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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you were about to hear
is true.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The names have been changed to protect the innocent drag mens.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. You
get a call that a woman has been badly beaten.
She can't describe her assailant. He's still at large. Your
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job find him.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It was Monday, January fourteenth. It was Reigning in Los Angeles.
We were working the night Watch out of robbery detail.
My partner's Frank Smith, the boss achieve he take his
stad round.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
My name is Friday. We're on our way out from
the office.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It was eleven forty seven pm when we got to
seventy ninety two Oakwood Avenue front door.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Police officers would like see, miss Griffin? How do I
know play party?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
How do I know your cap?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Here's our identification party?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Pass it through the door. I wanna see it?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Good? Alright they are?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
What do you think? Are your guess as good as mine?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Mommy in thank you?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Burry up?
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Don't it all away?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Then?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yes? Fair? What if I have my dentification back?
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Take your coats off right here. I don't want your
track in the.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Water through the house. All right, Could I have that
identification guard?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You don't mind my being so careful about what's happened here.
I got to take all precautions, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Mom, into the sitting room.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'll take that car taks.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
One of you, Sergeant Friday, I am uh, you're the
one who called.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Who's he?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's my partner, Frank Smith.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Uh huh, Well sit down, here's your card?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Get anything up?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Coffee? Maybe some hot coco?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
No, no, no, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I'm suit yourself. What is it you want?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We understand, you know, missus Karen, we are neighbors. Maybe
you can tell us what happened here tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Seems like you'd have the story being cops and all.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We'd like to hear you telling now.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
All right.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I was here tonight watching the TV. Just gone out
with the kid to get a play the snacks for
the late show, you know, kind of like the munch. Well,
all of a sudden I heard this scream, real loud.
I wasn't watching the television right then, so at first
I thought it was from the set, you know, like
a drama. That's right, didn't make nothing about it right
then got myself all set up for the movie, and
then I heard another scream. That's when I knew there
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was something wrong. How's that It was a quiz on
the television, No reason for any screams. Right then there
was another one. Then I knew it was from next door. Yeah,
So I got my coat and umbrella and went over there.
I see knocked on the door, but didn't get no answer. Well,
I went into the house all dark, not a light on,
went right in and called to missus Karen called to her,
didn't answer, but I could kind to hear something off
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to the back of the place.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Sounded like somebody crying. Sounded like a himper soft.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I came from the back of the house in the bedroom.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You didn't see anybody else in the house when you
went into.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
The If I had, i'd have told you before this,
Glad please. I got to the bedroom and opened the door. Uh,
couldn't see anything at first.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Then I was about to go on in and this
man jumped out at me.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
He was in the bedroom, was he? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I must have been hiding in the dark and heard
me coming, and he got back. So I wouldn't see him.
Then when opened the door, he jumped right out, almost
scared me to death.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well what did he do?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
He just jumped at me and ran out of the house,
right through the front door. I heard it slam, and
then I heard the crying again. Was sort of off
to one side of the room. I couldn't see right
away where it was coming from.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I turned on the light and right away I saw her.
She was laying on the floor.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's been Oh, it was just terrible.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Room was all tall out, things all thrown around, the
real mess, and her land right there in the middle
of it, all beat up. Looked like whoever done had
tried to kill her?
Speaker 7 (03:41):
What'd you do?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Then called the police, dialed old, told the operator to
send the policeman. Wasn't long before they's here. It seemed
like there was a hundred of 'em all over the place.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And I wonder if he can give us a description
of the man you saw.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Other officers asked me the same thing, asn't much I
can tell you. Just all of a sudden he was
there and then.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
He was gone.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, pretty sure it was a man, though certainly I
guess I know a man when I see one, been
married to one for twenty two years.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yes, ma'am, can you tell us anything about him?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I just got a glimpse of him.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Not good.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I can't tell you anything, but I looked he was
standing in the dark when I come in. Next thing
I knew, he jumped past me and went out the
front door.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yes, ma'am. Would you know him again if you saw him?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I don't think so, just a glimpse, that's all.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Like to help.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
There's much more I can tell.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You, all right, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
How is missus Karen? She gonna be okay.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, she be in the hospital for a few days.
She's gonna be alright, and she.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Able to tell you something about the man who did this. No, ma'am,
seems like she'd be able to describe him. Must have
been there for a good half hour.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Funny figure.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
That must have been at least that long, from the
time I heard the first scream till I got over there.
First off, I didn't think it was real, thought it
was on television.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I spam.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
You told us, must have.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Been half hour ou of missus Karen. Have any enemies
that you knew of?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Well, there's some people who didn't like her couple right
here in the neighborhood, But none of them that would
do a thing like that.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
This i'd see and her husband seem to get along.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Well you mean, did they have any facts?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
All the time. Seemed like they was always battling about something.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Would you know what caused the arguments? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Mostly about her another man. He thought she's running around
on him. He used to fight about it a couple
of times. He said, if she didn't stop, he's gonna
kill her.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Was that true?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
What do you mean about hurt and the men? Yes,
well it might have been for all I know. It
didn't say much mind to their troubles. Seems like I
had too many things to keep me busy without getting
mixed up in their problems.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
All right, missus Griffin will leave our cord with you.
If you remember anything you think, we'd be interested, and
we appreciate a call from.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Him if I think of anything, you get one.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Don't it seem kind of funny to you?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Or what's that?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Oh, missus killing can't tell you anything about the fella.
Don't that strike you'd kind of odd?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Well, somebody is in my house for that long, I'd
be able to tell something about him, something for sure. Use,
I guess the lights off, maybe she couldn't see. And
then again, yes, ma'am, maybe you don't want to tell you.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Frank and I drove back to the office and put
him a call to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. We talked
to doctor Sebastian and found the victim and recovered to
the point where she did removed to her own hospital.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
We also talked with the officers who were with her.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
They told us that the woman hadn't given them any
new information and they still hadn't been able to contact
her husband. While I checked the crime lab, Flank went
down the hall around the names Irene and Tom Kieran
throw R.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I two fourteen am.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
We met back in the squad room.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'd go in the crime lab. I got it all here.
You want to take a look.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, beginning to look like we got a good case
against their husband.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh, here there's a picture of the room the woman
was found about here.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
See you can see.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
The way the stuff scattered all around the place, all
through here.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, it looks like robbery. Well, he wanted to look
that way.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Maybe bla well in the dresser drawer here the boys
from the crime lab found a hundred and twenty dollars
in cash.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
All the thief had to do was open the drawer
and he'd have seen it too. Oh well, how about
the entrance.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That's something else that doesn't seem to gel. They checked
all the windows and doors. There's no sign of any breaking.
She must opened the door for the thief. Well, that
means it was somebody, missus Kieran knew. Huh, yeah, it
kind of looks that way. Anything else we can use,
you know, take a look here.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Here's a picture of a footprint Lee Jones found on
the earth beside the path.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
The way it looks the thief left the path when
he ran from the house and stepped in the soft dirt.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Do it any good?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Not much.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
The ground was wet. Must have been a good impression,
but the ring broke down the walls. It's not much
good to us now, that's it. Uh yeah, Lake and
Prince didn't come up with anything.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Todd you do well, nothing on the woman husband's gotten
the rest?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Director, Yeah, got it right here, missus Karen Adiym Prince
eighteen months ago in a beating charge, refused to prosecute
same thing a year ago. And here besides her complaints,
he's been booked Frady w in suspicion two eleven done
any big time?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
No, never drew a conviction. Now, Joe Thing, I don't understand.
If it was her husband, why doesn't she beef him?
She wasn't worried.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
About having him rest before. Uh, there's something wrong about it. Well,
I've gotta be an answer someplace. You tag the stats office. Yeah,
I gave him what we had on the guy. They're
gonna start a run on the mo in the morning.
Then I got the rest of this information down to
you know, we can drop it off on the way out.
Uh right, she got that list of he husband's friend.
Uh huh, Well, let's talk to them. Maybe they can't
tell us where he is.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Okay, hot shot, I'll get it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
What is the Stat's office is gonna have to wait?
I guess huh eighteen twenty four Studio Court. Well, that's
a couple of blocks from Karen's.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
What's it called?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Woman slugged. We left the office and we drove over
to the address code three. It was a small house
set well back on the lot. When we got there,
a fellow the card A Hollywood Division had already arrived
in the crime lab had been called. The victim was
identified as a Missus Milo Hudson, aged forty two. An
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ambulance was dispatched from Hollywood Receiving Hospital and she was
given first aid.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
She'd been beaten about the head and shoulders.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
As soon as the attendants had finished, Frank and I
talked to her, if you'll just tell us what happened, awful.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Thing, most awful thing ever happened to me?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yes, ma'am. Did you get a good look at the man?
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Pretty good? Not real good? But I didn't see him.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Could you describe him for us?
Speaker 6 (09:08):
How do you mean?
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
How tall was he?
Speaker 6 (09:10):
I guess about as tall as you be, about five
foot eleven if that's how tall you are, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
How about his weight? Was he heavi?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Or a light about like him?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'd be about a hundred eighty I guess.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
So I don't know, but I guess that's about what
it is.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
What about his face? To see that?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Yes, sir, got a good look?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know him? Again? If you saw himould you?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
I certainly would never forget that face. Not if I
live to be a hundred, I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Why could you give us a good description of him?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Had dark hair, almost black, kind of curly a little
way right here in front. Had blue eyes dark blue,
might have been kind of hazel color, dark m Was
he clean shaven? You mean did he have a mustache? Yes, ma'am, No,
didn't have anything like that.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Was there anything about him that might make it easier
for us to identify him?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I don't think I know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Well, did he have any scars, any birthmarks, anything like that?
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Let me think it seems there was something, But I
can't remember.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
What this man say anything to you.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Not at first when he came in, he didn't say
a word, just pointed the gun at me and motioned
back into the house like he wanted me to get
back there.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Uh huh. But he did say something to you later,
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yes, When we got to the bedroom and he started
to go through the place, I told him you'd better
get out because my husband would be coming in any minute.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I see.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
He smiled and said he knew George didn't get home
to go forth three.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
He used your husband's name, Yes.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Come think of it, he did. I didn't pay much
attention to it before, but he did.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Do you think he ever saw that man before?
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Not that I remember, But you sure you'd.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Know him if you saw him again.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
I sure would see. I remember what it was about him. Yes,
you know you wanted something about him that would make
it easier to tell if he was the right. Man's right.
He had a scar, small one right here by his eye,
made it look like his left eye was real big.
Gave him a funny look.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
That what you meant, Yes, ma'am. I wonder if you'd
come down and study hall and go through some pictures
for us.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
But I want to do everything I can to help.
I'm supposed to check with my doctor. If he says
it's all right, I'll be there. When would you want me?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Well, if you could make it in the morning.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
If the doctor says it's all right, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Okay, thanks, missus.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
I'dson wudn't send a car for you if you like,
might be better if you did. George likes to sleep
late and I don't drive.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All right, ma'am, we'll call you in the morning.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Sure, hope you can catch the person who's done this.
Lord knows how many more people he's gonna hurt.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Just seems to know all about people when they're gonna
be alone, and all seems to know all about 'em
new right where everything in this house was all the
way new, right down to a t.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You're sure you never saw him before?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
That right?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Positive If you don't forget that kind of face, see
it once and you remember it all your life.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Was there anybody new in the neighborhood?
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I don't understand what you mean.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, like any salesman door to door, canvas or anything
like that.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Residential neighborhood like this, there's always somebody around trying to
sell something. Must be a couple of people a day
come to the door. But I'm sure the man who
hit me wasn't one of 'em.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
All right, ma'am, thank you very much, not at.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
All, Sergeant. I want to do all I can to
help you get him. M M. Do you have any
idea who he is where to find him?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Not very much, Ms. Hudson.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Terrible to think about it. Men like that roam in
the streets. Woman isn't safe in her own home anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
We'll get to him ma'am, I should hope.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
So, but what do we do in the meantime? Just
sit here and wait for this lunatic to kick the
doors down.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
We'll do everything we can.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Awful, I'll never forget how he came in here. Shove
me around, just never forget it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, that makes you even, but he won't either.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
We got out a supplemental broadcast carrying the description of
the suspect, and then we continued to talk to the
latest victim. She was unable to come up with any
additional information. Four thirty am the crew from the Crime
I have finished up their investigation and Frank and I
went back to the office. We left the description of
the suspect at the Stat's office and we asked R
and I to check the outity file for a possible
identification on the sky that the suspect had. Five twenty
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one am we signed out of the office.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
The next day at nine twenty six.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Am, we met with Chief Brown and Captain donnah Home
and we went.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Over the case with it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Because of the method of operation used, it became apparent
that the thief was acquainted with the habits of the
people in the neighborhood. Two additional teams of men were
assigned to the case, and they began to canvass the
area for information on people who appeared to be loitering
in the vicinity. Was also decided to assign three more
police units to patrol the streets during the night hours.
We checked all FI cards that had been filed in
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the area. That afternoon, Milo Hudson came down to the
office and went through the mug books, but she was
unable to make an identification. She was shown pictures of
Tom Kieran, the husband of the first victim, but she
stated positively that he was not the man who'd beaten her.
The list of possibles came back from the Stat's office
and was checked without result.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
A week went by.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
In spite of the additional men involved, the suspect hit
three more times.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
In each case, the mo was the same in each
case he escaped. However, we were able to get a
little more information on him.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We had the artist in Crime Analysis Division draw up
a composite picture of the suspect and we had it
distributed to all officers in the city. The daily papers
ranted on their front pages. Thursday January twenty fourth, five
twenty PM him. Frank and I got back to the
office from dinner.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I want a coffe and tell her it looks like
a late night. All right, I'll checked the book.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Anything, No, you call her from Pinky Yeah. I and
Lightner talked to that magazine salesman.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Check. Ha, No, a guy just got in town a
couple of days ago. Description's pretty far off. I got it.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Robbery Friday. Yes, ma'am, that's right. Well, we can take it,
all right. What's that address again, Yes, that's studio Court.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Man will be right out. No, no, don't do anything.
If he wants to leave, don't try to stop him.
That right, We'll be right there. Woman out of the
studio court. Yeah, says she thinks the suspects in her
house now. Frank and I left the office and drove
over to the address we've been.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Given on the phone.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
As we pulled up in front of the house, we
could see a man standing on the porch. We got
out of the car and we went up the walk.
At the front door, we met the woman who'd called.
She said that the man had rung the door had
tried to force his way into the house. She went
out to say that her husband wasn't home, and then
she managed to stall the man until we got there.
We took him back to the city hall and talked
to him in the interrogation room. He identified himself as
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Victor Nadell. Frank went down the hall to running through
records in identification.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
A lot of trouble. You guys are causing me no
reason for all this.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What are you doing at that house?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Trying to earn a living?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You have to force your way in to do that
at all.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Broads off her.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Rocker.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
I didn't try to get into.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The place, she says you did.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
She's flipped.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
What do you do for a living?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
I work? You know another way?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
What kind of work? Sale?
Speaker 8 (15:33):
What do you sell right now? I'm selling lots real estate? Yeah,
where tracked down in the desert. Who do you work for?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
I don't think I'm going to tell you that you're
not gonna get them.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
We're going to fight out.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Anyway, And I wanted you to save yourself a lot
of grief and tell us you get paid.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
You dig it out.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Have you ever been arrested a couple.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Of times where Oklahoma?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
What for?
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Call it hijacket robbery? Same thing?
Speaker 8 (15:54):
Do you ever do any time now, and I couldn't
nail it down. Where you live kind of room down
on his fifth room privileges. Who do you work for?
Speaker 7 (16:02):
It's your job?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
How long you've been in town?
Speaker 7 (16:04):
A couple of months?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You've been working for this real estate company since you
got here?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Yeah, I got the job a couple of days after
I got off the train.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
How'd you get it? Answer to mad Do you ever
see that woman out on the studio court before?
Speaker 7 (16:15):
No, you don't know her.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I told you she'd have no reason to tie a
bad beef on you.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
With you she's doing it, and she's.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Kind of silly without any reasoning.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Then, yeah, she's a woman. That's the only need.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'd empty your pockets out on the table here. Why
come on when they're playing games here in her And what's.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
This all about?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
What are you guys trying to prove with all this
strong we're trying to.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Find out why you wanted to break into that house.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I told you I didn't break into the house.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
I had all harpies out of her mind to tell
you a thing like that. I don't know why, but
she's got it in for me once to see me
get into trouble.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You said, you didn't know her.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
That's right, you never saw her before. That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Why she build a thing like that?
Speaker 7 (16:43):
I told you, I don't know. It's a line.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
I walked up to the door and asked if I
could talk to her, just try to talk to her
right away.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
She starts yelling at me to get away, get off
the property.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Why didn't you leave?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Then? I wanted to make a saying you must have
figured she wasn't interested.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
I needed to make a sale. I haven't been doing
too good. I had to make a sale or I'd
lost my job. It's a reason to act like a
tough guy, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
All I did was try to talk to her. Talk
in a buyer.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You got a funny way of doing it.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I thought maybe she was gonna call the police, make
a complaint.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
She'd have done that.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I'd lost my job, sure, and that's all there is
to it.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
I'm telling you the truth. You gotta believe me. You've
been working the neighborhood before. Ah, it's the first time
I've been kind of sick though. Last week is the
first time out for me. First time I've been around here.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
What'd you work before? Westlake Area do you ever have
any trouble there?
Speaker 6 (17:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
No, why'd you make the switch?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Then?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Just thought i'd try a new territory, see if I
could make up for the week or lost.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You got anybody who will back up this story for you?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
People at my rooming house, I'll tell you. I'll say
I was there all week, some kind of.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Flu I'll tell you. Oh yeah, yeah, tell me the
way here.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's right. Just sit there. It looks like we nailed
the wrong guy.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
When you figure car just came in the radio, car
picked up and fell out in Roseworth Avenue?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Who caught him in the house trying to beat a
woman to death?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
How about the description matches the suspect right down the line.
Victor Nadell was booking at the main jail pending further investigation.
We were unable to connect him with any robbery. But
Perry Thomas at the City Attorney's Office is you're a
complaint charging violation of section four.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Fifteen of the Penal Code.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
At seven forty six pm, the suspect we've gotten the
call about arrived at the City Hall.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
He was fingerprinted and checked through R and I.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
We found that he'd served a year and a day
in New York State for breaking and entering. He'd served
a sentence in the state of Washington on similar charges.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Physically, he matched the description we'd gotten from the victims.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
While Pinky, Mead and d Lightner contacted the women and
asked them to come down to the office, Frank and
I questioned the suspect.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Rudolph Marnell. Is that your true name? Yes, sir? Where
do you live?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
My home's out in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's a big place now at Downlander.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Ledgwood Drive, twenty nine to seventeen.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You's ever been arrested?
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
It was a mistake though both times, well the second
time was because of the first.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well you mean by that?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I once you done time, it seems like that and
he goes wrong.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
The cops are on your back just like this.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You want to tell us what happened out there tonight?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
You mean on Rosewood? That's right, big misunderstand Where you
tell us about it?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Were you?
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I wanted to use her phone? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I guess she got scared about something.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
All I want to do is make a call.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
How did you ask her? Regular way?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Told her I was in trouble, asked if I could phone.
Next thing, I know, she's screaming up a storm. There's
cops all around me.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
According to this report, you didn't stop when you were told?
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Is that right? I guess so, well?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Is it or isn't it? Yeah? Why'd you run?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
I didn't know what's going on.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
I got a record, I had enough to do with
cops to ask me the rest of my life. Soon
as I heard the sirens, I took off. I guess
I didn't hear that cop told me to stop.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to believe.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Well, you believe the woman who says I tried to
slug her. You believe her, but you don't believe me,
You see, That's.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
What I meant.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Let's say, Well, as soon as you fall once, there's
a dozen cops right behind you, all the time waiting
to stomp on you.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You ever figured that you helped build it that way?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
It reads good, but you ain't got nobody on your tail?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
All right? Now, tell us again about tonight.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
I told the cops who picked me up. I told
the cop who finger printed me. I already told you once.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Now how many times you want to hear it until
we get it the right way? Well, how are you
gonna know?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
We'll find it?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Come on, got out of the interrogation room, go ahead,
down this way.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Go ahead right in there on Yeah, all right, marn Now,
now let's clean it up.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
What do you mean you know we're gonna have no
trouble making you on these things. We got the victims
on their way down here now as soon as they
identify you've had it. So save yourself a lot of
time in trouble if you cop out.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
Now, I'd like to give you a hand starts, I
really would, but there's nothing I can do.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
All right? What were you doing on January tenth?
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Tenth?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
That's right?
Speaker 7 (20:22):
But there was a Thursday. Shit, I don't know. It's
a long time ago. It's hard to remember.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
How about the eleventh?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Same, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Fourteenth?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, yeah, I can tell you about that, right, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
I got through work and.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Went home, met the wife, we had dinner, took in
the show to improved that.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
We sure ask my wife. She'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right. How about Wednesday the sixteenth?
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Blank?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You don't remember what you were doing on the sixteenth
of January? H No, is it important? It's gonna be
for you. How about the seventeenth, that'd be Thursday.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
That's right. I stayed home and watched the wrestling on television.
You improve that? Can? You sure had some people and
to watch the matches?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Give us their names? Yeah? Who was wrestling that night?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
You want them all?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Or just how about the Sammy lineup?
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Let me think ye, it was a tag team match
between the McLean Brothers and the South Twins.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
You're sure, I'm positive. How about the nineteenth? What'd you
do then? Nineteenth?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That would be Saturday? Man, I'm off Saturday. I don't remember.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Two good Probably came home, sat around the house strength
baron looked. That was Saturday, the nineteenth, Yeah, the nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
How about Monday, the twenty first?
Speaker 7 (21:24):
I bowled that night where Lane's out on sunset?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Bowler all the time?
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You bowl every Monday night?
Speaker 7 (21:29):
No, not every week. Usually it's on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Why'd you change this week?
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Some of the guys couldn't make it Tuesday, so we
changed the day.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Anything special to you about January fourteenth, seventeenth, twenty first?
Speaker 7 (21:38):
And what do you mean special?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Well, your birthday, your anniversary, something like that. No, it's
just regular day, that's right, nothing to make them stand out. No, then,
how come you can remember what you were doing on
those days? You can't give us a story for January tenth, eleventh, sixteenth,
or nineteen.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
I don't know what.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Are you guys trying to get me to say? What
are you trying to get at the truth? Well, I'm
giving it to you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We can't see it. How come you remember those days?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
I don't know. I just do.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It's kind of funny. I couldn't remember what I was
doing last week. I'd have to sit down and think
about it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You didn't even have to try to remember. You knew
right away. Didn't you think it was important for you
to remember? Keep trying to build an aliby, don't you look?
You ask me where I was?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I told you.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Let's have the names of the people.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
You say, you're aware you're gonna talk. That's right? Or
maybe they won't remember.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I think they will. What happens if they don't, then
you're in big trouble. You're holding a lot of it
right now. Let's have the name.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Sure, I ain't going nothing to worry about. I'll give
them to you.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Here's a pencil paper there, Uh? I don't know all
the addresses.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
We'll look them up.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
You're gonna have to talk to him.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Huh, sure, what's the matter. I think they won't stand
behind you.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
No, it's not that.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And what is it?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Oh, just that they don't know I've done time.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Maybe when they find out or try to get me,
you know, say they weren't with me, they might do that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, like that woman's domain. Yeah, just like that, people
will like him. M's do name right now? Mm? Seems
like everybody's trying to get you in trouble.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I want a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Won't check fink, see if the victims are here?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Yeah, but what's gonna happen now?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well, you got some people we won't see you.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Who are there?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Women you beat up?
Speaker 7 (22:55):
No, you can't make me on those jobs?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think we can.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Yeah, well you just try. You take this thing in
the court and they're gonna thought right out.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's the way you got to figure. That's right?
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Go ahead, right, I.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Said, I want a lawyer, Well, I said, I want
a lawyer when you'll get them Yeah, and a jury.
I want a jury trial. You got a choice, you bet.
I have to bring all these women down here to
point me out well, isn't.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Going to work.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
A bunch of people who don't like me causing me
trouble people who don't like me. I want a jury trial,
a judge and a jury.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
You'll get them. We'll make you a bet they won't
like you either.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
Rudolph August Marnell was filed on for four counts of
robbery in the first degree, five counts of burglary in
the first degree, and five counts of assault with intent
to do great bodily injury. He was found guilty by
a jury trial on all counts and received sentence as
prescribed by law. Robbery in the first degree is punishable
by imprisonment for a period of not less than five years.
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Burglary in the first degree is punishable by imprisonment for
a period of not less than five years. Assault with
intent to do great bodily harm is punishable by a
term of from one to twenty years in the state penitentiary.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Dragnet.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
The Story of Your Police.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Force in Action is a presentation of the United States
Armed Forces radio service.
Speaker 10 (25:01):
Less's bo that's como. That's about the coloss
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you were about to hear
is true.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The names have been changed to protect the innocent drag mens.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. You
get a call that a woman has been badly beaten.
She can't describe her assailant. He's still at large. Your
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job find him.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It was Monday, January fourteenth. It was Reigning in Los Angeles.
We were working the night Watch out of robbery detail.
My partner's Frank Smith, the boss achieve he take his
stad round.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
My name is Friday. We're on our way out from
the office.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It was eleven forty seven pm when we got to
seventy ninety two Oakwood Avenue front door.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Police officers would like see, miss Griffin? How do I
know play party?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
How do I know your cap?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Here's our identification party?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Pass it through the door. I wanna see it?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Good? Alright they are?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
What do you think? Are your guess as good as mine?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Mommy in thank you?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Burry up?
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Don't it all away?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Then?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yes? Fair? What if I have my dentification back?
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Take your coats off right here. I don't want your
track in the.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Water through the house. All right, Could I have that
identification guard?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You don't mind my being so careful about what's happened here.
I got to take all precautions, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Mom, into the sitting room.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'll take that car taks.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
One of you, Sergeant Friday, I am uh, you're the
one who called.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Who's he?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's my partner, Frank Smith.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Uh huh, Well sit down, here's your card?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Get anything up?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Coffee? Maybe some hot coco?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
No, no, no, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I'm suit yourself. What is it you want?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We understand, you know, missus Karen, we are neighbors. Maybe
you can tell us what happened here tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Seems like you'd have the story being cops and all.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We'd like to hear you telling now.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
All right.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I was here tonight watching the TV. Just gone out
with the kid to get a play the snacks for
the late show, you know, kind of like the munch. Well,
all of a sudden I heard this scream, real loud.
I wasn't watching the television right then, so at first
I thought it was from the set, you know, like
a drama. That's right, didn't make nothing about it right
then got myself all set up for the movie, and
then I heard another scream. That's when I knew there
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was something wrong. How's that It was a quiz on
the television, No reason for any screams. Right then there
was another one. Then I knew it was from next door. Yeah,
So I got my coat and umbrella and went over there.
I see knocked on the door, but didn't get no answer. Well,
I went into the house all dark, not a light on,
went right in and called to missus Karen called to her,
didn't answer, but I could kind to hear something off
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to the back of the place.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Sounded like somebody crying. Sounded like a himper soft.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I came from the back of the house in the bedroom.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You didn't see anybody else in the house when you
went into.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
The If I had, i'd have told you before this,
Glad please. I got to the bedroom and opened the door. Uh,
couldn't see anything at first.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Then I was about to go on in and this
man jumped out at me.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
He was in the bedroom, was he? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I must have been hiding in the dark and heard
me coming, and he got back. So I wouldn't see him.
Then when opened the door, he jumped right out, almost
scared me to death.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well what did he do?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
He just jumped at me and ran out of the house,
right through the front door. I heard it slam, and
then I heard the crying again. Was sort of off
to one side of the room. I couldn't see right
away where it was coming from.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I turned on the light and right away I saw her.
She was laying on the floor.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's been Oh, it was just terrible.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Room was all tall out, things all thrown around, the
real mess, and her land right there in the middle
of it, all beat up. Looked like whoever done had
tried to kill her?
Speaker 7 (03:41):
What'd you do?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Then called the police, dialed old, told the operator to
send the policeman. Wasn't long before they's here. It seemed
like there was a hundred of 'em all over the place.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And I wonder if he can give us a description
of the man you saw.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Other officers asked me the same thing, asn't much I
can tell you. Just all of a sudden he was
there and then.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
He was gone.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, pretty sure it was a man, though certainly I
guess I know a man when I see one, been
married to one for twenty two years.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yes, ma'am, can you tell us anything about him?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I just got a glimpse of him.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Not good.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I can't tell you anything, but I looked he was
standing in the dark when I come in. Next thing
I knew, he jumped past me and went out the
front door.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yes, ma'am. Would you know him again if you saw him?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I don't think so, just a glimpse, that's all.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Like to help.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
There's much more I can tell.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You, all right, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
How is missus Karen? She gonna be okay.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, she be in the hospital for a few days.
She's gonna be alright, and she.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Able to tell you something about the man who did this. No, ma'am,
seems like she'd be able to describe him. Must have
been there for a good half hour.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Funny figure.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
That must have been at least that long, from the
time I heard the first scream till I got over there.
First off, I didn't think it was real, thought it
was on television.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I spam.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
You told us, must have.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Been half hour ou of missus Karen. Have any enemies
that you knew of?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Well, there's some people who didn't like her couple right
here in the neighborhood, But none of them that would
do a thing like that.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
This i'd see and her husband seem to get along.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Well you mean, did they have any facts?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
All the time. Seemed like they was always battling about something.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Would you know what caused the arguments? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Mostly about her another man. He thought she's running around
on him. He used to fight about it a couple
of times. He said, if she didn't stop, he's gonna
kill her.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Was that true?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
What do you mean about hurt and the men? Yes,
well it might have been for all I know. It
didn't say much mind to their troubles. Seems like I
had too many things to keep me busy without getting
mixed up in their problems.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
All right, missus Griffin will leave our cord with you.
If you remember anything you think, we'd be interested, and
we appreciate a call from.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Him if I think of anything, you get one.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Don't it seem kind of funny to you?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Or what's that?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Oh, missus killing can't tell you anything about the fella.
Don't that strike you'd kind of odd?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Well, somebody is in my house for that long, I'd
be able to tell something about him, something for sure. Use,
I guess the lights off, maybe she couldn't see. And
then again, yes, ma'am, maybe you don't want to tell you.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Frank and I drove back to the office and put
him a call to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. We talked
to doctor Sebastian and found the victim and recovered to
the point where she did removed to her own hospital.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
We also talked with the officers who were with her.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
They told us that the woman hadn't given them any
new information and they still hadn't been able to contact
her husband. While I checked the crime lab, Flank went
down the hall around the names Irene and Tom Kieran
throw R.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I two fourteen am.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
We met back in the squad room.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'd go in the crime lab. I got it all here.
You want to take a look.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, beginning to look like we got a good case
against their husband.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh, here there's a picture of the room the woman
was found about here.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
See you can see.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
The way the stuff scattered all around the place, all
through here.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, it looks like robbery. Well, he wanted to look
that way.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Maybe bla well in the dresser drawer here the boys
from the crime lab found a hundred and twenty dollars
in cash.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
All the thief had to do was open the drawer
and he'd have seen it too. Oh well, how about
the entrance.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That's something else that doesn't seem to gel. They checked
all the windows and doors. There's no sign of any breaking.
She must opened the door for the thief. Well, that
means it was somebody, missus Kieran knew. Huh, yeah, it
kind of looks that way. Anything else we can use,
you know, take a look here.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Here's a picture of a footprint Lee Jones found on
the earth beside the path.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
The way it looks the thief left the path when
he ran from the house and stepped in the soft dirt.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Do it any good?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Not much.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
The ground was wet. Must have been a good impression,
but the ring broke down the walls. It's not much
good to us now, that's it. Uh yeah, Lake and
Prince didn't come up with anything.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Todd you do well, nothing on the woman husband's gotten
the rest?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Director, Yeah, got it right here, missus Karen Adiym Prince
eighteen months ago in a beating charge, refused to prosecute
same thing a year ago. And here besides her complaints,
he's been booked Frady w in suspicion two eleven done
any big time?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
No, never drew a conviction. Now, Joe Thing, I don't understand.
If it was her husband, why doesn't she beef him?
She wasn't worried.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
About having him rest before. Uh, there's something wrong about it. Well,
I've gotta be an answer someplace. You tag the stats office. Yeah,
I gave him what we had on the guy. They're
gonna start a run on the mo in the morning.
Then I got the rest of this information down to
you know, we can drop it off on the way out.
Uh right, she got that list of he husband's friend.
Uh huh, Well, let's talk to them. Maybe they can't
tell us where he is.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Okay, hot shot, I'll get it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
What is the Stat's office is gonna have to wait?
I guess huh eighteen twenty four Studio Court. Well, that's
a couple of blocks from Karen's.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
What's it called?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Woman slugged. We left the office and we drove over
to the address code three. It was a small house
set well back on the lot. When we got there,
a fellow the card A Hollywood Division had already arrived
in the crime lab had been called. The victim was
identified as a Missus Milo Hudson, aged forty two. An
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ambulance was dispatched from Hollywood Receiving Hospital and she was
given first aid.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
She'd been beaten about the head and shoulders.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
As soon as the attendants had finished, Frank and I
talked to her, if you'll just tell us what happened, awful.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Thing, most awful thing ever happened to me?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yes, ma'am. Did you get a good look at the man?
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Pretty good? Not real good? But I didn't see him.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Could you describe him for us?
Speaker 6 (09:08):
How do you mean?
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
How tall was he?
Speaker 6 (09:10):
I guess about as tall as you be, about five
foot eleven if that's how tall you are, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
How about his weight? Was he heavi?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Or a light about like him?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'd be about a hundred eighty I guess.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
So I don't know, but I guess that's about what
it is.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
What about his face? To see that?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Yes, sir, got a good look?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know him? Again? If you saw himould you?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
I certainly would never forget that face. Not if I
live to be a hundred, I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Why could you give us a good description of him?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Had dark hair, almost black, kind of curly a little
way right here in front. Had blue eyes dark blue,
might have been kind of hazel color, dark m Was
he clean shaven? You mean did he have a mustache? Yes, ma'am, No,
didn't have anything like that.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Was there anything about him that might make it easier
for us to identify him?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I don't think I know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Well, did he have any scars, any birthmarks, anything like that?
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Let me think it seems there was something, But I
can't remember.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
What this man say anything to you.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Not at first when he came in, he didn't say
a word, just pointed the gun at me and motioned
back into the house like he wanted me to get
back there.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Uh huh. But he did say something to you later,
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yes, When we got to the bedroom and he started
to go through the place, I told him you'd better
get out because my husband would be coming in any minute.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I see.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
He smiled and said he knew George didn't get home
to go forth three.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
He used your husband's name, Yes.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Come think of it, he did. I didn't pay much
attention to it before, but he did.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Do you think he ever saw that man before?
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Not that I remember, But you sure you'd.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Know him if you saw him again.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
I sure would see. I remember what it was about him. Yes,
you know you wanted something about him that would make
it easier to tell if he was the right. Man's right.
He had a scar, small one right here by his eye,
made it look like his left eye was real big.
Gave him a funny look.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
That what you meant, Yes, ma'am. I wonder if you'd
come down and study hall and go through some pictures
for us.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
But I want to do everything I can to help.
I'm supposed to check with my doctor. If he says
it's all right, I'll be there. When would you want me?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Well, if you could make it in the morning.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
If the doctor says it's all right, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Okay, thanks, missus.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
I'dson wudn't send a car for you if you like,
might be better if you did. George likes to sleep
late and I don't drive.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All right, ma'am, we'll call you in the morning.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Sure, hope you can catch the person who's done this.
Lord knows how many more people he's gonna hurt.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Just seems to know all about people when they're gonna
be alone, and all seems to know all about 'em
new right where everything in this house was all the
way new, right down to a t.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You're sure you never saw him before?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
That right?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Positive If you don't forget that kind of face, see
it once and you remember it all your life.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Was there anybody new in the neighborhood?
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I don't understand what you mean.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, like any salesman door to door, canvas or anything
like that.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Residential neighborhood like this, there's always somebody around trying to
sell something. Must be a couple of people a day
come to the door. But I'm sure the man who
hit me wasn't one of 'em.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
All right, ma'am, thank you very much, not at.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
All, Sergeant. I want to do all I can to
help you get him. M M. Do you have any
idea who he is where to find him?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Not very much, Ms. Hudson.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Terrible to think about it. Men like that roam in
the streets. Woman isn't safe in her own home anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
We'll get to him ma'am, I should hope.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
So, but what do we do in the meantime? Just
sit here and wait for this lunatic to kick the
doors down.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
We'll do everything we can.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Awful, I'll never forget how he came in here. Shove
me around, just never forget it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, that makes you even, but he won't either.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
We got out a supplemental broadcast carrying the description of
the suspect, and then we continued to talk to the
latest victim. She was unable to come up with any
additional information. Four thirty am the crew from the Crime
I have finished up their investigation and Frank and I
went back to the office. We left the description of
the suspect at the Stat's office and we asked R
and I to check the outity file for a possible
identification on the sky that the suspect had. Five twenty
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one am we signed out of the office.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
The next day at nine twenty six.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Am, we met with Chief Brown and Captain donnah Home
and we went.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Over the case with it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Because of the method of operation used, it became apparent
that the thief was acquainted with the habits of the
people in the neighborhood. Two additional teams of men were
assigned to the case, and they began to canvass the
area for information on people who appeared to be loitering
in the vicinity. Was also decided to assign three more
police units to patrol the streets during the night hours.
We checked all FI cards that had been filed in
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the area. That afternoon, Milo Hudson came down to the
office and went through the mug books, but she was
unable to make an identification. She was shown pictures of
Tom Kieran, the husband of the first victim, but she
stated positively that he was not the man who'd beaten her.
The list of possibles came back from the Stat's office
and was checked without result.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
A week went by.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
In spite of the additional men involved, the suspect hit
three more times.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
In each case, the mo was the same in each
case he escaped. However, we were able to get a
little more information on him.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We had the artist in Crime Analysis Division draw up
a composite picture of the suspect and we had it
distributed to all officers in the city. The daily papers
ranted on their front pages. Thursday January twenty fourth, five
twenty PM him. Frank and I got back to the
office from dinner.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I want a coffe and tell her it looks like
a late night. All right, I'll checked the book.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Anything, No, you call her from Pinky Yeah. I and
Lightner talked to that magazine salesman.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Check. Ha, No, a guy just got in town a
couple of days ago. Description's pretty far off. I got it.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Robbery Friday. Yes, ma'am, that's right. Well, we can take it,
all right. What's that address again, Yes, that's studio Court.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Man will be right out. No, no, don't do anything.
If he wants to leave, don't try to stop him.
That right, We'll be right there. Woman out of the
studio court. Yeah, says she thinks the suspects in her
house now. Frank and I left the office and drove
over to the address we've been.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Given on the phone.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
As we pulled up in front of the house, we
could see a man standing on the porch. We got
out of the car and we went up the walk.
At the front door, we met the woman who'd called.
She said that the man had rung the door had
tried to force his way into the house. She went
out to say that her husband wasn't home, and then
she managed to stall the man until we got there.
We took him back to the city hall and talked
to him in the interrogation room. He identified himself as
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Victor Nadell. Frank went down the hall to running through
records in identification.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
A lot of trouble. You guys are causing me no
reason for all this.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What are you doing at that house?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Trying to earn a living?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You have to force your way in to do that
at all.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Broads off her.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Rocker.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
I didn't try to get into.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The place, she says you did.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
She's flipped.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
What do you do for a living?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
I work? You know another way?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
What kind of work? Sale?
Speaker 8 (15:33):
What do you sell right now? I'm selling lots real estate? Yeah,
where tracked down in the desert. Who do you work for?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
I don't think I'm going to tell you that you're
not gonna get them.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
We're going to fight out.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Anyway, And I wanted you to save yourself a lot
of grief and tell us you get paid.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
You dig it out.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Have you ever been arrested a couple.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Of times where Oklahoma?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
What for?
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Call it hijacket robbery? Same thing?
Speaker 8 (15:54):
Do you ever do any time now, and I couldn't
nail it down. Where you live kind of room down
on his fifth room privileges. Who do you work for?
Speaker 7 (16:02):
It's your job?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
How long you've been in town?
Speaker 7 (16:04):
A couple of months?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You've been working for this real estate company since you
got here?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Yeah, I got the job a couple of days after
I got off the train.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
How'd you get it? Answer to mad Do you ever
see that woman out on the studio court before?
Speaker 7 (16:15):
No, you don't know her.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I told you she'd have no reason to tie a
bad beef on you.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
With you she's doing it, and she's.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Kind of silly without any reasoning.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Then, yeah, she's a woman. That's the only need.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'd empty your pockets out on the table here. Why
come on when they're playing games here in her And what's.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
This all about?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
What are you guys trying to prove with all this
strong we're trying to.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Find out why you wanted to break into that house.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I told you I didn't break into the house.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
I had all harpies out of her mind to tell
you a thing like that. I don't know why, but
she's got it in for me once to see me
get into trouble.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You said, you didn't know her.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
That's right, you never saw her before. That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Why she build a thing like that?
Speaker 7 (16:43):
I told you, I don't know. It's a line.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
I walked up to the door and asked if I
could talk to her, just try to talk to her
right away.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
She starts yelling at me to get away, get off
the property.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Why didn't you leave?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Then? I wanted to make a saying you must have
figured she wasn't interested.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
I needed to make a sale. I haven't been doing
too good. I had to make a sale or I'd
lost my job. It's a reason to act like a
tough guy, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
All I did was try to talk to her. Talk
in a buyer.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You got a funny way of doing it.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I thought maybe she was gonna call the police, make
a complaint.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
She'd have done that.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I'd lost my job, sure, and that's all there is
to it.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
I'm telling you the truth. You gotta believe me. You've
been working the neighborhood before. Ah, it's the first time
I've been kind of sick though. Last week is the
first time out for me. First time I've been around here.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
What'd you work before? Westlake Area do you ever have
any trouble there?
Speaker 6 (17:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
No, why'd you make the switch?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Then?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Just thought i'd try a new territory, see if I
could make up for the week or lost.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You got anybody who will back up this story for you?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
People at my rooming house, I'll tell you. I'll say
I was there all week, some kind of.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Flu I'll tell you. Oh yeah, yeah, tell me the
way here.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's right. Just sit there. It looks like we nailed
the wrong guy.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
When you figure car just came in the radio, car
picked up and fell out in Roseworth Avenue?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Who caught him in the house trying to beat a
woman to death?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
How about the description matches the suspect right down the line.
Victor Nadell was booking at the main jail pending further investigation.
We were unable to connect him with any robbery. But
Perry Thomas at the City Attorney's Office is you're a
complaint charging violation of section four.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Fifteen of the Penal Code.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
At seven forty six pm, the suspect we've gotten the
call about arrived at the City Hall.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
He was fingerprinted and checked through R and I.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
We found that he'd served a year and a day
in New York State for breaking and entering. He'd served
a sentence in the state of Washington on similar charges.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Physically, he matched the description we'd gotten from the victims.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
While Pinky, Mead and d Lightner contacted the women and
asked them to come down to the office, Frank and
I questioned the suspect.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Rudolph Marnell. Is that your true name? Yes, sir? Where
do you live?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
My home's out in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's a big place now at Downlander.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Ledgwood Drive, twenty nine to seventeen.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You's ever been arrested?
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
It was a mistake though both times, well the second
time was because of the first.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well you mean by that?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I once you done time, it seems like that and
he goes wrong.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
The cops are on your back just like this.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You want to tell us what happened out there tonight?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
You mean on Rosewood? That's right, big misunderstand Where you
tell us about it?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Were you?
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I wanted to use her phone? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I guess she got scared about something.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
All I want to do is make a call.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
How did you ask her? Regular way?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Told her I was in trouble, asked if I could phone.
Next thing, I know, she's screaming up a storm. There's
cops all around me.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
According to this report, you didn't stop when you were told?
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Is that right? I guess so, well?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Is it or isn't it? Yeah? Why'd you run?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
I didn't know what's going on.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
I got a record, I had enough to do with
cops to ask me the rest of my life. Soon
as I heard the sirens, I took off. I guess
I didn't hear that cop told me to stop.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to believe.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Well, you believe the woman who says I tried to
slug her. You believe her, but you don't believe me,
You see, That's.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
What I meant.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Let's say, Well, as soon as you fall once, there's
a dozen cops right behind you, all the time waiting
to stomp on you.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You ever figured that you helped build it that way?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
It reads good, but you ain't got nobody on your tail?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
All right? Now, tell us again about tonight.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
I told the cops who picked me up. I told
the cop who finger printed me. I already told you once.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Now how many times you want to hear it until
we get it the right way? Well, how are you
gonna know?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
We'll find it?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Come on, got out of the interrogation room, go ahead,
down this way.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Go ahead right in there on Yeah, all right, marn Now,
now let's clean it up.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
What do you mean you know we're gonna have no
trouble making you on these things. We got the victims
on their way down here now as soon as they
identify you've had it. So save yourself a lot of
time in trouble if you cop out.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
Now, I'd like to give you a hand starts, I
really would, but there's nothing I can do.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
All right? What were you doing on January tenth?
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Tenth?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
That's right?
Speaker 7 (20:22):
But there was a Thursday. Shit, I don't know. It's
a long time ago. It's hard to remember.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
How about the eleventh?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Same, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Fourteenth?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, yeah, I can tell you about that, right, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
I got through work and.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Went home, met the wife, we had dinner, took in
the show to improved that.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
We sure ask my wife. She'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right. How about Wednesday the sixteenth?
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Blank?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You don't remember what you were doing on the sixteenth
of January? H No, is it important? It's gonna be
for you. How about the seventeenth, that'd be Thursday.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
That's right. I stayed home and watched the wrestling on television.
You improve that? Can? You sure had some people and
to watch the matches?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Give us their names? Yeah? Who was wrestling that night?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
You want them all?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Or just how about the Sammy lineup?
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Let me think ye, it was a tag team match
between the McLean Brothers and the South Twins.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
You're sure, I'm positive. How about the nineteenth? What'd you
do then? Nineteenth?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That would be Saturday? Man, I'm off Saturday. I don't remember.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Two good Probably came home, sat around the house strength
baron looked. That was Saturday, the nineteenth, Yeah, the nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
How about Monday, the twenty first?
Speaker 7 (21:24):
I bowled that night where Lane's out on sunset?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Bowler all the time?
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You bowl every Monday night?
Speaker 7 (21:29):
No, not every week. Usually it's on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Why'd you change this week?
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Some of the guys couldn't make it Tuesday, so we
changed the day.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Anything special to you about January fourteenth, seventeenth, twenty first?
Speaker 7 (21:38):
And what do you mean special?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Well, your birthday, your anniversary, something like that. No, it's
just regular day, that's right, nothing to make them stand out. No, then,
how come you can remember what you were doing on
those days? You can't give us a story for January tenth, eleventh, sixteenth,
or nineteen.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
I don't know what.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Are you guys trying to get me to say? What
are you trying to get at the truth? Well, I'm
giving it to you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We can't see it. How come you remember those days?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
I don't know. I just do.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It's kind of funny. I couldn't remember what I was
doing last week. I'd have to sit down and think
about it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You didn't even have to try to remember. You knew
right away. Didn't you think it was important for you
to remember? Keep trying to build an aliby, don't you look?
You ask me where I was?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I told you.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Let's have the names of the people.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
You say, you're aware you're gonna talk. That's right? Or
maybe they won't remember.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I think they will. What happens if they don't, then
you're in big trouble. You're holding a lot of it
right now. Let's have the name.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Sure, I ain't going nothing to worry about. I'll give
them to you.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Here's a pencil paper there, Uh? I don't know all
the addresses.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
We'll look them up.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
You're gonna have to talk to him.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Huh, sure, what's the matter. I think they won't stand
behind you.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
No, it's not that.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And what is it?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Oh, just that they don't know I've done time.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Maybe when they find out or try to get me,
you know, say they weren't with me, they might do that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, like that woman's domain. Yeah, just like that, people
will like him. M's do name right now? Mm? Seems
like everybody's trying to get you in trouble.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I want a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Won't check fink, see if the victims are here?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Yeah, but what's gonna happen now?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well, you got some people we won't see you.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Who are there?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Women you beat up?
Speaker 7 (22:55):
No, you can't make me on those jobs?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think we can.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Yeah, well you just try. You take this thing in
the court and they're gonna thought right out.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's the way you got to figure. That's right?
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Go ahead, right, I.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Said, I want a lawyer, Well, I said, I want
a lawyer when you'll get them Yeah, and a jury.
I want a jury trial. You got a choice, you bet.
I have to bring all these women down here to
point me out well, isn't.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Going to work.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
A bunch of people who don't like me causing me
trouble people who don't like me. I want a jury trial,
a judge and a jury.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
You'll get them. We'll make you a bet they won't
like you either.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
Rudolph August Marnell was filed on for four counts of
robbery in the first degree, five counts of burglary in
the first degree, and five counts of assault with intent
to do great bodily injury. He was found guilty by
a jury trial on all counts and received sentence as
prescribed by law. Robbery in the first degree is punishable
by imprisonment for a period of not less than five years.
(23:56):
Burglary in the first degree is punishable by imprisonment for
a period of not less than five years. Assault with
intent to do great bodily harm is punishable by a
term of from one to twenty years in the state penitentiary.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Dragnet.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
The Story of Your Police.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Force in Action is a presentation of the United States
Armed Forces radio service.
Speaker 10 (25:01):
Less's bo that's como. That's about the coloss
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