June 27, 2025 • 31 mins
Night 2 of the NBA DRAFT is over (please make it 1 night again)
Who won the draft? Who fumbled the draft?
Which players won
Masai parts ways with Raptors
Which teams are feeling the best coming out of the draft
Knicks select at 50 Mohamed Diawara F France
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Who won the draft? Who fumbled the draft?
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Which teams are feeling the best coming out of the draft
Knicks select at 50 Mohamed Diawara F France
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Welcome back to another episode of the Off the Ball
Podcast with me Or Hopes, Chris Lebron and we got
a lot to discuss. Night two of the NBA Draft
is over. We're gonna talk about who are the biggest winners,
who are the biggest losers, Which players benefited the most
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from the you know, the impact of nil and so
many top notch players going back to school, some losers
of the process. Which teams come out of the draft
feeling really good, which teams may be not feeling so hot.
Also Massaiyu Jerry being parting ways with the Toronto Raptors
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or he is no longer a part of basketball ops
for the Toronto Raptors. We'll discuss that the Knicks selection
at fifty and then trading back down one spot at
fifty one and select them Dilara. We'll discuss stat but
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The NBA Draft Night two is over. Please, I'm silver NBA.
Let's make it one night again. Let's make it one
night again. We can get all this done in three hours,
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three three hours, you can get this all done. Let's
do it. But let let's do that. I I also
I don't like how they picked. I didn't like how
they picked. Who gets to uh get a actual like
introduction and who doesn't? You know, you know I don't
think everyway. Yeah, we harp, you know they harp so
(02:54):
much on Jokic got drafted during a a Taco bell
commercial and then some guys were drafted during commercials now,
let let kids have their moment. You know, there's only
sixty picks in the NFL draft, or there's two hundred
and whatever amount of picks there's a limited amount of
there's only fifty nine picks this year. Let these Let
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everyone have a moment, regardless of they're at the bar,
they were at the Barker Center or not. Let kids
have their moment and to see themselves get their name called.
Don't have to get their name called during a commercial break.
You know. I think sometimes ESPN wants to catch that
moment so they can have that be the you know,
oh yeah, look at this guy. You know he was
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drafted during a Geico commercial. Let's just have it, but
have a moment. Nobody needs to go through that. But regardless,
Night two is over, and it started off initially with
the Wolves, we're going to be on the clock, but
they wound up trading the pick to the Phoenix Suns
and a guy who I was really surprised dropped into
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the second round. I had Rashier Fleming leave top. Let's
see exactly where I had mister Rashier Fleming. I think
I had in top twenty. Yeah, he was top twenty
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for me. He was fifteen. I believe he was fifteen
on my board. And for the Sons to co op
and trade for him, that said, that was a good pick.
That was a good pick up for them. So they
started off and then you know, you obviously the guys
we saw kind of who we thought were gonna be
the first round picks. We saw them kind of going
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no appended was a guy who many thought was a
first round pick. You know, he's going to Orlando. Boston
had to pick the want a training and throw line Orlando.
I liked what Orlando did in just draft. I really
liked their draft. And then Sion James, a guy who
I think I had way to have Sion on my board.
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He was I think top forty five and he goes
thirty three. Really really happy for obviously being a Duke
fan seeing Cion, but just his his his journey, you know,
going to Tulane and I don't even think he was
on anyone's radar, you know, you know before you know
this this year at Duke. But then took over the
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ball handling duties when they were having some some real
difficulties trying to you know, trying to find that lead guard.
And he took over and really played a major role
on why Duke had success. And he was a menace
on defense, improved the shooting, so a good a good.
Uh a good. I don't even know what's going on there. Well,
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just very crazy, but yeah, a improved shooter, a lockdown
from one of the better wing you know, perimeter defenders
on ball defenders in this draft. He's a bull. Give
me a lot of Eleu Dort vibes like that in
that mold, like that type of player, like the shot
I think will be better. He can he can handle
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the rock a little bit, so I like that pick.
And and for Charlotte just getting more serious players, just
getting more serious basketball player. So I was good. Ryan Kulkbrenner.
I thought he was going to go in the first round.
He wound up. I think he's going to uh uh,
he's going to Charlotte too, right, I think he's going
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to Charlotte too. So, like I said, Charlotte getting more
getting more serious basketball players. So you know that they're
they're that's good, that's good for them. Johnny Broom And
then I had a due theory. I think where was
the due on my board? I really love a due thero.
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I had him fourteenth. I believe he goes. I know
there were some things his knee, some issues with his knee,
and I know some people were worried about his shot,
but he's a bull and the Lakers gonna get him.
So the Lakers get some winged help, which they they
kind of did need, along with some big help some
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bigs that they needed. So I like to do theopic
and Chas Lanier, one of the better shooters in the class,
goes Cam Jones. People. Some people thought he might go
on drafted because of the combine stuff and not having
you're not being an explosive guy, not having the intangibles,
not the intangibles, the measurables you know that you want.
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But did a good job this year taking over the
league guard spot when Colic you know what was obviously
drafted last year, Elijah Martin, he doesn't go in. I
had him top thirty. I love he's one of that
was one of my guys, like my Fay fives, Elijah Martin. Uh.
I had him thirtieth on my board, higher than most
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people had him, if not the highest, and he goes here.
He's going to the Toronto Raptors. So happy for Elijah
mar and love his journey. Another bulldog. I think he's
like a bigger version, a more a stronger version of
Duce McBride, Uh, to me, the best perimeter defender in
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this in this draft. And this is where you know,
as a Knicks fan, a lot of my guys go.
You know, I like, I love obviously a du theory.
I loved uh. You know, I knew Fleming was gonna go.
I knew Kalk Brennan was gonna go. But I'm like,
maybe a do the drops the need thing doesn't happen.
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It doesn't happen, you know. So I was like, Okay.
Then all my guys started going. All my guys started going,
and I'm just like, all right, this this sucks, This sucks,
this sucks. And then you get an Elijah mar Mikehpeevi.
I was like, ah, man, you know a guy who
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I who I really liked, you know, a physical wing
to guard, you know. And then Kobe Braya goes and
I'm like, oh that. And then Maxine Brunad goes, who
I had eleventh on my board. He goes and I'm like,
what's going on here? No, We're just gonna miss. And
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then JIMMYR. Watkins goes. You know, so like one, two, three,
four or five straight guys who are like, are really
I was higher on than most people. Go seven eight
got eight straight players who I was really high on
them than consensus. Go. So I'm like, oh, we're not
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going to get our guy, and the Knicks aren't going
to trade up, you know, as much as I had
wanted to. And I said, you know, if if Kobe
Bray is there in the forties, trade up, and he
was there at forty one and they didn't move up,
you know that that was a little there's a that
was a little little little disappointed to that that they
didn't move up up for that. But then I followed
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by Brooks Barnizer from from from Northwestern goes and Rocos
the Karski was another guy where I was like, it
might be worthy to take a shot on him an
upside pick, because now I'm thinking, all right, let's just
take an upside guy. And Roco is a seven foot four,
eighteen year old, Like, okay, that's gonna be an upside pick.
He goes to Minnesota. Then I'm like, all right, Mary Williams,
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I've talked about he's on the board, or even a
bubble Jum Markovich, the Serbian kid, maybe him. Those are two,
especially Bogolup, like I need. I might be butchering his
first name. But Markovic is an upside pick too. They go,
Mari goes and he's going to Boston, and I was like, Oh,
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he's going to Boston. That's that's uh, you know, that's
a good pick for them. Bubbleo's going to I believe
he's going to the Bucks. Then Jamal Davone's small goals,
and then like, all right, maybe Procter or you know,
I was thinking of Kobe Sanders too, and then you know,
Procter goals. Then I'm like, all right, Kobe Sanders is there.
He's someone that I was intrigued about. Okay, maybe you know,
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you know, six foot seven, you know, can you know
it's just a good player, strong, you know, maybe maybe
and we take him and then we trade the pick.
We trade the pick, and I'm not sure. I gotta
I gotta see. Maybe I could find out from Begs
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what the trade exactly was that, what else did we
get in the return? Trying to see that was at
work yesterday, so I didn't get to watch it all,
you know, or live, but I'm trying to see maybe
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it was just a straight all right, So the Knicks
just got the draft rights to uh Luka Metrovic, who
was taken like a decade ago, right, so that sucks.
I would have liked Kobe Sanders, but you know, they
and then they filed with the fifty first pick and
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the Knicks wound up taking Mohammed Aara, you know, the
French kid. And if you you know, in the in
the KFTV chat, we were like, you know, no, you know, Chris,
don't jinks with the French guys, and sorry, guys, we
will end up getting another Frenchman, another Frenchman with upside,
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and the Knicks have a have a quite a fascination
with the French, but they wound up taking the French forward,
Mohammed di Auara. He is an intriguing prospect for sure.
He has all the side you want, six foot eight,
two hundred plus pounds, strong, built like an Ox, you know,
has that you know, you know, not gonna get wild
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with the stats. Like I said, this is a this
is from what I heard. He's he's coming to the
States and play like I don't know if it's technically
a draft in stats, but six foot eight, six foot
nine range, seven foot four wingspan, and you know that's
always going to get you drafted. If you have the
six foot eight, seven foot plus wingspan build, I don't
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care what your stats are, you have a high high
chance of getting drafted. You have a plus five or
more wingspan, you know you are going to get drafted.
I think it's a nine foot plus you know, standing reach.
It's impressive, like his physical tools are impressive, but just
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some stuff here. You know, he played in the French
Metallic batyle of Elite League. You know, average six points
three rebounds started for the French, the French under twenty
team that won the year championships last year. An impressive
physical you know, talent, things need to be worked on. Offensively,
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the offenses is not is not there. It's not there
right now, So do not expect to see to see
any much offensive, you know, and in transition, yeah, you
may be able to see some stuff, you know. I
think he's he'll he'll be able to do some stuff
on that on that end, but you're not going to
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get much else. The shooting isn't there not a good
free throw shooter. There's there's He's just simply really raw
and I don't know if he'll ever be able to
be the offensive player that some may have wanted, you
know with that pick, but obviously you're limited on what
you can get. Like a lot of the players that
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I really wanted were gone. Like I said, eight, there
was eight or nine guys that went, you know consecutively
that went that I would have liked, you know. So
I'm just going to try to pull up some stats
from it, so like we're trying to give you a
better analysis of like I said, all the measurables and
(15:27):
chat thirty two from three fifty percent from the free
throw line. There's a very mitchieus numbers. Like I said,
you're not going to get much. They're not going to
get much from him, you know, offensively. You know, he
is just going to be a defensive type of guy.
You know, plays the lanes really well. Like I said, strong,
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has the length arm length. So those those are just
some things you know as a good as a good motor.
So though, those are just some things to look forward to.
Mohammad d r r. You know, simple simple upside pick.
You know, I didn't have him on my board. He
wasn't a top fifty nine to sixty player for me.
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You know, I might have had if I would have
put him overall on the board, maybe it would have
been in the seventies eighty range, because you know he
does have upside, and you know he is six eight
six' nine with a seven foot four, wingspan and those.
Things you know teams are going to absolutely love and
you know you can always you, know everyone thinks they.
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Can they can fix those type of guys and mold
them into some type of. Player but we'll. SEE i don't,
know you, know how he's going to fit in into
the rotation or even if he even sees the rotation this.
YEAR i DON'T i wouldn't think, so but we'll, see,
well you, know we'll see how he works in summer.
League so that's that's where The knicks picked with the
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fifty first. Pick they had originally Drafted Kobe, sanders but
then traded it to The clippers for a draft rights
for my player from, before from way, before and the
rights to Draft Muhammad. Diarra so not a lot of
drama with The knicks in the. Draft and then followed
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that With john To Alex, towhey WHICH i would have
been intrigued. About two In New. York John, tadja you
know the kid From. Wisconsin you, know can score older,
prospect but he can score Than Taylan, peter you know
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From liberty Lake, Land, olbridge The australian. Kid Will Richard
florida gets three guys drafted in this. DRAFT i had
a prediction of two in the. First elijah you, know
fell into the, thirties so almost. Almost Mac chalga FROM
vcu he's going to The Boston. Celtics Chilo, niang the
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guard From, senegal he's going to the Cab and then
to follow, Up Jami mayshak From tennessee ends the. Draft so,
that like, said fifty nine, picks wish they would do.
Sixty somebody's deserved to get you, know someone got screwed
(18:24):
out of not getting their name. Heard and there were
some interesting players that did not get. Drafted you, know
some guys that are were on my top on my.
Board you, know guys Like Eric, Dixon Lad, golden they
were on my. Board you, know Dnk PATE R. J,
Lewis Hunter, Sallas Ryan, Nemhard Tamar. Bates you, know there's
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some you, Know Bryce, williams some interesting. NAMES i Think
Eric dixon is going to The. LAKERS i don't. KNOW
i didn't hear anything About VLAD i could be. Wrong
nothing on Dingk, Pate Hunter, Sallis i'm not. SURE i
forgot where R. J lewis is. Going Ryan. HEMMERT i
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got to check up on where some of these guys are.
Going but uh, yeah some some interesting names, obviously you,
know you see R. J, lewis and you, know ever
since that last game in the second round of N state,
tournament you know where he HAD i think shot three or,
seventeen you, know and then you, know got benched the
end of the, game you, know By Rick. Patino then
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put his name in the transer. Portal. IT i thought
he was definitely worthy of getting, drafted BUT i think
the efficiency and then maybe that, incident maybe that kind
of scare teams. Away and you, know so R. J
lewis didn't even get, drafted you, know that bit of
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a disappointment there for. Him But Hunter SALAS i was,
surprised you, know but you know there's some efficiency issues there,
too think pet another guard efficiency, issues you, Know Eric.
DIXON i think teams probably were worried about where does he,
Fit like what is? This you, know he doesn't play,
Defense he's not a great. Defender not a great, athlete you,
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know so do you want that on the, court you,
know especially if you're gonna be a second round. Pick you,
know he could score tremendous. Scorer but you, Know Tomorrow
BATES i really liked a, lot but you, know an undersized,
guy but you, KNOW i THINK i think he's GONNA
i think he's gonna be a. PRO i really think
he's gonna be a. Pro same thing with Like Mark.
Sears you know a lot of people ask me about,
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him but like an undersize big who has you know
too took a step down this year and play wasn't
as good as he was still, good but you, know
what can he do off? Ball defensively? Struggles SO i
can understand why he didn't get. Drafted Ryan, DeMar i,
thought but he kind of excuse me some of the
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some of the same issues were Like Mark sears with, size,
explosiveness stuff like. That who else? Surprising, no that was
pretty much what the guy THAT i really surprised. About
but it's you, know a couple of these guys got
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signed two. WAYS i got to see who, exactly but
it was a, yeah let's go back to one night drafts.
Place we don't need two. Nights this just wasn't needed at.
All wasn't needed at, All go back to go back
to one night drafts PLAY'S. Nba we don't need two.
Nights it was. Uneventful the coverage is very much, lacking
(21:52):
not not good coverage that needs a major obahol major.
Overhol but some of the some of the, winners but
let's let's talk about, that some of the. WINNERS i
Liked orlando's. DRAFT i liked What orlando. DID i Think
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orlando came away with a really good, draft getting some good,
value you, know Getting Jace richardson that that was. Good
no appended at thirty two where some people had, him you,
know top twenty to twenty. Five so to get. THAT
i really like what they did a, lot you, Know
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jase to, me should have went. HIGHER i had, HIM
i had him all agoing a lot. Higher and they
got good value, there got good value. There SO i
liked what they. DID i liked what The Sacramento kings
Didnt clifford where they got Him Maxim. Renault to get
a guy who had eleventh to get him at forty,
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two that's really. Good, obviously The spurs they did a good.
Job Getting Dylan harper And Carter. BRYAN i Like Carter
brian going where he, went good value The. JAZZ i
know the situation with With ace is an. Ideal but
Getting Walter clayton solid and Then Don taja at fifty,
three like he's a score LIKE i don't know if
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he's gonna they feel even, play but if he, does
like he can do some things with the ball in his, Hand,
wizards we're just the solid To jamir Walk. Is getting
him at forty, Three Will riley at twenty. ONE i like.
HIM i think he's gonna be a good, score just
got to add a few. LB's i think he could
be a good score at the next. Level Trey johnson,
too is one of the better you know shooters in the.
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Draft you, know you. Know so those are some. TEAMS
i liked a lot The. PELICANS I i was talking
to A pelicans fan and he loved what they. Did
But i'm NOT i don't, know MAN i Had jeremiah Fears.
LOWER i have him like outside the, lottery you, KNOW
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i worry about some of the pficiency. Stuff Derek QUEEN i,
liked but fit there With zion AND i don't. Know
that's that's gonna be. Tough Michael, PEEVIE i did like
that was, Solid BUT i, mean didn't they trade Their i'm,
Looking i'm trying to, Look. Queen, OH i think they
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traded their pick next. Year so, yeah that that's gonna
be that's. TOUGH A, PELICAN i, mean The, CLIPPERS i
think The PATIENTS i think had a solid draft for
just having picked in the second. Round, well, well The,
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nets obviously we talked about The nets. YESTERDAY i, yeah
The nets very, questionable very. Questionable what The nets, did very.
Questionable What brooklyn. DID i, just, Uh i'm still trying
to figure out what they were trying to. Do miami
getting conspired yells at what they got that was. Solid
(25:18):
worn it's not. Bad they got some good. Picks they
got some good, players some some serious, Players so that's
not bad To. Brooklyn. MAN i JUST i don't, know
like they drafted a lot of guys that, are, like, you're,
upside and it could be risky drafting that many type
of upside, guys you. Know SO i like that The
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hawks got where they Got austin a, well so just you,
know just some of my thoughts on the on the
draft and you, know please make it back to one one.
Night but other, News messaiau no longer with The. Raptors
he got fired and he was let go from The Toronto.
(26:05):
Raptors been there for a, while obviously known for making
the trade For DeMar, DeRozan trading him For Kawhi leonard
and helping them win their first championship in twenty. Nineteen
but he let. GO i, mean that's interesting that they
let him be in the draft and then the next
day they fire. Him so that's very that's very interesting
(26:29):
that they did. That don't know the the basis around
why they did, it but it you, know The raptors
haven't been the same since since they won that, Championship
like they they have been on a steady. Decline they've
they've tried to they've definitely tried to be a competitive,
(26:52):
team but just hasn't it hasn't hit like it did
back you, know but you, know an impressive resume what
he's able to. Do and at one point people were
talking about to retrade draft picks to Get messiah like
he was that high of thought Of and you, Know
(27:13):
i'm sure he'll be back in a front office for,
sure because he is a very talented. Mind but you,
know it was definitely time for change in. Them So
Mesalu jerry no longer no longer a part of The
Toronto raptors. Organization any other. News The knicks don't have
(27:39):
a coach. Still The knicks still don't have a head.
Coach Uh, So nicks still don't have a head. Coach
so we'll see if they finally figure. OUT i they'll
get a head. Coach AND i think that's. It there's
there's not much, else you, know we'll. Get, oh Here's
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kame with more. DISCUSSIONS i think he's someone he Cam
wimer is a type of player THAT i could see
if he goes to a certain, situation he could. Blossom
he's one of those those type of players you trade from.
Me he'll make a major. Lead He's bailey. Information Ace
bailey has had minimal contact with The jazz since being
(28:26):
drafted and yet to arrive In. Utah, oh, man that's.
Crazy The jazz are not expected to give Into Ace
bailey's the. Man, oh we're gonna. See that's gonna. Be
that's an interesting. Situation that's a very interesting. Situation we'll
see how that pans. Out we'll see how that pans.
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Out very interesting, times very interesting. Times but that's gonna
end it for The off The Ball. Podcast appreciate you.
Guys appreciate everyone who who put in the work for these.
Drafts you, know there's a you, know and put in
the time to evaluate these. Players like some of the
best evaluators are not ON tv or not you, know uh,
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independent you know. Scouting you, know these guys are doing
just as good a jobs as some of these guys
in front. Offices so shout out to all those. Guys you,
KNOW i love to get information from these people and
it helps, me you, know better understand you, know the scouting,
process the, scouting what goes behind, it you know these.
Valuations so shout out to, that and shout out to
(29:33):
anyone who had me on their platforms to discuss. Draft,
LOOK i Don't i'm not going to sit here and
say THAT i am a. GURU i am a. SCOUT
i love to understand who's coming into the, draft understand
and try to in a, sense try to give you
guys a Cliff nos version of you know who's coming.
In you, Know i'm not going to break down all
(29:53):
the analytics of. It BUT i will give you, guys you,
know enough information so you better understand who's swimming. In
and you, know especially with The knicks at at fifty
and now you know they took to, uh they went
to fifty. One it's like mamado or you, know just
give you some information on these guys so you could
better understand whose potential targets for the Next so appreciate.
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Everyone this draft season is always. Fun and now we
get ready for free agency and we'll see what trades
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For Summer. League you, know THE nba never. Stopped so appreciate.
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Welcome back to another episode of the Off the Ball
Podcast with me Or Hopes, Chris Lebron and we got
a lot to discuss. Night two of the NBA Draft
is over. We're gonna talk about who are the biggest winners,
who are the biggest losers, Which players benefited the most
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from the you know, the impact of nil and so
many top notch players going back to school, some losers
of the process. Which teams come out of the draft
feeling really good, which teams may be not feeling so hot.
Also Massaiyu Jerry being parting ways with the Toronto Raptors
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or he is no longer a part of basketball ops
for the Toronto Raptors. We'll discuss that the Knicks selection
at fifty and then trading back down one spot at
fifty one and select them Dilara. We'll discuss stat but
let's get right into it. First of all, this pro
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The NBA Draft Night two is over. Please, I'm silver NBA.
Let's make it one night again. Let's make it one
night again. We can get all this done in three hours,
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three three hours, you can get this all done. Let's
do it. But let let's do that. I I also
I don't like how they picked. I didn't like how
they picked. Who gets to uh get a actual like
introduction and who doesn't? You know, you know I don't
think everyway. Yeah, we harp, you know they harp so
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much on Jokic got drafted during a a Taco bell
commercial and then some guys were drafted during commercials now,
let let kids have their moment. You know, there's only
sixty picks in the NFL draft, or there's two hundred
and whatever amount of picks there's a limited amount of
there's only fifty nine picks this year. Let these Let
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everyone have a moment, regardless of they're at the bar,
they were at the Barker Center or not. Let kids
have their moment and to see themselves get their name called.
Don't have to get their name called during a commercial break.
You know. I think sometimes ESPN wants to catch that
moment so they can have that be the you know,
oh yeah, look at this guy. You know he was
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drafted during a Geico commercial. Let's just have it, but
have a moment. Nobody needs to go through that. But regardless,
Night two is over, and it started off initially with
the Wolves, we're going to be on the clock, but
they wound up trading the pick to the Phoenix Suns
and a guy who I was really surprised dropped into
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the second round. I had Rashier Fleming leave top. Let's
see exactly where I had mister Rashier Fleming. I think
I had in top twenty. Yeah, he was top twenty
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for me. He was fifteen. I believe he was fifteen
on my board. And for the Sons to co op
and trade for him, that said, that was a good pick.
That was a good pick up for them. So they
started off and then you know, you obviously the guys
we saw kind of who we thought were gonna be
the first round picks. We saw them kind of going
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no appended was a guy who many thought was a
first round pick. You know, he's going to Orlando. Boston
had to pick the want a training and throw line Orlando.
I liked what Orlando did in just draft. I really
liked their draft. And then Sion James, a guy who
I think I had way to have Sion on my board.
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He was I think top forty five and he goes
thirty three. Really really happy for obviously being a Duke
fan seeing Cion, but just his his his journey, you know,
going to Tulane and I don't even think he was
on anyone's radar, you know, you know before you know
this this year at Duke. But then took over the
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ball handling duties when they were having some some real
difficulties trying to you know, trying to find that lead guard.
And he took over and really played a major role
on why Duke had success. And he was a menace
on defense, improved the shooting, so a good a good.
Uh a good. I don't even know what's going on there. Well,
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just very crazy, but yeah, a improved shooter, a lockdown
from one of the better wing you know, perimeter defenders
on ball defenders in this draft. He's a bull. Give
me a lot of Eleu Dort vibes like that in
that mold, like that type of player, like the shot
I think will be better. He can he can handle
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the rock a little bit, so I like that pick.
And and for Charlotte just getting more serious players, just
getting more serious basketball player. So I was good. Ryan Kulkbrenner.
I thought he was going to go in the first round.
He wound up. I think he's going to uh uh,
he's going to Charlotte too, right, I think he's going
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to Charlotte too. So, like I said, Charlotte getting more
getting more serious basketball players. So you know that they're
they're that's good, that's good for them. Johnny Broom And
then I had a due theory. I think where was
the due on my board? I really love a due thero.
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I had him fourteenth. I believe he goes. I know
there were some things his knee, some issues with his knee,
and I know some people were worried about his shot,
but he's a bull and the Lakers gonna get him.
So the Lakers get some winged help, which they they
kind of did need, along with some big help some
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bigs that they needed. So I like to do theopic
and Chas Lanier, one of the better shooters in the class,
goes Cam Jones. People. Some people thought he might go
on drafted because of the combine stuff and not having
you're not being an explosive guy, not having the intangibles,
not the intangibles, the measurables you know that you want.
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But did a good job this year taking over the
league guard spot when Colic you know what was obviously
drafted last year, Elijah Martin, he doesn't go in. I
had him top thirty. I love he's one of that
was one of my guys, like my Fay fives, Elijah Martin. Uh.
I had him thirtieth on my board, higher than most
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people had him, if not the highest, and he goes here.
He's going to the Toronto Raptors. So happy for Elijah
mar and love his journey. Another bulldog. I think he's
like a bigger version, a more a stronger version of
Duce McBride, Uh, to me, the best perimeter defender in
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this in this draft. And this is where you know,
as a Knicks fan, a lot of my guys go.
You know, I like, I love obviously a du theory.
I loved uh. You know, I knew Fleming was gonna go.
I knew Kalk Brennan was gonna go. But I'm like,
maybe a do the drops the need thing doesn't happen.
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It doesn't happen, you know. So I was like, Okay.
Then all my guys started going. All my guys started going,
and I'm just like, all right, this this sucks, This sucks,
this sucks. And then you get an Elijah mar Mikehpeevi.
I was like, ah, man, you know a guy who
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I who I really liked, you know, a physical wing
to guard, you know. And then Kobe Braya goes and
I'm like, oh that. And then Maxine Brunad goes, who
I had eleventh on my board. He goes and I'm like,
what's going on here? No, We're just gonna miss. And
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then JIMMYR. Watkins goes. You know, so like one, two, three,
four or five straight guys who are like, are really
I was higher on than most people. Go seven eight
got eight straight players who I was really high on
them than consensus. Go. So I'm like, oh, we're not
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going to get our guy, and the Knicks aren't going
to trade up, you know, as much as I had
wanted to. And I said, you know, if if Kobe
Bray is there in the forties, trade up, and he
was there at forty one and they didn't move up,
you know that that was a little there's a that
was a little little little disappointed to that that they
didn't move up up for that. But then I followed
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by Brooks Barnizer from from from Northwestern goes and Rocos
the Karski was another guy where I was like, it
might be worthy to take a shot on him an
upside pick, because now I'm thinking, all right, let's just
take an upside guy. And Roco is a seven foot four,
eighteen year old, Like, okay, that's gonna be an upside pick.
He goes to Minnesota. Then I'm like, all right, Mary Williams,
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I've talked about he's on the board, or even a
bubble Jum Markovich, the Serbian kid, maybe him. Those are two,
especially Bogolup, like I need. I might be butchering his
first name. But Markovic is an upside pick too. They go,
Mari goes and he's going to Boston, and I was like, Oh,
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he's going to Boston. That's that's uh, you know, that's
a good pick for them. Bubbleo's going to I believe
he's going to the Bucks. Then Jamal Davone's small goals,
and then like, all right, maybe Procter or you know,
I was thinking of Kobe Sanders too, and then you know,
Procter goals. Then I'm like, all right, Kobe Sanders is there.
He's someone that I was intrigued about. Okay, maybe you know,
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you know, six foot seven, you know, can you know
it's just a good player, strong, you know, maybe maybe
and we take him and then we trade the pick.
We trade the pick, and I'm not sure. I gotta
I gotta see. Maybe I could find out from Begs
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what the trade exactly was that, what else did we
get in the return? Trying to see that was at
work yesterday, so I didn't get to watch it all,
you know, or live, but I'm trying to see maybe
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it was just a straight all right, So the Knicks
just got the draft rights to uh Luka Metrovic, who
was taken like a decade ago, right, so that sucks.
I would have liked Kobe Sanders, but you know, they
and then they filed with the fifty first pick and
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the Knicks wound up taking Mohammed Aara, you know, the
French kid. And if you you know, in the in
the KFTV chat, we were like, you know, no, you know, Chris,
don't jinks with the French guys, and sorry, guys, we
will end up getting another Frenchman, another Frenchman with upside,
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and the Knicks have a have a quite a fascination
with the French, but they wound up taking the French forward,
Mohammed di Auara. He is an intriguing prospect for sure.
He has all the side you want, six foot eight,
two hundred plus pounds, strong, built like an Ox, you know,
has that you know, you know, not gonna get wild
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with the stats. Like I said, this is a this
is from what I heard. He's he's coming to the
States and play like I don't know if it's technically
a draft in stats, but six foot eight, six foot
nine range, seven foot four wingspan, and you know that's
always going to get you drafted. If you have the
six foot eight, seven foot plus wingspan build, I don't
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care what your stats are, you have a high high
chance of getting drafted. You have a plus five or
more wingspan, you know you are going to get drafted.
I think it's a nine foot plus you know, standing reach.
It's impressive, like his physical tools are impressive, but just
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some stuff here. You know, he played in the French
Metallic batyle of Elite League. You know, average six points
three rebounds started for the French, the French under twenty
team that won the year championships last year. An impressive
physical you know, talent, things need to be worked on. Offensively,
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the offenses is not is not there. It's not there
right now, So do not expect to see to see
any much offensive, you know, and in transition, yeah, you
may be able to see some stuff, you know. I
think he's he'll he'll be able to do some stuff
on that on that end, but you're not going to
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get much else. The shooting isn't there not a good
free throw shooter. There's there's He's just simply really raw
and I don't know if he'll ever be able to
be the offensive player that some may have wanted, you
know with that pick, but obviously you're limited on what
you can get. Like a lot of the players that
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I really wanted were gone. Like I said, eight, there
was eight or nine guys that went, you know consecutively
that went that I would have liked, you know. So
I'm just going to try to pull up some stats
from it, so like we're trying to give you a
better analysis of like I said, all the measurables and
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chat thirty two from three fifty percent from the free
throw line. There's a very mitchieus numbers. Like I said,
you're not going to get much. They're not going to
get much from him, you know, offensively. You know, he
is just going to be a defensive type of guy.
You know, plays the lanes really well. Like I said, strong,
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has the length arm length. So those those are just
some things you know as a good as a good motor.
So though, those are just some things to look forward to.
Mohammad d r r. You know, simple simple upside pick.
You know, I didn't have him on my board. He
wasn't a top fifty nine to sixty player for me.
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You know, I might have had if I would have
put him overall on the board, maybe it would have
been in the seventies eighty range, because you know he
does have upside, and you know he is six eight
six' nine with a seven foot four, wingspan and those.
Things you know teams are going to absolutely love and
you know you can always you, know everyone thinks they.
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Can they can fix those type of guys and mold
them into some type of. Player but we'll. SEE i don't,
know you, know how he's going to fit in into
the rotation or even if he even sees the rotation this.
YEAR i DON'T i wouldn't think, so but we'll, see,
well you, know we'll see how he works in summer.
League so that's that's where The knicks picked with the
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fifty first. Pick they had originally Drafted Kobe, sanders but
then traded it to The clippers for a draft rights
for my player from, before from way, before and the
rights to Draft Muhammad. Diarra so not a lot of
drama with The knicks in the. Draft and then followed
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that With john To Alex, towhey WHICH i would have
been intrigued. About two In New. York John, tadja you
know the kid From. Wisconsin you, know can score older,
prospect but he can score Than Taylan, peter you know
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From liberty Lake, Land, olbridge The australian. Kid Will Richard
florida gets three guys drafted in this. DRAFT i had
a prediction of two in the. First elijah you, know
fell into the, thirties so almost. Almost Mac chalga FROM
vcu he's going to The Boston. Celtics Chilo, niang the
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guard From, senegal he's going to the Cab and then
to follow, Up Jami mayshak From tennessee ends the. Draft so,
that like, said fifty nine, picks wish they would do.
Sixty somebody's deserved to get you, know someone got screwed
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out of not getting their name. Heard and there were
some interesting players that did not get. Drafted you, know
some guys that are were on my top on my.
Board you, know guys Like Eric, Dixon Lad, golden they
were on my. Board you, know Dnk PATE R. J,
Lewis Hunter, Sallas Ryan, Nemhard Tamar. Bates you, know there's
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some you, Know Bryce, williams some interesting. NAMES i Think
Eric dixon is going to The. LAKERS i don't. KNOW
i didn't hear anything About VLAD i could be. Wrong
nothing on Dingk, Pate Hunter, Sallis i'm not. SURE i
forgot where R. J lewis is. Going Ryan. HEMMERT i
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got to check up on where some of these guys are.
Going but uh, yeah some some interesting names, obviously you,
know you see R. J, lewis and you, know ever
since that last game in the second round of N state,
tournament you know where he HAD i think shot three or,
seventeen you, know and then you, know got benched the
end of the, game you, know By Rick. Patino then
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put his name in the transer. Portal. IT i thought
he was definitely worthy of getting, drafted BUT i think
the efficiency and then maybe that, incident maybe that kind
of scare teams. Away and you, know so R. J
lewis didn't even get, drafted you, know that bit of
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a disappointment there for. Him But Hunter SALAS i was,
surprised you, know but you know there's some efficiency issues there,
too think pet another guard efficiency, issues you, Know Eric.
DIXON i think teams probably were worried about where does he,
Fit like what is? This you, know he doesn't play,
Defense he's not a great. Defender not a great, athlete you,
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know so do you want that on the, court you,
know especially if you're gonna be a second round. Pick you,
know he could score tremendous. Scorer but you, Know Tomorrow
BATES i really liked a, lot but you, know an undersized,
guy but you, KNOW i THINK i think he's GONNA
i think he's gonna be a. PRO i really think
he's gonna be a. Pro same thing with Like Mark.
Sears you know a lot of people ask me about,
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him but like an undersize big who has you know
too took a step down this year and play wasn't
as good as he was still, good but you, know
what can he do off? Ball defensively? Struggles SO i
can understand why he didn't get. Drafted Ryan, DeMar i,
thought but he kind of excuse me some of the
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some of the same issues were Like Mark sears with, size,
explosiveness stuff like. That who else? Surprising, no that was
pretty much what the guy THAT i really surprised. About
but it's you, know a couple of these guys got
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signed two. WAYS i got to see who, exactly but
it was a, yeah let's go back to one night drafts.
Place we don't need two. Nights this just wasn't needed at.
All wasn't needed at, All go back to go back
to one night drafts PLAY'S. Nba we don't need two.
Nights it was. Uneventful the coverage is very much, lacking
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not not good coverage that needs a major obahol major.
Overhol but some of the some of the, winners but
let's let's talk about, that some of the. WINNERS i
Liked orlando's. DRAFT i liked What orlando. DID i Think
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orlando came away with a really good, draft getting some good,
value you, know Getting Jace richardson that that was. Good
no appended at thirty two where some people had, him you,
know top twenty to twenty. Five so to get. THAT
i really like what they did a, lot you, Know
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jase to, me should have went. HIGHER i had, HIM
i had him all agoing a lot. Higher and they
got good value, there got good value. There SO i
liked what they. DID i liked what The Sacramento kings
Didnt clifford where they got Him Maxim. Renault to get
a guy who had eleventh to get him at forty,
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two that's really. Good, obviously The spurs they did a good.
Job Getting Dylan harper And Carter. BRYAN i Like Carter
brian going where he, went good value The. JAZZ i
know the situation with With ace is an. Ideal but
Getting Walter clayton solid and Then Don taja at fifty,
three like he's a score LIKE i don't know if
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he's gonna they feel even, play but if he, does
like he can do some things with the ball in his, Hand,
wizards we're just the solid To jamir Walk. Is getting
him at forty, Three Will riley at twenty. ONE i like.
HIM i think he's gonna be a good, score just
got to add a few. LB's i think he could
be a good score at the next. Level Trey johnson,
too is one of the better you know shooters in the.
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Draft you, know you. Know so those are some. TEAMS
i liked a lot The. PELICANS I i was talking
to A pelicans fan and he loved what they. Did
But i'm NOT i don't, know MAN i Had jeremiah Fears.
LOWER i have him like outside the, lottery you, KNOW
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i worry about some of the pficiency. Stuff Derek QUEEN i,
liked but fit there With zion AND i don't. Know
that's that's gonna be. Tough Michael, PEEVIE i did like
that was, Solid BUT i, mean didn't they trade Their i'm,
Looking i'm trying to, Look. Queen, OH i think they
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traded their pick next. Year so, yeah that that's gonna
be that's. TOUGH A, PELICAN i, mean The, CLIPPERS i
think The PATIENTS i think had a solid draft for
just having picked in the second. Round, well, well The,
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nets obviously we talked about The nets. YESTERDAY i, yeah
The nets very, questionable very. Questionable what The nets, did very.
Questionable What brooklyn. DID i, just, Uh i'm still trying
to figure out what they were trying to. Do miami
getting conspired yells at what they got that was. Solid
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worn it's not. Bad they got some good. Picks they
got some good, players some some serious, Players so that's
not bad To. Brooklyn. MAN i JUST i don't, know
like they drafted a lot of guys that, are, like, you're,
upside and it could be risky drafting that many type
of upside, guys you. Know SO i like that The
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hawks got where they Got austin a, well so just you,
know just some of my thoughts on the on the
draft and you, know please make it back to one one.
Night but other, News messaiau no longer with The. Raptors
he got fired and he was let go from The Toronto.
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Raptors been there for a, while obviously known for making
the trade For DeMar, DeRozan trading him For Kawhi leonard
and helping them win their first championship in twenty. Nineteen
but he let. GO i, mean that's interesting that they
let him be in the draft and then the next
day they fire. Him so that's very that's very interesting
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that they did. That don't know the the basis around
why they did, it but it you, know The raptors
haven't been the same since since they won that, Championship
like they they have been on a steady. Decline they've
they've tried to they've definitely tried to be a competitive,
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team but just hasn't it hasn't hit like it did
back you, know but you, know an impressive resume what
he's able to. Do and at one point people were
talking about to retrade draft picks to Get messiah like
he was that high of thought Of and you, Know
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i'm sure he'll be back in a front office for,
sure because he is a very talented. Mind but you,
know it was definitely time for change in. Them So
Mesalu jerry no longer no longer a part of The
Toronto raptors. Organization any other. News The knicks don't have
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a coach. Still The knicks still don't have a head.
Coach Uh, So nicks still don't have a head. Coach
so we'll see if they finally figure. OUT i they'll
get a head. Coach AND i think that's. It there's
there's not much, else you, know we'll. Get, oh Here's
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kame with more. DISCUSSIONS i think he's someone he Cam
wimer is a type of player THAT i could see
if he goes to a certain, situation he could. Blossom
he's one of those those type of players you trade from.
Me he'll make a major. Lead He's bailey. Information Ace
bailey has had minimal contact with The jazz since being
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drafted and yet to arrive In. Utah, oh, man that's.
Crazy The jazz are not expected to give Into Ace
bailey's the. Man, oh we're gonna. See that's gonna. Be
that's an interesting. Situation that's a very interesting. Situation we'll
see how that pans. Out we'll see how that pans.
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Out very interesting, times very interesting. Times but that's gonna
end it for The off The Ball. Podcast appreciate you.
Guys appreciate everyone who who put in the work for these.
Drafts you, know there's a you, know and put in
the time to evaluate these. Players like some of the
best evaluators are not ON tv or not you, know uh,
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independent you know. Scouting you, know these guys are doing
just as good a jobs as some of these guys
in front. Offices so shout out to all those. Guys you,
KNOW i love to get information from these people and
it helps, me you, know better understand you, know the scouting,
process the, scouting what goes behind, it you know these.
Valuations so shout out to, that and shout out to
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anyone who had me on their platforms to discuss. Draft,
LOOK i Don't i'm not going to sit here and
say THAT i am a. GURU i am a. SCOUT
i love to understand who's coming into the, draft understand
and try to in a, sense try to give you
guys a Cliff nos version of you know who's coming.
In you, Know i'm not going to break down all
(29:53):
the analytics of. It BUT i will give you, guys you,
know enough information so you better understand who's swimming. In
and you, know especially with The knicks at at fifty
and now you know they took to, uh they went
to fifty. One it's like mamado or you, know just
give you some information on these guys so you could
better understand whose potential targets for the Next so appreciate.
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Everyone this draft season is always. Fun and now we
get ready for free agency and we'll see what trades
are gonna. Happen and you, know then we get ready
For Summer. League you, know THE nba never. Stopped so appreciate.
Everyone i'll make sure to follow. Me all my links
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