September 3, 2025 • 48 mins
Break out your fuzzy cuffs! Dallas Police Assistant Chief Jeremy Foy and Senior Cpl. Louis Pacheco share some of their wild stories about squad car sleeping etiquette, hide and seek with a suspect, and what's a DIRT MONSTER?!
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, The Light Side of Law Enforcement,
part of the Treehouse Podcast Network. On today's show, we'll
hear about power naps, hide and Seek, and who Knows
what else. Steve here co host for today, Joe and Jackson. Hey, y'all,
(00:47):
and we're joining with two guests in the studio. We've
got Senior Corporal Lewis Pacheco, Good morning, and also Assistant
Chief Jeremy Foy. Hell so, welcome, Welcome every body. Now, Joanne,
how have you been You haven't haven't been here a
little while, I know, anything new in your world?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Not not a whole lot. It just had what would
have been my twentieth wedding anniversary. I've been to New
Orleans since I was here to go to the Fifth
Circuit Criminal Court of Appeals.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, they're working on Brian's case, still correct. Yeah, well
the best of luck with that.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You don't have to let us know, uh know, what
happens with that.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was definitely not what I expected it to be.
I was sitting all by myself and there's these three judges, and.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, it was. It was interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Does this this is obviously you went to New Orleans
so this is federal court.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It is federal court.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, never never been to one like that. The uh so,
it's just three judges sitting there.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It's three judges, a Carter, a Reagan, and a Biden
appointed judge, two females, one male, and there's the defendant side.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And the prosecution side.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And because the defense brought it, they speak first, and
then the prosecution rebuts, and then the defense goes back up,
and it's just it's a lot to listen to and.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
This process, I mean, this is something that you don't
even know the outcome yet. And we're talking from a
couple of weeks ago, so these people have all the
time in the world to deliberate over.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
This or yeah, the assistant Attorney General and Austin said
thirteen months to two years. What I've read online is
thirteen months to two years from the time of the
brief being submitted to hearing it to a ruling. So
I don't know when this brief was submitted. So I
don't know if it's thirteen to months to two years
(02:52):
from the six or from the time I don't I
don't know when the brief was submitted. So I mean,
I'm looking at potentially two years.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Wow to your to get an answer for this.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, and of course those those not familiar with this,
Joanna is talking about her her husband's case, Johanne's survivor
of following Dallas officer Brian Jackson. And you know, it
seems like sometimes he's legal battles just just never end.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, and I don't and even if he didn't want it,
which I don't, I have no idea, but these attorneys
they're paid. You know, he doesn't pay for it, but
they're paid. So I mean, it's just it's just hard
to listen to the things I say, and I just
try to control my face. Well it's hard to control
(03:40):
my face, and I know they were looking at me,
and I'm just like rolling my eyes and trying to
like control myself, you know, because I'm the only like
there was like a couple of people behind me, but
I was the only one there to hear this case.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Keep us updated on it, and obviously, I mean we
we hope that justice continues to be served in in
Bryan's case, So yeah, keep us updated on it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
A couple of things we've had happened. We did lose
a grape Vine officer.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
R J.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Hudson.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
H r J was a motor officer for the grape
Vine Police Department for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Really really good guy.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Uh ran into him a lot at the old Capel
motor rodeo they used to have out at Grapevine Mills
in the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
RJ was very involved in that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But just a a really really good guy lost lost
the battle to cancer. So you know, our thoughts in
prayers were with RJ's family, not just his family, but
his his family in Blue as well. They're the guys
that grape Vine and everybody that knew him. He impacted
so many lives. But r J rust in peace, Sir.
(04:57):
I am sure you were in Heaven right now out
dragging the floorboards of a motor somewhere, probably the first
Heaven motor.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Rodeo that he's just throwing his bike on the on
the ground up there.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yes, going back to Josh Jackson who didn't realize his
motor had a kickstand for so many years.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, yeah, Now.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Joey and something I don't even know if you're aware
of this. Something we're about to start doing on offbeat.
We're about to start doing Offbeat on the Road.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Welcome to the club because you're part of Offbeat on
the Road.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Thanks for the warning.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
We're going to start taking the show. We're going to
start being out at different law enforcement events here in
the North Texas area. So setting up out there, meeting folks,
talking to listeners out there at these different events, talking
to guess potential guests out there, and getting stories from guys. So,
if you've got a law enforcement event, you know, a
(05:57):
car show, you know, stair climb, stuff like that, and
you would like to have the Offbeat crew out there,
we'd love to come out and be a part of
your event. A couple of events coming up on Saturday.
We got cops and rotters out in Farmersville. They got
an event. You got the Dallas nine to eleven Memorial
stair Climb going on in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Where is Farmersville?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Farmersville is east of McKinney.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, never been there, help you out? Yeah, I know
where McKinney is. Okay, you still live up there there
when I first moved here.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Okay, all right, well let's don get out much. Let's
move on.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Lewis, you're a senior corporal. Correct, Yes, sir, and that
you're a senior corporal for the Dallas Police Department.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yes. How long have you been in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
I've been in Dallas since two thousand and eight, so
probably about seventeen years now. And por to that, I
was a dark cop for about six and a half years. Okay,
So work for Dart, then left Dart and transitioned over
to DPD. Yes, sir, and what do you do? What
do you crently do it? I'm at the Southwest Division,
so I patrol Cliff. I'm a senior corporate there. I'm
(07:06):
one of the primary trainers on nights. Been on deep
nights pretty much my whole career.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Okay, so sill doing patrol, staying on nights.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Yeah, being on nights, uh, pretty much my whole career.
I did do a small stint in a CRT, which
is a crime response team on nights at Southwest. It
was many years ago when I worked for this guy,
back when he was a sergeant before he became big time.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh did you work with Emily? Was she on Dart
then Emily and Brent?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Yes, I did right at the very end. And then
I believe yeah, because they were there in eight, yeah,
I believe, yeah, yeah, and then I and then I left,
and I think I came on in September of eight
and that's when I started DPUD.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
All right, now, I'm I've been told not to refer
to you as chief. So Jeremy, how are.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You today, Jeremy?
Speaker 7 (08:02):
I'm wonderful.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
How are you doing well? Jeremy? You are, in fact
an assistant chief of the Dallas Police Department?
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Correct, yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
How long you've been with Dallas?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Twenty three years?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Twenty three? Worked anywhere else? No?
Speaker 7 (08:15):
All right now, not as a police officer. Now, it's
always been in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
So you're a low number. You're like a six thousand.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Aren't you?
Speaker 8 (08:21):
No?
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Eighty one hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Oh that's right, Brian's been gone almost twenty years. It
would have been twenty five years. Okay, My math isn't
good in my head today.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Bryan with what seventy eight, seventy nine eighty?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
The irony here is that on last week's show, not
only did I have two Fort Worth officers on his guests,
but even our co host that day was Curtis, who's
a detective for Fort worre so it's all fort Worth
And then yet here we are just one week later
with co host representing Dallas Joanne, and then two Dallas
(08:56):
officers in here. And I know, Lewis you mentioned that
you listened to last week's show. I did, I did, Jeremy,
I'm not sure if.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You did or not.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But we kind of discussed the fact that Chief Eddie
Garcia now is over in Fort Worth and we were
wondering if Fort wor just had this powerful.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Wow wow.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I love Eddie, but Trader.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So we were discussing, you know, is Fort Work just
had this you know, I don't know, like a force
field kind of you know, pulling people in or not.
I mean that, how do you guys feel? I mean,
are you guys going to go after one of the
fort worst chiefs? Now?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I well, you know, for me, it doesn't. You know,
I have a lot of you know, non police friends,
and they always ask me whenever there's a new chief
they see on the news, and it just never. It
doesn't affect me to to any extent because I go
to work and me being in patrol, it doesn't, you know,
less other than policies coming down, it doesn't really matter.
But I would imagine for this guy over here is
probably a different story.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
The Dallas chief went to Fort Worth the first first
I heard of it.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh, yeah, you got it. Yeah, there's a new guy
in there.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So so anyways, yeah, I mean that's that was kind
of a kind of different seeing Chief Eddie head over
that way. I didn't know if you guys are going
to go after Chief Noakes.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Well, I think he just took another job doing something else.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
When I talked to him in a while back, he
had something, had something lined up, I think, So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:28):
They announced something he's doing. It's it's something to do with
law enforcement. It's not he's not being a police chief,
but it's something.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's something I think in law enforcement, but it's not
the department. If I remember correctly, I had some I
had some cocktails. What what, I don't drink that often,
but I have a few during police week.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So you had some cocktails with Chief Noakes.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Okay, Well, anyways, him and his wife were there. They're
both wonderful people.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Yes, I'm sitting here looking at your screen and I'm
and man, I think this camera is doing a little
bit too much I think I've gained an extra twenty pounds.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
That's why I stand.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I think I should have stand accurately.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
You're fat.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I was looking forward to sitting down, but now that
I want to stand up, don't.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Hold anything back down then, jeez.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
This guy, whenever he has an opportunity to poke fun
at my expense, he will be there.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
That's a true friend, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean it's actually his duty is one of your
co workers to to to harass you like that's that's.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Pre a co whor that's a boss right there.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
As long as you don't get written up.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Well we did that a couple of times too.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You're still that is a funny story, I can.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Jeremy is one of the few people that I can
say has written me up more than once. And I
would still go drink a beer with them, so as
many years ago, but I'd still I still consider him
a friend.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
It was my fault, my fault.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I have to know.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh my god, here we go.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
All right, I'm going to tell it because I'm the
one that wrote it.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
You know, there's a different version. There's there's two versions
out there, but I'll let you give yours.
Speaker 9 (12:19):
All right, Well, uh, so Louis here and he had
a partner, and they they were my problem children in
the group that I had, and something was going on
that night and I was like, guys, I need to
be left alone for an hour. I was meeting with
my lieutenant or something like that, and they both start
blowing me up almost immediately with text messages and phone calls,
and I'm thinking, I'm thinking something.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Bad has happened in police work, right, So I followly.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Answer the phone. I'm like, what is going on? And
I don't want to drive tonight? The other guy needs
to drive? And the other guy's like, no, Lewis needs
to drive. I don't want to drive tonight. I'm like,
I mean, we're six years old. And I'm getting a
little hot about it because I'm looking at my boss going, hey,
hang on a second, because I'm thinking something serious is
going on. So when I finally get downstairs to see
(13:03):
what are y'all doing, He's like, he slept last night
while I drove. I want to sleep tonight while he drives.
And you're looking at him like, you don't tell your
supervisor of this. You just don't do And then you
definitely don't call and say, well, I want to sleep tonight,
and then he's like, well, remember last week we went
to your grandmother's house and you slept in the driveway
for thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
That's the part that I do not recall up until there.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Did your grandmother live in a cliff? She did? Living our.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Well, you know what, let me add a caveat Okay,
so there was my partner at the time. We did
butt heads quite a bit, but there was a brand
new unit all the other guys prior to this. I
must have missed the meeting, but everybody got to pick
their partner. And when it came, when I find out
about it, they said, hey, you got a partner. A
week with these guys all picked who they wanted to
(13:53):
ride with you. No one nobody said why did I
get to pick? And they said, I got stuck with him?
So it's not almost like we got stuck with each other.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
So it's like getting picked last and dodgeball. There's always
gonna be one guy that just got you gotta go
over there, and that was you.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, So needless is saying me
and that guy. I love the guy still I'm still
friends with. But man, he uh to tell me who
it is? After yeah, I'll.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Tell you who it is. But we butted heads quite
a bit.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I think that's just how it is, because Brian and
one of his partners could not stand each other, and
then they became like best buds. I came home one
day and I'm like, well, what's he doing here? And
that was He's like, oh, we get along now, and
I was.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Like, oh, okay, we're friends. Good, we're friends now. I'm like,
all right, whatever, brothers.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
It just become best friends exactly.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
All traded blanket so I already sleep in the squad car.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
A pillow?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
No pillows in the squad car? No okay, but no, Louis.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You did bring uh one story today and you know it.
It kind of follows along with the whole theme of
napping there. And I'm not I don't know if we're
looking for a confession here or not, because yes, you
do have super frisure off to your left, but he's
already reatten you up, so you should be familiar.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
They were past the statue of meditations on this one,
and there was one night I think I had I
just had a baby.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
That's what I'm gonna I'm gonna blame it on.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
So I was my wife had my youngest who's fourteen now,
so that when he was younger, you know, I didn't
get a lot of sleep. And I'm always been working
extra jobs and just being busy. But there was one
night I uh, I fell asleep at the light and
uh at the traffic light at at an intersection. And
I worked deep nights and I think there wasn't a
(15:46):
lot of traffic that night, and uh yeah, and I
woke up and I looked and opened my eyes. I
was like, oh shit, I I said, I'm here at
to lie. Nobody around uaid, okay, good. Well I look
at the call sheet and there's a call right there
intersection and I was like, oh, I'm already code six,
you see, and it was it was me.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I was like, god, dang it.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
And I looked at my phone, which I had dropped
on the floor because I guess when it was in
my hand prior to me dozing off.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And I grabbed my phone and I've had.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I look.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I had several miss calls if people calling me trying
to say, hey, wake up that you and I was like, hey,
I'm code six.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Here on the radio, and I said, I'll take that call. Don't.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
I don't see anything out there right now. I said,
we're good over here. So people people still give me
ship about dozing off at the light and answer.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
My owe call.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Noticed the trend. I talked about you going to sleep twice.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Gosh, hey, I have sleep. We were talking about that before.
I have sleep at you.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
Which means you snore. It doesn't mean you go to
sleep just whenever. That's snark clip.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I don't have I don't have quality sleep, is what
it is. He fell into a co at the intersection. Lewis,
she answered your own call? I did. I answered my
own call. Called in as an officer passed out at
an intersection.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Yeah, luckily they didn't put it as an assist. They
was just I think they came in as like what
we'd have, like a forty oh one lower priority. But yeah,
had it been an assist, oh good lord. I don't
think nobody would ever let that one go.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I'm surprised if someone didn't sneak up behind you and
hit the air horn.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Yeah, surprise they were off. It was a he thing.
It was a slow night. There weren't that many people
on duty that night.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He was too he was too close to the scene.
He was already Code six. They didn't have a chance
to chase to get there and do that to it.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
This is Offbeat, the light side of law enforcement.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
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Speaker 3 (18:04):
Good morning?
Speaker 5 (18:04):
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going on lately.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Man, Never a dull moment. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I told myself, Daniel, that I'm retiring from law enforcement.
But I think I'm the I'm at the busiest point
in my life I've ever been. So one might say
I'm failing at retirement.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
That's good.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
You should.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I should fail at retirement. Thanks Daniel.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
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But if fore, what I understand that promotion is quickly
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Speaker 5 (19:12):
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(19:34):
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Speaker 3 (19:59):
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Speaker 2 (20:31):
Hi, this is Joanne Jackson. My husband, Dallas Police officer
Brian Jackson, gave his life serving the city of Dallas
in two thousand and five. The RMS Treehouse Listeners Foundation
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Speaker 1 (21:05):
And we're back. Back to more Offbeat, the light side
of law enforcement. Steve Here, co host for Today, Joeann Jackson. Hey, y'all,
we've got two guests joined us in the studio. We've
got Senior Corporal Lewis Pacheco Hey and Assistant Chief Jeremy Foy.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
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(21:45):
So we're gonna have to have you start saying dot com.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Do I need to spell it?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, we're reading my.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Notes instead of having a dot there. Steve has the
word dot dot dot.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
We don't want to mess up to dot. You don't
want to say alex FM. Period.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Calm Yeah, said said no one ever.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
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Speaker 1 (22:10):
Anyways, good moving on, Moving on, Going back to the
topic Offbeat on the road again, we uh explain the
first segment we're going to be getting out there different
law enforcement events in the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex area
and if you do have an event that you're going
to be a part of and you would like to
Offbeat crew out there at your event, then notify us
(22:32):
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Speaker 3 (22:42):
There and and be a part of it. Oh what
did we uh? What do we have here?
Speaker 9 (22:48):
Now?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Lewis one thing we didn't get into in the first segment.
You actually host your own show, right, Yes, you do,
he does, and Lewis is the host of the show.
Pause contact, tell us a little bit about your show.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Well, to lead up to that, I started a real
estate business probably about seven years ago and it's called
point Man real Estate Team. And with the business, you know,
our goal is to help veterans and first responders navigate
the real estate market. And majority, i'd say ninety percent
of our clients are first responders and then the other
(23:23):
percentage is just the family and friends that we get
referred to. And so, as I got my goal is
to retire here in a couple of years, and so
prior to you know, as as that gets closer and closer.
I started started kind of to find a way of like,
you know, I said, man, I still wanted to be
relevant to you know, the department or first responders. And
(23:43):
then you know, there's a lot of good shows. I'd
watch Yours, the at O Bridge and The Divide, and
it's kind of like there's a lot of good shows
out there, but I'm you know, people who know me,
I like to joke around a lot, and I'm more
on the light I like the more lighthearted stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Amen.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
And so I was like, man, I wonder if there's
a way to you know, talk to officers and still
stay relevant for business stuff as well, but also to
see another side of you know, the guys. You know,
if you watch the show, you'll you'll kind of leave
knowing like, man, I didn't know this about this individual,
or I didn't know you know, their hobbies or you know,
(24:20):
stuff on their bucket list or you know, just just
the personal things and and something to kind of grasp
that and also get a good laugh out of. And
so that's kind of where we we made the YouTube
channel of and it's called Pause Contact and then the
name came from I don't know what other agencies do
with their their body cams, but with us, whenever we
take a you know, a pause from the scene and
(24:42):
we want to sit there and bullshit, you know, or
we you know, we just talk, or or just kind
of away from whatever incident, you know, we'll we'll typically
hit our body camera and say pause.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Contact.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
That's kind of the the language, and so you know,
that's kind of where the whole premise came from, is
just a pause from the chaos going on, we can
sit there and book it around. And that's kind of
where I took that into the show. And so we
had four seasons. I'm kind of doing it. I don't
have the time. I just don't have the bandwidth to
do it monthly or weekly like i'd want to. So
(25:14):
I'm going to do it seasonal. Last year we did
season one. We came out with four episodes. I'm working
on season two, which is in production right now. We're
working on all the interviews and whatnot, and then the
goal is to put that out in January of twenty
twenty six. So every year I'll have a season. We're
shooting six of seven episodes right now that I'll start
(25:37):
in January, and then we'll kind of do the same thing.
So summertime fall of twenty twenty six, I'll work on
season three. That's kind of the goal right now.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, and you're really diving into the background of your guests,
your officers. Hey, you know, where'd you go to school?
What made you want to become an officer?
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's and that's kind of
why I brought Chief Foy on because she Foy had
been on the show. He was on there with one
of the majors, and you know, there's you know, when
you read the Facebook comments and you look, there's people
that did not know that, you know, Chief Boy has
a motorcycle that he rides. They didn't they didn't know that,
they didn't know some of the things about him, or
you know, and the personal things, you know, where they
(26:15):
went to college. There's some guys on there that you know, uh,
they talked about what they would have done if they
didn't get into law enforcement. You just there's things that
you had no clue. And so it's really it is
a per more personal approach. And then while we're eating
hot wings, I did you know, you know, full disclosure,
it's I copied hot ones with Sean Evans. You know,
so there's no not much difference, and we from the
(26:37):
studio to every damn near the napkins, you know, it's
the same. But my goal was to kind of, you know,
leave with the viewer knowing more about the ulcers.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Kind of like humanizing them and that there are people.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And I think you know he's bringing bringing back Chief Foy.
When he was on.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
I think that he had a good time and there
was a lot of things that I think positive.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Eating gasoline, but did you die correct?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
You know what, I'll tell you funny story. This guy
thought we sabotaged him. And so prior, you know, as
we're getting the show together, I I saw obviously on
the hot Ones that they had milk, and I read
up that the milk helps ease the burning pain, the pain,
and so you know, I'll usually have water, milk.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
And beer or whatever they like to drink.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
And so we had that, we had that ready to go.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Well, I'm ready to go on the show.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
I will say that we don't eat as many hot
wings as Sean Evans does on their show. They probably
are round over ten, I think, but we do like
six or seven, I believe, Well, By the third one,
this guy is dying and he's drinking his milk and
he's like, hey, we need more mem Well, we have
staff on hand to bring up, bring more milk. Well
they go out and they're yelling, hey, you're out of milk.
Lewis he's like, oh, you know, this guy thought we
(28:05):
sabotaged it, and he starts taking his other the the
other interview, he starts drinking his milk, and I was like,
that was that was an honest mistake. I really thought
we had, you know, everything we were supposed to, but
we forgot to get more milks.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
It's almost like an in Pepper's breed.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Mouth.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Well well yeah, but I mean they all used milk.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I was eating the hot wings too, and it's like,
I guess I'm getting a little more used to it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But you know, some people.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
Nobody can prove that your wings are the same as
our wings.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
That's that was. That was something that the guys like
yours aren't. It's the same thing. They put them in
the same bowl, they mix them the same, like there's
no different.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
They thought.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
This guy thought I had special wings made just for
me so I can continue to interview.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
So wow, well that again, lewis how your shows right now?
You got a YouTube channel.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Correct, it's you'll find us on YouTube. We also have
a Facebook page and on Instagram. It's funny because a
lot of the people that see it are it is
on TikTok as well. You know, we'll have shorts on there,
but that's usually where I get a lot of followers starting.
We'll see it on TikTok and then they'll find us
back on the YouTube channel, which has all the originals.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Good deal.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Again, guys, check that out. Check them out on YouTube.
It's called Pause Contact.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yeah, if you guys are looking, and also if anybody
would like to be on the show, we'd love to
have them. I mean, right now, we're typically doing a
lot of Dallas officers, but I have had some people
reach out from other agencies interested in being on, so
we're probably gonna start looking into that. I think the
reason is Dallas obviously, because I'm there and and it's
easy for me to find people to interview because there's
(29:47):
somebody that I know or some of their friend of
a friend, so.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
All right them.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
So yeah, a question, I was going to say that
the chief was talking some then about a very large
naked lady.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
You want to hear about the large lady or the
naked lady naked naked.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And we've had a naked guy and a horse.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Those are the best ones.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
So years ago, I was still a baby cop and
it was a call of a couple of years on, maybe,
and it was a call that this woman was at
one of these motels refusing to leave. Typical call, nothing
to get too worked up about. But it's a two
man call. And I get there first, and I'm seeing
the clerk and he's telling me there's a lady in
this room over here. She's been here for a couple
of days and she won't leave. And it's it's probably
(30:36):
more of a civil civil issue than on what we're talking.
But he said every time that the cleaning person would
go through the hotel, she would get out of that
room and go into the room that the lady was cleaning,
run and then just shut just shut the door and
just stay in the room. And I'm like okay, and
he's like, I think she's a little you know, she
has some mental issues or something along those lines, which
(30:57):
is probably the case, you know. And I said, well,
where's she yet? And he's like, well, she's in room
whatever it was. And when I was like, I'll go
talk to her. And I'm not thinking it's gonnay much to it.
My cover's not there yet. So as soon as I
walk around the corner, there she is in the hallway
and she's wearing basically her underwear. She is about six one,
(31:18):
and she is every bit of three hundred and fifty pounds,
but she has this childlike look on her face, like
she's just amazed. She's having a good time, you know.
But she sees me, and when she sees me, she
turns around and starts running down the hallway. And she's
a very large woman. She's not running fast, right, and
she I'm almost giggling at this point, so I'm just
(31:40):
kind of trotting behind her. And she runs into a
room and she tries to shut the door, and it's
not her room, obviously, it's this one of the vacant
hotel rooms. So I kind of stop her from doing that,
and she turns around and she's smiling at me, but
it's you can tell like the elevator has gone all
the way up today, right, And I'm like, hey, you're
gonna have to leave and I'm trying to be cool
(32:02):
with her, and she's just shaking her head no no, no, no,
no no. And I was like, well, by fine, turn around,
put your hands behind your back. And she turns around
and I'm like okay. She says, this is gonna be
a compliant thing. It's not gonna be no big deal.
And so I'm gonna go and put handcuffs on her.
And when I put handcuffs on her, she just pushes
back into me and she's gonna try to get out. Well,
I push her down. When I push her down, she
(32:22):
falls on the bed. Well, now I'm trying to handcuff her.
Now what do you do. I'm basically have climbed on
top of this woman on this bed.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Right.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
She's half naked, right, and she's not really she's not
trying to hurt me or nothing. She's just wanting to
get away, right. So she's just kind of, you know,
wrestling around or whatever. And I can't get her handcuffs
behind her back. And she's kind of large, right, and
she she's an African American. I'm a white guy. And
she starts yelling at me, get it, white boy, just
get it, white boy. Oh, yeah, get it, white boy, right,
(32:55):
and I start laughing. I'm like, oh my god. So
I'm like, okay, this totally doesn't look right. So I'm
climbing off. She's getting off, and now she's gonna roun
out the room again, and I'm like, well, I can't
let her run.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
So I'm like no, no, no no.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
And now she falls on the floor, right, and I
say falls I had pushed her. I'm really more tickled
at this situation anything. So now I've got her by
the hand. I'm trying to turn her over and she
pulls me. Now now I'm on top of her and
we're on the floor and she keeps me and she
keeps going, come on, bring it, white boy, bring it?
You got it? You got oh yeah, come on. And
of course about that time, my cover element shows up,
(33:28):
walks in the door, and he's an older guy, so
he's seen pretty much everything, and he's like, uh, what
y'all doing? And I like, just get over here and
help me, and he like, I don't know, it's like
having a pretty good time.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I don't want any part of this. You know that
that's a good idea. You just as they're cleaning a room,
you just jump in that room, close.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
The door, and just you can't leave the room because
you can't get back in somebody in that room.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You're gonna wait until they're clean the room across the
hall from you, and then that one you open up.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Then you go in that one. You get a fresh room.
It's all made up.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Yeah, you don't need clothes, but.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You can't leave it because the door's gonna lock. I
guess if you put the little bar thing across, we'll
keep it open.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well, if you got another room to go to, then yeah,
who cares the other one.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I was waiting for you to say that she rolled
over on top of you. That's what I was waiting for.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Oh, well, that happened. Shut the no.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Chief is good.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
I don't need any cover. We're now getting married.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
In some states, that is a marriage.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And you know you get one cuff on her and
then she throws the other one on you or something.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Now you're cuffed together. All right. Let me see we Luis,
you were talking about hide and seek.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Oh, I guess we're I guess we're gonna stick on
the subjects of crazy people.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, well, and hiding and seeking. I guess going Yeah,
we were on a call. This is years ago.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, this is probably when I was a younger officer,
probably in the twenty tens.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
We were on a burglary call.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
And I don't remember much about the call as far
as those aspects of it, but.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
We get out there and.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Guys are in the backyard looking and I'll never forget
it was my girlfriend, she's a sergeant, and her partner
at the time as a sergeant now, but they were
in the back and her partner comes around the side
of the house. There's a bunch of big bushes, and
the suspect jumps out and growls at the at the officer,
(35:36):
he goes.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Girl and then so it was the funniest thing.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
And he socks him in the eye and ends up
breaking his orbital bone and everything, and they handcuffed and whatnot,
and he wasn't all there in the head, and he
was pretty piste off, you know, getting popped in the
eye and then having to go to the hospital. But
the whole time he's like, I was just playing hide
and seek. I was just playing hide and seek with you,
and uh, he just kept saying that over and over.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
It was.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
It was freaking hilarious. But ended up not being a burglary.
I think they called it in came out as one,
but after we figured out what had happened, it was
it was like the sun. He lived there, but you know,
but you're in the backyard, hiding in the bushes, you know,
with lights and guns and you know, announcing themselves, and
he pops out thinking he's playing hide and seek with you.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Know, with the police.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Can you imagine righting the report for that.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Walking around the back of the house, it's dark, and
all of a sudden, a man jumps out and goes
like Tony.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
The Tiger, I bunched him in the eye.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
That's just that's a reflex.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
If someone jumps out and goes you, yeah, put up
your guard and automatically take us.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Lucky he didn't get shot, Oh exactly, He's lucky. He
just walked out of there with this orbital bum broken.
Poor guy.
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Speaker 1 (38:14):
And we're back mcd more offbeat the light side of
law enforcement. We're joined by two guests in studio today.
We've got Senior Corporal Lewis Bachako and we've got Assistant
Chief Jeremy Foy, both from the Dallas Police Department. So, gentlemen,
it's been been pleasure for having you join us today.
Thank you for having us And.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I didn't even have to hunt you down. Can you
tell me those Dallas officers coming? I'm like, well, how
did you get them?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah? I got a surprise for you.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Apparently got some.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Dallas people in here. Well, I don't know, did you
know that?
Speaker 7 (38:47):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Joshua Jackson? Yeah? Yeah, Me and josh are are buddies.
And he's the one who kind of now Lewis don't
go around telling too many people that. Okay, yeah, I
like josh that's a good dude. You know, he's in.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, Mike's I come into Mike up here.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
That's funny. No, he's into real estate.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
And then at the time he joined a real estate
coaching firm, and I was his real estate coach for
a few months. He wasn't on that long, but we
ended up having lunch a few times and just became
friends and we still keep in touch. And uh, you
know when I did the when I started my show
on YouTube, and he had already been on here, and
(39:23):
he kind of was the one who was like, man,
you need to come on here and plugging your show,
plus to tell some stories and just you know, he goes.
I think it'd be a good fit. And so he
was the whole reason that I know that's cool here.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
So we have to give Josh credit for something.
Speaker 9 (39:38):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
So I get a man. You win some, you lose some, exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Like the thing about Josh is when I hug him,
I give him like a waste hug. And the only
other person I've ever given waste hugs too is Vinley
you know then from Spot Oh yeah, yeah, he's so tall.
Like I would hug him and I'd be like, this
is really weird because I'm like just gonna like like
here I'm hugging him. I'm like, this is I like
I need, like I need to stand on something.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Retired.
Speaker 9 (40:03):
He did, please, he went down to Mansfield. He retired
from that.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I really he was really cool. He's one of the
offices that came to an island. He was like, Dallas,
we were going to beat you guys. And he did
not succeed. He did not succeed.
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(41:47):
I'm I'm not really sure where to go with this story,
but you've got a story entitled dirt Monster.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Oh I didn't, I didn't name it.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, commanding officers here, Well.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
He was there, That's why he's That's why he knows.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
So I'm gonna give him my I always have my version,
and some people tend to have, you know, have theirs,
So mine is more truthful.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I believe.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
But AnyWho, we were on a critical incident where this
guy as many many years ago, and Chief Boy was
my sergeant at the time, and we had got intel
some this guy was at a department complex and Oakcliff,
and long story short, we set up a huge perimeter.
I think officers went to the door to go confront him,
(42:34):
and this guy jumps out of a second story window
and jumps out of the second story window, yeah, and
gets on his feet like it's nothing and takes off,
takes off running. I'll never forget it was some of
there's some aspects of the night that were pretty funny.
There was a he goes in his waistband as if
he's pulling out a gun.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I think he had a pair of scissors. And there was.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
One officer who was in front of me who was like,
oh shit, and ducks down were scared. And then the
other also that was with him. I went to had
an a r with him and went to fire and
it was click. He forgot to rack a slide and
so that was pretty funny. So by then the guy's
already around the corner and he's in this huge apartment complex.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Everybody's looking for him.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
Everybody split up, and there's a lot of officers on
scene and this guy, I think he was a murder
suspect from earlier that day or that or and so
we're out looking and we we thought he went around
the building and.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
Every everything that, everything that Lewis Patako has said up
to this point is true.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
Now here comes the lies.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Well, how about you finished it out.
Speaker 7 (43:50):
Or you didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
So me and a few officers, because I wasn't by myself,
we were in a group and I had I an
AR at the time, and we come around and we're
by a tree and we're holding around this. I guess
there's breezeways between the apartment complex, and as we start
moving up, I thought I saw somebody.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I thought I saw a figure.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
And since we at the time we still thought he
was armed, I don't think we knew it was a
pair of scissors because we had duck down so quick.
We later found out he wasn't armed. But I saw
what I thought was him coming around and saw his
hands out and I laid it.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
I laid an AR round down at him. Hit the dirt.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
Mind you, I've been into that was my second shooting.
I'm not very accurate, but you know you meant to
hit him.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
I always pass falls, but uh, in high stress, that's
a little different.
Speaker 9 (44:53):
Absolutely, che if you got the true story over here now,
So everything you said was right, right, But he said
he had an AR. What Lewis had was what we
call an a D, which is an accidental discharge. Okay,
because there was He's in a group of guys. No
(45:13):
one else knew what the hell Lewis was shooting at.
He's never gonna come off a story that there was
somebody there, right.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
That's what I told I.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
That's what I told Affairs, and and you should be
You're correct. You probably should never come off that story.
But I'm just telling you right now.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
The guy was hiding in the flower bed.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yes, he was right there.
Speaker 9 (45:36):
I mean, it's not like the round when anywhere near
where somebody would have been hit or anything else. I mean, no,
it was in the dirt and I mean, so ever,
all the boys started saying that, you know, Lewis likes
to shoot at the dirt monster.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
That's where the dirt Monster came up. So yeah, and
on the you know, down the line. It was funny
because the two or three officers that arrested the guy
because he was they were a building or two over a.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
Little further than that Lewis.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
They were nowhere near he was.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
The suspect exactly.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
The suspect was in close proximity, and so when they
were handcuffing him, they heard the discharge and can imagine
the ar round.
Speaker 9 (46:24):
So you mean that while they were handcuffing here you
shooting at the suspect.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Well, we didn't know that they were handcuffing him.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
We didn't know because it was very there's a lot
of chaos.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Custody.
Speaker 6 (46:39):
No, No, that wasn't a thing. Back then. That wasn't
a thing. Now it is every time, but back then
it wasn't.
Speaker 9 (46:45):
And well they had said suspecting custody, Lewis would have
taken his finger off the trigger.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
At least I would have. I would have.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
But yeah, those guys were like, oh, ship man, people
are shooting. They told me later on, like, man, we
heard that round when we're hanging. They were like, people
are shooting around the apartment complex and so we're here.
They thought it was something else going on related to that,
and it was just, you know, it was looking back,
it was funny at the time. I really thought I
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saw somebody. But you know, the other guys you did, Louis,
you did, I saw somebody? Stick with that one, okay?
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Did all right?
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Oh man, gentlemen, it's been a pleasure for having you
on today. Uh Louis again, the name of your show?
Pause contact? Correct, Yes, sir man, Where can folks find
your show?
Speaker 6 (47:38):
Of all the videos are going to be on YouTube,
but we do have a Facebook and Instagram, and like
I said before, you might see some of it on
TikTok some of the shorts.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
All right, guys, guys, check it out again, Lewis Chief,
thank you both for coming.
Speaker 7 (47:52):
On today, Thanks for having us, thanks for having us.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Until next time, keep it real, keep it funny, stay
safe and watch each other.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Six yeah,
Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, The Light Side of Law Enforcement,
part of the Treehouse Podcast Network. On today's show, we'll
hear about power naps, hide and Seek, and who Knows
what else. Steve here co host for today, Joe and Jackson. Hey, y'all,
(00:47):
and we're joining with two guests in the studio. We've
got Senior Corporal Lewis Pacheco, Good morning, and also Assistant
Chief Jeremy Foy. Hell so, welcome, Welcome every body. Now, Joanne,
how have you been You haven't haven't been here a
little while, I know, anything new in your world?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Not not a whole lot. It just had what would
have been my twentieth wedding anniversary. I've been to New
Orleans since I was here to go to the Fifth
Circuit Criminal Court of Appeals.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, they're working on Brian's case, still correct. Yeah, well
the best of luck with that.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You don't have to let us know, uh know, what
happens with that.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was definitely not what I expected it to be.
I was sitting all by myself and there's these three judges, and.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, it was. It was interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Does this this is obviously you went to New Orleans
so this is federal court.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It is federal court.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, never never been to one like that. The uh so,
it's just three judges sitting there.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It's three judges, a Carter, a Reagan, and a Biden
appointed judge, two females, one male, and there's the defendant side.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And the prosecution side.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And because the defense brought it, they speak first, and
then the prosecution rebuts, and then the defense goes back up,
and it's just it's a lot to listen to and.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
This process, I mean, this is something that you don't
even know the outcome yet. And we're talking from a
couple of weeks ago, so these people have all the
time in the world to deliberate over.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
This or yeah, the assistant Attorney General and Austin said
thirteen months to two years. What I've read online is
thirteen months to two years from the time of the
brief being submitted to hearing it to a ruling. So
I don't know when this brief was submitted. So I
don't know if it's thirteen to months to two years
(02:52):
from the six or from the time I don't I
don't know when the brief was submitted. So I mean,
I'm looking at potentially two years.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Wow to your to get an answer for this.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, and of course those those not familiar with this,
Joanna is talking about her her husband's case, Johanne's survivor
of following Dallas officer Brian Jackson. And you know, it
seems like sometimes he's legal battles just just never end.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, and I don't and even if he didn't want it,
which I don't, I have no idea, but these attorneys
they're paid. You know, he doesn't pay for it, but
they're paid. So I mean, it's just it's just hard
to listen to the things I say, and I just
try to control my face. Well it's hard to control
(03:40):
my face, and I know they were looking at me,
and I'm just like rolling my eyes and trying to
like control myself, you know, because I'm the only like
there was like a couple of people behind me, but
I was the only one there to hear this case.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Keep us updated on it, and obviously, I mean we
we hope that justice continues to be served in in
Bryan's case, So yeah, keep us updated on it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
A couple of things we've had happened. We did lose
a grape Vine officer.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
R J.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Hudson.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
H r J was a motor officer for the grape
Vine Police Department for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Really really good guy.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Uh ran into him a lot at the old Capel
motor rodeo they used to have out at Grapevine Mills
in the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
RJ was very involved in that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But just a a really really good guy lost lost
the battle to cancer. So you know, our thoughts in
prayers were with RJ's family, not just his family, but
his his family in Blue as well. They're the guys
that grape Vine and everybody that knew him. He impacted
so many lives. But r J rust in peace, Sir.
(04:57):
I am sure you were in Heaven right now out
dragging the floorboards of a motor somewhere, probably the first
Heaven motor.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Rodeo that he's just throwing his bike on the on
the ground up there.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yes, going back to Josh Jackson who didn't realize his
motor had a kickstand for so many years.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, yeah, Now.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Joey and something I don't even know if you're aware
of this. Something we're about to start doing on offbeat.
We're about to start doing Offbeat on the Road.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Welcome to the club because you're part of Offbeat on
the Road.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Thanks for the warning.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
We're going to start taking the show. We're going to
start being out at different law enforcement events here in
the North Texas area. So setting up out there, meeting folks,
talking to listeners out there at these different events, talking
to guess potential guests out there, and getting stories from guys. So,
if you've got a law enforcement event, you know, a
(05:57):
car show, you know, stair climb, stuff like that, and
you would like to have the Offbeat crew out there,
we'd love to come out and be a part of
your event. A couple of events coming up on Saturday.
We got cops and rotters out in Farmersville. They got
an event. You got the Dallas nine to eleven Memorial
stair Climb going on in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Where is Farmersville?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Farmersville is east of McKinney.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, never been there, help you out? Yeah, I know
where McKinney is. Okay, you still live up there there
when I first moved here.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Okay, all right, well let's don get out much. Let's
move on.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Lewis, you're a senior corporal. Correct, Yes, sir, and that
you're a senior corporal for the Dallas Police Department.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yes. How long have you been in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
I've been in Dallas since two thousand and eight, so
probably about seventeen years now. And por to that, I
was a dark cop for about six and a half years. Okay,
So work for Dart, then left Dart and transitioned over
to DPD. Yes, sir, and what do you do? What
do you crently do it? I'm at the Southwest Division,
so I patrol Cliff. I'm a senior corporate there. I'm
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one of the primary trainers on nights. Been on deep
nights pretty much my whole career.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Okay, so sill doing patrol, staying on nights.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Yeah, being on nights, uh, pretty much my whole career.
I did do a small stint in a CRT, which
is a crime response team on nights at Southwest. It
was many years ago when I worked for this guy,
back when he was a sergeant before he became big time.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh did you work with Emily? Was she on Dart
then Emily and Brent?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Yes, I did right at the very end. And then
I believe yeah, because they were there in eight, yeah,
I believe, yeah, yeah, and then I and then I left,
and I think I came on in September of eight
and that's when I started DPUD.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
All right, now, I'm I've been told not to refer
to you as chief. So Jeremy, how are.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You today, Jeremy?
Speaker 7 (08:02):
I'm wonderful.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
How are you doing well? Jeremy? You are, in fact
an assistant chief of the Dallas Police Department?
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Correct, yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
How long you've been with Dallas?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Twenty three years?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Twenty three? Worked anywhere else? No?
Speaker 7 (08:15):
All right now, not as a police officer. Now, it's
always been in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
So you're a low number. You're like a six thousand.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Aren't you?
Speaker 8 (08:21):
No?
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Eighty one hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Oh that's right, Brian's been gone almost twenty years. It
would have been twenty five years. Okay, My math isn't
good in my head today.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Bryan with what seventy eight, seventy nine eighty?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
The irony here is that on last week's show, not
only did I have two Fort Worth officers on his guests,
but even our co host that day was Curtis, who's
a detective for Fort worre so it's all fort Worth
And then yet here we are just one week later
with co host representing Dallas Joanne, and then two Dallas
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officers in here. And I know, Lewis you mentioned that
you listened to last week's show. I did, I did, Jeremy,
I'm not sure if.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You did or not.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But we kind of discussed the fact that Chief Eddie
Garcia now is over in Fort Worth and we were
wondering if Fort wor just had this powerful.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Wow wow.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I love Eddie, but Trader.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So we were discussing, you know, is Fort Work just
had this you know, I don't know, like a force
field kind of you know, pulling people in or not.
I mean that, how do you guys feel? I mean,
are you guys going to go after one of the
fort worst chiefs? Now?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I well, you know, for me, it doesn't. You know,
I have a lot of you know, non police friends,
and they always ask me whenever there's a new chief
they see on the news, and it just never. It
doesn't affect me to to any extent because I go
to work and me being in patrol, it doesn't, you know,
less other than policies coming down, it doesn't really matter.
But I would imagine for this guy over here is
probably a different story.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
The Dallas chief went to Fort Worth the first first
I heard of it.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh, yeah, you got it. Yeah, there's a new guy
in there.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So so anyways, yeah, I mean that's that was kind
of a kind of different seeing Chief Eddie head over
that way. I didn't know if you guys are going
to go after Chief Noakes.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Well, I think he just took another job doing something else.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
When I talked to him in a while back, he
had something, had something lined up, I think, So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:28):
They announced something he's doing. It's it's something to do with
law enforcement. It's not he's not being a police chief,
but it's something.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's something I think in law enforcement, but it's not
the department. If I remember correctly, I had some I
had some cocktails. What what, I don't drink that often,
but I have a few during police week.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So you had some cocktails with Chief Noakes.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Okay, Well, anyways, him and his wife were there. They're
both wonderful people.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Yes, I'm sitting here looking at your screen and I'm
and man, I think this camera is doing a little
bit too much I think I've gained an extra twenty pounds.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
That's why I stand.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I think I should have stand accurately.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
You're fat.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I was looking forward to sitting down, but now that
I want to stand up, don't.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Hold anything back down then, jeez.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
This guy, whenever he has an opportunity to poke fun
at my expense, he will be there.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
That's a true friend, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean it's actually his duty is one of your
co workers to to to harass you like that's that's.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Pre a co whor that's a boss right there.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
As long as you don't get written up.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Well we did that a couple of times too.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You're still that is a funny story, I can.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Jeremy is one of the few people that I can
say has written me up more than once. And I
would still go drink a beer with them, so as
many years ago, but I'd still I still consider him
a friend.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
It was my fault, my fault.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I have to know.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh my god, here we go.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
All right, I'm going to tell it because I'm the
one that wrote it.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
You know, there's a different version. There's there's two versions
out there, but I'll let you give yours.
Speaker 9 (12:19):
All right, Well, uh, so Louis here and he had
a partner, and they they were my problem children in
the group that I had, and something was going on
that night and I was like, guys, I need to
be left alone for an hour. I was meeting with
my lieutenant or something like that, and they both start
blowing me up almost immediately with text messages and phone calls,
and I'm thinking, I'm thinking something.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Bad has happened in police work, right, So I followly.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Answer the phone. I'm like, what is going on? And
I don't want to drive tonight? The other guy needs
to drive? And the other guy's like, no, Lewis needs
to drive. I don't want to drive tonight. I'm like,
I mean, we're six years old. And I'm getting a
little hot about it because I'm looking at my boss going, hey,
hang on a second, because I'm thinking something serious is
going on. So when I finally get downstairs to see
(13:03):
what are y'all doing, He's like, he slept last night
while I drove. I want to sleep tonight while he drives.
And you're looking at him like, you don't tell your
supervisor of this. You just don't do And then you
definitely don't call and say, well, I want to sleep tonight,
and then he's like, well, remember last week we went
to your grandmother's house and you slept in the driveway
for thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
That's the part that I do not recall up until there.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Did your grandmother live in a cliff? She did? Living our.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Well, you know what, let me add a caveat Okay,
so there was my partner at the time. We did
butt heads quite a bit, but there was a brand
new unit all the other guys prior to this. I
must have missed the meeting, but everybody got to pick
their partner. And when it came, when I find out
about it, they said, hey, you got a partner. A
week with these guys all picked who they wanted to
(13:53):
ride with you. No one nobody said why did I
get to pick? And they said, I got stuck with him?
So it's not almost like we got stuck with each other.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
So it's like getting picked last and dodgeball. There's always
gonna be one guy that just got you gotta go
over there, and that was you.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, So needless is saying me
and that guy. I love the guy still I'm still
friends with. But man, he uh to tell me who
it is? After yeah, I'll.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Tell you who it is. But we butted heads quite
a bit.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I think that's just how it is, because Brian and
one of his partners could not stand each other, and
then they became like best buds. I came home one
day and I'm like, well, what's he doing here? And
that was He's like, oh, we get along now, and
I was.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Like, oh, okay, we're friends. Good, we're friends now. I'm like,
all right, whatever, brothers.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
It just become best friends exactly.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
All traded blanket so I already sleep in the squad car.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
A pillow?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
No pillows in the squad car? No okay, but no, Louis.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You did bring uh one story today and you know it.
It kind of follows along with the whole theme of
napping there. And I'm not I don't know if we're
looking for a confession here or not, because yes, you
do have super frisure off to your left, but he's
already reatten you up, so you should be familiar.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
They were past the statue of meditations on this one,
and there was one night I think I had I
just had a baby.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
That's what I'm gonna I'm gonna blame it on.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
So I was my wife had my youngest who's fourteen now,
so that when he was younger, you know, I didn't
get a lot of sleep. And I'm always been working
extra jobs and just being busy. But there was one
night I uh, I fell asleep at the light and
uh at the traffic light at at an intersection. And
I worked deep nights and I think there wasn't a
(15:46):
lot of traffic that night, and uh yeah, and I
woke up and I looked and opened my eyes. I
was like, oh shit, I I said, I'm here at
to lie. Nobody around uaid, okay, good. Well I look
at the call sheet and there's a call right there
intersection and I was like, oh, I'm already code six,
you see, and it was it was me.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I was like, god, dang it.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
And I looked at my phone, which I had dropped
on the floor because I guess when it was in
my hand prior to me dozing off.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And I grabbed my phone and I've had.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I look.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I had several miss calls if people calling me trying
to say, hey, wake up that you and I was like, hey,
I'm code six.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Here on the radio, and I said, I'll take that call. Don't.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
I don't see anything out there right now. I said,
we're good over here. So people people still give me
ship about dozing off at the light and answer.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
My owe call.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Noticed the trend. I talked about you going to sleep twice.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Gosh, hey, I have sleep. We were talking about that before.
I have sleep at you.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
Which means you snore. It doesn't mean you go to
sleep just whenever. That's snark clip.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I don't have I don't have quality sleep, is what
it is. He fell into a co at the intersection. Lewis,
she answered your own call? I did. I answered my
own call. Called in as an officer passed out at
an intersection.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Yeah, luckily they didn't put it as an assist. They
was just I think they came in as like what
we'd have, like a forty oh one lower priority. But yeah,
had it been an assist, oh good lord. I don't
think nobody would ever let that one go.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I'm surprised if someone didn't sneak up behind you and
hit the air horn.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Yeah, surprise they were off. It was a he thing.
It was a slow night. There weren't that many people
on duty that night.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He was too he was too close to the scene.
He was already Code six. They didn't have a chance
to chase to get there and do that to it.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
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Speaker 3 (18:04):
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Speaker 1 (18:12):
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Speaker 7 (18:25):
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But if fore, what I understand that promotion is quickly
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Speaker 1 (21:05):
And we're back. Back to more Offbeat, the light side
of law enforcement. Steve Here, co host for Today, Joeann Jackson. Hey, y'all,
we've got two guests joined us in the studio. We've
got Senior Corporal Lewis Pacheco Hey and Assistant Chief Jeremy Foy.
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(21:45):
So we're gonna have to have you start saying dot com.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Do I need to spell it?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, we're reading my.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Notes instead of having a dot there. Steve has the
word dot dot dot.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
We don't want to mess up to dot. You don't
want to say alex FM. Period.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Calm Yeah, said said no one ever.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Anyways, good moving on, Moving on, Going back to the
topic Offbeat on the road again, we uh explain the
first segment we're going to be getting out there different
law enforcement events in the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex area
and if you do have an event that you're going
to be a part of and you would like to
Offbeat crew out there at your event, then notify us
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by sending us an email. Email us at Offbeatcopshow at
gmail dot com again Offbeatcopshow at gmail dot com, and
let us know about the event and we'd like to
come out.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
There and and be a part of it. Oh what
did we uh? What do we have here?
Speaker 9 (22:48):
Now?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Lewis one thing we didn't get into in the first segment.
You actually host your own show, right, Yes, you do,
he does, and Lewis is the host of the show.
Pause contact, tell us a little bit about your show.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Well, to lead up to that, I started a real
estate business probably about seven years ago and it's called
point Man real Estate Team. And with the business, you know,
our goal is to help veterans and first responders navigate
the real estate market. And majority, i'd say ninety percent
of our clients are first responders and then the other
(23:23):
percentage is just the family and friends that we get
referred to. And so, as I got my goal is
to retire here in a couple of years, and so
prior to you know, as as that gets closer and closer.
I started started kind of to find a way of like,
you know, I said, man, I still wanted to be
relevant to you know, the department or first responders. And
(23:43):
then you know, there's a lot of good shows. I'd
watch Yours, the at O Bridge and The Divide, and
it's kind of like there's a lot of good shows
out there, but I'm you know, people who know me,
I like to joke around a lot, and I'm more
on the light I like the more lighthearted stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Amen.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
And so I was like, man, I wonder if there's
a way to you know, talk to officers and still
stay relevant for business stuff as well, but also to
see another side of you know, the guys. You know,
if you watch the show, you'll you'll kind of leave
knowing like, man, I didn't know this about this individual,
or I didn't know you know, their hobbies or you know,
(24:20):
stuff on their bucket list or you know, just just
the personal things and and something to kind of grasp
that and also get a good laugh out of. And
so that's kind of where we we made the YouTube
channel of and it's called Pause Contact and then the
name came from I don't know what other agencies do
with their their body cams, but with us, whenever we
take a you know, a pause from the scene and
(24:42):
we want to sit there and bullshit, you know, or
we you know, we just talk, or or just kind
of away from whatever incident, you know, we'll we'll typically
hit our body camera and say pause.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Contact.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
That's kind of the the language, and so you know,
that's kind of where the whole premise came from, is
just a pause from the chaos going on, we can
sit there and book it around. And that's kind of
where I took that into the show. And so we
had four seasons. I'm kind of doing it. I don't
have the time. I just don't have the bandwidth to
do it monthly or weekly like i'd want to. So
(25:14):
I'm going to do it seasonal. Last year we did
season one. We came out with four episodes. I'm working
on season two, which is in production right now. We're
working on all the interviews and whatnot, and then the
goal is to put that out in January of twenty
twenty six. So every year I'll have a season. We're
shooting six of seven episodes right now that I'll start
(25:37):
in January, and then we'll kind of do the same thing.
So summertime fall of twenty twenty six, I'll work on
season three. That's kind of the goal right now.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, and you're really diving into the background of your guests,
your officers. Hey, you know, where'd you go to school?
What made you want to become an officer?
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's and that's kind of
why I brought Chief Foy on because she Foy had
been on the show. He was on there with one
of the majors, and you know, there's you know, when
you read the Facebook comments and you look, there's people
that did not know that, you know, Chief Boy has
a motorcycle that he rides. They didn't they didn't know that,
they didn't know some of the things about him, or
you know, and the personal things, you know, where they
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went to college. There's some guys on there that you know, uh,
they talked about what they would have done if they
didn't get into law enforcement. You just there's things that
you had no clue. And so it's really it is
a per more personal approach. And then while we're eating
hot wings, I did you know, you know, full disclosure,
it's I copied hot ones with Sean Evans. You know,
so there's no not much difference, and we from the
(26:37):
studio to every damn near the napkins, you know, it's
the same. But my goal was to kind of, you know,
leave with the viewer knowing more about the ulcers.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Kind of like humanizing them and that there are people.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And I think you know he's bringing bringing back Chief Foy.
When he was on.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
I think that he had a good time and there
was a lot of things that I think positive.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Eating gasoline, but did you die correct?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
You know what, I'll tell you funny story. This guy
thought we sabotaged him. And so prior, you know, as
we're getting the show together, I I saw obviously on
the hot Ones that they had milk, and I read
up that the milk helps ease the burning pain, the pain,
and so you know, I'll usually have water, milk.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
And beer or whatever they like to drink.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
And so we had that, we had that ready to go.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Well, I'm ready to go on the show.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
I will say that we don't eat as many hot
wings as Sean Evans does on their show. They probably
are round over ten, I think, but we do like
six or seven, I believe, Well, By the third one,
this guy is dying and he's drinking his milk and
he's like, hey, we need more mem Well, we have
staff on hand to bring up, bring more milk. Well
they go out and they're yelling, hey, you're out of milk.
Lewis he's like, oh, you know, this guy thought we
(28:05):
sabotaged it, and he starts taking his other the the
other interview, he starts drinking his milk, and I was like,
that was that was an honest mistake. I really thought
we had, you know, everything we were supposed to, but
we forgot to get more milks.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
It's almost like an in Pepper's breed.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Mouth.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Well well yeah, but I mean they all used milk.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I was eating the hot wings too, and it's like,
I guess I'm getting a little more used to it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But you know, some people.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
Nobody can prove that your wings are the same as
our wings.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
That's that was. That was something that the guys like
yours aren't. It's the same thing. They put them in
the same bowl, they mix them the same, like there's
no different.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
They thought.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
This guy thought I had special wings made just for
me so I can continue to interview.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
So wow, well that again, lewis how your shows right now?
You got a YouTube channel.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Correct, it's you'll find us on YouTube. We also have
a Facebook page and on Instagram. It's funny because a
lot of the people that see it are it is
on TikTok as well. You know, we'll have shorts on there,
but that's usually where I get a lot of followers starting.
We'll see it on TikTok and then they'll find us
back on the YouTube channel, which has all the originals.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Good deal.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Again, guys, check that out. Check them out on YouTube.
It's called Pause Contact.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yeah, if you guys are looking, and also if anybody
would like to be on the show, we'd love to
have them. I mean, right now, we're typically doing a
lot of Dallas officers, but I have had some people
reach out from other agencies interested in being on, so
we're probably gonna start looking into that. I think the
reason is Dallas obviously, because I'm there and and it's
easy for me to find people to interview because there's
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somebody that I know or some of their friend of
a friend, so.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
All right them.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
So yeah, a question, I was going to say that
the chief was talking some then about a very large
naked lady.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
You want to hear about the large lady or the
naked lady naked naked.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And we've had a naked guy and a horse.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Those are the best ones.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
So years ago, I was still a baby cop and
it was a call of a couple of years on, maybe,
and it was a call that this woman was at
one of these motels refusing to leave. Typical call, nothing
to get too worked up about. But it's a two
man call. And I get there first, and I'm seeing
the clerk and he's telling me there's a lady in
this room over here. She's been here for a couple
of days and she won't leave. And it's it's probably
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more of a civil civil issue than on what we're talking.
But he said every time that the cleaning person would
go through the hotel, she would get out of that
room and go into the room that the lady was cleaning,
run and then just shut just shut the door and
just stay in the room. And I'm like okay, and
he's like, I think she's a little you know, she
has some mental issues or something along those lines, which
(30:57):
is probably the case, you know. And I said, well,
where's she yet? And he's like, well, she's in room
whatever it was. And when I was like, I'll go
talk to her. And I'm not thinking it's gonnay much to it.
My cover's not there yet. So as soon as I
walk around the corner, there she is in the hallway
and she's wearing basically her underwear. She is about six one,
(31:18):
and she is every bit of three hundred and fifty pounds,
but she has this childlike look on her face, like
she's just amazed. She's having a good time, you know.
But she sees me, and when she sees me, she
turns around and starts running down the hallway. And she's
a very large woman. She's not running fast, right, and
she I'm almost giggling at this point, so I'm just
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kind of trotting behind her. And she runs into a
room and she tries to shut the door, and it's
not her room, obviously, it's this one of the vacant
hotel rooms. So I kind of stop her from doing that,
and she turns around and she's smiling at me, but
it's you can tell like the elevator has gone all
the way up today, right, And I'm like, hey, you're
gonna have to leave and I'm trying to be cool
(32:02):
with her, and she's just shaking her head no no, no, no,
no no. And I was like, well, by fine, turn around,
put your hands behind your back. And she turns around
and I'm like okay. She says, this is gonna be
a compliant thing. It's not gonna be no big deal.
And so I'm gonna go and put handcuffs on her.
And when I put handcuffs on her, she just pushes
back into me and she's gonna try to get out. Well,
I push her down. When I push her down, she
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falls on the bed. Well, now I'm trying to handcuff her.
Now what do you do. I'm basically have climbed on
top of this woman on this bed.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Right.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
She's half naked, right, and she's not really she's not
trying to hurt me or nothing. She's just wanting to
get away, right. So she's just kind of, you know,
wrestling around or whatever. And I can't get her handcuffs
behind her back. And she's kind of large, right, and
she she's an African American. I'm a white guy. And
she starts yelling at me, get it, white boy, just
get it, white boy. Oh, yeah, get it, white boy, right,
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and I start laughing. I'm like, oh my god. So
I'm like, okay, this totally doesn't look right. So I'm
climbing off. She's getting off, and now she's gonna roun
out the room again, and I'm like, well, I can't
let her run.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
So I'm like no, no, no no.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
And now she falls on the floor, right, and I
say falls I had pushed her. I'm really more tickled
at this situation anything. So now I've got her by
the hand. I'm trying to turn her over and she
pulls me. Now now I'm on top of her and
we're on the floor and she keeps me and she
keeps going, come on, bring it, white boy, bring it?
You got it? You got oh yeah, come on. And
of course about that time, my cover element shows up,
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walks in the door, and he's an older guy, so
he's seen pretty much everything, and he's like, uh, what
y'all doing? And I like, just get over here and
help me, and he like, I don't know, it's like
having a pretty good time.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I don't want any part of this. You know that
that's a good idea. You just as they're cleaning a room,
you just jump in that room, close.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
The door, and just you can't leave the room because
you can't get back in somebody in that room.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You're gonna wait until they're clean the room across the
hall from you, and then that one you open up.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Then you go in that one. You get a fresh room.
It's all made up.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Yeah, you don't need clothes, but.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You can't leave it because the door's gonna lock. I
guess if you put the little bar thing across, we'll
keep it open.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well, if you got another room to go to, then yeah,
who cares the other one.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I was waiting for you to say that she rolled
over on top of you. That's what I was waiting for.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Oh, well, that happened. Shut the no.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Chief is good.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
I don't need any cover. We're now getting married.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
In some states, that is a marriage.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And you know you get one cuff on her and
then she throws the other one on you or something.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Now you're cuffed together. All right. Let me see we Luis,
you were talking about hide and seek.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Oh, I guess we're I guess we're gonna stick on
the subjects of crazy people.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, well, and hiding and seeking. I guess going Yeah,
we were on a call. This is years ago.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, this is probably when I was a younger officer,
probably in the twenty tens.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
We were on a burglary call.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
And I don't remember much about the call as far
as those aspects of it, but.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
We get out there and.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Guys are in the backyard looking and I'll never forget
it was my girlfriend, she's a sergeant, and her partner
at the time as a sergeant now, but they were
in the back and her partner comes around the side
of the house. There's a bunch of big bushes, and
the suspect jumps out and growls at the at the officer,
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he goes.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Girl and then so it was the funniest thing.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
And he socks him in the eye and ends up
breaking his orbital bone and everything, and they handcuffed and whatnot,
and he wasn't all there in the head, and he
was pretty piste off, you know, getting popped in the
eye and then having to go to the hospital. But
the whole time he's like, I was just playing hide
and seek. I was just playing hide and seek with you,
and uh, he just kept saying that over and over.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
It was.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
It was freaking hilarious. But ended up not being a burglary.
I think they called it in came out as one,
but after we figured out what had happened, it was
it was like the sun. He lived there, but you know,
but you're in the backyard, hiding in the bushes, you know,
with lights and guns and you know, announcing themselves, and
he pops out thinking he's playing hide and seek with you.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Know, with the police.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Can you imagine righting the report for that.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Walking around the back of the house, it's dark, and
all of a sudden, a man jumps out and goes
like Tony.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
The Tiger, I bunched him in the eye.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
That's just that's a reflex.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
If someone jumps out and goes you, yeah, put up
your guard and automatically take us.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Lucky he didn't get shot, Oh exactly, He's lucky. He
just walked out of there with this orbital bum broken.
Poor guy.
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Speaker 1 (38:14):
And we're back mcd more offbeat the light side of
law enforcement. We're joined by two guests in studio today.
We've got Senior Corporal Lewis Bachako and we've got Assistant
Chief Jeremy Foy, both from the Dallas Police Department. So, gentlemen,
it's been been pleasure for having you join us today.
Thank you for having us And.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I didn't even have to hunt you down. Can you
tell me those Dallas officers coming? I'm like, well, how
did you get them?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah? I got a surprise for you.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Apparently got some.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Dallas people in here. Well, I don't know, did you
know that?
Speaker 7 (38:47):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Joshua Jackson? Yeah? Yeah, Me and josh are are buddies.
And he's the one who kind of now Lewis don't
go around telling too many people that. Okay, yeah, I
like josh that's a good dude. You know, he's in.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, Mike's I come into Mike up here.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
That's funny. No, he's into real estate.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
And then at the time he joined a real estate
coaching firm, and I was his real estate coach for
a few months. He wasn't on that long, but we
ended up having lunch a few times and just became
friends and we still keep in touch. And uh, you
know when I did the when I started my show
on YouTube, and he had already been on here, and
(39:23):
he kind of was the one who was like, man,
you need to come on here and plugging your show,
plus to tell some stories and just you know, he goes.
I think it'd be a good fit. And so he
was the whole reason that I know that's cool here.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
So we have to give Josh credit for something.
Speaker 9 (39:38):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
So I get a man. You win some, you lose some, exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Like the thing about Josh is when I hug him,
I give him like a waste hug. And the only
other person I've ever given waste hugs too is Vinley
you know then from Spot Oh yeah, yeah, he's so tall.
Like I would hug him and I'd be like, this
is really weird because I'm like just gonna like like
here I'm hugging him. I'm like, this is I like
I need, like I need to stand on something.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Retired.
Speaker 9 (40:03):
He did, please, he went down to Mansfield. He retired
from that.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I really he was really cool. He's one of the
offices that came to an island. He was like, Dallas,
we were going to beat you guys. And he did
not succeed. He did not succeed.
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I'm I'm not really sure where to go with this story,
but you've got a story entitled dirt Monster.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Oh I didn't, I didn't name it.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, commanding officers here, Well.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
He was there, That's why he's That's why he knows.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
So I'm gonna give him my I always have my version,
and some people tend to have, you know, have theirs,
So mine is more truthful.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I believe.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
But AnyWho, we were on a critical incident where this
guy as many many years ago, and Chief Boy was
my sergeant at the time, and we had got intel
some this guy was at a department complex and Oakcliff,
and long story short, we set up a huge perimeter.
I think officers went to the door to go confront him,
(42:34):
and this guy jumps out of a second story window
and jumps out of the second story window, yeah, and
gets on his feet like it's nothing and takes off,
takes off running. I'll never forget it was some of
there's some aspects of the night that were pretty funny.
There was a he goes in his waistband as if
he's pulling out a gun.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I think he had a pair of scissors. And there was.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
One officer who was in front of me who was like,
oh shit, and ducks down were scared. And then the
other also that was with him. I went to had
an a r with him and went to fire and
it was click. He forgot to rack a slide and
so that was pretty funny. So by then the guy's
already around the corner and he's in this huge apartment complex.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Everybody's looking for him.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
Everybody split up, and there's a lot of officers on
scene and this guy, I think he was a murder
suspect from earlier that day or that or and so
we're out looking and we we thought he went around
the building and.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
Every everything that, everything that Lewis Patako has said up
to this point is true.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
Now here comes the lies.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Well, how about you finished it out.
Speaker 7 (43:50):
Or you didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
So me and a few officers, because I wasn't by myself,
we were in a group and I had I an
AR at the time, and we come around and we're
by a tree and we're holding around this. I guess
there's breezeways between the apartment complex, and as we start
moving up, I thought I saw somebody.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I thought I saw a figure.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
And since we at the time we still thought he
was armed, I don't think we knew it was a
pair of scissors because we had duck down so quick.
We later found out he wasn't armed. But I saw
what I thought was him coming around and saw his
hands out and I laid it.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
I laid an AR round down at him. Hit the dirt.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
Mind you, I've been into that was my second shooting.
I'm not very accurate, but you know you meant to
hit him.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
I always pass falls, but uh, in high stress, that's
a little different.
Speaker 9 (44:53):
Absolutely, che if you got the true story over here now,
So everything you said was right, right, But he said
he had an AR. What Lewis had was what we
call an a D, which is an accidental discharge. Okay,
because there was He's in a group of guys. No
(45:13):
one else knew what the hell Lewis was shooting at.
He's never gonna come off a story that there was
somebody there, right.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
That's what I told I.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
That's what I told Affairs, and and you should be
You're correct. You probably should never come off that story.
But I'm just telling you right now.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
The guy was hiding in the flower bed.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yes, he was right there.
Speaker 9 (45:36):
I mean, it's not like the round when anywhere near
where somebody would have been hit or anything else. I mean, no,
it was in the dirt and I mean, so ever,
all the boys started saying that, you know, Lewis likes
to shoot at the dirt monster.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
That's where the dirt Monster came up. So yeah, and
on the you know, down the line. It was funny
because the two or three officers that arrested the guy
because he was they were a building or two over a.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
Little further than that Lewis.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
They were nowhere near he was.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
The suspect exactly.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
The suspect was in close proximity, and so when they
were handcuffing him, they heard the discharge and can imagine
the ar round.
Speaker 9 (46:24):
So you mean that while they were handcuffing here you
shooting at the suspect.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Well, we didn't know that they were handcuffing him.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
We didn't know because it was very there's a lot
of chaos.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Custody.
Speaker 6 (46:39):
No, No, that wasn't a thing. Back then. That wasn't
a thing. Now it is every time, but back then
it wasn't.
Speaker 9 (46:45):
And well they had said suspecting custody, Lewis would have
taken his finger off the trigger.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
At least I would have. I would have.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
But yeah, those guys were like, oh, ship man, people
are shooting. They told me later on, like, man, we
heard that round when we're hanging. They were like, people
are shooting around the apartment complex and so we're here.
They thought it was something else going on related to that,
and it was just, you know, it was looking back,
it was funny at the time. I really thought I
(47:13):
saw somebody. But you know, the other guys you did, Louis,
you did, I saw somebody? Stick with that one, okay?
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Did all right?
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Oh man, gentlemen, it's been a pleasure for having you
on today. Uh Louis again, the name of your show?
Pause contact? Correct, Yes, sir man, Where can folks find
your show?
Speaker 6 (47:38):
Of all the videos are going to be on YouTube,
but we do have a Facebook and Instagram, and like
I said before, you might see some of it on
TikTok some of the shorts.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
All right, guys, guys, check it out again, Lewis Chief,
thank you both for coming.
Speaker 7 (47:52):
On today, Thanks for having us, thanks for having us.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Until next time, keep it real, keep it funny, stay
safe and watch each other.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Six yeah,
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