FIEND DROP: Reputation for the Uncanny (UFOs & Camping Horrors)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This distinguished anthology of spook shows. Personally, I've never met
anybody who didn't like a good ghost story. But I
know a lot of people who think there are a
lot of people who don't like a good ghost story.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I met with October. The voice you hear is legendary actor, director, writer,
narrator and raconteur Orson Wells. This is the start of
October Pod.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's already been called a real Orson well story. Now, Frankly,
I don't know what this means. I've been on the air,
directing and acting in my own shows for quite a
while now, and I don't suppose I've done more than
half a dozen thrillers and all that time. Honestly, I
don't think even that many. But it seems I do
have a reputation for the uncanny. Quite possibly a little

(00:55):
escapade of mine involving a couple of planets which shall
be nameless, is responsible.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
He's right, you know. From the moment he produced his
proto found footage radio adaptation of the War of the
Worlds for the Mercury Theater on the air, Wells forged
his reputation as a master of horror. For the remainder
of his career. In this introduction for the radio anthology Suspense,
Wells is underselling his association with horror and the uncanny true.

(01:26):
Wells never made a straight up horror film, but just
look at his output in the medium of old time radio.
Let's start with suspense. The story he's introducing is The Hitchhiker,
written by Lucille Fletcher, who also wrote the masterful radio
thriller Sorry Wrong Number. It's easily one of the creepiest

(01:47):
radio dramas ever broadcast. It's the story of a man
being haunted by an otherworldly hitchhiker on a long road
trip from New York to California. It was later remade
as an episode of the Twilight Zone, and anyone who's
seen Carnival of Souls or Jacob's Ladder might be able
to guess the ending. Take The Shadow. Wells is the

(02:10):
first actor to play the supernatural detective Lamont Cranston and
his creepy alter ego, The Shadow, in an ongoing radio
series devoted to the character. There's plenty of horror to
be found there. Listen to one of our older episodes,
the one called Where Evil Lurks to hear more about
Wells and the Shadow. Finally, Wells himself portrayed both Doctor

(02:35):
Seward and Count Dracula in Mercury Theatre's adaptation of Bram
Stoker's Dracula.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
A Blood, Blood.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Wipe the blood from your face, mister Marker, and take
care how your conscious here.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Outside of radio, as a filmmaker, Wells mostly directed art
films and Shakespeare adaptations, with occasional work for hire direct
in gigs sprinkled in. But even his least horrific pictures
contain touches of horror and haunting images that would influence
generations of horror creators. In Citizen Kane, the title character's

(03:14):
sprawling mansion Xanadu is rendered like a nightmarish, haunted house
even before it falls to ruin. In his noir film
To End All Noir films, a Touch of Evil, Wells
delivers stark, black and white compositions and morally ambiguous characters
that would feel right at home in a gothic pot boiler.

(03:36):
Just add some ghosts or an axe wielding psychopath and stir,
and then there's Wells's nineteen forty two Republic Pictures adaptation
of Macbeth.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Collary Oil and color fiable and caldron boring Sula.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
That has it done?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Nine Pharaoh Chris, that's sweating from the murderer stibt Onto, the.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Flame finger of birth, strangled bay.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
Ditch, delivered by a rap thick and slam like a
hell ron boil moror.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Or a charm of powerful trouble.

Speaker 7 (04:24):
When shall we three meet again in thunder?

Speaker 8 (04:29):
I think raye rein, when the ear labor leaves, on,
when the bats floors, and what that will bear the
cell of sun there.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
To meet with the best.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I defy anyone to watch this picture and argue with
a straight face that it doesn't look and feel like
a horror film. The black and white photography, the heavy fog,
and gothic castle sets conspire to recreate the atmosphere of
a universal monster picture. Wells himself referred to it as
a perfect cross between Wuthering Heights and Bride of Frankenstein.

(05:15):
The depiction of the witches carrying crooked staves and controlling
Macbeth's destiny through the use of a fetish or effigy
of him like a voodoo doll, is evocative of Folkhoor.
Speaking of voodoo dolls, did you know that Wells wrote
a stage adaptation of Macbeth set on a Caribbean island
with a cast of all black actors. Scottish witchcraft was

(05:39):
replaced with witch doctors and Haitian voodoo, earning the nineteen
thirty six production the nickname Voodoo Macbeth.

Speaker 9 (05:48):
The scene was changed from Scotland to Haiti, but the
spirit of Macbeth and every line in the play has
remained intact. In this contribution to the American Theater and
another project under the Works program, we have set our
feet on the road Door to Right Up.

Speaker 8 (06:00):
Ult.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Show Wow Up.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Incidentally, Wells co directed this production with his Mercury Theater
collaborator John Houseman, whom horror fans may recognize from the
film's Ghost Story Scrooge and John Carpenter's The Fog War
of the Worlds The Shadow Dracula Macbeth. Any one of

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these would be enough to crown Wells as a horror icon.
But during the nineteen eighties, a period when he was
doing a lot of acting for hire jobs to find
passion projects like the Other Side of the Wind, Wells
appeared in his most frightening picture, The Man Who Saw Tomorrow. Okay,
hear me out. The year is nineteen eighty seven. You're

(06:58):
in the third grade, the day before Thanksgiving break starts,
and your teacher doesn't much feel like teaching that day,
so she wheels out a TV and a VCR on
one of those metal carts that all schools used to have,
switches off all the lines and turns on this.

Speaker 8 (07:19):
Let me warn you now that the predictions to the
future I'm not at all comforting.

Speaker 10 (07:26):
In the year nineteen ninety nine and seven months from
the sky will come the great King of Terror. He
will bring back to life the King of the Mongols,
before and after war reigns. Out of the country of
Greater Arabia shall be born a strong master of Mohammedan law.

(07:47):
This king will enter Europe wearing a blue turban. He
is one that you'll cause the infernal gods of.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
Hannibal to live again.

Speaker 10 (07:57):
He will be the terror of mankind never more, horror,
warfare on a greater scale than ever before explosions. There
will be a great onstaught.

Speaker 8 (08:10):
What would you do if you sought you knew the
exact day World War III would break out.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
And who might start it, where it might be fought,
and who might be left when it was over him.
Where would you go? How would you protect your family?
There will be terror, terror.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Terror, Jesus Christ. They showed this in school, so it
must be true. It's narrated by Orson wells intoning ominous
predictions of the future with his godlike voice from a
wood panel to Victorian study that might as well belong
to Sherlock Holmes or Professor van Helsing and cousin. He

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skulks around that set in his plus size black suit,
puffing a cigar like a horror host, ready to scare
us so badly that will drop our trick or treat
sacks and run. Yes, the Man who Saw Tomorrow might
well be responsible for more gen X elementary school aged
nightmares than any other film. This documentary, with dramatic reenactments

(09:18):
and done in the style of a big budget feature
length episode of In Search of, investigates the life and
predictions of Nostradamus. The picture begins with a grave robber
being shot to death after drinking from the skull of
the dead French soothsayer, and ends with a lurid dramatization

(09:39):
of a prophesized nuclear powered World War III that would
look right at home in a mid budget sci fi picture.
Throughout the film, Wells recounts all the Nostradamus predictions that
allegedly came true, with the sobriety of a news anchor
and allowing very little room for skepticism. If there a

(10:00):
twinkle in Wells's eye, it was too subtle for young
audiences to detect. So by the end, when the predictions
turned to the far off year nineteen ninety nine and
talk of a dreaded third Antichrist who starts World War
III wearing a blue turban, all of us kitties were
ready to begin lifelong careers as doomsday preppers. It was

(10:23):
this film that cemented Orson Wells a place in my
mind as a true horror legend. Like all legendary figures,
Orson Wells has had more than a few legends a
varying veracity, pop up about him. I'll be back during
the intermission to discuss two legends about Orson Wells that
I frequently see repeated as fact, one of them involving

(10:46):
a certain Martian invasion in Grover's Mill, New Jersey, and
speaking of alien invasions, Emma Tash and Becky of Spine
chillers and serial killers are here to share with you,
among other things, the case of a strange disappearance which
might have been the result of extraterrestrial visitors.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Ladies, I'm Emma, I'm Tash, and I'm Becky.

Speaker 11 (11:14):
Hello, Hello everybody.

Speaker 12 (11:18):
So this week I am talking about the disappearance of
Frederick Valentich. Frederick Valentich was born on the ninth of
June nineteen fifty eight to parents Guido and Albertina Valentich.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
I love the name Guido, such a fun name.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (11:39):
The family lived in Melbourne, Australia, and little Frederick always
dreamed of aviation and aspired to become a commercial airline pilot,
a dream that he did follow, but with many setbacks.
Once he was of age, he tried to join theraf
but was rejected twice because of his inadequate education qualifications.

(12:01):
He then started working towards his commercial pilot's license and
had racked up one hundred and fifty hours of flying experience,
which allowed him to fly at night as long as
the weather conditions permitted it. At the age of twenty,
he fell in love with a sixteen year old called
Rhonda Rushton. This is nineteen fifty eight.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, I imagine that it was okay.

Speaker 11 (12:23):
And if he was twenty four when she was twenty,
we wouldn't question it.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
But I was definitely sixteen going out with a twenty
one year old, so yeah, and now we all realize
that that was kind of not Yeah, that was not correct.

Speaker 11 (12:37):
But he had a car.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
He did, he did, he had a car.

Speaker 12 (12:43):
So yeah, he's in love with a girl called Ronda
Rushton who's sixteen. They quickly began a serious relationship, and
after just a few months, Frederick proposed to Ronda using
a friendship ring, promising her that he would replace it
with a proper engagement ring as soon as he could.
Ford it that sweet, ma, that is sweet. At least

(13:05):
his intentions were pure, like he you know, he wanted
to marry her.

Speaker 13 (13:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (13:12):
He often took Rhoda flying with him, and she described
him as a diligent and responsible pilot. Despite this description
from Roonda, it must be known that Frederick had also
received several warnings after flying once into a restricted zone
in Sydney and twice into clouds. On October twenty first,

(13:32):
nineteen seventy eight, Frederick rented as Cessna one eight two L,
a popular single engine light airplane that had been widely
used for personal, instructional and light commercial purposes. For a
training flight from more Rabin to King Island, a one
hundred and twenty five mile trek of the Bay Strait.

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Given the typical cruising speed of the Cessna one eight
two L, which is around one hundred and forty knots approx.
One hundred and sixty miles per hour or two hundred
and sixty kilometers per hour, that should get everybody covered.
The flight should have taken about one to one and
a half hours under normal conditions. The tank was fully fueled,
which would allow five hours of flying time, give or take.

(14:16):
So he's got plenty of fuel, the weather conditions are good,
or his hunky dory. He had told some that he
was going to pick up friends, and others had been
told that he was going to pick up crayfish. So
he's been a bit sketchy there. It's not given the
same reasons for the flight, and neither of the stories
turned out to be true. In fact, it came to

(14:38):
light later that Frederick hadn't even informed the King Island
Flight Service of his arrival, which, of course was against protocol.
This information only adds to the mystery around his disappearance.
He left more Rabin Airport at approximately six nineteen pm
and would never be seen again. At nineteen hundred hours

(15:01):
local time, Valentinch radio that he had Cape Otway in sight,
which was on his flight path, so we can assume
he was on track and in the right place at
the right time. According to the weather station, the weather
in Cape Otway was clear, excellent visibility and light winds.
At nineteen oh six, Frederick radioed Melbourne Flight Service asking

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if there were any other aircrafts around him, to which
there replied there was none. He said he was being
followed by a craft with what looked like four bright
landing lights and one big green light. He said the
craft appeared to be playing with him and traveling at
great speeds. He asked again if there were any military

(15:45):
planes around, as he couldn't quite grasp what he was seeing,
but nothing was supposed to be flying near him. He
then stated that the craft had vanished altogether, but had
quickly reappeared and was back on his tail. The radio
then fell silent except for the sound of a strange
metallic scraping and then nothing. That was the last time

(16:09):
anyone would ever hear from Frederick Valentich. So I have
the actual transcript of his final moments here, and the
fabulous Edward October from October pod Am and Mike from
brew Crime have done little voiceovers so that we can
actually listen to the transcript. I love it, I know,

(16:34):
bless them, so thank you very much. Go check their
podcasts out, go give them five star ratings because they
are my best podcast friends and they're always helping us out.
So and this also has been edited by Edward October,
who is an absolute whiz at what he does.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
So here we go.

Speaker 13 (16:51):
I'll play it for you now, Melbourne, this is Delta
Sire at juliet Is there any known traffic below five
thousand delta Theer Juliette. No known traffic. I am seems
to be a larger aircraft below five thousand Delta Sierra Juliette.

(17:13):
What type of aircraft is it? I cannot affirm. It
is four bright. It seems to me like landing lights
Delta Sier Juliette. Melbourne, this is Delta Sierra juliet The
aircraft has just passed over me at least at least

(17:35):
one thousand feet above Delta ser juliet Roger and it
is a large aircraft. Confirm unknown due to the speed
it's traveling. Is there any air force aircraft in the
vicinity Delta THEA Juliette. No known aircraft in the vicinity Melbourne.
It's approaching now from due east towards me, Delta Sier Juliette.

(18:07):
It seems to me that he's playing some sort of game.
He's flying over me two three times at a time.
It speeds that I could not identify. Delta Sier Juliette. Roger.
What is your actual level? My level is four and
a half thousand four five zero zero Delta Sierra Juliette.

(18:28):
And confirm you cannot identify the aircraft. Affirmative, Delta Sierra Juliette.
Roger standby, Melbourne, Delta Sierra juliet It's not an aircraft.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
It is.

Speaker 13 (18:48):
Delta Sierra Juliette, Melbourne. Can you describe the aircraft as
it's flying past. It's a long shape. Cannot ident if
i'd more than that it has such speed. It is
before me right now, Melbourne, Delta Sier Juliette. Roger and

(19:10):
how large would the object be? Melbourne. It seems like
it's stationary. What I'm doing right now is orbiting, and
the thing is just orbiting on top of me. Also,
it's got a green light and sort of metallic like

(19:35):
it's all shiny on the outside. Delta Sier Juliette. It's
just vanished, Delta Theer Juliette, Melbourne. Would you know what
kind of aircraft I've got? It is a type of
military aircraft. Delta Theer juliet.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Confirm that aircraft gets vanished.

Speaker 13 (20:00):
Say again, Delta theor Juliette. Is the aircraft still with you?
It's a nor now approaching from the southwest. Delta their Juliette.
The engine is is rough idling. I've got it set

(20:22):
at twenty three twenty four and the thing is coughing.
Delta theor Juliette, Roger, what are your intentions? My intentions
are to go to King Island, Melbourne. That strange aircraft
is hovering on top of me. Again, it is hovering

(20:47):
and it's not an aircraft. Doulta Ser Juliette, Melbourne, Julia,
No one hell.

Speaker 12 (21:12):
And there you go.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Now, just to.

Speaker 12 (21:17):
Clarify, none of that has been dramatized on the transcript.
The moments of silence and open radio and sound distortion
was all written down and Ed has copied that to
a tea, so none of that was dramatized.

Speaker 11 (21:32):
Wow, it's quite intense, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (21:35):
Yeah, it's very odd. I think that's probably the closest
thing we'll ever get to hear, hearing like the proper audio.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, you could almost say that that was like the
proper audio. You could have said, we've got the audio,
and I wouldn't have known who it was. I'd be like, oh,
this is really clear audio as brilliant, well done, brilliant.

Speaker 12 (22:02):
Like from Breu Crime and from October pot Am go
give him a five star review just for that, because
that's brilliant.

Speaker 14 (22:09):
But how bizarre, how strange that noise at the end,
it was eerie, very very You could like imagine with
how they were describing it and the noises and stuff,
you can kind of imagine it happened.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
How scary would that be? Yeah, and there was nothing
what you're probably gonna get into this is nothing ever
found like no shrapnel.

Speaker 12 (22:37):
Okay, I've got a little bit more. So that was
of course an extensive search for Frederick in the air
and see, but not a single trace of him or
the plane was found, and eventually the vanishing was considered
fatal and the case was closed. Now the big question,
what on earth happened to Frederick valantche The first theory,

(23:01):
of course, is that he was an unexperienced pilot and
it was nighttime, he got disorientated, turned upside down and
was actually seeing his own reflection in the water, and
eventually crashed into the ocean.

Speaker 11 (23:15):
Semi plausible.

Speaker 12 (23:17):
Apparently it does happen with pie.

Speaker 11 (23:19):
You know you're upside down though, because like, yeah, would
be like rap, but maybe well you'dn't had short hair,
I don't know anyway.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Oh my cheeks, you go, my boobs would be in
my face.

Speaker 12 (23:35):
Yeah, but it does have holes. It doesn't account for
the metallic shine the other craft appeared to have, or
that he saw it flying past him and over and
underneath and in one instance disappearing altogether.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, both scenarios are terrifying. The imagine him not knowing
that he's flying upside down and he could see himself
in the water, that as well is absolutely terrifying.

Speaker 12 (24:03):
I mean, it's to do with planes. So I'm terrified anyway,
because I absolutely petrified aeroplanes. II yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Then,
of course, if we forget most of the transcript, he
did describe engine issues. So one theory is plainly that
his engine failed, resulting in a crash. Okay, so there

(24:26):
was also a meteor shower that night that could possibly
account for the lights in the sky he was seeing,
and if it was disorientated, maybe he was seeing them
pass at great speed and thought it was a type
of unknown craft. And then the most obvious and yet
the less likely theory is he encountered a UFO.

Speaker 11 (24:46):
Ironically, I don't think it is the less likely theory.
I think that's the most plausible explanation, is that because
we do this podcast, probably probably.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
I was just saying uf I was like, what other
explanations could there be?

Speaker 12 (25:07):
I agree, I agree, But you know, I think UFO
abductions and all that, it's still very not taboo. But
does it happen.

Speaker 11 (25:20):
I don't know, Yes, and yes it does. Okay, I
just think sorry, sorry, I mean I'm interjecting right here.

Speaker 12 (25:29):
You're fine.

Speaker 11 (25:30):
I actually think we would be really narcissistic as a
race to believe that we are the only beings ever
on our planet, that there's no other life anywhere else
apart from what we know.

Speaker 12 (25:46):
I think the point is it's obviously life on other
planets in other galaxies, but they're so far away that
to come and visitors that their technology would have to
be extremely advanced. And if they were that advanced, why
would they waste their time coming to visit us?

Speaker 11 (26:06):
It was it would be a bit like sorry, have
you met us three? Alone?

Speaker 15 (26:12):
That's why.

Speaker 11 (26:15):
Maybe technologies advanced, but have they got the humor of us?
I don't think.

Speaker 12 (26:20):
Maybe maybe they just come down to like tune into
spantillas and serial killers. To go back again to mention it,
are they talking about us?

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Are they fangirling over.

Speaker 12 (26:34):
Crescent?

Speaker 16 (26:34):
You're on?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
You're on?

Speaker 12 (26:36):
They're talking about the sex?

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Oh dear, I'm just joking. I don't know if that's
offensive two aliens.

Speaker 12 (26:48):
I think people compare it to as if we'd spend
a load of energy and time going to another planet
to visit ants. Basically, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
I think this. I could be properly super narcissistic for
saying this as a race, but I think the fact
that humans got as intelligent as they did was an accident,
And I don't know if that would happen again, because
if you look at everything else compared to like a

(27:22):
human brain, that just sounds really really full of ourselves.
And I heard someone else side there was a scientist
talking about it, and he said that he just thought
it just think that the humans becoming as intelligent as
we have over his very short period of time was
just an accident. And have we reached the max, you know,

(27:46):
the max of how intelligent that we can become a
we going to just become more stupid now because of
the technology that we created. There was a whole big thing.
I'll have to try and find the documentary about it.
It was really interesting. But then it had explained that
maybe one of the other planets where there's life that
like you're saying that it's just there's just a lot

(28:08):
of fish or a lot of insects or a lot
of dinosaurs or whatever, grew their.

Speaker 12 (28:13):
First there's probably yeah, there's probably that. But if we
take into account that there are UFOs and UFOs are
actually aliens coming yeah to the planet, then they have
to be a lot more evolved than us because there
isn't the technology otherwise to travel from the distance that
they're traveling, because we haven't found life one of the

(28:34):
planets anywhere near us, and as far as I know, we've.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Explored quite yeah, quite far away.

Speaker 12 (28:40):
So I think it's more that that they would need
some extremely high tech gear to get to us. Yeah,
but their life things are really intelligent, like dolphins and
kills rapists that I.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Say, Yeah, we don't talk about dolphins here.

Speaker 11 (28:59):
We don't talk Carbadolephi.

Speaker 13 (29:02):
No, no, no.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
That took me three years to get that song out
of my head. Thanks Tasha. Straight back now.

Speaker 12 (29:12):
Anyway, moving on, So the less likely or more likely,
depending on who you are, is that he encountered a UFO.
Uphologists in the area said there were sightings of crafts
in the sky that night and the day after his disappearance.
One group even claims to have a photograph that was
taken near where Frederick vanished that shows a UFO, but

(29:36):
it also has been judged too blurry to be used
as proof. A farmer that remained anonymous, claimed he saw
a huge craft above his farm and saw Frederick's plane
attached to it, and he said the plane was leaking
fuel UFO groups have tried to find said farmer, but
to no avail. But judging by his final conversation and

(29:57):
the many sightings we know to be real modern day pilots,
is it really all that unlikely that Frederick was in
fact abducted by aliens. I feel like the more the
government's tell us, the more likely the possibility is. The
weird thing is is that Frederick had a fear of
experiencing a UFO encounter. He spoke of it often with

(30:20):
his father and his girlfriend, stating that he if he
ever saw one, he would only go willingly if Roonda
came too, but in all reality the idea terrified him.
The last theory is that he planned his own disappearance
or committed suicide, but this has been hugely debunked by
his friends and families, stating that he had a very

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happy and excited feeling about his future plans with Rohonda
and would never do something like that. Five years after
the event, an engine cowl flap washed ashore on Flinders Island.
The Bureau of Air Safety Investigation noted that the park
came from the same type of aircraft Valentinch was piloting,

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and that it had serial numbers within the same range
as Valentinch's plane, but could not confirm with certainty that
it was his plane. His father spent his lifetime praying
that he had been abducted by aliens and not crashed,
because that gave him hope that he might see him again. Sadly,
he died in two thousand, never getting the answers he'd

(31:25):
so desperately wanted. The disappearance of Frederick Valentinch remains one
of aviation's most enduring mysteries. This case continues to captivate
and puzzle researchers and enthusiasts alike, with no definitive answers
emerging in the decades since the event.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
And there you go, oh wow, that's alarming.

Speaker 12 (31:51):
It's a bit disturbing, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (31:54):
Yeah, it is just mildly.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
I think I just sounded a lot more panicked those recordings.
So he's a very brave person. Have you thought that
he saw a UFO and was still kind of staying calm.

Speaker 12 (32:08):
Staying cool.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Yeah, cool as a cuke.

Speaker 12 (32:11):
Yeah, So yeah, what do you think happened to him?

Speaker 5 (32:15):
UFO? Despite just having just said I don't think we're
the only ones definitely the UFO.

Speaker 12 (32:24):
Tash UFO.

Speaker 11 (32:25):
Yeah, I mean what else I mean, there is our options,
but oh I think UFI same UFO.

Speaker 12 (32:34):
Okay, we've sourceed it. We have we debunked it. Yeah,
we solved it.

Speaker 11 (32:40):
Problem solved twenty four All it's it was three women
on a podcast.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Monsters do have their place in the zoom, in your nightmares,
in the deep, in your favorite horror movies, but.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
Not on your phone.

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brief ad break. It's intermission time, folks. I'm your host,
mister Edward October. Today we're talking about the legend that
is orson Wells, even if you're not familiar with his films.

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I bet you've heard about the time he drove tens
of thousands of frightened radio listeners into a panic, believing
that the earth was being invaded by martians.

Speaker 17 (34:16):
But you know it's something happening. I'm shaped rising out
of the pit, and then they out a small beam
of light against the mirror. The bet you could get
the flame springs in the mirror. At least bite of
the back of men strikes some head on. Lord, you're
turning in a flame.

Speaker 18 (34:36):
By the wood, the private the peck thanks to the
automobile fighting everywhere, coming your way out.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
On the night before Halloween in nineteen thirty eight, at
the tender age of twenty three, Wells broadcast his adaptation
of H. G. Wells's Victorian sci fi classic The War
of the Worlds for the radio program Mercury Theater.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
On the Air.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Instead of a straightforward narrative, he presented the tale as
a newscast, or more precisely, as a series of breaking
news segments interrupting a program of dance music, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 18 (35:16):
I've just been handled a message that came in from
Grover's Mill by telephone.

Speaker 19 (35:20):
That's one moment.

Speaker 20 (35:20):
Please. At least forty people, including six.

Speaker 18 (35:23):
State troopers, lie dead in a field east of the
village of Grover's Mill, their bodies burned and distorted beyond
all possible recognition. The next voice you hear will be
that of Brigadier General Montgomery Smith, commander.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Of the statement.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
This was a very effective technique, especially for listeners who
were accustomed to being glued to their radios for news
about the war brewing in Europe. It was so effective
that many listeners were convinced that a Martian invasion was underway.
The next morning, Halloween, the newspapers were ablaze with stories
of the thousands of people who tuned in, taking to

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the street in a panic and calling on law enforcement
to do something about the aliens who were landing in
their farms and marching on their homes to do god
knows what with their death rays. But is that really
how it went down. Let's take a look, and from
here I'm going to rely heavily on a Snope's article

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about the event. First of all, let's take a look
at the sensationalized newspaper coverage it was well sensationalized. Much
of the reporting was based solely upon anecdotal evidence and

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hearsay from unnamed and otherwise sketchy sources, and of the
accounts of panic which might have been true, those people
were more likely concerned that they'd heard news of a
German invasion than a Martian invasion, a much more plausible scenario,
to be sure. Now take the format of the broadcast.

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It's true that the episode does contain lots of realistic
sounding news broadcasts, but it also contains stuff.

Speaker 18 (37:10):
Like this The Columbia Broadcasting System and its affiliated stations
present Orson Wells and the Mercury Theater on the Air
in the War of the World by HG.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Wells.

Speaker 18 (37:22):
While listening to a CBS presentation of Orson Wells and
the Mercury Theater on the Air in an original dramatization
of the War of the World by HG.

Speaker 20 (37:30):
Wells.

Speaker 13 (37:32):
The performance will continue after a brief intermission.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
This is the Columbia Broadcasting System The War of the
World by HG. Wells, starring Orson Wells and the Mercury.

Speaker 13 (37:42):
Theater on the Air.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
You see that this show announces that this is all
for pretend that it is based upon a famous novel,
and that it stars a famous actor whose voice can
easily be recognized. Wells was very popular at the time
for being a wunderkind of stage and radio. The show
even begins with its customary introduction, and so anyone frightened

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by news of a Martian attack must have started listening
somewhere in the middle of the program. But then there's
stuff like.

Speaker 13 (38:13):
This, where are we to live in the Martians on
the earth?

Speaker 6 (38:16):
I got at all figure to live underground.

Speaker 18 (38:19):
I've been thinking about the sewers, and in New York
they are.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Miles and miles of them.

Speaker 18 (38:23):
The main ones are big enough for anybody begin to
see us.

Speaker 21 (38:26):
We've got a bunch of strong men.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
To get it.

Speaker 17 (38:27):
No, we got rubbish out as you meant me to go.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
You got to make safe places for us to stay.

Speaker 19 (38:35):
And see that all the books we can, science books.

Speaker 22 (38:38):
That's where men like you come in.

Speaker 18 (38:39):
See we raid the museums will even spire on the Martians.

Speaker 8 (38:43):
It may not be so much we have to learn before.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
Just imagine this, Four or five of their own fighting
machine suddenly.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Start off heat, raised right and left.

Speaker 23 (38:52):
Not a Martian in them, not a Martian in them.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
See, but men, men who've learned the way, how may
even in our time imagine having one of them lovely
things with a peat ray wide and flee.

Speaker 14 (39:03):
We turn it on Martians, We turn it on men.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
We bring everybody down on their knees.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
That's your plan.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
It is frequently remarked that panicked listeners must have tuned
in at the end of the show, but if they had,
they would have been tuning into something that sounded very
remarkably like the type of radio drama Mercury Theater normally presented.
To be frightened at the prospect of a real Martian attack,
you'd have to miss the intro identifying the show, as

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well as a preamble taken straight from the novel read
by Wells himself. Listen to the latter half of the
first act, but not continue listening through the act break
or the conventionally structured last half, or the outro, during
which Wells reveals the whole thing to be a Halloween prank.
Is this how thousands of listeners experienced the broadcast?

Speaker 16 (39:54):
Not likely.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Here's what we know. First of all, it's difficult to
know how many people were listening. Not a lot of
this sort of data was being collected at the time,
but it's estimated that only about two percent of the
American radio audience was listening to Mercury Theater. It was
more likely that they were listening to one of ventriloquist

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Edgar Bergen's wildly popular programs. Yes, you heard that right.
A ventriloquist, someone whose success as a performer depends upon
convincing you that you were seeing a wooden dummy do
all the talking, was one of the hottest stars of
old time radio. These numbers seem to jive with the
findings of an internal survey done by CBS. Now I've

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read somewhere else, and I apologize. I can't find the
source that Wells knew people were listening to Edgar Bergen,
and so he structured the script in such a way
that the juiciest Martian attack stuff would be timed to
happen right when Bergen's audience might be scanning the dial
for something else to listen to during the musical interlude

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on the Edgar Bergen Show. Take it with a grain
of salt, but I think this theory has a ring
of truth to it. The War of the Worlds it seems,
may not have sparked mass hysteria, but it did provoke
people in radio and later television to take a closer
look at the habits of their audience. It's safe to
say that any of us who have a podcast or

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YouTube channel can thank Orson Wells every time we check
our analytics. And in this age of misinformation being spread
and public outrage being stoked by social media or even
worse a I, the lessons of media literacy to be
learned from studying the Wells broadcast are as timely now

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as they were in the nineteen thirties.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
That grinning, blowing, globular invada of your living room is
an inhabitant of the punkin patch. And if your doorbell
rings and nobody's there, that was no martian at Halloween.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Wells also an amateur magician, not a very good one, though,
was always interested in trickery. Trickery especially trickery of the
art forgery persuasion is the subject of his film F
for Fake. It's not quite a documentary and not quite
a narrative film. You could perhaps call it a YouTube
video essay made well before YouTube.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Who is Elma? That question has yet to be answered
with any real precision. Among all fakers, elmir is number two.

Speaker 20 (42:33):
The important distinction to make when you're talking about the
genuine quality of a painting is not so much whether
it's a real painting or a fake.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
It's whether it's a good fake or a bad fake. Now,
this is a promise.

Speaker 8 (42:53):
During the next hour, everything you'll hear from this is
really true and based on solid fact.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Wells employs a lot of subtle deceptions as easter eggs
in his film on Fakes and Forgeries. For example, he
mentions the fake Martian invasion he conjured up, but instead
of inserting audio from the actual broadcast into his film,
he uses a campy recreation of the original broadcast and
then passes the recreation off as the real thing. F

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for Fake just might be my favorite of all the
films Wells directed, and it's available on Blu Ray through Criterion.
Wells made this film during the latter half of his career,
when he was living a more or less nomadic lifestyle
in Europe, trying his damnedest to raise money for film
projects that he was unable to get American financing for.

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Another method Wells use to raise funds was through voiceover
work and appearing in commercials. His deep, godlike voices the
stuff dreams are made of, especially if you're an ad executive.
Wells was a much sought after pitchman, even if he
wasn't always the easiest cat to work with.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Every July please grow. There were even in the fields.
You see we're talking about him growing and she's picked him.

Speaker 7 (44:09):
What I don't understand you, then? Why must what must
be over for July when we get out of the field.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
When I was out, we were onto a can.

Speaker 7 (44:17):
Of peas, a big dish of peace. When I said,
in July, do you have to find in in July quiet?
That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Sorry, there's no known way of saying an English sentence.
In beginner sentence was in and emphasize it.

Speaker 7 (44:31):
Get me a jury and show me how you can
say injure line you know you're down on you.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
That's just the other you'll forgive me.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
That's just stupid in July.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
I love to know how you emphasize in and in
July impossible meanings.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
I think we only were thinking about what they didn't want.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
He isn't thinking. Yeah, it was Michael, I should I said,
if you d July.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
You didn't say it. He said it.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
You're a friend too much.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
Directing here on you.

Speaker 7 (44:59):
We know a a place in the American far West
where Charlie Briggs chops up the finest prairie said, decent tastes.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
This is a lot of ship. You know that you
want one more you.

Speaker 24 (45:12):
Miss which you can't emphasize. That's like he's wanting you
emphasize in before July. Come on, fellows, you're losing your head.
I wouldn't direct any living actor like this and shape
you when you do this, it is impossible.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
You did six last year, and that's one with a fist.
And I never read the right reading for this to one.
I'm giving it at the moment twenty times more for
you people, and any other commercial of it remain. It
was such test. Now, what is it you want in
your death of your ignorance? What is it you want?

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Whatever it is you want, I can't deliver it if
I just don't see it considered.

Speaker 13 (45:52):
It was.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Money as well.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Throughout the years, Orson Wells in his face and voice
to adds for Nashua, Copiers Perier, Vivitar Swanson, Frozen Peas
fin this frozen Fish, Cadillac, Gym Beam, Honeycomb, Cereal Marshmallow, Peeps,
and even Japanese whiskey.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Perfect gmng Nika Whiskey.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
But by far his most prolific ad campaign was for
Paul mass On wines. Wells's commercials for these wines were
wildly successful and ubiquitous, thanks in part to the catchphrase we.

Speaker 16 (46:33):
Will sell no wine before it's time. We will sell
no wine before it's time. We will sell no wine
before it's time. We will sell no wine before it's time.
We will sell no wine before it's time. Will sell
no wine before it's time.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
And if you're a citizen of the Internet, you've likely
come across this series ab outtakes for a Pall mass
On French champagne commercial.

Speaker 25 (47:06):
Just do anything, No sorry, one take two, Ah, the
French champagne that has always been celebrated for its excellence.
There is a California champagne by Poor Mason, inspired by

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that same French excellence. It's fermented in the bottle, and
like the best French champagne, it's vintage dated.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
So por mass On one two, take three action please Well.

Speaker 26 (47:45):
The French champagne has always been celebrated for its excellence.
There is a California champagne by poor Masson, inspired by
that same French excellence. It's fermented in the bottle and
like the best French champagne and s vintage dated.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
So the legend about this clip writes itself. The bibulous
and rotund Wells has obviously sampled so much wine in
the course of shooting the commercial that he got two
shit faced to perform, and so people printed the legend
as truth. But as always, the truth is a bit
more complicated than that. Mel magazine interviewed the commercial's assistant director,

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Peter Shillingford, and according to him, this is what actually happened.
Wells called us to say he would be late. We
were supposed to begin at ten at a mansion in
Los Angeles, and the crew and the extras and the
agency people were all waiting for him. Finally, at noon,
the limo arrived at the mansion and Orson beckoned me
into the back of the limo. I'm in trouble, Shillingford

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Wilson began. He was puffing on a cigar and looking
very untidy. His hat was on the floor, his tie
was loose, and his shirt was button up wrong. He
was piss drunk, he was sleepy, and he was mumbling.
Last night I was filming in Las Vegas. We had
camera problems, so the shoot went late to dawn. I've
not slept at all.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
He told me.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
The agency men tried approaching, but I waved them away.
Orson explained that he'd taken a sleeping pill when he
left Las Vegas to sleep in the limo, but it
had only just been kicking in and his speech was
beginning to slur. He finally asked me, what do you suggest.
I told him that the camera and the extras were
already in place, so let's give it a try. I

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knew he couldn't do it, but I told him that
I had to put him on camera for insurance reasons,
so that we could show that we couldn't do the job.
That way, we'd have insurance coverage for the day because
of the actor malfunctioning. He understood, so I helped him
out of the vehicle. He held on to my arm
and we walked in. The make up girl ran up,

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but he showed her away and we plunged him on
his piano stool and began. We did three takes and
what you see on camera makes it clear how they
went after. I came in with the clapper on the
first take and the director yelled action please. Orson had
no idea he was supposed to begin. The director said
action again, and Orson mumbled, he doesn't do anything, indicating

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the actor at the table with him. On the second take,
Orson began with an ah and then went on about
the French champagne as the actor was with him, try
not to crack up as his words slurred. Finally, on
the third take, Orson let out a sort of chuckle
at the beginning. He went on to say most of

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the dialog right, but he was so obviously pissed that
we couldn't use it. I then turned to the director
and one of the men from the agency, and we
all agreed there was no production here, so I sent
everyone to lunch and asked the owner of the mansion
if we could bed down Orson.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
For a couple of hours.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
She was thrilled and told me that the maid's room
was just over there. So I put Orson in the
maid's room and helped him out of his jacket in
his trousers and he took his shirt off. He was
standing there with just his little rubby underpant song and
he climbed into the day bed. Then I went and
handed his clothes to the wardrobe girl. The agency men

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were furious. They were talking about suing him, talking about
firing him. They hated him anyway, so they'd be happy
to be rid of him. But I thought if we
maybe gave him a couple of hours, we could salvage
the day. A couple of hours later, I knocked on
the door to the maid's room and Orson shouted, wear
my clothes. Shillingford, who had been robbed. He was just

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having a bit of fun, though he was a professional
and he was good to go now. I sent the
wardrobe girl in with the press clothes and a cup
of coffee, and she came out of the room stunned
after seeing this huge man and his graying underpants. Three
he'd been seated, and he delivered the lines perfectly. We
were done by five, getting everything we needed without overtime.

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So yes, Wells had been drinking, but it wasn't the
cheap pal mass on wine they had on set. And
I'd wager that most of his delicate condition can be
attributed to exhaustion and the effects of that sleeping pill
he took even though he was out of sorts and slumming.
It was more of a professional than the legend of

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the fat on camera drunk would suggest. If you'd like
to read the entire interview with Peter Shillingford, you can
find it online at melmagazine dot com, slash een, dash Us,
slash story, slash orson Dash, Wells Dash, Drunk, Dash Wine
Dash Commercial. If you'd like to learn more about Wells's

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later life and career and his love of trickery, you
couldn't do better than to watch for Fake and the
Netflix documentary They'll Love Me When I'm Dead, which deals
primarily with the making and posthumous completion of Well's metatextual
and semi autobiographical last film, The Other Side of the Wind,

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which is also available on Netflix. And now I think
you've indulged me enough, I'm sure you're quite ready for
some more spooky shit. And Tara and Jessica of the
podcast Three Spooked Girls have just the thing for you.
I'll return in two weeks. Until then, stay spooky mess

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a me ladies, take it away.

Speaker 23 (53:43):
Hey sposters, and welcome back. To another episode here on
Three Spooked Girls. My name is Tara, and as always,
I'm here with my cool friend Jessica.

Speaker 15 (53:54):
Hello.

Speaker 22 (53:55):
Hello, Oh my god. So excited. We are doing spooky stuff.
I am so I'm so excited.

Speaker 23 (54:01):
These are all having to do with real summer camps.
So these are real stories, I know. And I was like,
you know what, I always think of the slashers at
the summer camp, so I was like, this fits perfect.
The first story reads. I thought he was security. This
was early nineties at a school camp. I got up
during the night to go out to the camp toilet.

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It wasn't far away. I could see it from our tent.
There wasn't anybody around. On my way back, I spotted
a man I didn't recognize shining a torch inside of
the boys tent to make shadows up here.

Speaker 22 (54:34):
It's like a flashlight.

Speaker 23 (54:35):
When he saw me approach, he put his torch away
and walked away, but was sort of hovering around the campsite.
I thought he was campsite security and that I was
going to get into trouble for leaving my tent during
the night. So as I was an anxious kid, it
kept me up all night as I couldn't sleep, I
noticed for a good hour or so that the guy
was still walking around and shining his torch into the

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side of tents. I could hear him, and I could
see the light. In the morning, I was falling as
sleep at breakfast and my friends were talking the piss
about it. One of the teachers noticed and thought I
was getting six, so she came over to ask if
I was all right. I said I had been up
all night because of the camp security guard shining his
torch into tents. She looked horrified and said, what camp
security done? Undone right, and went off to tell one

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of the male teachers. Turns out that the campsite didn't
have any security and the cops were called. It ended
up being some guy who was known in the area
for being a sex offender, and he had recently been
released from prison and he was living near the woods
in a tent.

Speaker 15 (55:33):
That's not good. No, it's not good at all.

Speaker 22 (55:35):
That sounds like a refund. Everybody.

Speaker 15 (55:37):
We're really sorry, but like we didn't realize there was
a pedophile in the woods? Are bad?

Speaker 16 (55:43):
Right?

Speaker 23 (55:43):
Our next one is the real reason they took us
into the woods. I was about twelve, and when I
was at sleep away camp, the counselors took us on
a hike into the woods for a night. When it
came time to go to bed, of course, none of
us were actually falling asleep, and we overheard the counselors
talking about the police looking for someone. We learned later
one of the kids was in the middle of a
serious custody battle and that the dad was planning on

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taking the kid, and that the reason we were in
the woods was so that he wouldn't find us at
the cabin. No idea if it was actually dangerous, But
looking back, it's definitely unsettling.

Speaker 15 (56:14):
That is crazy.

Speaker 23 (56:15):
That could have put all them in like a really
dangerous situation depending you know what I mean very much.

Speaker 15 (56:20):
So this sounds weird. You might be too young for this.
But on the Disney Channel, like in the late nineties,
there was this show called Bug Juice. Yes, did you
watch it? Like this is giving me Like I'm like,
oh my god, mm hmm. I wanted to be on it.
When you said Sleepway Camp, I was like, because I
went to like church camp, which was like five days,
I guess sleepway camp. But I always wanted to go
for like you're gone for eleven weeks.

Speaker 22 (56:42):
Yeah, like parent trap.

Speaker 23 (56:43):
I always wanted to be like peace out homies.

Speaker 15 (56:46):
Right, and I wanted to find love on that show
just like all that. Like there was this one girl
in there and she had like fourteen boyfriends over the summer.

Speaker 22 (56:53):
Yes, I wonder how all those people are doing.

Speaker 15 (56:55):
Now, that is what we need. Stop showing me the
little rascals like I've already seen someone tracked down all
of the bug juice people.

Speaker 22 (57:03):
Please and report back to us.

Speaker 15 (57:05):
Thank you, get on it, please and thank you. That's
your mission, please please.

Speaker 23 (57:09):
Okay, Spiders and sadistic counselors went on a camping trip.
I was one of the first ones out of the
bus and had to use the public bathroom. I noticed
a few daddy long legs on the outside wall of
the bathroom and think nothing of it. I opened the
door and immediately am greeted by thousands, if not millions,
of daddy long legs that were covering the bathroom from

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top to bottom. The bathroom was as big as a well,
like three stalls and three yeurnals. That and coupled with
the fact that our camp counselors were sadistic and told
us preteens a bunch of scary stories, then jumped out
of the woods in the middle of the night, screaming
with bloody Jason masks.

Speaker 22 (57:45):
I stayed in my tent most of the time after that.

Speaker 9 (57:48):
Ah.

Speaker 15 (57:49):
I mean, when you're a cam council, there's very few
things that bring you joy like kind of terrorizing your campers.

Speaker 22 (57:55):
That's a lot, though, That is a lot. Okay. The
next one is called ranger in a gorilla suit.

Speaker 13 (58:02):
What I know.

Speaker 23 (58:03):
My youth group stayed at a campsite for a weekend trip.
We were all in the cabin playing card games when
someone with a gorilla suit ran by the cabin and
started banging on the door. It really freaked everyone out
because it was no one in our group. They came
back a couple times until one of the adults confronted
the person and they ran away.

Speaker 22 (58:20):
They never found out who the person was. Wow, I'm
proud of them for keeping that a secret.

Speaker 23 (58:25):
I feel like a lot of teens would have been like, bitch,
guess what I just did is so funny.

Speaker 15 (58:29):
It's probably like a local. It's probably like a local
who like really hates the kids who come to camp
and like I'm gonna fuck with them for fun. I
live near a camp, I'd be like, there's a new
batch of campers. Let's get our gorillas out. Come on,
think about it. It'd be a little fun.

Speaker 23 (58:43):
Oh my god, that is funny. And get some of
the counselors and like, oh my god, it could be
a whole thing.

Speaker 22 (58:48):
Okay.

Speaker 23 (58:49):
Our next one rumors of an ax man. When I
was young, like eleven or twelve, and I was at
girl Scout camp one night after lights out, we were
told by our counselors to stay in the cabins latched doors.

Speaker 22 (59:00):
Oh is serious, and get under the beds and turn
off all the lights.

Speaker 23 (59:04):
Some old guy had gotten drunk and trespassed. He had
been walking around the property, but luckily didn't find any
of the campgrounds. Rumors were he had an axe, but
I don't know if that's true. A drunk man with
an axe.

Speaker 15 (59:16):
Yeah, no, thanks, Just oh my god, the camp seems
so weird.

Speaker 22 (59:21):
These are all different ones, These aren't all the same one.

Speaker 15 (59:23):
No, no, I know that, but it's just like it's
like such a weird thing where it's like, you know,
this kind of shit happens at every single camp, Like
every single campground, every single like kind of place has these.

Speaker 22 (59:33):
Like something happened stories.

Speaker 15 (59:35):
I have a ton of camp stories.

Speaker 22 (59:37):
Oh my god, that might have to be a Patreon episode.

Speaker 11 (59:40):
Love it.

Speaker 15 (59:40):
It'll be fun, all right.

Speaker 23 (59:42):
So our next one is called archery. This person wrote
went to a boy scout camp in the mid late nineties.
They had an archery range and we were all learning
how to shoot. They were big on safety, but it
was the nineties. So anyways, everyone shoots and we are
downrange getting our arrows when we hear some yell out
in the covered shooting area. I look up and see

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this kid holding an arrow at full draw and let's go.
Hits the kid standing five feet from me in the arm.

Speaker 22 (01:00:09):
It's chaos.

Speaker 23 (01:00:10):
Everyone's running around and screaming. The kid with the arrow
sticking out of him is just staring there in shock.
Next year there was no more archery training.

Speaker 15 (01:00:18):
This is getting very peat from Ghosts Vine where he
got shot in the neck and died and had to
stand the property.

Speaker 22 (01:00:24):
That would suck so bad.

Speaker 15 (01:00:26):
But also can you imagine being that kid going back
to school, Like the first day at school, be like
how is your summer, Billy? He's like, well, some kid
shot me in the arm with an arrow.

Speaker 22 (01:00:34):
Oh my god, right, Just the.

Speaker 15 (01:00:35):
Amount of people who would be like, I don't believe.

Speaker 22 (01:00:37):
You, right, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 12 (01:00:39):
Okay.

Speaker 23 (01:00:40):
Our next one is Deep Wilderness, so we're gonna go
to Canada for this one. We were on this really
long canoe trip in northern Ontario. Like Deep Wilderness. We
were on this gorgeous clear lake when we found a
secluded beach. It was really beautiful, so we decided to
stay there for the night. The whole day and even
sitting around the fire that night felt weird, but I
couldn't really place my finger on it. I woke up

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in the middle of the night to the sound of
soft country music. None of us had a stereo, so
I stuck my head out of the tent to.

Speaker 22 (01:01:08):
See what the fuck was up.

Speaker 23 (01:01:09):
There was a bald guy going through our campsite, picking
up stuff. As he went along, we made eye contact
and he put his fingers to his lips and made
a shush sound, so I hit in my sleeping bag.
I can't remember what he took, but it wasn't much.
It turns out that there is a pretty significant it
says hermit, but I'm assuming that means like maybe homeless
population in northern Ontario.

Speaker 15 (01:01:30):
Hermit would be like, I live in my own cabin
in the woods, and I don't talk to people. Interesting,
That's how I always understood like the lore of like
woodsy people. There was always like hermit, so like mm
and it always turned out to be the kind hearted
gentleman who just didn't like being around big noises could be.
That's not like every nineties movie with a guy who

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had in a cabin that was misunderstood. He always lost
his wife named Sarah who had died right, Oh.

Speaker 22 (01:01:57):
My god, yes, always, always, always, always Sarah.

Speaker 15 (01:02:00):
Who had died several years before, and he just couldn't
stay in their house any longer. And he loved the woods,
and so he's coming out here because it's where he
felt closest to her.

Speaker 23 (01:02:09):
And then sometimes it's even worse where they're like she
died in childbirth and then the baby died too or
some shit.

Speaker 15 (01:02:14):
Oh yeah, oh my god, so tragic, awful. The Western.
Now I'm just getting Western vibes, all right.

Speaker 23 (01:02:21):
So the next one is called Ghostly's Suicide. I was
in a summer camp on an island when I was thirteen,
and we were hanging out at the beach during dawn.
All of a sudden, a woman came out of nowhere
walked with big steps towards the water. She had been
wearing a white cape, which she threw dramatically away underneath it.
She was completely naked when she reached the water. She
walked into it despite it not being very warm, until

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she started to swim, always straight ahead, away from the island,
until we lost track of her. We stayed for more
than one and a half hours, but she never came.

Speaker 22 (01:02:51):
Back, and it was dark and she was naked and
her cape was still on the beach.

Speaker 23 (01:02:55):
Back then, we joked that she was a mermaid, but
later it occurred to me that we may have witnessed suicide.

Speaker 11 (01:03:00):
Oh shit, that's scary.

Speaker 15 (01:03:02):
I'm so glad for really, like, at least for a
period of time that they were like their brains protected themselves.

Speaker 11 (01:03:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:03:09):
I like the mermaid theory too.

Speaker 15 (01:03:10):
Yeah, some mermaid is totally a mermaid.

Speaker 22 (01:03:12):
Okay, This next one's called the phantom pooper.

Speaker 15 (01:03:16):
I'm so excited. Go ahead.

Speaker 23 (01:03:17):
Church camp early two thousands, someone was pooping in suitcases.
Everyone was worried they would be targeted, but no one
knew who it was, a counselor, and other members were hit.
They even got They even got away with pooping in
a large gathering area with many people around.

Speaker 22 (01:03:33):
I don't think they ever got caught.

Speaker 15 (01:03:35):
Why does this sound like something that happened at one
of my church camps?

Speaker 23 (01:03:39):
Literally, Oh my gosh, that's so funny. So this is
just called church camp. Church camp made us burn her
panties that were shameful to God. Yet kids were doing
all kinds of sexual stuff in the woods.

Speaker 22 (01:03:51):
Checks out.

Speaker 15 (01:03:51):
Yeah, Now, church camp is the place where you go
to learn things. Yeah, it's not about God. I'll tell
you that.

Speaker 23 (01:03:57):
No, no, No.

Speaker 22 (01:03:58):
Creepers is one.

Speaker 23 (01:04:00):
When I was fourteen turning fifteen, I went to a
confirmation camp. This place was located in the middle of
literally nothing, just endless forests around us. There were a
total of maybe thirty of us teenagers as me and
the camp leaders. The cottage was two floors high, and
the second floor was the girl's bedrooms. We were settled
down to sleep and it was probably around midnight when
suddenly there was a really loud banging on the only

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window the room had. Since it was already dark outside
at this time, you really couldn't see what it was,
or rather who it was, until the person turned the
flashlight on. The light was going through the room and
we were able to see two grown men, probably around
thirty years old, lurking on us and smiling. Thanks to
the one who built this place, the window could not
be opened and wouldn't fit a person through it. The leaders,

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of course, heard the screams and voices and called the police,
but the men had enough time to escape before authorities
made it there. In the morning, while discussing the event
of the past night, it turned out that one of
the girls in the camp was actually having some kind
of relationship with one of these men, yes illegal man,
oh no, and.

Speaker 22 (01:05:01):
Had invited them.

Speaker 23 (01:05:03):
Police did go and have a chat with these men,
but they never got anything of it because they said
they didn't do anything legal enough.

Speaker 22 (01:05:10):
Basically, they were like they didn't do any crime by
being there.

Speaker 23 (01:05:12):
It's still very creepy to wake up to grown random
men looking at young girls while they're sleeping on the
second floor. There was a fire escape under the window.
I'm sorry, isn't there, Like isn't voyeurism? Can't you do
something about that? Or like being a peep in tom Creep.
Probably not, huh.

Speaker 15 (01:05:27):
It depends on where they are and like how severe
it is, and like if it's a real rural area,
they might not like they might just like give them
a ticket.

Speaker 22 (01:05:34):
Like it might not be something crazy unfortunately. Yeah, all right.
Our next one is called bears. As a thirteen year old.

Speaker 23 (01:05:42):
Kid, I went out into the woods at like one
am with a head lamp to pee just immediately behind
my cabin because I didn't want to walk all the
way to the washhouse. While I'm peeing, I look forward
and see a large bear just staring at me. Wouldn't
piss myself if it wasn't for the fact I was
already peeing. Either way, I finished my business while he
stared at me and walked backwards back to the cabin.

(01:06:03):
He turned around and walked away. But there was no
chance in hell I would turn my back on a
bear and run the other way. Yeah, smart kid, Smart kid,
that'd be like the worst thing to do.

Speaker 15 (01:06:12):
Also, the bear was mad because you stopped him from paying. True,
he was like, I came out to go to the
bathroom and you were in my space. The amount of
times of being at summer camp and they're like, guys,
you can't go out at night because there's a bear.
And I'm like, then, why the fuck are there kids here?
A kid is gonna get eaten by a pear?

Speaker 22 (01:06:28):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 23 (01:06:29):
Oh okay, So this next one is called ghosts. During
the summers, I would spend a month or so visiting
family in Michigan. Some of my cousins my age would
go to camp in the up called Hiawatha. The cabins
we got assigned for the week had about six campers
and two counselors, and we were spaced far apart from
each other, deep in the woods, away from the common area.

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There were stories about a father and a son who
were hunting near the campgrounds during the off season. So
the story went that the father thought he saw a
big buck and took a shot at it, only to
get to the deer and find out that he had
shot his son in the neck. Being so deep in
the woods and such a fatal shot, he shot his
son in the head to stop the pain. The game
and wildlife agents that had found them said the father

(01:07:10):
suffered an apparent gunshot wound through the roof of his
mouth of his head in what looked like a murder suicide.
The counselors always felt it necessary to tell the story
to younger or new campers.

Speaker 22 (01:07:20):
Now I don't know of.

Speaker 23 (01:07:21):
Hearing the story, and the atmosphere of the cabins, being
so far from the common areas and in the deep woods,
caused me to see things. But a friend I was
walking from the cabin to the mess hall with earlier
one morning, before the breakfast bell, we saw what looked
like a father and a son, dressed like they were hunting,
carrying shotguns and walking towards our cabin. Ours was almost
second from being the farthest from anything. We took off

(01:07:43):
so fast, sprinting through the trees. Once we hit the
open field between the cabins and the mess hall, we
saw another group of guys running out behind us. We
were shocked to see anyone else before the bell rang
and running no less. We asked what they were running to.
They looked back from the direction they came and turned
back to us and said, we saw hunter pointing a
shotgun at us.

Speaker 22 (01:08:02):
We dang, damn.

Speaker 23 (01:08:03):
This next one's called caves in the Lake. Every year
I went to the same camp, and every year they
tell us three things. Watch out for banana spiders, don't
have sex, and don't attempt to dive down the lake.
The lake in question has many caves at the bottom
of it and is probably about fifty to one hundred
feet down. They used to teach scuba diving lessons, but
haven't since a counselor drowned. Nobody has scuba dived in

(01:08:25):
the lake or attempted to reach the bottom for fifteen years.
The stories are passed on from counselor to counselor, and
all is relatively the same. A group of kids didn't
see their counselor, searched for him, came back up when
oxygen got low, and alerted another counselor. Counselors went in
to the water to look for him, and people checked
every inch of this camp in the middle of the woods.
People were praying that he wasn't out in the water

(01:08:47):
and somehow got out. Three hours later, his body was
found and taken from the water. He was twenty two
years old and gone just like that. Damn underwater cave.
Things freaked me out, So I'm good.

Speaker 15 (01:08:57):
I don't like caves in general.

Speaker 23 (01:08:59):
We got two more shore ones and that will be
the end of this installment. Okay, this one is called
attempted Murder. I went to a girl Scouts camp when
I was around eight years old, so this was around
two thousand and one. All of the counselors were young
twenty year olds. There was a girl in my group.

Speaker 22 (01:09:15):
Who did something to piss off the counselors.

Speaker 23 (01:09:16):
I don't remember what it was, but I know it
was minor in the middle of summer and super hot,
and she was moderately overweight. They made her sit in
the sun and wouldn't allow her any water as punishment.
They were terrible people and made me afraid of them
as a kid. Ummm, that's a legal because she kind
of died, like depending on how hot it was, right,
Oh my god, awful. This last one just like it's

(01:09:39):
so sure, but the title just made me laugh. It's
called Peacock's Screams. So as person said, I went to
a camp that was half a mile from a peacock farm,
and I gotta say, peacocks screaming echoing through the middle
of the night are fucking terrifying. When you're ten and
nobody told you there was a peacock farm nearby, I
could see that.

Speaker 15 (01:09:58):
Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 22 (01:10:00):
I thought it'd be terrifying at least.

Speaker 15 (01:10:01):
The camp I went to like it was next to
a cattle ranch, which, by the way, the cattle ranch
was like next to my dad's. It was my dad's
friends cattle ranch. But the cows would like because cows
do like scream, like they move, scream in the middle
of night like city kids would be like, the fuck
is that you'd like? It's a cow, Calm down and
eat your fun dip.

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That is gonna go ahead and wrap us up for
this dark summer camp experiences.

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I've just got a handicapped cat walking all over my desk.
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Can you meow for us?

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This is my feral wild cat.

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He looks so fairer and wild.

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Do you think he was feral because he's pretty chill now,
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Yeah, it's look a lot of doing. And I am
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You are the cat whisper.

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I'm so happy that little Albert's got a little friend.
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It's really sad because he used to have Pandora and
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He wasn't a bad way, wasn't he?

Speaker 12 (01:16:30):
He was not a bad way. And he was completely
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most fierce cat I've ever known, and now he's a
teddy bear with a limp and he wants to get
into podcasting.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:16:46):
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Speaker 12 (01:16:49):
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Make sure of recording this.

Speaker 12 (01:17:00):
What suckling every day?

Speaker 11 (01:17:07):
If you had to suckle of any animal, suckle.

Speaker 12 (01:17:15):
Cow death, you have to do it cow.

Speaker 11 (01:17:20):
What would it be?

Speaker 20 (01:17:21):
A cow?

Speaker 11 (01:17:23):
That's quite a big titty in your mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Well, it's milk in it. Yeah, I know that all
of it will be milk. But I've heard that like
rabbit's milk is thick like like like.

Speaker 12 (01:17:42):
Thick like pata you hit you heard it here first,
rabbit's milk is thick.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Like Yeah, I swear it is because when my rabbit
had baby. Is it true?

Speaker 20 (01:18:03):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:18:03):
The T shirt idea, the T shirt idea, So.

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
Rabbit, I'd buy some shorts and put my boots as
thick as rabbit's milk. Something like that, something to that.
Even though it's an complete lie, I have no ask.

Speaker 12 (01:18:27):
So, okay, Becky's suckling on a cow? What you suckling
on Tash?

Speaker 16 (01:18:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:18:33):
It was my question, and I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
I think we had one in the ignition ready to go.
What do I I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:18:43):
I guess it will I think it would have to
be a cow. You're right, maybe one of those.

Speaker 12 (01:18:49):
Like no, we could do this.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
Four of them as well. We could all do it
at the same time.

Speaker 12 (01:18:53):
I ain't suckling. I'm not putting in my mouth.

Speaker 11 (01:18:59):
Just be one of those nice ones that like cuddling.

Speaker 19 (01:19:02):
You know, well the other that's cuddling us while we're
suckling on its other teeth.

Speaker 12 (01:19:13):
Let's move on. So for asking that question, I don't
know what I'd suckle on, but it sure wouldn't be
a cow.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
Gross, But I wouldn't do it willingly. She made me reply,
and I gave an answer.

Speaker 12 (01:19:28):
Maybe a cat was going to be a cat. It'd
be like tiny little teeth.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
What about a dolphin, Emma, as soon as you love
them so much.

Speaker 12 (01:19:39):
Loved I've got nothing personally against dolphins, but I'm not
like a massive fan.

Speaker 11 (01:19:46):
I don't bet you were at one point, though.

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
I bet you. I bet you had that dolphin little
hang on box?

Speaker 7 (01:19:52):
Have you?

Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
Everyone has one? I had one of those?

Speaker 12 (01:19:55):
Have you met me? Do you think I was that
to have a dolphin or a little jewelry.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
Well, I didn't get I got bought it by someone.
I didn't buy it myself.

Speaker 11 (01:20:08):
My daughter bought one other car boot last year and
I love it.

Speaker 12 (01:20:11):
I did not have any Delphine dolphin stuff Delphine, Delphine
the dolphin.

Speaker 13 (01:20:18):
No.

Speaker 12 (01:20:19):
Yeah, anyway, I was just going to say the whole
group of words that go into breastfeeding, like suckling teat,
it's none of it is nice. Nothing is nice.

Speaker 11 (01:20:35):
Ariela, I like, is such a weird word.

Speaker 12 (01:20:42):
I like that word that doesn't gross me out.

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
It sounds a little bit like like a pasta dish
which likes mariola or a cheese it.

Speaker 12 (01:20:51):
Does on that Nipple, on the other hand, nipple is gross.

Speaker 11 (01:20:56):
Snipple.

Speaker 5 (01:21:01):
I only like it if I say it like that.

Speaker 12 (01:21:06):
Do you you know when it's cold and you go,
it's a bit nippy? Do we say nippy? Because I think,
so that's weird? What about what isn't? Isn't it because
Jack Frost is nipping at your nose like from the song?

Speaker 11 (01:21:22):
Potentially maybe it's both.

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
Maybe maybe Jack Frost wasn't nipping at your nose.

Speaker 12 (01:21:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:21:32):
Listen. We've established we all left English education at quite
a crucial point, so we are not the people to
debunk this.

Speaker 12 (01:21:42):
Can somebody find the origin of this phrase? It's a
bit nippy, Please and let us know writing it's time.

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
Shall we just google it now?

Speaker 11 (01:21:59):
Audience participation, Yeah, exactly?

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
What's that?

Speaker 12 (01:22:03):
What's our email address?

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
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Speaker 12 (01:22:04):
C s K on the score. No, it's not that
spine chillers dot nice.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
It's chillers dot killers dot pod at gmail.

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Nothing like it. Oh yeah, emailers chillers dot killers at
gmail dot com. No chillers nip dot pod. Oh, just
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We will sell no wine before its time.

Speaker 8 (01:23:08):
I like to cast a party the way I cast
to play with very special people in the champagne be
equally special. Por Masan, a premium California champagne of impeccable taste.
Pormisan wines taste so good because they're made with such care.

Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
Or Pau Mason.

Speaker 8 (01:23:25):
Himself said it early a century ago, we will.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
Sell no wine before its time. I'm here at Pauemassan
Chateau in California.

Speaker 8 (01:23:41):
Almost every night here there's a wine tasting party, and
one of the favorites is all my son, Chabli.

Speaker 6 (01:23:48):
It's lights and crisp. It's delicious.

Speaker 8 (01:23:50):
The wine you drink the most should be the best,
and they take special care with it here because they
know Chabli is America's most popular wine.

Speaker 6 (01:23:59):
Pumassan Chevli. I recommend it.

Speaker 16 (01:24:03):
Paul Masson will sell no wine before it's time. Emerald
dry from Paul Mason. It's silky smooth, it's fresh and bright.
It's emerald cool. It's Chrispas it's sophisticated. It's Emerald dry.

(01:24:30):
From Paul Mason. We will sell no wine.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
Before it's time.

Speaker 26 (01:24:39):
But the taste of French champagne has always been celebrated
for its excellence. There's a California champagne by Paul Masson,
inspired by that same French accidence. It's fermented in the bottle.
I'd like the best French champagne. It's vintage dated. Paul
Maison's super taste shouldn't be too surprising. This champagne doesn't
come from France, but it was created by a man

(01:25:01):
who did, par Masson. Pormassan must sell no wine.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
For its time.

Speaker 16 (01:25:09):
Deep a little the plains of southern France, in a
mysterious process begun millions of years ago. Nature herself adds
life to the icy waters of a single spring period.

Speaker 6 (01:25:22):
Its natural sparkle is.

Speaker 16 (01:25:23):
More delicate than any made by man, and therefore more quenching,
more refreshing, and the mixer bar excellence, naturally sparkling from
the center of the earth. Perier a great deal of
time and care going to the production of a fine play,

(01:25:45):
just as they go into the making of a fine wine.

Speaker 8 (01:25:48):
Palmisan's Riine Castle. The taste is smooth, flavorful, delicious. Por
Massan wines taste so good because they're made with such care.
What Farmasan said nearly a century. Trego is still true today.
We will sell no wine before it's time.

Speaker 16 (01:26:06):
Ah mmm,

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