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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Obsession.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Has anyone measured the four dimensions of the subconscious mind,
It might be a.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good trick if you could do it.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And if there were any devices long enough to reach
from end to end, the answer might come up as
the power of the infinite, which only an Einstein could
fatten out. And there is such a shortage of Einstein's
isn't there such meneration out of top priority by the
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universal director of scarce commodity allocation? In just a moment,
you'll hear the story of how a mind or spirit,
if you wish, reached into infinity out of the void
of death. It is called the Kiss of Kismet and
Stars Bartan Yarborough, a tale which grew from the seedings
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of was strange and primal obsession. The name India suggests
many things, doesn't it. The taj Mahal in the moonlight,
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the funeral gats burning along the banks of the Ganges,
Kipling's kim steaming jungles, Indian facours performing the impossible, the
great king Cobra deadly in its fooded wrath, striped tigers
stalking through the Banyan grove, and elephants be decked with
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jeweled trappings and a golden crusted holder bearing some fabulous maharaja.
Oh yes, and the monsoon. But let me give you
another picture of India, a place called Cardong Pass, which
lies north of the ancient city of Leh elevation eighteen
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thousand feet, where even in midsummer, the snow lies thick
along the Carolini Trail. Picture if you can, an exploratory
party approaching this pass, the tiny shaggy ponies plodding warily
along the precipitous ledge. A man named Warburton commands the train,
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and I don't think doing the liking.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Usole rasle. What the damnation is the matter up there?
What's the matter here? Get that horse onto its feet.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I think he's hurt his legs.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Are you nonsense? Just lazy, that's all.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Here?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Give me that ridle, Come on, get up, Yeah, you
lazy beggars came on his feet.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You'll go back where you.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Belong with you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I'll tend to this. Come on with the poor beastiars
third war.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
But look look how that leg's twisted.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
And I suppose we'll have to take the pack off him,
put it on the other horses.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Overloaded already we've come such a way.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Since morning, and they're so tired. Can't we camp here?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We're going as far as tunnel tonight.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, I don't see how we can do it with
the lame horse, and.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
We'll shoot it wrestle, get my rifle.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Missus Warburton. Perhaps you'd better go back and wait. Look
how the color.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Of the peaks have changed in the sunset.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I wonder how many sunsets they have seen since the
world began.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
They must be very old, very wise these months.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
What if they could talk and tell us what they know,
the very secret of life itself.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
I've heard that they can impart their knowledge to them.
It's fitted to receive it, Clyde.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yes, you love me, don't you what why?
Speaker 6 (04:33):
We're out of the world somehow up here we don't
have to lie and dissemble anymore. We don't have to
act according to it hetty defeat. We're We're beyond all that, Clyde.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I love you, grace you, you love me?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yes, yes, I do, I do.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I oh, But I can't tell you that.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I don't dare.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'd be a cat, I'd be a coward.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Those are only words, Clyde, little hypocritical words which we
make a chain to bind ourselves. You aren't a cad
you know you are. You're fine and strong. Oh I
want you to be strong. I want you to be
strong enough to break.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Your chain and my chain and take me away.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You you mean away from Roger.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Yes, well, I think the mountains have imparted to me
some of their knowledge, the knowledge that we have a
right to be happy, that our lives are our own.
I've never realized it before. I've only thought what I.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Was told to think and done what I was told
to do.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
But no, no, but you you can't be in earnest.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Oh but I aim.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
I'm dreadfully in earnest clad. You're You're not afraid, are you?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Not for myself. I don't matter. But you'll do. You
matter more than anything in the world. Oh, you can't,
you can't do it. You you couldn't face a scandal.
You you couldn't stay here, You couldn't go back to England.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Wouldn't have too. We could go to America. No one
would know it, no one would ever find out, and
we could be so happy there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
No, yes, yes we could.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Roger will be returning to Spinnegartoon. We'll wait till he goes,
then then we'll leave. We can catch a both.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
No, no, no, no, that won't do. We've got to
be honest in this thing. We can't sneak away like thieves.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I'll tell him.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Oh no, yes, don't you see, We've got to We've
got to face.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Him and tell him.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It's just as you say, Grace. We don't have to
lie in dis sable anymore. I'm going to tell him tonight,
as soon as we make camp. Have you lost Joe way?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
My children? I'm sorry if I frightened you.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
My graves.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's a lama from the monastery, that's all.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It is getting dark, and you were so busily engaged
you did not see me approaching. I fear have you
lost your way?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Why no? Our party is on the head where we're
going to tie to Tarno.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, yes, we'll we'll make camp there tonight.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You cannot go on.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It is getting dark.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You will lose your way.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Oh, we have guides. We we've been over the trail before.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
One must pass over the same trail many times before
one knows it.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Why.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I fancy we'll have no difficulty.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The wrong path is always difficult for out of today
tomorrow is made, and if today is error, tomorrow will
be error, and the next and the next, until the
end of time. Universes decay and out of their elements,
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new universes are formed, and the wanderer must continue to wander.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Why yes, sir, it's quite right, sir.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Good night my children, Oh money, pardon me.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Good night?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Cried Where did he come from?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Why up the trail?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I suppose I know he didn't. I was looking at
the trail all the time.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
There was no one near us, and all of a
sudden he was here, standing here.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well, those chaps go long distances of times and walk
with almost incredible rapidity. I've heard it said that they
induce a sort of hypnosis, practically hypnotize themselves, and travel
by what a monster walking in one's sleep?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
They wake up?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Why they're here?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Are there? It's not a half five way to travel?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And what was he talking about? What did he mean?
He said?
Speaker 6 (08:40):
Out of to day, tomorrow is made, and out of
tomorrow the next and the next, until the end of time,
until the end of time?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Way way? Why yes? Coming?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Will you tell him?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
As soon as we.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Make camp A Tano.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And jovits commence snow where in damnation have you been?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Don't you see it's getting darkly around the end of
the train.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I've been shouting for you for the last ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I don't think I don't see through your little trick
trying to delayer, so we'll have to camp here. Well,
we're not camping here. We're not stopping until we get
to tunnel. If it takes all night.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
You don't know how anxious I am to get to tunnel.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yes, we're very anxious.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Well, don't stand there, Grace, get on your horse. Looks
like we're in for a blizzard.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Russell off.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I can't go on any further.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
We've got to go on. We've got to reach down. Oh,
everything depends on that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
The rest of our lives.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Now up at the head of the column with Russell looked.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Like the trail replied we're lost. I know we're lost.
We've taken a rolling Oh now now we're all right.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
It's this storm.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
You can't recognize the trail here there, Grace, we're taking
me the only.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Path there is to take.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Let me take along.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Wait, wait a long.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Yes, after this, now, then lead your horses. What's up
the trailer it runs over a ledge. It's covered with snow.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
We don't know whether it's wide enough for the horses.
Somebody has got to go over it on foot first.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I see, well, well i'll go No slight, Oh you.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Better let rush to it. Wind's blowing a gale. Might
not be much of a ledge there. Well, let's have
a look at it anyway.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Wait, yeah there, wait.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'm coming too.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
There. It is covered with snow.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Hard to tell whether it's wide enough to cross. I
wouldn't attempt it. If you lost your footing, there wouldn't
be much left of you by the time you hit
the bottom of the canyon.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Oh yes, but there will be no danger if I
keep close to the inside edge.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
You mustn't we beat to daylight. You mustn't.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Well, we've we've got to get the town of you
keep part of this brace. Alright, alright, we'll waste me luck.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Had it it seems wide enough.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Here.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Wait a moment, dob, How isn't.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
There you ever ard enough with the horses? Why the moment?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Rotcha, roga, Look, it's just slide.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Cant you you come back?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Tie m.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
The reins had come and gone, and the heat lay
across India in a muffling torpor in the home of
Sab Memsab Warburton. The Punker fans were waving in the
humid air. The Memsab was escaping from herself. At the
moment in the notes of some Lost Melody, Warburton was
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in his inseparable way, acting as host to a house guest.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
That sort of thing might go in England, but not
here in India. Why say, uh, careful spot of brandy.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh, I don't mind if I do, have you pardon.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Me, I'll get it. I don't first serve he.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Don't stop.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
That sounds mighty pretty.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Oh, I'm tired of playing. I'd rather talk, mister Mortimer.
Have you ever been to the Buddhist monastery at Lama Yuru.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well, not exactly, ma'am. I've written past it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Why I want.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
To go there? I want to see it.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Roger's so busy that he can't possibly get away to
go with me.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I wonder if you'd mind, for i'd be gled to you.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
See I I have a rather special reason for going.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I know you'll think it's silly, but well, when Clyde
Jerome was killed, something strange happened to me.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I haven't told it to anyone.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
But you remember you came riding up the trail just
after they'd found him.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I say, hello there, Wait a minute, jan oh, oh,
wonder if you could give us a little help. We've
had rather a nasty accident up ahead. Chap went over
the edge of the cliff, swept off the ledge by
a snow slide. Wait, I'll have where some of my
boys come on.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That won't be necessary.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
My own boys have found him at the foot of
the cliff.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
They're bringing him up now.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I'd like to have you well as a witness. I'm
the only white man in the party, A friend of
yours and the Quentins Chap named Clyde Jerome.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Hooray, hooray, can't shoe We are hurry so.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
The trail up the cliff is slippery away.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, let me have a hold of that rope.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Get him under the arms there while I hang on
to this rope, I have.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You'd better get back, No, I want to. I want
to see you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I was you man.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Go to Oho Clyde's.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Bay, So bring me some water. Yeah, take the over.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Mm hmmm, grace, grace, grace, don't you hear me?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I'm calling to you, Cride, Glide, where are you? I
can't see you.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Touch out your hand.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You dog, No, I can't touch you.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
I you must listen to me, Grace.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I have only a little time to talk. Can you
hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I I loved you, Grace, But I was wrong in nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You no, no, no, it wasn't wrong.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
We could never have been happy.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I know that now.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Happiness could never come from wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It is better that I died.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I must go now, don't go, don't, don't another moment.
I can't give you up.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I won't.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
A woman might faint and come out of it believing
that she had talked to a dead man. There is
nothing particularly unusual about that, and of course there was
no question that Clyde Jerome is dead. As I say,
it was some months after the accident that Missus Warburton
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went to the Buddhist monastery at Lama Yuru. It was
late afternoon, the time of the ceremony.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Oh money, but may whom my han?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Why come on it's over now? Llama?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yes him, sab Warburton.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
What well, how did you know? An we sent for you?
Speaker 6 (18:24):
But I I don't understand. I received no message from
anyone at.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
The proper time had run its course. We sent for you,
and you came. And you you are from a far
away country, Sahib, and you will return there soon.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Why?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes, yes, i I'm going back next say how well?
That is well. But what you will hear today is
best not repeated in this country. He will come this
way him sah.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
This call it.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
There is dark and shop if you will follow closely
behind me this way. I had music that was the
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echo of yourself, and sob wait here in the chapel.
I will send brother shape to you.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
He will be here in a moment. Mister Mortimer, did
you hear that music?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
For I know I didn't hear anything, right.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I wish we hadn't come.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Why did you come anyway?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
All of a sudden I I wanted to come here.
But it's so dark and quiet, and that music I
never heard anything like it before.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I am brother shahfa yes who yes, ma'am sab.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You are at war with your life.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
You wish to change that which cannot be changed, for
to day is made of yesterday, and yesterday cannot be altered.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
But I don't understand what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You were in love with a man, and now now
he is dead.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Now he is in another phase, another plane of existence.
He must live out his life on that plane as
he lived it out here, and you must live out
your life here.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
But why why do you tell me this?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Because you refuse to let him go.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You refuse to.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Let him live out his life in another plane. You
refuse to give him up. And because that refusal, he
is handicapped. You must let him go, You must put
him out of your mind, out of your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I could never do that, It's all I have.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
If he asked you to release him.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
What do you mean? Is in his grave?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
And if I could bring him back from his grave?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh, why do you talk like that? You're only tormenting me.
He is dead.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
You have not answered my question, Ma'm sab. If he
should come and show himself to you, show himself as
an appeal to you for his release, then would you believe?
Would you?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (21:42):
If you could bring him out of the grave, if
you could prove to me that he wants me to forget,
then then I would believe that I would give him up.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Grace, who that boy?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Grace?
Speaker 6 (21:59):
No, No, you're trying to trick me, A trick of
the voice, that's.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
All, a trick.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Grace, Grace, look at me, Glide Glade.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You have been listening to Obsession