Black Sheep - Mr. Farley Goes To Washington (State) - That Bad Media

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Welcome back, you sons of bitches. Oh my goodness, welcome back.
Oh we glad to see you all. For the first episode of season two
of Not That Bad. Season two, we were in a whole nother season.
We left for a short period oftime and by the time we came
back, our show changed seats.We didn't have scheduling issues. We were

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just this is all part of theplan. Well, folks, yeah,
struggling podcast or not, we areyour favorite bad take artists back recording another
episode. My name is Connor AKAGrain Enthusiast Chris Barley, and I,
of course am joined by the legendary, the illustrious mister Gabe Tye in his

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RoboCop T shirt. Gabe, howare you at least I have respect for
the dead? Chris? Chris?What did you call him? I said?
I am Grain Enthusiast Chris Barley.Chris Barley, Yeah, you know,
yes, in peace were a legend, right, Chris Barley gesus,
Yeah, you know the akas Sometimesthey're good, sometimes maybe no good,

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sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit. I don't know anyways, Uh,
how are you doing after all thistime? Man? We we've we've had
all this time away where we're finallyback here. Before we talk about the
movie, let's talk about how you'redoing. How am I doing? I
don't think I really have an emotionalstate between podcast. I think I just

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hibernate until it's time to record again. No, I mean thinking about the
last time that we recorded and putdown an episode. Things have been happening.
I do hope that I can bringsome cool news to you guys,
some new projects on the horizon.It's definitely all I'll say for now.

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I'm an incredibly superstitious guy. Myfamily can't can't ring things out of me.
They're like, some honey, wo, who have you been talking to
about about this new script? No? One? Well, what's it about?
Nothing? What's it called? It'sthe script with no name? Mom,

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Just stop asking about it. No, I've never written a script in
my entire life. Are gobly true? Argably true? Now, things have
been going well. I definitely tooka break over the holidays, a mental
break. I've been watching more moviesin the theaters before. I think you
didn't watch a single movie in theaterslast year, Is that right? I
didn't watch a single movie that cameout last year. I haven't seen a

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single movie that came out in theyear twenty twenty three. Yet it was
a really bad year as far astiming went for me. I was really
disappointed. And then I finally thelast day of the year, literally the
last day of the year, Ihad an opportunity that I had some time
free, and I said, youknow what, it's a meme at this
point, I'm just gonna watch somethingelse, and so I did. So.

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Yeah, I didn't see any moviesthat came out last year, unfortunately.
Glad to hear that you're getting tothe theater more. I think it's
an experience that a lot of peopleare kind of trading in for the streaming
experience now. And you know,if that's what you're all about. Cool,
you know, no annoying teenagers inthe in your living room. Well,
you know, unless you have annoyingteenagers in your house. But you

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know, there's nothing like that theaterexperience. What's the last thing you went
and saw out of curiosity? Lastnight? I saw The Beekeeper? Oh,
the Beekeeper? How was that?Jason Statham's Jason Satham, the last
action hero, the only action herothat I would consider to be in his
prime and to actually be constantly consistentlyputting out those kinds of classic action throwback

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movies. Like when we talk aboutthe state of action films, you know,
people talk about Tom Cruise and KeanuReeves, but those guys are like
they they they wear the action herolike a like a suit, right,
especially Keanu, because you know he'shad a very versatile career. Jason Satham
is a bloke who was invented ina blow collaboratory to be put in projects

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exactly like The bee Keeper, andpeople have been praising it in an ironic
way. I had an unironically goodtime with it. I was surprised at
how much I enjoyed it as somebodywho doesn't really miss the testosterone era of
action movies that much. It's notlike something I'm super fond of. It's

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still won me over. And I'vealways liked Jason Statham. I mean,
it's interesting that he is the actionman on poster now when he started out
doing Guy Ritchie movies, he startedout doing Snatch, And I really want
people to look back and remember justhow charismatic of an actor he is,
and not just how good of apuncher or kicker he is. Yeah.

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You know, I think so manyof these action movies that come out now,
you know, they either get peopletalking the wrong way or the right
way, And I feel like moreand more lately they get people talking the
wrong way. You know, theytalk about the agendas behind action movies or
whatever else you can talk about.I just like when a movie comes out
and it's just fun, you know, it doesn't really matter what you think,

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what you believe, who you are, where you're from, you can
go see it. You can havea good time. It seems like The
Beekeeper is that kind of movie.Interesting you say that fun movie. I
don't know, Well, it isa fun movie for me, But it's
interesting you say that because it wasthe most explicitly political action movie I've seen.
Like it's sort of being embraced bythe anti woke crowd, or at

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least people who it's being brought upas an example of non woke movies or
a political movies because the script isso devoted to indulging and you know,
action cliches. But the truth is, it's like the most politically charged movie.

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Like you won't really believe just howmuch commentary a movie called The Bee
Keeper goes for it. This isthe same movie where somebody asks Jason Statham
with a gun to his head tobe or not to be, and Jason
Stathan says, I think to beand then he presses a button on his

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watch, making a bunch of carsexplode. That's how Oh my god,
Yeah, that's how the conflict inThe Beagkeeper has resolved. But that's that's
punctuating scenes of allegory to the deepstate into crypto scams. Hillary Clinton is
basically a character. And the thingis, I don't know where to classify
it. Is it woke because itanti woke? Is it? Does it

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hate both of those camps equally?I actually really look forward to the debate
that people might have about the sociopolitical agenda of The beag Keeper. But
it has an agenda, there's nodoubt about that. Well, speaking of
politics, speaking of debates and thatwhole nature around the political scene. And
you always a master of the segue, always a master of Today we are

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discussing a movie that is about thatvery topic, more localized than national,
but that's okay. We're talking aboutnineteen ninety six is Black Sheep starring Chris
Farley, David Spade. It isthe follow up for them for Tommy Boy,
incredibly successful comedy film released a fewyears prior twenty eight percent on Rotten

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Tomatoes in a two point nine outof five on Letterbox. That rating has
grown since I actually added it tomy personal list to cover on the show
last year. It was at atwo point seven when I added it to
my list, and it seems tobe growing in popularity, but clearly a
film that disappointed a lot of people. Do you have any experienced background with
this movie? I know that we'reboth big Chris Farley fans. Is this

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one that you saw earlier? Didyou come to this one a little later?
This movie's in my lore, Likeif you want to understand my mythology,
it's in there. It's in thelore. Specifically, it has important
lore for my history with my wife, and that's really the reason I wanted
to talk about this spoiler alert.I don't know how much passion I have
for this movie as like a singleentity, as an artifact, but basically

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it goes like this. This isback when me and my wife were dating,
and I was at her house andher dad he had a copy of
Black Sheep, so I tell mywife, have you seen this? This
is Oh my god, this isone of Chris Farley's movies. This is
one of the few movies that hegot to make since he obviously, you

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know, died so tragically young.And I'd never seen it, but I
wanted to watch it to see justwhat, if anything, this has had
for fans of his who obviously,you know, we when it comes to
people who passed away too soon,we go back and we really go over
their body work with a fine toothcomb, to you know, to cope

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with the fact that obviously they arenot with us anymore to produce new material.
So even stuff that you know,in their lifetime was definitely not considered
any sort of crown jewel. That'snot black sheep at all. I still
wanted to watch it, so sheagrees. We watch it, and we
are not impressed. It's a terrible, terrible first impression for Chris Farley,

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unfortunately. And the thing is thatmy wife is very upset with me because
since then, I've actually looked backat this movie fondly. I've always gone
like, that's actually a it's afine movie, like it's a pleasant watch.
And she points out that while watchingit, I was I was really
picking apart the screenplay. I wasreally picking apart how little this represents represented

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such little growth for Chris Farley's career. And we can talk about this movie's
relationship with Tommy Boy, but overallI still looked back at this with rose
tinted glasses because that's just how muchI like Chris Farley. And this is
this Jesse existed to be a vehiclefor Chris Farley and his burgeoning film career.

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So the thing with vehicles is itrides or dies on the charisma of
its star, and in this case, it was Chris Farley. So he
elevates this completely like nothing else youcan compare it to. He elevated Black
Sheep for me into something that Ilook back at fondly. And my wife

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does not have those roads tinted glasses. She will always hate this movie.
So it's always been a bit ofan in joke between us and I sometimes
joke that she it's glad that ChrisFarley is dead because of how much she
did not take to this movie.And ah, that's a joke. That's
that I need to suspend. That'sa joke. I need to suspend oh

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man. So that's my that's myhistory with this. I've only ever seen
it once before the recording, butit's always kind of loomed in the background
for me because it was such athis is at such a crossroads between my
love, my wanting to love it, and the actual reality of the quality
of it. Yeah. And onething to put into context too, about

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this kind of period of time forfar League, because this was sort of
pretty early on. It was definitelyearly on in his career as a leading
man. He had had a coupleof good years, appearing in films,
you know, movies like Wayne's Worldand Wayne's World, Two Airheads, Billy
Madison, and I think he wasin Coneheads too, but that's you know,

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we won't talk about Coneheads either way. Though, he gets to star
in Tommy Boy, and then thisyear in nineteen ninety six was the beginning
of three really tough years for him, and we were gonna see that turn
around. So we got ninety sixBlack Sheep. Ninety seven was Beverly Hills
Ninja, which didn't do well.Also, he actually really physically hurt himself

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in that movie, and he wasvery he beat up on himself a lot
mentally afterwards because of its failure.And then that was followed up by his
last film, which last official completedfilm in nineteen ninety eight eight almost heroes
with starring another before his time.He is, Yeah, Matthew Perry,

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Matthew Perry. And it really sucksbecause that same year he was also in
Norm MacDonald's movie Dirty Work, whichhe just appeared in, and that was
a movie that was critically panned aswell, and we were about to really
see a renaissance of Farley's career,even though he really hadn't had a long
career to begin with. He wasgoing to be the star of Shrek.

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He was going to play Fatty Arbucklein a in a biopick about him.
Was that official? Had that goneoff the ground? The person that was
writing the biopic said that they had. They had been given a lot of
like mixed signals about whether or notit was happening, but that he that
nobody would have been more perfect forthe film than Farley. Farley was preparing

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himself for it too. You knowwho else was trying to start in a
Fatty Arbuckle bio? Right? Idon't John Belushi. I mean and you
know, one of the things that'stragic about Farley two is that how how
like beloved he was. And ina song that Adam Sandler performed when he
returned to Saturday Night Live a fewyears back, was about Chris Farley and

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how everybody told him he would endup like his heroes, which were John
Belushi and John Candy. So youknow, the fact that that ended up
coming to pass is terrible. Hehe really is to me. I think
he's one of the funniest people ofall time. I think he's got one
of the most charismatic perform He canjust be charismatic in anything he does.

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It's not just that he was funny, Like that's really understelling the value of
Chris Farley, the unique quality ofChris Farley. He was the most intensely
likable human being. He was somebodywho commanded the screen with a rare quality
among stars, which is is friendliness, kindness. Uh. I mean,

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we've had, we've we always havea place in culture for for guys like
Chris Farley. We want the bestfriend of movie stars. But the way
he turned that into a force ofpersonality, the way he like was this
force of nature with that. That'swhat's so unparalleled. And that's what I

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don't know. It's like, ishe really gone? He still doesn't feel
gone because I don't think anybody haseclipsed him. I don't think so either,
And I think it's really it's impossibleto because he's a one of one.
You know, nobody can be ChrisFarley, and we've seen it.
I mean, he's got a brotherthat looks just like him, but not
just like him, but it's closeenough that you know, they could have
done stuff with his brother, butit just never worked because he's could have

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tried the Jim Belushi but it's notgonna work. It's not gonna work.
If Jim Belushi proved anything, it'snot. Yes, and Jim Belushi also,
they're like, no slight on himeither. He's just not John and
and and none of Chris's brothers orChris because he's in one of one.
And it's really interesting to think aboutwhat the world would be like with a
Shrek movie that's starring Chris Farley,or with a fatty arbuckle biopick that maybe

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people would have really seen his hisdramatic chopson. Oh, it's just like
going back to John Belushi, anotherguy. I know, there's a lot
more distance with John Belushi's death,and I think his I don't want to
say his legacy's fading from memory,but it doesn't have that that relevancy,
that that sore wound nature that thatChris Farley's death has. But you know,

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John Belushi, he was going througha similar thing. He had a
movie career after an amazing run onSNL, and his movie career started off
well with things like Animal House andThe Blues Brothers, and then, you
know, because of a mixture ofhim taking bad projects and you know,
personal turmoil in his own life withaddiction problems, his career was declining.

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It was declining fast. But hewas set to star in something that should
have been a huge comeback vehicle forhim. He was going to be in
Ghostbusters, but of course, withhis untimely passing, that role went to
Bill Murray. And it's crazy toimagine an alternate reality where John Belushi stars

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in Ghostbusters and Chris Farley stars inTrek. Now, I don't want to
make it sound like I like BillMurray in Ghostbusters is one of those all
time iconic holes like I'm not saying, oh I wish that, Like I
think Bill Murray or Mike Myers werewrong for those projects. They just got

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those because these other actors died.It's not like it's just that's the nature
of this industry of creativity is opportunitiesthat are gained and lost either through merit
or through sometimes trgedy or both.I mean, I think both could be
said for both of those cases.Bill Murray a legendary actor for his time

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and even still to this day.And of course Mike Myers, you know,
another just he's considered a legendary statusin the comedy world. He's done
a lot of great things. Andobviously Shrek is considered to be one of
the best animated movies ever. Peoplelove Ghostbusters. They say it's one of
the best films of the eighties.It's a lot of people's favorite movie that

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I talked to who like eighties movies. So Ghostbusters really transcends absolutely. But
Black Sheep, where that fits inis this middle class of movies of the
SNL comedy era. The really interestingthing about SNL back then is that it
wasn't just it was not just thes like there was this whole institution of

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SNL and the offspring and the spinoffsand the things that created not just by
making its performers stars, which itdid, but even just like Black Sheep,
it's not technically an SNL movie,but I cannot disassociate it with with
the SNL of that era. Well, it doesn't help either that even though

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all of these movies, whether theywere SNL or not, you know,
even though they all have people whowere just at that especially at that point,
known more for their appearances on theshow than they were, you know,
any films or Tellivision show, especiallyas a star. But all of
these films it felt like in Idon't want to say style, but you

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know, the way that they look, the way that they play, like
you could watch these all in amarathon and think that they're all the same
studio, that they're all the samethe director maybe like all of them have
this the same uniform look that justit's like they were trying to capitalize on
the fact that they have these SNLstars by making it look like the movies

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that SNL had put out, likea Wayne's World, you know, this,
like Wayne's World, which was Ithink the most recent kind of SNL
breakthrough into into film before this,maybe before Tommy Boy, if you want
to put it up there. Thething is that Tommy Boy had a start
a Coneheads Okay, the second worstthing that John land has ever did?

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What? Oh boy? Oh waitwait wait, John Landis didn't do cone
Hits. He didn't. Hey,no, that was Oh my god?
What was his name? Hold on? I have it here, I can
pull it up. Uh Baron?Yeah, Steve Barren, who also did

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the teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie.Why did I think that John Landis did
tone Heads? Oh? Because hedid another movie around that time. Uh
the I think it was called TheThe Idiots or the the Morons or something.
Let's see John land Is, whatwas it? This is all standing

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by the way. What what amI thinking of? Oh? The Stupids?
Yeah, he did the stupid TomArnold? Yes, okay, yes,
oh Tom Arnold? Wow what Ineed to see that movie for sure?
Oh do you? Yeah? Absolutely, you missed this show, didn't

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you? Folks? Oh god,oh boy? Are you going to get
this? This? This actually makesthe cut level of research. Oh yes,
But anyways, we will continue hereas if that did not happen.
I suppose, God, if weeven can, I don't even know where

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to pick up here. Here's thequestion, and we're not doing the good
bend the ugly, because honestly,I don't even know how to break up
this movie in that way. Basically, this movie is a series of vignettes.
It's loosely connected through this vague plotline that Chris Farley is the ne'er

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do well, dim witted brother ofa politician running to be governor of Washington
State. And there's a plot bythe other candidate to get Chris Farley in
trouble, basically to scandalize this guy'scampaign. And this is this is a

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time capsule movie in so many ways. Right, you have Chris Farley and
David Spade, but this is inWashington State during the nineties, so you
do get flavors of the grunge scenehappening. Then I think that's another reason
why I go easy on this movie, because, especially at that time,
that was that was my jam.And then this is playing off of this,

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this uh, this archetype of thepoliticians dumb relative like they bring it
up in this movie. Yeah,I think the tagline for this was that
Chris Farley was can I even rememberall these all these people. Jimmy Carter

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had a had a kind of infamousbrother who was always making headlines with his
with his antics. I think atthis time George W. Bush might have
been considered the the black sheep ofthat family. Of course, I don't
know if they name drop him here, but that's you know what I mean.
Yeah, this isn't quite the sametoo, But this was also kind

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of a the time that SNL wasmaking fun of Rudy Giuliani's son, who
would like make a ton of noiseand like be a disturbance at press conferences
in New York. And so thiswas this This was a big time of
like, this is when the politicalcartoons of like this the sixties, seventies,
and eighties really started turning into likemore actual like video parodies. Like

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SNL was doing a lot of politicalstuff around this time. There were whole
television shows created around the premise oflike making fun of politicians, and uh,
it was this whole era of justlike, yeah, we don't trust
these people now, but we thinkit's really funny that it's not just that
we don't trust these people. Wethink they're buffoonish, Like there was a
really low level of respect for thepolitical class, but it wasn't the flavor

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of it today, which is likeconspiratorial, right, And like, you
know, nobody was accusing like likeSNL was not going out there accusing Ronald
Reagan of being a pedi file ordrinking the blood of children. It was
just like, hey, this guy, he seems really stupid, and Bill
Clinton like, oh, he reallyhas a thing for fast food. You

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know, it's kind of like,looking back, it feels very very naive
in a sort of precious way.But to put it in modern terms,
Okay, Chris Farley is playing HunterBiden, right, Holy shit, Yeah,
it's playing Hunter Biden. And youknow you got Marjorie Taylor Green and
the rest of the Freedom Caucus outto you. Just call him Jeb Bush

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if you really wanted to Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush was like he was supposed
to be the he was supposed tobe the heir apparent. Oh I know
he was. But now think ofwhat everybody knows Jeb Bush as. Now
that's what that's kind of what Farleyis in this. If if Farley's character
ever got involved in politics, hewould probably be what people think of Jeb

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Bush as today. I think,honestly, this Chris Farley is kind of
playing and I hate to compare aman that I love to a man that
I hate, but I feel likethis kind of harmless, lovable dolt that
he's playing is the image that peoplehad of George W. Bush before Iraq.
I think so, no, Ido. I think that there's a

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lot of parallels. You know,he mixes up things that he says a
lot, he gets himself into alot of dumb situations. I think that
is I mean, that was assomebody. I think you can remember this.
I mean even though we were kidsback then, you know, even
after everything happened and the war started, that was like the big joke,

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you know. I remember that constantlyanytime George W. Bush came up,
you know, then you would starthearing things like strategicy or you know,
things like that. And by theway, at this time, Chris Farley
was playing Nuke Gingrich. So yes, the crowd who laments at how Snel
got political after Trump, I meanthere was everybody was fair game and obviously

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it tended to skew liberal. I'msure, although there's a lot of media
does. I think as far aslike as far as like movies and uh
and television shows like Hollywood, sideof media does tend to lean a little
bit more that way. I don'twant people this movie does not have enough
substance to be political. There's notactual a political message agenda, so strange.

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It's like the only thing that they'retrying to get across that that could
be considered like a political message isthe fact that there is a the villain
of the movie is a crooked politician. Other than that, there is no
There doesn't feel like there's any sides. I don't even think they mentioned political
parties in this. I don't thinkit even comes up one time. I
mean, this definitely feels like aproduct of the Clinton era. Yes,

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and I think Clinton himself had likea half brother who served this as this
kind of blacks sheet figure. Ithink, yes, he had Roger Clinton,
who was an actor in b moviesaround this time. Roger Linton was
in Pumpkinhead two, which is thebest thing that any Clinton has done.

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Unfortunately, Yeah, you want togo there, No, no, no,
no, we don't want to talkabout is running as the governor of
Arkansas. Either we just want totalk about this movie, and we're going
to talk about this movie by gettinginto a I want to. I want
to start us off with like talkingabout something of the movie, because even
though this movie's premise is kind ofloose, Okay, all right, that's

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fine. No, let me startoff by telling you the things I remember
about this movie. Okay, theonly things that actually made like a psychic
impression upon me in which I couldrecall the specifics about this movie. There's
a scene where Chris Farley and DavidSpade are attacked by a bat. Yes,

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Gary Busey basically plays himself. GaryBusey does play himself. He's he's
becoming more and more like his characterin this movie. Every year that passes,
I think I r l. GaryBusey has surpassed at this point.
Yes, I think he. Ithink he masturbated in a park recently.
That's where Gary Busey's at. Andyou know what, Gary Busey is so

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insane that there was this deep fakeclip of him going around like last sometime
last year, and I want itwas him like talking about how much he
loves buttered sausage. Uh, AndI believed it was real, because it's
absolutely some some just wild ship thathe would say. And every year I
would not be surprised if any headlinecame out if it said that he was

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he was, you know, inthe jungles of Vietnam, swinging from trees.
I'd be like, yeah, itsounds like Gary Busey. And here's
the thing about Gary Busey, Likehe was not Gary Busey yet. I
don't think he was that Gary Buseywe know in Love of Today until like
The Apprentice, he started doing TheApprentice. I think it well, it
all started, right because didn't heget in like a motorcycle accident motorcycle accident

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in the late eighties. But Idon't know if people started extracting the idea
that he was a bizarre person inreal life he had like his screen persona
right for sure, it feels likehis his from that point forward. It
felt like every couple of years hewould get a little stranger and you'd see
more about him, and you couldfind more articles about him, and like,

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if you go through his Wikipedia,you can kind of see that when
it start reading about his life andlike you can kind of slowly see his
like descent into madness, which youknow what, like if the dude's happy,
good for him. I don't knowabout the whole you know what he
does in Parks thing, but youknow, like he's like he was on
in Practical Jokers a couple of yearsago and like played up his craziness and

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stuff. So like, you know, yeah, there's a great question to
be asked about how much he isin on the joke of his reputation.
I don't know, but at thispoint he's still consistently turning in like very
entertaining performance. I think he's themost entertaining part of this movie. Oh

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it's close, man. It allgoes back to Farley for me though,
Like I even in roles like thisand even in Dirty Work, you know,
with with with uh Norm MacDonald,it's like, I don't like that
movie at all. That's Norman Artieand I'm not a fan of it.
And there's some funny parts, don'tget me wrong, But it's like Farley

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in that even shines through. Ithink he does in this movie. In
no, you know, I'm nottrying to throw any puns out here,
but he shine. He's No,I'm not even gonna say it, say
no, no, no, no, because I know I'm gonna misspeak.
He do that to me? Okay, he Okay. Here's here's the thing

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about Chris Farley in this movie.I do think that something you said earlier
I really want to bring if Icould, because you talked about this sort
of being like a highlight reel,you know where it's like a series of
skits with a very loose plot aroundit, which, by the way,
like the premise that they do havethe idea of this movie. I do

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like the idea of a movie withthat premise. It's very basic, it
feels very you know, of thetime. I guess you really wouldn't see
a movie like this today. ButI like the idea of the premise on
its base. But I do thinkthat even though Farley is able to shine
through. Though this is gonna soundso strange to say, but Farley shines

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in all these like highlight scenes,but they bring down the quality of the
movie for me well, because they'renot scenes that exist to tell a story.
Right. He does not really playa character that goes through an arc.
And when I talk about this,I don't want to make it sound

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like I'm holding this movie to somesome some standard of like that. What
I'm judging it on is the isthe curve that was set by movies like
Tommy Boy. Right, like TommyBoy not not a contender for Best Picture,

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It is not h it does notrank among the most prestigious of you
know, American film. But itnot only is a funny movie, it's
a movie with heart because it's centeredon a really likable but but endearingly flawed

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character played by Chris Farley. LikeI don't think he's just playing himself.
I think he's playing to his strengths. But but you know, scenes of
him, you know, making thesethese phone calls, uh, and accidentally
telling this dirty joke to a littlegirl, and then to him getting attacked
by a bat for some reason,and then all of his little banter with
David Spate. It's all fine,it's all serviceable, and if you're here

(34:01):
for Chris Farley, you're gonna you'regonna get the greatest hits. But it
almost feels like they're taking breaks fromthe story in order to get to these
punchlines. I wouldn't even say takingbreaks from the story. The story is
taking breaks from the highlight reel sceneslike that. So like the big one

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for me, and it's one that'smemed on a lot. It's it's a
scene where Chris Farley falls down thebiggest and longest hill in the world.
I mean, it's just it goeson for minutes, absolutely hilarious to me.
I love that stuff it does.It feels like a family guy joke
and I love that kind of stuff, you know, like if it's done
right, it gets funny. Ithink it's done well. I think there

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are good parts of it, Likeit's the fact that it has like segments
of him falling down this thing isfunny to me. But this is this
kind of goes back to one ofmy issues with this movie, which is
that I've never seen a movie endearme more to star while also hurting its
own value. And it really feltlike that was the case in this movie.
I felt like every time I sawChris Farley on screen, I was

(35:07):
reminded of how much I love him, how much he was, how much
I was enjoying watching him. Butwhen it came time for me to rate
the movie, I had to countsome of these scenes against the movie.
But aren't you also feeling that ChrisFarley deserved better than this movie. Well,
Chris Farley deserved better than everything hedid besides Tommy Boy. In my
opinion when it comes to his starring, his starring roles, and it wasn't

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much. I know that, butlike the fact that Tommy Boy showed us
something very important about Chris, andit was that he's not just a fall
down, funny haha guy. Thathe has acting chops, real acting chops.
You can believe the words that he'ssaying. And even though he had
room for improvement, I think wecould all agree if you're trying to judge

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his performance critically, there are partsthat he could improve on. He showed
that he had so much he couldportray so much heart from a script that
was decently written. I think TommyBoy's a decently written script outside of the
comedy stuff. I think that thestory's really good. But Chris makes that
movie and I don't think he It'sa classic vehicle and it's something that we

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don't really have. Like I doget nostalgic about this movie because not only
does it star an actor who passedaway, but it belongs to a type
of movie that we don't have anymore, and it's a weird thing to be
nostalgic about. But the star vehicle, Like, people talk about the fact
that we don't have any stars left, and I think the marker for that

(36:37):
is that we don't have movies thatexist as a showcase for stars talents.
Even Tom Cruise, I wouldn't calltop Gun Maverick a star vehicle. I
think he helms a vehicle for theextravaganza of special effects. I would say
that maybe his Mission Impossible, likethe more recent Mission Impossible movies, are
probably star vehicles for him. Iwould not agree with that. I feel

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like he almost gets a lot inthe extravagance of that whole operation. I
would agree with you. He didn'tget all the credit for them, I
think. But I won't even getinto all that. Here's what I want
to say, though, I candefinitely in terms of the comedy world,
Yes, like I remember the Doyou watch Modern SNL at all? Yeah?

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I catch mostly clips. I don'tusually do those show. Do you
know the Police Don't Destroy Trio?Oh? I love those guys. Yeah,
they're great. They had a moviethat came out on Peacock a few
months ago, and it I didn'twatch it because it didn't look like particularly
remarkable, But I almost got thiswarm feeling from just watching a trailer because

(37:43):
it was a vehicle for people thatI liked, that gave them an excuse
to be funny, you know,in a feature film format. Yeah,
in the simplest way, in thesimplest terms, and that's all it needs
sometimes, And that's why, Like, I know, these SNL movies are
clowned on a lot, but Ialmost them in a way because you know,
even though some of them are reallybad and I won't watch them again,

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the ones that did hit, theyreally hit, and it just reminds
me of like, how if theywere careful. I don't think they have
any characters nowadays that would really dowell in a full movie setting. I
think it's really really difficult to takea character from a from a at most
like ten minute sketch that's like atthe very most, and make them into

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like Wayne's world. I think isthe exception, it's certainly not the rule,
But I don't know. Look atThe Blues Brothers. The Blues Brothers
conceptually was not even a sketch.It was just a musical performance from But
I think that's why it works inacroid. I think that's why it works
because you have two performers, oneof which is like he was gonna be
he was gonna take the world bystorm. If if, if, you

(38:49):
know, he would have still beenwith us. And you have another actor
who I know you're not the biggestfan of mister Ackroyd, but don't make
it sound like a hate act.No, you're just not the guess,
you're not as big as supporters runningfor president. I just think it's you
know, he's you know, aftera while, it started to become diminishing
returns for mister Ackroyd. That's allas you, as you so eloquently put

(39:15):
it. While we were talking abouthis film Nothing But Trouble, which was
a directing and starring, well kindof starring co starring role for Dan Aykroyd.
Go check that episode out. You'llbe one of ten people who watched
that one. But but no,I mean, I'm with you, though
I think that this movie does representIt's not we're not quite at the end

(39:38):
of the era when we get toa movie like this, but we're getting
towards the end of it. Ifeel like once we got to like the
two thousands, like the end ofthe two thousands, which is just the
next decade after this movie came outjust four years after. That's when the
decade begins. And we didn't geta whole lot after the two thousand.

(40:00):
I don't think. I mean,I can't think of many. That's why
I'm hoping that the Daily Wire cansave comedy from the woke mop did you?
I know I bring this stuff uptoo much, and I'm guessing a
lot of our our viewers aren't interestedin this. But I just have to
ask you. Have you heard aboutthe Daily Wires comedy movie Lady Bollers?

(40:22):
Mm? Is that the one thatwas directed by That's not the one that
was directed by Shapiro, was it? No? No, it was directed
by the CEO, a guy namedJeremy Boring. That's the greatest that's the
greatest, worst name I've ever heard. No, I have not heard of

(40:45):
this. I've heard about it.No, can I tell you a little
bit about it? Uh? Yeah, I'd be interested to see if this
makes the cut. But yeah,I'm I'm all for it. What I
think the thing is why I bringthis up, It's because the Daily Wire
said that they were trying to bringback this type of comedy movie, the

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politically incorrect, dudes just being dudes, bantery, silly, Shenanigan driven type
of comedy movie. So they're tryingto bring back the type of movies that
you know, you would have seenChris Farley and company starin. So the

(41:27):
movie Ladyballers is about a washed upteam of basketball players who pretend to be
transgender women so they can join thewomen's division and start dominating there, right,
And obviously it's them turning this wholetalking point of transgender women in sports
and turning that into a comedy intoits own feature length movie. It's like

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the same as taking an SNL sketch, something that's only good for five minutes,
and turning that to a feature film. You run into the same problem.
Okay, you talk you're taking atalking point that your audience is going
to eat up in a in ayou know Ben Shapiro clip, you know
Ben Shapiro destroys some college student,and your audience will eat that up.

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But even the most transphobic person can'tdeny that that does not sustain an entire
feature film. Just like how somethinglike Cone Heads doesn't sustain a feature film,
well, you know, I don't. I want to make sure I

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elaborate on this after I say it, but hearing that really frustrates me.
Hearing and it's not for any reason. Like look, I think anytime you
make a movie, how do Iput this your intention? Your intention should
never be to push anything. Inmy mind, I think the greatest thing

(42:55):
about movies and the way that they'veevolved over time is that none of it
was forced. You can't force peopleto follow a certain trend. You can't
force people to do anything. It'sjust gonna happen. When Star Wars came
out back in the seventies, right, Star Wars came out, and there
weren't movies before Star Wars that peoplewere demanding to see more of. But

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when Star Wars came out, youknow, everybody started demanding movies like Star
Wars. And then time started changing. More sci fi movies started to hit
the theaters and they started to getbigger, and then another movie came along,
and then another movie came along,and that's how that's how film evolves.
A movie comes out and inspires peopleto do similar things, whether it's
in spirit or whether it's in conceptor whatever. And I think it's just

(43:42):
important for people in the film industryto remember, no matter what side they
fall on, whether it's what theythink politically, what they think socially,
what they think anything, if youjust make a movie with the intention of
making a good movie or an enjoyablemovie for people, maybe you'll make an
impact, maybe you won't, butyou're no different than everybody else that's done

(44:05):
it before you. And the bigdifference between these movies that come out now
that get everybody talking, in myopinion, in the wrong way, is
that the people before Yeah, maybein their movie they might have been trying
to say something. Maybe in theirmovie they may have been delivering a message,
but you know what they were alsodoing making a good movie, and
they were focusing on just doing thething that they wanted to do and not

(44:27):
focusing on any outside factors. Andthen that film transcended itself and it became
something that inspired people who came afterit, And so I just wish that
people would remember those things and inthinking, like, you don't have to
exclude these topics or real world topicsfrom your movie. I just rewatched Black
Christmas during the holiday season and itshot up for me. I think it's

(44:50):
the original Black Christmas. Ok yes, And that's a movie that that has
some things to say here and there, that's got a couple of things in
there that are real life issues andreal life things that come up. But
you know what it also did.It tried to make a really cool movie
and it happened to inspire one ofthe most popular horror films of all time
in Halloween, in a movie thattranscended itself and grew into a a franchise

(45:13):
that many people don't even think shouldhave been a franchise, but guess what,
it was that good and that's howmovies should progress. Now. Outside
of that, this movie, Ido think that Black Sheep is a part
of a I guess sort of likecollection of films that do kind of fall
into this like absurdist sort of humorof the nineties. But it worked so

(45:37):
well because or it didn't work verywell obviously, but that style of humor
worked so well because of when itcame out. And I think when you
make an authentic movie that fits thatbill, people take to it. But
when you make a movie that feelsinauthentic, which I do think that Black
Sheep does feel inauthentic. It feelslike a movie that was trying to capitalize
off of the success of Tommy Boy. I think feels like a film that

(46:00):
is trying to almost act as anacting real for Chris Farley and David Spade
for for the things that they thatthat the studio think they did well and
Tommy Boy, right, and it'sit's it's difficult to watch in that way.
By the way, I'm glad youtouched on something. So when we

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talk about the diminishing, diminishing returnsfrom this, from from Tommy Boy to
this, right, we need totalk about the other half of the equation,
right, because it's Chris Farley andDavid Spade, And I think he's
actually the thing that's noticeably off aboutthis project. Right from Tommy Boy to

(46:45):
this. You see that they thatthere wasn't the same kind of chemistry,
There wasn't the same people, didn'tthat the people involved in this didn't seem
to understand what made those guys suchgreat comedy duo. Right, It's not
just that that Chris Farley is agoofball and David Spade is smarming and uptight,

(47:07):
which both those things are true,But in Tommy Boy, those characters
have a real history and a thisback and forth that really compels them both
his characters, and one of thebest scenes of Tommy Boy, it's not
just them annoying each other, gettingon each other's nerves. What about the

(47:27):
scene when the Carpenters comes on theradio and neither of them can admit that
they like the song, so theyjust they keep saying, Oh, I
mean, I don't even care ifyou want to change it, go right
ahead. No, I mean Idon't care, and then cuts hard cuts
to them crying, singing along tothe lyrics of Karen Carpenter. That's where

(47:52):
the humanity, that's where the magichappens to me, right, because that's
a really sweet moment. Nothing likethat in Black Sheep. The thing that
gets me too is like and andpeople might clown on me for this.
I don't know. I think DavidSpade could have been more than he was.

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I think one of the issues islike people behind the behind movies,
and maybe it's his fault, youknow, Maybe I don't know. Maybe
maybe Tommy Boy was a fluke.But I feel like people don't understand the
things that he does well, youknow, like that that scene is a
good one. But another scene thatI think of is when he talks when
he's he's just going at Chris Farley'scharacter for how he you know, treated

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his father and and about how hetook advantage and he took him for granted,
and about how you know, henever had a father and and that
was his father figure and you know, all he wanted to do was impress
him and all that stuff like thatwas a good scene. And I feel
like when David Spade is funny inin Tommy Boy, there's a very specific

(49:00):
reason he's being funny. It's becausehe's allowed to be funny. The way
that David Spade is comfortable being funny, and when you see him in interviews,
it's funny how somebody in interviews canbe more likable and funny than any
film role that they've been in becausethey're doing what they're comfortable doing when it
comes to their comedy. And Idon't think there are a lot of movies

(49:21):
showcasing that. For David Spade,To be completely honest with you, this
one included. David Spade is guythat is very easy to dismiss I know
that because I didn't take him seriouslyfor a pretty long time. I grew
up in the era of grown ups. That was David Spade that I knew,
Yeah, Joe Dirt, and hewas more famous, I think for

(49:43):
kind of going on talk shows andkind of like reminiscing about the past or
being a plus one to some biggercomic. In fact, you know,
he goes from being Chris farley sidekickto basically Adam Sandler's sidekick. I mean
that's a guy with like five sidekicks. Yeah, he's the Superman too.
Betier list of Justice League comedians.Yeah, that's another thing that bugs me

(50:05):
with with one comic specifically in thatgroup. But you're right, it's just
it's he did. He was.He played second fiddle to Chris Farley,
which look, man, that's like, you know, it's not always bad
to be a sidekick, you know. Scottie Pippen was the sidekick to Michael
Jordan and he still won six championships. Well, Scottie Pippen was also the
least paid member of the Chicago Bulls. He was, he was, and

(50:29):
when he tried to get paid,they sent him to Houston. And then
you know that's that's that is whatit is. Uh. But either way,
Scottie Pippen goes down as one ofthe fifty greatest players of all time
according to NBA analysts and according tothe recent list that they've made and the
lists that have come out since youknow, the twenty tens. You know,

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after he had been retired for alittle bit. He didn't retire to
like five. But I don't thinkDavid Spade was ever gonna be the pip
in to Farley's Jordan. Nor doI think he is the pip in to
Adam Sandler's Jordan. I think hewas. He was, he was He
could have made a very good careeroff of being the sidekick to Chris Farley.

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I do think that he genuinely washurt, not just emotionally because it
was his friend, but I thinkhis career was hurt by the passing of
Chris Farley because I think if Farleycould have had that turnaround, who's to
say you wouldn't have taken Spade withhim. Well, the thing is that
as we compare Chris Farley to JohnBelushi, I think there's a comparison between

(51:35):
David Spade and Dan Aykroyd. Twoguys who were extremely close with with their
their their partners, right. Theywere more than just you know, collaborators.
They were truly like buddies in arm, friends in arms in the comedy
world. And I think it wasa devastating lost both of them personally,

(52:00):
and I think it also must haveforced them to rethink their career. I
think the thing about David Spade thata lot of people don't know is I
think he's more comfortable as a standup comic. I think he's more comfortable
in that kind of environment. I'mnot saying he doesn't have talent as an
actor, but when I see himon roasts like doing like Comedy Central Roads,

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or when I see like old standup clips that he used to do
after you know, after the runwith Chris Farley came to an end,
That's where I see him as beingmore comfortable because I think he's a witty
guy. I think he has agreat sense of delivery in that context.
But for this role, he couldn'tplug into it the way that Chris Farley

(52:44):
could. Chris Farley could take avery underdeveloped character and bring him to life,
and David Spade couldn't do the same, not for his material, and
to be fair, his characters,it's a really nothing character. I mean,
he is attacked on addition to thiswhole story. You could write him

(53:05):
out of the movie pretty easily,I would argue, I think you could.
And I think one thing to thinkof when you're when you're discussing that
is that this movie didn't know everythingthat Chris Farley did well, but it
knew some of what he did well, and and some of that was still
there. And of course he's gonnanail that because he's Chris Farley. You
know, he's really good at thethings that he does, and he's very

(53:25):
good at a lot of things.I do think that this movie was almost
it felt like it was written.I don't I don't want to say maliciously
to discredit David Spade, but itreally did feel like just gross negligence,
you know, of just like,hey, we watched Tommy Boy and we
love you guys together, so we'regonna put you in another movie together,

(53:45):
and we're gonna make it a funnyfall down haha, Chris Farley movie.
And that's all he's gonna do,is Matt Foley's way around the set and
you know, uh, you knowthat one scene from Tommy Boy where this,
you know that other scene from TommyBoy were this, We're gonna do
that but this way, and youcan't. You can't really do it that

(54:06):
way. And I think David Spadees'scharacter was missing the heart that that Tommy
Boy had. I don't think thismovie is heartless by any means. I
think that the bits of story thatwe do get, you know, seeing
his brother the politician defend Chris Farley'scharacter and always stands by him, always
sticks by him no matter what hedoes to his his career, I think
there is some heart there. Theactual character of the of the candidate,

(54:30):
of Chris Farley's brother. He's actuallyreally underrated as we talk about this movie,
and he serves a very important function. Not only is he the straight
man, I feel like he's almostthe heart. It's his I agree,
And it's a bit of a shameto me that the relationship isn't more on
their The story isn't really centered ontheir relationship as much. You know,

(54:54):
they feel very distant as characters.But I think the movie definitely tuck to
my heart, certainly most when itplayed directly off of their relationship and that
actor. It's really ironic that actorwho plays the political candidate he goes on
to play he goes on to playthe vice president of the West Wing show.
Yes he does. Yeah, AndI do want to say one thing.

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I think it's because they're wasting sometime trying to give this movie more
heart by making Chris Farley's best frienda child and focusing on that relationship more
like they don't. It's not thatthey don't focus on the relationship between brother
and brother, they just do itin a way that's very disconnected from each
other. You know, they'll they'llhave a scene where they talk and something

(55:37):
happens, and then you know,the brother is like, yeah, like,
you know, you really got tostop doing this kind of mess and
stuff for me. But I stilllove you. You're my brother. You
know, I wouldn't have it anyother way with you, you know,
by my side. And then afterthat, it's like, here's this evil
henchman that's on the good guy's sidetrying to convince this politician that his brother

(55:58):
is no good and then here arethe mean politicians on the other side,
and here's Chris Farley on one side, you know, just still doing ridiculous
shit and getting himself into trouble.And it's like, I do wish that
there were more scenes of Chris Farleybeing introspective. I think we get that
for such a short period of time, and we get we get several moments
of that in Tommy Boy, whichI think helps him, you know,

(56:19):
he gets he almost changes his waysin Waves, right, he kind of
discovers who he should be and howhe should carry himself moving forward and Waves
in Tommy Boy. In this it'sjust like there's one scene where he realizes
he has a complete and total fuckup and that he needs to be better,
but they don't even play that intoa story arc because then he ends
up saving the day by being afuck up. He doesn't change anything.

(56:40):
He's still the same fucking idiot.He just gets lucky. And even though
I think it's endearing that he getslucky and that it happens that way,
he still is doing it in away that's that's it's the same thing he's
done since the beginning of the movie. It just works for am I wrong
and a lot of no, alot of movies fall victim to that too,

(57:04):
and again it rests on the shouldersof Chris Farley, like I I'm
happy for his character because I'm happyfor Chris Farley. I want to see
that man happy, right, Andit's a it's a cheat code, it's
it's shorthand. But that that climax. I think that's definitely. When my
wife just turned on this movie,she was not impressed. But uh,

(57:28):
when when Gary Goosey really comes intothe picture and and hijacks the movie as
as he does, Yeah, Ithink I I actually appreciated it because the
only thing the movie I had goingfor it was this sense of wacky's aniness
that Chris Farley really could embrace andhe could really play off of, like

(57:52):
that almost became his scene partner.Just the just the silliness of the of
this this world, of the logic. So I actually appreciated the left turn
it took. But it took ahuge left turn, and it almost gives
up on the pretense that this isa Chris Farley David Spade movie. Yeah,

(58:19):
it turns into a Gary Busey solomovie. I know. I do
really like I like aspects of thisis this is what And I feel terribly
for talking so negative about this movieso far, because everything that I said
and that's negative, I do havepositives to say about, you know that,
like, oh yeah, they're notusing Farley to his strengths. And

(58:39):
it's just like, you know,Fatty falls down, people laugh. You
know, That's what he used tosay about his comedy style and how you
know, when he was being reallydown on himself. But he happens to
be very good at that, andhe knew he was good at that,
and that's why he would, youknow, get down on himself sometimes about
it. And this movie does itwell. The scenes that are these highlight

(58:59):
scenes that we're talking about are veryfunny, most of them. And and
I do think that that ending sequenceprobably the most wild shit they probably could
have thought of. I think Icouldn't really believe what I was watching during
certain parts of that scene. Butit still tried to have this you know,

(59:21):
story significance in this heart and itwas still funny. So it's like,
I have bad things to say aboutthis movie, but there are some
positive sprinkled in there about it too. The thing is, this is not
a movie for analysis. This isa movie just to be watched this is
a movie to be enjoyed. It'slike, it's like imagine in biting a
friend over then after he leaves,you like kind of go through your notes

(59:45):
about how the evening went and breakingdown like, oh, did did that
joke you make? Did that reallyland? Oh? I feel like our
I feel like this night really reliedtoo much on like alcohol. I think,
you know, breaking it down almostclinically, you could do that.
You could like kind of grade yourfriend and the next time he shows up

(01:00:07):
you can give him like a portcard brought Walmart brand paper towels instead of
bounty but against them. This moviehas It has a charm. It has
a time capsule charm. It representsa movie that existed for a certain period

(01:00:28):
of time. It was at thecrossroads of a lot of trends that I'm
personally fond of, and it itprovided room for one of the great comedians
of the last twenty five years.It gave Chris Farley a sandbox basically,
And I don't think he was degradedby this. I know he was personally

(01:00:49):
very disappointed by this movie, notas much as Beverly Hill's Ninja, but
he definitely felt like it was astep back, and I'm sure that was
a very hard thing for him totake. But I don't think watching this
feel sorry for him. I didn'thave that reaction. I guess I felt
I felt like I had missed theopportunity to make a new Chris Farley fan
out of my wife. Maybe itwasn't the best introduction to him. This

(01:01:12):
is the perfect way to describe thismovie, right. It's not gonna turn
you into a Chris Farley fan,but it is going to be of service
to Chris Farley fans, and it'sYeah, it's definitely not going to turn
you off of Chris Farley either,or at least if you're already a fan,
it's not going to like deter youfrom continuing your fandom of chrisher No,
I don't think so. I mean, my wife is glad that he's

(01:01:32):
dead, but I think she couldbe an anomaly. I'm so sorry,
honey, I'm sorry, You're ohgod. No, But like even even
almost Heroes, like I think AlmostHeroes is the first movie that I really
do feel bad for Chris Beverly Hills, Ninja. No, honestly, I
I'm gonna save my opinions on BeverlyHills Ninja because I have a feeling it

(01:01:57):
might come up this season, butno, I almost Heroes is really the
only movie where I see him inthat I do feel bad for him.
I feel like he wasn't being utilizedto the best of his ability, and
and I feel like he was verymuch like a John Candy, you know
when John Candy when you'd be interviewedafter you know, he was interviewed after
one of his movies that failed criticallyand commercially, and he was asked if

(01:02:22):
he takes it, if he ifhe if it hurts him, and he's
like, of course, you know, this is that it's my job to,
you know, not only provide entertainmentfor people, but to help the
people making the movie, you know, make sure they can feed their families
and make sure they can do allthis. And that's on you. And
when you fail, you know thatthat doesn't feel good. And Chris Farley
all of his friends after the fact, which is unfortunate, we couldn't really

(01:02:43):
hear it from him, and wenever would have. I don't think he
wasn't really one of those guys togo on a talk show and open up.
He was there everything was performance forChris righting everything it was all the
Chris Farley Show. That's the nameof his auto autobiography. I wish his
his oral history biography, which Irecommend any fans of his, Yes,

(01:03:05):
because and that's kind of the plightof the comedian as we understand it looking
back, I think I think peopleare trying to change that. I think
a guy like Pete Davidson, who'snot funny all the time, he takes
stops to not be funny, andobviously, you know that turns a lot
of people off. You know,they compare him to the comedians of the
past, like because Farley would notmake a tweet about contemplating suicide, Like

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he wouldn't do that right. Well, at the same time, like Pete
Davidson, even though he doesn't looklike it, he seems to be a
very stable person who's doing well forhimself. I think there's totally a place
for a comedian to publicly stop performingfor us and to invite a conversation about

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mental health, about substance abuse struggles. Like I'm not saying if Chris Farley
had had really had a public discussionabout those problems, that he would still
be here, who knows. ButI also don't think it's fair for Pete
Davidson or other comedians of his generation. We shouldn't hold him to those standards

(01:04:11):
because it was not a safe environmentfor performers like SNL like It's Heyday was
like a toxic work environment. Ialso think it's important to say too that,
like, you know, comedians arenot quite on the level of like
professional football players or professional wrestlers oflike you know, just dying at alarming

(01:04:33):
rates. But I do think thateven though, like I think what we've
had so far is alarming, Ithink it it's sad when a comedian,
you know, spends their whole lifemaking us laugh. I think about the
story of this This former child actorwas telling about working with Robin Williams when
they were a kid, and theyyou know, he was he was out

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in front of everybody, and hewas doing his bit, and he was
going everywhere, and he was goingcrazy and everything. And the he went
back to his trailer and this childactor went back to spend some time with
him, and when she or whenI don't remember if it was a he
or she, but when they walkedin there, he was sobbing his eyes
out, and uh, you know, it's just to think of I would

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any I don't care who the comedianis. I don't care how funny they
are. I don't care how goodthey are at being the performer all the
time. If it helps anybody tojust speak about what's going on in their
lives or to talk about it,or if they feel like they're making an
impact and it makes them feel goodto do it, which is I think
what Pete Davidson does it for.I mean, I don't know the guy,
but it seems like he talks aboutthis to be relatable and and to

(01:05:41):
be fair to Pete Davidson as well, even if that's not something he's interested
in doing. It is a morerelatable thing now, you know, people
you know, are more open abouttalking about the things that are happening with
them. And even though I'm notgonna come on the show and I'm not
gonna, you know, tell everybodywhat my issues had been, you know,
if it if it came down toit and that was gonna help me,
you know, I'm not gonna.I'm not going to criticize anybody for
doing that. And obviously we don'tknow if that would have helped somebody like

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Chris Farley fighting the battles that hewas fighting, or you know, somebody
like Robin Williams or any of thecomedians that we've lost over the time.
But you know, I don't thinkI think both sides of it are valid
as long as it's helping the personbehind the persona. I also just think
that's the reason why a company likeThe Daily Wire, they're not going to

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create a comedy or really any pieceof entertainment that that fulfills that for audiences
the way that Chris Farley could,because I think it takes a certain amount
of introspection to really channel those personaldemons into something creative, and I don't

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think that The Daily Wire. Idon't think Ben Shapiro is a depth at
self criticism left let alone introspection,and not that this movie is taking a
stand for any of those issues.But you know, Chris Farley, that's
I think just as much his legacy, right is how we talk about what

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performers go through, particularly comedians,because even though they're not it's not like
what I think athletes go through theway that needs to be severely addressed because
of the physical and mental and emotionaland psychological beatings they go through. It's
it's still crazy that, Yeah,a guy who seemed to have such an

(01:07:36):
infectious charisma, sense of humor andlove for life that Chris Farley did,
you know, still fell victim tothings that everybody does. You don't have
to be a comedian devis substance abuseproblem or to have you know, have
issues with depression. I mean everybodywho was, Like if you watch documentaries
about Chris Farley, like I meaneven the song that I mentioned earlier from

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Adam Stanley, he talks about walkinginto an their office that they shared at
Saturday Night Live and Farley was cryingto a Casey in the Sunshine Band song
because he missed his dad so muchand he didn't get to see his father
ever. He didn't get to gohome, and he was always performing and
doing things and and keeping himself occupied. And you know, it's a story,
it's a tale as old as timewhen it comes to comedians. Is
that you know, even even youknow the just iconic imagery from from olden

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times is that you know, here'sthis gesture and behind the mask is a
is a crying face or a clownwith a you know, crying a crying
face behind him. It's like,you know, there's a tragedy to comedy,
and I think I think trying toforce any type of comedy will will
come across as that. I thinkthat's why I've had such a hard time
with comedy movies over the last saydecade, is because a lot of it

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does feel like it's emulating, ora lot of it does feel like it's
trying to force comedy. And it'sIt's why when a movie does come out
that makes me laugh, I reallytake to it and I really want to
talk about it and I want tolet people know they should go see it.
Like when I saw Good Boys quitea few years ago and I said,
Wow, this is this made melaugh very hard. I'm going to
tell people they should see this.And it's kind of sad that that's lost

(01:09:12):
on us. But I don't thinkit's something that will be lost forever.
I do think there are still moviesthat break through that are very funny.
I do still think that there isa place for you know, that sort
of comedy birth out of tragedy,and you know, maybe we'll get there
one day where more movies are likethat. This movie definitely doesn't have any
inspiration of that coming from anywhere.I like how we went on this whole

(01:09:35):
diet tribe about mental health and theway we need to address the and we'll
put some links in the in thein the description for for those things as
well. Yeah, we'll also includea link so you can watch Lady Ballers,
my favorite movie of last year.No, I was looking for an

(01:09:58):
excuse to become a Daily Wires subscriber, and thankfully, thankfully, they delivered,
and now I can. Now Ican give Ben Shapier my money with
no shame or guilt. I don'tknow why he comes up so often on
this podcast. I don't know,other than my timeline was infected with trailers
for that movie for the last threemonths. I'm lucky enough to have tricked
my algorithm across social media. Idon't see anything from either side. I

(01:10:20):
just I just live. Man.It'll something will break through every once in
a while, But only things thatI engage with are things that show up
now. So I'm lucky. Yeah, now that Chris Christie's dropped out,
you really have no reason to beinvested. Huh. No, I don't
Chris Christie, the Chris Farley ofthe GOP. No, that's a terrible
party. That's an awful thing tosay. Oh my god. Uh but

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no, you know, in allseriousness, Uh, I want to I
want to just say something positive aboutthis movie, because, like I said,
we have been beating it up.I do want to. Wait,
this has been more negative than Iwas expecting. Like I yes, I
because I've been basically defending it frommy wife, my vicious wife, and
I I realized that when I'm nothaving to defend it, right, It

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is a movie that I realize shouldhave been of a higher standard, I
think for for the mission that ithad, which was to give Chris Farley
a film career like he deserved one. I don't know why the movie was
only it was only written in lessthan a week. And you know that's

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not always the mark for a badmovie either. I mean, like John
Hughes was famous for being able towrite his scripts extremely quickly, and he's
made some of the you know youwere the first drafts quickly. Right.
The thing is the shooting script waswritten in a week, and that's that's

(01:11:57):
tough. But you know, Idon't want it to seem like this movie's
all bad. I think it isa tough one to defend as a whole.
I mean, I think it's oneof those movies that you just have
to tell people, like, look, do you like slapstick Chris Farley stuff?
Because if you do, you knowyou'll like this. And you know
it's got a little bit of hearthere and there. It's got Gary Busey.
This is exactly how I would describeit to somebody if they were like,

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hey, what do you think aboutBlack Sheep, I'd be like,
well, you know, Chris Farleyfalls down, it's pretty funny when he
does. Gary buse is in therebeing Gary Busey, and David Spade is
there, and you know, Ido think some of the stuff between Farley
and Spade does still work. Idon't want to pretend like they don't have
any chemistry. I think there isn't. I'm gonna say something negative, but

(01:12:43):
I'm going to follow it up bysaying something positive. I do think that
this movie has an awkwardness about it. I do think that some of the
lines of dialogue and the interactions betweenpeople are awkward. One of the ones
I highlighted was the there was ascene where there's this old couple and they're
in their car talking while Chris Farleyis stuck in their trunk. That's a
reoccurring theme in this movie, isthat Chris Farley gets stuck in things like

(01:13:03):
planes. Like planes at the endof the movie. See Tom Cruise.
You're not the first to do it. No you're not, suck it bitch.
Anyways, No, that was alittle too harsh. I actually don't.
I am a Tom Cruise defender whenit comes to his film career.
But you're just saying because you're ascientologist. Okay, I mean I do

(01:13:24):
get the Scientology channel on my televisionservice, so say what you will about
that. However, But like that, that scene is just the dialogue is
really awkward. I do think someof the interactions between Farley and Spade are
awkward, but I think that kindof comes from a place of neither of
them are really having the script playinto their strengths as actors or comedic actors.

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If you want to separate those out, I don't know why you would
get. I think they both haveThey're both in the same category. But
I do think that at the endof the day, they there is still
a chemist there. It does stillfeel special seeing them on screen together.
It still it still feels fun seeingthem on screen together. And I'm I'm

(01:14:06):
glad at least that they didn't replaceDavid's bade in this movie, because I
do think it would have heard it. I do think that their chemistry and
them being together, whether it's justa holdover from you know, Tommy Boy
for me, I don't know,but I think if they would have replaced
him with somebody else, especially someschmuck like Rob Schneider, we would have

(01:14:27):
never I don't I don't think thismovie would even be in a conversation of
at a two point nine, youknow, like it sits right now at
the time of filming, hopefully wegive it a bump. But is this
the only other time they made amovie together to my knowledge, yes,
at least like in a sense ofthem interacting on filming. They were definitely
planning on more collaborations, Like Ithink there was a script for a Matt

(01:14:48):
Foley movie. There's a couple otherprojects. I mean, just like dan
Aykroyd and John Blush, there wasalways go going to be a future for
these two. I mean, theyhad an irreplaceable chemistry and it's still I
mean, it's still apparent even throughthis movie. But at the same time,

(01:15:11):
when you look back at this andcompare it to the things that made
them the the stars that they were, like Tommy Boy, like those like
that, you know, golden eraof SNL they were a part of.
Yeah, it's worth noting that it'sit's autopilot. It's not a pilot version.

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That's I think what the awkwardness isis is them not going through the
motions like they didn't care, butbeing asked to carry something that was a
slap dash production. I think itwas uncarriable. And I think, and
I want to clarify to like whatyou were saying, because I know,

(01:15:53):
I believe I know what you weresaying is that the actors themselves don't It's
not that they are phoning it in. They're phoning it definitely not. They
are asked to do something in carryingthis movie and making it seem like it
has more heart than it does,making it seem like it has more story
and more all contexts and all thesethings than it does, and it doesn't
have that, And so you getthis awkwardness and there are lines that are

(01:16:15):
written that are meant to be funnythat just aren't, and and there's no
real way to deliver those ways.Basically, it's this was a job.
Right. When we talk about film, and especially when it comes to comedy,
we sentimentalize what must be the atmosphereand the temperament of that production.

(01:16:39):
Right, it's hanging out with yourfriends, it's goofing off, it's you
know, the best comedies will notmake it look like work. I think
this looked like a job from bothof them, a job they did as
professionals. But I don't get thatinfectious charm that that that paras social friendship

(01:17:00):
from from Tommy Boy. And let'sbe real, that's part of why this
movie is even eligible for the showto begin with. It's the biggest part
I think. I think if ifthis movie came first, I wonder if
it would have been looked upon morefavorably. I really wonder. If I

(01:17:21):
do great question, I don't thinkit would be eligible for this show.
At the very least, I thinkit'd be low threes three point one.
I think a three point one,because I think it's something that they'd be
like, this was the beginning ofthe Farley and Spade stuff. This was
this is where it started, Here'swhere it would have happen. This movie
would have people would have said,Chris Farley's movie career is kind of stumbling

(01:17:44):
out out of the gate, butwe'll give him time. Then Tommy Boy
would come out and people would saythis movie perfected what Black Sheep was trying
to do. Yes, And insteadof saying, wow, Farley was really
good in Tommy Boy. Let's seewhat he does next, and then being
like, oh, well that wasa fluke, I don't know if people
were saying was a fluke. Ithink. I mean, people knew enough
about his personal life. People knewthat he who was a guy fighting issues.

(01:18:11):
And it's like when you go throughproduction in the mental fortitude, the
focus. It doesn't just take talent. In fact, some people would argue
that talent is kind of low onthe list of things you need to execute
one of these things. It takesuh this kind of clarity about about who

(01:18:32):
you are and what you are hereto do. And I don't want God,
why why do our discussions get sopretentious? I feel like it's because
I run out of things to sayabout a movie like black sheet pretty quickly.
So I started talking about like thenature of the art form, and
like I start sounding like a likea like a motivational instructor, like,

(01:18:57):
oh, it takes takes more thantalent, man, it takes GISs,
it takes mental fortitude. I thenI start selling like like brain pills or
the college professor who just loves hissource material just a little too much,
you know when he starts teaching.It's just like you're really enjoying this,
all right? Yeah? Is thereanything else? Though? That's the thing.

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I really don't. I really don'tthink so. I mean, for
me, I'm ready to give afinal verdict, you know, I I
think I think it's about time.I think we've we've crossed into so many
different avenues about Farley's career and aboutfucking everything in between. So I think,
yeah, I think it's a goodtime to to deliver our final verdicts.

(01:19:42):
Who who do we want? Howdo we want to do this in
season two? Do we want to? We want the person who picked it
to go last? What do wewant to do here? This was your
pick, by the way, Iwant to, I want to This was
my picks, But it was Gabe'sturn. So yeah, so give them
that. It's my pick, myvertic. It's probably going to be surprising.
It's a little surprising to me.But after the intellectual debate that we

(01:20:08):
just had, and we've really examinedthis movie conceptually, we didn't break it
down seen by scene. To behonest, though, I think the way
to talk about this movie would beto just talk about it seen by scene,
because basically it's kind of a scoreboardmovie. By that, I mean,
you just have to weigh the jokesthat didn't work and the ones that

(01:20:30):
did work, and you know,count them up. I mean, the
amazing thing about comedy is it's notabout the quantity of jokes. To me,
it's it should work way other movieswork. It should be about the
emotions too. It should be aboutemotional Now, let me take a step

(01:20:50):
stuff from that. It should functionon the same levels that other types of
movies do. I should not justlike the actor who the character. I
should be invested enough in the characterto at least assess if they changed or
not. I should care enough aboutthe themes of the movie to be able
to have some kind of a youknow, some kind of an analysis of

(01:21:15):
it. But does this movie speakto its subject matter. I wouldn't say
so. It's shockingly apolitical given theclimate it came out and when that was
kind of when political humor was reallyin vogue. But I don't know if
Chris Farley would have been comfortable withthat. Yeah, I'm just going through
it, and I'm counting the jokesthat worked, and I would say the

(01:21:40):
ratio, it just doesn't skew inthe movie's favor the hits to missus ratio.
It doesn't have a good batting average. And with the movie that was
clearly a rush script that was justmeant to be a star vehicle for somebody
who's you know, career, reallyneeded a lot more Karen attention than it

(01:22:05):
would receive. Yeah, I'm gonnasay that it's actually pretty generous. A
two point nine. Uh, itdoes not deserve a three. It is
that bad. M My wife isgonna be very vindicated by the way,
well, you know, if you'renot dead before you know, for all

(01:22:27):
the uh wishing Chris Farley dead linesin there. Okay, that's interesting.
So all right, So I talkedabout this movie very negatively throughout this If
this is this might be one ofthe more negative episodes of the show,
and I hate to start season twooff that way, but I want people

(01:22:51):
to know that it didn't come froma place of like malice or anything like
that. Like I'm really just kindof like everybody else that watched this probably
at the time, I'm just kindof disappointed. You know. I love
Chris Farley so much. I thinkTommy Boy is actually one of my favorite
comedy films with all the time.It's in my top ten, maybe top

(01:23:14):
five, I haven't I haven't puttogether that list, but it's possible.
I don't think this movie is asdisappointing as critics made it seem to be
at the time. Especially, Ido think it's fair to point out that
if we were having this conversation innineteen ninety six, I would say it's
not that bad because people were puttingit on their worst of the year list.

(01:23:36):
That's not that's not cool, right, And I think there are a
lot of things to consider when youwatch this movie, and there are a
lot of ways that you could watchthis movie. You know, you could
watch it from a perspective that wenormally would on this show. And by
the way, like that can changeon this show. I don't want it
to make it seem like every everythingwe watch we're trying to be critical of

(01:23:59):
or anything like that. In fact, I think our show is kind of
the opposite of that. We maybe kind of reviewing these movies in a
sense, but we're here to defendthem. We're here to judge a movie
on its merits and give it creditfor the things it does well. And
I do think this movie has agood amount of things it does well.
I do think if you submitted thisas a if you took acting scenes from

(01:24:20):
Tommy Boy and Funny ha Ha fallDown scenes from this movie, you would
have the perfect acting real for ChrisFarley. I think if you if you
look at Gary Busey in this movie, I think you can have a lot
of fun with his character and thethings that he does and the craziness that
he brings to this. I thinkthere is a lot of heart when you
get down to the character Chris Farley'sbrother who's running for office, and his

(01:24:45):
unconditional love of his idiotic brother,who you know, through his persistence of
wanting to keep his brother around,ends up letting him help him in the
end, and and I think thereare a lot of things that you can
enjoy about this. I just thinkthat if you go into it like anybody
would By the way, I don'twant to make it sound like anybody wouldn't

(01:25:09):
do this or wouldn't be right todo this. But if you go into
this expecting an experience that is atall similar to the experience you had with
Tommy Boy, you're probably not gonnaget it. But if you, if
you do, try to have funwith this, there's fun to be had.
So I think for now, Ithink I'm gonna have to say that

(01:25:39):
I think two point nine is aright on the money. I didn't I
really wanted to say that I thoughtthis was not that bad and and parts
of it I think are not thatbad. The people who who who criticize
Farley's performance in this, I thinkI would I would certainly say are are
incorrect, at least in my mind. But I think the factor of even

(01:26:04):
when you don't compare this movie toTommy Boy, it's still disappointing, and
I can't overlook that with my finalverdict. So I will agree with my
co host and say that Black Sheepis that bad. I didn't want to
be here. Man, it wason my list, like I I.
If you wouldn't have covered this,I'd have brought this at some point.

(01:26:27):
So it's disappointing for us to bothbe on This is water World too,
That's what this you know what Ido. I do appreciate this movie for
for being not water World, youknow. And we just at the time
of making this, we just releaseda teaser that we're coming back for season
two, uh, and we madeit seem like we were gonna you know,

(01:26:50):
that the show is gonna be over, And we talked about how this
show is so much fun except forwater World. This is an episode where
we both landed on it's that bad, just like the water World episode.
But I would argue that this conversationwas more fun. I would argue that
this movie is a lot more funto watch. Given the choice between this
movie and water World, it wouldeasily be this movie. I mean,

(01:27:12):
given the choice between being water boardedor watching water World, I think I
would choose the former. So,you know, it just comes down to
your sensibilities. If you if you'venever seen Tommy Boy and you watch this,
maybe you'll land on the other sideof the fence, and I would
love to hear some defenses of thismovie too, you know, bring it
to the comments or message us.I don't care, do whatever. Send

(01:27:32):
us an email on our website,not that broached on the street, Approach
me on the street. Yeah,if you see me in public and you
know me, my address will bedown in the description. We're gonna Docscabe
in this episode. No, butbut seriously, you know, tell us
how you feel about this, becauseI would love to hear a perspective of
a fan of Black Sheep. Iwould love to see if, if,
if somehow my mind could be turned, because I'm not far off I'm at

(01:27:56):
I would give this movie a twopoint nine if I could. I don't
know, are you looking for anexcuse to call this not that bad?
I kind of am, you know, and I I don't know it's just
because of Farley, but like,yeah, I want to say that.
I want to say that I likethis. You know what this movie revealed
to me just how much of asentimental viewer I am. And that's something

(01:28:17):
I knew about myself. But Idon't think I realized just how much my
sobby heart could carry me through amediocre movie just because it stars an actor
that I really love who died verytragically. I mean, I you know,

(01:28:39):
I it definitely is something that makesme more inclined to like this movie.
Which is that objectively like the rightway to watch movies? Probably not.
You shouldn't go into a movie puttingexpectations on it to be this,
be this opportunity to be you know, because Farley's last great movie, right,

(01:29:01):
That's not what they were trying todo when they made this. They
didn't know he was gonna die young. It was just another Chris Farley movie.
It happened to be one of hisfinal ones. And I will say
of his whole themography, this isthe consensus runner up to Chris Farley's best
movie. I would say so easilyof the movies he started, of his

(01:29:26):
feet, of his vehicles. Yeah, of his movies, not the movies
that he appeared. And I thinkthe movies he appeared in, I mean
leaves and bounds ahead of this.But you know, I do think that
this is this could very well beconsidered his I don't know how you can
consider anything else. Maybe the almostheroes fans are gonna be jumping down our

(01:29:48):
throats please. You know, that'sthat's what I love about the show is
and you know, maybe the BeverlyHills Ninches fans will show up. See
the thing is, I know whenI watch Almost Heroes, I'm going to
root for it so hard because itstars not one, but two tragically deceased
comedians that fucking struggled publicly with substanceabuse. And it's Matthew Perry died just

(01:30:14):
a couple months ago. Very surreal, very surreal that Matthew Perry was alive
and now he's not. And nowI'm binging friends and in tearing up like
a bitch at at some of themost banal episodes. Just if it features
Matthew Perry as Chandler being, youknow, reminding us of just how of
just how much we liked him.Well, you brought something up I want

(01:30:38):
to I want to talk about first. First, I do want to say
that, even though that this movieis the consensus number two, I would
put Beverly Hills Ninja above it personally. We'll see if that holds up when
it show. I think that's thefirst hot take of the episode, So
I'm glad we got one in there. Yes, but I do want to
say something that you mentioned about watchingmovies, and I think when you put
an expectation on a film that youwatch, do have to be careful.

(01:31:00):
But I do think that one thingthat's very important is not to undersell the
value of nostalgia or sentimentality when itcomes to watching films either, you know.
I think one of the movies thatI can bring up as an example
of that for me is a moviewe've had on the show The Star Wars,
The Phantom Menace. You know,that's a movie that people shot on

(01:31:20):
all the time, and I candefinitely see what people are saying about certain
things. But like, is JarJar annoying? Yeah? But like was
he a big part of my childhood? Absolutely? So am I gonna defend
him one hundred percent? Go fuckyourself? Is he kind of a racist
caricature? I get it? Yeah, Maybe I don't know. But you
know, that's the thing is like, when you watch movies, I think
such an important component is how theymake you feel, whether that's from the

(01:31:44):
movie you're watching or from something elsethat an actor was in or that that
character was in. And maybe it'sa sequel, maybe it's just another film
in an actor's filmography, maybe it'sa television show that they were in.
Like you said with Friends, Ithink it's just important to embrace the emotions
that movies give us and not tolet that be undervalued when you're giving a
rating for a movie. And Icertainly don't. Yeah, and that's why,

(01:32:08):
despite all of its flaws, I'ma really big fan of Ladyballers because
it gives me the feeling, allright, of owning the lips. Well,
folks, if we exist after thisepisode for the rest of season two,
thank you for joining us for thereturn of Not That Bad. We
will also the end of Not ThatBad, we will at the end we

(01:32:29):
have to cancel the podcast now.We if we don't cancel it ourselves,
we will be canceled. So youknow. But but we really do appreciate
you checking out this new episode.We're really excited to kind of give you
guys some cool stuff moving forward,whether it's in season two of Not That
Bad, we'll kind of be releasingsome details about what that's gonna look like

(01:32:50):
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