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February 21, 2025 • 101 mins
The Nintendo Switch 2 Dual Screen Dream, could this be something Nintendo considers? Also, Gold Points are leaving My Nintendo, there's a Pokemon Presents NEXT WEEK and MORE this week on the Nontendo Podcast | Supported by PATREON https://patreon.com/NontendoPodcast
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome on into the Non Tender Podcast. My name is
Kimberly toon and sat with me. Here is my beautiful husband,
Would Hawker. I am so pregnant right now? So pregnant?
How pregnant am I?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
This sounds like a setup for a bed.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
How pregnant am I? How pregnant?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
A seven is close to seven and a half at
this point.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
He's cooking, he's getting close, literally on track with the
switch to launch crazy. Two very exciting things happening. Actually
there's a third very exciting thing happening. And welcome on
and everybody. I was so so happy to have you,
so glad to have you. This is the moment, Kim.
Everyone's going to witness it at the same time, all right,

(00:49):
and then I'm going to talk about it. Okay, And
I lied. Here's nothing happened. Why did nothing happen?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
This is what happens when they have to run it
on my own. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, let me try again. Hot.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Huh everything was working because I did this probably three
two one.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah. Eric nailed it again.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, he nailed it. That was such a mess though,
because it cut out early and it took too long,
but here it is. It is the official new non
Tendo music. It starts a little quiet and then it
hits real loud. So I don't want to blow anybody out,
but listen to this, and how good Eric is.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I don't know if he I don't know how he
does it.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I was just gonna let him play.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I don't even care, dude, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Welcome to Nontendo twenty twenty five. Honestly, it gives me chills.
It's so good. I mean, this goes on for a
couple of minutes, but we're talking guitar, percussion.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
The instruments himself, doesn't he so the.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Sacks he highs out to a guy that he knows,
and it's the same guy that did the sacks for
the original song. Oh okay, so it's you know, it's
in the family. Still. Oh this is so good.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
So someone in chat said I like the old music
to be an outro or something. So I don't know
where these two songs are gonna fall, but I'm gonna
keep using them both. And I do picture one being
an intro and one being an outro. So this one,
to me, is really happy poppy vibes. Yeah, and then
this one, the original to me is very like late night,

(03:17):
late night show sort of.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, it does. It sounds like somebody like the guest
walking out.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah music. Yeah, So we might use them interchangeably. Maybe
one week it'll be one will be the intro, one
would be the outro. Maybe we'll fall into a place
where one is the intro and one is the outro.
Right now, I'm I'm kind of really vibing with it
being the I'm kind of vibing with this starting the
show like we go live and we have this in

(03:42):
the back, and then the new track is part of
the intro like we saw because by the way as well,
and I'm gonna play it again because I love it
so much. This was not intentional, because the new animation
intro that we had made or I had made for
the show this year lines up perfectly with the new
song Eric made, and they were not connected at all.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Oh I thought they were. I thought that was the whole.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, he just made the song and then he made
like a short fifteen second version. And I want you
to pay attention to the graphic when the joycon slide
off the sacks slides off and it's so perfect. Nope,
but oh let's do that.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
It's wrong.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I'm a mess today. Forty one days remain, but yeah,
pay attention to that. It's crazy. Oh that one worked.
I don't know why the first time it cut out soone.

(04:42):
So yeah, huge shout out to Eric and once again
nailed it. So we now have also with the Nintendo
Shop Music, we now have three official songs of the show.
I love how they all feel. I love how they
all make the show feel. And I also I kind
of want to upload them all separately as their own
songs on the channel so that people can listen to

(05:05):
them and enjoy them whenever and give credit to Eric
on the screen and be like, so at some point,
if you see all three of these get uploaded one
week randomly, that's why. Just know that. It's because I
want people to be able to enjoy these because they're
so good they are. I feel like all three of
these could be in an official Nintendo game soundtrack. Mario Party,

(05:27):
probably Mario Party, Mario kartt I mean, oh, this is
Mario k the Beach, this feels Maria Cup. I also
kind of hope that Nintendo allows us to like. So
I have this theory that maybe Nintendo will let you
add your own custom things to switch to, like your
own home screen, maybe even your own e shop music
would be really sick. Can you imagine I add this

(05:48):
to the shop? That would be so cool? Like it's
it's crazy, that's I mean, Eric made it, but it's
crazy that that's our song now and we own that.
Ham's calling again. What did I do wrong?

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Now?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Hey King? How you doing?

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Brother?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah? Good? Love the music?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Mm hmmmm, could for a minute, what did I do? Buddy?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Oh, you didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
B Could you just maybe hold the mic in the
other hand, because it's like the directional and woods voice
is getting picked up. That's why I didn't That's why
I didn't want to use that microphone. I don't know
if that's gonna help.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Is that gonna help? Because now I'm closer to his microphone.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Let me let me try it. Let me turn her.
But I turned her down a little bit, and I
turned me up a bit. How does it sound? Now
you're gonna have to wait, You're gonna have to wait
thirty secondads, But I'll keep talking and then you can
let me know. Also him is sick again or still?
I guess what do you have? Bud flu nova virus?

(06:56):
I think it sounds okay, thank you? What is chat?
But I'm not sick again, like I'm getting better. It's
just that, like I definitely had COVID and I don't
want to get Yeah, we cannot get Also, as soon
as we have this baby, I'm expecting to be sick
all the time. So if I could not be sick before,

(07:17):
then that would be fantastic. You'll catch me wearing a
mask in every episode. Oh my god, thank you for
doing that. I guess, all right, buddy, so protection Yeah,
I know I realized when I said that. So everything
sounds good? Can I get a one in chat? If
everything sounds good? Does it sound good to you?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I mean it sounds good to me for the moment
when I okay, listen, phone.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Call one if it's good too. If it's not, we're
going to get this show back on track. Ham, Are
you coming next week or no?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean that's the plan for right now.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's been a it's been a month without you.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I know I have I have nontend to withdrawal.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I So I was I was going to say this
at the start at some point. But I am absolutely
mentally and physically wiped right now. I pulled three Actually
I work Sunday as well. I pulled four really long
days trying to catch I'm trying to like get get
ahead and stay ahead. And I filmed like five different
things this week. And I can't tell you how much

(08:17):
I don't want to be talking right now, but I
got to do a podcast, so I'm riding through the
pain and setting up without you. This morning kind of sucked. Well,
hopefully next week, I mean well, hopefully the plan is
to be that next week. Yeah, just don't get me sick.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
I do need to.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
I need to.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I need to change in my car. We can figure
that out. We'll figure that out, all right, love you,
but I love you too. Also, I think the second
screen is dumb. Okay, okay, bye, come on, that goes.
That's the episode, all right. So yeah, as as Ham

(08:58):
was alluding to the title of this episode and the
main topic today, I don't want to put my phone
is corner. Could the switch to have two screens, Kimberly.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I don't know, because it's from the photos that you
showed me and from other concepts I've seen it looks kind.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Of cheap, but well that's as it's a fan mock up.
It's a fan mock up.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I just it looks like it's going to break off
because I know it's a it's not real.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Don't do it better? All right, let's talk. Let's talk
about it a couple of things off the rip here.
This is episode one hundred and thirty. Thank you all
for being here. We're still edging towards this one hundred
k subscribers and we are going up a little every week,
and thank you for the support. Again. I want to
play button for this channel so bad so that it

(09:47):
feels like we really succeeded and accomplished something here with
the podcast, and it would just mean a lot to me.
It means a lot to my heart and soul. So
i'd appreciate it if you consider subscribing here on YouTube,
even if you're an audio listener. I also asked to
send over a voicemail, and it looks like we've got one,
so let's see if it actually works.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
They were just Dwayne Lawrence from a South Traffick group.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Can you guys hear that at the hair? I think
it's coming through the laptop. Can I borrow this staying.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Of your podcast and YouTube channel. I was just come
on a sea and to ask if you will be
attending tax this year.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
We're hoping to.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
Go and my family are all fans.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Of you and would like to meet in your figure autograph.
Congratulations again on the expecting baby, and have a great
year of youtubing and podcasting.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Enjoy your everything you do.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Bye. I don't know if you guys heard that quiet. Yeah,
I saw that. Sorry about that. It was only coming
through the laptop, and it looked like that that you
guys were getting it loud and clear, but I guess
you weren't. So the voicemail, which maybe we can edit
into posts for audio listeners, was asking if we're going
to PAXs. So this is a question that Kim and

(11:19):
I had been bouncing around in the family because Pax
is like middle start, middle ish of May, and the
baby is do me first?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
The baby? Yeah, well originally, but they originally so now
it's like.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
A little earlier, so you know, technically speaking on paper, No,
I mean I would not Kim, obviously, No, I'm not
I obviously for any other reason would be. No, I'm
not two weeks even a month after Kim gives birth
to my son when I leave to go to another state.
The only thing is that we've been talking about is

(11:55):
if the switch to is there, Like if Nintendo goes
there with some big switch To presentation and there's a
ton of switch To you know, games there and developers there.
Every year that I've gone, which I think is two now,
this would be the third I've done an upcoming Switch
games video, maybe the fourth year.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think so, because there was one that I didn't
go with.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
You and will you You've always been with h No you,
I swear no.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
One year now to.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Boston on my own. I'm scared even at the thought
of doing it this time with it. I don't like
traveling without Kim. No, those videos always do really well.
And doing one about the switch to and getting a
hands on with the switch again, maybe like for a
second time after the New York event and looking at
some Switch two games, that could be a video that

(12:40):
does really well and at some point, you know, a
video doing very well and making money for our family
is important. So I it all depends on the situation
and when we get them. But if I can get
away with maybe going for like one day, so fly out,
spend at most one night there, and then come back.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I feel like that's going to be very stressful for.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
You, probably, But yeah, yeah, it just depends. And also,
we could make all the plans in the world and
be like, yes, this makes sense financially, Yes we should
do this, and then we actually get to the time
and I'm like, there's no shot I'm leaving you right now.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
It also depends on how you're doing and how the
baby's doing. Of like we're in a somewhat groove, if
your mom can come help, So it all depends. It
all depends. But yeah, if you want to leave a voicemail,
hopefully next week you'll be able to hear it. The
numbers on the screen are four seven one. Is that right?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
All right, Okay, let's dive in. Thank you everybody for
being here. If the audio still sounds good, let me know.
I'll try facing this way and talking away from that
microphone as much as I can. But all right, so
off the rip. This is the first thing that I
want to talk about today. Now. I made a big

(13:56):
stink recently about I don't like doing titles and thumbnails
is about the switch to, or like leaks or rumors,
unless I honestly feel like it's something that's happening now.
This week, the biggest a noise that was made online
regarding the switch to was this post and a couple others.
There's there's actually an animated one. I mean, if I
can pull that one, Oh my god, no, no, stop it.

(14:28):
That's gonna happen every time I cut that later, and
I don't know what to do stop it right now
because that is one not supposed to be doing that. Okay,
so sorry about that. My brain. My brain is on
fire today. Sorry, I'm really I'm really pulling through here.

(14:49):
I'm drinking a brown sugar Shaken Express or that I
made myself, which I'm now addicted to since Duncan Donuts
started doing it for Sabrina Carpenter.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's really good.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
So Sabrina Carpetent has a song called Espresso. We all
know that, right Duncan Donuts is doing a as just
said it. I don't know why I'm repeating it, but
it's so good. It's actually one of the only things
I've enjoyed from Duncan. So now I've been putting brass
sugar into my own coffee at home and shaking it
and it's good. And I don't know why I never
thought about doing that. Oh my god, sorry about sorry

(15:20):
about all of this. Um, this is going to be
a train wreck episode. I apologize. Yeah, this info, this
thing went around. Yeah, this is another actually thing people
have been talking about that you can flip the switch
and still connect the joy cons in that's.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
What you need.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Well, it's a theory people have. The only practical use
I could see is it would take the ORCS point
for the headphones and put it either at the top
or bottom, depending on your preference, which is pretty cool.
Other than that, it could just be like a gimmick thing,
you know, like there were like Pokemon in Scarlet and

(16:00):
Violet I remember, or Sword and Shield. Sorry, there was
that creamy Pokemon where to evolve it you had to
spin your character around in a circle for a long
time and depending on how long you spun, you know,
And then there was one there was the squid one
where you had to evolve it with your switch upside down.
I don't know, I can see things like that, you know,

(16:22):
little silly gimmicks where I remember in a one of
my favorite moments of the DS actually let me Oh
my god, those those Ham and Cheddar.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah. I don't think Ham's getting fired anytime.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I am so not. This is terrible. I've done this
for a month without him, is this, Kim? I hate everything.
I don't know what's happening. Oh what was I saying?
What was I saying?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Him?

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Help me?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Something about the DS?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
You didn't said it yet though, so foggy. I usually
hated a lot of those gimmicks on the DS, like
having a blow in and the microphone whatever in Zelda
to blow out candles. But there was one I remember,
puzzle I got stuck on for a long time where
the map was on the screen and there was another
like something on the top screen, and it was like
you had to connect them in some way, and I

(17:15):
just couldn't figure it out. Like I spent like hours
trying to figure this out, and eventually I got bored
and I was like, I'll do it later, and I
closed the switch the DS and I heard it go
like like something got written or wrote, And then I
opened it back up and the top map had imprinted
with the bottom map because I put them together and
I was like, oh, that's actually I was, all of

(17:38):
a sudden not mad anymore. Yeah, I was like, that's
actually sick.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah. I'm hopeful that if they have any gimmicky stuff
like that for this, that will be able to see
it more in useless time.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah. So that's that's what I was getting to with
like this, like taking joy on ons off. Maybe like
in a Zelda game, there'll be some puzzle that's sold by.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Trying to minigame on.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, but like imagine like you're playing Zelda or something
and you walk into a dungeon and there's something like
on the ceiling and you're like, how do I get
to that? And you're trying and trying and you can't
figure it out, and then it just hits you. You
take the joy cons off, you turn the switch upside down,
put it back in, and the whole world shifts and
now you're on the seat.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Stuff like that would be really cool to see. I'm
just spitballing, but anyway, my point that I was getting
to is usually I don't like doing titles and thumbs
for things that aren't like real things that I feel
passionately that are actually probably gonna happen, or that I've researched.
To be clear, this is just a fan mock up
of a double screen thing, but it's something and the
title I think reflects it in this episode, I'm just

(18:36):
trying to justify it. I'm not saying it's happening. I'm
saying could it happen? Because I think it could. I
think it's something that a lot of us have been
asking for or like suggesting it would be something that
we're interested in. And I really don't mind the concept.
So you see here this fan mock up of it
connecting in like that and then you're folding the screen down.

(18:57):
Now there's actually another reason here why I like this
concept in this idea because it protects your screen by default.
So now you've got this attachment that you can plug in.
It's a whole screen thing, but you close it, put
it in your pocket, put it in your bag. It's
like a self enclosed case. You don't need to have
a big bulky case. I mean you could if you

(19:18):
wanted to like fully protect everything, and I'll get scratches
on it, but it protects the screen, which is actually
really cool. This mock up also has some other ideas
that I want to look into, but let's focus on
this dull screen idea and what it could actually be
used for, so off the rip. One of the first things, obviously,

(19:41):
is we have the virtual console on the switch. I
don't know why I don't they're not on. Ham is
not here, I swear, I don't know why, but not on.
I don't know why. I don't know why that keeps happening.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Because it's spread there.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
If you but then whatever, we have some I keep going.

Speaker 6 (20:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I can't see Chat right now, and I've been scared
to pull it up because I don't want to see
them laughing at me. I don't know why. Well you're
not here, buddy, you're sick. I don't know if I
even want to see chat today, not because well I.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Like checking it, because you can have Something is wrong.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Everything is wrong, and I don't want to be laughed at.
Not in the mood God, what was I saying? I
told you, Kim before we went live. My brain is
not here today. I feel like I'm in the middle
of the biggest ADHD fit. In fact, speaking of God,
what a tangent that I shouldn't go on? We wanted
to get checked for actual ADHD because I always say

(20:52):
that I have ADHD because when I was a kid,
my brother and I were told that we had it
and he got medication, but they never thought they never
thought I was actually that bad. We were going for
him because he was a menace. When they found out
that we both had it, they were like, we'll just
give him the medication. The other one's doing fine. So
I've always just kind of said that I have it,
but I've never officially been like diagnosed as an adult

(21:14):
or like, so we last June, I called a clinic.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I just can I point out the irony, But they're
having people who are notoriously bad at waiting being put
on It's insaneous.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
It's ridiculous, just a little bit. I called last June
to an adult clinic for testing for ADHD that's near here,
and they told me it was four hundred dollars for
an appointment and I was like, okay, sure, we didn't
have insurance at the time. I was like, I'll sink
it just because I want to know maybe we can
get prescription for something. They were like, but there's a
wait list of a few months. This was in June.

(21:48):
They called me Monday. I thought they'd forgotten about us.
They called me Monday and they were like, your time,
it's here. You can come in on Thursday. They said
today in the morning, and I was like great, and
they said yep, So for both you and your wife,
we need to have you come back for four appointments.
Four appointments before like it's a whole thing. They do

(22:11):
four separate appointments to diagnose.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
You don't show up for one, they just automatically dino.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, yeah, if you if you forget one, maybe that's
the test. Maybe the whole four appointments thing is the test.
If you make it through or four you don't, you
don't have it. Yeah, you're fine. What are you talking about. Oh,
that's funny. Yeah. They were like, there's four appointments, so
all up for you and your wife. It's three four
hundred dollars each. No, no, no together. I thought you

(22:38):
said each no, And I was like, wait, I was
told it was four hundred dollars and they were like,
yeah for an appointment with this four appointment. You couldn't
have told me this a year ago when I called
a year ago now, So then I was like well, good,
we have insurance now. So I gave him on insurance
and they called me back and they were like, yeah,
you're not a network. So I was like, okay, thanks,

(22:59):
I waited a year for this. No, thank you. I
know I have it. I don't need to. I don't
need to spend three thousand dollars now. I just wanted
to make I wanted for maybe find medicine, and days
like today is when I need it because I literally
I don't know how to explain it to people that
don't have it. It feels like everything is happening in

(23:20):
my brain at once and nothing is happening. Like I
am moving at a hundred times speed and at the
same time I'm at zero speed. It's making me twitch.
I don't even know how to explain it. What was
I talking about? What was I you? Where it was?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I go backwards because I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I'm so sorry, everybody. I'm just I'm just so not focused.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
A very off day today.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm really struggling. I'm okay, I am okay. I'm just
really having trouble focusing and keeping my thoughts in a
straight line. Can you not just go to a regular doctor,
you know, I don't actually know it can we I
don't think so. I think you have to go to
a guy medication.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I think you have to go to a specialist. I'm
pretty sure I don't. I mean we can ask your
regular doctor and be like, hey mm, so I need
to pay this guy or no.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Someone said, try therapy. Yeah, we were in therapy for
a long time. We're on a break right now. But
the therapy we were trying to target ADHD for a
long time, and it sucked. It was taugh. It was
actually the only thing that I found really difficult to
work on. Everything else, working through my anxiety, my depression,
I made great progress. But every week she would be like,
so did you take notes and did you write things

(24:32):
down this week of what you wanted to do and
then get things done? And every week I was like no,
because it doesn't help. I try writing notes down. I
try getting a notebook and writing down everything I want
to do, and I'm like, great, that's everything I want
to do. Close never see it again.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Exactly what's the point.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I don't get like. I never go back to it and.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Go up planners thinking that that would work for me.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
I have so many empty Planners's so many empty planners
because you.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Want to be that person, you want to be organized.
The only thing that's worked for us so far is
writing shit down on the refrigerator.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
So the refrigerator is helping. And then I have like
a Google doc that I'm trying to like keep things on,
and sometimes I like I try and use like notes
on a phone, but the idea of like, oh this
is something I want to do, let me get my phone,
unlock it, open a notes pad, write it down and
be like, I don't know. I'm never going to do it.
If I'm not going to do it right, then I'm

(25:23):
not going to do it at all. Yeah, I don't
know how to.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I mean that pretty much sums it up.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think we got to get We gotta get it.
People don't care, some people do care, and I love you.
I got to get back on track for those that
are hit and the Nintendo news. We have the Nintendo
Switch online apps, and we have game Boy, game Boy Advance,
whatever it is elsept that we have. Right, We're probably
not going to get things like game Cube and stuff
like that because Nintendo have already realized they can sell

(25:49):
those things back to us. But there are older things
from those same generations that we don't have that they
can't necessarily sell back to us, and it's because we
don't have a mean ways to play it. And those
are the double screen games, because there were whole generation,
two big generations from Nintendo with DS and three DS

(26:09):
that utilized two screens, and those games, just for a
lot of them don't import easily over to one screen.
Some of them do. They've done it for games like
Luigi's Mansion too, for example, but some are integral, integrally
need two screens at their core. So an attachment like
this could provide that. Now, Nintendo could do it in

(26:30):
a couple different ways. When they launched the N sixty
four library, for example, they launched that with the N
sixty four controller, which they have up there somewhere where
you could spend forty dollars or whatever it was and
buy the controller. See behind me, Oh, I guess I
could grab it for it. No, it's literally on camera.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Actually, yeah, you can see it.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah. Now they could release a DS library and then
have like a I don't know how much this would
cost fifty bucks, sixty bucks a screen attachment. They could
call it the DS the ds X, I'll switch screen
something fun and you would order that, and then maybe
you would just use it for you know, maybe it's
just used for those Well maybe this is an attachment

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that they release and they actually support it in some games.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
It would be cool if they could figure out a
way to do it, because I know there's a lot
of games that they could bring over that or old
and they could also when they're making the new games
like the new Ninten Dogs or whatever the hell else
they're going to make, you know, you could use the
second screen for that.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yes, so they definitely could.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
That would be cool.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, definitely, they definitely could. So I think where they
would not support it is like they wouldn't make games
specifically for it or games that would require it, because
I feel like that obviously it's alienating and it's limiting. Yeah,
but they could support it in games for sure. They
could release something like Mario one to two, which plays

(27:51):
completely normally. Or if you have a screen attachment, I
don't know, maybe you're maybe you get like a larger
field of you Maybe some of the levels that have
like verticalness to it, you can see more of the level,
like just interesting supporting elements like that, or even like
if they do a new Zelda game, you play the

(28:15):
if you plug the screen in, you play the Zelda
game on the top screen like you would normally, but
any inventory management or whatever, you don't have to press
a button to open your inventory. It's always on the
bottom of the screen and you can see both at
the same time. I think that's really cool. It's again,
you don't need it. It's just kind of cool, especially
if you can fold it down and take it with you.

(28:38):
I think it's a really cool, really cool concept. So,
because my brain's on fire and not really working today,
I asked chat GBT, let me before I actually cut
that all of my chat gbt previous googles are here
on the and I want people knowing what I've been
chat gbting. So let me close that. Give me a recipe,

(28:58):
I have chicken. Let me see what in there.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Actually, it's literally just all switched.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
It's all stuff about gaming.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, and now one recipe. I'm surprised there's.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
One that just says clickbait title ideas I did you'd
read that, No, that would have been I've been I've
been using chat GBT pretty frequently lately for idea, just
concepts and ideas and things for videos, and sometimes when
I have like half a title in my brain but
I'm not quite there. Yeah, a last chat GBT to

(29:30):
clickbait it, which just means like make it punchy, make
it like clickable for YouTube. Obviously, nothing that's actually clickbait,
because if you've seen any of my videos recently, I
haven't been doing clickbait, but chat GBT has been helping me.
I did it for Ham's video recently. Ham did a
really cool stream where he was in New York City

(29:51):
in a taxi cab doing a game show and he
had a title and I asked Chad GBT to clickbait it,
and it just rearranged the title and made it way
more punchy.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
And then that's the one he ended up using.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah. Also, the when we filmed that Valentine's video, Yeah,
and all the footage got messed up, all the gameplay
for the game got messed up. I couldn't figure out
how to correct it, and I told chat GBT specifically,
this is why I love CHATGBT. I was like, and
this is going to sound bizarre to you, I said,
chat GBT. I act said, this is how I dressed

(30:23):
it did chat GBT. I accidentally recorded gameplay through OBS
in r e C twenty one thousand PQHDR mode because
it was left on from when I did my sony video,
my placetaging video. How do I revert that back to
r e C seven oh nine, And it gave me
off how to do it. I couldn't find it on
Google because it's so specifica it told me how to

(30:46):
do it. I had to download da Vinci because it
was the best way of doing it, and with one
click on da Vinci, it fixed it. It wasn't like
completely fixed, but it did what I asked.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
It used to be you'd have to take Reddit at
the end of whatever.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yes, well I did that. I did that first, but
my situation was so specific I needed something with like
an AI brain to understand what I was asking and
find a solution.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Sorry, I'm bit of a I'm a bit of a
chat GBT guy.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Now, I mean it's useful.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
It's very useful. I know it has a lot of
misinformation on it, but if you use it for the
right thing, like what we're doing, here and you're going
to see that now. So I asked it, what can
we use or benefit from a two screen situation on switch?
So I just wanted to get some ideas to bounce
off of. So we had games like Zeuda, Fantom Hourglass,

(31:36):
and Spirit Tracks HD. And that is also a good point.
You could take these games, put them into HD and
re release them on a two screen setup. Yeah, Metro
Prime Hunters DX. I don't think anyone like Metro Prime
Hunters kid Icarus Oprising. People loved that game. The second
screen would allow gyro aiming while keeping the main action

(31:57):
on top. That's a good point because I don't think
the three DS had gyro. No it did, surely it didn't.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Talk about zombie you no three DS no no, but
oh right.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
The kid Cherus on three DS was kind of hard
to play it actually when you bought the game. Initially,
it released with a little attachment that had a thumbstick
and you it came with the game and you would
plug it onto the side of the three DS so
that you could actually control the game. And if you
had a new three DSXL I don't know if you

(32:30):
ever saw one, but it had a little nub and
you could use that little nub, but it was really
it was horrible. So you're putting it on the switch
and allowing just gyro. Yeah, that'd be way better. I'm
gonna skip Wonderful one O one because no one likes
that game. Sorry. If you do Zombie you reducts. Man,
it just gave it a whole name here. Yeah, inventory

(32:52):
scanning and survival elements. You know, that's actually interesting because
Zombie You released on WU it needed the two screens, right,
but then it released on PlayStation five and Xbox. I'm
pretty sure under just zombie and it did away with
needing two screens, but Zombie never came to switch. So

(33:14):
they could do Zombie You two.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Or ZOMBIEU Reducks or whatever redo Zombie redoo that's.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Fine, and utilize the two screens and you could play
it the same way you could before.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
That's a really cool idea. I do wonder with stuff
like this, with how oddly specific this is. How many
companies do you think are like going to chat EBT
and be like, I need an idea for a game.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
A lot of people are using AI now I know
it honestly helps my brain so much like that switch
to video I made recently about with the switch to
doom to fail or whatever. When I was writing the
script and I just had like a like A I
can't even think of an example. But when I was
even something like, oh, I wonder how many copies of

(34:01):
this thing? So yeah, I would just ask chat GBT
and then I would keep writing and it would find
the answer for me while I was writing, and I'd
be like, Okay, cool, I put that in the script.
I'd keep going. Sometimes you'll google stuff like that and
you won't get an answer.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh yeah, I know. Any time I try to google something,
I have to type read it at the end of
it or something, you know, just to get the right answer.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Nintendo series, I could use a second screen, Uh, Pokemon
dual horizons? Are they just creating Pokemon games now? A
Pokemon game with the second screen acts as a Poke decks,
battle planner, or even ai a r AAR camera for
the Pokemon snap mechanics. Pokemon Tactics legends are real time

(34:41):
strategy fire emblems spin off with the second screen displays
enemy movements, terrain effects, or a full tactical map. Yo
Chat GBT kind of cooking.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I just feel like, Yeah, I'm wondering. I'm really wondering.
How many things are going to come out in the
next few years that were ideas by chat GPT that
they just don't get credible.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
I don't know, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, Super
Mario Maker three a second screen would bring back touch
base level editing, Mario Pit Crew, a new Mario Cup
with real time pit stops, power up selection. I don't
know what. I don't know what that has to do
or anything. It's cute, though, it's just coming up with
ideas Platoon Incorps.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Maybe he's just waiting this whole time. He's like, finally
someone cares about my ideas. Here's what I've got, dude.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
If Nintendo comes out with something called Splatoon inc Ops
and we called it here with chat GBT, that'd be hilarious.
One screen for fast third person action, the other for
real time map control, squad communication, and even rts like
coordinative feature. That makes me think of the Dynasty Warriors
games and like Hiro Warriors and stuff. A lot of
it is map control. You have to open your map

(35:50):
and send your troops places. If you could do that
in real time while you're playing, just keep your map
up so one screen is like you're actively playing and attacking,
and then you realize that an enemy troop is getting
our troops getting bombarded. You can like quickly just send
enemies over and keep playing. That's sick um.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
New.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Im'd say allies over, not enemies. But what new gameplay
ideas and concepts? I don't know if we need to
read all of these asymmetrical multiplayer and local call op
Mario Party, Dual Dash. I did not ask it to
create all of these games, by the way, I meant more,
just like.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
What just one to talk about these for a minute?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
What games could we get here? Of course, hybrid call
op and competitive multiplayer Mario Party where one player sees
secret objectives or control special game events. I don't, I
don't know. You're out of control now.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
He's just spitballing.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
You know he's out of control and let him cook.
Second screen for chat GPT mm hmmm, what what ideas
do you guys have in chat for a possible second
screen usage? Could you increase the fund size?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I totally can. I think I'm about to be done
with it though, to be honest, but yeah, sorry, sorry
about that. Or if you guys want me to ask
chat gbtr question, let me know. I'll ask it something,
whether through clamshell design or detachable second screen or even
a mobile companion app. They could take inspiration from the
DS and we you. Oh yeah, I talked a lot

(37:17):
about three DS and DS. But the WU also could
you could do like a Wiu library of games.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I just assumed that would happen just based on if
it had two screens.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Although now you think about it, every single WIU game,
I'm gonna cut back and everything's good. Every single WU
game is on the switch. They ported every single one over. Yeah,
they just made it so you only have to use
one screen for everything. Yeah, but if you wanted to, well,
why can't they just patch back in whatever the second
screen did so that when you played it with the

(37:48):
second screen, you can play it like the WI you
played it.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Maybe just saying there's ideas we're cooking out here, commanding Cogner. Interesting.
I think the easier option for a second screen is
just second USBC to connect to the TV without DOC.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, I was thinking that too. To be honest with
the to just have the two screens, I may not
have to bring one with you.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah. Yeah, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Well well that's of the way you worked though, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say I already kind of
theorized in one of my videos that maybe the C
button is cast or there's some sort of casting function
where you can cast to the dock and your TV
and have the switch on and actively using it while
it's casting to the TV, maybe wirelessly or through the internet,

(38:35):
so you can get that wi you effect, and then
a second screen just allows you to take that concept
on the go.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
So I also think that, like as silly as it
might seem to some people, for two screens or for
any of these concepts, nintender has been doing a lot
of putting all of their ideas into one basket. That's
what the switch was. It took elements from all their
other and even there are all their games and improving

(39:03):
on them, but mashing them all into one idea. But
one idea that was truly left behind in the wake
of all of this is two screens.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
And clearly it was something that in tend to cared about.
I mean they liked they did it for their handheld
and their home console.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
With the wu it was definitely something they were doing.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
There was something they were doing. It was something they
did for like ten years, if not more, Yeah, and
they had to do away with it. So I don't
think it's that crazy to think that the Switch to
could bring even more of those concepts together and at
home with a second screen. And again, it's just a
little funsie attachment thing. It's not something that would be
every game or necessity.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
It's just it's an option. And that's like that was
their whole thing for a minute. It was accessories for
the Switch. So I feel like we're going to see
a lot of really interesting accessories for this yeah, because
they're like, they know you want them now.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Well, we've been talking about it for a while. And
also the Switch did a great job at reaching into
the back catalog from a lot of their games like
We You and then with then Intend to Switch Online
as but moving forward into Switch Too, unless we find
a way to reach into these other libraries from those
other generations, we're kind of out of things for Nintendo
to bring to the Switch Online app. We're kind of

(40:11):
out of concepts and ideas and games for Nintendo to
reach into the back history of Ye. But adding this
second screen idea, it opens up like three different consoles. Yeah,
although again the weu is doesn't have many games, and
a lot of them are already on the console, but
it does open up those three consoles to being fully accessible.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I do wonder if there's going to be like a
headset sort of situation at any point.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Headset you mean for VR. Yeah, well, I was going
to talk about that because a lot of people have
been talking about VR with Nintendo, and maybe these these
extra USB slots are used for VA.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I'm just wondering.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I don't think it's a bad idea. I think, just
like with the two screens, something else Nintendo has clearly
always had some sort of an interest in is the
idea of virtual reality. They've never really fully committed to anything,
but the two main places, or the two really only
places where they did is back in the nineties with
the Vial they released the Virtual Boy, which they clearly

(41:13):
they were interested in that. And I think Nintendo is
the kind of company where they have a certain level
of like pride, and also they stand by their ideals
and I think they they love the concept, but they
they know it wasn't the right time or the right idea,
and people also weren't really ready for it. People still
now don't aren't really in VR.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
It's not as big as I would have imagined it
would have been.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I agree with you. I am actually surprised to be.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Way more popular. But I think part of that is
it's so inaccessible with the price point that it's at. Like,
I mean, we were looking at one, what was that
that haptic vest that you saw at Target, was like.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Well, the haptic vest is a is a nicety, it's
a luxury.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
But like, but I agree, pricing is crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, well, I agree, I do agree. I agree that
the headsets are expensive, the buying is expensive.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
If you want any accessors are expensive.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I mean we saw the haptic vest and it was
like seven hundred dollars, which is a lot for an
accessor any games with it. I think that inaccessibility goes
even deeper though, because not only is the headset expensive,
the library of games is unique to VR. You only
have a set selection of VR games. There aren't many

(42:27):
big budget experiences you have like Skyr and VR Fallout VA.
But then after those they really stopped taking mainstream games
and making them just.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Very VR specific games. It's like oddly specific to the
point where like if you're.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Not interested and a lot of your shooting things, a
lot of shooting games, but then also the inaccessibility and
needing to actually put on the headset and like gett
all like gussied up with everything.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
You get nauseous five minutes to get nauseous.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
A lot of people can't even handle it because of
the motion sickness, So.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Even through all of that, it surprises me that VR
isn't popular, but I guess doesn't surprise me based on
everything we just said.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
It has its set of problems.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Like even I am a I'm a big advocate for
VR and talk about it as much as other things,
but I do love VR. I have a quest too.
I downloaded Metro Awakening VR the other day because I
was like, it's time I want to jump into VR.
And that game is like a big budget, kind of
fun VR game that's an actual VR game, not just

(43:31):
some tech demo. And I was playing it for like
two hours and I was really enjoying it, and then
I got a little nauseous YEP, and I was like,
I need to take a break. And that's just not
really even for me, it's not it doesn't make me
want to pick it back up again the next day.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Also, Yeah, that makes the retention rate for those types
of games really bad.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, they can't keep people playing because they can only
people can play so long. Every time I get done playing,
I take the headset off, my face is all red.
I feel like I'm walking out of a bomb shelter.
I feel exhausted physically and mentally, like I don't know,
it's so draining, and it literally is like the next day,
I'm like, I just want to chill and play like
a normal game.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, so I can see why they don't prioritize it,
but I do think there's probably gonna be some element
of that with a headset with the switch.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
That's what I was gonna say. So what did they.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Call it the Labo thing? I feel like that was
just a test to see if.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
They could do it, So that's what I was getting to.
So they tried it with the Virtual Boy, and then
with the Switch. They did try VR again with the
Labor where you made up your own little headset, and
then there were some VR experiences with Labor. But then
they also even patched in some updates for Mario Odyssey,
Smash Brothers, and Breath of the Wild where if you

(44:42):
connected the labor and you put it up to your
face you could turn on VR mode. Now, they were
horrible because to explain it, I know a lot of
people know, but the reason why you get motion sick
most of the time if you've tried VR in the
last ten fifteen years, is because the refresh rate in
the glasses and the frame rate in the technology was

(45:03):
never high enough to match up with what we actually
experience in the real world. So when you're strapped into
a world but the frame rates really low, the refresh
rate is low, it almost feels like you're having what's
like with vertigo. And it freaks me out even thinking
about it, because it's almost like anxiety. It is, and
it makes you that's what makes you nauseous. So the

(45:25):
technology has come a long way, and things like PSVR
two in the Latest Quest have really great refresh rates
and frame rates where you shouldn't get nauseous from that.
You'll only get nauseous if like your brain just can't
handle being in VR or whatever. Yeah, but the switch
screen is seven twenty p or whatever for thirty frames,
and then for it to work in VR the way

(45:46):
that it does with you putting it against your face,
it actually splits the screen in half.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
And then it by doing that it lowers the reframe,
the frame rate, and I believe the it lowers the resolution,
frame rates and refresh rates in half for each eye.
So now you've got like fifteen frames and fifteen hertz
refresh rate or whatever low resolution in each eye. So

(46:13):
trying to do for me, trying to do anything in
labor for those games was a no go. Couldn't handle it. Also,
it's also just not great because you were quite literally
doing this like you're putting the switch up to your
face anyway. So what they could do with the switch too,
though by you utilizing this feature, is if they released

(46:38):
an actual headset, they actually released an accessory that had
glasses and you somehow connected this as your base. That
would be sick because it would make it a somewhat
portable VR that would technically be more powerful than even
the Quest three were technically because the Question three has

(46:58):
baked in components in it where you can play games
locally on it, But the switch to is going to
be able to outperform that. The other option is they
have it where you look directly at it. No, but
that hopefully assuming that the screen can do and if
Nintendo were planning on doing this, this is what they
would have to do. If the screen can do one
hundred and twenty hurts, then you could split it in

(47:22):
half and have sixty hurts each eye, which means you
could get up to sixty frames in each eye, which
would mean the switch would have to be putting out
one hundred and twenty frames, which is I think I
could be getting all this wrong. That is pretty insane.
But if the VR games are pretty low key and
like minimal, that could be possible.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
They would have to be scaled back mass.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Could be possible. But either way, you could get sixty
hurts in each eye, so that could also But in
that case you're not actually using the USB cord anyway,
so that's a different conversation.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I don't know. I just think there's a lot of
potential for it, and there's a lot of ips that
Nintendo could use the VR four that a lot of
companies can't, Like can you imagine a VR Pokemon game?

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah? I could, I couldn't. Actually I could The only
reason why I would entertain it too is because because
it sounds silly doing VR in any kind of concept
right now. But Nintendo have had that interest in VR
in the past, and I don't think Nintendo are beyond
trying something that fails. If it's just like an accessory
for a console.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, I don't think they're going to like abandon a
whole console to do VR instead. I think it's going
to have to be an attack.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
But they would absolutely release an attachment and then abandon
the attachment. Yeah, I could see that happen, which is,
you know, if they want to try it out and the.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
People don't like it, it's great if it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
You tried, you know, So yeah, people people definitely theorize that, Okay,
let's keep going on this trailer. There's a little bit
left on it, and I find it interesting at least
I'm pretty sure it's THISTRALI. Yeah, So they take the
screen off and they put a little camera on top
that spins either side. So this I like a lot
of people were theorizing that maybe the switch to would

(48:58):
have a camera. We now know that it does, like
actually on the unit part of where that came from
is the extra C button. People were like, does that
mean camera? So clearly not at this point, because you
wouldn't put a button on a console that does nothing
if you don't have the thing attached. But the add
on camera is a cool idea, I think, because then

(49:21):
Nintendo can dive back into the augmented reality stuff. I
don't know if you ever tried on the three DS.
The three DS initially came with these cards that you
could put on the table and then point the three
DS camera at them and a little Nintendo character.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Oh I saw that.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah, I didn't have it, so if you look through
the three DS it looked like there was something in
your room. Yeah, they could do that, or they could
just you know, connect type games, connect type game, or
they could just have a camera. It could just be
a camera.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
There's so many games that they could do with that though.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
They could, and then games you could also do and
this would be interesting live streaming straight from the console.
So a lot of consoles now obviously, like PlayStation and Xbox,
you can live stream directly from those consoles. PlayStation since
PlayStation four, maybe even three, but definitely four, you could

(50:15):
connect to camera to it and live stream directly from
the console to Twitch and the switch one you could
live stream, no, sorry, you could. You could upload your
captures directly to Twitter. And I think a lot of
this is ways of Nintendo finally getting with the times
and finding a way to bob message to me and
I can't stop thinking about it. Let me see what

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you're saying. Making sure he's not watching the show. Okay,
he's not finding ways to share clips and get the
word out about games, right. So I could see them
leaning into the times and matching PlayStation's energy with the
live streaming. With this, you have a camera, you live
stream tiers of the Kingdom directly from your switch.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah. I think a camera is just a very very
highly part possible accessory that they're going to do because
they didn't do one last time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I think a camera has obviously it hasn't many many uses.
I think it was the Wei or the we you
where you could scan your face and it makes it me.
I think that must have been the WIU because it
had a camera on the on the pad. Yeah, which
is another thing. You know. Again, I keep talking about
Nintendo bringing their ideas together, the DSi and the WEIU

(51:26):
and a lot of those consoles, the three DS, they
had a camera, and that was missing last generation. What
was missing last generation from what was on both home
home consoles and handheld previously a second screen and a camera. Yeah,
so those are you could find a way to add
them back in. And then again, a lot of those
older games that required a camera or used a camera,

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now you can bring them, bring.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Them all over. I wouldn't be surprised if we get
either of those.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I also mean neither. I also prefer these things being
an attachment. Yeah, because if you don't have any interest
in it, you don't have to pay for that hardware
to be baked into your console. It's not unnecessary hardware
that's going to jack up the price.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
I also think that it would probably have lowered the
quality of a lot of the other innards of the switch.
If they had planned to put the camera in there
the whole time, I think they would have had to
cheap out on something.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah, you'd have to lower price so adding I mean
you have to imagine adding in a camera for me,
and I would just guess like fifty bucks for camera
to add in a camera to something.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah, but if they if they weren't going to raise
the price at all.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
They would cheap out on something, but you got to
save that fifty bucks?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
H exactly, And how are you going to do that?
You know? Yeah, I would rather just not have it.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
I agree, Yeah, I definitely agree. Also, adding a camera
like that reminds me so much of the Game Boy color. Yeah,
when you would add the little camera. H I gotta
blow my noise real bad. Oh sorry, sorry about that.
I don't know whether the way over that. I'm gonna
go get him. Can you, uh, can you talk to
him for a second for me? Yeah? Sure, you can

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look at chatters.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, let's see what's what we got going on? How's
everybody feel about the camera? Do we love him? Do
we hate him? Slide screen? Someone saying instead of a
foldable what a slide screen? Instead of a foldable screen.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Slide it wet? Yeah, slide it wet.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Elaborate iris were listening.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
What do you mean by slide? I think I blue
snot into my hair. I just washed it too, literally
right before I went live.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
I'm waiting for the clarification on the sliding screen can here?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah, sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
I'm interested in the sliding screen option. I just want
to know what it's going to do.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I'm telling you, it's just not my day. M Yeah,
I'm interested in the slide screen option. I don't know
what you mean by slide screen. I almost I prefer
the clam don't. I'm trying to figure out why you
were laughing for a second. Don't stop. You are you

(54:09):
are a mother, You're a mother to a future child,
young lady. I will not hear this kind of talk.
All right, all right, I think we exhausted that. People
saying BlackBerry slide phone.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
But how would how would that work?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
No, I don't think it was.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, like a slide phone, she's saying. But I don't.
I can't visualize it.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I don't really understand how that would work. No, I
don't get it.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I can't figure it out in my head.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I think the clamshell is just cooler. I think it's
just cooler.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I think Madgie exclaimer switch bye.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Yeah, you get the camera on it too. You're on
a front. I'm not talking to you anymore.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
No.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I think the whole clamshell things coming back in a
cool way, like your phone doesn't your phone's a clamshell.
I think the slide feature is it just gives early
two thousands, and I think I think not. I think
I don't know what I'm trying to say. I think
that I think the slide feels dated for some reason,
and the clam feels retro in a cool way, like

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the clams.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Coming to pass for the slide. You're thinking, there's not
enough time for the slide, about another decade.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
No one's doing the slide. Everyone wants to do the clam.
You started it.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I'm trying my best.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
You started it, not to laugh, and you're just making this.
I got a couple other things if we want to
breeze past it. I mean, I could probably theorize things
all day, or we could get chat Chip to do
it for us. But there are a couple other things
to talk about. One's kind of depressing, unfortunately. Uh, I
think it is. I don't know if anybody cares. My

(56:00):
Nintendo gold Points will be discontinued on March twenty fourth,
So the gold points are going away. Now what did
you get with those? So what you would do with this?
And this was actually one of my more controversial videos,
and we'll talk about that in a second, but what
you would do with the gold points? Kim believe is
and correct me if I'm wrong, Chat, and the gold

(56:20):
coins are something else, but I believe it. But I believe.
I believe it's only one kind of gold currency when
you would download a game from the e shop. Now,
I'm wondering if I'm wrong about this, but I don't, Chat,
please let me know. When you download a game from
the e shop, you notice it says this game's earns
you like one hundred gold coins or something. And then
even and people actually don't know this, and this is

(56:42):
where my controversial video comes into play. Even when you
buy a game physically and you put it into your switch,
you can press the Nintendo App button and claim gold
coins from the physical as well. So every time you
buy a game you can gain gold coins. You can
use those as currency on the e shop actual like tender.
So if you collect a thousand gold coins, I believe

(57:04):
that's ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
So you can literally go to the e shop and
just download a ten dollar game for free.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Well not for free, you paid into the.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Kind of yeah, I mean it's kind of for free.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
It's like they're giving you loyalty points.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Yeah, it's like when you go BEFO when you go
to a coffee shop ten times, you get a I
mean it's free coffee. You've paid to get there, but
it's free.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, that's how they get you.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, but it is free. It is a free coffee.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
It is straight up exactly who they're looking for, all right.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
I think it's free. Where the controversial video came into
play as I made a video once called had to
get any Nintendo Switch game for free? Oh yeah, well
it's true. It's literally true.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Points you could buy any game.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
If you have enough points, you could get any game
you wanted. People got really annoyed on that video for
two reasons, one of my most controversial videos. One because
there was a whole side of people that was like, yeah,
we all know about this, which is wild because most
people don't know about that. Most people don't know that
was a thing you can what, well, you will watch me,

(58:09):
So this might be a bad test. But one in
chat if you didn't know you could claim gold coins
on physical games by going into.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Seven and if you just downloaded.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I feel like it's not something that is widely I have.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Never gone in with like my physical card and claim
that I don't know that was an option to I.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Know about it, and even I forget to do it
every single time.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
You you can do it.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Honestly, you can do it for every game. So if
I put in every game here, I should do that
for a video.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
That should be a video. Hurry up and do it
before March.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I could probably get an insane amount of gold plant. Yes,
there's a lot of see even right now after I
made my video, there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
and they're still coming in. Obviously a lot of twos
as well. It seems to be about a fifty to
fifty split. But there are people that don't know. So
I made the video this is how you do it.
Half people were upset because they were like everybody knows.

(59:00):
The other half was like I never knew about this,
I don't know what physical And the other half people
upset was because realistically, a normal person that didn't buy
every Switch game, you could maybe maybe a mass like
five ten dollars worth of coins in you know, months
to a year. But still my point is, I mean

(59:21):
you can still buy a game for five dollars ten dollars.
A lot of people clicked on hoping to find some
hack to get Breath of the World for free right away.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Okay, well, I mean you have to know going into
it there's going to be some stipulation.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
This was a catch. But also, by the way, if
if you didn't know about the physical thing, and then
you found out in that video and you went and
put every single game in, you probably you might be
I don't know something. I don't know how many games
you got. But anyway, that's going away. So the gold
coins already had about a year lifespan, which I didn't know.
Oh shoot, I know, so for the I know that's

(59:55):
another part of my video, Kim. So for the first
three or four years, I was collecting all of my coins,
and every time they would add to it, I was like,
I swear that's less than what I had. But okay,
I'm saving I'm saving up, just like I did with
my game stop points. I was like, I'm saving up.
At some point I found out I was just pissing
them away, yep, because not only can you use them

(01:00:15):
for like a whole purchase, but when you go to
check out, they'll say, like, you have one hundred coins,
do you want to put it towards your total and
you'll save a dollar and I would always say no,
I'm like, no, I'm saving them. Three years later, what
did I save? Nothing? I wasted money last But regardless
or it, whole, the whole concept is going away discontinued

(01:00:37):
March twenty fourth. So if you have any gold coins
on your account, now is the time to use them.
On top of that, if you're sitting on physical games
that you haven't put into your switch and I think
I might be wrong, but I think you hit the
red the red icon here, the Nintendo Switch Online red
icon on the far left. Let me see if I

(01:00:58):
can do it right now for the game that's in here. Actually,
you're going to do it once per game on one account,
and then depending on how much the game costs, will
equate to how many points you get. Something Yeah, something
like that. Actually, no, maybe it's not that. Maybe you
click on the game itself and then my Nintendo Rewards

(01:01:22):
earned gold points. Yeah, okay, so sorry, you go to
so this is form? Can you open that for me?
I want to see what game I think Batan Katos
is in there. Actually, I want to give it a
shot now and see how much I get. So, yeah,
go to all your physical games, put them all in
and do what I'm about to tell you. Get all
those gold coins and then immediately pick something on the

(01:01:44):
e shop and buy it. So right now I have
Baton Katos in here. We'll see if this works because
I bought this in Japan. My rewards you press sorry.
I'm not sorry. I'm doing a bad job. I'm doing
a bad job at everything today. Go to the game,
hit start on the game, Go to the My Nintendo
Rewards program at the bottom, and then earn gold points

(01:02:05):
game card version only. Click on that. Then it will
proxy your account and then click on the account you
want to earn the points for. You cannot colleck points
for the software in the country currently.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I think it's because it's because I got the Japanese one.
So that's a bad example. Can you open that again?
I actually do you want to follow through on this?
Let me grab one of my American.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Game Okay, trying to open this ship again. Yeah, trying
to do with the chats that going on? Oh the
plus sign they're saying, Yeah, that's what that's the better
descript all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Right, we're gonna do it for Hopefully my game's in here.
You know Plade three.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Games.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
I'm pretty sure I didn't do it. I mean, I
don't do it for any of them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
So I'm pretty sure you could go through your entire
collection and find maybe one that you remember to do
it for.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
There should be a full banker as well. This is
a sixty dollars game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
So six dollars we're guessing, or six hundred points.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Interestingly, I also can't do it for this game, so
I guess it has to be the region of the game.
So let me go to my American account see if
it works for that. You cannot collect mind intended points
for the software as the expiration date has passed. Oh no,
so you so the game has to have come out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Reason No, Oh that ruins your video.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Sorry, Well, now what do I do?

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I got to find a game that came out in
the last year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Oh j new Marios, your brother ships and whatever the hell?

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Oh we are we are learning, we are learning together.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Well, I mean that's a little disappointing, to be honest.
Where's my Oh yeah, yeah, they're telling you in the
chat before you found out.

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
Oh, I'm so sorry. See, and this is what my
video was about. There's so much misinformation. Here paper, Mario,
one thousand year dog? Can you actually that's sealed? I
never played it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I really to play it. Could you open it for me?

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Don't know if I can. You got nails, You got it, nails,
but they never worked for this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
I don't know what you well, I was trying to
get the mic away from it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Because you're but angry.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Yeah, you're clicking into the microphone. Zouda. Yeah, I was
trying to find echoes, but it wasn't in my little box.
Hold on, let me, I'll take this microphone for a walk.
Let me see if I can find isn't. This is great.
This is really good podcasting right now. So behind and
now Kim's talking and I took a microphone. Oh my god.

(01:04:36):
We'll just wait for Kim to open the paper. Maria,
Oh my god, come on, what do you want to
we're doing a show here, Kimberly, you can't be opening things. Yeah,
grab this, damn. I'm determined to get this to work.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Well, now we know it has to be a game
that came out recently. What's the window chat? I'm going
to guess a year you okay, wow, way to find out? Now?
When Nintendo hasn't put out any games.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
In a year. Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
All right, here we go one one last time. My
Nintendo old girl old earned gold points. I'm dying old
golfriend coins. Ah, we did it finally so that this
will add sixty coins. Was this game sixty dollars? Was paper?
Was this sixty dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Yeah? Everybody was mad about that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Chat? Was this sixty dollars for paper? Mario thousand year
do all?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Yeah? Everybody was like, what it's a re release?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Who would buy that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
You did?

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yeah? And I'm being silly. I did not know that
was sixty I didn't even I didn't even open it. Yeah,
this will give me sixty gold coins to my account,
which equates to sixty cents.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
That's ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
It is a little I guess I suppose.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Yeah, listen, if they even expire? Cool, you know, because.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Then you yeah, I know, if they didn't expire, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Come up off of sixty cents longer than a year?

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
That is quite pissy. The game has to be a
year old at least, and then you only have a
year to use them. Yeah, that is tough. That is tough.
My video was a bit rough. Now I think about
it um so six and sixty coins. Well, then if
you do, yeah, two games would be a dollar twenty

(01:06:22):
maybe you should Oh wait, you get three dollars for
sixty coins. Well how does that math? Bow? Look who's
doing the podcast here? Meet you in my head? Uh well, okay.
One thing I'll say is I did not plan to
go this in detail on this conversation. I apologize for getting.
It's so many things wrong. I'm really, honestly, really glad

(01:06:45):
that we're live. But apparently sixty is well, that's not
too bad. Three dollars, that's not that's not terrible at all.
Because now if you buy two full priced games, you
get six bucks. You can go to the e shop
buy a decent game for five dollars. There's a lot
of good five dollar games on the e shop, done
videos about that, oh I know. And then you buy,
you buy three of these suckers, you're at nine dollars.

(01:07:05):
There's a plethora of great ten dollars indies. Oh yeah,
and then you buy a couple more. You can get
Starty Valley for free. Starty Valley's fifteen dollars. Really yep,
that's on the e shop.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
I wonder how many now I want to know how
many coins I have, because if they expire.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
I probably don't know how many coins I have. I
don't actually, I don't even know how to find out,
and I don't want to. We've we've wasted enough of
these lovely people's time, all right. Anyway to the point,
use your gold coins now. If you have any games
you bought recently that came out recently, redeem those and
then also you already know this, I assume, but anything

(01:07:43):
you buy from the e shop will give you gold
coins immediately. So even if right, yeah, you get so
if you so, if I went and I bought dinner
three from the e shop right now, I would get
digital gold coins. Yes, yeah, I'm one hundred percent sure
of that. So why is there a.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Time you bought the physical copy more than a year?

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
You know why it is? Sorry? I just I literally
just slapped the baby with this, like like I was
doing a shoulder tap. I'm sorry, sorry, I don't know
why I did that. You know why it is?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Eh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Pre owned? Well yeah, people don't because well, it only
works one time. So if you do it and then
you sell it, the next guy can't do it. But
I think what they're avoiding is people picking up a
game for twenty dollars pre owned at a mom and
pop store three years after it came out and getting
your full value. Yeah, so they give you the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Year when they also don't get it at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
That's definitely why so digital you always get it because
you're always paying the amount and they know how much
you're paying. There's a lot of stipulations to this. There's
a lot of hoops.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I'm gonna have to look into that and see how
many I've got, because I bet you it's probably not
that many anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Yeah. Someone said it's sense though, No, I mean it's
it's yeah, and then those make dollars and then no, well,
if a whole game is three bucks, that's not bad.
I don't know. I don't know. I'm moving on, moving on.
You know, you've been informed, you've been filled in. What
do you want from me? All right? What time are

(01:09:15):
we at?

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
We've been added for a little over an hour, have
we Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
How do you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
It's four thirty?

Speaker 7 (01:09:21):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Yeah, we have? Oh good lord, Well, I really got
into a groove there. Yeah, I thought I was going
to struggle to get to an hour and then I
just know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
I think struggling with the rapper took at least five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Yep, Oh, Kim, you want to watch this. I actually
haven't seen this yet. Pokemon cards stolen in Melbourne. Oh
how do I pause?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Here we go. It's not going to have any sound.
I'm now realizing I got really got to figure out sounds.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Yeah. I have a lot of questions and it has
camera us.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
My guy, we don't need the sound. We don't need
the sound. Sorry, this is a nine News from Australia,
which is why I thought it was interesting. I believe Melbourne. Yeah, Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
You missed the part where she said wheely bin. It's
a shame.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Well, I know, I'm scared to hit play again after
that horrible noise it made. Oh they filled a wheely
bin feel full with Pokemon cards. Dude, this is too much.
I'm sorry. If rub a jewelry store, if you're going
to commit a heist, rub somewhere of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Value, the nerdiest robbery of.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Ever Pokemon cards and then what turn around and try
and list them? And I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I hope they didn't get one good card.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
I know Pokemon cards are expensive, but that's pathetic.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Like, honestly, if you're not a big chain, this is
like an end of dependently owned I know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Yeah, And that's another thing. It's like a mum and
pop most likely a mum and pop store. And you're
in Australia too, Like Australia, you're supposed to have each
other's backs. Man, it's a there's like ten people that
live in Melbourne. You're gonna roub from your cousin.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Look at this idiot with half of his balding head
sticking out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Dude, that's so upsetting. Yes, seriously, Robert, Robert Chain, Robert
jewelry store and rob someone's Pokemon cards.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Also, what weather was it? Because you got shorts on
and a puffer jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I don't know if we should critique the the burglar's attire.
I don't think that's the issue. Roast clearly these people
don't make good decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yeah, clearly.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Anyway, I thought that was interesting. Sorry about that, a
little tangent there, But Pokemon presents this next week. I
just wanted to touch on that quickly before we get
out of here. I really I'm not clued in the
Pokemon world. It's not really my main thing. I don't
really have any predictions. I'm always off base with Pokemon stuff.

(01:12:08):
I can't even tell you really. All I hope to
see is a release date for Z and A and
more news about the switch to I just switch one
of it all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
When a Pokemon came that looks nice, man, that's solo one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Yeah. The only thing I'll say I kind of hope
we get is Pokemon Black and White remake kind of things,
because I never played those, and everyone says they are
like with the last really good ones, so I'd love
a chance to actually play them. And all I wish
is that they look nice like Let's go, and they
don't look horrific like brilliant Diamond and shining pearl. My

(01:12:44):
personal opinion on that, I just hope they look gorgeous.
This is Pokemon we're talking about. There's no reason why
they shouldn't look immaculate.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
I wanted to reflect how much money the Pokemon company has, like, please,
you can afford to make a good game. Can you
please stop cutting corners? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I know I get this. I go in this conversation
all the time because there are people that legitimately think
Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl were either fine or they
actually looked good objectively. I believe they are just hideous,
and they hired a mobile game company who had only
made like one thing before to do those remakes. I
don't know why we're pretending like they knocked their first

(01:13:24):
game out of the park, like they were inexperienced. The
game is fine, it's nothing special, and but the Pokemon
company should be paying someone with experience that knows how
to make things look beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
You can afford a company that knows how to make
a game for a console, not just a mobile game.
You have the money to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
I almost wonder if they didn't want it to look
too good because their own main games that their making
look so bad that if they hired a company to
make a remake that actually looked beautiful, the questions would
be asked. I feel like they have to keep things
in line with the main series at this point, so
everything just has to look bad.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
You know, not make your main series look like dookie.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
I mean that's a that's a good point and a
different conversation. I have eight messages from Bob. He is blowing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
That's a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
New rumor suggests upcoming classic. So this is a thread
rumor that got thirty six thousand likes and two point
two million views. And I think for the most part,
we're not believing this. I think I and again, I
know nothing about Pokemon. I think this is just from
our four chan leak, but it's literally all I know

(01:14:39):
to go on. So we're going to read them, and
I am not believing. It contains jen one to three
in this port collection Pokemon Memories red Gold, Ruby and
fire Red, Pokemon Reminiscence, Blue silver, sapphire and leaf green.

(01:15:01):
So so what this is saying is there's going to
be two Pokemon Port collection packs released, one called Pokemon Memories,
one called Pokemon Remnants Opposites and yeah, one will have
the one side which is the red, gold, ruby and
fire red so all like the red equivalents, and the
other side will have the blue, silver, sapphire, leaf green,

(01:15:22):
so that the counterpart equipments, and then yellow crystal and
emerald for digital purchase, so those I guess aren't on
the collection but are in the digital and then home
support for all of those. So Pokemon Home Kim. If
you don't know, is this app you can get on Switch,

(01:15:42):
which you can import your Pokemon into it from Pokemon
games that are on Switch. So Scarlet and Violet, Sword
and Shield, I believe get kis. I don't know which ones. Again,
I'm not the Pokemon guy. But you can take it
Pokemon from Scarlet Violet, put it in the Home, take
it from Home, put it in Sword and Shield.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
You could do with the Go as well or no.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Goal is I believe part of Home.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Yeah, so you have to be like level forty two
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
I'm not sure, but I do know when you take
a Pokemon out, yes, but also it changes its stats
or it removes its stats or whatever. I think. Right,
so if you have like a three star Pokemon going,
it won't be It's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Like when I trade with you, you don't know what
it's stature again Yeah, okay, they treat it like a trade.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Yeah, so uh yeah, I don't know. Do we believe
this chat? I don't know. This is from Fortune. It's
being shared on Twitter. Let me see what the tweets
are saying. What's with the GBA and pictures? Why not
just put them on switch GBA. Even if this was true,
it wouldn't let you trade to newer gens. I was
actually thinking that too. Yeah, it seems like comments here

(01:16:52):
aren't sure. No, I don't know. This idea of a
Pokemon collection has been floating around for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Yeah, people have been saying it's been going They've been
saying that for years, which I believe because I mean,
that's what people would want. But I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Think it's what people would want, but that doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
No, I know, that's what I mean. It's like you're
giving them too much though. Look at how many games
you would get in that collection. I feel like they
don't want to spread it out and do them individually.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
These games have been weirdly missing from anything that has
happened on Switch, suspicious from the Nintendo Switch on line
apps or any kind of re releases or ways to
play them for your reason, So it would make sense
that they're holding them off for something like this, but
it could also make it could also not make sense

(01:17:37):
for any reason and they just don't want to do it.
It could also be like a we're already putting out
our main new titles. We don't want people playing our
old games, exactly like we don't want someone picking up
Pokemon fire Red on the Nintendo Switch app, playing that
for forty hours and not buying Scarlet and Violet two
or whatever. Yeah, it could be and that could sound dumb,

(01:18:00):
and it might be dumb, and that could legitimately be
the reason.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I don't think that sounds dumb. I think that's strategic
on their part, because think about the games that people
say we're good compared to what they're doing. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Yeah, no, I agree, so uh that honestly, that could
be the reason. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
I don't I'm not a be nice.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
If we get it, I won't be surprised if we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
It would honestly be pretty sick, to be honest, because
these games are perfect the way they were. Yeah, you
don't really need to remake them. Like I love the
way the Let's Go game looked, And to be honest, like,
if I had an option between playing the original game
that looked like Let's Go or the original game, I
would pick the Let's Go version because I honestly think
it looks great and it'd be great to re experience

(01:18:44):
the game. And I'm talking about traditionally, not the weird
rat wacky controls it added. Obviously, I would want it
to look like that, look pretty and gorgeous. But if
you're telling me that that that option isn't there and
they're just re releasing the way they were, they were
perfect the way they were, and they will so I'll
still play them as they were, exactly the way they were,
and I'll have no issue with that. Could be better

(01:19:05):
good the way they are? Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Yep? I wonder if they're ever going to do Pokemon
Stadium again. I don't do Pokemon Snap.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Again, but well, now that they've got home support that
you can actually move your Pokemon around, it would be
really sick if they did Pokemon Stadium three, that would
be really sick. Kimberly, because one of my favorite things,
Oh god, we're going down a time goal. I don't
know if you were part of this, Kim, but back
in the day, Pokemon was on game Boy and they

(01:19:37):
were sprites. They were little sprites, right ye. Then on
sixty four there was no like Pokemon game. It might
have been like Snap or something. But then they did
Stadium and if you link cabled You're sixty four to
your game Boy, you could take your game boy Pokemon
and put them in the stadium. And I know it's
silly because it's all just digital sprites, but it feels

(01:19:58):
like that. At the time when I was a kid,
my game was so important to me and I loved
my little Pokemon, but I only ever saw them as sprites.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
I don't know how to explain this, because if you like,
if you load stadium up, if you load Stadium up
and you don't connect your game and there's a Ganga.
As a kid, I was still like, that's sick. It's
Gangar in three D and I can battle with him.
But putting my Ganga into the game and seeing my
gang it was like seeing my son grow up. It

(01:20:30):
was like an emotional attachment. I was like, sim that's
my Ganga. Tell me your thing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Oh, mine's worse. I don't know. You never played it.
This was my game back. And there's Pets with a Z.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
You know you told me about it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
We talked about it all right, So you could poort
your Pets with Z into the newer iterations of the games,
and like the original Pets and like Pets Too, you
really didn't have a lot of shit going on, like
there was no like stuff to do with them. You
could throw a ball. That's about all you get. But
then you get to Pets five with a Z and

(01:21:04):
then you can like travel with them and you can
take them to like Arabia and all these other places,
and you can give them clothes and they can have friends.
And so my original dog that I had from the
very first game, I had him saved on a floppy
because I was scared of Oh yeah, oh, I was
Could you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Put that into the new game? You could take your
floppy disc from one and you could import your floppy
disc guy into five into five. Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
And then suddenly all this new shit was there for him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
It was very excited fact that we are so old,
the fact that we're talking about what we used to
do with floppy discs. Good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
The amount of floppy discs I had full of Pets
with a Z buddy that I had created myself with
the hexing program.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
My child is going to graduate high school in twenty
forty two, and we used to play games with floppy discs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Yeah, oh, I was a paranoid saver that would say
everything on those I was buying a weekly because you know,
you can only save like sixty four not even.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
On a floppy disk. It was like megabytes. It was
like two megabytes or something. I mean, chat will know
for sure. I don't know, but I was like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
A couple of mega but I had full of them, of.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Just pet It was literally at a time where like
a thousand killer bytes made a megabyte, and at the
time you were like, this could fit a whole megabyte. Yeah,
like a thousand killer bytes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
I remember when the flash drive first came out.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
I remember we're on a Tangent. I remember getting my
first three MP three player, and if I recall correctly,
it had something like one hundred and twenty eight megabytes
story and it could literally fit maybe like ten albums
at most.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Oh you had it. Oh, mine was worse than yours then,
because maybe it wasn't even ten ten songs.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Well it was more than ten songs, but maybe it
was like forty songs or thirty songs.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Was very shit. I loved him very much though. My
little sand it had like a little case and everything.
You can clip it to your pants.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
One point forty four megabytes. Someone said, I'm getting that
if that's true, Yeah, all right, I can't believe I
remembered how much memory is on a floppy disc because
that is not my expertise. Yeah, wow, well, I mean
but I remember I said two. But like in the Bullpark,
you got to give that to me. Okay, women, I

(01:23:27):
was only going to do an hour, but I've been
vibing those that were there two other things I wanted
to talk about. We do have to do a bonus episode.
I'll leave it up to you, Kim, if we're gonna
do it. Now we're in the bonus. The first one
was I don't know if you saw, but the official

(01:23:47):
uh Top ten Nintendo Switch Games list was released. It's
a ranking of every Switch game, with ten the top
ten being placed in ten. It is the official ten.
So I thought we could look at that, and then
I was going to briefly talk about the Marvel rival situation.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
M hm. I feel like that's more of a U
call because you know which one you're going to talk
about more so, and then how long you want this
episode to be. One's got to be for the bonus.
You can't do I'm trying to rational.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
I guess we could. We can look at the official
top ten Switch games in the bonus It came from
an outlet called Woodhowker beat them Uch Wood? But it
is the official top ten, all right, because if if
someone's going to do it, why not me? You know,

(01:24:53):
why not me? Who's better? Who else? I mean, ntendo themselves?
Probably I assumed it was Nintendo. That may me until
Nintendo does it. This is the official list because who else?
If Scott the was did one, I would consider it,

(01:25:14):
but even still, no, thank you. This is the one. Okay,
this is my whole job. Like literally, in the never
played section, I only have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine games and one of them's Big Brain and
two of them are the same game, so come on,
I've played them all. If not me, then who you

(01:25:38):
want to hear the top ten?

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
That's official by the day, But.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
You want to hear the top ten on? I want
to break it down more in the bonus because people
had some things to say, although I will say for
the most part, most of the comments were saying yeah,
like I'm not even playing, although reading the top comments
are probably going to be a mess. Most people were

(01:26:01):
like this, I would change some things maybe, but this
is fair, and I actually I was really appreciative of that.
I think the only things people really had an issue
with was me putting Pokemon Archaeus in Top ten, which
I knew would be controversial. I just felt a Pokemon
game needed to go up there, because when you're talking
about Top tens, Pokemon sold.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Millions, the ips need to be the IP.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Sold millions and brought a lot of people to the
corn and I'm taking that into account. Yeah, I had
to put a Pokemon game up there, and I just
felt like that was the most polished one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Oh yeah, you can't put Detective Pikachu there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
You and you can't put Scarland Violet. They were a mess,
and Sword and Shield were a little too rudimentary, like
basic for me. Anyway, I'm I'm repeating myself, but Smash
both as Elder's Breath of the World in Tears, Animal Crossing,
Mario Card eight, Mario Odisty, Super Mario Wonder Jamboree, and

(01:26:58):
Splat three. Yeah, the only noise I heard were people
saying that Pokemonarchists maybe shouldn't be up there, and there's
something like Metroid Dread, But like for me, Metroid Dread,
like that's that's more of a niche if you love
that kind of game you're going to love it? Is
it a top ten? I mean it's it's eight hours

(01:27:19):
long ish if you don't get stuck.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
I just think most people would opt for a Pokemon
game in general.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Yeah, I mean, Metro Metroid is great and it is
s tire, but it only sold three million copies, so
like most people didn't even play it. I just couldn't
give it top ten end of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Top ten in that case would be your opinion, not
based on sales.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Yes, yeah, yeah, And like I was going to do
a version, that was my opinion, and I would probably
move spotween three down at Metroid dread up. But even
then my opinion is swayed by the success of a
game and how many people legitimately enjoyed it. When I'm
trying to come up with a top ten and for

(01:28:00):
the console, right, like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Because you're not doing it for yourself, because your list
A lot of this would be.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Like I adored games like astral Chain, Yeah, but like,
am I going to put astral Chain in s No,
It's just not an STA game. It's just a niche
to me, and I love it. Anyway, we can talk
about it more. Maybe I put out a whole video
ranking everything. Oh okay, but I thought it'd be interesting
to talk about the fallout. The only other thing quickly

(01:28:26):
was the Marvel Rivals situation, only because I made a
react to UPS video about it. Oh yeah, so I
told you I'll make this really quick. Honestly, I might
just bonus it. I just don't know if I want
to get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Again, say quickly, but it becomes a deeper issue.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
It's a deeper conversation because so for those that don't know,
and I won't pull up anything, I can't be bothered.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Here are my facts.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Here are my facts. I'm chat GBT right now. The
USA development team got laid off, so that the R
and D team, the research and development team, they got
laid off from Marvel Rivals. Now the news broke and
blew up because people were like, how the hell can
the game that's so successful that just launched lay off

(01:29:12):
the develop the game to a developer and director team
in the US.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
The reason that it exists on the first list.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
So that's the thing. They're not the reason the game exists.
The game is made in China, and there is a
game developer and game director and main studio in China
that made the game. The team in America, they handled
things like localizing the game, making it in English, the

(01:29:39):
whole development. Well, that's what people are calling misinformation. The
thing is, and I talked about this in the video,
and even still with me talking about it, people in
the comments were calling the video misinformation, even though I
talked about the things they're trying to say is misinformation.
By calling it misinformation, you are downplaying the fact that
people that worked on this game were laid off out

(01:30:02):
of nowhere when they didn't expect it. Teams of people
in this industry, in the gaming industry, working on a
very successful game were laid off. That is not misinformation.
That is what happened, right. These people they did work
on aspects of game development, with level design and map design,
and some character design and the law that goes into

(01:30:23):
the characters and taking their comic book roots and turning
them into these characters in the game. They did. They
weren't like the main team, but they worked on a
lot of that and a lot of localization. Now, apparently
R and D teams in general, often they are let
go after a game is released. A game will release

(01:30:46):
once it's got once it's out there and it's running,
the R and D team will get let Go. I
do think it's a different situation when it's a live
service game, and you can tell that these people working
there were not expecting to get let go. It's a
live service game that just got released. It's very successful.
They are releasing new characters and new content every month.

(01:31:09):
This team most likely thought they would continue working on
that stuff with net Ease and the main team at China.
Could you still have to localize that stuff? They still
have to there's still maps going to be made, characters
going to be made. I think what happened is net
Ease and they realized that they now that they were

(01:31:31):
off and running and everything was set up, they could
do away with the American team that were costing them
more because our wages are higher, and just keep the
team in China and take over what they were doing
and make it internal. So I think it's different for
a live service game because it's just released. Content still

(01:31:51):
being made. And I think what's important here is that
this team weren't expecting to lose their jobs, even though
maybe they were in a sub section for the industry
that generally get laid off.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
But if it was communicated to them that they weren't
being laid off.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
And it seems to me like it was communicated to
them that they had job security at least for the meantime.
I mean, when a game is this successful and making
this much money, R and D teams aren't always laid off,
and they're not always immediately laid off. So I think
in this position, they thought, oh, we're going to be
safe for a while. This is life service, this is

(01:32:28):
making a lot of money. The things we're working on
are still actively being developed, and it caught them by surprise.
So I don't think it. I don't think. I think
a lot of people that are just saying this is
misinformation that they should be laid off, you know, That's
what it seems like.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
It seems to mean they thought the same thing I thought.
But that's not necessarily.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
But the thing is in my video I talked about that,
I spent fifteen minutes talking about how they're the you
and the title of my video from release said the
U I say development team by it. In the video,
I talk about how the main team is in China,
and I talked in the video about how the people
working in America handled things like what I said just now,

(01:33:13):
and people were like, this is misinformation, And I feel
like that is just I don't know when people. I
think people latch onto something when they see, like people
talking about something, someone says misinformation, that person gets a
lot of likes and a lot of engagement because people
are like, oh, I didn't know. So when I talked
about it, people were like, misinformation, and then it gets

(01:33:34):
a lot of likes and people are like, oh, I
did not watch the video then. But also I just
feel like it's downplaying the fact that people in the
game industry that felt like they had some sort of
job security in that moment were laid off, right, And
that's that's all I was trying to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
The misinformation issue for me was the article I saw
did not specify that it was a US team. It
just said developers ran let Go. And I was like, well,
that's a bit shitty.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
I mean, maybe I'm being too much of a bleeding heart,
and maybe I'm being too empathetic, and maybe these these
R and D teams should expect to be fired, or should.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Expect if it was community, that they were staying on
for longer than that is a surprise.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
Or so.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
The two main people that got let go, both their
statements said, essentially, the vibe was, didn't expect this. Despite
our team helping contribute to this game being a huge success,
us and our team are let off, laid off. Please
help us and my crew find work. So for me,

(01:34:38):
that says they didn't expect it. They didn't know they
were going to be laid off, despite being in an
industry and in a sub section of the development team
where maybe they can normally expect to be laid off,
they didn't expect it. And I think that is the
route concern and issue, despite what their job is in
the game industry, despite what might be common in the
game industry, I still think that's a concern.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
I think you should know your jobs ending, you know.
I think think it should be a surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
I think they should know. Again, I think if a
game like what's a big game that came out recently,
like Black Myth Wukong that's a Chinese, Chinese game, I'm
pretty sure if they had an American R and D team,
the game came out, it'd been out for a month
or two, super successful, but it's over. Yeah, so they're
going to get fired. Yeah, like right, you can expect that.

(01:35:24):
I think the fact that it's life service and we're
just at the start of it and it has like
six hundred thousand concurrent players, I think I just think
they felt we're going to be good for at least
a year or two.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
I just feel like there had to be something else
to that rather than just blindly assuming, because I feel
like if you're in that industry, you know how temperamental
it can be, and you wouldn't just assume that you
had a job. Something had to have been said and
they were like, oh good, my job's safe.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
I don't know. The game industry is such a mess
and it's on fire and people getting laid off left, right,
and center. So I'm more inclined to believe that it's
another sign of the game industry being the game industry.
But maybe maybe maybe the people that got fired are
being dramatic, Maybe they're they're overreacting. Maybe they knew they

(01:36:16):
were getting fired and they're trying to do a well
wass me situation. Personally, I don't think so, and that's
not that's not what my first inclination was. But sure,
anything's possible.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Well, I feel like if they are allowing, it'd be
pretty easy to prove with receipts of the company telling
them there was a certain I.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Feel like if it was an expected layoff, they would
have just said something like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
I feel like they would have said something like, we
helped launch this successful game. Our team is no longer
needed due to it being released, and our contract has expired,
but hey, we helped make this game a huge seller.
Here's our employers if you want us to do it
for your game, rather than we just got fired, didn't

(01:37:01):
expect it. It sucks because we helped them, Please hire us.
Like that just seems like two different messages, and I
feel like maybe we should question why they felt that way,
rather than saying it's misinformation. The main team is in
China and the game's fine. Don't worry about the game.
The game's fine. They were just the R and D
team in America. Who cares about the Americans but China.

(01:37:24):
The China developers still have their job. Screw the Americans.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
I just feel bad for anybody that loses their job.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
I think I felt bad for them, yeah, but I
don't know. Maybe that's just me that's how I felt
about it, but maybe you feel differently, and you can
let me know down below. We need to get out
of here. Into the bonus episode. Yeah, mom just said, Oops,
you're alive, and I've been effing blowing you up. No,

(01:37:53):
you're fine, buddy. I don't know if you're still here.
We're trying to get dinner Saturday night, so he sent
me different places to get food at. Oh and thank
you Dragonheart for the dono. I actually saw your dono
last week and replied to it in the bonus episode.
But he says, when when will you be live on

(01:38:13):
Twitch again? Miss you there. I don't know if you're
a pai. I'm pretty sure you are a Patreon. But
I gave a whole explanation on the Bonus episode last week.
I'm not going to be streaming on Twitch until the
Switch two comes out. I'm taking that time. I have
a baby coming, I'm trying to focus on work, and
I honestly just can't sit there and stream for hours
on end, like three times a week or whatever. I know.

(01:38:37):
Snow is coming.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Down outside right now to out there. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Yeah, Twitch is on hold, But when the Switch two
comes out and things are moving again and there's actually
exciting things to stream, and me going live and streaming
like Mario Kart and recording the footage is like helping
me when I make my review that then I can
work streaming back in. But just going live and goofing
off for a few hours with people in life chat.

(01:39:03):
While it is fun, I'm just not getting any work
done right now, and I've really got to focus in
on work and and getting ready for this baby. It's
it's all I'm thinking about. And I don't know if
you guys noticed, but that that switch to video I
did with the switch to will fail. It's one of
my favorite videos I've done, and it's because I had

(01:39:23):
a time to focus on it. And I'm doing another
one right now, and it's because I have time to
focus on it. So I'm just trying to align my
my focus a bit better because I have ADHD. Let
me bring it all back around, Kim, thanks for sitting
with me. We gotta, I gotta, I gotta bail. Hey
what you heard this? It's gonna take away? It has
such a slow, low build up. I need to actually,

(01:39:47):
I think I need to cut the start of the
song off just so that it hits so that when
I when I'm ready for it, I can hit it.
Thank you so much everybody for being with us today,
watching and listening. How good is this song? So good? Kim,

(01:40:09):
thanks for sitting with me and talking with me. I
hope you had a good time. You did really good today.
Thank you everybody. Let us know your thoughts down below
on everything we talked about. I'm sorry if the music's
too loud, but I'm also not. Yeah, let me know
all your thoughts down below, like comment. Remember to subscribe
because I'm trying really hard to get that one hundred thousand.

(01:40:31):
And if you're a Patreon, we'll see you over for
the bonus episode. You get a bonus episode every single week.
I'm gonna do one right now and talk about a
lot oh so many fun things, so many fun things,
and we'll see you there that it links down below
for the Patreon. Love you guys, Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (01:40:53):
Goodbye, sh.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
Show, very lady show. The show
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