle all the paperwork for you for a
small fee. The system is designed to keep you there,
not push you out.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Okay, so getting in is easy. Now where do you
actually live? The country seem to have these really starkly
different options.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It doesn't you have to match the location to your personality.
The main expat spots offer completely different experiences.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Let's start with the biggest phenom pen Fompen.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Is the capital in every sense of the word. It's
the chaotic, beating heart of the country. If you need
that urban energy, five star hotels, big malls, endless dining options,
this is it.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And it has the biggest XPAC community by far.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's the most diverse. You have areas like the Riverside
which is packed with cafes and bars, and then neighborhoods
like BKK one that are full of upscale expat focused spots.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So that's the hub for professionals, younger nomads, people who
want action. What's the alternative? What about seam Reap.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Seam Reap is a totally different vibe. It's the cultural
capital right next to enkhor Watt. It's much slower, more relaxed, but.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It still has a social scene.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Oh yeah, it is a vibrant nightlife around pub Street.
But the expac community there is often described as more
tight knit. It's more focused on community, arts, wellness. It's
for a slower, more historical lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Then you have the Coast, but our sources say you
need to be really careful here. There are huge differences.
You do.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The coast is for beach lovers, but you have to
understand the Contrastville is a major case study in controversial
super fast development.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
What does that mean on the ground.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It means it's been totally transformed by foreign investment, mostly
in casinos and real estate. It went from a sleepy
port town to a massive construction site almost overnight, so
it lost its charm for some. Yes, it's highly developed now,
but it also has issues with congestion and infrastructure stream
it's a very different place than it was a decade ago.
A real frontier market story.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And how does that compare to the other coastal spots.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The contrast is huge. You have the pristine tropical islands
like ko Wrong which are a classic remote escape, though
with less reliable internet.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And then there's Campo right.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Campoll offers this beautiful riverside tranquility. It's known for its
pepper and its very laid back bohemian atmosphere. And you
also have Kep which is famous for its crab and
quiet beaches.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So you really have to pick your pace of life
very carefully.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
What's fascinating here is just the range you can choose from.
You can have the super urban life in fanham Pen,
or you can go for the authentic, artsy charm of
a smaller town like Bottombang, which is much more relaxed.
The diversity of the expat experience is just incredible.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It sounds like whether you want to be near a
massive nightclub or a quiet pepper field, Cambodia has a
spot for you. Let's get into the day to day
logistics of life there, starting with something huge the climate.
The tropical dream can also be a tropical reality.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It really can. It's a pronounced tropical climate that means
it's hot year round, averaging say eighty to ninety five
degrees fahrenheit. But you have to understand the seasons. They
dictate everything.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Okay, so what's the best time of year. The golden season, that's.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
The cool and dry season from about November to February.
Coolest relative of course, it's more like seventy five to
eighty five degrees lower humidity. It's perfect peak tourist season,
best time for expats. And then comes the challenge, And
then comes the challenge. From March to May, you get
the hot season. This is oppressive heat, temperatures hitting night
ninety five even over one hundred degrees with high humidity.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
What do long term expats do?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
A lot of them leave if they can, They take
trips around the region during that period. You have to
factor in the physical and honestly the emotional toll of
that constant heat. It's a real energy grain, So.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
That fifteen hundred dollars budget might need a line item
for an escape flight. What comes after the heat.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
The rainy season from about June to October, you get
these heavy, spectacular afternoon downpours. They cool everything down, which
is a huge relief, but the downside, a downside is flooding.
The drainage systems, especially in parts of foam pen and
seam reap, just can't handle it. It can disrupt daily
life pretty significantly. Your commute might suddenly involve a flooded street.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So you trade the heat for mobility issues. Okay, let's
talk about jobs for those who need to earn a
local income.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Right. The job market is there, but you have to
see it through the lens of local wages. Salaries are modest,
but because the cost of living is low, they can
still provide a decent quality of life.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
What's the most common entry point for expats?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
English? Teaching is still number one. You can earn anywhere
from one thousand to two thousand dollars a month, depending
on your qualifications. And beyond teaching, there are a lot
of opportunities in the NGO and development sector, also hospitality
and tourism management, especially in manager level roles.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What about entrepreneurship. Is it easy to start a business?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's extremely popular. The setup costs are low, and there's
a growing market of expats and tourists, so you see
a lot of people starting bars, guesthouses, online businesses. The
environment really rewards initiative.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
One more thing on logistics, something that can completely change
the budget international schools.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yes, this is the budgetbuster for families. It's the single
biggest cost and it totally changes that one thousand, five
hundred dollars figure we were talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
So what are we looking at cost wise?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
For a good mid tier international school. You're looking at
five hundred to one thousand dollars a month per child.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And for the top tier schools it can easily be
fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars a month per child.
So if you have two kids, that cost alone can
be more than your rent, food and everything else combined.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
That's a crucial reality check that affordable lifestyle really applies
to singles or couples without kids in the school system precisely.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's the hidden variable that separates the digital nomad budget
from the expat family budget.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And finally, before we get to the downsides, there's a
strong social safety net right the expat community itself.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It's a huge asset. There are massive online groups like
Cambodia Expats Online where you can get instant advice on everything.
It provides this ready made support system that really helps
you settle in and navigate the challenges.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, we've laid out the appeal, the warmth, the affordability,
the lifestyle. Now we have to get to the dose
of reality, the critical trade offs.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
The things that make it genuinely challenging.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And our sources are unanimous on this. The single biggest drawback,
the biggest compromise is healthcare.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
This is non negotiable. Anyone considering a move, especially retirees,
has to understand this. The public healthcare system is, to
put it bluntly, basic and underfunded.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So what do expets do when they get sick?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
They rely completely on private clinics and a few international hospitals,
mostly in funnel Pen and seam Reap. These places have
English speaking staff and can handle routine issues fevers, infections,
minor injuries.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Is that kind of routine care expensive?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
No, Actually, a visit to a GP might only be
twenty to fifty dollars. The cost isn't the problem for
day to day stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
The problem is for something serious exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The problem is the capability of those facilities to handle
a major medical event, complex surgery, serious trauma, a heart attack.
For anything like that, evacuation is almost always required. Evacuation
to wear to Bangkok, which has world class hospitals or
to Singapore.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Which brings us to the absolute must have insurance.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It is essential. You must have international health insurance and
it absolutely must include emergency medical evacuation coverage.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
How much does that cost?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You're looking at between one hundred and three hundred dollars
a month, depending on your age and coverage. If you
skip this, you are taking a catastrophic financial risk. An
air ambulance flight alone can cost over thirty thousand.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Dollars, so you have to add that cost to your
monthly budget. It's the price you pay for a safety net.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's the price you pay for peace of mind. You
are trading money for certainty.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay, let's talk about infrastructure, the daily friction of living
in a developing country.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Right, the development is fast, but the underlying infrastructure is
still catching up. This means you deal with daily challenges.
Power outages are common, especially outside the main expat areas,
poor roads, poor roads once you get off the main highways,
and as we said, flooding during the rainy season that
can bring the city to a halt.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And then there's the bureaucracy.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
The administrative friction. Things are slow, there's a lot of
paper where and you sometimes encounter let's call them unofficial fees.
To get things moving, you have to have patience.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
What about personal safety? Is Cambodia is safe.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Generally yes, especially when it comes to violent crime, which
is low. The main thing you need to watch out
for is petty theft like bags matching exactly. Bag snatching
by foods on scooters is very common in tourist areas.
You have to be constantly aware of your surroundings, your phone,
your bag.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
But the biggest physical danger isn't crime.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, the unanimous consensus is that road safety is the
biggest daily risk to your life and limb. The traffic
is chaotic, so the key advice it's simple, but it's
life saving. Always always wear a helmet and drive defensively.
Assume that traffic rules are suggestions, not laws.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And there are also some historical risks to be aware
of if you venture off the beaten path.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes, this is important. The country is still dealing with
the legacy of its civil war. This means there is
still an occasional risk of unexploded land near remote borders.
Stick to marked paths, don't wander off into unmarked fields.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Finally, let's touch on the emotional toll, the things that
can wear you down over time.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
This is often what separates the people who stay long
term from those who leave after a year. You are
confronted daily with a visible and stark contracts between wealth
and poverty. For some that can be emotionally very taxing, and.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
The quality of life cons like traffic.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
And pollution, especially in funn Pen. Yes, the congestion and
air quality can be a real grind.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So if you connect this to the bigger picture, it
all comes down to that trade off.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It does. That amazing comfortable lifestyle on fifteen hundred dollars
a month comes with a clear set of compromises. You're
trading financial ease for a need for constant vigilance about
your health, your safety on the road, your belongings. You
have to constantly ask yourself if the freedom is worth
the friction.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's the cost of adventure, and it's paid in patience
and vigilance, not just dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
That's a perfect way to put it. You're trading certainty
or a level of freedom and experience you just can't
get in the developed world. So let's pull all this together.
Based on what we've covered, who is the ideal expat
that really thrives in Cambodia.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It really seems like it's for a specific type of person,
someone seeking genuine adventure, who puts affordability above almost everything else,
and who really wants a slower, more culturally rich pace
of life.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Retirees do incredibly well there, thanks to that easy visa
and the low cost of living. Digital nomads find it
a perfect base, low costs, good internet, and that stable
dollarized economy.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And I think critically it's for anyone who is willing
to truly embrace a developing country environment, someone who accepts
the compromises we've been talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Right, if your non negotiables are top tier healthcare right
next door, or perfectly predictable infrastructure, or if you just
can't handle the.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Heat, then you might want to look at alternatives exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Maybe Thailand or parts of Vietnam might be a better fit,
though you'll likely face higher costs and more vas hassles.
It's about being really honest with yourself about your own
risk tolerance and.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
About what you're willing to trade to get that financial freedom.
You know, our sources all ended with this common feeling
that many people who move to Cambodia. Never want to leave.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It gets under your skin, it really.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Does, and I think that reflects the unique addictive charm
of the place. It's rewarding despite the challenges.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It speaks to the power of that cultural warmth and
the lifestyle you can unlock with so little.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Money, Which brings us to our final provocative thought for you,
the listener. Given the incredible affordability and the genuine cultural
warmth that Cambodia offers, how much of your home country infrastructure,
the perfect roads, the instant power, the efficient bureaucracy, the
gold standard healthcare are you actually willing to compromise?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
How much is that freedom and that different pace of
life really worth to you.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's a fundamental personal trade off, and it's one that
only you can answer for yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Something to think about.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
That's all the time we have for this deep dive.
Thank you for joining us.