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May 29, 2025 60 mins
Les and Rhi kick off Not That Kind of Book Club—a bookish podcast where #wereaditsoyoudonthaveto.

This isn’t your average book deep dive nor typical book club. We talk about everything from the ridiculous to the relatable, the dramatic to the delightfully unhinged corners of the book world. Whether it’s behind-the-scenes of our book clubs, meet-and-greets with bookish humans, or the absurd moments that make us laugh out loud—this is your invitation to a podcast where anything bookish goes. We’re just two girls who love to read, and we can’t wait to share this journey with you.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like, which one do I get rid of?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You can't get rid of any of them. They go
in a memory box.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
I have four of them on my shelf, or they
go in yourself. Well they're in Calgary, so it's okay.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well you're gonna have to move them here.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I don't think they'd fit on my bookshelf at this point.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
My more bookshelves.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
You tell my partner that one.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh, I'll go to bat for you on that one.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I don't even know where I would put another bookshelf,
Like my house is not big enough for more shelves,
but I wouldn't make it work.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh yeah, I will put books that It's all about. Hey,
I'm less and I'm read. This is not that kind
of book club, a.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Bookish podcast for we read it so you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
We are brand new to podcasting. This is episode number one,
so take it a little easy on us. And and
we're here literally just talking to you two friends about books.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
This is no judgment zone, no drama, lamas, please.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
We're just here to talk about all of our favorite books,
all your favorite books, and really just get more people,
hopefully into reading.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yes, it's all about building that book community and finding
those people to talk all of the books with, because
there's some interesting conversations to be had.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's to say the least about books. I mean, I
read pretty much everything. I'm getting ahead of myself of course,
again less I'm read. We are just two friends who met.
We had this incredible opportunity be provided to us, and
we have to jump on it. We had to jump
on it and do this. Both of us are big
book fans. I feel like it was meeting number two

(01:50):
that we realized how much we both love books and
just round with it.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I mean, by meeting number three, we decided we were
going to be best friends.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
So here we are to share books with you. We're
starting this, which I think we already covered, is just
because we want to keep building a book community. We
saw an opening and we're running with it. So as
we go through this, let us know what you kind
of want to see, what you want to hear. We're
going to do the best we can to just keep
bringing good content and everything that we find entertaining in

(02:22):
the book world. But we would love whoever's out there
listening to join in as well.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
And like I'm not gonna lie, we have some pretty
cool things coming your way. But we're always open to
suggestions and how we can make this awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
But nice suggestions, because I will cry.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yes, please be kind.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Like we said, no drama, la us well exactly right,
Like this is supposed to be fun, guys, exactly. We're
not doing this because we're forced to or anything. This
is a fun passion project that we're doing because we
just genuinely love to read. I mean, you're seeing a
couple books we both have up here throughout the little studio,
and this is just a small sample. At some point,

(03:08):
I think we're gonna have to do home book tours
so everyone can see just what our home libraries look like,
because it's it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, that's an understatement. It's it's interesting. I feel like
we're gonna have to do the whole How many books
do you have in your library?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh, that's that's a really personal question. You want to
know my number?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah? I do. I want to know that number.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, I'm gonna have to go home account first.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh suspense, that's right, I know.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
We'll save that for episode two. We'll save it for
episode two. So real, basic les, how did you get
into reading? Oh?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Gosh, okay, bear with me. This one's a little bit
of a long story. But let me start with I
fucking hated reading. It sucked. Growing up, I hated it.
I was that kid who forged my parents' signature on
that like reading log just so I could win the
bookmarks and hit my whatever one hundred and sixty hours

(04:10):
of reading to collect all these Calgary flames bookmarks.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Calgary flames. I'm not even a pizza party. No.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I had like a Jerome again, the bookmark that I
was so proud of, But it was like you had
to get to the very end to get that one,
so like it was goals.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Do you still have it? I wish?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh, let's be real. I'm pretty sure my mom threw
it out of course, but like all your stuff, I
was probably obsessed with it for five minutes. And that
I was like, ugh, who liked hockey? Anyways, So back
to that, I yeah, I hated reading, and my dad
absolutely loved reading. He was that human that he could

(04:52):
pick up a book and read the entire thing like
fastest reader I know. And so yeah, we're polar opposites
at this point. And when my dad died, I feel
like I kind of found a connection to books, and
like it kind of connected me to my dad. So
for reference, we went to Hawaii a couple months after

(05:15):
he had passed, and my mom came across this used
bookstore and she's like, oh, like, let's go in, and
me being me, I'm like, okay, I'm looking at books.
I'm like, oh, this one like sounds pretty good. And
I read an entire book on the beach and I
asked my mom said, kay, like, can we go back
to that bookstore? And then all of a sudden, I

(05:36):
read four books in Hawaii, and then the next year
I read thirty five books for a year, and then
it was one hundred and then one hundred and thirty
and this year's going to be one hundred and fifty.
So I honestly feel like it's my dad that kind
of got me into reading, and it's like my connection
to him. So long story short, my dad got me

(05:57):
into reading.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
But yeah, in that cool, long, roundabout kind of way,
that's actually really special to kind of have that connection.
And I mean, it's been what like nine years since
your dad eight nine years since.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Your dad happy eight years at the end of.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
May, okay, and like a really beautiful way to kind
of still feel close to him and keep his spirit alive, right.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I don't know, And like it might sound like a
sad story, but honestly, like for me, it's kind of
happy story too because it's you get to keep that
connection and even though they're gone. Like you read a
book and you're like, man, my dad would love this book,
or my dad would be making fun of me right
now because you feel like you always bitched about reading
and now you're hosting a podcast and you read books

(06:43):
for a living at this point, But yeah, how about
you read what got you into reading?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
So growing up, I kind of went through phases where
I had a lot of friends and then I was
kind of a loner. But it all started with me
being a little bit pretty weird, Like full stop, I'm
pretty weird. So I go through phases of just being
very introverted, a little bit extroverted, and books were always
something that were there for me. They were like friends essentially,

(07:13):
which sounds so sad to admit out loud, but say,
but they are though you know, they're a great escape.
You have all these different genres that you can read,
and all of a sudden you have tons of friends
through different worlds. So for me growing up, reading was
a way for me to escape, to get into things,
which is a really cool thing too, you know. So

(07:37):
you build these like little worlds and you get to
be a part of it for a little while. Honestly,
think about what's going on on the outside outside that door.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like, I feel like that
resonates with me too in a way, because when you're
having a bad day or when something happens, sometimes just
crawling into your bed and reading a book just kind
of makes everything feel a little bit better, and like
you're able to shut off your brain. You're able to
read a book and be like, oh my god, these
people are more messed up than I am. Yeah, but

(08:07):
I'm not messed up. I swear, I'm just a little
bit weird. Like read. It's probably why we are very
similar humans. I don't know, Like I have difficulties sometimes
imagining or like picturing what a world will look like.
And like when you read a fantasy book, when you're
reading it, can you see it? Like can you be like, oh,

(08:30):
I imagine that this is what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yes, I build it in my brain.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
See, I do not have that ability, and so I'll
read things I'm like, wait, what is this? Like where
are we? I'm confused. So I'm that person that has
to like constantly flip to a map and be like, oh, okay,
I got it. But like some books, I just I
can't read. And I know. My partner the other day
actually asked me. He's like, well, when you read a

(08:54):
smart book, do you like picture the man or like
picture the people? And I was like no, He's like, well,
then how do you read it? I was like, no,
They're just people in a book. Like, I don't picture them,
I just read about them.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay. I feel like smut books are the best that
set things up so you can actually picture what's going
on because you always have the author saying, oh, look
at how engorged he is, and you're like, yep, I
can picture that serious, rippling, sinewy muscle in his legs

(09:30):
and you're like, yeah, I can see that happening.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
See. It's wild the terminology that authors will use for things,
and I'm just like, honestly, like, what is this? Walk
around this just say like dude, we hooked up, or
like any of that. Don't give me fake names for things.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Like oh them are pretty outrageous, like.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Tickle my pickle and you're like no, just say like
what it is?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, yeah, what you're.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I don't know how we got here. I talked about how.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Books to read.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
It now we're talking about tickling a pickle.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
But yeah, so even still to this day, like I love,
I think my therapist thinks it's a good thing, Like
reading is a good escape. You obviously don't do it
all the time, if she is watching this, I don't
read to escape all the time, just sometimes, but it
is an easy thing to do. Like I bring a
book with me if I'm going to an appointment and

(10:32):
I know I'm gonna have to wait if I'm not
sitting in traffic, but I'll listen to audiobooks. Then if
I'm at work and I have a bit of a break,
I'll open up a book. It's just there's so many
opportunities where instead of you know, grabbing my phone and
scrolling through it, I just pick up a book. But
I think what people don't understand with reading either, because

(10:53):
I have talked to so many people who say, oh,
I haven't read since high school, And in my brain
right away I go Judgie and I'm like, well, you're
illiterate as fuck if you haven't read a book since
high school. So sorry for everybody who isn't reading.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Sorry if the last book you read is Catcher in
the Rye, like you need to educate yourself on the
smut world or like fantasy worlds, like not Catcher in
the Rye. Like, of course you don't want to read
after that.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
There's so much out there. There is literally a book
for everyone out there, and it's just it's a muscle
that you have to work on and you have to build,
just like you would go to the gym to build
bigger like body muscles, you have to sit and read
and practice to be able to build a reading muscle
as well.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
And I think too that like people when they read,
you're able to kind of oh my gosh, my voice
is cracking some coffee. Sorry, But I think that when
people read, it kind of increases the speed you're able
to read at because, like you said, it's building that muscle.

(11:57):
And I don't know what I can call it, like
you're reading muscle or whatever you want to call it,
but realistically, like eventually you're able to actually read faster.
I know that I also listen to audiobooks. I mean,
driving to Calgary for six and a half hours there
and six and a half hours back, you can probably
blow through like two books, unless you're reading a fantasy

(12:17):
novel that is five hundred and fifty pages long.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Fifteen.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, but even there, Like my speed of listening has
gotten higher, so like I cannot listen to a book
at one point speed, like it hurts my soul. So
normally it's like a one point three to a one
point five. But I also know people who listen to
it at like two point twenty five, And I'm like, hey,

(12:44):
that's gibberish. I have no idea how you do that.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's a lot of processing.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's see, it builds your processing speed and like in
your brain and like cognitively, Like I think it is
important to like keep your brain kind of processing like that,
because again it's that muscle and a lot of us
have slower processing speed because of kind of what's going
on in the world, and we are very addicted to
social media and we don't read, and we don't go outside,

(13:12):
we don't do these things. Like the world has changed.
The world has changed drastically in the last little while.
So yeah, again, how did we get here?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I know, I do think the world is going back
into reading more and more and more, though like there
is I don't want to call it trendy to be
a well read person, but at the same time, it
seems like more people are getting into actually getting books
and reading them again.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Well, and then you also have the people, unfortunately I'm
not calling myself out here, but I am also calling
myself out here that buy books because they're pretty and like,
hang on, hang on, hang on.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Before we even go further with this, everybody needs to
know that buying books, having books, and reading books are
three separate. So you might be reading something, but then
you have a separate hobby of acquiring all your books
as well as having all your books. So don't sit
and feel bad that you have a bookshelf full of

(14:11):
books you're not willing to read because you just have
the hobby of building a bookshelf. And maybe you like
to go shop for your books and then you'll find
one every so often that you're gonna read well.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
And honestly, like if I read something on my kindle
and I'm like, man, like that book was so good,
Am I going to order it most likely Am I
ever going to crack it open? Probably not, but it's
a souvenir or a trophy that like, I loved that book.
And then also like if you go to any book
signings or you go to any of those things and
authors sign your book, I am not cracking that book open.

(14:45):
It is sitting on my shelf because now this is
like a valued possession. But I have also learned that
I should stop getting them to write my name in them,
because then if I ever choose to like get rid
of a book and has my name in it, so
now I can't get rid of it because I could,
but like, I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, But one of my favorite things when I am
shopping at thrift stores or used bookstores is when I
find a book and I open it up and there's
a personalized inscription in there to someone, and you're like,
this book had so much love in it, and like,
who else has read it? Where has this come from?
Who gave it to you? What was the you know,

(15:25):
anniversary or what was the occasion that you gave this
book to someone? And then it ends up on my
shelf and it's so cool and it makes me think
about books that I've lost along my journey that I've
had written, you know, signed for me, or I've written
my name in and where the fuck in the world
are those books? So if you find one ever through
the world, like, let me know where it ended up.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
If it just says Rihanna and you're like, yeah, that
is totally to me. There's no one else in this
world called Rihanna not spelt this way and that felt
that way. But I don't know, Like I also find
it really cool. I find it a lot more with
like kids books, and like you'll find it and you'll
open it and it's like has the date and it's
like happy birthday to my sweet granddaughter, love grandma and Grandpa,

(16:10):
and you're just like, oh my god, Like that's so
kind and I love it. It's so cute.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
And then times was this read to you at night?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah? And then I mean, I don't know about you.
But when I graduated grade twelve, I think I got
five copies of The Places You'll Go by Doctor Seuss, Yes, classes,
and I can't get rid of any of them because
they're all personalized by different people, and of course they
all wrote in the book. And I was like man, Like,

(16:37):
this one's from my teacher, This one's from my parents.
This one's for my aunt and uncle, my mom's best friend. Like,
which one do I get rid of?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
You can't get rid of any of them? Oh they
go in a memory box. I have four of them
bout my shelf, or they go in yourself.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well they're in Calgary, so it's okay.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well you're gonna have to move them here.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't think they'd fit on my bookshelf at this point.
Buy more bookshelves, my partner that one.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh, I'll go to bat for you on that one.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't even know where I would put another bookshelf,
Like my house is not big enough for more shelves,
but I would make it work.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh yeah, I will put books.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
That it's all about, Like I keep joking that my
office is probably the most expensive room in my house
because I have like six hundred books in there, and
a lot of them are like exclusive editions or sprayed
edges or signed copies. So like, do not burn my
house down. I will cry. I cannot take six hundred

(17:37):
books out of my house if it's on fire. Like
you know when somebody asks you, what would you grab
if your house was on fire, like I would have
to go and like grab like the most important books
to me, and then I'd forget everything else. So like
that's not that's not great.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
But this just makes me think. I have all of
my books in our living room and there's a big
picture window there, and if there was a fire, I
would probably the window and just start throwing books on
my front lawn to get them out of the fire.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, as your partner's running around trying to grab passports.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Make sure the dogs, well, I would obviously make sure
the dogs are okay, but yeah, I would just be
chucking books on my front lawn because I Am not
losing those.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Again, I feel like this is a conversation I'm going
to have to happen them at home and be like, hey,
you're responsible for all of the important documents, and I
will be throwing my books out the window from the
second floor and hope to God that they don't get
too destroyed. Or maybe I'll throw the mattress out first
and then throw my books on the mattress.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yet like put like a sheet down or something and
then just start.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Could you im mad? Oh no, you take a sheet
and you like throw all the books in it and
you tie it up like those uh like, yeah, you
have a stick and you throw it over your shoulder.
Like all I can think of is like Winnie the Pooh,
But like I wouldn't even be able to carry that.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Six hundred books.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I'd been dragging this like sheet full of books across
this like.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
As long a fire is getting closer and closer to
you and we're just they're dragging them all.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah. See, now you have me thinking of, like do
I move some books into the corner as like these
are the ones I would take in a fire?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
But you don't want to put that out there either.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
No, I don't want my house to burn down.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, I would also prefer your house not to burn down.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, I mean the fire hydrant is right on the corner,
so like that's pretty helpful.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's very convenient.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, but yeah, Okay, it was a good talk.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I mean that was I mean, now I have escape
plan of what I'm going to do for my books.
I had never thought about this before, and as somebody
who spirals quite often, I can't believe that I didn't
think about my books before. But now I have a
game plan for you know, how.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Long we're going to be talking about this. Now, we're
just going to have text conversations about Okay, what are
we going to bring, Like what things are we actually
taking out of our house if it's on fire?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Exactly. I'm going to have to inform my partner now
that this is the game plan. Yeah, like you take
care of all that. I have to take care of
the book.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
We're gonna have to sit down and write an emergency
action plan and be like, this is our roles, this
is what's happening. But like you also have to be
careful because if I throw the cat outside, he's just
gonna leave put an air tag on him. He doesn't
even have a collar on right now. He lost his collar.
Do you think that he's not gonna lose an air tag.
My cat's are not that smart.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
You almost not like a microchip type thing, but you
almost want them to just like swallow one. He is chipped.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
So okay, well that's pel.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
He'll be fine. He'll be fine. You throw the cat out,
then you throw the books out. And so this is
a good opportunity for everybody else. Think about your emergency
action plan of what you're gonna do with your books.
If you were to have a fire at your house,
are they in a place where you can easily grab
them like your favorite ones? Are they in a rough spot?
Or do you need to move them somewhere close to

(20:51):
a window so you can also action plan and just
like break the window and throw them outside.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm gonna ask this again. How did we get to
emergency action plads for saving our books?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I don't know, But now we're here and I have really,
really just dug into this. I'm going to be thinking
about it all day.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I'm very invested in this conversation.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Now, Oh my gosh, pivot though, Pivot the books? Do
you read it a time?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
How many books I read at a time?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah? Are you a one book at a time person?
Or do you have multiples on the go? Because I
know how I answer this question, but I like to
hear what other people are you gonna judge my answer? No,
no judgment here.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I usually have like three or four because you have
to have one on your kindle yep, you have to
have one on audible. You have to have one on
your phone in case you forget your kindle somewhere. Yes,
and then naturally like you have to have a book
book that you're actually going to crack the spine and read. Yes,
do you agree? Are you the same?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm the same girl. I have my audiobook right now,
I've got my kindle here, I've got some book books
I'm reading, and then of course I've got my kindle
on my phone, because you don't want to get caught
somewhere and not have a book to read.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
See. And it's like, if I forget my kindle, I
have my phone. If I magically forget my phone, which
that's a.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Little hard to do, not in today's d age, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Then I would have my actual book. Usually I have
one in my car, And I know that sounds weird,
but emergency action plan I've got to read.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, that makes me feel like I need to put
a book in my car too, so I guess I
know what I'm doing later.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I mean, let's be real, if I forget my phone,
then I also can't listen to my audio books, so
like that's like three out of four options are gone.
So you got to put a book in your car.
M h, I'm just going to put it in my
like under my seat, in that little bin that pulls out. Yeah,
no one will know I have books in my car.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Wow, I mean, are you embarrassed to have books in
your car? Is this like a dirty little secret?

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I mean, if I'm being honest, there's probably always two
boxes of books in the back of my car. And like,
this makes me sound crazy. I'm not crazy, but you know,
I run a little business and I need used books.
And when I get books and some of them can't
really use they go in a box and then you

(23:12):
go to Value Village you get your twenty percent off
coupon and you buy some new books, or you go
to fill your basket for seven dollars at the thrift
store and you drop off books at the same time.
So you're like, hey, I donated back to the community.
Now I'm gonna let the community donate to me.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
That's the best way to do it. If you have
not gotten into thrifting books, whether it's at secondhand stores,
it's at you know, your local little bookstores, it's at
Value Village, Mission Thrift, what have you, you are missing
out because people donate bran new books all the time
and they are in such good condition. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I mean, I'll put a pin in this conversation because
I I think we'll talk about it next episode, more
about like where to go even in Saskatoon and finding
books and things like that, because that honestly could be
an entire episode.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yes, just like the best ways to do it one
hundred percent. So you read many books at a time.
What is your goal this year for how many books
you want to read for twenty twenty five?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Okay, so I set it for one hundred and fifty.
And you know when you're on either like what is it?
There's good Reads and is it story graph or I
have another one on my phone. But I was so
on top of it, and it was like kind of
encouraging because they're like, great pace, you're on track for
your goal. And then I had a little bit of

(24:39):
kind of like a what's it called like a slump? Yeah,
and I didn't pick up a book for I don't
like two three weeks, which doesn't sound like very long.
And then you go back on Goodreads and it's like, hmmm,
you're falling behind. You have six more books to catch up,
and you're like, oh my god, now you're making me
feel guilty for not reading, Like I feel like I'm

(25:00):
a child and I didn't do my homework and now
I'm behind and I'm about to fail a test, and man,
good Reads is really mean sometimes.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Okay, I'm in the spot where Goodreads is being mean
to me. I think I'm nine books behind currently. I'm
trying to read one hundred and fifty this year, and
I met. I want to say I'm at forty six.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Maybe now I'm going to check look it up. I
gotta check what I know where you're at. Yeah, it
is a graph where am I. Let's see.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I'm on Goodreads. And if you guys are on good
Reads and you are good with technology, I would love
to find you. Uh find me. I think my username
is just re space Anna, and I would love to
see what you're reading, because it's always a good way
to find new books is just to see what everybody
else is reading.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I mean, honestly, I have no idea what my username is.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But if you find me, you can you find me?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Okay, what do you think I'm at out of one.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Hundred and fifty? You've got to be close. I would
say you're probably between fifty and sixty.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
You're you're pretty dead on Yeah, I met fifty three.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Oooh okay, So first schedule wise, what does Goodreads.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Say, press on read four books to get back on track. Ah, okay,
so I'm still behind. Yeah, this is ridiculous. I stayed
up till four last night reading a book because I
couldn't sleep, and I was like, oh, it's gonna catch
me up on Goodreads.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Nope, No, still behind, still behind.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Still behind.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Okay, well what are you reading right now? Then?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Oh gosh, what am I reading right now? I am
reading Wicked Games by s Mastery. Oh okay, yes it
is not what I expected. I kind of expected some standalones.
And then, of course, last night, at four in the morning,
I finished the first book and left me on a
little bit of a cliffhanger. So, of course do I
go to bed?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Do I finish it?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
No? I had to read like the first three chapters,
and then I was like, okay, like, you should probably
actually force yourself to sleep now, naturally, but I'm gonna
call my cable because yes, I want to tell you
what I'm listening to as well. I am listening to
my so called Love Life by Lauren Blakee. Okay, yeah,

(27:12):
for once, it's not a dark romance.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Give us a little synopsis. What's this about?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Okay, I'm not that far into it, so okay, let's
be real. I don't know a ton, so let me
just read you some of the stuff on here. Yeah,
I mean it is a delicious romantic comedy with Sebastian
York and Vanessa Edwin. Guys, if you haven't listened to
Sebastian York, he's a great, great voice actor. There's some

(27:36):
really good voice actors out there. That's another episode we
can talk about, like the best authors, the best audio authors.
They're not audio authors, they're audio or voice actors, voice actors. See,
I know some things, but I stumble on words. But yeah,
this one's good. And then My Wicked Games is kind

(27:58):
of like a dark hockey romance. But then it's also
not a hockey romance, like he plays hockey. It's kind
of in like the background, so like, I don't know
why they call it a hockey robots. It's more of
like a I don't know. It's like a revenge book,
and I did not expect that, So I kind.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Of like that where you just grab a book and
you don't necessarily look and see what it's about, and
you just start reading and it's like, oh shit, how
did we get here? And how did I pick this up?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, it's like I have a book back here that
I had it on my wish list on Amazon, and
I will admit I think I put it in there
because the cover looked really fun, yes, and then when
I got it, I read the like forward in the
book and it's going on and it's like, this is
a slasher romance. I was like, oh my god, what

(28:48):
is the slasher robots? And then it says it ends
on a happily ever after for two characters, but you
won't know which too until you read it. And I
was like, oh my god, Like.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
If it's a slasher, people are dying.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
But like I don't like horror movies or scary movies,
these like actually terrify me. Yeah, So now I don't
know how I'm going to read a slasher romance. So
I might be passing that off to you to read
and then you can tell me if it's scary, and
then I'll read it.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I also hate horror, but sometimes I can get away
with thrillers, so I'll read that for you.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I can do that great, add it to my TV
or a pile, but just add it over, just put
it on your shelf instead. Exactly awesome. What are you
reading right now?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, I brought a few of them. Of course, I
have my paper copy of books. We've got our kindle,
the new Anna Huong book. Yeah, King of Envy just
came out, so we've got that going on the kindle.
I'm listening to an audio book called The Tell by
Amy Griffin. It's a memoir. It is about sexual assault.

(29:53):
It's actually really fascinating, and she didn't remember it happening
to her until she was in I think her forty.
She does a psychedelic drug trip, like assisted, and then
the memories come back to her. So it's just so fascinating.
And of course, because everything in my life likes to
have a theme, one of the other books i'm reading

(30:15):
is called Remember by Lisa Genova, So it's the science
of memory and the art of forgetting. She's a neuroscientist,
so this is all about just how we store memories,
how they can be kept, how we recall memories. It's
really really fascinating. So it's kind of cool that those
two rap a little bit together. I've got a poetry

(30:36):
book on the go. I hope you remember Josie Banca.
This just came out recently.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I did see that. I need to get a copy
of this as well.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Kay. She is a radio DJ in Calgary who does
her little poems on the internet in her closet. It's
so cute. Josie. If you ever come across this podcast,
we would love to have you on here to talk
about your book. Canadian content always always super awesome, but
it's just so lovely. I'm not very far in, but

(31:06):
I'm enjoying it and I just love a good poetry book.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah. I'm gonna say one thing because I think it's funny.
You can tell that you're from Saskatchewan because you said Calgary.
It is Calgary, just two syllables, Calgary Calgary Calgary, not
Calgary Calgary Calgary Calgary. There you go, Okay, you learned
something new.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah. And then the last one another memoir. I apparently
am not reading any romance right now. Besides King of
NB is The Many Lives of Mama Love, which I'm
in a book club.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I'm in this book club as book.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Club, and this is the one we're reading right now.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
So I forgot to mention I'm also reading this book.
It's also on my currently reading list. Yes, but hey,
I gotta tell you about two books that I just read. Yes, please,
so don't laugh at me. But this is a prime
example of I read this book. I loved this book.
I ordered this book. It was supposed to be here
yesterday so that I could show you this book. Yeah,

(32:04):
did it show up?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
No?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
No. Amazon's also taken a break for the weekend, so.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Whatever usually on weekends though.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, I know, and I even used my partner's Prime
for this one. But you know, it's fine. I guess
I'll forgive Amazon. But okay, So it's called Culty by
Marianna Zappada or Zapada Zapata Zapata sounds right. And if
you know me, I love soccer and this is a

(32:33):
soccer book. But it's a romantic book, but not a
romantic book. And sometimes I find slow burns are not
for me. However, this story was so good because it
kind of focused more on developing the characters and it
didn't happen in five minutes, like you don't read the

(32:54):
book and in five minutes they're like, oh my god,
I love you. Right. It's between a player and a coach,
and the coach used to be a professional soccer player,
and he is super grouchy and like kind of miserable,
if I'm being honest, and she is this upcoming, up
and coming soccer star and she's going places and they

(33:16):
both know that they can't be anything because that was
one of the rules at the beginning of the season.
So it kind of goes through the entire season training
how they kind of form this friendship and like the
undertone is there of like, yeah, they like each other.
Oh yeah, Like it's going, it's going. And eventually, actually

(33:38):
he has to step back as coach so that she
can play in the finals. And it was after the
final game, and this is like the last not last chapter,
but it's like the third last chapter, and they they
lose their game and they finally kiss and they were
finally like, oh my god, I love you. But it

(33:59):
was one of those stories that I truly enjoyed because
you actually built a character and you actually, as a reader,
understood the character, which I find sometimes doesn't actually exist
anymore in a lot of books. And like I said,
you hop in and you're like, oh my gosh, like
we're in grade twelve, which is also really hard to
read as somebody who is not in grade twelve. Yes,

(34:21):
and they're in love. This is their first like romance
that my boyfriend is the best and I'm gonna be
with him forever and we're gonna get married. So I
think it was a good change of pace, that this
was actually like a good developing story. And then second
book got to talk about it. It has some hilarious quotes,

(34:43):
but this one was like a dark football romance. Yeah,
and it's the second in a series. It's by C. R. James.
I did not bring it. I forgot to bring it.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
That's okay, But.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
It was also really good and it kind of built
on a character that was in the book. And yes,
they're kind of crazy bananas and like, let's be real,
he's a little bit of a stalker. He like slept
under her bed and like it was so weird and
you're reading this and you're like, oh my god, like
do people actually do this?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
And they ended up together, yeah, at the end of
the book together after he.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Sleeps under her bed, sleeps under her bed, but then
like he stays under her bed like waits for her
to leave the next morning. And I was like, what
was the purpose of you sleeping on the floor under
her bed, like not that I'm saying I wanted him
to like wake up and like crawl into bed with her. No,
but like why did you even do that? But book, Yeah, okay,
I got to read you these though. So this book

(35:44):
kind of had like a lot of humor undertone mm hmm,
and like certain things you would read and you're like,
oh my god, like who comes up with these things?
So I won't read anything that's like super bananas. But
I gotta redo this. So this is why I didn't
want to tell you anything. You'll get so dramatic, just

(36:06):
like a drama lama. So I am now using the
term drama lama a lot because I think it's hilarious
and I love it. And then to this.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
One, put on your audio book author voice when you're
doing this, Oh.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
God, do it.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
It's not going to be very good.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Oh yes it will, okay.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I don't even know how I would make this sound. Yeah,
And then she just tilts her head and goes, it's
fascinating how Marrow keeps us alive. Isn't it like she's
personally tested the theory as she drinks her iced fucking milk.
I can't be an audio voice recorder.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
But like that's not bad, So hard.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
On you who also drinks milk with ice in it.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I don't know that. That's like true blooded psychopaths watered
down milk gross?

Speaker 1 (37:05):
And then cay, I'll end off on like a joke, okay,
because I think it's hilarious and I think I've told
everybody this joke, Like every person I know now knows
this joke. But what has two butts and kills people? What?
An assassin?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Get it?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Assassin?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
It is pretty good. You did tell me this one already.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
But it's a great one. So guys, please tell everybody
this joke and think of me when you do it,
because I think it's hilarious. But read what book have
you read that you just finished? Or have you?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Okay? So how do I make this sound nice? All right?
I just like to pick books quite randomly, and I
don't read the synopsis or anything. I just read. This
was the case with an audiobook I decided to pick up,
listen to, and read, which we'll get into this on

(38:05):
another episode. Audiobooks are books. They count?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Oh, I agree abstily so.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
David Chang, founder of Momofuku, restaurants, wrote a memoir, and
I just like listening to books about food because food
is life. Food is delicious, and who doesn't want to
be driving home at the end of the day listening
to what they put in their risotto and how they
shave down pieces of carrots or truffle to put on

(38:32):
top of it. It's amazing. But I started listening to
this book, and all of a sudden, he starts talking
about and then I realized I was depressed and I
had just had a manic high, and talking about how
he has bipolar disorder, and as somebody who also suffers
from well, I don't suffer. Everybody around me suffers, but

(38:52):
has some mental health issues. I don't know how, but
I keep managing to find books that mirror my experience
in life. So I do have bipolar disorder. And to
have this book just randomly open up about his experience,
I'm like, hm, okay, maybe I gravitated towards this one
for a second. But it's called Eat a Peach. It's

(39:14):
really fascinating. He weaves in all of his different business ventures,
through his mental health journey, through fatherhood, through going like
growing up as a young Korean American boy. It's really fascinating.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
That does sound pretty good.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Actually, yeah, not really what I was expecting when I
started it at all. I'm like, ooh, another food book.
I can't wait to hear about what he's cooking.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
And I don't know how you listen to food books.
I'd be like salivating driving home that I'm so hungry.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I do, I definitely do, but I just I kind
of love it. I love it. It gets my appetite
going before I have to go home and get my app.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Then you actually have to go home and cook. Yeah,
and I'm like, oh man, that's a little work, but
like I will cook. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
But one thing I do want to say, like, I
love the fact that we read so many different things.
Like I'm not necessarily a nonfic person or someone who
reads memoirs. It's not even that I don't like them,
but I do. But sometimes when I read something that
kind of resonates too closely to me, it's a little

(40:23):
bit triggering sometimes, Like like you said, like I also
have some mental health and I have PTSD, So for
me to read certain things, I'm like, no, like I can't,
this is going to send me into a downward spiral,
so I'm not gonna do that. And it's the same
with like listening to music. There are some songs I'm like,
next I can't listen to right. And I just love

(40:46):
the fact that you read a lot of nonfic, but
you also read fiction and you'll read kind of anything,
whereas you look at my stuff and it's like romance,
dark romance, oh, fantasy, because I think I'm more of
the person who I like reading things that a are
fiction and not real, or things that would never occur

(41:09):
in real life, or something that like I'm not interested in.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
The escapism is real.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, it's wild and I like it though, And I'm
not saying that I won't read a nonfic, like, for example,
I'm reading the memoir for book Club and I am
reading it, so be proud here, proud, But yeah, I
just love the fact that we're not going to both
be just talking about romances, like we're gonna be able
to talk about literally anything and everything. So that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
It is pretty cool. And I think, I don't know what,
I think. I just love books. I just love books less. Yeah,
I love books.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I know read I do too, I do too. But
like I know, I don't even know how to add
to that, Like books are just such an important thing,
and I don't think people recognize that anymore. And like
you had said before, like I would rather pick up
a book than scroll on Instagram or on Facebook and

(42:11):
the god awful TikTok, but honest to God, like I
feel like even where we're kind of moving in life
and in this direction of things happening, I think it's
important to kind of transition back to reading and read
things that you wouldn't necessarily read. But I'm also a

(42:32):
firm believer that we don't need so many copies of
certain books. And I really find the idea of rehoming
and re loving and reusing books to be valuable and
important because there are thousands of copies of on ex
Storm or Room Hate or any of those super popular

(42:56):
books that we all read one and then what happens,
right then you end up having those brand new copies
of books in stores, which is beneficial to other people.
And that's why I just kind of want to say,
like it is so important that we reuse and we
find and we kind of keep books going rather than

(43:19):
always buying new or using Amazon for everything. And I'm
also a firm believer that support local read Canadian literature,
read anything written by Canadian authors. I'm not saying don't
read anything American, like there are some phenomenal authors that
are American. But yeah, at the end of the day,

(43:40):
I'm a very firm believer that we got to read
home books and fun fact, this weekend, I put up
a book house outside my house. Oh and you did.
And it's so cute, a little library, I know, it's
it honestly brings so much joy, Like it is actually wild.
I would argue that it's not a bookhouse, it's a

(44:01):
book hotel. Oh. My uncle actually made it. He is
a contractor and he took materials from the garage and
like built this thing. And when I say it weighs
a ton, I'm not even joking. Like there's no way
I could pick it up. And my partner had two
of his friends actually come and like help them like

(44:22):
put it up. But the inside actually has hardwood and
like three shelves. And at one point my uncle was like, oh,
like do you want me to put carpet on the bottom,
Like what do you need? I was like no, Like please,
don't put carpet inside a book house. That's weird, Like,
my books don't need carpet. But he even had like
old cabinet doors that he like cut the middle out

(44:42):
so he could put windows in there, and they're like
frosted windows, and oh my gosh, it's it's absolutely beautiful.
And again, my partner brought home this like six foot
pole and we had to dig three and a half
feet down. We put this pole in and he just
walks over with this massive, big of h cement and
it's like the rapid dry or whatever. He pours it

(45:05):
into this hole, just dumps some massive bucket of water
and starts filling it up with dirt. And I was like, dude,
like what are you doing? And the response I got
was well, at least now if somebody thinks they want
to drive up onto the curve or hit it down,
it's going to do more damage to them than it
will to the book house. And if you're gonna make
me have a bad day, I'll make you have a

(45:26):
bad day.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
So if you imagine telling your insurance, like your car
insurance agent, what happened, Like house, I hit a book house, Okay,
how's the book house?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Well, then I said to him, what if we move, Like,
I'm not leaving my book house here. He's like, oh,
it's fine, We'll like unscrew the book house and we'll
take it with us. And I was like, well, what
about the hole. He's like, oh, that's not moving. So
whoever buys my house at the near future, you will
just have a six foot pole in your ground cemented
in good luck.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Have fun with it.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, But I eventually will post a picture of my
book house and I'll tell everybody to go and check
it out. But it's not ready yet. I have to
fix a few things, and I'm also going to have
to put books in it, yes, and I have to
figure out how to re register it with a free
Little Library because I already have the sign but it's

(46:20):
just not letting me log in yet. So yeah, that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
So so exciting. I'll give you some books for that.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh perfect. I'm also probably going to wrap some up
and throw some blind dates in there and be like,
take a blind date and leave some books, because if
you know me, I love wrapping books and rehome in books.
And I actually own not your average book club, so
it's weird to say own I created it, and now
it's actually become a little bit of a small business,

(46:49):
and it's a registered business. So the whole purpose of
the business is repurposing books and building a book community.
And we have all of these virtual book clubs and
all of those things, and it's super fun. And I
love that we're doing this podcast because it's it's not
associated necessarily with my business, but I still get to
talk about books with somebody, and I get to share

(47:09):
it with other people, and and I love that. I
just absolutely love talking about books. And I'm all for
discussing books, even if they're like unhinged, and if you
really want to talk about a slasher romance, I will
talk about a slasher romance. But yeah, sorry for the
rant there. I mean I love that. I don't know.
Books are books are life.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
So books are amazing, Okay to be read? Books, Okay,
are on your TVR.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Okay, I got them, well, I brought some of them.
So number one, first of all, look at the spray
edges on this bad boy.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
This hold that up to the camera.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
That's gorgeous, Like it's beautiful as I'm just like advertising.
But this is room hate by Penelope Ward I've actually
read this book already, but it's one of those books
that I actually really really enjoyed that I'm going to
actually read it again. So it actually kind of comes
in three parts, and it's one of those romance is

(48:09):
that it's like right place, wrong time, okay, And it
happens for the male character, and then it also happens
for the female character, and eventually, you know, things work out.
But it's just such a cute little story and I'm
really excited to read it again actually.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
And it's such a cute little book.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, and this is the newer book cover that got released.
The first one has a man laying there with like
no shirt on, and I'm not gonna lie. I hate
people and covers. It's my biggest pet peeve. So I
actually read it on my Kindle for that reason. And
then now there's some yeah, and now they release this
someone and I was like, oh, yeah, like it has

(48:48):
like graphic but like not an actual human okay. And
then I'm also wanting to read Wolf by Hasley Hope.
Technically one of my book clubs did read it. I
just didn't read it that month because I didn't have
time to read it that month, So this one is
now one that I'm going to read. And then because

(49:13):
I loved col Tie, yeah, I am going to read
The Wall of Winnipeg and Me, by the same author.
I did actually bring Rihanna a copy of this, and
I told her she has to read it as well,
because classic Alessia went into the basement to find a
book and she found this book. I'm like, like, do
I have it already? I was like, no, I don't

(49:34):
have it, and I go upstairs and the other day, well,
my lied. Yesterday I was just putting a book away
and I was like, is that the whole of Winnipeg
and Me? And so that's how I realized I have
two copies of it. So Rihanna gets a copy of
the book.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Actually, Gary, it's on the chair right there. Can you
toss it at me? Because these two have different covers? Yeah,
so see can I make yeah catch? So we have
this blue cover with a cute little couple.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
And then we have this one where it's like kind
of more focused on the female character. Oh, and then
the male character is on.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
The back with football.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah. And I find like this one's heavy though, like yeah,
that's yeah, Like this is like a normal paperback.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, this has got wait I don't know what, like.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Like it's a heavy book. It is makes this book
so heavy, Like are they thick.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Pages or something like that.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I don't know, but that's wild.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
But yeah, so we're both gonna be reading that.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah, and then okay, so of course I have to
pull it up on my phone because I don't have it.
But okay, maybe you tell us about your TVR and
then come back to me for my last two.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Okay, so shockingly, I like to have a little bit
of everything in my TBR. Yeah, starting right with the top.
I'm one of those people that loves to read professional
personal development books like consistently, so how to Be the

(51:05):
Love You Seek, doctor Nicole Lapara. I did read her
first one, how to Do the Work, and I really
enjoyed it. Not too long. It's going to have some
cute little kind of like journal activities through it, which
is always really nice, easy easy summer book one Golden
Summer Carly Fortune, Canadian.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Author, actually she is Canadian.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
She is Canadian. This is her newer book. We Love
Emily Henry so great, big beautiful Life. Just another nice
easy read.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
My gosh, watch out your pile is gonna fall over.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Hang on, We're good, it's just getting bigger.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Excuse me too, there's never too many books.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Thank you, thank you. And then Goodreads does this thing
where they give you like achievements and they're literally participation ribbons.
But I really want to get more of them. So
Women of Good Fortune I found on my books. It'll
give me another participation ribbon for it.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Isn't that like it's like the best form of reinforcement,
because like I must, it's the same as my bookmarks.
I needed it. Yes, I want it. I'm gonna do it. Yep.
Even if that one was cheating, I'm not cheating for
this though exactly.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I actually want to read the book. Yeah, no, I
want to read the books. And I have to read
the books. And then the other one. I'll never call
him dad again, turning our family trauma of chemical submission
into a collective fight. So I believe this was the
Woman of the Year. It's based on not based it's
about Giselle Pellicot. So what had happened? Oh, we're going

(52:39):
real deep in episode one, but you know what, we're
here for it. So in France, a lady found a
file on her husband's computer, and I might have the
basis of this story wrong, where he had been giving
her different drugs at supper time and then calling men
over to abuse her and he took videos and photos.

(53:02):
Was found out. Over fifty men ended up getting charged
and have to serve time for this. But she good.
She didn't hide her identity. She said, no, I need
to put my identity out there so I can be
the face of this because I deserve justice. So her
daughter wrote this book about her and the family's fight

(53:23):
against this type of abuse.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
So yeah, that's like kind of heavy, but at the
same time, I think it's going to be an important
one to read and to get through. And just because
this lady did the unthinkable, Like she could have just
kept her anonymity and had it go through the trials
and system, but she chose to put her name out
there and to become not necessarily the face of it,
but yeah, to put herself out there very quickly.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
But you know what, I also feel like that's probably
a form of healing too, because I feel like sharing
your story it does really help you kind of work
through things. And that's something too that like I've had
a lot of times where I share my story and
I tell people it and it helps me because it's
not that I don't want people to know these things.

(54:10):
It's they're just heavy and sometimes, like I don't want
to trauma dump on anyone, but it helps sometimes just
to have somebody listen and be like, you know what, Yeah,
that really sucked and I'm sorry you had to go
through that. No, I don't want pity or anything like that,
but sometimes it's just nice for you to kind of
have that not reinforcement, but somebody understands, and somebody.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Says, like validating.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
There you go, validating your feelings, right, But yeah, I
think it's important, and I do think that that's probably
like a really good way of healing. And I might
actually have to read that because now I feel like
I'm not intrigued is not the right word, but I
am feeling very very much like I want to read
this book. I want to know this story, and I

(54:55):
want to see like what happened and kind of what
what these people who are serving time, like, I want
to know all about this. This is an interesting story.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Okay, Well, when I'm done, I'll definitely have to share
it with you.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Okay, I finally have my last two.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Okay, what are your last two?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
My last one or my last two? Not Safe by
Work or not Safe for Work by Nishe Tuley. Yep,
I've actually met Nisha. She's a lovely human and I
asked her if she would be on our podcast at
some point and she may have agreed. So very very exciting.
The book actually isn't out yet. It comes out tomorrow

(55:35):
on the twenty first, and I'm super excited to read it.
I mean, the last book series she wrote was very
much like romanticy fantasy, So if you haven't read anything
by her, please check her out. She's a great author.
I really really enjoy reading her books, so I am
really excited for the new book to come out. Amaz

(55:55):
And then the last book that I'm reading actually is
it's called Submit by Sonnet and it's actually more of
a memoir, which I find very interesting as I'm going
to pull it back up so I can actually tell
you more about it. But it is a little bit

(56:18):
of like not a controversial kind of book or topic.
But she is a writer. She's a professional with a
wide network of important people, and essentially it's kind of
how what she is kind of on the outside. Oh,
I keep hitting this, like who she is and like
who she portrays herself, that professional woman, and then kind

(56:41):
of that inside of like okay, at home, this is
how I am, or like in my relationship, this is
how I am. And it's essentially like a stunning While
I'm reading this off of here, I haven't read it,
so I can't say it from my opinion, but it
says that it is a vivid, electric, stunning account of
HOWO how one woman gets her kicks. It's all true,

(57:03):
and it's an experience that can be missed. All we
ask is that you submit. So it might be spicy,
but at the same time, I feel like it's an
interesting way to look at things right where it's like
a person on the outside can be this strong, dominant
like person in a very big, professional way. And yeah,

(57:25):
I just think it's cool. And maybe that makes me
sound like I'm kinky. I don't know, but I just
I don't judgment here. Yeah, I just think that it's
a cool memoir. Like I find it intriguing. Ooh, I
like that, So we'll just trade books.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
We're just gonna trade books. That's perfect.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I think it's wild and yeah, okay, so now let's
kind of introduce what we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Okay, so not that kind of book club, is actually
a bit of a book club. So book number one
that we are going to be reading we would love
for you to join in on us is just for
the summer, Abby Yumeniz.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
I know a lot of you have probably read it
already because it was released probably like a little bit ago.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Wasn't it is that within this last spring, and.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I felt that this is actually probably a good book
going into the summer to read. And if anybody is curious,
we will talk about the book because, like we said,
we read it, so you don't have to. Even if
you've already read it, that's okay too, But the plan
is to kind of talk about it next time and

(58:35):
dive into the characters and what we loved and what
we hated. And I don't want to try to spoil
it too much for people, but I think that this
will be a fun way to kind of talk about
books in a different way. And who knows, we might
have an author coming soon, so make sure you stay
tuned because there are lots of fun, intriguing and what's

(59:00):
another word to describe this exciting, exciting things coming. So, yeah,
honest to god, this was wicked. I'm so excited to
kind of start this journey and we're going to talk
to everything books. We're going to have fun people coming on.
We have different topics and different things we're going to

(59:20):
talk about that. Everything's not just kind of the same thing,
but all in all, we're going to be reading books
and telling you about books, and we're going to go
from there.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
We're just loving on the books.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah, we're book people.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
We are book no I like it.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
We're bookworms.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
We are bookworms. And guess what you are too, if
you're part of this club. It is the not that
kind of book club podcast. Thank you so much for
tuning in. I'm ree, I'm less and we loved having
you here with us. Thank you so much for tuning in.
And again, thank you so much to producer Adam and
producer Gary for having us in studio. You will see

(01:00:00):
you guys next time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
See you later.
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