Discussing Kansas UFO Day Celebration July 5th 2025!

Mark, Pam, Jess, and Enzo

Discussing Kansas UFO Day Celebration, July 5th, 2025!


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Have you ever wondered what was out there in the
night sky, stared up at the stars in the hopes
of seeing something out of the ordinary. Have you heard
unexplainable noises coming from a vacant room or watched the
shadow across the wall in front of you. Have you
asked yourself if there is life after this one, or
if you had life before? What about strange creatures that

(00:28):
are mythical and elusive? Have you experienced dejeuvu or felt
a prompting to leave because you felt you were in danger.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
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(02:08):
so tonight we are going to discuss this last weekends Saturdays,
Kansas UFO Day celebration in Geneseo, Kansas. And it was
a good time had by all as far as I
can tell.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
So it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
It was a lot of fun they had. I would
say they were down a little bit this year because
it looked like it was going to rain for half
the day, but they still had.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
The first half of the morning was heavy overcast. We
even ran into a little spitting rain just driving up
there from hutch It was I can understand why a
lot of people didn't because then after the clouds broke
that it just was steamy up there. Then that sun
was just oppressive to stand in.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, you could you could see the moisture in the
air when you looked down the road. Everything was all
gray and stuff in the Yeah, you.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Could see the fingerprints in my forehead still when Yeah,
but it was.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
A really good it was a really good time. There
were I would say several hundred people, you know, probably
a good one hundred at any given time there throughout
the day. Uh So it was a pretty good turnout.
And it's all too to benefit the Geneseo City Museum

(03:32):
and they're awesome UFO collection that was started by the
town doctor that donated his house for the city to
use as a museum. Besides the UFO collection, there's lots
of cool stuff in there. It's really a look into
a small town, USA nineteen fifties and sixties. So I mean,

(03:55):
if you are in the area, I would definitely stop by.
Call first, Yes, call first. They're not that it's like
open by appointment.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Bonus points if you find the small but the highly
coveted spam recipe, the award winning spam recipes.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Ian has issues with the way we say vehicle.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
Vehicle. What word was that?

Speaker 4 (04:31):
What vehicle vehicle.

Speaker 7 (04:36):
Vehicle like beetlejuice? Should we say it three times? Vehicle
vehicle vehicle? Is your bear gun?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yet He's gonna note right on out of here. Oh
my goodness, We're not.

Speaker 7 (04:55):
Bad at all.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
We like an we might be a little evil. I
don't know, I just need a cat. Where's the cat?

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Your cat's like, no.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Nope, I'm out talk about it. So we started out
the day We actually started out the day before. You
there's the Roswell.

Speaker 7 (05:20):
Compass and so it's got a mug.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
So we started out Friday driving up there.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
Actually, no, I want to go get a T shirt.
But it's around here somewhere. I think it has drill
bits in it or something.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
The only person that uses their mug for what it's
supposed to be for drinking whiskey.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
Yeah, because I have like a thousand and one mugs
already that are already in use.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
So all right, it'sat on thousand and one whiskey drinking mugs.
Just one for drill bits.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Just one for drill bits. I mean, I'm special, but
most people call me ed.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
No.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
So Kansas UFO Day. It was just it was a
pretty awesome there was We had a lot of people
stopped by the booth, and I'd like to thank everybody
who did stop by the booth. I really met some
really interesting people and some people from last year, some

(06:37):
people who's new never been there before. Shout out to
my friend Teresa Johnson, who I had not seen in
damn near forty years, and we're standing there talking like
I know you.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
So yeah, she did not know Mark was going to
be there or anything like that. She asked me if
we had like a business card for our little group.
It's like, yeah, sure, it's over here at the booth.
Come on over and hand her things at some of
our posters and all the rest of this. Well, yeah,
you guys are from Canie, Kansas. That's I'm I'm from
like you'd all, I grew up around there. Then if

(07:14):
she looks over and sees Mark and they make that connection, it's.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Always it's always fun running to somebody from from the
old town there. So there we had pretty uh, pretty
good turnout. I thought, Yeah, so I'm gonna bring this
up real quick. See if I'm smart enough to run
the technology tonight. I am not always smart enough to

(07:41):
run the technology, But here we go.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
There.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
We go.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
We brought pictures.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
We got lots of pictures tonight. So if you guys
are watching live, you can see some of our pictures
from the from the show. The house behind it that
is the Geneseo or I can't.

Speaker 8 (08:04):
Pronounce it right, Geneseo Museum.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Geneseo City Museum. They have a really nice collection, So
do stop by. Uh. So, yeah, I just went blank.
Someone helped me out here.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
Well, while you're trying to fill your blank, I'm going
to add that not all of these photos belong to us.
I just want to put that out there. There was
a lot of people taking photos and sharing them with
Jim and they got passed over to us. And so
this is a photo of your shout out to you.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yes, and these are all on our sek Border Town
Paranormal Society Facebook page, so you can go on there
and just cruise through these. Ah. Here's the Geneseo City
Museum logo.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
And if you see a photo on there that is yours,
be sure to let us know so we can give
you credit after the fact.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yep, put it up in the comments and whatever platform
you're watching this on. We had a lot of stuff
shared to the site. So I mean I had a
ball And look look at this motley crew.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
Yes, look at us, all bright eyed and bushy tail
rear in for the weekend. This is before.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
We were, before we left, before we left Wichita with
Enzo and toll Toe.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
This was before we got worn out and exhausted, and
I am definitely starting to feel my age. Travel is
no longer the fun thing that I used to think
it was.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
It was worth it, though, absolutely worth it.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Oh it absolutely was.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
So we got to I like traveling like that and
just driving. I love it.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
I can't do it anymore. I got to sleep in
my own bed. It was a good time. They had
a whole slew of vendors there and it looked like
the the vendor Martian Market I believe they called it.
It was full all the time.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
I mean, yes, there was always people that were over
there shopping and wandering through. And Inzo's friend Mel she
came and she sells. Uh oh l, thank you lady.
She is lady, and she had tons and they were
so cool.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Oh yeah, I had to go browse through and I
got a whole pile of them.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
I think we all bought at least one.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
I got a cool Ouiji board one. I'm hoping I
didn't like summoned Zozo with it swinging around my neck.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, let's hope not. I don't. I don't really
feel like calling for ghostbusters.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
We're the Ghostbusters.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
We have nobody to call, well, if comes after us,
I mean, you only have to outrun me.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
I did like how they had us positioned this year.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I did. Yeah, they had us under the shade trees,
so it wasn't too horrible.

Speaker 7 (11:40):
And I like that they ditched the little teeny tiny
stage and tent with the podium.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yes, yes, that was.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Started something there last year by just go out there
with a crowd.

Speaker 8 (11:56):
Don't need this big fancy thing. Be out there with
the people.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I enjoyed. The crowd was very good with questions. It was.
It was a lot of fun. Uh. Here's another picture
of the front of the museum. Here So and their
UFO band are out. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
They had a nice backdrop to take photos in front of.
And Jess she brought tons of sidewalk chalk and she
did them up a really cool little get artwork there
and there were people all day long taking pictures with
it too.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (12:37):
A quick video of that if we want to watch it.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
Oh yeah, cool, there's a video.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Hm hmmm, just as like a boy.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
See my butt in the air.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
I did not post any pictures of your butt.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
The the knee pad jokes abounded all weekend.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
That music you hear in the background is a UFO
shaped steel drum handpan.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Is what it's called.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Is what it's called. Proofs. It was absolutely The guy
was actually after this. M m hmm. So what was
his name, Dan Man?

Speaker 7 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, at one point he was playing.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Wildlife, Oh yeah, closer and closer.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
He played uh, Barbie Girl. He played under the Sea,
which was really good.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Oh yeah, I mean it was very soothing.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
I have some action shots as it progressed.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
Yep, it was gonna be there was gonna be a
little bit more to it, but I was fighting the sprinkles,
so I just tried to hurry up and get done
what I had. Yeah, and it took a little bit
longer than what I thought. The sidewalk wasn't as clean
as I needed it, so I had to spend some

(14:25):
time degrassing and sweeping. Yeah, but it came out fun.
And then the best part, I mean, I liked doing
the chalk drawings, but the best part is watching the
kids go out there all day long and add their
stuff to it. So I took a picture later on
in the day down the sidewalk, so you can kind

(14:46):
of see all the drawings that people were doing, even
the adults got in on it, so that was fun.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, yep, me.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
Yeah, there's all the vendors.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I had a pretty good market set up. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
There was another line of them back behind there too.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, yep. And down the side where we were.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, So there was just an amazing amount of really
interesting people with all their stories out out and about.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
So people are starting to come in and everyone would
find their spot under the shade tree there. We had
these tables set up for the morning show that we
chatted at.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
There we are.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, we got to speak two different times. The first
time we spoke on UFO flap or the airship flap
I'm sorry of eighteen helped me just ninety six ninety seven,
all right years. And then we spoke on the Kansas

(15:58):
UFO triangle, which he really seemed to enjoy.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah. Of that.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
Rare picture of Jim without his hat on there in
the atom.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
It was that warm.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
It was that warm.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
It's me getting serious about something.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I don't know what I was talking about there, neither
did we.

Speaker 8 (16:21):
I was making it up. There was some bs.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
It was very windy too, and I couldn't keep my
notebooks down for nothing.

Speaker 8 (16:30):
It was the our view of the crowd.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
We had about thirty ish or so folks for that
first one, I think.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, I think we had a few more than that
for the second one, I'm not sure.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
And that shot didn't like tell the whole story. They
spread out clear almost to the street to the side there.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, there was a bunch of people over there too.
There may have been about forty people there at any
given time.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, And there was a lot of people that just
kind of came and went. They come and listened for
a little while and then go shot.

Speaker 8 (17:00):
In that damn map, there's mana.

Speaker 7 (17:06):
Listen to her talk that damn map. He was the
one that wanted the damn map.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
I was made up this map of the nineteen seventy
two UFO flap, the Kansas Triangle there in the western
part of Kansas, and all the red hash marks there
are those are highlighting the areas that all reported sightings
of pretty much the same UFO that entire though.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, i'll spread out over time. That's what I found
amazing about it is because they all pretty much described
the same phenomenon for that whole time period, and it
appears to be the same. One from uh helped me out.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Dighton.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
No before that Delphos, Delfos, it appeared to be fairly similar,
similar to the Delphos siding, and we.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
I kept basically I was being the jerk in the group,
but I was being a stinker. It's like, we really
should have this map, you know, we could at least
I'll hell, I'll walk it around and show the crowd,
because because we didn't have, you know, like a big
screen or any kind of thing to our computers or
anything like that to set up any kind of thing
like that, this was all outside.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
The last minute Walmart.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
And thank you Walmart for yep, thanks to Walmart for
slapping this out pretty quick. And I did exactly that.
When it came to me that part, I literally walked
around amongst the people there so they could see it.
And everybody loved it because the first thing they would
do was they'd look on the map to find.

Speaker 8 (18:46):
Their little town and our art place out of siding.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, this triangle was only about twenty five minutes, wouldn't
you say from from Genesio.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, it's pretty close.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Less even less to the outside edge.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
So I mean shout out, shout out to the Walmart
associate kid who printed this out and gave me the
strangest look as he handed it to me.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, that's funny, poor kid.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
I'm hoping that he wasn't from one of those areas
like he saw it when it came out of the
prison and was like, oh crap.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
But one of my favorite interactions with the folks that
would come up to our little booth that we had
set up there was later in the afternoon to a
young gentlemen like mid to late teens came up and
they had missed all the stuff. They just come in
and it was probably like I don't know, three or

(19:53):
four o'clock in the afternoon, and they I was telling
about what they had missed, you know, what we had
talked about in the morning and what we had talked
about in the afternoon. And I was telling him about
that triangle, you know, from nineteen seventy two, that UFO flap,
and he and we had the map kind of like

(20:14):
sitting up there where everybody could see it, and his
eyes just got like really big as I described some
of the shenanigans that went on that they're in seventy two,
and he points at the map is like I'm from Dighton,
which is the corner of one of the Tryang you know,
the three quoets of the Triangle. And my grandmother used
to tell us this story about how she as she

(20:37):
was a kid, in the back of the car as
they're driving down the highway or down the road rather
the at night, and this giant like cool of light,
just blinding white light covered the entire car and the
road right around him as they were driving, and it
was following. It was like directly over their car as
they were going. You know, they were trying to speed
up and try to get away from it and all that.

(20:58):
And then the story kid, Yeah, and I was pointing
at the map and just like he was.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
Right, she was not making it up. That's pretty similar
to a lot of the stories.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Heard a couple of people say that, Uh, you know,
I've heard stories about that.

Speaker 8 (21:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Even Jim Gray, who hosts the whole thing, was like,
wait a minute, kind of interacts with that.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
You start seeing the gears turn when he started connecting
the dots. Hey, wait a minute. I didn't hear about
these other ones, but mine was about that time.

Speaker 7 (21:34):
Yeah, in situations like that, that remind us that what
we do is important that bringing this information as old
as it is back into the you know, the public
zeitchist is important because people are starting to make those Connectiongany,
they've heard the story when they were little. You poo
poo it away because Grandma's UFO, you know, and then

(21:56):
you hear somebody you don't even know, you know that
for you.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, So with a bunch of other reports to go
along with it, that sounded exactly like Grandma's story. Very cool.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, and there is a ton of those. The phenomenon
in question liked to follow cars around. It would chase
kids around late at night, meeting them back at their
house when they thought they'd lost it.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Yeah, stole a cow.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, And I wanted to I wanted to bring this up.
This is so cool. So I'm in the museum clubhouse.
It's for the guys that produced the documentary Hellier, Greg
and Dana Newkirk and Jess and I and Jennifer had
gone last late last year to show that they had

(22:49):
in Wichita and so, and I'd met someone there in
the audience that I sat next to. Well, she ended
up coming with her husband to Kansas UFO DA and
so she had posted this on the museum page. You know,
she's there representing Hell you're or in the museum, And
I was like, dude, I'm a speaker. I didn't even
it didn't even dawn on me who she was at

(23:09):
the time until we get back. And unfortunately we missed
them because just and I had gone to get something
to eat. But they did talk to Inzo and and
so I was like, yeah, they've just stepped away, you know.
But yeah. I was like, oh, was it the guys
from the museum and he said yeah, yeah, I barely
missed him too.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
That was a bummer, but it was so cool. So
I got to say hey, because I was like, dude,
we're the speakers there. I'm a speaker there. At least
she was nice enough to come back and say, you know, duh.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I know, but I can't wait till next year's show, honestly,
or next year's event. I'm excited. Every year we go.
I always meet lots of really cool people.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
And it's so fun because we learned things when we're
there too. We learned all about a serpent entaglio that
we had absolutely no idea existed, which.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Surprising do what Then, with a little research we found
more that were seemed to be connected.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Unfortunately don't have any pictures of those up on here,
but we hope to do that in the future. I
foresee a road trip with a drone to get some.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
Something.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
All right.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
Something else that happened at the festival I was really
excited about. ZERF ended up playing some of those old
reel de reels of people's experiences from back in the
fifties and sixties.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
And that was pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
Yeah, which they're going to play at the con this
year too.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
So yes, absolutely. So there's there's the Serpent that's near
It's on the uh Geneseo Ridge or Uprising, so it's
not too far from here. It's in the Rice County Museum.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Is that it's it's in Rice County. It's located in
the Lion, the City of Lion Museum, Lion's Museum.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, they've got pictures and we know where it's at.

Speaker 8 (25:27):
We drove right past.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Till that story. That's a wild story.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
The insanity.

Speaker 8 (25:37):
Well, uh, we're driving home. I always follow uh whatever my.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Stupid GPS thing on my phone says to do without
question because it usually takes me where I need to go,
not necessarily where I want to go, but where I
need to be.

Speaker 8 (25:58):
But leaving Genesee, you know there.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
At the top of the page, followed the normal route,
and then it takes us down this other road that
you don't normally go down, more of a straight line shot,
and we get to this weird point and as we're
going past it, well the full story as we encountered it,
we get down to the bottom here where you see
this weird cutout that the bridge was out, the bridge

(26:24):
over dry Creek was out, and it's the name of
the creek there, but it wasn't in my g because
I use ways for my car navigating and there was
nothing in there about you know, a bridge feet out
because it was under construction that giant construction signs that
you can see far off.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
It's like, all right, I guess we'll go this way.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
So we made this weird box shape and it took
us right back to the right, to the other side
of where it was blocked off or the other side
of it.

Speaker 8 (26:57):
So then we just continued south.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
And while after I get home, I started looking up
where is this serpent intagyuo at?

Speaker 8 (27:07):
As it turns out, we drove right past it.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yeah, the road that goes past that property is right there.
If we had known to have looked, we would have
at least seen like the terrain part of it.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
M Yeah, it's crazy the coincidences that happened.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Americans really hate corners until they don't like the Romans.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Well, it was funny because Jess was riding with Enzo
and they left out before Mark and I did, and
we beat them back to the Airbnb, and I was like, Okay,
I know I drive fast, but I don't drive that fast.
I didn't think they weren't too far behind us though,
But yeah, we found out that they had this whole
little sided side quest.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
Take a trip through a wormhole there. We were making
all the jokes and we're like, okay, what time is it.
We're gonna have missing time. I don't see any like
biplanes in the air, zeppelins, I don't see any futuristic
Whippi ships.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
We haven't gone through a time skip.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
We went through the whole bastion of wacky things that
can happen when you leave the the path well traveled.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Yeah, I'm telling you. We were on some like old
like just farming red dirt roads that will only have
like a single car on it because you can't get
you know, two through. It's big enough for a tractor.
And I was just like, wow, if you start hearing
some crazy fiddle music, let's turn around.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
Step on the gas or turn around.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
Yeah, I was. I made a joke. There was cows everywhere,
and even they looked like we weren't supposed to be there.
They were like, what do you guys?

Speaker 8 (28:51):
There was a vehicle driving back.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
Yeah, we had no idea we'd driven past that. It
wasn't even kind of on our minds. Jim had kind
of mentioned it, and I think all of us kind
of logged it away as like that doesn't sound.

Speaker 8 (29:07):
We'll investigate that when we get home on the internet.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
And then as it turns out, we literally were right
beside day.

Speaker 7 (29:16):
We were right beside it.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's not it's not far at all. So yeah, I
foresee another research trip, possibly a multi day research trip,
because there's several in Sedwate County that we found out about.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
This is so nuts because between the four people that
you see on your screen right here, I cannot believe
not a single one of us knew about this, or
any of them because you know, I we do so
much research, and I'm huge into archaeology. Just you know,
she grew up with a grandpa that was a geologist
and you know, did all these things and traveled everywhere,

(29:54):
and he drilled things into her, you know, to know
of the area. And it's just when we got home,
that first thing we did was started pulling books that
we have on our show home. No oh, no, Jess
was on the iPad. Immediately on the way home.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
I was just reading it, just reading it out to
them so they could hear it.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
So we're freaking out, Oh my god, when I sent
you that and that, what did you think when I
sent you that map?

Speaker 8 (30:20):
It's like, we literally drove past this.

Speaker 7 (30:22):
Thing by the time we got to that point, because
we just ran into so many weird red flags doing
the research on the way home. Every time I found
a new article, it brought up stuff that just kind
of messed with what we know so much that by
the time you sent it that as that it was
just the cherry on top.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
It was just we were all our minds were already
splattered all over the inside of I had no doubt.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
Yeah, the entire trip home, we were just flabbergasted. That's
our flabbers were gasted.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
We were literally still talking about it when we got
back to town.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yeah, for sure, three and a half hours later, because
we were like, Okay, the first thing I'm gonna do
after I unload everything in the house, I'm pulling my
books because I know I have a book on Kansas
Rock Art. I know I have a book. You know,
I've got Gloria Farley's In Plain Sight, which Gloria Farley
is the lady that started the original research on the

(31:25):
heaven Or runestone down in heaven Or, Oklahoma, and she
kind of branched it out from there. The more people
found out she was interested, the more she got into
the stories, and she got to people would bring things
to her and say, hey, what do you think of this,
and hey, there's petrock Glyph's over here.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
So she ends up spending the rest of her life
dedicating it to this, basically to going to all these places.
She got in with Barry Fell, which he wrote America BC,
which talked about European visitors to the United States, to
the continent before Columbus. Basically, so there's all kinds of

(32:06):
stuff and for this not to be included in her
book blows me away. Because she wrote the book in
the eighties, I believe, I don't remember exactly the publication date,
but she was well deep within the research in the
eighties and this was this, this had been rediscovered. What
did we see nineteen thirteen or nineteen.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
Oh three, nineteen thirteen.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Nineteen thirteen, and then the Smithsonian did know about it
because they were investigator or they were doing some archaeological digs.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
They they were working on the mounds and the Wigwam sites.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Which were only what two miles away something.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
It wasn't very It was literally like right there, this
I was telling Pam. I just thought it was completely laughable.
I have a lot of the geological and archaeological books
that date back to that time. In fact, I have
one fantastic one that's called the Archaeology of the Great Plains,
and it's literally all of the stuff they have found

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over the years across the Great Plains area, and frankly,
that should be in there. If there is an intaglio,
just one within that area, it should have been talked about.
And they literally talk about all the work the Smithsonian
did right there and.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Didn't go look at it.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
No, they didn't touch it. And we actually found an
article online on the way home that stated that the
Smithsonian did know about it, but they didn't think it
was worth mention.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, they didn't think it was worth going to look
at look at.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
This because it wasn't it wasn't really properly investigated from
an archaeological sense to like the eighties, right, yeah.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
Correct when someone deigned to do.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
It, yeah, Nebraska.

Speaker 8 (33:55):
Yeah, Well he had seen it.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
He had been down if I recall, right, hadn't he
been down when the Smithsonian was investigating, and he had
seen it and he wanted to check into it. And
that's why it got uh researched in the first place.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
He was interested in the serpent Moun's out in Ohio
and was like, you know, there's one of these in
Kansas too, and so yeah, that's kind of what got
him on the way. And then we found just found
something on the way home.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
What was it?

Speaker 4 (34:28):
What was he called the man? The start with a
p oh pizarrow mana something the name of the town.

Speaker 7 (34:41):
Yeah, it was a complete entaglio man made of one
hundred stones.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Yeah, sounds like the great planes should be hidden in
the Smithsonian Archive.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
There's a flyover place.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
The name of the museum in Lions is the Coronado
I can't remember the name of the tribe that became
the Wichita.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
Tribe Quavera, the.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Cornado Quavera museum, because apparently Coronado spent time with these
people when he was coming through the Great Plains. So wow.
The the antaglia itself is only about six hundred years
old or seven hundred, so it's not.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
We didn't really define Maybe not every one of the
audience knows what an antaglio is.

Speaker 8 (35:36):
Maybe we should describe them.

Speaker 7 (35:38):
Oh, so it's a geoglyph. It's basically like when you
think of like the Ohio the Great Serpent Mound, it's
the big mounded up area that's shaped like a snake. Well,
an antaglio is the exact reverse of that. Instead of
it being mounded up and created, it's dug out and created.
So the entire snake it looks like it's it's supposed

(36:01):
to be eating an egg in its mouth.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yes, whoever that, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
It's dug down. I think they said about a foot
and a half is how deep it sets. And the
interesting thing about intaglios is as you can see here.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
So.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
There's a pickup.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
This here isn't a good representation. So this picture was
from the gentleman who first started working on it. He
filled it in with lime, I believe white lime, so
that it could be yeah, so it could be really
visible and they could really photograph it well from above
to get the true shape of it. The interesting thing

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about these antaglios in the planes that we've been finding,
we found out there's actually some caterpillars and birds and
some other stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
They're planted in with a very different grass than what
is outside of it. It's full of buffalo grass. It's
a very thin whisky yeah, yeah, native grass. And because
of that, nothing else kind of grows in there. It's
a very thick rooted grass, so it kind of keeps
its shape that way when it doesn't have weeds and

(37:16):
other things pulling.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
There's wild onions growing out of the egg.

Speaker 7 (37:21):
Yeah, the big circle is nothing but wild onion that
was purposely planted there. So I'm still trying to dig
into the history of it. Like like they said, we're
going to have to make a trip just to the
museum just some.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Research and of egg shaped So that's probably intentional.

Speaker 7 (37:40):
Maybe I don't know, food crop.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
So yeah, the egg is supposedly, according to the experts,
supposed to represent uh plenty the plenty of nature and
that sort of thing. And then by planting onions in
it a food crop that are kind of that shape,
there's got to be something there.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yeah. What I was reading last night is the basic
part of it is it's it's basically like a marker.

Speaker 8 (38:09):
It's the mouth.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Part is like pointing towards those other uh talking about Yeah,
and uh, basically it's an indicator of water and like
food or that way kind of the thing.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Yeah, but it can only be seen from the air, which.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Is Yeah, the interesting part Ian said, looks rather like
the hill figures in the UK that date back thousands
of years.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
It does, really does.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
We're so super excited because we're like, you know, we've
always been like, yeah, Kansas is cool, but we don't
have cool things like this, you know, And now to
find out we do and.

Speaker 8 (38:41):
We have, and who knew we did.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I already have a drone in my Amazon account so
we can investigate some.

Speaker 8 (38:50):
Of these first tomorrow, buddy.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
It does, but unfortunately I've I've been off work for
a week, so it'll have to wait for another week
or two.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
It was called the Pinnicky Stoneman.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Pinnicky that was it.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
I'll seeing if I couldn't pull up a picture of
it or something.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Some of the pictures that I saw a lot that's
not UFO related.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Yeah, you are almost like a like a side conversation
that Jim kind of threw out there of just you know,
there's a lot of mysterious stuff around here.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
Uh, and all four of us are like, it's a
what where is this?

Speaker 7 (39:36):
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to get it
off here.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Stop watch us struggle with technology.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
Oh yeah, it's it's fabulous, Okay.

Speaker 8 (39:55):
And then you found it all right, oh my.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
God, Oh here we go.

Speaker 7 (40:05):
Oh yeah, you found it. I couldn't get my phone
to work. So that's the Pinnicky Man. I didn't even
know about him either.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
And he's in such a square fashion.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Yeah, let me scroll down. No, that's it.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
So, yeah, it says. The Pinnikey stone Man is a
sixty foot by thirty foot limestone cobble outline in the
shape of a man, situated on a high ridge overlooking
the south fork of the Solomon River in Graham County.
The stone man lays with outstretched arms and legs, staring

(40:46):
up at the heavens. At present, it is the only
known stone human effigy in Kansas, although many similar to
it are found in the Northern Plains region. Others in
Kansas may have been destroyed as the land was cultivated
and used for farming. The first written account of the
Stoneman from a euro American came in eighteen seventy nine,

(41:07):
when Professor S. W. Williston, an explorer sent by the
Peabody Museum in Connecticut, happened upon the site and wrote
about it in the Kansas City Review of Science and Industry.
His account seems to describe the Pinnikey Stoneman, even though
his sketch appears a bit different than our modern day drawings.
In nineteen eighty two, the Pinikey Stoneman was admitted to

(41:28):
the National Register of Historic Places because of its uniqueness
and its importance to telling our nation's history. So there
we go, don't even know about that.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Not only did we speak, we actually learned while we
were there in time, and now we have a hole
lot of worms to investigate.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Yes, yeah, that's exactly like Okay, we see a deep
dive in our future on something like.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
This, because while it's not necessarily fringy, we do like
lost history. So I foresee sometime in the very near
future us returning to our our lost history and hidden history.

Speaker 7 (42:16):
I actually think it's very fringy because why would you
need to create something that big that you can only
be seen from the sky at a time when you
go that's that's true.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
And in the middle of the plains, it's not like
it could be looked over off of a mountain or something,
because there's nothing. There's nothing there.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
It is right.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
We were a flyover state even before what was flying over?
What did they see in the sky? And so that
there's a mirage near there that is reoccurring, Yes, near Geneseo, Geneseo.

(42:58):
I'm sorry, I'm butchering the language and the name of
the town. Gym is going to come.

Speaker 7 (43:08):
What was that place called? It was the Geneseo What
Geneseo Ridge or Uprising ridge?

Speaker 4 (43:14):
It was the ridge. It was a great great was
it the great Plains Uprising or something great grand? I
don't remember.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
It was the Geneseo uh or Great Plains, Geneseo Ridge
or something like that. It's a tectonic for formation if
I recall correctly.

Speaker 7 (43:40):
Yeah, it's supposed to be covered in uh, petrick lifts,
and which isn't odd for Kansas. Kansas is full of
petrick lifts. We have some very near us. We've got
council rock and stuff like that. So something else I
would love to see the problem with Kansas is a

(44:03):
lot of these sites. No, the public don't ever get
to see because they're all on private property. People people
in Kansas just tend to keep to themselves and they
don't open a lot for the public to see. So
you get to another state and you find something interesting
like that, and they'll slap a you know, and a

(44:23):
gift shot by it, and then anybody is free to
come by and see it. But in Kansas, they just
don't do it.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
No, they don't. They don't want the notoriety, the great
band aspect.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
That's what I was trying to think of. Ah, there's
that plus and then the Geneseo upheaval ridge or uprising
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
So that's why I'm I'm thinking about investing in the drone.
I can in range from the road side there to
get some good photos.

Speaker 7 (44:58):
I hope are allowed to the which I just bought
that they did get it shot down.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah, they just last year. Yeah, but there was something
that we were reading on. They are wanting to. Uh
it sounds like make an educational situation out of it,
so hopefully they want it.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
They do.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
They'll do that for more than just the tribe.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Because of the shot and it looks like there's other
figures nearby. I just need to be kind of covered.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
I guess Ian said, Wow, I never knew you guys
had hill figures like that, almost like the Long Man
of Wilmington or cern Abbess.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
We didn't know.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
You didn't know either.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, And the reason why so many have disappeared is
because the stones they use are just right for using
in a foundation.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
And a lot of the if you're if you don't
have a trained eye, you may not realize what they are.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Using my fire. Yeah, so a lot of them just disappeared.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I know there's another intaglio of a serpent in Kansas,
and the majority of it has been gone due to
agricultural pursuits. It's like there's only a third of it left.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (46:22):
It's crazy stuff. Had no idea, We had a very
shocking drive home. Every time I thought I'd seen it all,
I'd find another article and be like, wait a minute,
wait a minute, listen to this.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
And wait a minute, wait a minute. Earnest, he's got
the same name you have, Pam. I was like, oh,
I had no idea.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
It was definitely a rewarding trip for both aspects of
the trip.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
It was it was and we got an opportunity. Some
of the questions that were asked. One of them was,
what have you guys been up to that's extremely interesting
in the last year or so and we so we
did talk a little bit about ghost hunting and and
some of those things on top of everything else. But
the main focus was UFOs, so we got to share

(47:12):
a lot with that, and Izzo is our resident experts
so we deferred back to him on quite a few
things for clarification.

Speaker 8 (47:21):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
There were a lot of a lot of these questions,
a lot of it having to do with the things
we just taught. Usually whenever we do any kind of
talk or anything like that, then people would like even
though we allowed, you know, we we specifically slot time
out at the end of any one of our talks
is ask whatever question do you want?

Speaker 8 (47:41):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Some people get embarrassed still and stuff like that, but
they would make a b line for our little, uh,
little display that we had set up there, and they're like,
what about this?

Speaker 8 (47:51):
Have you ever heard of this? You know that?

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yes, it was still questions and stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (47:58):
It was. It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
And that's actually my favorite part of anything like that
is just talking to the people.

Speaker 8 (48:05):
You know what I say, I already know it. It's
it's boring to me. You know.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Maybe people will get a chuckle out of my when
I half assed jokes or something like that, but I
like hearing what other people have observed and seen themselves,
and honestly to give them that platform. I mean, today
you know UFOs and today it's a it's a little different.

Speaker 8 (48:26):
It's a little easier.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
To kind of be open about that kind of thing.
But in that kind of environment, bring it on. We
want to hear all of it. I want to hear
all of it. At least I don't stuck out into
all you guys. But it's I love hearing other people's
experiences and what their thoughts on it are well.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
And that's one of the reasons why we host our
para con every year is to get people together like
that and have these discussions, which is by the way,
I'm going to shameless plug right here, yah yay, Saturday, Denver,
twenty seventh. Then Kneie, Kansas. If you're in the area

(49:06):
and have time to come out Badertown Para Con right
here in Kane, Kansas. Everybody has a good time. It's
a laid back it's a laid back environment, and we've
got lots of fun things going on, raffles, We've got panels, presentations, workshops.

(49:30):
It's just a really good, really good time and it's
an opportunity for you to come share your stories or
ask did I really see what I think I saw? Yeah,
And if.

Speaker 7 (49:41):
You're not in the area, we throw them up live
on YouTube and our Facebook page. So and in fact,
if you're interested, all of last years and the years
before that are up on our Facebook page. If you
scroll back through our wall a few years, you're going
to find all of it. You go back and watch
all old panel last year's.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Last years were on YouTube for sure, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
And you can actually hear last year's. We invested in
some some sound equipment that made it a little better.
We'll try to make it better this year.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Going back to Geneseo though, the museum itself, it's really
fun because when you walk in, it's so unassuming. You
go inside and you're just like Jess said earlier, it's
it's really a mixture of the forties, fifties, sixties, you know,
Americana basically. And I know there's the doctor's name. His
his name was Elmer Janssen, and he was a super

(50:41):
interesting dude. He was into everything. He had so many interests.
He was a ventriloquist, so there's some ventriloquist stummies. He
actually I think he was a chiropractor.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Am I right?

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Inzo on that?

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yes he was a medical doctor and a chiropractor and.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Yes, and he path yespbopathic studies yep.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
And he wrote in Burrell there was he was able
to do that. He collected French bulldogs, which was pretty cool.
And then on top of his collections, there's also Geneseo
city history, lots of stuff from their high school and
just it's everything.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
They have every yearbook since nineteen twelve or whenever it
was when they opened the school there. You know, granted,
you know, the first few you know, first few years
there was only like two students that graduating because there
were only two students. But they have their yearbook photos
for every year that they've had a school in that town.

Speaker 7 (51:45):
And you can see a picture of Jim when he
was a senior.

Speaker 8 (51:49):
Yeah, yes, it's adorable.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
He was fine.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
If you can go our our YouTube channel, I posted
raw footage of our walk through, yes two years ago, yep, yep,
so you can go through there and get kind of
an idea what's in the museum. It is an awesome spot.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
Yeah, in the UFO room. You want to run in
there and like rip stuff off the wall and run
with it so you can decorate your own house.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yes, the coolest copies.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
That space dog hair is what you want.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Oh yeah, I absolutely love that they have in their
possession the original AT and T switchboard container or whatever
you want to call it, like the instrument package for it,

(52:47):
which is this. It's like almost the size of like
a your stand up arcade kind of a you know, cabinet,
just the you know, the old stayed wood with you know,
the fabric venting and stuff like that, and they're loaded
with tubes on the end there and you know, you
can see where they had to take the wire and
physically connected in here and then connect the other end

(53:09):
to the linkage to some other house or wherever. And
it's I think it had like twelve or sixteen lines
or something like that.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
It wasn't back at the thing, Yeah it was.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
It was very small for what it was, but for
you know, for that area, that was like a bit
stepped into the twentieth century with this, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Right, it was pretty awesome. So yeah, on our YouTube.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Channel, it's got a whole bunch of really technical drawings
by a gentleman named John Dean. He was from oh
I just lost the name of the little town Nickerson, Kansas,
which is very close to Geneseo. And he was an engineer.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
And drafting teacher, wasn't he.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
Yes, he was an engineer. He was a drafting teacher.
I think he taught in hutch for a time as well,
And so he had the chops to make these really
detailed oriented drawings, and yeah, he made some really cool ones.
And he had like the little drawings of like what
he said were the vehicles that they used on Mars

(54:20):
and you know, different places. But and he actually wrote
a book called Trips to Mars, and it's got a
little bit longer title than that, but it's really neat.
They have some really cool fifties sixties books that were
written on UFOs. And like Enzo said, there's the the

(54:41):
dog hair from two different dogs. One was named King
and one was named Queenie. They were supposed to have
been brought back from Mars and gifted to what's his name,
I'm losing his name, Buck Nelson, Yes, to Buck Nelson,
and who ended up living in Mountain View, Arkansas or

(55:04):
Missouri is Missouri. Can't remember losing it's been a while
I've looked at this specific information, but yeah, he was.
He actually started UFO festivals at his hometown at that time,
and and uh, Doc Jansen went, that's how they got acquainted.
And he said they originally started visiting him because they

(55:25):
would get water. They would land their ships and get
water from his spring. And Doc Jansen actually had there's
in the museum a bottle of spring water from that
particular spring, and you know, there's a decent amount of
it has has gone away, but it's still there and
you can see it, and like there's the dog hare
is there, and there's just tons and tons of pictures

(55:49):
and all these drawings and just you don't it's the
last thing you would expect to see such a cool,
cool collection in a small museum like that, but it's
just blows you away.

Speaker 8 (56:02):
Yeah, this one lone guy made.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
Basically he had a couple of guys that were helping
a little bit, especially like you know in the artwork
department that some of those drawings that are up on
the wall are so technically precise of you know, motherships
and even like the stuff of like the solar system
and things like that that they have up on the wall.

Speaker 8 (56:24):
It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
But basically it was this one guy, Doc Jansen, that
would he'd read a story about how somebody saw something
weird fly over their you know, hover over their field,
and he would like write them a letter. Because you know,
your fifties sixties, not everybody out there in the rural
areas even had a phone much less you know, a

(56:48):
TV or radio or anything else, so a lot of
times he had to drive out there to actually talk
to him.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
I remember having a party line in the seventies.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Yeah, you were fancy if you had a phone back then.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Yeah, So in the fifties and sixties in rural America,
having a phone line was not really super duper common, yep.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
So he's absolutely for.

Speaker 8 (57:18):
Him to go.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
I'm really anxious to hear, you know, like in detail,
because I didn't really get a chance to closely listen
to some of the recordings they played.

Speaker 8 (57:26):
But you know, he had an old reel.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
To reel tape recorder that he would bring along and
interview some of these people the things that they saw
and what they experience and all of that. You know,
he was a genuine UFO investigator that would go. You know,
in the fifties, you know, with you know, no computers,
there was no place to look things up at the

(57:50):
snap of a finger, like on your phone or anything
like that. The phone itself was probably very little information
there because not everybody had him. Because of course, these
things land out in the middle of nowhere, so you'd
usually write letters and find out exactly where they were
and if it was worth investigating it. So this is

(58:10):
all taking like weeks and weeks to happen for round
trip letters to make it out there and back and
then have for him to drive out there and see
what was going on.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Right, and one of the things I enjoy about it
is the look into the Ufo culture of the day,
because a lot of these tales, when you give to
looking at them, they're very fanciful.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
M So, if these stories aren't made up by the
people who told the story, then that means that they
were being.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Told the story from the visitors, which I have heard that.
I mean, why would you trust somebody that you know
showed up on a fly. They're not going to tell
you what they're really up to. They're going to tell
you what the what you think you want to hear.

(59:12):
So even if these stories were made up, I not
necessarily all of them were made up by the people
who were accused of making them up. I think a
lot of these stories were, if true, or fed to
them by others, I don't know who. Whether they could

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have been the men in Black for all I know.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Maybe so. This book right here, it was written by
John dene and this picture on the front of it
is one of the drawings that he did of one
of the vehicles that were driven around Mars, and I wish,
I don't know if I have a better picture of it.
This is from our trip a last year, like a
year and a half ago the first time we went

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to the museum. And right here you can see there's
the hair of the dog Space dog, the little space dog. Oh,
that's a nice upside down one. Yeah, there's King the
dog from the planet.

Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
Yeah. A lot of the stories from back in that
time frame.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Uh, A lot of them involved, you know, these craft
setting down somewhere and occupants getting out that looked very
similar to humans and maybe with some odd facial quirks
or something like that, and a lot of them were
offered free rides back then. That seemed to be a
common theme for a lot of encounters or some kind

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of like really basic barter thing for like some.

Speaker 8 (01:00:49):
Water out of their well or some kind of like
plants or something like that. Yeah, there's the story, what was.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
It up in Michigan where the guy gave him some
water and they gave him like these.

Speaker 8 (01:01:01):
Little crappy uh oh the pancakes. Pancakes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's funny in an exchange. And there's a
little booklet here that's in Blue My Trip to Mars,
the Moon and Venus that Buck Nelson wrote and he
used to sell them at his h UFO conventions. I
think for like a dollar fifty. You can actually find
them online now in PDF form and they're pretty fascinating.

(01:01:27):
And while we were at Geneseo this last weekend, I
don't recall who was telling us, but there's an artist
that has done a graphic novel off of this book
and there for sale. He just got him up on Amazon.
They're nine dollars for twenty six page booklet, and I
had enough Amazon points on my stuff to get one,

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so I grabbed it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to get that form my collection.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Yeah, I can't wait. It looks really cool, and there's
the water that came from the spring.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Is really interesting about this spring water. You know, there's
no sediment in the bottom and you don't really see
a lot of lines in the bottle where it's evaporated,
so it's got to be pretty clean water.

Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
Yeah, Because that bottle of water is how old?

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Oh it's from there, Yeah, from like fifty some Yeah,
so you would.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Think there would be some sediment settled out in there,
and when you look at I can't see anything.

Speaker 8 (01:02:34):
It's at least seventy five years old, So there's there
and it's just clean as could be.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
I love the story of buck Nelson too, because he
claimed that when they landed, they zapped him, and he
was known to have really bad arthritis, so he was
kind of crippled up, and he claimed when they zapped him,
all the pain went away and he was able to
walk find and people in Mountain View confirmed, yeah, he
was fine after that, and he always said that they

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had promised to come back and take him back with them.
And at one point, as the years go by, he
starts getting crippled up again and he gets really depressed
and says, you know, I don't I don't think they're
coming back for me. And then not too long after that,
his house mysteriously burns down, and then, uh, they lose

(01:03:24):
track of buck Nelson. There was the thought that he
had gone to California, but no one's ever found any records.
They haven't found burial records or social security records or anything,
even though he had a pension, So nobody really knows
what happened to him. So maybe they did come back
and get him.

Speaker 8 (01:03:43):
Who knows if they did.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Maybe they did.

Speaker 8 (01:03:47):
I wouldn't I wouldn't wouldn't mind a little little zap
for some of my joints as well to be.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
It would be handy. There's Jim, yeah, all left. Yeah,
and if you look back behind Jim, you can see
some of the drawings.

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
That John and to be fair and to be fair
to Jim, that is how he's always dressed.

Speaker 8 (01:04:14):
That is not like some weird costume or something working.
That is Jim Gray.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
He's a cool dude, yep, very humble, very unassuming. He's
an awesome, awesome, awesome and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
He's very excited about the local history. So I mean he.

Speaker 8 (01:04:33):
He's certainly learned us a few things, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
So it's very very interesting. Uh, it's a very interesting
look at at nineteen fifties and sixties UFO culture, which
when you go back and look at some of the
movies from that time where they talk about UFOs like
the Day of the Year Stood Still. When you look

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back at all this, it helps you understand the thought
processes behind some of those movies and books. So it's definitely, uh,
it's definitely worth your time, even if if that's your
only reason. So, and there's quite a collection of stuff.

(01:05:24):
I did find out buck Nelson's book. You can actually
find it reprint of that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Uh yeah, there's a of it online. Too.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Yeah, you can actually buy a copy on Amazon.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Oh, you can get a PDF two and it's not
on the for free. Yeah, and it's not a I like,
it's not a bad sight. It's it's one that has
the ability to redo those without getting in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Right. I love the new print on demand stuff that
you know, they can take some of these out of
print books and you can order them and Amazon prince
him on demand.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Oh, here's the picture of Jim. Hang on, we pull
this back up. It's got his high school picture along
with it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
H that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
There he is.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
Yeah, good ahead, good looking dude.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Yeah, handsome looking dude.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
He is a gym. Jim is a gym.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
He is. He is a darn fine individual. I've got
to say yes.

Speaker 7 (01:06:44):
And he works way too hard.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Yes, he does, he does. He works a lot harder
than I do, that's for sure. I worked six days
a week. He works pretty much seven.

Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
He's in an eighth day, I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Yeah, he probably eats an eighth day. I don't know. Probably.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
And there is something that's fun here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
There she is.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Oh, there is spam Champ, the Spam cupcake Lady. Her
name was a Seales Schmidt and she actually won in
two thousand the National Best Spam Recipe Award out of
like fourteen hundred other recipes and her yeap, her recipe
was featured on ten million Kansas spam.

Speaker 7 (01:07:34):
And she was, yeah, just so y'all don't get too
grossed out at home. It's not a sweet cupcake. It's
a meat cake. And the frosting on top is mashed potatoes.

Speaker 8 (01:07:47):
Yeah, okay, now it's delicious.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Right, it's a meal, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
It's yeah, it's like a little it's like a meat pie. So,
because when I first saw it and I saw those
pictures of the cupcakes up there, I just was like, seriously,
it's like those weird grandmas who used to put vegetables
in the jello molds.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Yeah, she does that, and I'm going to hey, that
doesn't sound bad.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
They didn't have the recipe there, the specific recipe, I
don't think, but I did find it online and it
was confirmed by one of her by her daughter that
it was her recipe. Pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
Yeah, always visit little small town museums, Pam, and I
always preach that to everyone. If you are out on
a road trip and you go through a little town,
stop in and see their little museum if they have one,
because the best stuff is in those little small town museums.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
You don't want to forget your your your past. And
these little, these little snippets of small town America are fantastic.
They really are.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Oh there's the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Dog. Yep, you can see the you can see my
backside there, and you can see the Ventriloquisite dummies in
the back there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
Oh yeah, over here. I don't know if I got
a better picture of them in here or not.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
I'll stop showing my butt.

Speaker 8 (01:09:18):
I was thinking about it today. I was just so
busy doing other stuff. I never even went inside.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
The museum this neither and normally I do. And I
can kicking myself that I didn't get in there.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
I did get in there. I go buy a T shirt,
and unfortunately I just left my T shirt money in
the donation deal because they didn't have one big enough
for me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Oh and I love this SONGAIPS Welcome. There used to
be a UFO club that was based out of Hutcheson,
I believe, but they would drive around with this sign
in the back of their vehicles, hoping to catch the
eye of there was supposed to be at least three
aliens living among the population in that area at that time,

(01:10:04):
and they wanted to let them know, you know, hey,
we're friendly. And then somebody made mention of maybe they
weren't all friendly, and so people started taking them out
of their vehicles just in case they didn't want to
make their self a target.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Well, I think that they probably aren't all friendly.

Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
Honestly, we got good people, we got bad people.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Yase their pictures from last year.

Speaker 7 (01:10:32):
We should also say, now if you go to the museum,
you'll get to see something that we donated.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
That's true, Yes, it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
So we did like a little like folder booklet of
all of the artwork from the airship flap from nineteen
ninety six through ninety seven. All the art work were
together and we put it in a folder for them
so they can have it there. And Jim was going
to put it in the UFO room, so that'll be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
There was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Yeah, we found a ton of pictures just did the
picture find in mostly and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Yeah, there is a bunch of really good ones. Well,
they were in all the newspapers all over the country
at the time.

Speaker 7 (01:11:13):
Yeah, and they're so fun, so fun propellers and really
gigs and do dads flying everywhere. It's great stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
I didn't remember you running across, but I know I've
run across a story where someone had one of these
contraptions flying over their town and they dropped an anchor,
a physical anchor, out onto the ground to try and
like stop, I guess, and it didn't quite stop. It
kind of drugged through a couple of buildings and knots

(01:11:44):
of olp fencing down and.

Speaker 8 (01:11:46):
They just pulled it back up and was like, yeah,
it's not gonna work.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
Well, there was there was so many stories we couldn't
possibly tell them all, I mean, and there were some
funny ones too. There was one I found out of Missouri,
I believe, and they said that they came down to
stop because they were so hungry they hadn't eaten in
a while. The people aboard the ship and they the

(01:12:13):
person who was writing it said they made them some
sandwiches and they didn't even say thank you. They just
took them and left. They were like, they just came
down and took my sandwiches and then left.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Rude, Hi, Sylvain, what's the mat?

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
So so many silly ones, but yeah, like we were
talking about when we did the when we were doing
the panel. So many of them are very silly, but
so many of them are very much a UFO encounter,
metal sides and discs and great lights and strange sounds
or no sounds, and the OZ effect along with it.

Speaker 8 (01:12:54):
So yeah, the zipping away a part of it as well.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
It's just you know, if it's a zeppelin from some
backyard scientists that's whipped this up in the garage, it's
not zipping anywhere, and it's gonna be fifteen or twenty
miles an hour.

Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
That's amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:13:17):
Yeah, So so many of those, but a lot of
funny ones too. If you're interested in it, you should.
You should totally check it out at home. Just go
and look it up. You'll find some fantastic stories and photos.
I was glad that that it runs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
The whole gamut of Yeah, of anything anybody says about
these stories is probably true for at least part of
the stories. There's obviously some that look like somebody may
have actually seen a working airship or somebody's attempt at it,
And then there's some of them that are obviously just

(01:13:53):
made up. And then there's some of them the ones
that I'm really interested in are the ones that sound
like a modern UFO siding. Yeah, and those are the
ones that I find interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:14:08):
Yeah, speaking about maybe next year we'll do crop circles
of Kansas.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
That's good because there's been a few and we got
lots of crops put circles in.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Yeah, that's true. That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
That's an interesting study. Our wheat fields or cornfields better
for crop circles.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
I don't know, inquiring which kind is that fools Lulasando
into thinking they're giant saucers casting a shadow.

Speaker 7 (01:14:42):
Oh lord.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Oh, anyway, it was a fun time. I recommend anybody
interested who's in Kansas or actually from where where Genescio is.
You can come easily from Colorado or Nebraska is right

(01:15:11):
dead center in the middle of Kansas. Nebraska's probably easier
to come. You wouldn't have to drive any farther than
we did, No, three and a half hours. Yeah, so
it's right there.

Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
It's pretty centrally placed.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
It is. It's a fun time, and like I said,
it's for a good cause. These little museums need our
help as much as we can give them, because, honestly,
as silly as we get sometimes we're all really into
history and I hate to see all this small town history.

(01:15:46):
Just go away.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
So and if nothing else, just go to meet Jim.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Local museum.

Speaker 7 (01:15:58):
Yeah, call beforehand and set up a tour. You are
more than likely to get Jim. He will be the
one that's doing it. So and tell him we said hi, Yeah,
we sent.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
You absolutely before we leave the local museum.

Speaker 7 (01:16:14):
Before we leave, you need to show him our last picture,
because we showed them our leaving picture, our last group picture.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
Oh from the house.

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
For the house or from the restaurant.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
Well, and as far as Jim goes, he will be
at the Para Con this year presenting the recordings and
things like that, so you can you can catch you
in a couple of places.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
This was actually our last picture.

Speaker 8 (01:16:44):
Yeah, and for some.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Reason, I look like I have a broken neck. I
don't know why I'm doing that.

Speaker 8 (01:16:53):
Omelet is what I look.

Speaker 7 (01:16:55):
I'm holding on to the table because I'm sliding off
my seat. I was trying to get centered in to
the shots, so Inzo had room and I was about
ready to fall over. You can't really tell it here,
but we are all exhausted.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
We're so tired, and we have just eaten a huge breakfast. Yeah,
I didn't need to eat the rest of the day.

Speaker 8 (01:17:23):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
I was thank you Ian, I need that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
Wow, that's hilarious and not far off the mark.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Hey, we didn't sing this time, which is probably good
for everybody. Yeah, it's like, yeah, absolutely, just like abba.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
On the way home from where did we go?

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Mark?

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
We were Pithy and Castle in Missouri, and we had
someone else writing with us that's not in our team,
but she's also a paranormal investigator. She was playing on
her phone and Mark and I again sang the entire
way home and neither one of us can carry it
to so she's not gotten in a vehicle with us
since then. It's it is sad, but it's hilarious because

(01:18:29):
I get it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:33):
Too funny.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Yeah, it was pretty bad. It was bad.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
She swears that's not the reason, but we're like, we're
pretty sure. And there was the cutest little dog that
was running around with the alien on its back.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Oh, we did not get a picture of him her.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
Yeah that picture somewhere, yep.

Speaker 7 (01:19:00):
I posted it on the on the Facebook post.

Speaker 8 (01:19:03):
I got a bunch of pictures of it.

Speaker 7 (01:19:07):
There was actually a couple of dogs like that. There's
a little one and there was a bigger one.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Oh I didn't see the little one.

Speaker 8 (01:19:15):
Oh not fine, my shared screen.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Sure she.

Speaker 8 (01:19:24):
Was the shirt on the gentleman on the right. Here
it was the owner of this dog.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Already I'm a little jealous.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:19:42):
Yeah, that's half the fun of this festival. People dress
up and they bring their pets all dressed up.

Speaker 8 (01:19:49):
I got so many compliments on my shirt everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:19:52):
Yeah, well, your shirt's great, and so is Mark. Some
Mark's shirt's awesome too, yea. And people like the So
there's a parade after the festival and people bring their
parade floats up theah. There's one of them there with
the dinosaur and the alien, so you get to see
those and people are all dressed up and alien costumes

(01:20:12):
and sparkly things. It's so much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
They have a lot of fun with I mean, it's
just amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
There's the sidewalk, a little bit of the sidewalk here that.

Speaker 8 (01:20:32):
All the way down to the front door.

Speaker 7 (01:20:34):
Really yay, which was the point. Man throw some chalk
out for free and people will eventually just start doodling.
And they had all sorts of fun sayings down there,
somebody put I want to believe and yeah, all sorts
of great stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Yeah, it was pretty fascinating and just everybody had on.
We may have had a little too much fun.

Speaker 7 (01:21:07):
That's trying to all fit in the screen. That's hilarious.
We're terrible at taking selfies.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Yeah, and so, how tall are you?

Speaker 8 (01:21:23):
Five eleven?

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
Yeah? I'm five to two. So Inso is like he's
got the longest arm. He's taking the pictures, and we're like,
scoot in and you might have to dug down a
little bit because you look like you're like what up here.

Speaker 7 (01:21:36):
At one point she was like, why are you guys
bending down?

Speaker 8 (01:21:40):
Yes exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
We were all like you, we don't know, that's why
you're there.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
The problem we don't know what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
There we go, we don't know what we're doing.

Speaker 7 (01:21:57):
And Inso's face is like, look, who I got stuck?

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
What is this.

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Oh god, there is not enough all in the world
to get through this.

Speaker 8 (01:22:10):
What was the name of the place we.

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
Had breakfast at, Skeet Steakhouse?

Speaker 8 (01:22:16):
Yeah, fantastic breakfast. It was great.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Yeah, you know a place is good when you roll
up at nine point thirty in the morning and you
can't find a parking place.

Speaker 7 (01:22:24):
Yeah, yes, yeah, and it was good good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Yeah, the place is packed all the time, so free
shout out to Skeet Steak Shop. Excellent place to eat
if you are in Hunchson and are hungry for breakfast
and just judging from the menu, if everything on the
menu is as good as breakfast, you should go any.

Speaker 8 (01:22:48):
Time ye're there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
Sure, maybe we should go to supper there next time
we go.

Speaker 8 (01:22:55):
That would be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
I forgot about that. It's got a good home cooking
meals on there.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
I just got a thing back on our Airbnb. Pam
and her guests are welcome back anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Yeah, yeah, I'm nice.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
For the fourth of July, we literally walked out to
the sidewalk and could see the entire you know, local
fireworks display right there.

Speaker 7 (01:23:27):
Yeah, there's a picture of it. Throw that picture up.
We're literally right across the cosmosphere so that that's an
actual rocket.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
Yep, that's Kansas Cosmosphere that they have genuine real NASA
artifact and and Russian artifacts space artifacts in there, to
include the original Apollo thirteen capsule that returned.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. So yeah, and that's worth a
trip all on its own.

Speaker 8 (01:24:02):
Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (01:24:04):
History of aviation and space space travel so far, it's good.
It's also the only outside of NASA proper space vehicle
reclamation centers. So if you find like an old specceship
of the bottom of the ocean, they can do that.

Speaker 8 (01:24:25):
They could do it. The Liberty Belove seven.

Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
They when it was found in was that Gus Gordon
that when he when he landed, he popped the hatch
and it filled full of water and sunk and he
had to bail out of it. And they retrieved it
many many years later off the bottom of the ocean,
and that's where they refurbished it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
I remember getting on because it was webcams were a
whole new thing to me at the time. We would
get on and want you could watch live as they
did the conservation on it through the whole process.

Speaker 7 (01:25:00):
You can actually watch them in the building. The conservation
is in the center and you can walk look at
you can watch it. My daughter took she was a
permanent fixture there in the summer. She took all of
their space camps and we actually she got to see
them and touch parts of the Liberty several times. But

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you can go in there and watch them. They're working
on stuff twenty four to seven.

Speaker 8 (01:25:25):
For speak, it was it Dimes or Nichols. I forget that.

Speaker 7 (01:25:31):
I don't remember it. Yeah, they got to handle a
little bit of it. So she kind of has that
under her belt. Something really cool to be able to say.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Yeah, all right, Well I don't have a much much
else to say except if you get a chance to
head to Gennesceo next year and go to UFO Day,
I highly recommend it. It is a lot of fun,
a lot of fun people. You'll probably get to see
us and other fantastic guests.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
So it's a good time for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
It definitely is, and by all means it's a.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Great way to celebrate Kansas too, part of our history.

Speaker 5 (01:26:16):
And I'm sure I playing this for next year on
the fourth of July is and Saturdays, so I'm not
sure what Gym's going to do there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
Yeah. The two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration
of Independence. Yeah that's a that's a big one. Half
a millennium, so pretty cool.

Speaker 8 (01:26:42):
I remember the bi centennial as a kid in nineteen
seventy six, and the entire year everything was red, white
and blue, the entire year.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Yeah, the entire year, going down to watch the Liberty
Train with the Liberty Bell on. It passed through town
when I was a kid, So that was fun. That's
cool because they took the Liberty Bell on a tour
of the United States and it didn't stop in my town.

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But we found out when the train was supposed to
go through somewhere at my mom's house, there may still
be a squashed penny from the tracks from the Liberty Train.

Speaker 8 (01:27:24):
Oh wow, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
It's not you're not supposed to do that because you
could theoretically cause a derailment. But a bunch of us,
a bunch of us did, and so there were some
squashed pennies from the Liberty Train. Freedom Train, I guess
they called it carrying the Liberty Bell and all of

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the because they would set up in different towns. They'd
set up a whole exhibit and it was all loaded
up onto the train and went to the next town.
So it was pretty cool. All right, I don't have
anything else. You guys, got anything else you want to
get before we get out of here?

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Nope, just shout out to Tony. She's watching us on Facebook. Hi, Tony,
she's commented a few times. I didn't realize that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
I'm so sorry. We're bad. We're bad, all right, guys,
Well until next time. Next week we're going or next week,
what are you guys talking about on.

Speaker 7 (01:28:34):
Uh out strange we're talking about uh like kind of
what we're talking about tonight, the Antaglios we're gonna be
talking about like Heavner rooms and the Anubis caves. We're
going to be doing some just the local ancient geographical
kind of stuff. It should be all right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
I can't wait. I can't wait. All right, and uh
week after that for on the Fringe, we're going to
be discussing the taus hum and other hums heard worldwide.

Speaker 7 (01:29:14):
It's gonna be a hum dinger.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Hum red Robin. I'm not even charging them for that
plug free advertising. So all right, guys, everybody, have a
great evening, keep it strange, keep it weird, just like

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the girls say, and we'll see you next time.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Night everybody, Good night, all right, guys,