April 30, 2025 • 51 mins
Welcome to Offbeat! The Light Side of Law Enforcement. In this 51st episode,
former Officer Steve Alexander and former officer and Air Marshall Jeff Parkerson share stories about stinky pranks, expendable rookies, a romantic story between a K9 and his blanket, and more!
Hosted by retired police officer Steve Rutherford and retired officer Josh Jackson.
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former Officer Steve Alexander and former officer and Air Marshall Jeff Parkerson share stories about stinky pranks, expendable rookies, a romantic story between a K9 and his blanket, and more!
Hosted by retired police officer Steve Rutherford and retired officer Josh Jackson.
Links:
Alexander Financial Management
Cook DFW Roofing & Restoration
Cindy Laisure Farmers Insurance
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome, Welcome to off Beat the Light Side of Law Enforcement,
part of the Treehouse Podcast Network, and you're a host,
Steve Rutherford.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Gosh, you killed the lights well, you know you're doing
your introduction. I felt like you didn't need it. You're
no longer on the spotlight. I mean, I can't get
you a thumbs up. I don't know what else you want. Yes,
a thumbs up. I know what that was. It is
a thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's still going back to last week's show where I
told the story of why I've got my thumb wrapped up.
Be careful if you're using knives to cut anything out there. Again,
I'm your host, Steve Rutherford Today, You're welcome Steve, so
much fun with the light bar. And we welcome Josh
(01:18):
Jackson Mack his co host today. And Josh loves a
little button he's got over here. Let's switch. I'm here
for Steve's therapy, so I really don't have an argument
for that one, Josh. Nothing comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's a great day here in the studio. We're joined
by two guests. We've got Steve Alexander joining us and
and we've got Jeff Parkerson. Hello, So thank you gentlemen
for being here. It's it could be a complicated show
with Josh over here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Whose turn is it to watch this guy? Guaranteed? I
would not expect anything less from you. Josh. Well, normally
you have Karen here to keep me in check, but
I'm free reigning today just as long as you don't
have sound buttons over there for him.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I mean, I come equip my own. I got them
outch at g GP.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know, Jeff, until you brought that up, I hadn't
even thought about that. But now, yeah, you might have
to consider that the future. So just didn't reach over
and hit eating buttons or anything on the console.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I do have long arms. Yeah you did, you did?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
And Josh Waite where we're on the topic of Josh
Jackson here, Sure man, I saw that your your daughter's
car got taken.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I sure did, I sure did.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, she's in college down a corpus and uh she
is the victim of the Kia Hyundai TikTok challenge.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Thank you very much. TikTok.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So it is uh in the wind of a week
and a half now, no no word, no word, not
not not one. So uh yeah, that's fun stuff. The
full college experience, So maybe I should say the full
Corpus Christie experience.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Either one works, I think. Well, our friend Mark down there,
he hasn't found it for her.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
He did ask what she was driving, and I told
her it was a twenty nineteen Key Optima Black, and
he goes, there's a few of those around here, so.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's gonna be hard to find that. So it is
what it is. Well, and how she doing? I mean,
that's that's draumatic cabin here car.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So so here's the funny part. So, as a good cop,
right asked her to make a list of all the
stolen items. And her very first thing on the list,
you know what we would have want is like in
decreasing value. Right, The very first thing on her list
is a little croucheted honeybee that she had stuff between
the rearview mirror and the roof. And she said, that's
(03:49):
the most important thing. I said, it was handmade. She goes,
I know, it's it's priceless, it's sentimental. Make sure she
doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Make sure she tells the.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Company is one of a kind. It's a one of
a kind so cannot be replaced. So yeah, so she uh,
you know, like college kid. She used that as storage
on her trunk. So because the dorm is on so big,
so a long list of stolen items.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
So but I hate to hear that. You know, we
we all have a passion for thieves, right, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I had many people tell me that they would much
rather arrest a burglar or theft suspect.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Than a doper. And no, granted, sometimes and many times
les go hand in hand.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well that was kind of our policy in our old
police department, wasn't it, Josh, I think so burglars burglars.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, I don't worry aboutd W I s yep.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't know if I go that far they did,
but definitely it was always fun to always fun to
catch a burglar.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
In fact, my first fleet accident was because I was
trying to catch a burglar. I was in a Chevy
and Paula in the colony and blacked out behind big
Lots and there was a curve that jetted out about
fifteen feet and the front radiator hit right on that point.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And the night shift.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Lieutenant had a policy that if you caused the wreck,
it was your fault.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You ride with the wrecker the right of shame. So
it's like two three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So wrecker shows up in a single cat pickup with
his giant mast of sitting in the passenger seat.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Nice. He goes, where's your ride? I said, you're it.
He goes, have fun. I sat.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I sat right in the center between the dogs staring
at me and the direcor driver. Yeah, I sat in
the center. The dog wouldn't move so well.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Back then, we also had a polse that you only
had to have your lights on at night on three
different streets. Yeah, because they wanted us looking for burglars.
So that was old days before they had the big
highways going through.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
There and all that. Yeah, the colony didn't. It's not
the same colony. Oh, I've got a good burglar story.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Back when I was in a rookie, we got a
call this special got a call from a guy that
was a manager at the Gibson store. You know, they're
kind of like the predecessor to the big walmarts. Anyway,
the guy says, Hey, I'm the manager. I'm working late.
It's one in the morning, and he said, I heard
a gun shot and I looked outside and there's this
guy breaking out our front plate glass window. So luckily
(06:23):
I was the first one there, and as I drove
up and looked across the park, I saw the burglar
run across inside the front. So we kept the manager
on the phone. He was locked in the office there
and he could see kind of where the guy was
from his cameras, So we left the guy out front,
the rest of us from around the back. The manager said, hey,
here's the combination. You get in the back door. So
(06:46):
luckily that night our sergeant was was a dog handler.
He got in promoted sergeant being a rookie sergeant. He
was a swing sergeant. So he was our sergeant that night.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
But I saw a canine handler.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And a canight handler. Yeah, and I never worked with him,
and he's a grouchy old guy. I've been there thirty
something years. So I'm thinking, man, this is great. I'm
a rookie. I'm going to get to see how the
dog works. I'm gonna see it. You get to see
a dog go in and buy the burglar. So the
sergeant gets his dog out, uh, and he collars at me.
He says it was Camire Hobson, cam here here is
(07:18):
another rookie. H I said, okay, Serge, what are you
gonna do? How are we going to do this? He said,
We're not doing that. I'm not sending my dog in there.
He might shoot him. But you guys go in there. Yeah,
that's kind of the value of a rookie. Anyway, we
went in, we found the burglar. He was hiding behind
some boxes in the storeroom, and we got him out.
(07:40):
But forever and ever we were kidded about the value
of sergeant's dog versus a rookie on our force.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Those dogs aren't cheap to train.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, wait, how much does it cost to try a
dog versus a versus a new office?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know, it's probably I mean the dogs. It depends
on how many disciplines you trained the dog.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Again, sure, I found a good solution for people hiding.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Pepper spray works awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
So if you don't know, like if somebody went running
behind a dumpster or they're hiding behind box or whatever,
just a little square to pepper spray and you hear coughing,
you know where they're at.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Everybody used to cough in that situation. Now, now, Steve,
you you had mentioned when you were an officer. So
you're a former officer. Where did you work?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I worked at Mesquite Okay, Mesquite PD.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Keep PDH seven years, had a great career. It was
a good department, work for good guys. I did that
and then went back and finished college.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And from there that took you on to still the
city Mesquite correct.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, And I volunteerly left the department after seven years.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I was not asked to leave. I went, it's an
important clarification. Yeah, that's what everybody automatically thinks. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I left and went into the private sector and enjoyed that.
But the Police Association called me and said, hey, we
need a guy to run for city council. We want
you to be our guy. Come down and talk to us.
So I went down and talked to him, and they
explained how that all worked, and I agreed, and they
endorsed me and.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Helped finance the campaign.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Anyway, got me elected to the city council, the first
police officer to serve on the former police officer to
serve on the city council.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I think that's a dream of every police officers association,
is to get one of their former guys elected on.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yoursel and then went well. We got a lot of
positive stuff done. I enjoyed working with those guys, obviously,
and it sure cut out a lot of the criticism
from council members and mayors when we got talking about
police issues. Obviously, they're probably the biggest budget in the city. Sure,
one of the things I did talking about that and
(09:55):
talk about traffic and stuff. We had a sergeant in
five guys who worked traffied. We didn't have any motorcyclests.
The city just always their policy not to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Josh, you're not crying over here, are you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You know, it hurts a little, but it's okay. No motors,
That's okay. Those days are gone for me.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
A lot of the guys ride the motor for free.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Anyways, budget time getting ready to place cars, and everybody
there drove those Crown Vicks that everybody used to have.
And you know, I thought, I'm a traffic guy and
I got to chase down speeders and do other stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
There's got to be a better option.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So I talked to the traffic guys, and I talked
to the association, and we got them six brand u
Z twenty eight camaros.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
For the traffic cars nice and they loved it.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
They loved driving them, but they did and they said
they clucked somebody speeding and they'd be rid on his
butt before he knew it. They turned their lights on
and there they were. He said, rarely did everybody, anybody
ever try to run from them. And it was a blast.
It was their take on cars, the head of the neighborhood.
So we got to do some fun stuff like that
and improve I think the quality of what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well that you know, and that's that's greatly appreciated, especially
when you look at elected officials, council members, mayors, stuff
like that. You know, elected officials that support their first responders. Yeah,
that's huge, and that's what it takes.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And we have good mayors.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Had worked for two different mayors, We had good mayors,
We had good council members. Had no desire to be
the mayor. But I like being just that far up
the ladder. Who are you just can get some things done.
But nothing was my fault wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You were just there to pass out Z twenty eight
to officers. That's that was pretty popular. You were like, Oprah,
you get a car, You get a car.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Now, Jeff, you're a former officer as well. Correct, and
you told me earlier that you're also a marine. Yes, right,
and you were in the Marine Corps. So thank you
for your service, sir, thank you. Now, where all did
you work in law enforcement?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
So started out as a reserve officer in Irving and
that was in two thousand and uh. Then in two
thousand and two I went to the Colony, worked there
for a few years. Then I went to Louisville for
a few years, and then I went to la as
an air marshal for.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
A few years.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So you got to work for several different agencies I did. Yeah,
I have to ask this to the Air Marshal. You're
you're the first air marshal we've you know, former air
marshal we've had on the show. What is it like
being an air marshal?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It is, uh, the the training is awesome.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
So I became a really good shooter when I went
to the Air Marshals because we just our training is
top notch. The job kind of becomes boring. So after
being on the streets going to Air Marshals, sitting in
a can every day, I mean, you're dealing with the
you know, delays, you're dealing with airports, delays, all that stuff.
(12:56):
It becomes kind of boring. But you get to go
to all these cool places. I went to eighteen countries
over and over and over and over, so you're never home.
So that so that's a downside of it. But there's
there's great things about it. But you know, it did
kind of get boring.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
So what kind of what kind of things did you
have to react to or respond to? I mean, were
you were you ever called to have to react to
something on the plane? I mean, are you dealing with
intoxicated folks on the plane? Are you just there in
case someone tries to storm the cockpit?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
No, if a if an intoxicated person assaulted a flight attendant,
we would, but that never happened.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So other than that, just called airport PD to come
drag them off the plane if they need.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
To, right, I mean, if if they were just intoxicated,
the flight tance you use it, dealt with it. If
they get assaulted, then you know we we would have
to step in. But other than that, we would blow
our cover. So our mission is to protect that cockpit.
So that's the number one mission.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Sure. So okay, so tell you I got a question,
go for it.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
If you pull your weapons, shoot and fire around and
it goes through the wall of the airplane, something bad happened.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
It could Yeah, all right, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't think that's been tested yet. But uh, what
they told us. What they told us is that the
pilots would drop the do a nosedive, drop the plane
below eighteen thousand and.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
It's not been tested yet. Yeah, let's hope that doesn't
ever have to be tested. Oh and and in the academy,
they gave us like a half day class on all
the gadgets in the cockpit. And I'm like, yeah, I
hope I never have to get up here and do
anything in this cockpit because that's a lot of gadgets.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I've neutralized the threat. And now I'm flying a jumbo jet.
I remember this from the academy. This, but you worked
on your pilot license too.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Oh yeah, it's uh in yeah, the those those planes
are totally different, so that that even wouldn't help me
with all the gadgets button right.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Well, yeah, I was always curious about that, And I mean,
you you gotta you don't want to blow your cover,
so you would we would we know if there's near
Marshall on the plane, I mean, would would we be
able to I mean, that dude's a cop right, You're
getting on before we get called out.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
We got called out occasionally, so I had, uh, I
have people called me out. So I had Randy Jackson
from American IUTO called me out.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So he uh.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
He talked to me the whole five hours from New
Jersey to l A And as we're coming in to
lant He's like, is that your partner in front of us?
And I was like, I mean, we're landing, We're done.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I was like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
So the Oscar the Oscars were the next day. So
my partner was the only other one not famous in
first class. So my partners sitting next to Meryl Street
sell my hikes. There a girl from Titanic, her husband
and kidd over there.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So yeah, we stood out, but.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You could He just said, no, I think that's her
security detail or something.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, could have.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Do the pilots know when you guys are on the plane.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yes, yeah, so, and it's it's done differently whether it's
in the United States or overseas, but you know, in
the in the US, they're just we're just on the
manifest and the uh, the gay agents know who we
are based on the booking agent. So and then we
just walk up and show our IDs and so they
(16:35):
know where we're.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
At booking agent f A, a Federal Air marshal or
now we have fake fake companies.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Got got to maintain that cover.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Uh, Jeff, you you wrote a lot of stories with
you today, and you know, and this is your time back,
you know, going back to the streets when you're when
you're on I would.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Assume working patrol. Since yes, since you're back in the States.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You mentioned someone involved in a fleet accident and.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
The the excuse they gave.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So, so, Jeff, what is the best excuse you've ever
heard an officer give for the a fleet vehicle accident?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I saw UFO. So yeah, and it was like a
holiday too. It was either like New Year's Eve or
Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But it couldn't wait wait wait, so it could have
been slid, could have been could have been Christmas.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Could have been that is a UFO.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
It's unidentified, sure, but yeah, so uh so yeah he
and it wasn't even really an accident. It's just pop
the tar hit a curb popped a tar we have
to do actually report on that. Calls the uh, you know,
the traffic division comes out and he said what what happened?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
He's like, I swear I saw UFO and UH and
what agency were working at the time I was at Lewisville.
Did you guys require psychological testing for being hired on? Yes? Okay,
I just wanted to like, I'm not sure if we
did at the colony though, but yes, how many uf
(18:11):
you UFOs have you ever seen? Okay?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I didn't mean to interrupt, but oh well, so yeah,
he tells traffic guys, I swear I saw UFO. So
the funniest thing is, we have this graph that you
draw the accident scene in the diagram, and yeah, and
he puts UFO in the drawing the traffic guy and
then then he turns around and writes the officer ticket
(18:36):
because that was our policy. Totally screwing with him though,
But the traffic officer right in the ticket had a
ticket book of another officer, so he doesn't have to
deal with it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So the other traffic.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Officer now has to go and do a memo of
why he's not submitting this traffic ticket.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But it was all to screw with this guy. So
that is the ultimate prank right there. Yeah, I mean,
the guy's nervous. Am I in trouble is this?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
And he's he's he's still pretty much a rookie at
the time too, so he doesn't know how, you know,
he's he's probably thinking that these guys are really serious,
so he doesn't know these guys too well.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And so yeah, and really, since.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
He is a rookie and he's going to be asking
everybody for advice, Hey man, am I really in trouble
for this?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You've really got to get.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
The whole department. Oh it's yeah, absolutely, at least your
entire shift. So that way when he goes and ask
for advice, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
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Speaker 5 (19:38):
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Speaker 1 (19:45):
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Speaker 6 (19:58):
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Speaker 1 (20:04):
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Speaker 2 (20:12):
Now. Now, Daniel, you have a Facebook page and I've
seen some of the videos that you've posted recently, and
one that really got my attention was about metal roofs.
What can you tell us about metal roofs.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
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Speaker 6 (20:37):
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are wanting to look for a different option on roofing materials.
Metal roofs are a great option. There are different types.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
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Speaker 6 (20:58):
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(21:19):
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Speaker 7 (21:46):
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Speaker 6 (21:48):
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Speaker 2 (21:54):
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Speaker 8 (22:20):
Hi. This is Joanne Jackson my husband, Dallas police officer
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Speaker 4 (22:48):
Welcome Stephen.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Gosh uff us, Lord Son, and we're back back to
more offbeat the light side of law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I'm your host, Steve Brutherford, and your co host for
today is none other than Josh Jackson. Out of y'all
go ass go who avalanche? Avalanche? Heck? Yeah, what sport
is that? Golf? Yeah? Josh.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Josh has this thing in the studio. If you're not
watched on YouTube, first off, you should be. But if
you're not watching on YouTube, We've got a squad car
light bar that hangs up and Josh has a switch
that we normally run the lights coming into the beginning
of the show, but Josh just likes to periodically hit
the lights and throw them on. So yep, there's lights.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
You know, Steve would really helped if you gave me
like a motorcycle seat, you know, like one of those
like in a bar, right the saddle, you know, and
I could have handlebars and I could host like that
co host co host hosty.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Ho hosts.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
After twenty years of seeing the red and blues, he's
gotta gotta do it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Handle bars and saddles.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
See, you're just lucky you don't give me a ticket
book because you know I'd be stroking them out real
fast in here.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Loitering. And that's right, that's right. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
This segment sponsored by Alexander Financial Management. If you have
questions about retirement planning, investment strategies, life insurance, or estate planning,
check out Alexander Financial Management at alex fm dot com. Now, Josh,
you and I are joining in studio with two guests
today are.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Josh? You did notice the two guests with us? Oh?
I said we are okay? Well, and I got the
thumbs up. It sounded like a question.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, I thought you said we are we are You
see those people too?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, he's getting old vision. It's true, It's true.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I truly worry about you sometimes as you should, as
you should our guests joining us today, we've got Steve
Alexander and also we've got Jeff Parkerson. Now I mentioned
Steve because Steve Alexander and Alexander Financial Management. Steve you are,
in fact the founder of Alexander.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Correct, Yes, I am, and I came today, but I
forgot your check. Oh I might didn't go off?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Did it came today? Forgot my check? He just arrived. Well,
I didn't know where supposed to bring checks when we came. Josh,
you forgot to check?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Ready?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Mean ticket? We thought this was all nonprofit. Yeah, anyway,
so I'm moving right along. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So, Steve, you you founded Alexander Financial Management. How long
you've been in business?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I founded this back in nineteen ninety two, a long
time ago, so man, over thirty years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I realized after being an officer that when I worked there,
nobody ever gave me any help unless to sign up
for some deduction from my paycheck. But I had a
lot of guys I worked with start calling me that, hey,
I'm getting close to retirement. I need some advice. And
so it just kind of fell in my lap. And
and I've sure enjoyed it because I get to work
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with a good guys. Instead, it's been in all day
long in the square car talking to the drunks and
all the others that are out there.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So it's been very good. So you so.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You're out there helping first responders retirement planning?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You do retirement planning? What else do you guys do
at Alexander? See's the going to fire me one day?
I don't. I would have to call and have you evicted.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think it possibly, But but but again, you guys,
you do retirement planning for for first responders, right?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And what other what other kind of services do you
offer them? Well, we have a lot of them.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Just call us and have questions about four oh one
K about ira A. Lately it's been about hey, what's
this deal about social security and the wind follow elimination provision?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Does that affect me or not?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Uh? And we're glad to have those conversations. We can
answer a lot of their calls or questions over the phone.
But we don't charge for consultations. We don't charge for appointments.
We together and we talk and if we're a match
and we can help each other, well then we go
forward from there. But there's no it's not like an attorney.
The clock's not ticking when they're talking to us. Okay,
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so that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Free to give you a call, go over it.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I can bring in my checkbook register if anyone has
one of those anymore, and all my bills and say, hey, listen,
I don't I don't know where all my money's going.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You could you can help me out? Yeah? Yeah, it's
like help me out with a budget, help me out
with how to increase wealth? They how to get rich? Yeah,
how to get rich? I'm interested in how to get
rich things. Yeah, that's pretty popular. That's the number one requests,
you know.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
One of the interesting things though. We go into an apartment,
sometimes the squadroom or something, or they'll give us an office,
and then during the day let the guys come in
and talk to us. And some of them come in
and talk to us about, Hey, I'm going to retire
in two years and what I'm thinking with some of
them clothes that come in and close the door and say, hey,
with what's going on? Inflation prices going up and I'm
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just struggling to pay the bills. I don't think about retiring.
I don't guess I'll ever get to retire, so, uh,
we get to help those people too. People need the help.
It's hard to dig out these days.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
No, a good good deal, So that's important if you're
in need of you know, consultation, financial consultation, some advice
out there. Then to get the guys over Alexander Financial
Management a call. You check them out on their websites.
Alex FM dot com Again, alex fm dot com. On
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your website, you have a little table over there just
for first responders.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
We do to click off.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
So no, wait, are you only in Texas? We already
travel out of Texas, but we can work nationwide. We
have clients outside this state. We don't drive to see
him real often, but we got him out there. Yeah,
we're glad to help for guys and ladies listening to
this and other areas.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Give us a call. Good deal, good deal. That's awesome. Now, Jeff,
what do you do now?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I'm in real estate, real estate, and that's how you
know this Josh Jackson guy over here on my other side.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
No, no, no, I actually know him because we work
together at the colony.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And you've kept him around. I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
He talked me into my license. So yeah, so I yeah,
we worked together. I think he started two thousand and three,
So two thousand and three, two thousand and five in
the colony. And then then I went into real estate
in twenty twelve. So I became a broker in twenty sixteen,
and I created lead the Way Home Savings program and
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so we get back to those who serve and so
Josh when I created that, Josh wanted to meet with
me about that, but he didn't want to be a realtor.
I was like, I don't know a way you can
work with me and not be a realtor.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And uh so it took me.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
I don't know, it took about four or five more
years before you got your license.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And so I think you've been with me five years. Yeah, yeah,
this may will be five years wow flies yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
So I got my license in two years and so
I was reeleder in cop.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So okay, now, Jeff, help me out on this because
I'm looking at your example here. You worked with him
in law enforcement, then you went into real estate. He
retires from law enforcement. Now he's in real estate. Not
only is he still following you, he followed you in professions.
Did Yeah, how hard is it going to be for
me to shake him.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That's it's almost impossible. So you could try it, you
know what I mean. I mean there's always at you
always try so well, while we're talking about Roalle State and.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Then and then he came on my radio show with
me too, that's true.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Now why while we are talking about real estate, Josh,
go ahead plug yourself?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Oh well, hi, no, I mean Jeff and I worked
for the same it's an Aria Realty. And you know,
the reason I jumped on board with Jeff was the
twenty five percent back to first responders, military, medical ministry,
and educators.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So it's a pretty awesome deal. Awesome And when he
started his beard was actually almost black, it was it
was that was just for the just put in the
and then my kids harassed me. So okay, so.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, since we plugged everything, if someone is in the
market for a new home, guys, who do they need
to reach out to?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Are they one of us?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
So So if if you served, you go to lead
the Way Homes dot com. Lead the Way Homes dot com.
But Josh, Josh has his website and I have mine.
I'm Jeff Parkerson dot com and.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Josh Sales North Texas dot com Josh Sales, North Texas.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Heck, yeah, he's that S E L L S or
s S E L L S. Yeah, that's a I L.
But but Steve, to be fair, you didn't plug my
paddle business because you sleep that one in the last time.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Battlesy dot com battle Isy dot Com now nationwide, now nationwide,
twelve locations, thirteen thirty.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
Sorry, didn't mean to make you look bad. It's okay, Steve,
It'll be fifteen next time. That's right, that's true. I'm
gonna have to take the light switch away from you are.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I'm gonna be fired from this spot now.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Jeff, you you know again. You brought several stories with
you today. You got some some pranks that you've played
on fellow officers over there yours.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I had to have fun somehow. Absolutely. Wait.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I've always said, you know, if you're not if you're
not having fun, it's just work. Nobody wants to just work,
so have fun while you're doing it. We'll tell us
about some of these pranks.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Well, and one I didn't tell you about. We had
a good time with with stink bombs. We uh we
would do a shift exchange and and uh, this one
guy always wanted to get the guy to take his car,
and so he'd take one of my stink bombs and
bust it in a cup and put a tissue in
it and so it really soaked in really well, put
it under the seat, and so the guy would get
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in the car and he's just going and getting spray
and spray in the car. He doesn't know what the
guy did. But yeah, I used to have I still
have boxes and boxes of stink bombs at the house.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
But a collection of stink stink bombs left over from
your law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You're no, they're not left over, They're they're new.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
When's the last time you felt the need to deploy
one of these?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
I was thinking about this week. Yeah, my daughter loves
when I do that too. It's always funny getting somebody
I have, I have the far spray, I have all
of it.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So but Josh pat him down.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
But uh, you know, one day this is this is
back when the colin was small, we had I don't
even know what it looks like by the police department now,
but back then we had this huge field next to
the police apartment and they had just mowed. There's all
this dead grass out there, and I'm in I'm in
the police department. One day we had this big, massive
roll of paper. I don't know what what is for,
but I get this idea, I'm gonna go roll this
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massive joint. And one of our dispatchers, she's a smoker,
and so she had a lighter, and so I go
roll this massive joint and I burned the tip of it.
And we all had keys to each other's cars. So
I went to the narcotics officer's house and I put
it on his front seat, and in the morning, his
neighbors could even see it when they came out, and
so they they were calling us like, hey, you got
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a massive joint in your front seat.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So now now describe this thing to rself. He's obviously
you you got some of this freshly mood? Was it
hay or grass?
Speaker 10 (35:04):
It was?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
It was hey, you know? So, and you wrapped it
with was it like butcher paper or something or construction?
It was just white paper and it was just a
roll of white massive roll of white paper. So it
was about probably about three feet when I did this. So,
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h three foot long fake joint? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
So and uh, And then one time Uh, we had
a magnet on the lieutenants desks and community patrol and
uh so one of our officers was getting his graphics redone.
He had an old car, so he's like our community
resource officer or whatever he was.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
But they were taking an old grass off. So he
had a white plane car.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
So I just went by his house and I put
the community patrol on his car, and so we went
to the range the next day. We used Collin County
Community College back then, so we had we were using
uh we're doing a tactic where you're shooting from the car,
and so they had the car with the community patrol
decal on it shoot from uh and our lieutenant goes
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running from the cars.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Like community patrol. But yeah, we had to have fun.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Somehow it gets too serious and uh so you'll lose
your mind if you don't have fun somehow.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, I mean laughter is good for the soul. Hell. Hell,
that's why we do the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
But yeah, they share some of these funny stories that
are out there because, let's face it, we anyone who
is doing a job or has done the job, you've
seen the bad stuff. You've seen negative stuff, you've been
in those critical incidents, sometimes we lose the positives from
it and we focus on the negatives. The whole point
and our offbeat show is to talk about those those
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funny moments and to really highlight those versus thinking about
all the negatives. I mean, hell, hell, I was a
fatality vehicle accident investigator for a long time and did
crime scene as well and stuff. So I've seen my
share of Ye, I've seen my share of negative So
I choose to focus on the funny stuff absolutely, and pranks.
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Pranks are one of the greatest ways to do that.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
Yeah, the steak bombs, if I'm glad you can laugh,
Steve josh U Jacket with the lights man with with
the steam bombs.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
If I saw two cars door to door, you know,
you know, late at night, they're they're just sitting there
chilling talking, I'd drive by them, throw one right up
under the car.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You see them disperse real quick.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Okay, that's kind of wrong on that because it gets
sucked up right in their air.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Uh. Good times drive by stink bombing.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Well, you know, we had a police funeral we went
to in uh the Uh. It was a Grand Prairie
officer and I lived in Arlington at the time, and
all the guys from the colony were gonna come by
my house to pick me up and take me my
oldest daughter. She's now twenty seven, but uh, I think
she was out four or five back then she comes
running out when they come to the front door. She
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comes running up with a fake dog turned in her hand,
and she's like, look what I got, And the guys
are like, yep, she's your daughter.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
He can I assume that they were wearing their Class
A uniforms and all that and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
And then yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Had our we had our own honor guard, and we
were all dressed up.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's a proud daddy moment when your child goes running
up to your coworkers all dressed in class as with
a fake.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Yeah I had a I had A had an electronic
whoopee cushion to you. And we're at we're at an
in service class. We're at an inn service class. So
I got I'm sitting next to this Arlington officer. There's
some uless bedford Hurst folks up front, so I've come
in by behind the arlingtower. She's down in her seat,
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so there's room behind her behind her back of the
seat and I just put it behind her back and
then it's on a ninety second delay. So it goes
off and the guy her partner looks at her and
gives her weird looking.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
She's like, sounded like it was me, and I think
it was me, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
The guy from hearst said, Hey, my partner's were late,
let's put it under his seat. So he was about
to walk into the building, so we put it under
his seat. He walks in and uh, it goes off
as he sat down, and everybody just started laughing.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
He's like, that wasn't me. If it was me, I
would have lifted my leg like this, and he lifted
his leg and it went off again. Yeah. Sometimes it's
a simple things in life, it really is. I mean,
you know, in our job, there was always snakes too.
Those those make good pranks absolutely. Yeah, yeah, good snake,
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whether whether it be a fake snake or real. I
thought you were talking about people. There's a couple of those. Yeah,
we're gonna deflect. Yeah one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Now, Steve, you you mentioned robbery suspect once that that
you guys as had gone after and it may or
may not have been the correct suspect.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, this story will make you laugh. Well, let's see,
one of our seven elevenths got robbed in the middle
of the night. I was in c ID, so I
caught the case the next day and went out and
interviewed the clerk and next morning and talked to him
and got the information that he had, which wasn't very much.
There's no video, so I held on the case, kind
of checked around and had not had anybody with that
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suspect's description in any of the surrounding areas. So about
two weeks later, the guy calls me. I'm in at
my office and he said, hey, I think the robber
came back in just now.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
It looked like he said.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
He had a cat phone and sunglasses, he said, but
I didn't get his license numbers. I said great, so
I ran the license number. It came back to a
lady who lived somewhere up northern Suburbs and I called
her and I said, do you own.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Such and such a thing? Was quite a few?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
She said yeah, And I said you know where your
care She said yeah. I lungaged to my son and
I said where is your son? And she said he
lives in the skeep I said okay, and I said,
what's his name? She gave me his name, and I
chatted with him in it, and I said, oh, by
the way, what's his date of birth? So she gave
it to me, got off the phone, I ran it,
got his driver's license picture, put a photo line up together.
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I got with my guy. That was the clerk. He goes, Yep,
that's him. That's him right there. That's good detective work
right now, that's solid. Yeah, we were on the ball.
So he signs the back uh and we uh. And
the mother also she didn't know it's added to address,
but she knew where he lived. The apartment kind of
described it. So we went to the apartment house. There's
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the car, go to the office, tell him who we are.
We just need to talk to this guy. We got
to this door, knock him the door, and he comes
to the door, just calm, and we told him there'd
been a robbery and also I had found out after
that we ran him and he'd been handled for him.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Oh man, this is a cake walk.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yeah, And we didn't have warm We just said when
you get to come down station.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
He did.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
He was very agreeable, very nice.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
He said, hey, I didn't do that. Uh.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Anyway, we locked him up and the next morning I
came in early in the night shift. Guys were getting
off and one of them said, hey, we caught your
own robber last night.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I thought they're kidding me. No, we caught your arm robber.
He's back there in the jail.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
So I go back there and it's the guy and
he looks like not the twin brothers, but he looks
very close to the guy we'd arrested the day before.
So uh, anyway, the story got robbed. That night there
was a squad nearby. Carl came out. They had a
car description that time, and the squad met the car,
turned around, got him, chased him.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
He crashed out, had the good guy.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
So uh, it went up to chain of commander back
down and we went back and apologized the guy and
gave a ride home. Looking back, but sure could have
gone south.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh my bad. You didn't kick in the door of
a wrong house.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
And we were very nice, treated him very nicely. I
just seemed too easy, you know, when they come together
like that, you think it couldn't.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I don't they all work that way. But anyway, Jeff,
did you have do you have a story about kicking
indoor house. I just remember watching cops years ago and
they kicked.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
In the door of the house that was burning, but
it was actually the house in front of the house
that was burning.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, that's what that could go wrong. That's want to
check out. I believe that was Fort Worth PD. Yeah,
it was years ago. Yeah, it looked like the house
was on fire. The guy goes up to the front door.
He's beating on the door. Nobody's answering, and he gets
his aspoiton out and he starts breaking. Lady comes to
the comes to the door, you need to come out.
Your house on fire, and he's getting her out. They
calling the radio and sat it's the house behind this one. Yeah,
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don't do that, guys.
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Speaker 1 (45:14):
And we're back back to more offbeat, the light side
of law enforcement. We're joined with two guests in the
studio today. We've got Steve Alexander and we've got Jeff Parkerson.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
So it's been pleasure having you guys in the studio today.
Thanks for having you. And of course we have Josh
in here also. Josh, it's go abs. Josh, it's not
a pleasure. I thought he was saying Abs earlier.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Oh I do like to work out, but no as
Avalanche Sorry go Avalanche beat the stars.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Wow? Wow, Oh so it's a hockey Yeah, okay, we
learned something new about Josh all the time? You know
my do love the abs? Do you love the apps?
Speaker 4 (46:02):
All of it?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I'm working okay? Do you want to mention? Guys?
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Speaker 2 (47:04):
Steve, could you show us what a thumbs up looks like.
Thank you, good illustration. Yeah, it's going to be wrapped up,
maybe one one more week. I'm glad I was here
for this week. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I might have the bandage on it for one more week,
and you know, by next week I should be able
to hitchhike both directions.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Is that advantage? And is that like an ace bandage
on that? Nah, it's it's the color of an ace bandage.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
But it's a stuff itself self, I don't know, adhesy
to itself whatever.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Somef it hears. The best was the description you gave
to it last week.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
And and uh, would you say it was like a
condom tourniquet for your thumb?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
No, it was. It looked like a condom for a pencil.
That's what That's what it was. Okay, looked like a
condom for a pencil.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, seriously, I mean about the size of a condom,
teeny tiny little hole in the middle of it.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
And it's not very effective condom. Sorry, sorry, family appropriate,
although I guess I could be family appropriate.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
It will be. That was your Yeah, yeah, this may
be my last show. Is enjoyable. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Thank you, Josh for the public service announcement. Yes, y'all
stay safe out there. Okay, Jeff, you you had mentioned
a canine story that you have and I share that
with us.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
So, yeah, we had h this awesome canine, did we? Uh?
I don't.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
I don't know how we we got it, but I
know that it belonged to a certain supervisor.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
And so it was his personal doc.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
I guess it was given to him in that way,
and and we use it as a canine. And okay,
so then you know, in this we ended up losing
it because there was a divorce and the other ah,
he's half not purchased by the city, right, and the
other half was an officer as well, and she got
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the dog and the divorce. But the dog he had,
he had a weird thing about him. So he had
a he had a blanket he really liked, and so
like really liked, really liked, and and.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
So you found the blanket attractive. So what what some
of these guys would do is if there was a
mouthy person in the back that they've arrested, they would
throw the blanket on him and the dog would just
start humping away and and just have his way with him.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
So and then the the prisoner would be screaming get
him off me.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Trying to figure out what's up with level of force
that is. I think that's contact. Yeah, I think it
might be it's in contact with them. Yeah, yeah, it
sounds reasonable. So did the dog get to keep his
blanket in the divorce?
Speaker 5 (50:16):
You know, I don't know, but I'm sure the ex
wife probably got rid of the blanket.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
So so I'm just picturing some sort of country song
canine humping button blanket.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
I think that's all. I think that.
Speaker 5 (50:33):
I think that's falled in the old days. Things you
could get away with in the old days.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I've lost it all. Now I have a blanket over
my head and a dog humping it.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
You had somebody on the show that writes country songs, right, Yes,
As a matter of fact, I'll seehim this weekend. There
you go. Time time to write the song.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
I was drunk to day my mom and get out
of person. All right, that's what we got for today's
show again, Steve and Jeff, thanks for coming on, Thanks
for having us, Thanks for having us pleasure of having
you guys here.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Josh, it is what it is, It is, It is
what it is.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Josh, it is what it is having you here. Well,
you know, you know I've got nothing. I got nothing. Yeah,
all right, it's catching on, all right, guys.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Until next time, keep it real, keep it funny, stay
safe and watch each other six
Welcome, Welcome to off Beat the Light Side of Law Enforcement,
part of the Treehouse Podcast Network, and you're a host,
Steve Rutherford.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Gosh, you killed the lights well, you know you're doing
your introduction. I felt like you didn't need it. You're
no longer on the spotlight. I mean, I can't get
you a thumbs up. I don't know what else you want. Yes,
a thumbs up. I know what that was. It is
a thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's still going back to last week's show where I
told the story of why I've got my thumb wrapped up.
Be careful if you're using knives to cut anything out there. Again,
I'm your host, Steve Rutherford Today, You're welcome Steve, so
much fun with the light bar. And we welcome Josh
(01:18):
Jackson Mack his co host today. And Josh loves a
little button he's got over here. Let's switch. I'm here
for Steve's therapy, so I really don't have an argument
for that one, Josh. Nothing comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's a great day here in the studio. We're joined
by two guests. We've got Steve Alexander joining us and
and we've got Jeff Parkerson. Hello, So thank you gentlemen
for being here. It's it could be a complicated show
with Josh over here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Whose turn is it to watch this guy? Guaranteed? I
would not expect anything less from you. Josh. Well, normally
you have Karen here to keep me in check, but
I'm free reigning today just as long as you don't
have sound buttons over there for him.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I mean, I come equip my own. I got them
outch at g GP.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know, Jeff, until you brought that up, I hadn't
even thought about that. But now, yeah, you might have
to consider that the future. So just didn't reach over
and hit eating buttons or anything on the console.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I do have long arms. Yeah you did, you did?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
And Josh Waite where we're on the topic of Josh
Jackson here, Sure man, I saw that your your daughter's
car got taken.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I sure did, I sure did.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, she's in college down a corpus and uh she
is the victim of the Kia Hyundai TikTok challenge.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Thank you very much. TikTok.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So it is uh in the wind of a week
and a half now, no no word, no word, not
not not one. So uh yeah, that's fun stuff. The
full college experience, So maybe I should say the full
Corpus Christie experience.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Either one works, I think. Well, our friend Mark down there,
he hasn't found it for her.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
He did ask what she was driving, and I told
her it was a twenty nineteen Key Optima Black, and
he goes, there's a few of those around here, so.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's gonna be hard to find that. So it is
what it is. Well, and how she doing? I mean,
that's that's draumatic cabin here car.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So so here's the funny part. So, as a good cop,
right asked her to make a list of all the
stolen items. And her very first thing on the list,
you know what we would have want is like in
decreasing value. Right, The very first thing on her list
is a little croucheted honeybee that she had stuff between
the rearview mirror and the roof. And she said, that's
(03:49):
the most important thing. I said, it was handmade. She goes,
I know, it's it's priceless, it's sentimental. Make sure she
doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Make sure she tells the.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Company is one of a kind. It's a one of
a kind so cannot be replaced. So yeah, so she uh,
you know, like college kid. She used that as storage
on her trunk. So because the dorm is on so big,
so a long list of stolen items.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
So but I hate to hear that. You know, we
we all have a passion for thieves, right, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I had many people tell me that they would much
rather arrest a burglar or theft suspect.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Than a doper. And no, granted, sometimes and many times
les go hand in hand.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well that was kind of our policy in our old
police department, wasn't it, Josh, I think so burglars burglars.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, I don't worry aboutd W I s yep.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't know if I go that far they did,
but definitely it was always fun to always fun to
catch a burglar.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
In fact, my first fleet accident was because I was
trying to catch a burglar. I was in a Chevy
and Paula in the colony and blacked out behind big
Lots and there was a curve that jetted out about
fifteen feet and the front radiator hit right on that point.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And the night shift.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Lieutenant had a policy that if you caused the wreck,
it was your fault.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You ride with the wrecker the right of shame. So
it's like two three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So wrecker shows up in a single cat pickup with
his giant mast of sitting in the passenger seat.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Nice. He goes, where's your ride? I said, you're it.
He goes, have fun. I sat.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I sat right in the center between the dogs staring
at me and the direcor driver. Yeah, I sat in
the center. The dog wouldn't move so well.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Back then, we also had a polse that you only
had to have your lights on at night on three
different streets. Yeah, because they wanted us looking for burglars.
So that was old days before they had the big
highways going through.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
There and all that. Yeah, the colony didn't. It's not
the same colony. Oh, I've got a good burglar story.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Back when I was in a rookie, we got a
call this special got a call from a guy that
was a manager at the Gibson store. You know, they're
kind of like the predecessor to the big walmarts. Anyway,
the guy says, Hey, I'm the manager. I'm working late.
It's one in the morning, and he said, I heard
a gun shot and I looked outside and there's this
guy breaking out our front plate glass window. So luckily
(06:23):
I was the first one there, and as I drove
up and looked across the park, I saw the burglar
run across inside the front. So we kept the manager
on the phone. He was locked in the office there
and he could see kind of where the guy was
from his cameras, So we left the guy out front,
the rest of us from around the back. The manager said, hey,
here's the combination. You get in the back door. So
(06:46):
luckily that night our sergeant was was a dog handler.
He got in promoted sergeant being a rookie sergeant. He
was a swing sergeant. So he was our sergeant that night.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
But I saw a canine handler.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And a canight handler. Yeah, and I never worked with him,
and he's a grouchy old guy. I've been there thirty
something years. So I'm thinking, man, this is great. I'm
a rookie. I'm going to get to see how the
dog works. I'm gonna see it. You get to see
a dog go in and buy the burglar. So the
sergeant gets his dog out, uh, and he collars at me.
He says it was Camire Hobson, cam here here is
(07:18):
another rookie. H I said, okay, Serge, what are you
gonna do? How are we going to do this? He said,
We're not doing that. I'm not sending my dog in there.
He might shoot him. But you guys go in there. Yeah,
that's kind of the value of a rookie. Anyway, we
went in, we found the burglar. He was hiding behind
some boxes in the storeroom, and we got him out.
(07:40):
But forever and ever we were kidded about the value
of sergeant's dog versus a rookie on our force.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Those dogs aren't cheap to train.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, wait, how much does it cost to try a
dog versus a versus a new office?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know, it's probably I mean the dogs. It depends
on how many disciplines you trained the dog.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Again, sure, I found a good solution for people hiding.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Pepper spray works awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
So if you don't know, like if somebody went running
behind a dumpster or they're hiding behind box or whatever,
just a little square to pepper spray and you hear coughing,
you know where they're at.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Everybody used to cough in that situation. Now, now, Steve,
you you had mentioned when you were an officer. So
you're a former officer. Where did you work?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I worked at Mesquite Okay, Mesquite PD.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Keep PDH seven years, had a great career. It was
a good department, work for good guys. I did that
and then went back and finished college.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And from there that took you on to still the
city Mesquite correct.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, And I volunteerly left the department after seven years.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I was not asked to leave. I went, it's an
important clarification. Yeah, that's what everybody automatically thinks. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I left and went into the private sector and enjoyed that.
But the Police Association called me and said, hey, we
need a guy to run for city council. We want
you to be our guy. Come down and talk to us.
So I went down and talked to him, and they
explained how that all worked, and I agreed, and they
endorsed me and.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Helped finance the campaign.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Anyway, got me elected to the city council, the first
police officer to serve on the former police officer to
serve on the city council.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I think that's a dream of every police officers association,
is to get one of their former guys elected on.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yoursel and then went well. We got a lot of
positive stuff done. I enjoyed working with those guys, obviously,
and it sure cut out a lot of the criticism
from council members and mayors when we got talking about
police issues. Obviously, they're probably the biggest budget in the city. Sure,
one of the things I did talking about that and
(09:55):
talk about traffic and stuff. We had a sergeant in
five guys who worked traffied. We didn't have any motorcyclests.
The city just always their policy not to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Josh, you're not crying over here, are you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You know, it hurts a little, but it's okay. No motors,
That's okay. Those days are gone for me.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
A lot of the guys ride the motor for free.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Anyways, budget time getting ready to place cars, and everybody
there drove those Crown Vicks that everybody used to have.
And you know, I thought, I'm a traffic guy and
I got to chase down speeders and do other stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
There's got to be a better option.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So I talked to the traffic guys, and I talked
to the association, and we got them six brand u
Z twenty eight camaros.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
For the traffic cars nice and they loved it.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
They loved driving them, but they did and they said
they clucked somebody speeding and they'd be rid on his
butt before he knew it. They turned their lights on
and there they were. He said, rarely did everybody, anybody
ever try to run from them. And it was a blast.
It was their take on cars, the head of the neighborhood.
So we got to do some fun stuff like that
and improve I think the quality of what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well that you know, and that's that's greatly appreciated, especially
when you look at elected officials, council members, mayors, stuff
like that. You know, elected officials that support their first responders. Yeah,
that's huge, and that's what it takes.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And we have good mayors.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Had worked for two different mayors, We had good mayors,
We had good council members. Had no desire to be
the mayor. But I like being just that far up
the ladder. Who are you just can get some things done.
But nothing was my fault wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You were just there to pass out Z twenty eight
to officers. That's that was pretty popular. You were like, Oprah,
you get a car, You get a car.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Now, Jeff, you're a former officer as well. Correct, and
you told me earlier that you're also a marine. Yes, right,
and you were in the Marine Corps. So thank you
for your service, sir, thank you. Now, where all did
you work in law enforcement?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
So started out as a reserve officer in Irving and
that was in two thousand and uh. Then in two
thousand and two I went to the Colony, worked there
for a few years. Then I went to Louisville for
a few years, and then I went to la as
an air marshal for.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
A few years.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So you got to work for several different agencies I did. Yeah,
I have to ask this to the Air Marshal. You're
you're the first air marshal we've you know, former air
marshal we've had on the show. What is it like
being an air marshal?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It is, uh, the the training is awesome.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
So I became a really good shooter when I went
to the Air Marshals because we just our training is
top notch. The job kind of becomes boring. So after
being on the streets going to Air Marshals, sitting in
a can every day, I mean, you're dealing with the
you know, delays, you're dealing with airports, delays, all that stuff.
(12:56):
It becomes kind of boring. But you get to go
to all these cool places. I went to eighteen countries
over and over and over and over, so you're never home.
So that so that's a downside of it. But there's
there's great things about it. But you know, it did
kind of get boring.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
So what kind of what kind of things did you
have to react to or respond to? I mean, were
you were you ever called to have to react to
something on the plane? I mean, are you dealing with
intoxicated folks on the plane? Are you just there in
case someone tries to storm the cockpit?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
No, if a if an intoxicated person assaulted a flight attendant,
we would, but that never happened.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So other than that, just called airport PD to come
drag them off the plane if they need.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
To, right, I mean, if if they were just intoxicated,
the flight tance you use it, dealt with it. If
they get assaulted, then you know we we would have
to step in. But other than that, we would blow
our cover. So our mission is to protect that cockpit.
So that's the number one mission.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Sure. So okay, so tell you I got a question,
go for it.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
If you pull your weapons, shoot and fire around and
it goes through the wall of the airplane, something bad happened.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
It could Yeah, all right, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't think that's been tested yet. But uh, what
they told us. What they told us is that the
pilots would drop the do a nosedive, drop the plane
below eighteen thousand and.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
It's not been tested yet. Yeah, let's hope that doesn't
ever have to be tested. Oh and and in the academy,
they gave us like a half day class on all
the gadgets in the cockpit. And I'm like, yeah, I
hope I never have to get up here and do
anything in this cockpit because that's a lot of gadgets.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I've neutralized the threat. And now I'm flying a jumbo jet.
I remember this from the academy. This, but you worked
on your pilot license too.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Oh yeah, it's uh in yeah, the those those planes
are totally different, so that that even wouldn't help me
with all the gadgets button right.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Well, yeah, I was always curious about that, And I mean,
you you gotta you don't want to blow your cover,
so you would we would we know if there's near
Marshall on the plane, I mean, would would we be
able to I mean, that dude's a cop right, You're
getting on before we get called out.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
We got called out occasionally, so I had, uh, I
have people called me out. So I had Randy Jackson
from American IUTO called me out.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So he uh.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
He talked to me the whole five hours from New
Jersey to l A And as we're coming in to
lant He's like, is that your partner in front of us?
And I was like, I mean, we're landing, We're done.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I was like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
So the Oscar the Oscars were the next day. So
my partner was the only other one not famous in
first class. So my partners sitting next to Meryl Street
sell my hikes. There a girl from Titanic, her husband
and kidd over there.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So yeah, we stood out, but.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You could He just said, no, I think that's her
security detail or something.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, could have.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Do the pilots know when you guys are on the plane.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yes, yeah, so, and it's it's done differently whether it's
in the United States or overseas, but you know, in
the in the US, they're just we're just on the
manifest and the uh, the gay agents know who we
are based on the booking agent. So and then we
just walk up and show our IDs and so they
(16:35):
know where we're.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
At booking agent f A, a Federal Air marshal or
now we have fake fake companies.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Got got to maintain that cover.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Uh, Jeff, you you wrote a lot of stories with
you today, and you know, and this is your time back,
you know, going back to the streets when you're when
you're on I would.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Assume working patrol. Since yes, since you're back in the States.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You mentioned someone involved in a fleet accident and.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
The the excuse they gave.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So, so, Jeff, what is the best excuse you've ever
heard an officer give for the a fleet vehicle accident?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I saw UFO. So yeah, and it was like a
holiday too. It was either like New Year's Eve or
Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But it couldn't wait wait wait, so it could have
been slid, could have been could have been Christmas.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Could have been that is a UFO.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
It's unidentified, sure, but yeah, so uh so yeah he
and it wasn't even really an accident. It's just pop
the tar hit a curb popped a tar we have
to do actually report on that. Calls the uh, you know,
the traffic division comes out and he said what what happened?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
He's like, I swear I saw UFO and UH and
what agency were working at the time I was at Lewisville.
Did you guys require psychological testing for being hired on? Yes? Okay,
I just wanted to like, I'm not sure if we
did at the colony though, but yes, how many uf
(18:11):
you UFOs have you ever seen? Okay?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I didn't mean to interrupt, but oh well, so yeah,
he tells traffic guys, I swear I saw UFO. So
the funniest thing is, we have this graph that you
draw the accident scene in the diagram, and yeah, and
he puts UFO in the drawing the traffic guy and
then then he turns around and writes the officer ticket
(18:36):
because that was our policy. Totally screwing with him though,
But the traffic officer right in the ticket had a
ticket book of another officer, so he doesn't have to
deal with it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So the other traffic.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Officer now has to go and do a memo of
why he's not submitting this traffic ticket.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But it was all to screw with this guy. So
that is the ultimate prank right there. Yeah, I mean,
the guy's nervous. Am I in trouble is this?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
And he's he's he's still pretty much a rookie at
the time too, so he doesn't know how, you know,
he's he's probably thinking that these guys are really serious,
so he doesn't know these guys too well.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And so yeah, and really, since.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
He is a rookie and he's going to be asking
everybody for advice, Hey man, am I really in trouble
for this?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You've really got to get.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
The whole department. Oh it's yeah, absolutely, at least your
entire shift. So that way when he goes and ask
for advice, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
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Speaker 8 (22:20):
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Speaker 4 (22:48):
Welcome Stephen.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Gosh uff us, Lord Son, and we're back back to
more offbeat the light side of law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I'm your host, Steve Brutherford, and your co host for
today is none other than Josh Jackson. Out of y'all
go ass go who avalanche? Avalanche? Heck? Yeah, what sport
is that? Golf? Yeah? Josh.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Josh has this thing in the studio. If you're not
watched on YouTube, first off, you should be. But if
you're not watching on YouTube, We've got a squad car
light bar that hangs up and Josh has a switch
that we normally run the lights coming into the beginning
of the show, but Josh just likes to periodically hit
the lights and throw them on. So yep, there's lights.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
You know, Steve would really helped if you gave me
like a motorcycle seat, you know, like one of those
like in a bar, right the saddle, you know, and
I could have handlebars and I could host like that
co host co host hosty.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Ho hosts.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
After twenty years of seeing the red and blues, he's
gotta gotta do it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Handle bars and saddles.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
See, you're just lucky you don't give me a ticket
book because you know I'd be stroking them out real
fast in here.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Loitering. And that's right, that's right. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
This segment sponsored by Alexander Financial Management. If you have
questions about retirement planning, investment strategies, life insurance, or estate planning,
check out Alexander Financial Management at alex fm dot com. Now, Josh,
you and I are joining in studio with two guests
today are.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Josh? You did notice the two guests with us? Oh?
I said we are okay? Well, and I got the
thumbs up. It sounded like a question.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, I thought you said we are we are You
see those people too?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, he's getting old vision. It's true, It's true.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I truly worry about you sometimes as you should, as
you should our guests joining us today, we've got Steve
Alexander and also we've got Jeff Parkerson. Now I mentioned
Steve because Steve Alexander and Alexander Financial Management. Steve you are,
in fact the founder of Alexander.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Correct, Yes, I am, and I came today, but I
forgot your check. Oh I might didn't go off?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Did it came today? Forgot my check? He just arrived. Well,
I didn't know where supposed to bring checks when we came. Josh,
you forgot to check?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Ready?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Mean ticket? We thought this was all nonprofit. Yeah, anyway,
so I'm moving right along. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So, Steve, you you founded Alexander Financial Management. How long
you've been in business?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I founded this back in nineteen ninety two, a long
time ago, so man, over thirty years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I realized after being an officer that when I worked there,
nobody ever gave me any help unless to sign up
for some deduction from my paycheck. But I had a
lot of guys I worked with start calling me that, hey,
I'm getting close to retirement. I need some advice. And
so it just kind of fell in my lap. And
and I've sure enjoyed it because I get to work
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with a good guys. Instead, it's been in all day
long in the square car talking to the drunks and
all the others that are out there.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So it's been very good. So you so.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You're out there helping first responders retirement planning?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You do retirement planning? What else do you guys do
at Alexander? See's the going to fire me one day?
I don't. I would have to call and have you evicted.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think it possibly, But but but again, you guys,
you do retirement planning for for first responders, right?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And what other what other kind of services do you
offer them? Well, we have a lot of them.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Just call us and have questions about four oh one
K about ira A. Lately it's been about hey, what's
this deal about social security and the wind follow elimination provision?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Does that affect me or not?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Uh? And we're glad to have those conversations. We can
answer a lot of their calls or questions over the phone.
But we don't charge for consultations. We don't charge for appointments.
We together and we talk and if we're a match
and we can help each other, well then we go
forward from there. But there's no it's not like an attorney.
The clock's not ticking when they're talking to us. Okay,
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so that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Free to give you a call, go over it.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I can bring in my checkbook register if anyone has
one of those anymore, and all my bills and say, hey, listen,
I don't I don't know where all my money's going.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You could you can help me out? Yeah? Yeah, it's
like help me out with a budget, help me out
with how to increase wealth? They how to get rich? Yeah,
how to get rich? I'm interested in how to get
rich things. Yeah, that's pretty popular. That's the number one requests,
you know.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
One of the interesting things though. We go into an apartment,
sometimes the squadroom or something, or they'll give us an office,
and then during the day let the guys come in
and talk to us. And some of them come in
and talk to us about, Hey, I'm going to retire
in two years and what I'm thinking with some of
them clothes that come in and close the door and say, hey,
with what's going on? Inflation prices going up and I'm
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just struggling to pay the bills. I don't think about retiring.
I don't guess I'll ever get to retire, so, uh,
we get to help those people too. People need the help.
It's hard to dig out these days.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
No, a good good deal, So that's important if you're
in need of you know, consultation, financial consultation, some advice
out there. Then to get the guys over Alexander Financial
Management a call. You check them out on their websites.
Alex FM dot com Again, alex fm dot com. On
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your website, you have a little table over there just
for first responders.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
We do to click off.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
So no, wait, are you only in Texas? We already
travel out of Texas, but we can work nationwide. We
have clients outside this state. We don't drive to see
him real often, but we got him out there. Yeah,
we're glad to help for guys and ladies listening to
this and other areas.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Give us a call. Good deal, good deal. That's awesome. Now, Jeff,
what do you do now?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I'm in real estate, real estate, and that's how you
know this Josh Jackson guy over here on my other side.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
No, no, no, I actually know him because we work
together at the colony.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And you've kept him around. I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
He talked me into my license. So yeah, so I yeah,
we worked together. I think he started two thousand and three,
So two thousand and three, two thousand and five in
the colony. And then then I went into real estate
in twenty twelve. So I became a broker in twenty sixteen,
and I created lead the Way Home Savings program and
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so we get back to those who serve and so
Josh when I created that, Josh wanted to meet with
me about that, but he didn't want to be a realtor.
I was like, I don't know a way you can
work with me and not be a realtor.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And uh so it took me.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
I don't know, it took about four or five more
years before you got your license.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And so I think you've been with me five years. Yeah, yeah,
this may will be five years wow flies yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
So I got my license in two years and so
I was reeleder in cop.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So okay, now, Jeff, help me out on this because
I'm looking at your example here. You worked with him
in law enforcement, then you went into real estate. He
retires from law enforcement. Now he's in real estate. Not
only is he still following you, he followed you in professions.
Did Yeah, how hard is it going to be for
me to shake him.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That's it's almost impossible. So you could try it, you
know what I mean. I mean there's always at you
always try so well, while we're talking about Roalle State and.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Then and then he came on my radio show with
me too, that's true.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Now why while we are talking about real estate, Josh,
go ahead plug yourself?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Oh well, hi, no, I mean Jeff and I worked
for the same it's an Aria Realty. And you know,
the reason I jumped on board with Jeff was the
twenty five percent back to first responders, military, medical ministry,
and educators.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So it's a pretty awesome deal. Awesome And when he
started his beard was actually almost black, it was it
was that was just for the just put in the
and then my kids harassed me. So okay, so.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, since we plugged everything, if someone is in the
market for a new home, guys, who do they need
to reach out to?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Are they one of us?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
So So if if you served, you go to lead
the Way Homes dot com. Lead the Way Homes dot com.
But Josh, Josh has his website and I have mine.
I'm Jeff Parkerson dot com and.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Josh Sales North Texas dot com Josh Sales, North Texas.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Heck, yeah, he's that S E L L S or
s S E L L S. Yeah, that's a I L.
But but Steve, to be fair, you didn't plug my
paddle business because you sleep that one in the last time.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Battlesy dot com battle Isy dot Com now nationwide, now nationwide,
twelve locations, thirteen thirty.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
Sorry, didn't mean to make you look bad. It's okay, Steve,
It'll be fifteen next time. That's right, that's true. I'm
gonna have to take the light switch away from you are.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I'm gonna be fired from this spot now.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Jeff, you you know again. You brought several stories with
you today. You got some some pranks that you've played
on fellow officers over there yours.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I had to have fun somehow. Absolutely. Wait.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I've always said, you know, if you're not if you're
not having fun, it's just work. Nobody wants to just work,
so have fun while you're doing it. We'll tell us
about some of these pranks.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Well, and one I didn't tell you about. We had
a good time with with stink bombs. We uh we
would do a shift exchange and and uh, this one
guy always wanted to get the guy to take his car,
and so he'd take one of my stink bombs and
bust it in a cup and put a tissue in
it and so it really soaked in really well, put
it under the seat, and so the guy would get
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in the car and he's just going and getting spray
and spray in the car. He doesn't know what the
guy did. But yeah, I used to have I still
have boxes and boxes of stink bombs at the house.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
But a collection of stink stink bombs left over from
your law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You're no, they're not left over, They're they're new.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
When's the last time you felt the need to deploy
one of these?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
I was thinking about this week. Yeah, my daughter loves
when I do that too. It's always funny getting somebody
I have, I have the far spray, I have all
of it.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So but Josh pat him down.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
But uh, you know, one day this is this is
back when the colin was small, we had I don't
even know what it looks like by the police department now,
but back then we had this huge field next to
the police apartment and they had just mowed. There's all
this dead grass out there, and I'm in I'm in
the police department. One day we had this big, massive
roll of paper. I don't know what what is for,
but I get this idea, I'm gonna go roll this
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massive joint. And one of our dispatchers, she's a smoker,
and so she had a lighter, and so I go
roll this massive joint and I burned the tip of it.
And we all had keys to each other's cars. So
I went to the narcotics officer's house and I put
it on his front seat, and in the morning, his
neighbors could even see it when they came out, and
so they they were calling us like, hey, you got
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a massive joint in your front seat.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So now now describe this thing to rself. He's obviously
you you got some of this freshly mood? Was it
hay or grass?
Speaker 10 (35:04):
It was?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
It was hey, you know? So, and you wrapped it
with was it like butcher paper or something or construction?
It was just white paper and it was just a
roll of white massive roll of white paper. So it
was about probably about three feet when I did this. So,
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h three foot long fake joint? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
So and uh, And then one time Uh, we had
a magnet on the lieutenants desks and community patrol and
uh so one of our officers was getting his graphics redone.
He had an old car, so he's like our community
resource officer or whatever he was.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
But they were taking an old grass off. So he
had a white plane car.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
So I just went by his house and I put
the community patrol on his car, and so we went
to the range the next day. We used Collin County
Community College back then, so we had we were using
uh we're doing a tactic where you're shooting from the car,
and so they had the car with the community patrol
decal on it shoot from uh and our lieutenant goes
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running from the cars.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Like community patrol. But yeah, we had to have fun.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Somehow it gets too serious and uh so you'll lose
your mind if you don't have fun somehow.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, I mean laughter is good for the soul. Hell. Hell,
that's why we do the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
But yeah, they share some of these funny stories that
are out there because, let's face it, we anyone who
is doing a job or has done the job, you've
seen the bad stuff. You've seen negative stuff, you've been
in those critical incidents, sometimes we lose the positives from
it and we focus on the negatives. The whole point
and our offbeat show is to talk about those those
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funny moments and to really highlight those versus thinking about
all the negatives. I mean, hell, hell, I was a
fatality vehicle accident investigator for a long time and did
crime scene as well and stuff. So I've seen my
share of Ye, I've seen my share of negative So
I choose to focus on the funny stuff absolutely, and pranks.
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Pranks are one of the greatest ways to do that.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
Yeah, the steak bombs, if I'm glad you can laugh,
Steve josh U Jacket with the lights man with with
the steam bombs.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
If I saw two cars door to door, you know,
you know, late at night, they're they're just sitting there
chilling talking, I'd drive by them, throw one right up
under the car.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You see them disperse real quick.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Okay, that's kind of wrong on that because it gets
sucked up right in their air.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Uh. Good times drive by stink bombing.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Well, you know, we had a police funeral we went
to in uh the Uh. It was a Grand Prairie
officer and I lived in Arlington at the time, and
all the guys from the colony were gonna come by
my house to pick me up and take me my
oldest daughter. She's now twenty seven, but uh, I think
she was out four or five back then she comes
running out when they come to the front door. She
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comes running up with a fake dog turned in her hand,
and she's like, look what I got, And the guys
are like, yep, she's your daughter.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
He can I assume that they were wearing their Class
A uniforms and all that and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
And then yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Had our we had our own honor guard, and we
were all dressed up.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's a proud daddy moment when your child goes running
up to your coworkers all dressed in class as with
a fake.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Yeah I had a I had A had an electronic
whoopee cushion to you. And we're at we're at an
in service class. We're at an inn service class. So
I got I'm sitting next to this Arlington officer. There's
some uless bedford Hurst folks up front, so I've come
in by behind the arlingtower. She's down in her seat,
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so there's room behind her behind her back of the
seat and I just put it behind her back and
then it's on a ninety second delay. So it goes
off and the guy her partner looks at her and
gives her weird looking.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
She's like, sounded like it was me, and I think
it was me, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
The guy from hearst said, Hey, my partner's were late,
let's put it under his seat. So he was about
to walk into the building, so we put it under
his seat. He walks in and uh, it goes off
as he sat down, and everybody just started laughing.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
He's like, that wasn't me. If it was me, I
would have lifted my leg like this, and he lifted
his leg and it went off again. Yeah. Sometimes it's
a simple things in life, it really is. I mean,
you know, in our job, there was always snakes too.
Those those make good pranks absolutely. Yeah, yeah, good snake,
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whether whether it be a fake snake or real. I
thought you were talking about people. There's a couple of those. Yeah,
we're gonna deflect. Yeah one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Now, Steve, you you mentioned robbery suspect once that that
you guys as had gone after and it may or
may not have been the correct suspect.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, this story will make you laugh. Well, let's see,
one of our seven elevenths got robbed in the middle
of the night. I was in c ID, so I
caught the case the next day and went out and
interviewed the clerk and next morning and talked to him
and got the information that he had, which wasn't very much.
There's no video, so I held on the case, kind
of checked around and had not had anybody with that
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suspect's description in any of the surrounding areas. So about
two weeks later, the guy calls me. I'm in at
my office and he said, hey, I think the robber
came back in just now.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
It looked like he said.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
He had a cat phone and sunglasses, he said, but
I didn't get his license numbers. I said great, so
I ran the license number. It came back to a
lady who lived somewhere up northern Suburbs and I called
her and I said, do you own.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Such and such a thing? Was quite a few?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
She said yeah, And I said you know where your
care She said yeah. I lungaged to my son and
I said where is your son? And she said he
lives in the skeep I said okay, and I said,
what's his name? She gave me his name, and I
chatted with him in it, and I said, oh, by
the way, what's his date of birth? So she gave
it to me, got off the phone, I ran it,
got his driver's license picture, put a photo line up together.
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I got with my guy. That was the clerk. He goes, Yep,
that's him. That's him right there. That's good detective work
right now, that's solid. Yeah, we were on the ball.
So he signs the back uh and we uh. And
the mother also she didn't know it's added to address,
but she knew where he lived. The apartment kind of
described it. So we went to the apartment house. There's
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the car, go to the office, tell him who we are.
We just need to talk to this guy. We got
to this door, knock him the door, and he comes
to the door, just calm, and we told him there'd
been a robbery and also I had found out after
that we ran him and he'd been handled for him.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Oh man, this is a cake walk.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yeah, And we didn't have warm We just said when
you get to come down station.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
He did.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
He was very agreeable, very nice.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
He said, hey, I didn't do that. Uh.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Anyway, we locked him up and the next morning I
came in early in the night shift. Guys were getting
off and one of them said, hey, we caught your
own robber last night.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I thought they're kidding me. No, we caught your arm robber.
He's back there in the jail.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
So I go back there and it's the guy and
he looks like not the twin brothers, but he looks
very close to the guy we'd arrested the day before.
So uh, anyway, the story got robbed. That night there
was a squad nearby. Carl came out. They had a
car description that time, and the squad met the car,
turned around, got him, chased him.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
He crashed out, had the good guy.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
So uh, it went up to chain of commander back
down and we went back and apologized the guy and
gave a ride home. Looking back, but sure could have
gone south.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh my bad. You didn't kick in the door of
a wrong house.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
And we were very nice, treated him very nicely. I
just seemed too easy, you know, when they come together
like that, you think it couldn't.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I don't they all work that way. But anyway, Jeff,
did you have do you have a story about kicking
indoor house. I just remember watching cops years ago and
they kicked.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
In the door of the house that was burning, but
it was actually the house in front of the house
that was burning.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, that's what that could go wrong. That's want to
check out. I believe that was Fort Worth PD. Yeah,
it was years ago. Yeah, it looked like the house
was on fire. The guy goes up to the front door.
He's beating on the door. Nobody's answering, and he gets
his aspoiton out and he starts breaking. Lady comes to
the comes to the door, you need to come out.
Your house on fire, and he's getting her out. They
calling the radio and sat it's the house behind this one. Yeah,
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don't do that, guys.
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Speaker 1 (45:14):
And we're back back to more offbeat, the light side
of law enforcement. We're joined with two guests in the
studio today. We've got Steve Alexander and we've got Jeff Parkerson.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
So it's been pleasure having you guys in the studio today.
Thanks for having you. And of course we have Josh
in here also. Josh, it's go abs. Josh, it's not
a pleasure. I thought he was saying Abs earlier.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Oh I do like to work out, but no as
Avalanche Sorry go Avalanche beat the stars.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Wow? Wow, Oh so it's a hockey Yeah, okay, we
learned something new about Josh all the time? You know
my do love the abs? Do you love the apps?
Speaker 4 (46:02):
All of it?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I'm working okay? Do you want to mention? Guys?
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Speaker 2 (47:04):
Steve, could you show us what a thumbs up looks like.
Thank you, good illustration. Yeah, it's going to be wrapped up,
maybe one one more week. I'm glad I was here
for this week. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I might have the bandage on it for one more week,
and you know, by next week I should be able
to hitchhike both directions.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Is that advantage? And is that like an ace bandage
on that? Nah, it's it's the color of an ace bandage.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
But it's a stuff itself self, I don't know, adhesy
to itself whatever.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Somef it hears. The best was the description you gave
to it last week.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
And and uh, would you say it was like a
condom tourniquet for your thumb?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
No, it was. It looked like a condom for a pencil.
That's what That's what it was. Okay, looked like a
condom for a pencil.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, seriously, I mean about the size of a condom,
teeny tiny little hole in the middle of it.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
And it's not very effective condom. Sorry, sorry, family appropriate,
although I guess I could be family appropriate.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
It will be. That was your Yeah, yeah, this may
be my last show. Is enjoyable. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Thank you, Josh for the public service announcement. Yes, y'all
stay safe out there. Okay, Jeff, you you had mentioned
a canine story that you have and I share that
with us.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
So, yeah, we had h this awesome canine, did we? Uh?
I don't.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
I don't know how we we got it, but I
know that it belonged to a certain supervisor.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
And so it was his personal doc.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
I guess it was given to him in that way,
and and we use it as a canine. And okay,
so then you know, in this we ended up losing
it because there was a divorce and the other ah,
he's half not purchased by the city, right, and the
other half was an officer as well, and she got
(49:15):
the dog and the divorce. But the dog he had,
he had a weird thing about him. So he had
a he had a blanket he really liked, and so
like really liked, really liked, and and.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
So you found the blanket attractive. So what what some
of these guys would do is if there was a
mouthy person in the back that they've arrested, they would
throw the blanket on him and the dog would just
start humping away and and just have his way with him.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
So and then the the prisoner would be screaming get
him off me.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Trying to figure out what's up with level of force
that is. I think that's contact. Yeah, I think it
might be it's in contact with them. Yeah, yeah, it
sounds reasonable. So did the dog get to keep his
blanket in the divorce?
Speaker 5 (50:16):
You know, I don't know, but I'm sure the ex
wife probably got rid of the blanket.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
So so I'm just picturing some sort of country song
canine humping button blanket.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
I think that's all. I think that.
Speaker 5 (50:33):
I think that's falled in the old days. Things you
could get away with in the old days.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I've lost it all. Now I have a blanket over
my head and a dog humping it.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
You had somebody on the show that writes country songs, right, Yes,
As a matter of fact, I'll seehim this weekend. There
you go. Time time to write the song.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
I was drunk to day my mom and get out
of person. All right, that's what we got for today's
show again, Steve and Jeff, thanks for coming on, Thanks
for having us, Thanks for having us pleasure of having
you guys here.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Josh, it is what it is, It is, It is
what it is.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Josh, it is what it is having you here. Well,
you know, you know I've got nothing. I got nothing. Yeah,
all right, it's catching on, all right, guys.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Until next time, keep it real, keep it funny, stay
safe and watch each other six
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