April 22, 2025 • 37 mins
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This week we talk about the infmaous serial killer Samuel Little. He claims to have murdered over 90 people from the years of 1975 - 2005.
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This week we talk about the infmaous serial killer Samuel Little. He claims to have murdered over 90 people from the years of 1975 - 2005.
This episode does include discussions of murders, and extreme violence. Just a heads up!
We were going to add this episode of youtube but unfortunately there were some technical difficulties and that will not be happening. So sorry!
If you are into true crime, this episode is for you!
Listen now!
Make sure to leave us a 5 star review, and tell a friend about the show.
If you want to suggest a topic for an upcoming show email us at NotableNostalgia90@Gmail.com or find us at Facebook.com/NotableNostalgia
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what's up, nostalgia nerds. I just won't let you know.
We are talking about a serial killer in this episode,
so we will be talking about death. We don't get
too graphic or into details or anything about that, but
we definitely do talk about the deaths, some of them,
not all of them. So just kind of giving you
giving you a warning on that one. And also, I
know we were kind of talking about how we were
(00:21):
going to get this episode up on YouTube. I apologize.
For some reason, I cannot get the video part to work, so.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
That's why I had to push this episode back.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So I do apologize, but thanks to your patients, and
hopefully we'll get some videos up on YouTube soon once
I figure out how to do that correctly. But anyways,
I hope you enjoyed the episode. And what if I
lost both my hands tomorrow, you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Could be a feat model. I was sixteen at the
time or fifteen, and then hook it up with a
witch and that was that. Cats can smile apparently, whoa weird,
but it doesn't always mean that they're happy.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Now, Lucy receives a call from what I can only
assume is the future winner of every acting award ever.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, Jennymane is a star. Her look looks weren't a
part of the issue.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
He's like, I had to sell my last top hat
for Gramas.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Maybe this is not appropriate either, but let's see.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Hey, what's uping nostalgia nerds, We have a killer episode
for you today.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh boom boom bones.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We're doing something a little bit different. I started another
podcast called Andy's Murder Radio, but it took a hiatus
because right when I started that one, we found out
that moving Forward is notable nostalgia. It was just gonna
be myself and Jeff, so I wanted to give it
some time and to figure out how we're gonna do this.
So this is the very first episode back of Andy's
Murder Radio. But it's also gonna be a Notable Nostalgie episode.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, and so are we on Notable Nostalgia or are
we on Andy's Radio.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
We're on both.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Fuh, that's multiverse.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So it's gonna be really crazy because if you listen
to this on Notable Nostalgia, it's gonna have our theme music.
But if you listen to it on Andy's Murder Radio
or YouTube, it's gonna have that theme music.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
If you're listening to it, not listen to it?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, currently, Well no, if you listened to the beginning.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh, if you listen to the beginning, we're killing it.
We're killing it, hey.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
But what we're gonna do is, I'm gonna talk about
a serial killer for anybody that doesn't listen, and at
the end, I have some ratings that we're gonna rate
him and see kind of where he is on the scale.
But we think it's a good serial killer. This is
my first time having a guest.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So Jeff doesn't know who I'm gonna talk about. He
has no idea. He's gonna kind of react in real time.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So your podcast is about serial killers like murderers and stuff. Cool.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I like this. But before we start, for the listeners
of Andy's Murder Radio, we have Jeff here hey, a
world known podcaster. Uh and he knows more about serial
killers than anybody else in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Mm hmmm. I know about fruity pebbles and that was
a low hanging fruit. It's a good one, thank you,
Simonto's Crunch. So that's what I'm bringing to the episode.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So I wanted to bring up this serial killer. I'm
not giving you the name yet, just because when we
think of serial killers, especially in America, we think of
a few like Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Dona, Wayne Gacy.
But this serial killer is from America. His last murder
was two thousand and five. He's killed ninety three people
(03:36):
and nobody I've talked to everybody, not one person's don
this person.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, I'm gonna try to guess with the question, sure you,
does this person have the ability to get to an
even hundred?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Not anymore?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Not anymore? Or But also that movie Saw continued on
after the killer died.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, I only saw Saw one really Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh, sault two is where bus off?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Really?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah? Mark Wahlberg, Donnie Wallberg from New Kids on the Block.
He's in it.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Weird Yeah, is it the same thing like they play games?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh my god, guess who's in it? Number two? This
is gonna blow everybody's fucking mind anymore. No, no, no, she
is famous Lucy from Seventh Heaven. Oh really yeah. So
if you want to see Lucy from Seventh spoiler alert, die,
watch this movie.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's Blonde one, the one with the.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Stupid Jimminy cricket phase. And if you So if you
want to watch her die but not actually kill her yet,
then then watch this movie. Yeah anyways, but she was
dating Jimmy Moon.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh yeah, Jimmy Moon's a star.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, anyways, throwback.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So this one is I'm just gonna so this Serira
killer's name is Samuel Little. Have you heard about this
guy before? I have not ninety three murders they have
confirmed over well, they've confirmed about thirteen of them, but
they're pretty sure they can connect sixty of them. But
he's admitted to ninety three, which is fucking crazy. And
if they can connect sixty, there's no reason for him
(05:12):
to lie about the other thirty. Like what like, you
started killing in nineteen seventy five. His last one was
in two thousand and five and then he got arrested.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So why do they keep investigating it if they already
got him?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well he's dead now, unfortunately, Yeah, he died in prison.
But they investig because I think there's a lot of
people that want to have closure for their family members.
I guess maybe makes them feel better.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So was he a good person? I would say no,
But like outside of outside of the serial killing.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I would also say no. He did a lot of
crimes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Like, did he hold the door open for people?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I'm gonna have to guess no, I mean maybe maybe
that's how we got in. But once we get to
the story, you're, oh, I think he's probably pretty shitty too.
Oh okay, So I'm just gonna start with the introduction.
So here we go. Samuel Little is considered one of
the most prolific serial killers in US history, having confessed
to murdering ninety three people between nineteen seventy five and
(06:12):
two thousand and five. His crimes went undetected for decades,
largely due to his choice of victims and the transient
nature of his lifestyle. Law enforcement has since verified at
least sixty of his confessions, with efforts continuing to confirm more.
But I guess why, I mean, what are they going
to gain from that?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Little's background, criminal activities, arrests, and the investigative work that
led to the uncovering of his horrific acts.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Now, so here's a.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Little beginning from his early life. He was born June seventh,
nineteen forty in Reynolds, Georgia. His mother, according to his accounts,
was a teenage sex worker, and he claimed to have
been born in prison because his mom was in jail
at the time. However, official records about his birth remain unclear,
so we don't one hundred percent know, but a lot
of during his time talking to the police, they believe
(07:03):
he had a kind of a photographic memory because one
thing they did was he doesn't remember people's names, but
he drew pictures of all his victims, and that's how
they were able to kind of tie together those sixty
plus cases because they saw they went back to like
where he lived murder victims at that time, and based
on the drawings he drew fifty years after the murder,
they were so close that they were like, Oh, it's
(07:24):
probably this person that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, he sounds really talented.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, maybe if he had a different upbringing.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So he was primarily raised by his grandmother because his
mother was a sex worker and she was in and
out of jail, in and out of trouble, and he
grew up in Ohio after his mother abandoned him. His
childhood was marked with instability, neglect, and behavioral issues. Little
struggled academically.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Too, exhibiting like, yeah, when was his birthday?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
June seventh.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So he's a Gemini that tracks.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, that's crazy. Do you know, like if I gave
you a date, would you be able to get.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
The oh only on certain star signs that I target? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
What about like February twenty fifth.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's my birthday? That means I'm emotional? Okay, I think
so let.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Me see here. He struggled academically, exhibiting difficulties in school
that led to frequent disciplinary actions. And so this is
the fourth episode of this, and every one of these
episodes I've done so far, for the most part, these
kids have had or these killers when they were kids.
They had difficult upbringings. So I do I'm not saying
that it's one hundred percent nurture. I do think there
(08:37):
is small cases where it's nature that causes people to
do this. But based on one hundred percent of the
people that I've talked about so far, they've all had
horrible upbringings to where I think if they had some love,
people cared about them, maybe wouldn't turn out this way.
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So like Jason foro He's from Friday the thirteenth, was
that that was nature and nurture.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Is that the one at the camp.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, because his mom was the killer in the first one,
so he learned probably a lot from that. True, But
then also he didn't have the best childhood, So I
don't know. I like, was it nature and nurture? I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well again for the last time, that's not a documentary.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh outside bar, I've been staring at the camera sometimes,
so like that might be creepy.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh and I just realized I've been staring at you
like this whole time.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's good because like you're talking, I'm just looking at
the camera and on my back and forth. Oh yeah,
I'm gonna try that took.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Let's do it at the same time.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Ready, Dimmi Lovado. Oh wait, no, here, try this watch
Dimmi Lovato. I didn't know a thing.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
For people that are listening right now, they go, what
Oh if you want to see this, go to YouTube.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, it was pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So from an early age, he displayed signs of violent
tendencies and a fascination with physical dominance, not a good
sign if you're a kid, you know. Report suggested that
he engage in petty thing did minor assault as a child.
He frequently clashed with authority figures and often ran away
from home, which there is again I'm shown probably a
bad home life, which I think leads to a lot
of these issues. Unfortunately, let me see, he frequently clashed
(10:15):
with authority. Do you do By his teenage years, he had
numerous run ins with the law, including arrest for theft, assault,
and truancy And that's one time he was sent to
like this boy's home. And as of right now, the
last report I was able to find was in twenty fifteen.
Minors in those type of situations ten percent of them
(10:36):
reported some kind of sexual abuse, So that's in twenty fifteen,
and that's just the people coming forward, right. So if
this was taking place, he was born in nineteen forty,
so he's probably in the fifties when it was horrible.
They didn't have like as many rules as they do
now about like protecting children. They didn't know a lot
of the mental issues going on, so they would just
treat them like shit. So my point is, I think
(10:58):
there's a very good chance that he was probably assaulted
while he was in that boy's home too.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And even this is like still going on because they
just recently I think it was like late last year
or early this year passed a bill in Congress and
the President signed it about more regulations when it comes
to those like boarding school like behavioral boarding schools. And
you know what celebrity spearheaded the bill.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Let me guess that's gonna be someone weird, Kathy Griffin.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, but uh, Paris Hilton.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Oh oh, she went to one of those things.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
She got up and she got abused, and so I
just thought that was really I was like, wow, damn it,
she's like amazing a human. So I watched an interview
with her about the bill passing, and she gave like
all the credit to herself. I'm like, yeah, definitely put
yourself on the back, Paris Hilton, but like do it
for the survivors, you know whatever. But but whom I
(11:54):
had passed judgment on Paris Hilton.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
But I do think that show is a valid point too,
because she is super duper rich, and if someone like
that could get abused, who knows what's happening to the
kids that don't have anybody to talk, you know, like
it's probably way worse.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
There's a clip page. Yeah, there's a clip that I'm
not sure if you can pull it or not of
Paris Hilton testifying at Congress, and she's the clip starts
with her here, and if you play it or not.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
What specifically do you think we could do to add
mental health and counseling support and how do we how
can we incorporate that in the bill along with trying
to meet the goals that are already in this ree authorization.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, thank you. I enjoyed our zoom call and I
love your jacket. The sparkles are amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I had a little bling here for today.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yes, I wanted to find out who made it later,
but I think the most important thing is they need
access to therapy, counseling, mentorship, and other community based programs.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Dang crazy, Yeah, let me tell you what it was. Yeah,
tell me what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh so edited it so it's about she's chatting with
like one of the congress people like I love your jacket,
is so pretty or something like that, and then then
she's like, I love your jacket. And the really intense
thing right now is to support our kids and we
have to take away the beuse and like it just
went straight. It is so great.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Away gangster, his affinity for crime and violence is deepened
as he grew older, and he found himself frequently incarcerated
in juvenile detention centers, which we just kind of talked about.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I should just finish that whole paragraph, I interrupted, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That's pretty cool looking. In addition to his criminal activities,
Little developed a disturbing fixation on women's necks that is
very disturbing.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, don't get me started on neck well, because.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Some people say it started as early as kindergarten. He
said he saw a kindergarten teacher and her neck and
that's the first time he felt like aroused and stuff.
And I'm like, if you're in kindergarten, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I feel like I'm disturbed, not disturbed, but I'm very
like not into necks just because they hold. I think
it's an issue with our evolution because there's so much
important stuff neck up on your body, and I think
that your neck is so vulnerable. So I think that
maybe we need to have different types of necks, like
(14:22):
with more bone in.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Them, or we can invent a neck protector. Do they
have neck braces for like, We'll get Wu Tang to sponsor.
It's called protection you.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Neck because most well most neck braces are for like
reactive use if we come out with like a notable
nostalgia Andy's pod. I think Andy's Murder podcast because it
could also help you not get your throat slashed or
choke to death or choked to death.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, so we're sponsored by Twisted Tea this episode.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
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Speaker 1 (15:07):
Man? That's good. God, damn, that's good tea.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
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Speaker 1 (15:16):
So the neck would later become a key element and
in his murder. In his method of killing, he reportedly
fantasized about stregulation from a young age, which he later
admitted played a role in his crimes.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, okay, that goes hand in hand for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Despite his troubled youth, he briefly attempted to integrate into society,
taking odd jobs, including working as an ambulance attendant. You'll
have to go to school for that back then, I guess.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
So, is he wanting to do that to get more
access to the victims or is he trying to get
like that pleasure, Like somebody who like doesn't have sex
organs at all, they still want to get lapdands of
the strip club. Oh sure, like if you were castrated,
you still want to see titties, right, I.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Don't know, no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I've never asked you that.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I've never had time to even think about that the
first time I ever thought about it. He is also
a cey work cemetery worker. However, his criminal tendency soon
overpowered any attempt at his stable life, leading him down
a path of persistent law breaking. So here are some
(16:30):
of his criminal activities little known m O intense. Yes,
remember like ninety three people.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
This is the law, Okay, I mean I I'm therefore it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So little's known. Modus operendi, which is an m O
involved targeting vulnerable women, particularly those involved in prostitution, drug use,
or living impoverished conditions. He would often lure his victims
into his vehicle, overpower them, and strangle them to death,
avoiding the use of weapons to prevent detectable evidence. Because
(17:04):
nineteen eighty nine was the first time I believe someone
got arrested for DNA evidence with a murder or they
use that in a trial to convict someone. So he's
doing this from seventy five to eighty nine, and that's
the very first one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh, so he didn't even know about all the STDs
he could have gotten. Yeah, exactly, he would have been
better off like Rapian suburban women.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, he even talks about how he would never try
to target white women or people that were because he goes,
that's the people that people care about. That's so horrible, right, Yeah,
so sad.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know that we do a comedy podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
This is a little I should have probably said at
the beginning of this.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I talk about we could have maybe done like a
sprinkle in some fantasy, like what kind of thing like
like this is based on true events, and then by
saying that you can legally, you know, add some like
he meant.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
He was half pterodactyl.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, or he was like a like a one of
those half horrors, half like a centaurs. Yeah, he could
be a centaur and she could be like a fairy.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah. That uh probably for the family, for the family
of Xena Marie Jones, I probably have really enjoyed that.
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, that's gonna see.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Many of his crimes were unsolved due to the lack
of forensic evidence and the marginalization of his victims, leading
authorities to misclassify many of the deaths as an overdose
or natural causes, which means they just didn't care, because
I don't think you could strangle someone to death and
be like, oh I think and she's like thirty, Oh
she just died from natural causes, you know what I mean?
(18:48):
Like they just didn't care.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I always say natural causes. Sounds like nature causes.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Sure, yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Died by tripping on like a log fell on her.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, I was uh ill doing research for this. One
of the police that did these investigations, now that he's
retired and stuff, he goes, if there was like a
prostitute or someone of color and they got murdered, for
all intents and purposes, they didn't get murdered like God damn.
In nineteen sixty one, Little was sentenced to three years
in prison for breaking into a furniture store. He was
(19:15):
released in nineteen sixty four. By nineteen seventy five, he
had been arrested twenty six times in eleven states for
crimes including theft, assault, attempted rape, fraud, and attacks on government.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Officially, God, this is in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Multiple places all over the country. He keeps moving all
that thing. If you don't have a tie to anybody
and you're just moving around constantly killing people, it's really
hard to find, you know, especially before DNA evidence and shit.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So like when people like rich college students and they
get out of college, they like, I'm going to backpack
through Europe.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
If I hear that, I'm gonna be like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Probably strangled someone to do.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, Kenneth is killing somebody.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Likely.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, that movie Hostile, I haven't seen that one. Yeah,
I heard. It's kind of like solid, right, like tourists
go to another kind tree, stay in a hostile and
then bad the hostile things happened to them.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think that was Wait, it's not hostile things. It's
hostile like where you live.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But I think it's almost like a play on.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Words though maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, So it's hard to watch. But there's never like
a chubby guy. So I'm fine, like, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
In nineteen eighty two, Little was arrested in Pascagoula. I
believe that's in Florida. Oh no, it says Mississippi. If
I would have read one more word. So he was
arrested in Mississippi and he faced charges for the murder
of twenty two year old Melinda rose La Prix. But
if you realize I said nineteen eighty two, his last
murder is in two thousand and five. What's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I thought prostitutes had names like sentiment and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, I think they're using her real name. Oh probably
not like okay uh. She had gone missing in September
of that year. A grand jury declined to indict him
for the murder. However, while under investigation, Little was extradited
to Florida and tried for the murder of twenty six
year old Patricia Ann Mount, whose body has been found.
(21:07):
Whose body was found in September of eighty two. Prosecution
witnesses identified Little incore as a person who had spent
time with her on the night before she disappeared, but
due to the mistrust of witness testimonies, he was acquitted
in nineteen eighty four. And the mistrust was this person
had a history of drug use and was a prostitute.
So they were going to believe the people that said
(21:29):
we saw him the night she was murdered, And they're like, ah,
but you do drugs, black, you get out of here,
you know what? I mean, like they're not gonna listen
to her.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I think we should organize the strippers in prostitutes and
sex workers and unionize. Yeah, which is I think very
go on strike, Like I think that the oldest profession
needs to be unilonz. I'm gonna swallow my spit holdon.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Little moved to California, where he stayed in the vicinity
of San Diego. In October nineteen eighty four, he was
arrested for kidnapping, beating, and strangling another twenty two year
old named Lori Barrows. She survived. One month later, he
was found by police in the backseat of his car
with an unconscious woman, also beaten and strangled, in the
(22:12):
same location. He tried to do it to murder Borrows.
Little served two and a half years in prison for
both crimes. That's it, and he's already been tried for
murder and rape and strangulation.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You know what if if this would have happened like
in you know, a tropical location or whatever, I'm sure
this guy would have enjoyed after a day of murder,
getting the ice cold twisted tea.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So, when your life is hard, your arthritis is kicking
in from all of the murder. Give yourself a little
mini vacation even if you can't.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, we call it a mini vacation and a can.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Can casi ca ca. Anyways, twisted tea, it's good enough
for me. I gotta go pee.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Not really though, upon his upon his release of nineteen
eighty seven, he immediately moved to Los Angeles and committed
at least ten additional murders.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh my god, if he had a punch card, got
it free. Murder right now.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Little was arrested on September fifth, twenty twelve, at a
homeless shelter in Louisville, Kentucky. Why'd you say because houses
no like or because this run of terror feel like?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I feel like a homeless shelter should be like a
church or a synagogue. We're kind of like a save
space from law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
He was extra righted to California to face a narcotic charge,
after which authority used DNA testing to establish that he
was involved in the murders of Linda Alford in nineteen
eighty seven, Guadaloupe A Daca killed also in nineteen eighty seven,
and Audrey Nelson Everett killed in nineteen eighty nine. All
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three women were killed and later found on the streets
of Los Angeles. He was extradited to LA where he
was charged on January seventh, twenty thirteen. A few months later,
the police said that Little was being investigated for involvement
in three dozen other murders committed in the eighties, which
until then had been undisclosed. In connection with the new
circumstances in Mississippi, the La pre murder case was reopened.
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In total, Little was arrested for involvement in ninety three
murders of women in many states.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Talk about Nope, talk about your work ethic.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That is true. You know, I committed if this was
a hobby.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It's not like it was truly an obsession hobby.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, Sometimes I get into a hobby. In like three
weeks later, I'm like, I'm not gonna paint that. Sure.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
My cousin. My cousins used to collect PETZ dispensers, like hundreds.
That's somebody to look at for serial killer shit. Yeah,
like not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Signs about his PEZ dispensing. I'm just kidding. So, following
his conviction, Little began cooperating with investigators, eventually confessing to
ninety three murders across multiple states.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh sad.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
His confessions were shockingly detailed, and he even provided sketches
of his victims, aiding in their identification. The FBI played
a significant role in verifying his claims, using forensic analysis
and corroborating details with unsolved cases. So these are just some.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Of the If I had to draw my victims, I
haven't ever killed the namebody, it never will. But if
I had to draw my it'd be like a stick figure.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, right, I guess he was. Actually, if you look
at the drawings, are actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's so sad. Did you draw them alive or dead?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well? Some of them, well, some of them it looks
like the people looking at it. It looks like how
people's eyes look after they've been killed. I'm like, fuck,
that's heavy.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
That's crazy, because you can't just take pictures.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So if you're eighty two, you'd have to get him
developed somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Have done something different like not no, not like not
drawing them, Like what else could he do because he
can't them. Sculpting would have been good.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Animation, stop claimation.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That would be good.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
What motion?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
What's those Marrionette puppets.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Oh yeah, I could have done that. Yeah, so maybe
interpretive dance.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Also, did he have a costume, because like that Jane
Wayne Geese guy or whatever did He's associated with clowns,
So I think that would elevate your notoriety if you
were a serial killer and you had a gimmick.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Well see, actually I think, well, okay, we'll talk about
this after. But I have a reason. I think he's
not very important.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh is this like inappropriate? No, I just think that
everybody could use a little construct. I'm against serial killing
and killing in general, kind of less serial killing.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well what Abraham Lincoln said, whatever you do, make sure
you're the best at it. So I guess, if you're
going to commit to serial kill, I guess be the best.
That's what Abraham Lincoln wants you to do, not me.
Abraham Lincoln said.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I think that serial killers should have like a teammate,
like a partner. Sure, because then one of them can
be in charge of like the aftermath, because I think
you guys got to take turns. Because where serial killers
fall short is they after it's done, they don't clean
up as well. Yeah, so they're all about the thrill
of it.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And you need some of that. Just loves cleaning, yeah, yeah,
and then that'd be a great team. Do you like cleaning?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So I think the murder first, yeah, because they like
I love cleaning, but they're like, next question.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
How do you feel about murderers?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Little admitted to ninety three different murders in total, and
sixty deaths have been formally connected to him by the police.
The majority of Little's victims for sex workers, substance users, uh,
and houseless individuals, most of them were female. He claimed
that he thought these persons would leave fewer clues for
authorities to find and leave fewer persons to search for them. Okay,
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because their houseless and on drugs and stuff like that.
Here's the thing, though, I lived with a girl. I
have had a girl roommate, like women roommates, and I
grew up with a sister. Don't kill women. Stop killing women.
Their hair is like fucking everywhere. Yeah, like you're asking
for trouble.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So don't kill men either, But don't kill women, like
because you're gonna get caught. Yeah, because their hair comes
out anywhere, and then they scratch you. They scratch you
with the nails and then that's gonna leave DNA evidence.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeap under their finger nails.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, see to get rid of their
head and their and their hands.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Despite the broad scope of his offending, Little was charged
with and convicted of, only eight murders in total. Asis
cases had the strongest evidence of guilt, but he did
say he did more. So I don't I don't really
like talking about all the victims. I have a list.
You should look them up. It's just because I don't
think it should be remembered for this specific thing. But
I uh, there's I got just so thirty two, twenty one,
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forty one, thirty five, forty six, thirty thirty two, and thirty.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Two, thirty six, twenty two, thirty six. Only she's five
left the line.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, only she's five two or something.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, But I'm just saying, so, think about how young
all of those people are. Every single one of them
are younger than us, except for one or two like us.
Love the convicted ones. Oh my god, imagine like twenty
one so young.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, but now they'd be old and as shit.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
True. Yeah, yeah, eighty four. That means she was born
in sixty three. Sad, Yeah, she's in.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Sixty sixty two, but people are living so long. Well,
obviously she if she wasn't killed, she would be probably
a lot a little older.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, uh so most of them are the same kind
of story though. He would like encounter them at the
bar or go where all the prostitutes were, talk them
into coming into his car, and then he would essentially
just choke them to death, rate them, and then he
would just throw their bodies out too. He would even
try to hide them because he knew them being of color,
them being of doing prostitute stuff, working and drug things.
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He knows that the family probably gave up on them.
If it's not like a pretty white young girl, the
media is not going to care and the cops aren't
going to spend too much time on if nobody gives
a fuck. So he knew exactly what he was doing,
which is really scary within itself too.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well, And I don't know when this comes out. This
episode comes out in conjunction to the last Nugget episode
with that we recorded for Notable Nostalgia. But if it
was us and we picked up a prostitute, we would
just take her to a house party. We wouldn't kill her. Yeah,
And I think the kind of person that I would
hang out with if they were a prostitute. And we're
all prostitutes to capitalism. Oh yeah, aos aos anyways, Oh
(30:43):
that's such a bummer. Yeah, so his uh turned out
different for pretty woman.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I haven't seen it. She was a.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Prostitute with that Richard Gear.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well, we don't happen to Richard Gear. Samuel Little's case
shed light on systematic or systemic failures and tracking serial killers,
especially those who target marginalized individuals. His ability to elude
capture for decades highlighted deficiencies law enforcement communication, and the
need for improved methods in solving cold cases. Authorities continue
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to investigate his confessions, confessions working to provide closure for
the families of the victims. So Samuel Little's crimes remain
a grim chapter in American criminal history. His confessions have
rewritten the narrative of serial murder investigations, emphasizing the importance
of reassessing overlooked cases. While his death in December twenty
twenty ended his ran of terror, the pursuit of justice
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for his victims continues, ensuring that their stories are not forgotten.
And I think one reason this person isn't more known
is because he's black.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
So we don't want to talk about the survivor or
not the survivors. They're victims because they died, because like
outside of the murder by a serial killer, what would
they have to talk about, like being hookers?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well, what about before that happened? We don't know their story,
what if maybe they could be babies, Maybe we don't know.
Maybe some of them were great at like playing the piano,
but then something bad happened, you know what I mean?
You never know they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Too much just because their sister was good at piano,
because if you're not a pianist, you're sucking pianists.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
He oh nice, the movie is great The Pianist.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
But honestly, honest to god, though we are joking, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Which is this horrible? You almost kind of have to
joke about it. You don't have to, of course, but
like it just it's it just seems so unfathomable, fathom fathomable,
but all to me, like that shit can happen to
someone you know, or you know what I mean, Yeah,
it's easier to joke about it, to talk about.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It, and also to we're exposing people who might not
be exposed to murder, because if you're listening to a
podcast or or whatever, your life's probably pretty good, like
you're not working like two jobs and like, you know,
getting well.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Some people probably are kind of weirded out too, because
our last episode we were like talking about POGs. We're
talking about murders and stuff. So at the end of
these episodes, though, I have a few things I like
to rank them by, and then we give them an
overall score.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh, like how good the murder was?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Well them in general, So like, okay, so what would
you rank their brutality level from one through ten?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Brutality, No, I'm gonna go four, because like they got
the job done clearly, but they were more about quality
quantity and not quality.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
See I went ten just because almost every single one
was the same and it was choking to death, and
I feel like that to do that to ninety three people,
you have to it's pretty brutal. And then and there's
more people that got out that didn't he thought were
dead but weren't dead. And then just tossing a body
out of a car, just the the level of not
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giving a fuck. I think I gave it a ten.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Actually, Oh, I think I've been desensitized because I've watched
so much horror movies that I see like Saw or
Hostile or Candy Man or Child's Play. Like I'm thinking,
like every the killer needs to kill them in a creative,
very theatrical way. But I guess, yeah, choking is just
so predictable.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
What about his social impact?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Social impact? I would say he hasn't made a huge impact.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Same. I gave him a two because everybody I've talked
about nobody, not one person's known this name.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I'm gonna say, I'll say it. I'll say it three
because you did enough research to find out about him
if you didn't already know about him, and he has
the potential to grow because maybe the next generation will
be like, hey, this kid is crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
What about victim count?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Victim count, that's high. I would say a nine. Nine
because he was so close to one hundred.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
That's true. So it's the most though in American history. Right,
if you don't if you would have got one hundred,
then oh, if.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You don't count when our president and the leaders did
on nine to eleven, su nickname, nickname, I already forgot
what it was he didn't have a nickname. Again, one
think of a cool nickname called like the choker, strangler
man or something, you know, chokes and then looks. Chokes
might be bad for like the reporters, right, like the
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b l T murderer, remember that one.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, b t K.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I do love the thought that t K. Yeah, but
I do love the b LT murder. Somebody would. So
this is his looks pass. I gave him a two
one looks.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I bet he would be like a fun grandpa. This
is when if he wasn't a murderer, you know. Yeah,
now that's something.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That's why I gave him a two.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Okay, smash smash younger, smash pass older because he didn't
have all the baggage back then.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Well that's his first arrest, so he probably already killed.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah yeah, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Gonna put the pictures up to the ones I'm showing
Jeff right here. So here's a picture.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Of my dog. Hell yeah yeah, badass guess guts underscore
the dog on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Well I guess. Until next time. I'm Andy Little.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
And thank you for having me. I'm a Jeff killer.
Jeff killer. Damn it. That was good. Do you have
a catchphrase for signing off murdering the next time? It
Toby Maguire, Toby nice, fucking Toby Maguire.
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Speaker 2 (36:43):
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Speaker 1 (36:45):
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you on the flip side, nostalgia nerds.
Hey, what's up, nostalgia nerds. I just won't let you know.
We are talking about a serial killer in this episode,
so we will be talking about death. We don't get
too graphic or into details or anything about that, but
we definitely do talk about the deaths, some of them,
not all of them. So just kind of giving you
giving you a warning on that one. And also, I
know we were kind of talking about how we were
(00:21):
going to get this episode up on YouTube. I apologize.
For some reason, I cannot get the video part to work, so.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
That's why I had to push this episode back.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So I do apologize, but thanks to your patients, and
hopefully we'll get some videos up on YouTube soon once
I figure out how to do that correctly. But anyways,
I hope you enjoyed the episode. And what if I
lost both my hands tomorrow, you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Could be a feat model. I was sixteen at the
time or fifteen, and then hook it up with a
witch and that was that. Cats can smile apparently, whoa weird,
but it doesn't always mean that they're happy.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Now, Lucy receives a call from what I can only
assume is the future winner of every acting award ever.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, Jennymane is a star. Her look looks weren't a
part of the issue.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
He's like, I had to sell my last top hat
for Gramas.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Maybe this is not appropriate either, but let's see.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Hey, what's uping nostalgia nerds, We have a killer episode
for you today.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh boom boom bones.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We're doing something a little bit different. I started another
podcast called Andy's Murder Radio, but it took a hiatus
because right when I started that one, we found out
that moving Forward is notable nostalgia. It was just gonna
be myself and Jeff, so I wanted to give it
some time and to figure out how we're gonna do this.
So this is the very first episode back of Andy's
Murder Radio. But it's also gonna be a Notable Nostalgie episode.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, and so are we on Notable Nostalgia or are
we on Andy's Radio.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
We're on both.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Fuh, that's multiverse.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So it's gonna be really crazy because if you listen
to this on Notable Nostalgia, it's gonna have our theme music.
But if you listen to it on Andy's Murder Radio
or YouTube, it's gonna have that theme music.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
If you're listening to it, not listen to it?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, currently, Well no, if you listened to the beginning.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh, if you listen to the beginning, we're killing it.
We're killing it, hey.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
But what we're gonna do is, I'm gonna talk about
a serial killer for anybody that doesn't listen, and at
the end, I have some ratings that we're gonna rate
him and see kind of where he is on the scale.
But we think it's a good serial killer. This is
my first time having a guest.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So Jeff doesn't know who I'm gonna talk about. He
has no idea. He's gonna kind of react in real time.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So your podcast is about serial killers like murderers and stuff. Cool.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I like this. But before we start, for the listeners
of Andy's Murder Radio, we have Jeff here hey, a
world known podcaster. Uh and he knows more about serial
killers than anybody else in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Mm hmmm. I know about fruity pebbles and that was
a low hanging fruit. It's a good one, thank you,
Simonto's Crunch. So that's what I'm bringing to the episode.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So I wanted to bring up this serial killer. I'm
not giving you the name yet, just because when we
think of serial killers, especially in America, we think of
a few like Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Dona, Wayne Gacy.
But this serial killer is from America. His last murder
was two thousand and five. He's killed ninety three people
(03:36):
and nobody I've talked to everybody, not one person's don
this person.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, I'm gonna try to guess with the question, sure you,
does this person have the ability to get to an
even hundred?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Not anymore?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Not anymore? Or But also that movie Saw continued on
after the killer died.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, I only saw Saw one really Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh, sault two is where bus off?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Really?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah? Mark Wahlberg, Donnie Wallberg from New Kids on the Block.
He's in it.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Weird Yeah, is it the same thing like they play games?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh my god, guess who's in it? Number two? This
is gonna blow everybody's fucking mind anymore. No, no, no, she
is famous Lucy from Seventh Heaven. Oh really yeah. So
if you want to see Lucy from Seventh spoiler alert, die,
watch this movie.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's Blonde one, the one with the.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Stupid Jimminy cricket phase. And if you So if you
want to watch her die but not actually kill her yet,
then then watch this movie. Yeah anyways, but she was
dating Jimmy Moon.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh yeah, Jimmy Moon's a star.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, anyways, throwback.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So this one is I'm just gonna so this Serira
killer's name is Samuel Little. Have you heard about this
guy before? I have not ninety three murders they have
confirmed over well, they've confirmed about thirteen of them, but
they're pretty sure they can connect sixty of them. But
he's admitted to ninety three, which is fucking crazy. And
if they can connect sixty, there's no reason for him
(05:12):
to lie about the other thirty. Like what like, you
started killing in nineteen seventy five. His last one was
in two thousand and five and then he got arrested.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So why do they keep investigating it if they already
got him?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well he's dead now, unfortunately, Yeah, he died in prison.
But they investig because I think there's a lot of
people that want to have closure for their family members.
I guess maybe makes them feel better.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So was he a good person? I would say no,
But like outside of outside of the serial killing.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I would also say no. He did a lot of
crimes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Like, did he hold the door open for people?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I'm gonna have to guess no, I mean maybe maybe
that's how we got in. But once we get to
the story, you're, oh, I think he's probably pretty shitty too.
Oh okay, So I'm just gonna start with the introduction.
So here we go. Samuel Little is considered one of
the most prolific serial killers in US history, having confessed
to murdering ninety three people between nineteen seventy five and
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two thousand and five. His crimes went undetected for decades,
largely due to his choice of victims and the transient
nature of his lifestyle. Law enforcement has since verified at
least sixty of his confessions, with efforts continuing to confirm more.
But I guess why, I mean, what are they going
to gain from that?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Little's background, criminal activities, arrests, and the investigative work that
led to the uncovering of his horrific acts.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Now, so here's a.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Little beginning from his early life. He was born June seventh,
nineteen forty in Reynolds, Georgia. His mother, according to his accounts,
was a teenage sex worker, and he claimed to have
been born in prison because his mom was in jail
at the time. However, official records about his birth remain unclear,
so we don't one hundred percent know, but a lot
of during his time talking to the police, they believe
(07:03):
he had a kind of a photographic memory because one
thing they did was he doesn't remember people's names, but
he drew pictures of all his victims, and that's how
they were able to kind of tie together those sixty
plus cases because they saw they went back to like
where he lived murder victims at that time, and based
on the drawings he drew fifty years after the murder,
they were so close that they were like, Oh, it's
(07:24):
probably this person that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, he sounds really talented.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, maybe if he had a different upbringing.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So he was primarily raised by his grandmother because his
mother was a sex worker and she was in and
out of jail, in and out of trouble, and he
grew up in Ohio after his mother abandoned him. His
childhood was marked with instability, neglect, and behavioral issues. Little
struggled academically.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Too, exhibiting like, yeah, when was his birthday?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
June seventh.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So he's a Gemini that tracks.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, that's crazy. Do you know, like if I gave
you a date, would you be able to get.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
The oh only on certain star signs that I target? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
What about like February twenty fifth.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's my birthday? That means I'm emotional? Okay, I think
so let.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Me see here. He struggled academically, exhibiting difficulties in school
that led to frequent disciplinary actions. And so this is
the fourth episode of this, and every one of these
episodes I've done so far, for the most part, these
kids have had or these killers when they were kids.
They had difficult upbringings. So I do I'm not saying
that it's one hundred percent nurture. I do think there
(08:37):
is small cases where it's nature that causes people to
do this. But based on one hundred percent of the
people that I've talked about so far, they've all had
horrible upbringings to where I think if they had some love,
people cared about them, maybe wouldn't turn out this way.
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So like Jason foro He's from Friday the thirteenth, was
that that was nature and nurture.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Is that the one at the camp.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, because his mom was the killer in the first one,
so he learned probably a lot from that. True, But
then also he didn't have the best childhood, So I
don't know. I like, was it nature and nurture? I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well again for the last time, that's not a documentary.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh outside bar, I've been staring at the camera sometimes,
so like that might be creepy.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh and I just realized I've been staring at you
like this whole time.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's good because like you're talking, I'm just looking at
the camera and on my back and forth. Oh yeah,
I'm gonna try that took.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Let's do it at the same time.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Ready, Dimmi Lovado. Oh wait, no, here, try this watch
Dimmi Lovato. I didn't know a thing.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
For people that are listening right now, they go, what
Oh if you want to see this, go to YouTube.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, it was pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So from an early age, he displayed signs of violent
tendencies and a fascination with physical dominance, not a good
sign if you're a kid, you know. Report suggested that
he engage in petty thing did minor assault as a child.
He frequently clashed with authority figures and often ran away
from home, which there is again I'm shown probably a
bad home life, which I think leads to a lot
of these issues. Unfortunately, let me see, he frequently clashed
(10:15):
with authority. Do you do By his teenage years, he had
numerous run ins with the law, including arrest for theft, assault,
and truancy And that's one time he was sent to
like this boy's home. And as of right now, the
last report I was able to find was in twenty fifteen.
Minors in those type of situations ten percent of them
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reported some kind of sexual abuse, So that's in twenty fifteen,
and that's just the people coming forward, right. So if
this was taking place, he was born in nineteen forty,
so he's probably in the fifties when it was horrible.
They didn't have like as many rules as they do
now about like protecting children. They didn't know a lot
of the mental issues going on, so they would just
treat them like shit. So my point is, I think
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there's a very good chance that he was probably assaulted
while he was in that boy's home too.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And even this is like still going on because they
just recently I think it was like late last year
or early this year passed a bill in Congress and
the President signed it about more regulations when it comes
to those like boarding school like behavioral boarding schools. And
you know what celebrity spearheaded the bill.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Let me guess that's gonna be someone weird, Kathy Griffin.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, but uh, Paris Hilton.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Oh oh, she went to one of those things.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
She got up and she got abused, and so I
just thought that was really I was like, wow, damn it,
she's like amazing a human. So I watched an interview
with her about the bill passing, and she gave like
all the credit to herself. I'm like, yeah, definitely put
yourself on the back, Paris Hilton, but like do it
for the survivors, you know whatever. But but whom I
(11:54):
had passed judgment on Paris Hilton.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
But I do think that show is a valid point too,
because she is super duper rich, and if someone like
that could get abused, who knows what's happening to the
kids that don't have anybody to talk, you know, like
it's probably way worse.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
There's a clip page. Yeah, there's a clip that I'm
not sure if you can pull it or not of
Paris Hilton testifying at Congress, and she's the clip starts
with her here, and if you play it or not.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
What specifically do you think we could do to add
mental health and counseling support and how do we how
can we incorporate that in the bill along with trying
to meet the goals that are already in this ree authorization.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, thank you. I enjoyed our zoom call and I
love your jacket. The sparkles are amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I had a little bling here for today.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yes, I wanted to find out who made it later,
but I think the most important thing is they need
access to therapy, counseling, mentorship, and other community based programs.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Dang crazy, Yeah, let me tell you what it was. Yeah,
tell me what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh so edited it so it's about she's chatting with
like one of the congress people like I love your jacket,
is so pretty or something like that, and then then
she's like, I love your jacket. And the really intense
thing right now is to support our kids and we
have to take away the beuse and like it just
went straight. It is so great.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Away gangster, his affinity for crime and violence is deepened
as he grew older, and he found himself frequently incarcerated
in juvenile detention centers, which we just kind of talked about.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I should just finish that whole paragraph, I interrupted, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That's pretty cool looking. In addition to his criminal activities,
Little developed a disturbing fixation on women's necks that is
very disturbing.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, don't get me started on neck well, because.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Some people say it started as early as kindergarten. He
said he saw a kindergarten teacher and her neck and
that's the first time he felt like aroused and stuff.
And I'm like, if you're in kindergarten, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I feel like I'm disturbed, not disturbed, but I'm very
like not into necks just because they hold. I think
it's an issue with our evolution because there's so much
important stuff neck up on your body, and I think
that your neck is so vulnerable. So I think that
maybe we need to have different types of necks, like
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with more bone in.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Them, or we can invent a neck protector. Do they
have neck braces for like, We'll get Wu Tang to sponsor.
It's called protection you.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Neck because most well most neck braces are for like
reactive use if we come out with like a notable
nostalgia Andy's pod. I think Andy's Murder podcast because it
could also help you not get your throat slashed or
choke to death or choked to death.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
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Speaker 2 (14:55):
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Speaker 1 (15:07):
Man? That's good. God, damn, that's good tea.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
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Speaker 1 (15:16):
So the neck would later become a key element and
in his murder. In his method of killing, he reportedly
fantasized about stregulation from a young age, which he later
admitted played a role in his crimes.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, okay, that goes hand in hand for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Despite his troubled youth, he briefly attempted to integrate into society,
taking odd jobs, including working as an ambulance attendant. You'll
have to go to school for that back then, I guess.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
So, is he wanting to do that to get more
access to the victims or is he trying to get
like that pleasure, Like somebody who like doesn't have sex
organs at all, they still want to get lapdands of
the strip club. Oh sure, like if you were castrated,
you still want to see titties, right, I.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Don't know, no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I've never asked you that.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I've never had time to even think about that the
first time I ever thought about it. He is also
a cey work cemetery worker. However, his criminal tendency soon
overpowered any attempt at his stable life, leading him down
a path of persistent law breaking. So here are some
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of his criminal activities little known m O intense. Yes,
remember like ninety three people.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
This is the law, Okay, I mean I I'm therefore it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So little's known. Modus operendi, which is an m O
involved targeting vulnerable women, particularly those involved in prostitution, drug use,
or living impoverished conditions. He would often lure his victims
into his vehicle, overpower them, and strangle them to death,
avoiding the use of weapons to prevent detectable evidence. Because
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nineteen eighty nine was the first time I believe someone
got arrested for DNA evidence with a murder or they
use that in a trial to convict someone. So he's
doing this from seventy five to eighty nine, and that's
the very first one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh, so he didn't even know about all the STDs
he could have gotten. Yeah, exactly, he would have been
better off like Rapian suburban women.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, he even talks about how he would never try
to target white women or people that were because he goes,
that's the people that people care about. That's so horrible, right, Yeah,
so sad.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know that we do a comedy podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
This is a little I should have probably said at
the beginning of this.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I talk about we could have maybe done like a
sprinkle in some fantasy, like what kind of thing like
like this is based on true events, and then by
saying that you can legally, you know, add some like
he meant.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
He was half pterodactyl.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, or he was like a like a one of
those half horrors, half like a centaurs. Yeah, he could
be a centaur and she could be like a fairy.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah. That uh probably for the family, for the family
of Xena Marie Jones, I probably have really enjoyed that.
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, that's gonna see.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Many of his crimes were unsolved due to the lack
of forensic evidence and the marginalization of his victims, leading
authorities to misclassify many of the deaths as an overdose
or natural causes, which means they just didn't care, because
I don't think you could strangle someone to death and
be like, oh I think and she's like thirty, Oh
she just died from natural causes, you know what I mean?
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Like they just didn't care.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I always say natural causes. Sounds like nature causes.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Sure, yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Died by tripping on like a log fell on her.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, I was uh ill doing research for this. One
of the police that did these investigations, now that he's
retired and stuff, he goes, if there was like a
prostitute or someone of color and they got murdered, for
all intents and purposes, they didn't get murdered like God damn.
In nineteen sixty one, Little was sentenced to three years
in prison for breaking into a furniture store. He was
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released in nineteen sixty four. By nineteen seventy five, he
had been arrested twenty six times in eleven states for
crimes including theft, assault, attempted rape, fraud, and attacks on government.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Officially, God, this is in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Multiple places all over the country. He keeps moving all
that thing. If you don't have a tie to anybody
and you're just moving around constantly killing people, it's really
hard to find, you know, especially before DNA evidence and shit.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So like when people like rich college students and they
get out of college, they like, I'm going to backpack
through Europe.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
If I hear that, I'm gonna be like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Probably strangled someone to do.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, Kenneth is killing somebody.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Likely.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, that movie Hostile, I haven't seen that one. Yeah,
I heard. It's kind of like solid, right, like tourists
go to another kind tree, stay in a hostile and
then bad the hostile things happened to them.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think that was Wait, it's not hostile things. It's
hostile like where you live.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But I think it's almost like a play on.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Words though maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, So it's hard to watch. But there's never like
a chubby guy. So I'm fine, like, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
In nineteen eighty two, Little was arrested in Pascagoula. I
believe that's in Florida. Oh no, it says Mississippi. If
I would have read one more word. So he was
arrested in Mississippi and he faced charges for the murder
of twenty two year old Melinda rose La Prix. But
if you realize I said nineteen eighty two, his last
murder is in two thousand and five. What's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I thought prostitutes had names like sentiment and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, I think they're using her real name. Oh probably
not like okay uh. She had gone missing in September
of that year. A grand jury declined to indict him
for the murder. However, while under investigation, Little was extradited
to Florida and tried for the murder of twenty six
year old Patricia Ann Mount, whose body has been found.
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Whose body was found in September of eighty two. Prosecution
witnesses identified Little incore as a person who had spent
time with her on the night before she disappeared, but
due to the mistrust of witness testimonies, he was acquitted
in nineteen eighty four. And the mistrust was this person
had a history of drug use and was a prostitute.
So they were going to believe the people that said
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we saw him the night she was murdered, And they're like, ah,
but you do drugs, black, you get out of here,
you know what? I mean, like they're not gonna listen
to her.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I think we should organize the strippers in prostitutes and
sex workers and unionize. Yeah, which is I think very
go on strike, Like I think that the oldest profession
needs to be unilonz. I'm gonna swallow my spit holdon.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Little moved to California, where he stayed in the vicinity
of San Diego. In October nineteen eighty four, he was
arrested for kidnapping, beating, and strangling another twenty two year
old named Lori Barrows. She survived. One month later, he
was found by police in the backseat of his car
with an unconscious woman, also beaten and strangled, in the
(22:12):
same location. He tried to do it to murder Borrows.
Little served two and a half years in prison for
both crimes. That's it, and he's already been tried for
murder and rape and strangulation.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You know what if if this would have happened like
in you know, a tropical location or whatever, I'm sure
this guy would have enjoyed after a day of murder,
getting the ice cold twisted tea.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So, when your life is hard, your arthritis is kicking
in from all of the murder. Give yourself a little
mini vacation even if you can't.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, we call it a mini vacation and a can.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Can casi ca ca. Anyways, twisted tea, it's good enough
for me. I gotta go pee.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Not really though, upon his upon his release of nineteen
eighty seven, he immediately moved to Los Angeles and committed
at least ten additional murders.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh my god, if he had a punch card, got
it free. Murder right now.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Little was arrested on September fifth, twenty twelve, at a
homeless shelter in Louisville, Kentucky. Why'd you say because houses
no like or because this run of terror feel like?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I feel like a homeless shelter should be like a
church or a synagogue. We're kind of like a save
space from law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
He was extra righted to California to face a narcotic charge,
after which authority used DNA testing to establish that he
was involved in the murders of Linda Alford in nineteen
eighty seven, Guadaloupe A Daca killed also in nineteen eighty seven,
and Audrey Nelson Everett killed in nineteen eighty nine. All
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three women were killed and later found on the streets
of Los Angeles. He was extradited to LA where he
was charged on January seventh, twenty thirteen. A few months later,
the police said that Little was being investigated for involvement
in three dozen other murders committed in the eighties, which
until then had been undisclosed. In connection with the new
circumstances in Mississippi, the La pre murder case was reopened.
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In total, Little was arrested for involvement in ninety three
murders of women in many states.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Talk about Nope, talk about your work ethic.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That is true. You know, I committed if this was
a hobby.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It's not like it was truly an obsession hobby.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, Sometimes I get into a hobby. In like three
weeks later, I'm like, I'm not gonna paint that. Sure.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
My cousin. My cousins used to collect PETZ dispensers, like hundreds.
That's somebody to look at for serial killer shit. Yeah,
like not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Signs about his PEZ dispensing. I'm just kidding. So, following
his conviction, Little began cooperating with investigators, eventually confessing to
ninety three murders across multiple states.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh sad.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
His confessions were shockingly detailed, and he even provided sketches
of his victims, aiding in their identification. The FBI played
a significant role in verifying his claims, using forensic analysis
and corroborating details with unsolved cases. So these are just some.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Of the If I had to draw my victims, I
haven't ever killed the namebody, it never will. But if
I had to draw my it'd be like a stick figure.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, right, I guess he was. Actually, if you look
at the drawings, are actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's so sad. Did you draw them alive or dead?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well? Some of them, well, some of them it looks
like the people looking at it. It looks like how
people's eyes look after they've been killed. I'm like, fuck,
that's heavy.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
That's crazy, because you can't just take pictures.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So if you're eighty two, you'd have to get him
developed somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Have done something different like not no, not like not
drawing them, Like what else could he do because he
can't them. Sculpting would have been good.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Animation, stop claimation.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That would be good.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
What motion?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
What's those Marrionette puppets.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Oh yeah, I could have done that. Yeah, so maybe
interpretive dance.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Also, did he have a costume, because like that Jane
Wayne Geese guy or whatever did He's associated with clowns,
So I think that would elevate your notoriety if you
were a serial killer and you had a gimmick.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Well see, actually I think, well, okay, we'll talk about
this after. But I have a reason. I think he's
not very important.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh is this like inappropriate? No, I just think that
everybody could use a little construct. I'm against serial killing
and killing in general, kind of less serial killing.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well what Abraham Lincoln said, whatever you do, make sure
you're the best at it. So I guess, if you're
going to commit to serial kill, I guess be the best.
That's what Abraham Lincoln wants you to do, not me.
Abraham Lincoln said.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I think that serial killers should have like a teammate,
like a partner. Sure, because then one of them can
be in charge of like the aftermath, because I think
you guys got to take turns. Because where serial killers
fall short is they after it's done, they don't clean
up as well. Yeah, so they're all about the thrill
of it.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And you need some of that. Just loves cleaning, yeah, yeah,
and then that'd be a great team. Do you like cleaning?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So I think the murder first, yeah, because they like
I love cleaning, but they're like, next question.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
How do you feel about murderers?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Little admitted to ninety three different murders in total, and
sixty deaths have been formally connected to him by the police.
The majority of Little's victims for sex workers, substance users, uh,
and houseless individuals, most of them were female. He claimed
that he thought these persons would leave fewer clues for
authorities to find and leave fewer persons to search for them. Okay,
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because their houseless and on drugs and stuff like that.
Here's the thing, though, I lived with a girl. I
have had a girl roommate, like women roommates, and I
grew up with a sister. Don't kill women. Stop killing women.
Their hair is like fucking everywhere. Yeah, like you're asking
for trouble.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So don't kill men either, But don't kill women, like
because you're gonna get caught. Yeah, because their hair comes
out anywhere, and then they scratch you. They scratch you
with the nails and then that's gonna leave DNA evidence.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeap under their finger nails.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, see to get rid of their
head and their and their hands.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Despite the broad scope of his offending, Little was charged
with and convicted of, only eight murders in total. Asis
cases had the strongest evidence of guilt, but he did
say he did more. So I don't I don't really
like talking about all the victims. I have a list.
You should look them up. It's just because I don't
think it should be remembered for this specific thing. But
I uh, there's I got just so thirty two, twenty one,
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forty one, thirty five, forty six, thirty thirty two, and thirty.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Two, thirty six, twenty two, thirty six. Only she's five
left the line.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, only she's five two or something.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, But I'm just saying, so, think about how young
all of those people are. Every single one of them
are younger than us, except for one or two like us.
Love the convicted ones. Oh my god, imagine like twenty
one so young.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, but now they'd be old and as shit.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
True. Yeah, yeah, eighty four. That means she was born
in sixty three. Sad, Yeah, she's in.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Sixty sixty two, but people are living so long. Well,
obviously she if she wasn't killed, she would be probably
a lot a little older.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, uh so most of them are the same kind
of story though. He would like encounter them at the
bar or go where all the prostitutes were, talk them
into coming into his car, and then he would essentially
just choke them to death, rate them, and then he
would just throw their bodies out too. He would even
try to hide them because he knew them being of color,
them being of doing prostitute stuff, working and drug things.
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He knows that the family probably gave up on them.
If it's not like a pretty white young girl, the
media is not going to care and the cops aren't
going to spend too much time on if nobody gives
a fuck. So he knew exactly what he was doing,
which is really scary within itself too.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well, And I don't know when this comes out. This
episode comes out in conjunction to the last Nugget episode
with that we recorded for Notable Nostalgia. But if it
was us and we picked up a prostitute, we would
just take her to a house party. We wouldn't kill her. Yeah,
And I think the kind of person that I would
hang out with if they were a prostitute. And we're
all prostitutes to capitalism. Oh yeah, aos aos anyways, Oh
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that's such a bummer. Yeah, so his uh turned out
different for pretty woman.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I haven't seen it. She was a.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Prostitute with that Richard Gear.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well, we don't happen to Richard Gear. Samuel Little's case
shed light on systematic or systemic failures and tracking serial killers,
especially those who target marginalized individuals. His ability to elude
capture for decades highlighted deficiencies law enforcement communication, and the
need for improved methods in solving cold cases. Authorities continue
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to investigate his confessions, confessions working to provide closure for
the families of the victims. So Samuel Little's crimes remain
a grim chapter in American criminal history. His confessions have
rewritten the narrative of serial murder investigations, emphasizing the importance
of reassessing overlooked cases. While his death in December twenty
twenty ended his ran of terror, the pursuit of justice
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for his victims continues, ensuring that their stories are not forgotten.
And I think one reason this person isn't more known
is because he's black.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
So we don't want to talk about the survivor or
not the survivors. They're victims because they died, because like
outside of the murder by a serial killer, what would
they have to talk about, like being hookers?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well, what about before that happened? We don't know their story,
what if maybe they could be babies, Maybe we don't know.
Maybe some of them were great at like playing the piano,
but then something bad happened, you know what I mean?
You never know they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Too much just because their sister was good at piano,
because if you're not a pianist, you're sucking pianists.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
He oh nice, the movie is great The Pianist.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
But honestly, honest to god, though we are joking, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Which is this horrible? You almost kind of have to
joke about it. You don't have to, of course, but
like it just it's it just seems so unfathomable, fathom fathomable,
but all to me, like that shit can happen to
someone you know, or you know what I mean, Yeah,
it's easier to joke about it, to talk about.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It, and also to we're exposing people who might not
be exposed to murder, because if you're listening to a
podcast or or whatever, your life's probably pretty good, like
you're not working like two jobs and like, you know,
getting well.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Some people probably are kind of weirded out too, because
our last episode we were like talking about POGs. We're
talking about murders and stuff. So at the end of
these episodes, though, I have a few things I like
to rank them by, and then we give them an
overall score.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh, like how good the murder was?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Well them in general, So like, okay, so what would
you rank their brutality level from one through ten?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Brutality, No, I'm gonna go four, because like they got
the job done clearly, but they were more about quality
quantity and not quality.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
See I went ten just because almost every single one
was the same and it was choking to death, and
I feel like that to do that to ninety three people,
you have to it's pretty brutal. And then and there's
more people that got out that didn't he thought were
dead but weren't dead. And then just tossing a body
out of a car, just the the level of not
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giving a fuck. I think I gave it a ten.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Actually, Oh, I think I've been desensitized because I've watched
so much horror movies that I see like Saw or
Hostile or Candy Man or Child's Play. Like I'm thinking,
like every the killer needs to kill them in a creative,
very theatrical way. But I guess, yeah, choking is just
so predictable.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
What about his social impact?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Social impact? I would say he hasn't made a huge impact.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Same. I gave him a two because everybody I've talked
about nobody, not one person's known this name.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I'm gonna say, I'll say it. I'll say it three
because you did enough research to find out about him
if you didn't already know about him, and he has
the potential to grow because maybe the next generation will
be like, hey, this kid is crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
What about victim count?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Victim count, that's high. I would say a nine. Nine
because he was so close to one hundred.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
That's true. So it's the most though in American history. Right,
if you don't if you would have got one hundred,
then oh, if.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You don't count when our president and the leaders did
on nine to eleven, su nickname, nickname, I already forgot
what it was he didn't have a nickname. Again, one
think of a cool nickname called like the choker, strangler
man or something, you know, chokes and then looks. Chokes
might be bad for like the reporters, right, like the
(35:16):
b l T murderer, remember that one.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, b t K.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I do love the thought that t K. Yeah, but
I do love the b LT murder. Somebody would. So
this is his looks pass. I gave him a two
one looks.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I bet he would be like a fun grandpa. This
is when if he wasn't a murderer, you know. Yeah,
now that's something.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That's why I gave him a two.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Okay, smash smash younger, smash pass older because he didn't
have all the baggage back then.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Well that's his first arrest, so he probably already killed.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah yeah, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Gonna put the pictures up to the ones I'm showing
Jeff right here. So here's a picture.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Of my dog. Hell yeah yeah, badass guess guts underscore
the dog on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Well I guess. Until next time. I'm Andy Little.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
And thank you for having me. I'm a Jeff killer.
Jeff killer. Damn it. That was good. Do you have
a catchphrase for signing off murdering the next time? It
Toby Maguire, Toby nice, fucking Toby Maguire.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
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Speaker 2 (36:43):
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