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We do an impossible task! We each pick our top five favorite songs from the 2000's. I hope you are ready to boogy! Because this episode will get you dancing, moshing, crying, and perhaps even get you to consider what the meaning of life it. 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And what if I lost both my hands tomorrow you.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Could be a seat model star. I was sixteen at
the time or fifteen and uh, and then hook it
up with a witch and that was that. Cats can
smile apparently, whoa weird, But it doesn't always mean that
they're happy.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Lucy receives a call from what I can only assume
is the future winner of every acting award ever.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, Jenny Moon is a star. Her look looks weren't
a part of the issue.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
He's like, I had to sell my last top hat
for dramas.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Maybe this is not appropriate either, but we'll.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
See rocking roll, nostalgian nerds or whatever we choose today.
It might not be rock and roll, but today we
have a really cool episode. Instead of doing it by year,
we decided we're gonna choose our top five each favorite
songs from the year two thousand to two thousand and nine. Boom,

(01:07):
And I know for me, this was really difficult. Right
when we decided this, there was a few songs. Instantly
I knew what it was gonna be, But then there
was a few artists where I'm like, what song am
I gonna choose from this artist? But I feel like,
I did a pretty good list, but I also did
not the most famous songs. I did most impactful songs
for me personally.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh okay, okay, what about you? Mine was kind of
the opposite. I did songs that I that I think
made a really significant impact on my life.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, maybe I.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Like that's a pretty strong statement, but maybe not ones
that I would still listen to. But if I heard them,
I'd be like, hey, I'm nostalgic for those. Oh sure,
and then hence the you know name of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
So yeah, I wonder if maybe says something about me
because all of these songs I listened to all the time,
stuff like maybe I haven't grown very.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Much or you were so grown back then.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah. Now I'm just hitting my stride on where I
should be. Yeah. Yeah, everybody else is catching up. Yeah,
and a lot of these songs too. I feel like
both the ones I chose, I really don't know. If
there's four out of the five songs, I don't think
the average person's gonna know what they are.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I'm out to google google it. Yeah, let's get let's
get crack a loc in. Sure, what do you have
for your number five?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
For sure?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
He's got my friends.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh yeah, jet backs, y'all that close instinct to blood.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Dat he saw my friends?

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Oh yeah, j baslause, that's pretty rockin Yeah, so I
chose that song.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
That song is by a band called Black My Heart.
They're no longer around. They were from the They started
in the early two thousands, I think two thousand and two,
and they ended about two thousand and seven, which is
kind of sad because they didn't have you know, a
long term, you know, long term role. But I got

(03:11):
to see them live, which is really cool. Their banned
from Boston. They were into you know, they're hardcore band.
They're one of the biggest hardcore bands I think that
were out there around that time. They so being in
in the hardcore scene. It was all about like brotherhood
and stuff. And so I was in a hardcore group
called f FB in Portland. We had about sixty members

(03:32):
at the most of you know, at the height of
our whatever. But those shows can be very very violent
because there's there's hardcore dancing and a lot of people
say like, oh, you're just throwing fists around. You kind
of are, but there's nuances to it, so like if
the beads kind of fast, like a that's like a
two step part, So then everybody kind of the whole

(03:53):
crowd will just start two step in and then if
anybody starts throwing or starts washing during that time, you're
gonna get jumped, because that's you don't do it that time.
That clip, we heard the gang vocals, so when they
were saying these are my friends, I have their backs,
they are the closest thing to blood that I have,
the whole crowd will go up. The lead singer will
put the mic down, and everybody just grabs the mic

(04:14):
and they all try to sing it live. And so
it's a really violent kind of scary thing if you
don't know when to do something or how to do
it correctly. One of the coolest things ever is Hawthorn Theater.
I was going to a show one time and we
used to have hats and shirts and stuff that said FFB,
and there was a sign that said no FFB gear,
and I was like, Oh, that's fucking cool that we're

(04:35):
so disruptive that, you know, like a venue, a big
venue was like, you guys, can't have that shit in
here because it's like a gang and it gets too
violent sometimes the early two thousands, for the hardcore scene
in Portland was crazy violent. There was times where bands
weren't able to finish because fights broke out or maybe
someone got stabbed. And now that I'm an adult, like
a full adult, because I was going into the shows

(04:56):
when I was about sixteen to about twenty three ish,
but I used to go to like two three shows
like a week. It was awesome. But basically, now i'm
thinking about it, it was just West Side story because
there's like certain ways you dance at shows and if
you don't do it, and then style is huge when
it comes to hardcore shows. Like that's why I never
really two step because I didn't have a good style.
But like sometimes you're like, oh, that's fucking cool, shit looking,

(05:19):
you know, but we're there's a bunch of different kind
of gangs in Portland that were all hardcore crewis is
what they were called. And we would like we would
dance and there'd be fights, and I'm like, this is
just such fucking story, which is crazy.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
But like.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
With those hardcore crews, you know, sometimes you'd be friends
with some of the crews and then sometimes you know,
a new crew try to merge and they would try
to be extra tough and so fight would break out.
And but one of the cool things about the hardcore
scene is it's really inclusive to where there was like
no skinheads allowed. One time I was at a show
and the skin had showed up. He got his ass
beat so fucking bad. I was like, guys, like, he's good,

(05:57):
He's I'm out. I'm just like like I didn't. He
was getting his fucking has beat, so goddamn battle.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
And they made sure he was a skinhead.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, I mean the way he was dressing, the I
was talking about, yet.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Okay, he might be going.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Through It's like he's not black, he's stand get him
so okay.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
So when FFB Merged gets banned from the shows, that's that.
That's like a feeling of like we made it, I thought.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
So.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I thought it was a really cool feeling. And I
was like, no, wait, you know. And so this band
was from Boston, and I like most hardcore Boston bands,
some of them not a big fan of just because
I feel like West Coast hardcore is a lot more aggressive.
So I'm always liked And just like with the rap too,
I like West Coast rap more because I always felt
like it's a little more aggressive. But the first time
I ever got maced was actually at a Black My

(06:44):
Heart show. It was Black My Heart and Death before Dishonor,
and I'm not too upset, but I got maced and
I got kicked out of the show. Before Death Before
Dishonor actually got to play, but I'm not a big
fans of it.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Was whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
But we're outside before Death Dishonor was going on stage
and this guy I knew was walking in and one
of the bouncers grabbed his shoulder really hard. He's like, hey,
let me see your wrist because they would stamp us.
We'll go back inside. He said, don't fucking touch me.
And they start getting into it. But this guy used
to train. My buddy used to train at Team Quest
up in Portland. That's a UFC like an MMA training thing.

(07:17):
A lot of big fight fighters came out of a
Team Quest. But so uh him and that bouncer started
getting in a fight and he just goes up behind him,
gets him in a rear naked choke and it's super
deep and I'm like, holy shit, man, you're gonna kill him,
you know. So this other bouncer is walking up and
he's fucking huge, he's loaked, he's just you know. And
so I was gonna say, hey, he's my buddy, I'll

(07:39):
get him off him. I'll get him off this is
my buddy. I'll get him off the bouncer what I
was gonna say. But the bouncers walked up just goes.
He just got me and got my buddy and mace,
and I was like, fuck, I can't see shit, and
it's getting mace is no joke. It is not fun.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
You're like, if you get maced while you're trying to
commit a crime, you're done with the crime.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I've been tased because all my friends you staff tasers,
so like would get tazed all the time. Mace is
the thing. You can't do anything with mace. It's fucking insane.
But uh no, I love hardcore. It was a big
part of my life for a long time. I sell
a lot of my friends. Uh And that's why I
like when I go to shows now, I'm not like
scared of anything, just because like if you could, if

(08:19):
you've been to a lot of hardcore shows, any concert
would be totally fine.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, Like when I go see Melissa Ethridge, I've seen
her like seven times. This doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds but like I was saying.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
With the FFB getting you know, that's probably how like
the Bloods are the crips when they first saw themselves
on the news, right, Hey, like we made it like
we are killing it.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, we were a little bit different because there's a
lot of straightedge crews there and that's where you don't drink,
do drugs from miscuo, sax or anything. But we would
have straightedge people and non straightedge people in our crew.
So we have a ship ton of people.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Are there a lot of women that do a machine
and like two steps scenes?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I would probably say it's like a ten percent difference,
But I also haven't been.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Ten percent difference between them.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Well i'd say this probably for every hundred dudes, it's
probably like ten. Oh when I was I'm not sure
now because I haven't really. I've only been to one
show was about two three years ago. It was Terror
Kathy got her nose broken. I was like, oh no,
but uh yeah, so but there were some for sure.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, Oh I google the picture of them and they
look cool. But there's one photo that's I asked about
like the lady thing, because there's pictures of the lead
guy with his shirt off, and I'm like, who's that for.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
They're it's they're jumping around. They're probably hot.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh, but then the picture he's not hot, Like he's
not like sweaty.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Are they on stage?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, like it's like a photo shoot.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Oh, he does have a lot of tattoos. Yeah, he
just probably looks cool. Shit.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh okay, because like people like me are posing for
albums and stuff with their shirts off, maybe we should
and we should normalize that. There you go, like, uh,
what's uh? How much more famous would Barry Maniloe have
been if he was shirtless?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
More?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I think he's a homosexual too. Okay, I don't remember
remember remember my fifth one?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
So here it goes?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Okay, Wow, you're still working? Oh hey, get you can
the listener hear me? Oh he's so good. Remind Oh no, no,
since you've been hanging around, I've been trying to be
around what I can see you to get something? He

(10:27):
not bed for hands? Don't you think it's time?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
This is the first time I've heard that song. Who's song?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Okay? So it's by the Canadian pop band soul decision.
The only word letter in that one word what I
just said is D is capitalized, so soul is all
lowercase than the D Soul decisions. So they I don't
know whether h hold on one second. So I have
some I have some interesting facts for you guys for

(10:55):
listener and Andy, why you.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Look that up? That song is it makes you want
to move? That is a dance fucking Hitah, It's weird
that I ever heard that because that song I made
me want a boogie.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, oh my god. Okay. So it came out in
two thousand, pre nine to eleven obviously.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
And.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I don't know what that means. Okay. So just like
around the time of the like boy bands have been
popular for a while, so everyone was in ninety degrees
and in sync, and you know then it was like
you know, the one hit wonders like bb Mac, I
don't tell you the LFO and I know em I

(11:38):
do impressions, so good, okay. So Sola, I just love
that song and literally, Kaylene Superman, my best friandmas up
Or so we talk about Soul Decision and sing that
song at least a couple times a year, like since
we've been friends for like the past twenty five years.
We've we've talked about that song at least several times

(11:58):
a year, and we just it's when I go to
karaoke songs, it's so good. Okay. So I needed to
talk to you though, because I think we need to
do almost like a spinoff. I'm not gonna do this justice.
We need to do a spinoff episode just about soul Decision, okay,
and because it gets crazy. So the the lead singer
is and like the writer and everything is a guy
named Trevor gut Three, so super handsome guy. I follow

(12:20):
him on Instagram. You guys should too. He's like really
handsome and his age beautifully with like very little botox.
It looks like and but you know, like when like
a super badass cool person, because this guy is cool,
like nowadays he smokes cigarettes. I'm like yeah, And I'm like,

(12:41):
whenever I see like a bad I was killing about this.
We're like everyone ever sees like a badass person is
like super cool. Then they're like you're talking to them
and they're like, oh, do you want to go some
move a Cigarette're was like fuck yeah, yeah so much.
And then we get that intentional time outside smoking together. Fabulous. Okay.
So one of the this this album or song went
pretty high on the charts, like I think in the

(13:02):
Billboard it was like in the top fifty or something
like that for a week, and listener that says, we
don't I don't do my research. I don't, but I
go off of my heart. So anyways, the top fifty
for a week. Yeah, for like a week, and but regardless,
that was enough to get a plaque like one of
them was like awards.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Probably sold like a million copies.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So one of the people who got one of those,
who's a part of the songwriting crew and background singer,
I don't know who that is? O, wait, do you
have another grad? So I think a I would say
a list male celebrity. This is if Michael to do
my mind. Okay, i'na give you one more hint. So
an actor man looks like he gets those bleeds. I've

(13:52):
talked about him, I've talked. I've made that reference so
many times.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
But not be Kevin Bacon.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
No, no, no, no, no, I don't know thinking those bleeds. Okay.
Uh Ryan Gosling, Oh doesn't he heeds?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I see it. So Okay, I don't. Okay, So yeah,
he was a part of like sold not in the band,
but he was had his fingers and soul decisions.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
It's super weird because he was already making movies and
stuff in two thousands. Yeah, So like, huh yeah from Canada,
you know.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah he is, So I know where all of my
like hot guys actors are from. Okay. So then the
other thing about this, there's a couple of other things. Okay.
So the Trevor gout three, one of his other people
in his orbit is poor an actor, the old guy
with the big dick, Ron Jeremy, Ron Jeremy. So this guy,

(14:44):
Trevor gu three is associated with Ron Jeremy, which kind
of problematic now, well he was always kind of problematic,
but okay. And Ron Jeremy was in the music video
for Trevor gut three, was a featured artist on a
song that was nominated for a And that Grammy nominated
song has Ron Jeremy in the video.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Weird, like what. So there's a hardcore band called well,
I guess they're more metalcore. I don't like him anymore now,
but they're called The Data Remember, and their first big
video had Ron Jeremy in it, and he was teaching
people how to hardcore bands.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh okay, crazy right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I wont to frea can boil everything back down that
we're on Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Okay. So here Andy is a picture of Trevor gu
three now smoking a cigarette, Like, oh, very good looking.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
He should be like Jimmy Buffett, Like if they do
a biopag, he would be great.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Okay. So here's there's so much conspiracies about this guy
and he's not famous at all, Like you don't know
who Trevor gou three is, Soul Decision, so okay. So
there's a magazine. It's a German magazine. This is all
alleged called People with Money. That's the name of the magazine.
So people subscribe to this magazine People with Money, which

(15:57):
blows my mind too. Some of the some of the
articles or Germany's sex Queen goes public, the world's best
and worst capital markets, a Ronald Reagan for the Philippines,
America's Top business cities. So this is this this issue
that I'm looking at, and who knows if this is true?

(16:18):
But why would it be fake?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (16:19):
That was even more fake.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
So the Maidan story is top annual's list of highest paid,
and then Trevor Got three is quoted as saying, I'm
again the richest in the world, I think musician. He's not,
by the way, but allegedly, according to Carol Kearney, who
wrote this and last updated it on March twenty ninth

(16:42):
of this year, somebody's talking about making articles about this
guy from the Soul We got to reach out to her. Yeah,
I've been trying to find her on the on internet
and apparently he's worth which like one hundred and forty
something million dollars, which isn't that much compared like Mariah
Carey's half a billion, you know, but still the lead
singer of Soul Decision is worth a.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Lot of money.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah. Apparently he owned stock and real estate and a
restaurant chain or whatever. See gets a lot of money
from that. But anyways, long story short, Soul Decision a
great I saw them live at Last Chance Summer Dance
in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Have that kind of like vibe to it.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I haven't really got past this song, but why I
have stay exactly and like when it was the concert
series I told you about it had brag Midnight, Savage Garden,
Samantha Mamba, Doubla Morgan, Jessica Simpson, and Mandy Moore was there.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I know she's so talented, and but she's not continuing
doing the thing. She just put singing in people's movies
that they want to I don't want to watch it
Mandy Moore sing. Yeah, I would buy her albums if
if I want to hear her sing, but obviously nobody
want to buy her albums. That's when she switched to acting.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
So you think she should sing Mandy less.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Oh nice, but like, but again, if Mandy Moore was
an amazing singer, she would have given us the iconic
show This is Us, and that show is pretty goddamn
good with that hot Milo guy in it. Anyways, anyways,
what's your number?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Four?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
So this is the song that I think most people
are gonna know when they hear it.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
I come in my spirit.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
In my line for sar spar second.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Your or far second, and I think.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
When the piano kicks in near the end, it really
like that part's great. But that's by system of a
down the album's toxicity. It came out August thirteenth, two
thousand and one less than a month before nine to eleven,
which is crazy. Yeah, this is definitely and I think
this is that's actually one reason why that song blew
up so big. It as of right now it has

(19:07):
like one point five billion views on YouTube. Is like
the first like rock song I got a billion views
or so it's fucking wait. Well because that part where
it's like forsaken me and it's like the lyrics, So
the original lyric it was called the song was called Suicide,
but they're like, well, we probably shouldn't do that, you know.
So that's why it's called Chop Suey because then they
were like, let's just chop suicide in half and it's

(19:29):
gonna be called sue And then the thought it'd be
funny if it's just chop suey.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I had no idea, yeah, right, uh.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
And so but I think the reason why this song
because it explores themes of like death, self righteousness, and
how people base other people on how kind of the
they die and their thoughts. Right, So, the very first
single was Toxicity, and then this was gonna be their
second single. So this came out a little bit after

(19:54):
nine to eleven, and that part where that we just
listened to. It's really fucking heavy and just like why
is this happening? And I think a lot of America
because that's the first I mean, I mean there was
other of course, you know, terrorist attacks on America, but
nothing to the scale. It scared everybody, like when you
go with Like I watched a lot of documentaries about

(20:14):
nine to eleven, and so many people are like the
couple weeks after eleven, nobody was really sure if we
can like laugh, like it was like what are we
gonna do? Like everybody felt really fucking dop.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I was targeting. There was an amber girl that from
high school. She was like, I'm so scared and I
was like, oh yeah, like calm down, come down to Ambera.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
It was nominated for Best Metal Performance for the Grammys.
I think it's one of the best songs to come
out of the two thousands. I love System of Down
because they're Armenian and with the Armenian genocide, I feel
like they have that generational like anger and sadness that
you know people like that or like Indians or you
know black people, whoever, when it's like a generational thing

(21:02):
to where there's just all this hate like not hate
to just this anger that your people went through this
and so they have that feeling. And then also since
he's Armenian, he's a great singer. Yeah, wonderful singer. Same
with Freddy Murcery, he was Armenian tea. Oh so I
wonder if it was like an Armenian thing. Yeah. I've
never heard them sing, but they probably pretty good.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Uh they I think they did like a Christmas song.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh weird. Yeah. Rick Rubin was one of the producers
or he was the producer of that CD, and he
did like b C Boys, Johnny Cash. I mean, he's
a really good producer.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
That's a pretty diverse like right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
And I was super into System before that song came out,
like because their first CD came out like ninety seven
or something like that, and it's really heavy and they
have the song Sugar on there and it's I loved
it walk in to. Every time I hear the beginning
on the very first self titled System down CD, I
think of being in sixth grade walking to school, listen
to all the time and where my Adidas clobe, you know,

(21:58):
but no super into System. So when I heard the
coming out with a new CD, I was like really excited.
It was great, and then that song it's just it's
just it's like, I don't know how that part when
like the piano is kicking and it's just like because
it's really aggressive, then it kind of just goes to
melodic and beautiful and it's like heavy on your heart.
I don't know. I just I love that fucking song.
I think it's great.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
That's a good song, and it's easier. It kind of
seems like I'm not super familiar with metal and rock
and stuff like like new whatever, like two thousands and newer,
but it seems like it's really easy to use that
that genre to communicate your emotions. Sure, and the passion
and like anger and everything. But like people artists like

(22:40):
Cardi B. If she wants to, like, you know, sing
about like injustice, it's it's trickier to do because she's
in her video, she's gonna be like clapping her ass cheeks.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, for sure. So maybe they should collab.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
System that have been down on Cardi B.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Boom Yah System of a Boh trademark.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I don't know if we can trademark other p oh
we did, yeah we did that, Oh my word.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
But that's likely a new metal song. Like when I
was single and like I'll be talking to girls or
whatever and I'm like, oh, I really like metal and
like go oh me too, and they would say like,
oh I like Disturbed. I'm like, oh, okay, so you
don't like metal.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Right, Okay, So how old are the the gentlemen from
System of a Down. They're probably twenty five now, okay,
so they're quite young. Okay. So one of my favorite
bands of all time is Fleetwood Mac. So Christine mcviee
the other female singer, and Lindsay Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac
released a solo album just the two of them, and
I was like, this is gonna be interesting because they're

(23:36):
like in their seventies or late sixties, so they're gonna
have a different perspective on life. So I was like
super excited because they're really good songwriters and it was
all about like dreams and the feud and which is
totally great to have dreams when you're in your seventies,
but like, I think that's time to start.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Like reflecting maybe rewinding.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, And I was just interested to hear like a
songwriter write songs in their seventies yeah, and especially like
a few email perspective would have been really cool. But
so anyway, I.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Can write a song like that if you want, like what, like,
I'll just pretend I'm a seven year old woman.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, oh my god, old people. I found out this
fact the other day. So old people are like people
or people that are like addicted to gambling. When they're
gambling and casinos, they wear diapers.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, I've heard about that. So then, well I think
they could just be wearing diapers because.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
They have to, but they just like because they can't
quit gambling.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, I mean when you're at that age, fuck it,
you know, like right, and well I guess yeah, I
don't know. I just say I don't. I don't really
like old people. I would always been.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
So I prefer old people to children.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
But you know, it depends, but it depends depends. Oh see,
it's like they both use depends.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, I was like looking at the adult diapers against
I love looking at them. So when I go to
the supermarket, I do two things. I hide the stick
like the sticky pads for like rodents to get on
because I don't like that's inhumane. So I like to
go to like the pest control area. There's like sticky
pads where I hide those. And then I go to
the diaper section to see what the models look like

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on the adult diapers. And I was taking trying to
take a picture, and somebody came over and was like
looking for themselves. I was like, okay, this is awkward.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Well you can't tell them like, oh, I'm just taking pictures.
I make fun of this to someone, you.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Know, I could have been like, oh, I need to
see if these are the right ones, but then that
would have been too much talking.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
But then the models too, none of them look no,
they all are great.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I want them to be like sitting down.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
People gambling out of it's the model.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
If it's somebody you can stand up to, like pose
for a picture in their diaper, they can go to
the bathroom. All right, I'll see my number four. Oh hey,
now I'm like working on the chair. The Hollies cut

(26:02):
a little yeah down.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
In the k Yeah that song.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Oh you know, no, you know, tell me your thoughts
really quick.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I just that song was everywhere, and it's a good song.
It's it's still holds up now, like you know, some
of those early two thousand kind of rap songs. It
kind of like whatever you know, But that one I
think still holds up perfectly.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And Usher is awesome, fucking killed it. Okay, that one's Usher,
Lil Wayne and Ludacris. Ludacris. He is somebody that can
switch from artists like a of of the music to
the acting.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think you meant Little John No, Ludacris, fast O Wayne.
I don't think he's in that song.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Oh yeah, all right, yeah, I get so confused with
the Lil's Like there's a little Little Bow I don
one talks about him, but uh, Little are you.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
The one that brought up his do rag?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
No? Did I did?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I just see a video about this? You know what,
Go ahead and finish your song.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
No, but know what the only people care about Little
bow Wow is because isn't his dad master.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
P No, fuck's his dad's some guy.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Somebody's dad is master.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Oh Little Romeo, Little Romeo, thank you get there's so
many Little Little Debbie's dope.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Little Debbie is good. Yeah shit, Oh, I need to
brush up on my little two thousand Okay, So Ludocrou
is a great actor, by the way, and oh Confessions
album two thousand and four, post nine to eleven. This
is when we're trying to like rebuild right before we
went into Iraq, and this let us to Iraq.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Okay, so this, this one just reminds me because around
two thousand and four, okay, so we just became adults.
So I was like frequently frequenting strip clubs a lot,
and this was like a go to strip song. So
as soon as so in high school I was a
little like a little awkward and chubby and whatever. And
then in my early twenties, I like got really like

(27:58):
skinny in shape, like I was. We're gonna say medium
T shirts medium.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah. So anyway, so I was living with the roommate
who was a stripper, and she was stripping at the
strip club that used to be on killings Worth and
she was like, oh, you know, let's let's go there,
like come on over, so upstairs as men, downstairs is women.
So that's the first time that I got naked for money.
Oh listening to the song that's dope.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, yeah, like you make pretty good money.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So no, yes and no, yes and no. Okay, so
very few people are so Killingsworth is like I'm sure
it got ginger fight or whatever. Now, but back in
the day and like twenty years ago, it was like
train tracks and like industrial so it was in the
middle of nowhere. So there was like a couple of
like creepy old gay guys and that's that's that's my audience.

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And they were the ones that were like giving me money,
oh and like other things. Anyway, I was just.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Saying, you got to get naked. They gave you money,
and they gave you some little extra. Yeah, so Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Okay, so that song just hit and U sure was good.
Before then he had that like mah I love. Yeah,
he was good. And then he dabbled in and acting
in the Faculty, but he was such a small role. Yeah,
such a good movie.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Though.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
We did talk about that one sometime.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Bbe remember I saw when it came out.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
She's Hot.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I think one of them has like a weird pink
you know. Yeah, we should do that for Halloween.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
But yeah, it's such a good one. Fucking Elijah Wood
fucking disgusting. Like nobody ever says Elijah, would you know
who my celebrity crushes Elijah would Nobody says that.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Nobody's ever said, well, maybe he was frodo or something.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I don't that's not that's not a flex he's doing.
He's doing conventions now, and you know who else doing
conventions and Amy Joe John's Amy uh Kimberly J. Brown
from Halloween Town. So no, because she went into acting
and that saved her because it's a lot of sad
women that like to watch Oh God, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Okay, So that song it was huge too because I
think right after that song came out, or right before
that song came out, Dave Chappelle had the little John
skit on The Chappelle Show. Remember that what Okay, he
goes there's just some dude that that's.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
All he does.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
He just says okay and songs. But he's actually he
makes the beads. He's a producer. But so I think
there was like a big and then the Fast and
Furious movies too with Luda Chris. So I think there
is this huge like perfect storm to make that song
and it is and it's just a good song overall,
you know, like it has a good rap, it has
a good R and B, it has a good beat. Yeah,
that song just overall I think is great.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, I never got into Chappelle and here's why. So
I first saw him when he was on he played
the stand up comedian and the nutty professor.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I forgot about that until he became an adult, and
I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, he was so mean. So every time then I
saw him had a show and I was like, I'm
not watching this. He mean, I didn't understand that he
was playing a character. Right, So anyways, all right, Andy,
what's your number? Next one?

Speaker 1 (30:57):
So this one's from left field the rain and.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Started tapped them on the window near mama bed.

Speaker 7 (31:04):
It was a luke wool in my dreamming.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
So I got out of them.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
It's in my surprise. My eyes were wide and already opened.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
My standing up.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
My dresser was not of most I just done.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
So I addressed myself and left them out into the
gray streets.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
But everything seemed different, completely into me, the start of trees,
houses building.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
So this was the hardest artist for me to pick
one song because I fucking love and loved Bright Eyes.
First time I heard them, I was about sixteen years old.
Bright Eyes was started by Connor Oberst, who I think
is one of the best lyricists, like of all time,
Like just it's insane, how what he can do with songs,

(31:50):
like there's a if his new album, he has one
who goes, I don't drink much, just the cold stuff,
which I love that line so much because it does
he does, you know? But this song I chose this
one because it has two of my favorite lyrics. Probably
most of his music isn't uplifting. Most of it's really depressing,
and you can hear his albums and the songs with

(32:13):
his mental like how he's doing, like when he's depressed,
when he's drinking again, when he's on drugs, and I
for sometime, I know it sounds bad, but I love that,
like you can just hear what he's going through. And
he's such a good lyricist. But two of my favorite
lines that he wrote, or in the song he goes.
Every person I encountered I couldn't wait to meet, and
then he goes. I came upon a doctor who appeared

(32:35):
in quite poor health. I said, there's nothing that I
can do for you. You can't do for yourself. He said, oh, yes,
you can just hold my hand, and I think that
that would help. So I sat with him a while
and I asked him how he felt he said, I
think I'm cured. No, in fact, I'm sure of it.
Thank you Stranger for your therapeutic smile. Oh it almost

(32:56):
made me tear up just that little bit. And it's
really rare for Bright Eyes because he's just uplifting this song.
And I just think this this song is so beautiful
talking about like just a smile to someone that looks
like they're going through it could literally change exactly how
they feel like. And it's just the lyrics are perfect,

(33:17):
the music's perfect. But the other line, which I think
is insane, and I just I don't know how somebody
can think of things like this, Like if the world
could remain within a frame, like a painting on a wall,
then I think would see the beauty, then would stand
staring in awe. That's so fucking heavy, because I feel

(33:37):
like this quote suggests that framing the world like a
painting can reveal its beauty and inspire awe. By limiting
our perspective, we might gain a different appreciation for the
world's intricacies and beauty, leading to a state of wonder
and admiration. So a lot of times I feel like
we can get kind of bogged down when we think
of the whole picture. And I think a lot of

(33:58):
people are too focused on the past and the future.
So if we can just take a second and just
think about exactly what's going on right now, like just
a picture on the wall, then I think that puts
in perspective to where it's like, you know what, I'm
talking to one of my one of my best friends here,
We're just talking some music and it's fucking great. So
sometimes you just gotta like just take a little break

(34:19):
and just think and just somebody wrote those lyrics. It
blows my mind. But uh no, I love I just
got to do some I'm talking about it, but it
was really hard for me to pick just one Brand
Eye song. You should check him out if you like it.
Kind of folksy. He was offered millions of dollars to
sign to like Sony, but he's like, no, I just
want to do it my own way. And I just
heard him an interview recently. He goes, I'm kicking myself

(34:40):
because I because he's doing fine now. I've seen him
on tour. One of the things I saw him recently
a couple of years ago is right after his divorce,
and you could tell he was partying because like there's
times where he couldn't remember the lyrics of his songs,
but he was playing the piano perfectly or playing the guitar,
and then the crowd joined in and it kind of
kicked him up again to you can start singing, Oh

(35:01):
so fucking good. I just love Bright Eyes. I think
he's one he can't sing very well, but I think
his lyrics put him to that point to where it's
just wonderful. And I feel like I don't like Bob Dylan,
but I also wasn't around when all that shit came out,
you know, when his music was big. But I feel
like it's kind of similar, just because Bob Dylan can't sing,
but I guess he was a really good lyricist and

(35:23):
at that time it meant a lot. And I think
now it's the same with Bright Eyes, Like it's just
constant art. I just love it so much.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Good for him, Like, yeah, I'm gonna check him out.
Like I was really like I was thinking what he
must be like in his personal life, like just you know,
playing around, Like when he's playing around with music or
songs or like practicing lyrics, like that must be such
a cool experience. To watch it.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, and a lot of the recordings he has they
don't sound the best because he's just playing with a
guitar and a mic, you know. But that's see. He
came out in two thousand and two post nine to eleven.
Sense it's called it Lifted, or the Story and the Soil,
Keep Our or keep your ear to the ground. I
think all the CDs are great, though, so listen to
them all. But I fucking love bred As. I can't
talk highly enough about him.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
So I love it. Are we on number three?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
We are on number three? Okay.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Do you want to take a quick break and listen
to some messages I need to sent you?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Oh? Hell yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Okay. So the other day I was a little intoxicated,
but I was thinking of funny things apparently, and I
sent voice memos to Andy, so I reminded him to
tell me, like, so we can discuss what I sent.
So I'm going to play one and then see what
I what I said. I think I was coming up
with like jokes or saw something was funny. Jesus Christ,

(36:44):
nextage a lot? Okay, Oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Okay, are they all one joke?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
No? Oh, I don't know Okay, let me try to
crack this code. Okay, So, James Cameron, that one made sense.
It's not joke. But we were at a restaurant and
I saw this guy because I'm we live in our
hometown that we grew up in, and I saw this guy.
I was like staring at him, like I know you,
I know you, and I'm like, oh, he's probably like
a teacher. I'm like, oh, he must be a teacher.
I like really lived if I remembered him. I just
like spent most of the of the meal staring at

(37:26):
this guy eating, and then I realized that he just
looks at James Cameron.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Oh, I resembles kind of like James.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, like like that was it. So I was just
like disappointed that it was like, oh, that's my favorite tea,
you know that kind of thing. So I was like, oh,
James Cameron looked like anyways, what was the second one?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Diarrhea? No dog funeral.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh, I don't think this is funny at all. But
I was thinking, I'm gonna when Gus Gus passes away,
I want to have a funeral for him. But I
think that might be too sad for me. So I
think I'm gonna have one like before he dies.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, like uh and then and then Gus Gus could
enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Too, exactly Like that's I'm thinking. Because so then people
can get their photos with him and like say their
say their feelings and that kind of thing. And because
I'm not gonna want to put on because I think
I'm gonna have it at the like reserve one of
those zebos at the park and put up like a
screen and do like a slide show and have like
you know, like oh, have his this might be the

(38:31):
dog diarrhea than have his favorite foods. But instead of
like cat Ship, I'm gonna see if Kathy will make
little like miniature cakes like cat Ship. I think that
would be really fund great. Yeah and then yeah, so
I was thinking about that. I think after he passes away,
I think I just need to like go into like

(38:52):
the grievement time. Yeah. So I'm not gonna want to
put on a party.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
So a number all right, So here's your song?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Oh wait, I was gonna say the next one, sorry,
number two? This one be quicker?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Fine? I did you want a number two songs?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Oh that's not Oh, I think I was gonna make
fun of Jeremy there because we were at the park
and he was on Facebook trolling people like Trump supporters.
There's like one chick that she was like, this is
so disgusting what they're doing. And then he like takes
a picture, like saves a picture of her profile. It's
like not as disgusting as your eyebrows.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I just love that. Like he's like, I'll be back,
I have to go to the park. Yeah, he only
does it at the park, all.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Right, number Oh you did a crying facet to this one.
What could it be? Sound?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
God? Damn it?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
So I was. And we came back from the park
and I was sitting in the bedroom or the living
room with all the lights off, just like leaving that
message because I was at the store earlier and I
was like, this is something's child.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
It is really sad to eat meat. And the whole
reason like we eat meat now is just because it
tastes good, which is an awful fucking reason to do.
It's like oh, like well, I know rape's bad, but
it just feels so good, you know. It's like like
we're just we're killing things. And a lot, you know,
a lot of religious people don't think that you know,
animals have souls, which I don't know. I think for
something to have a soul, that they probably have to

(40:34):
feel some sort of suffering, right, That's probably what creates
soul is suffering, and all the animals that we eat,
they're fucking suffering.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I don't know, no, I I I'm I'm not gonna
I think I'm I'm gonna head towards veganism, not because well,
because of the health benefits all, but needs to do
some research about that, and then because it's healthier just
choice and in general and like ethical, yeah, but also
I really just want to tell people and vegan.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and just yeah, be like, oh.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I can't, no, I can't. No, we need to go
to different restaurants began are the are the veggie burger
is gonna be on a different barbecue or just just
do all veggie burgers. Yeah, that's fine, No.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
And I yeah, So I I quit eating pork for
a long time, not knowing that pepperoni was pork. I know. Yeah,
then the whole time. I may have said this on
the podcast, but someone goes, but you're eating up but
I've seen you PEPPERONIU. I'm like yeah, and that's when
I found out I had no fucking clue.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
It feels like pepperoni should be like cow yeah, beef right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Why isn't there? I don't know, but I rarely eat beef,
like I never really eat beefs.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I'm more. If I have to eat meat, it's it's
birds and then cows no pig. Yeah, but I don't
really like eating cows anymore. It's like I don't really
like birds in general. They freak me out a little
bit kind of. I think it's almost like not to
the extent ev with ocean, ocean, like, but I just

(42:00):
don't want touch it, like I don't want to die
and me like eat its carcass.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Well, the whole reason there's cows and chickens is for
our consumption because these types of animals weren't around. They
got it's crazy they were, but not the ones that
we have now. So they've been bread a certain way,
not just GMO bread, but they've actually been bread a
certain way just for us to keep. So the whole
reason they're here is just to be.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
It's fucking nuts. Okay. So when somebody was like, okay, guys,
let's breathe this animal. And this animal because eventually I
want to sunk their tit and drink it. We're not
there yet, It's take some times, take some time, but
I want.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
A fucking twenty nine percent amburger.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
But like, what's worse eating the burger? Eating the burger
or drinking the milk? Probably eating the burger, oh, because
they had to die from it. But like, I don't know,
it just grosses me out. Like drinking milk, and like
some people drink like like complete like full milk or whatever.
I just I can't deal with that.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I've got a coffee recently and I was like, oh,
can I it's called like a I it's shitgar free milk.
I'm like, hey, can I get the sugar free milk?
And he goes, do you want to hopscotch? And I
was like, yeah, I guess I didn't ask for that.
And I was like, oh, we can't get almond milk though,
and he goes, oh, it comes to protein milk, and
I'm like, okay, I guess I'll have that. Man Like,
why was he pushing about hopscotch drink on me?

Speaker 3 (43:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
No, I'm not gonna do that nonsense either.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, I'm just like, that's fine, I'll drink whatever. So
I just had a Popscotch protein milk thing. I don't
know what protein milk is. Is it milk milk?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Like broke fucking ripped ask cow? That cow was like
a female bodybuilder like cow. Okay, what's the next one?

Speaker 5 (43:39):
You got so much.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Great equivelations breaks well, girls.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
And girls, black break, my.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Girls takes drinks, just busting praise blaweens. That track Sea.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
We got, Oh there you Go.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
That song is fucking badass. I've never heard that before.
But when I hear that song, I think of like
me and some of my friends and it's nighttime and
we're driving and we're drinking and there's like a lot
of lights around, like we're just gonna go out that night.
We're gonna fucking race. Like that song gets me soapp
I don't know, I've never heard it before. It's great.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, I am. I love Scissor Sisters, like I just
rediscovered that.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I was.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Me and Keithy. We're into them when when they were
coming out and stuff in the early two thousands. I
think that their first album came out like two thousand
and three, so we were just about we were just
finishing high school and it was just cool to see,
like they weren't big on mainstream, but they did play
one of their songs sometimes on MTV for like a minute,

(45:19):
and that's why I discovered them, and I was like,
oh shit, like this is primetime MTV, like music videos
and stuff. But it's like a gay centrist artist, like
and very unapologetically gay, like boy George. You know, it
was definitely androgynists and you know that kind of thing,
but they were just unabashful about it. And they have

(45:40):
such good lyrics. So they have a mix of songs,
so they have like songs like She's My Man, which
we just listened to, and they have like Tits on
the Radio, which I referred to last episode when I
was by the episodes. Yeah, and then and then there's
a really good song called take your Mama Out, and
it's all about coming to terms of their sexuality and
then like your Mom Out and like the fun that

(46:01):
they have where they get drunk at a strip club
and like en end up in the road.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Drag mom or like your Mom like your biological mom.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
Fuck.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I never thought about that level. I just always didn't
associated with my mom because that was kind of like
our song because she was like one of my biggest
supporters when I came out, and we've done that song
karaoke before. It's like such a good song and anyways,
and then there's like ballads where they are There's one
that they do call the Other Side and it just
talks about life and then death and what comes of

(46:31):
you when you die, just like very deep, heavy ship.
But then they have like the goofy songs too, Like
there's one song like what's popular ten years ago a
little bit that was called like want to Have a
ki Key and it's so bizarre, kind of like campy,
and you know, my keykey is so key, you know,
like it's like on gay Twitter, like a keykey is.

(46:52):
I think the definition, I might be wrong is a
bunch of drag queens getting together and talking ship.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
So there's for yeah, it's not just like gossip.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
It's just so specific, like it's it's it's the vibe
of like let's it's like a brunch vibe or like
let's get let's get some champagne and like smoke some
cigarettes and like talk shit anyways, but like being fabulous
about it anyway. So I just love like their camp,
but they do it in a way that camp is
supposed to be, where there's also that message behind it,
or that they have that oh like we're we're goofy

(47:25):
and sexy and talking about dix and penises and posts
and stuff, but then we're also gonna throw you with
like what's the concept of life?

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Oh sure, yeah, Well if there's more stuff like that
than I am definitely in because that shit made me
want to just party like that. It sounded so much fun.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, they have parties. But then one of the other
songs I love is called return to Oz and it's
have you seen Return to Oz?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
When I was a little kid, and for some reason
it scared me, so I've never watched it.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
So they have a song called return to Oz and
it's more the vibe of Return to Oz the movie,
not Wizard of Oz. And it's just like this epic
ballot and it's just talking about the Emerald City and
just everything going to ship it and it's just such
a powerful And then their song there their albums though
that they're they're ragers, are such good workout songs too.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Oh sure, I love that that that that tempo for sure.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
So good, oh my word. So yes, they're they're on
tour right now with Kesha, which I'm like, but but
if they came closer, I would I would at least
go to a Kesha show. I probably wouldn't stay for
Kesh or go sit down.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I've done that. I saw Alice Cooper with Motley Crue
and I was like.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
It's.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Like, what am I gonna do?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Kesha Like, there's a picture of her online with come
on her tummy.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
That's awesome. She's feuding with Katy Perry right now. Weird. Well,
Katy Perry collabed with the guy with the producer that's
actually assaulted Kesha and it was for like a pro
woman song.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Too, so the wrong guy.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
So so Katy Perry recently went up in an all
female space Thingy and Wendy's, the fast food chain, uh
tweeted on their their their Twitter and their social media
is bitchy. They commented and said, can we send her
back Katy Perry?

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, damn so then.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
So then later that day, Kesha posts on on social
media a picture of her drinking Wendy's milkshake. So it's
just like Kasha versus, but like, where's Rby's gonna fall? Like,
like are they team Casher team Katy Perry?

Speaker 1 (49:30):
It must be weird to be like a celebrity because
she knew that people talk about this and part of
like being a rock star whatever celebrity now is you
have to do social media. Yeah, right, So it's weird.
She probably like I don't know, like I don't know.
This is just all speculation, but she probably has like
people helping her with like social media stuff, and she's
like she had like maybe call a managers like hey,
what if I did I got a Wendy's cup and

(49:51):
they go, that'd be great. You know, it's weird that
that's like part of her day was like a fuck
with someone by drinking Wendy's.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
So I'm gonna be more team Kesha cause I think
she's on it more so Kesha when she came out,
tried to be like really like number one thing, you know,
like trying to be like really relevant. What she needs
to do is she needs to focus on her little
niche and then and and live her life. She's not
gonna make it. She's not gonna make it. She's not

(50:19):
gonna make it. Level it's not going to be a
t switch.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Katy Perry, on the other hand, needs to come down
to Kesha level, because Katy Perry, You're done. You're You're whatever,
your wherever your thing was. You're You're like a slightly
prettier Ashley Simpson who made it.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I like dark Horse, But that's the only Katy's Perry
song I know.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, no, she's I just can't with her anyways.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
So this next song, uh, this is the first like
metal core album I got. So the very first song
I played was a Black My Heart and that's just
straight hardcore and there's a lot of genres of metal,
like type of metal. This next song plays metal core.
And the first time I ever saw hardcore dancing, I
was at the Grain. It's a little venue up in Washington,
and I was seeing my buddy's band play. And then

(51:04):
there was a band. The last band was called Ethan Blood.
They're from Washington and I've never heard of them before.
And that's not who I'm playing. But all these hardcore
kids came out and they were wearing like, they had
their black bandanas over their face. They had like the
band T shirts, black you know, pants and everything and
they looked so fucking cool. It's the first time I
saw that shit and I was like blown away. And

(51:27):
my buddy Corey was next to me because we were
in a band, and I was like, what is this
He goes, dude, it's hardcore dancing. I'm like, oh, I've
never this is this is incredible. This is like the
coolest thing I've ever seen. And he goes, well, I
have an Evergreen Terrace CD. I'll let you borrow. And
this is the first like shit that got me super
into metal, which got me into f FB and it
kind of changed my whole trajectory of my life.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
So he gone, No one wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
The wind Dead.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
No card.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
And another reason I like it is because their name
is Evergreen Terrace and that's the street that the Simpsons
live on, which is super.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Different dope, right, yeah, so cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
They started in nineteen ninety nine, but this CD came
out in two thousand and two for year, you know,
a year after nine to eleven. So this song is
called no Donnie. These men are not nihilists. I can
never say that fucking word.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
And that's like a reference to the Big Lebowski. So
this song kind of explores the themes of pride, downfall, downfall, apathy, apathy, treachery,
and the consequences of of believing in nothing right. It
suggests that embracing nihilism can lead to isolation, lack of
emotional connection, and ultimately personal downfall. And I just love

(53:10):
that this song so much because it's the very first
hardcore show I went to on purpose, and so I
was like super scared, but I kind of saw what
people were doing, so I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna try
to do this. And luckily, when this dude, I knew
that we weren't really friends at the time, but like,
I started a hardcore dance, flown throwing my arms right
when everybody started two stepping, and he came up and

(53:32):
grabbed me and he pulled me back. He's like, no, no, no, no, dude,
you can't do that now. And I was like, oh, okay.
And then after, you know, they after a band was done,
he goes, you got it. There's certain times you can
do this, otherwise you're gonna get jumped. And I didn't
know anybody there at the time, so I would have
got my ass beat right, and then I probably never
went to another hardcore show, so he like saved me.
But another cool thing is I was wearing a bad
Religion belt buckle and after the show, Evergon Tarras, one

(53:54):
of them, was walking out and he goes, oh, I
fucking love bad religion, and I was like, oh me too, man,
I love that religion.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
So it's like he just sat staring at my junk,
don't look at my dick. So they do some really
good covers too, some of the best, like metal core
covers I think they do right now the original guitars.
He needs some help with like some organs or something.
I don't know what's going on, but uh, he's like
he needs organs replaced or something. But right now, if

(54:21):
you follow him on Instagram or Facebook or anything like that,
you can buy merch and it goes to help him out.
So I think it's super worth it because I've seen
them live a bunch. They're really cool dudes. They've always
been really down to earth, great music, great scene, and
if it wasn't for them, I would not have been
into hardcore, which, ultimately, like I said, changed my life.
So and the lyric and they were they they would

(54:43):
sing and scream and that was really unheard of at
the time, and then now you have like a data remember,
and a lot of bands do that. But to my knowledge,
they were the first ones in like metalcore doing that
and it wasn't jokey or it wasn't like it was
still cool. Like there's some bands that it's like, oh man,
they fucking suck whatever, you know, but they were like
cool and doing it and oh and the lyrics are
so good. Oh I love everyone tears so much. I

(55:04):
listened to the City. I used to work in Portland.
I listened to the City probably a thousand times, that's
the way. That's insane. A thousand times. I don't know,
I probably a hundred times. But it's great. This album
is great. This yeah, the First City was wonderful. So
Everygreen Terrace it's changed my life.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Damn you really hit it hard there. I like that.

Speaker 8 (55:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah. So when when people get jumped at the shows,
is it like like they're beating you senselessly?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
It kind of depends like so like there's hardcore kids
and there's metal heads, so there's always more metal heads
it shows than hardcore kids. Like hardcore kids they would
wear like basketball short It's like a hoodie, some pumas
or whatever, and like a fifty nine to fifty and
they looked like gangsters, you know, like like quote unquote
gang members or whatever. And then the metal kids are
the ones that had like long hair and they had

(55:53):
like cut off sleeves with the metal you know. But
so if like the kids are trying to dance, you know,
hardcore kids are two stepping, and these people keep moshing
and then they start getting pissed and then they get
like a warning, but then they keep coming out. Then
all the hardcore kids are gonna swarm this dude and
beat the fuck out of them. And I've seen some
people get beat the fuck up, but most of the
time it's just a few warning hits. But there's like

(56:13):
eight people, you know, hitting and then hopefully you'll get
the message. But then some dudes they think they're tough
and they go, fucking let's do it, and then they
just get jumped by like twenty people.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
So when you go to metal shows, a lot of
times there's like you know, the security like metal detector
people or people check bags and that kind of thing.
Do you think that when it's like a metal show
that they change the kind of who's working that night.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
It depends on the venue. So like there was like
Rosland Theater was great, but they would they were super diligent.
They're like right when they saw kids hardcore dancing, a
lot of times they're be like no, no, no, can't do
that because they knew it was gonna get violent, or
they would let it go and then right when a
fight broke out, then they would like shut the show
down and shit. So it depended on the venue. My
favorite venue to go to was Satyricon because it was

(56:59):
a small venue. It was right by the roseland it's
on Burn Side essentially, and everybody could get there and
it was just really cool fucking venue because it's always
been kind of a shitty venue, like that's where Kurt
Cobain and Corney Love met because Nirvani used to play
there in the late eighties, so it was like a
long term venue. But they've always been kind of metally,
so they would let shit go a lot for the

(57:21):
other places with so a lot of it depends on
where like a nice place they're not gonna put up
with that shit. There's like get the fuck out your turkeys,
but you know, lower places are like dear thing as
long as nobody gets killed, really, you know.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Because the I always found like when you're the concerts
and you go through security, like usually like you're pre
gaming before you get there, and then you see like
sometimes it's like, oh, that's that looks like my mom working.
You know, maybe I'm like my grandma working, because a
lot of singers, you know, have secondary jobs, you know,
with their social security and just kind of like a
buzzkill to like go through security and be like, oh,

(57:52):
this person's like thirty years older than me and I'm
stoned as fucked.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Just yeah, well, as long as the thing to like,
if you don't want to get hit, stay away from
the pit, Like that's what I like. There we go. Yeah,
and if you don't want to, like if people like,
oh it's so dangerous and violent, it's only violent dangerous
if you put yourself near the pit. Yeah, it's not
like people are gonna be dancing and then go back
to the back and be like, hey, fuck you bitch.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
You know, do you think that you're ever too, like
you have to train at a young age to get
in the pit, or do you think someone like me
could work towards that.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
It's uh, you could definitely get in there, like anybody could.
I started going to like shows I was about fifteen sixteen,
and there were some dudes out like are thirty and
said they were called tough guys. And I never really
crowd killed too much. But what a crowd kill is is,
you know a circular pit. You would just run to
one side and then hit as many people as you
can on top of the head, and then you run
to the other side as many people as you can

(58:44):
on top of the head.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah, hard core shows are violently crowd served ones.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Crowdsurfing is dope. Yeah, a hard core shows they try
to see how far they can run on people's heads.
So like and hard core shows, you jump on stage
whenever you can, grab the mic, sing a little bit,
and then run as far as you can.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
It's it's no people's next. Don't do that. I shouldn't
do that. Yeah, for sure, jesays. So I think I
actually have two more.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
You do, and I have two more as well.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Okay, cool, My number two is.

Speaker 7 (59:15):
On a Monday.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
I am waiting.

Speaker 7 (59:18):
Tuesday, I'm waiting, but Wednesday again.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
See from the.

Speaker 7 (59:26):
Following I hear you in the darkness clear you come
to Lescu.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Turn out turn out so bad.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
I can have the gusram a hole bad.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Very different songs, very different songs.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
That's a great song, though it's okay.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
So I chose Ashley Simpson Pieces of Me because she's awesome,
but uh but okay, I for like the new listener
I am. I'm so into celebrity pop culture and like
the shitty shitty like dalist stuff, like I love tabloid stuff,
and she was just like perfect for tabloid because she
was messy, but she was with you know, her sister,

(01:00:13):
Ashley Simpson, who was like one of the you know
that that wave of reality TV, like right after the
Osbourne's came out was Nick and Jessica.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
I loved that show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Yeah, I was so fucking invested. And then when like
this one came out, like her reality show, was like,
per I get another one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
This is like the beginning of like the Flavor of
Love kind of franchising reality shows. I'm like, sign me
the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I remember I was so into that Nick and Jessica
show that like when I found out they broke up,
I was like, oh, that fucking sucks. I really wanted
them to do. You remember there's an episode where Jessica's
talking and Nick's like doing some gyuard work. She goes, look,
he always makes his face when he does work, and
he goes like, anyways, I think about that all the
time when I remember I'm doing anything. I'm like, oh,

(01:00:57):
this makes sure I'm not making a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Face during the nicola. A fun fact about Jeff is
Jeff has a very similar not ninety degrees one, but
like a similar tattoo to him on my back. So really,
so back in the day, the male version of a
tramp stamp was the upper back tattoo, and it was
for men and they got like a sunshine that was

(01:01:20):
like the thane for a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Yeah, I remember what what what would it be called
if it wasn't a tramp stamp? Like we gotta think
of the name.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Uh back back, tap backtap back, tap back, tat back.
That's it's pretty much what it is. Okay, So so anyway, so, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Do you think she would have been a bigger star
if it wasn't for the SNL thing?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Oh my god, Okay, So I was so bummed they
just celebrated the fifty annivers fifty annivers who SNL. Why
the fuck was actually Sison Nott there? Like she made
And that's part of the reason I picked her too,
is because she's not like she brought a new audience
to SNL. I think like because she was a part
of that you know, Jessica Simpson brand and then went

(01:02:05):
on and everybody who didn't watch I don't think a
lot of people that bought Ashley Simpson albums also watched SML.
And then the watchings I watch, I rewatched that'sinal thing
a lot. And the fucking Jude Law is the guy
who like the host that night, and like he was
just you can just tell that he's thinking like, oh,

(01:02:25):
she really fucked up. And then homeboy, like a couple
of years later bangs his nanny like yeah, like you
really he was dating or married to see her. Cianna
Miller fucking hot, she's so fucking hot. She's like she's
like Britney spears that I didn't get her kids take
it away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Like the hoedown dance Ashley Simpson does on the SML thing.
I think that's one of the most cringe television moments
of all time. Like, I that that is one of
the most iconic SNL moments in the all fifty years.
But it's just because it's so hard to watch. I can't.
I can't watch it. And then like at the end

(01:03:04):
when she's like, oh, I'm so sorry my guitar started
playing something else or something like that, I just I can't.
It's making me feel so like I can't. It's I
can't watch that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
So so I think she also resonated with me a
little bit different than with you, because I was in
that time around you know a lot of straight girls
and straight girls when they're not all of them sing
as well as Kayleen, like who have like such beautiful voices.
Some of the girls I was friends with when I
was younger saying like shit and they I think that

(01:03:33):
they appreciated Ashley Simpson because they could actually sing along
to it and not sound like like dog shit, I
got dogs getting strangled because she's easily like me, She's
easy to sing along to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Yeah, And I think it was a great marketing scheme
because Jessica Simpson was more kind of like the prissy
you know, and then she was more of like tumbling,
kind of tough. Yeah. When she stated badass Ryan and
I like that so Iran Verra song that all the
way down I thought, can love that I was all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
The time actually or Jessica Simson released some kind of
like cosmetic line that was one hundred percent edible.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
So really, yeah, it was so sticky because it was like,
can't be like whipped.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Cream, Like it puts a moose that's like, you know,
put in her hair, but you can also like eat it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
What a weird idea? Yeah, are you gonna eat it
out of your hair later? Or because if you get
it before you put it on, just go buy a
postle or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
It was like it was like a thing that she
tried doing like edible. So anyways, so yeah, actually something amazing.
Oh and then she's like she's married to uh Diana
Ross's kid, so she's she is and she has a
couple of his babies, so like not saying that she's
you know, but you know she is. Yeah he is

(01:04:56):
cute though, but like, yeah, anyways, who's your number?

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
So this band is the best hardcore band of all
fucking time. I don't care anybody says, and I think
anybody that's in the hardcore scene this band will be
in their top three. Doesn't matter who you are, if
you're from East coast, west coast, Middle, it doesn't matter.
You're gonna put this band in your top three fucking easily.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Why, right, right, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
All right, oh god, sack dude.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Like I was doing some of the hand like moving
in my hands and I can feel the workout.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Well, that's why I used to be in such a
good shape, because I used to move furniture and then
I would go to these shows two three times a
week and then dance for like three fucking hours, fight
and stuff. But that band is called Terror, and like
they get the red carpet anywhere they go, because there's
some bands that like can't play in certain cities based
on who knows what. Like there's a band called Hoods

(01:06:30):
and the lead singer like fucked one of the crew,
like Portland CRU's ex girlfriend. And when the hood when
Hoods got on stage, they their whole crew showed up
and they jumped on stage. The leader grabbed the lead
singer of Hoods, pulled them off stage and said, get
your band, get the fuck out of here. If you
guys ever played Portland again, we're gonna stab you to death.

(01:06:50):
And they've never been back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
They were heat sheet or they were broken up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
They were broken up, right, Yeah, but no Terror will
get a red carpet anywhere they go. They're still touring
right now. Their new CD fucking killed it. It's so good.
The lead singer, since I've been listening to them, looks
like a soccer dad. It's insane. He looks like he
could drop your kids off at soccer. Nobody would think. Yeah.

(01:07:15):
Lead singer Terry's name Scott. I got to play video
games with him one time because I have this like
thing in my life tour. I just do stuff until
someone tells me not to do it, right, like when
it comes to concerts or most of the things in
my life.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I saw a picture. I just saw a picture. It
does Yeah, he looks like somebody. He looks like somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
And that's the singer of the band that was just screaming.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
He barbecues, well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
And they play shows constantly. They two or three shows
a week since last twenty years. Like Cheap Trick tours
a lot. They out tour Cheap Trick. It's fucking crazy.
But I was seeing the messageer Con one time and
we were like, we used to like to go early
and warm up for the show, you know, get some
drinks or whatever. But I've really had to pee and
I wanted a good parking spot so after the show

(01:07:58):
we could just leave. And I was like, I need
to go the bath. Through them it said closed. I
just walked in. But I see Scott playing a bust
to move that bubble game to where it's like there's
a bunch of like colored balls and then you like
hit yellow to two yellows and they fall. Well anyways,
I was like, hey, can I get on this? He's
like yeah, man. So then we're just fucking and this
is my favorite hardcore band, Lily's singer, and I'm like

(01:08:19):
I'm just like fuck, I can't have been playing, you know.
And after a few rounds, he goes, right, man, are
you go do soundtrack? Have a good night? And I
was like, fucking, hey, dude, it's so sick, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Yeah. But uh, like so he might not have known
that you knew him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Well, I think he probably did, just because of how
like all hardcore kids kind of dressed the same, like,
you know what I mean, So he probably knew I
was there for you know, a reason. But they started
in Los Angeles, California. They started in two thousand and two.
They're known for their aggressive sound and intense live performances.
This is the band where Kathy got her nose broke recently. Yes,
because I was like, hardcore shows and metal shows are

(01:08:51):
two different things. He's like, Oh, I've been in metal shows.
It's fine. I'm like, okay, just be really careful. And
about halfway through terror set, I'm like, on the you
know what I'm saying on the side of the pit, you know,
because I've been I was like, I'm too old to
dance now. But right when they fucking started, I'm like,
I'm in the pit I got so I was in
and then the lights are kind of down and Kathy like,
I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
And I couldn't see that she was bleeding, and so
I thought she just said I'm gonna go downstairs. So
I'm like, yeah, all right, cool, I fun. But she
got a fucking nose broke, right, But uh so this
is this is hard. There's so many good songs on
the CD. So I chose to split my rage just
because I don't know why. But uh, some of the
lyrics of it or don't forget I know where you
come from. I watched it all, your every change from

(01:09:33):
nothing to something so fast you never had a chance
to learn a thing. And all their songs are kind
of like about hypocrisy, judging other people. You know, it
doesn't matter what other people think of you. You do
what you think is right. Stay close to the ones
that you love, and it's all that shit. Like just
when you're out of Terror show and there's other it's
some camaraderie that I don't you'll never feel it anywhere else

(01:09:57):
because everybody's fucking there. Everybody knows every line of the song.
Terror's the best hardcore band of all time. When they
I will see them. I've seen them like six or
seven times, but every time they come back, I have
to see them just because they're so good. I just
they like the words of this song. It just shows
like they're just staying for infe inauthenticity just I don't know, man,

(01:10:20):
just that I'll spit my fucking rage in your face.
It's just so you just feel it and you're just like,
it's just so good. There's another song called out in
My Face where it was like the beginning goes fuck
everything and everybody, all the hypocrites and the fakes. It's
just you just want to man, they're so fucking good
and I just love Terror and I'm gonna get a

(01:10:41):
Terror tattoo soon. They have this one whole lie, I
was gonna get my fucking buddy West got it instead
of me before me. I'm like, ah, you asshole. But yeah,
so Terror is the best hardcore band of all time.
If you're into hardcore music, I think you agree. If
they're not in your top three, they'll depth definitely be
in your top five.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
So no, I I've not been an experienced, like a
what's it called experience, I've not experienced metal and hardcore before.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Next time we would like drink on the weekends. I'll
show you a few hard Terror live shows, and I'll
show you some black my Heart because there's somewhere you
can see me in the pit and stuff like cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
That is rad, man, cool. Well, I like it's really
opened my eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
But I feel like this song that you chose in
my song, they're almost interchangeable.

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
Okay, all right, oh yeah, I'll break you down. It's
forty Oh my god, So did you watch the music

(01:12:02):
video for this?

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I was gonna say it kind of looks like Lady
Gaga sporty Spice, like her hair and everything is way
so different.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
The video is so this is for headlines that came
out in two thousand and seven, and it's all five
original Spice Girls. Oh really Yeah, So Ginger came back
for this and and Posha was still in it too,
and the music. They're like in a mansion and they're
all doing their own thing. But the Ginger Spice super
fucking fit, and she's like wearing almost like a bra

(01:12:29):
and like wind is blowing on her and she's just
a dancing Yeah. And then Posh Spice is wearing like
a very like what's it called versace, kind of like
strapped bondage thing. It's so fucking good. But anyways, so
I'm obviously super obsessed Spice Girls. They're amazing. Thank you
Andy for my dolls.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
By the way. By the way, well after we're gonna
they don't smell anymore. Oh yeah, so now we can
clean them and I have a way to make them
look really nice.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Oh god, Andy got me all five Spice Girl walls
from the tour where he saw him in ninety seven. Yeah,
I'm so fucking love Spice Girls. Anyways, So Spice Girls
kind of if you know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
They were okay, so the bottom online and whoever's house
they were in, they smell like smoke because I just said,
and they don't stink anything.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Oh why.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
So I love it. So Spice Girls made such a
like a like a imprint on pop culture. And they yeah,
and they were only and they only had two albums
with all five members, and they released one without Ginger
Spice and then they and then it was over. They
were the number one, like, uh female group of all

(01:13:34):
time and still are. Had amazing film if you like
take it as camp, but uh, Spice World such a
good movie if you're into like rocky horror, it's not
you know, there's a lot of the same actors are
in that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
And I think it's one of our best episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
So good. And so then this song, so they kind
of were done around ninety nine, two thousand, Spice Girls,
and then they came back a few years later, about
seven years later with this album that they went on tour,
and they went on tour again with just the four
of them, so Ginger was back in, Posh was out,
and and then covid happens that they couldn't make it

(01:14:10):
a world tour, So I'm hoping that they go on
tour again because that would be Amazon.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Well it's weird for like bands like that because all
they would have to do is just do one tour
once a week, right, just they just hit They're gonna
all make millions of dollars, Like how rich are you
to where someone's like, hey, you guys are all probably
make twenty million dollars and then you're like, I don't know,
like why wouldn't you. They're gonna sell out no matter
where they go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Yeah, but so Posh Spice is worth five hundred and
sixty three million, so she makes so much more than
she would get out of them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
If you had five hundred dollars And I said, hey,
if you go sing on stage and I'll give you
twenty bucks, would you do?

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
There's nothing better than me and a spice girl. But
say it's like being a spice boy all that. Okay,
Ginger Spy, I said this Andy, by the way, So
Posh Spice is worth that Ginger Spice is worth four
hundred and forty million dollars. Yeah, so she married like
a really famous phrase car driver or something. And then
she's also an author. I really want to like read
wonderful books, but it's like fantasy and I don't. I
can't do that. Yeah, okay, so the name is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
For fantasy is like, yeah, every fantasy book I try
to read, it's always like Mangamar is the Sun, Yeah,
Jachin and they're from the land of God. And I'm like,
I don't fucking know what a the time, Hank.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
By the time I learn everything, the book's over. So
and she only wears white now unless she's performing with
a Spice girl, she only wears white anyways. So that's
not like a fake thing, that's a true thing. Okay.
So Baby Spice is worth thirty million dollars. Sporty Spice
is worth twenty four million. But I feel like she's
the best, probably the best on a budget, like she like,

(01:15:50):
does it waste money? Yeah, is what I think. Okay.
So Scary Spice is worth four point seven million, So
that's that's pretty low compared to the fact that like
the Sole Decision lead singer makes one hundred and fifty millions.
I don't know what's up with that. So she tried
to get I don't know if this is true or not,

(01:16:11):
but it seemed to me like she had a hook
up with Eddie Murphy and then got knocked up with
his baby and then tried to get that money. But
it turned out that Eddie Murphy was like a good
dad apparently. So like they like split custody, so she
don't get like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Oh yeah, you know, like a month or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Yeah, so why is that matter? But it does, it
does right like it does. So anyway, So Spice girl's amazing.
I think that they harmonize amazingly. They're not the best singers,
I think, I just I think, Yeah, I think swarty
Spice is so good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
I was gonna say she's probably the best singer.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Yeah. They couldn't go on without her or probably scary.
I think they need the two of them and probably
babe and they like, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
It's like the thing to where alone they're okay, but
together the yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Know, like Poshwyes has her like clothing line, uh, Jerry
Ginger holliwell has her like a book things sportis. Ice
had a little bit of a music career, though she's
had quite a few albums she collabbed with Left Eye
from TLC. So there go. I'm just like reaching for
facts about Spy Scirls right now. But they are amazing

(01:17:22):
that song. I think it's very like for people that
are like diehard sporty spy or spy sgirl fans, that
song you know, meant a lot when it came out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Yeah, no, it's the song. It's really good and the
video is worth watching too because they still have the
kind of fun feeling of it. But they seem like mature.
I mean they are, they're you know, a couple of
years older. But it's weird. It's like it's almost like
a different band, but it has the same vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
It's weird, but I just love it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
And it's so funny that like they started so like
their nicknames came because they were getting when they were
coming up, they were recorded by this like kind of
misogynistic newsky, like like a reporter, and he could remember
their names, so he just named them based off like
what they kind of reminded him, so like this this weird.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Probably it was probably like Black were like, hey, we'll
just call you black. You can't call them I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Afraid of blacks, No, but they're they're amazing. So anyway,
so that was my number one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Yeah. Yeah, I think we had good songs. And I
do like that because like all our songs meant kind
of something to us, but we each had one song
that was huge. Yeah. Yeah, it was the usher and
the system of down.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Yeah I think that. Yeah, so I think I.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Mean different scales number one, but everybody knows that system
of down song too.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
So yeah, so mine mine. I feel like, yeah, we're
we're more. They brought back nostalgic vibes for me, but
hence why I chose them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
So I forgot to say another thing about Terror. So
I met Brook's mom at a Terror show. So that's
another reason why I put I picked Terror because if
it wasn't for So, I met her a few years
before we hooked up or whatever, and I was leaving
the Terror show and she was with some friends and
I kind of saw her once or twice at a

(01:19:11):
Salem show and uh so we were leaving Portland and I'm
just walking and uh she goes, hey, do you have fun?
And I thought she was talking to someone behind me,
So I was like me She's like, yeah you Andy,
and I'm like, oh, I didn't know you even knew
my name, and that's how we first started talking. So
if it wasn't for Terror that show, I wouldn't have
my youngest daughter. Shit crazy, right, Wow, thank you Terror.

(01:19:32):
Yeah yeah, it works pretty dope.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
So your groups were good, mine were good, and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
I think we killed this. But we do want to
hear what some of your favorite songs are from from
the year two thousand to two thousand and nine, and
you better not get the years wrong. If it's a
song from twenty ten, we'll fucking find.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
You, yeah, or two thousand eleven would have yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
leave this review or whatever. Tell us which one it is,
and we'll give it a little shout out. So find
us on Facebook, Instagram, email us credits. Andy Will will
give you that information and until next time, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Jeff I'm Andy Murphy, and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
We will see it. Oh okay, I was thinking Britty Murphy. Okay,
and we will see you next Tuesday. Don't even wire.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
And that's a wrap for this episode of Notable Nostalgia.
We hope you enjoyed our trip down memory lane just
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