Dream Visitation (Part Two!)

Do our Loved ones visit our Dreams?
Mark, Phil, Pam, and Jess discuss dream visitation with Special Guest Kristi Campbell!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Have you ever wondered what was out there in the
night sky, stared up at the stars in the hopes
of seeing something out of the ordinary. Have you heard
unexplainable noises coming from a vacant room or watched the
shadow across the wall in front of you. Have you
asked yourself if there is life after this one or
if you had life before? What about strange creatures that

(00:28):
are mythical and elusive? Have you experienced dejeuvu or felt
a prompting to leave because you felt you were in danger.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
If you have, you were on the fringe.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Welcome to another episode of On the Fringe.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm Mark, I'm Philip, I'm I'm Jess.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yes, our favorite medium Christy Campbell, and tonight we are
doing part two of our dream Visitation show from two
weeks ago, and so we brought in the experts you

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Now on with the show.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
And we're back.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Looks like Pam had to duck out for a minute.
She'll be right back. Yeah, So this is a super
fascinating subject for a lot of people. You know, last
week we talked about personal experiences that all of a
sudden had you know, I really had never had an

(02:50):
experience like that until just a few weeks ago. And
to me, it was I don't know if powerful is
the right word for it, but it was very comforting.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I felt I felt like I had.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Really visited and.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
It just.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I felt like I was at home. You know, it's
a hard hard to describe.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
So but like seventy I believe I saw a number someplace.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Seventy percent of people think they've had a visitation dream,
So I mean, it's not uncommon, and I can't remember
what the numbers were from the last time, but anyway,
it's super common. And whether you think that it is

(03:56):
a visit or is just your mind replaying stuff for you,
most people, even those who don't really believe, have found
these visits to be helpful. So with that being said,

(04:19):
who would like to start tonight?

Speaker 7 (04:22):
Well, I think, because we all kind of told our
personal stories on the last show, if Christy would be
willing to, maybe if she has one that she would
like to tell.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
I have a bunch of them, actually, and I only
have one that's truly mine, but I have some really
scary ones that I've been told by clients that we
want to go for it. Which when we want, like
my story or a scary story.

Speaker 7 (04:52):
Let's do Let's do your personal story first. Since we've
all given one on the last show.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
It's kind of petty. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 8 (05:00):
So my cousin was pregnant and I wanted to know
what she was having and I was worried because I
felt like something was wrong with the baby, and so
I had this I just I was like, there's something
with the baby.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
I don't know what's going on, but I just I
was really worried. It was her first.

Speaker 8 (05:19):
Pregnancy, and I was kind of concerned, and so I
went to sleep kind of from my mind. In my
great grandmother Roetta, she I was sitting in a chair
in this kind of dark lit room, but it was
very cozy, and she was just sitting across from me,
and she said, don't worry.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
They're gonna be fine. And I said, are you are
you sure? She's like, yeah, the girls are going to
be The girls are gonna be fine. I'm like, she's
having a girl. Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
You know.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
So I found out that way that she was having
a girl. And then she told me what was going to.

Speaker 8 (05:55):
Happen with the baby and that it was just birth
complications that would be fine when she grew older. And
that's exactly what happened. But I called, well, I text
my cousin. I was like, I know, you're having a girl,
and so you know, petty cousin stuff. She's like, do
you actually know or do you just think you know?
I said, great grandma told me. She's like that is

(06:16):
so not cool. But a little over two years old
and she's healthy and wonderful and going to have a
little sister in June.

Speaker 9 (06:29):
That's exciting. Yeah, very cool.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Oh, there's nothing cuder than little girls, at least until
they start talking, say, until they.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
Grew up or walking. Then they were everywhere.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Oh no.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
My son was the one that I really had to
watch out for once he started walking.

Speaker 9 (07:00):
I will forever see running through the room like a
trust there was? Is that what he was? Velociraptor? Yeah,
raptor and go, Yeah, he used to.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
He used to walk through our house like that, and
then he would stop and look at us and say,
don't judge me, and then he would.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Go back to it.

Speaker 9 (07:24):
Him.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's okay, he came by it. Honestly, I'm not gonna
lie because I do believe he learned the velociraptor walk
from me. Nice, So I'm blame.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Nice.

Speaker 9 (07:49):
Well, you did a good job teaching him, because he
does it very well.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Your wife telling you Mark, Yeah, he gets that from
his dad.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
I'm not gonna lie. Love it.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
A lot of the really goofy things my kids do,
I'm sure it came from honest I recognize many of them.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Woh, so I have okahead.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I was gonna say, there's another sound effect I need
to add to my board. I finally started adding something
to my board.

Speaker 9 (08:46):
Playing together.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
But yeah, uh, I got on here on on the interweb,
and there are tens of thousands of stories out here
on the web. Yeah, we literally could sit here and
read these stories all night long, every night for years

(09:14):
and still have the same amount to read.

Speaker 8 (09:19):
Well, it seems to be that most of of these
these encounters tend to be in categories like warnings or
trying to help, uh, calming or comforting, and and then
just you know, being present because perhaps you miss them,

(09:40):
or the fact that they they've got you know, they
just want to just want to hang out and they
want to tell you things.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
But there's been a lot of really amazing, really interesting ones.
Start my cat.

Speaker 8 (09:54):
There's my cat. Now, Yeah, she I can't lock her out.
She's she's got free realm.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
But I had I had some really interesting.

Speaker 9 (10:11):
I had a really.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Interesting one that was kind of scary if you'll want
to hear it. I have a couple that I've kind
of ear marks tonight.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
So I had a client and she bought a house
in Michigan. It was on Lake Michigan, and it was
an old it was an old, an old pect So
it was an old place. It was an old house,
and it was really nice. It was very much so a.

(10:44):
It was very much a.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
It needed a lot of work to do it that way.
So she bought this house and moved in.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
And she had lived in Oregon previously, and so she
moved along way, but she wanted a fresh start. She
had lost her husband about two years prior to cancer,
and she really was not a believer in the paranormal,
but she but you know, he was, and so he

(11:22):
had come to me for reading. And so she she
called me after she got moved in. She said, my
husband keeps coming to me. I don't understand the dreams.
And I said, why don't you tell me about them.
She's like, well, they just they seem silly.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
And I'm like okay.

Speaker 8 (11:37):
And so she said, he keeps pointing to the basement
door and then he keeps like putting to the front door,
and then he disappears. And I'm like, have you gone
down to the basement. She's like no, it's really rickety
down there, and it's really kind of scary. I said
you need to listen. And I said you need to

(11:59):
you know, maybe you need to lock it or.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
You know something. There's something nuck right down there.

Speaker 8 (12:05):
And so she I said there's I said, you have
a younger man that lives with you, and she's like,
I live with myself, and I said there's there's something
he's coming through and me saying something about you know
young man. Well, then the next night she has a
dream about this this her husband and there's this man
that's coming up the stairs from the basement and coming

(12:27):
into the house, going into the kitchen and getting himself
a snack.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Next morning, she wakes up and her cereals hap empty,
and she's like, that's strange.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
So she decides to put in a camera because she
thinks she's going crazy and these dreams are coming with
more intensity and more frequency, like but yet not talking,
just kind of poy like go like get out go,
And so she put up a camera and she just

(12:58):
happened to be out of ten On and she put
up like facing the basement door. She went out of
town because she she had a friend that was lived
I guess in a state that needed her help or something.
So she left and she had she didn't have any animals,
but she was out to dinner with the friend and

(13:20):
it camera pinged, and it was this man from her
dreams walking through the basement door in the flesh and
walking into the kitchen.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
And so when she.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
Got back home, she didn't feel safe, of course, and
so she called the police and they were like, well,
you know, it's probably just you know, you never know.
And so they finally she shid, I got footage, and
they're like, okay, So they went down the stairs. There's
a little apartment down there. The previous owner's son never

(13:53):
moved out. Oh my gosh, so she needless to say,
and he was wanted for some things, some some mediculous things, and.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
He he got arrested.

Speaker 8 (14:12):
And so her husband saved her life in essence, because
she never would have known.

Speaker 9 (14:17):
Oh my goodness, of my favorites, that is wild. Yeah,
that is a great one.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
Yeah, I have one more. Uh, you feel me to
go if I don't want to like overtake the.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
No, no, no, it's it's totally fine. That one was
Oh yeah, actually it was very Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (14:42):
She was a firm believer in psychics after that, and
she still talks to me to this day.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
She's in her seventies and she's.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
Now living in Florida in a flat house. So she
told that one pretty quickly, actually so. But I had
another client and she she was local and.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Her she took care of her mother for a long time.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
Her mom was early onset dementia, and she it was
it's the labor of love for her to take care
of her. And anybody who's had to care for a
parent that you know was not able to remember their
life or remember you know, things and can be kind
of combatant towards you know, the evening times because you

(15:32):
know sundowners happens.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
This is you know, my heart goes out for sure.

Speaker 8 (15:39):
Her mom passed away and after five years, I believe
that we're taking care of her. And she was going
through her mother's house and she was living with her
mother because she he sorry because she was trying to sorry,
because she was trying to you know, she was paying Ramona.

(16:01):
So she sold her house and so she had this
dream where her mother said, it's okay, it's okay to go,
it's okay to get rid of everything that you don't like.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
It's okay to go. It's totally all right, it's totally fine.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
I totally give you my blessing, but I want you
to get checked for cancer in your breast and because
there's something going on there, and so she went and
she got checked. I think it was like three or
four weeks later, and she had early stage breast cancer.

(16:44):
And if her mother would not have told her about it,
it would have kind of gone unchecked, oh more unlikely.
So I love the fact that our loved ones are
coming through. They're saying, Hey, it's okay, you can let
go of my stuff. I don't need my stuff anymore.
You could tell the like go, but hey, you should
go get checked for X y z.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Mm hmmm, yep.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's uh, that's at least she was able to listen.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Yeah, yeah, she was.

Speaker 9 (17:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, I've noticed reading these stories, there's a lot of
these and listening to stories last last time.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Some people are able to communicate with their loved ones
and some people are not.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
And I'm not sure why there's a difference there.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
I think it's it's not so much that that they
they're able to.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
I think sometimes it's the fact that.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
It's a learned trick of sorts when you pass away,
and if you put the intentions, it's kind of learning
a skill. If you really want to learn how to
you know, be an engineer, you have to work on
different you know, things like coding and whatnot. If you
want to, you know, be a painter, you got to
work on your you know, different painting strokes. So it's
something that if they want to work on it, they can.

(18:07):
If they feel like they just need to be in peace,
they can. So it's not that they don't love you,
it's just sometimes that either a that you're not ready
to hear what they have to say because.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
You're still grieving and grief can be a lifelong process.

Speaker 8 (18:21):
Or the fact that you know there is sometimes the
sense of you know, they're they're just they're they're living
it up and they're okay, and they're like they know
that I'm okay.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
So I'm a party while they're you know, hanging out.

Speaker 9 (18:36):
So sometimes okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
All right, question I am my first dream that I
told you about last time, where I was with my
mom and her two sisters. Uh, really, my mom and

(19:07):
one of my aunts were the only ones that spoke,
and the other one was just kind of she was
there and she just kept smiling. So I wonder if sometimes,
just like anything in life, some people are more talented

(19:29):
at communicating.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Yes, oh, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
I was just wondering because it was like the dream
with my brother. I mean, he just yeah, I don't
know how I got here, but it was good to
seeing you.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
So that was interesting with your brother too, because it
was he was just as mystified as you were.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
You know, know why I'm here, but it's good seeing you.

Speaker 9 (20:02):
Yeah, And maybe that's all it was, was that he
was wanting to see you too, you know.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Well.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
Also, on the other side, time is not like it
is here, so I mean he can be coming into
your dream, you know, in a different paradigm shift and
it kind of going, well, I was doing this and
I was headed to work.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Well what kind of work was he doing? We don't know,
because maybe he was working on the other side.

Speaker 10 (20:28):
You never know, you know, yeah, yeah, but it's yeah,
go ahead, I.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Got to I've got a question. I don't know. I'm
just kind of wondering if something just popped in my head.
So people that that contact through dreams, right, spirits, whatever
you want to call him, are they people that have
crossed over or people that haven't crossed over?

Speaker 8 (20:59):
It you both so predominantly dream is the easiest way
to move and get communication.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
If you think, if you think of a.

Speaker 8 (21:09):
Dream like water, you know you can move through water
easier than perhaps walking sometimes, right, So it's kind of
a emotional river of communication. But if you're sleeping and
you're astra projecting or you're coming, which is kind of
the same thing as coming through the dream, you can
send messages through in your dreams to living people as well.

Speaker 9 (21:35):
Okay, it's a good way to look at it.

Speaker 8 (21:39):
I had a dream that my best friend that's over
there was in a car accident. Woke up, she called me.
She told me, she goes, oh my gosh, guess why.
I said, you're in a car accident.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
You're wearing this dreamer was playing this is what happened.
And she's like how.

Speaker 8 (21:56):
And I pushed you back in your body and she's like,
I got handprints on my chest.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
I'm like, you go.

Speaker 8 (22:02):
But sometimes dreams can help save people too in some aspects.

Speaker 9 (22:10):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, I am a firm believer, now, I always was
kind of a hopeful believer and stuff like that. I mean,
I never discounted it and said, oh, that's crazy, But
since it's happened to me, I can't even describe what
I'm trying to describe. It just feels so much more

(22:39):
powerful when I talk about it. Mhmm.

Speaker 8 (22:43):
Yeah, it's a really nice way.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
It's kind of like a nice segue into.

Speaker 8 (22:53):
You know, it's not a direct way to reach out,
and it's not something that's going to shock you or
make you. You know, you're sleeping, you're you're in your
dream state. So it's a nice kind of calm way.
If you have a lot of emotions towards that person,
or you have a lot of you know, like sadness
and pain, it's a nice way to come through and

(23:16):
kind of be like, I'm here for you.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, that's kind of what it felt like to me,
is that they were there for me.

Speaker 8 (23:30):
So I remember when I was really young, I was
probably ten or eleven years old.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
My mom we were living no, I guess I was
like thirteen.

Speaker 8 (23:39):
We were living on Edward's Air Force Base and my cat,
my black cat mid Night, who had loved pieces, disappeared
and my mom would have dreams every night of the
cat coming to her and saying, I'm dead, I'm dead,
I'm dead, I'm dead, and then he would he would
show her where he was at and she would go
driving in the middle of the night when she'd wake
up and be like, I need to find him.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
I need to find him. He needs he deserves a burial.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
And she she did find what she believed was left
of him. And after she passed away, I was going
through her stuff. I'm when I moved out here, and
I found what was left of him and I screamed.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
It's just a tail. She kept it. That was scary so.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well that that was her proof to herself that she
wasn't just dreaming things up.

Speaker 8 (24:39):
Yeah, he got got back and so but she was
every night, like for a week, she was like, I
gotta find up.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
I gotta find like and she did. She believes that
she did, and so that's that's all that matters. So yeah,
for sure, the animals are really good at kind of
you know, as loved ones are going to come through
it as well and giving information.

Speaker 9 (25:05):
Which is really cool because you know, they're so attuned
to the other side anyway, it seems like, and for
them to it makes sense that they would be easily
able to, you know, as soon as they pass say
hey up, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
I still feel our cat from several years ago, Get up.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
On the end of my bed.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
She had a bad habit of licking the bed by
my feet and I would get my feet.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
And so my first instinct when I feel her getting
up into the bed is like, get off.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
I don't want you to lick my bed anymore.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
And then it's like, oh, hell, she can't.

Speaker 9 (25:51):
Don't you feel bad? And You're like, okay, come on up.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Yeah, yeah, and I feel bad.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Uh, but yeah, she always used to like to sleep
at the foot of bed and she would lick the
bed right next to my foot and I'd roll over and.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
Yeah, you know, Christy, I know you've heard the story
about my cat and ring and everything, and Jess, I
know you got your mic off. I can't remember how
long ago was it the last time we heard her.
Was it like it was like.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
It was just a few months ago. I think for
months ago. Yeah, yeah, it's been that long ago.

Speaker 9 (26:36):
But Jess was sitting at the dining room table and
heard her mew behind her in my living room. And
I'm in an apartment, so where I'm sitting is about
where she heard the me ow, and you know, right
here is my dining room table.

Speaker 8 (26:49):
So I think you mentioned that because when I was
talking to you guys on the other podcast, were you
mentioned I think maybe not I could be could be like.

Speaker 9 (27:01):
Woman more than once, but it yeah, been a little bit.
And yeah I heard her again that night, and it
was just like, what the heck?

Speaker 8 (27:10):
Yeah, I have a really cool story about a dog
helping him owner out after he passed away.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
You want to hear it?

Speaker 9 (27:22):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (27:23):
Okay. So my client had a golden doodle and he
was the love of her life.

Speaker 8 (27:31):
And she lived in Colorado, and she was again a
bit older and about six seventies kind of, and so
her dog passed away and it broke her heart.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
And he was I think twenty when he died, which was.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Old for a dog.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
He was, he was old, but he was he was
you know.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
So she she was so sad. She had him creamate
and everything, and she just was really heart broken. And
one night she fell asleep, she wasn't feeling very good,
and she fell asleep and the dog was at the
foot of her bed in her dream and like was

(28:13):
tugging on her like bed sheets, and so she got
up and followed him into the kitchen and he stopped
by the stove and he barked, and he looked at her,
and he barked, and he looked at the stove and
he barked, and he looked at her, and he barked.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
And then she woke up.

Speaker 8 (28:29):
Well, she was she just wasn't feeling very well, so
she thought, well, maybe I should have my stove inspected.
And so she was a gas so she called the
gas company come to find out she had a gas leak,
and her dog saved her life.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
And that sense.

Speaker 9 (28:45):
So that's cool.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, well, I mean that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Dogs are usually pretty protective. So whether this was.

Speaker 9 (29:02):
You know, what's really cool. You're thinking I had remembered
this earlier in the day. So Sweetie was my cat,
and she had two sisters that were born with her.
One was named being, someone was named d And they
were born the same day that my niece was the

(29:22):
same year, same day, and it's today. It was April
twenty eighth, so they would have been nineteen years old today.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
Oh that's wild.

Speaker 9 (29:34):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
That is quite the point it is. Maybe it's not
a coincidence. Are you going to hear your cat tonight?

Speaker 9 (29:42):
It wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
She had a very distinctive she did for sure.

Speaker 8 (29:49):
So I do have a disturbing story. I don't know
if you guys you're interested in that. It's kind of creepy,
though it's not absolutely. So I had a client. She
was younger, she was in her thirties. I would say,
and we'll call her K for this. That's not her name,

(30:10):
but we'll just call her K. And so Kay was
she was. She liked to run, and so she was always,
you know, running after work. And she was in the
medical field. And so she met this guy online and
they started talking and he said that he was sick

(30:34):
and that he you know, he just wanted to have
a girl friend before he passed away. And so she
met this guy and he looked fully able bodied, but
he was weird, and she started feeling like she was
being followed. And so until one day she wasn't. And
it was like it's like three six weeks, and then

(30:57):
three to six weeks and then she wasn't.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
It was just like gone, yes.

Speaker 8 (31:01):
And then all of a sudden, in her dreams she
felt like she was being watched. And it was that
same feeling as the guy that she had met, and
he would kind of come out of the shadows and
be like, I'm still watching you. So she had to

(31:25):
cleanse her house and she had to cleanse herself, and
she had to you know, have not meet. But she
had some assistance with kind of removing him from her
energy and kind of banishing him from from that. But
it had gone on for like six months before she
found it was like and she would feel touched in

(31:45):
her sleep, and so she was very freaked out.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
So she definitely decided that she you.

Speaker 11 (31:55):
Know, she moved towns, She did all the things that
she and more that she could have done, and he
did leave her alone, but it was definitely something where.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
She was still stalked in the afterlife, which is creepy.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
That's crazy.

Speaker 9 (32:14):
That is terrifying forging because you're kitty Cat stuck her
little nose up first, and then she walked in front
of the camera and it was cute.

Speaker 8 (32:23):
Yes, yeah, apparently he passed away in a motorcycle accident.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
Yes, my love.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, Well, it still had the energy to be a stalker.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Very much so. And a lot of times it just
depends on the circumstances.

Speaker 8 (32:38):
But sometimes if you have a lot of resentment or
anger or like you're like obsession, that can fuel dreams
even on the other side, because you're even though you
let go of all of that, there's still this like
there's this feeling of I can't let go of it,
so you're not at peace. On the other side, you're
obsessed and that takes time to disentangle.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Now I would rather have the the the well wished wishes,
dreams from from the people they care about.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Stalkers.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
Yeah, you have another funny one, and this is this
is kind of cute.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
Actually. So I had a client.

Speaker 8 (33:26):
She bought a Victorian house and I believe it was
in Boston somewhere, and she was younger and she was
really really kind of attractive and kind of cute, see,
and she look kind of Betty Boop.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
She was really adorable. And so.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
She moves in and she has no roommates, and so
there's a downstairs, there's like a there's like a.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Parlor, and then there's like a den.

Speaker 8 (33:58):
Basically at the parlor is kind of like that was
where she used to hang out a lot.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
But she would smell this odor and it was just
it was just kind of gross. It was just like
think you and she's like, is there like sewer is there,
like what's going on? Like rotten eggs?

Speaker 5 (34:19):
And so.

Speaker 8 (34:20):
She fell asleep on the couch of the parlor one day,
and in her dream she saw this woman dressed in
about like nineteen twenties garb, and she was walking in
and she was an old lady with a you know,
like a walking stick, and she would walk around and
she would try to get settled in her chair and she.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Would cast gas, and so she was, oh dear, oh dear.

Speaker 8 (34:45):
And so when she woke up, she's like, am I
any ghostly gas?

Speaker 9 (34:55):
Yeah? Exactly, Yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
That's going to be me.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Actually, I keep teasing people that I should become a
pilot because I've already got so many years of crop
testing experience. So yeah, that's that's what's going to happen
when I visit.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Here again.

Speaker 9 (35:23):
The ghost to the Bombarrino rides on, well, as we all.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Know that it does return from time to time.

Speaker 9 (35:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
I need to check to see if I can listen
close enough to see if I can hear that on
my recording from that the other night.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
Oh my god, I forgot about that.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
It's on there. I bet it's on.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
It is that it is that was so embarrassing.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
I'm still mortified fart and.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
And I thought we were all fit down to flip
the little door stop down.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Ah, there we go again.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
It was it was the comic release that we needed.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
That is going to be my after all.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, even if it's not all all those who are
who are here with this tonight, after I pass, I
want everybody I know, every time they smell a fart.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
To blame it on me.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I want to Yeah, I want to see if it
becomes a national or something. Yeah, Poulter Gas, all right.

Speaker 9 (37:04):
I.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Mean if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you
laugh at?

Speaker 9 (37:14):
Right?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, you know I'm an easy target.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
I know me really well.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
But yeah, there's a I'm literally millions of these out there.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
I think the probably go through any household and find
at least one or two people.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Who's who's had an experience.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Of some sort.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
I think you're right.

Speaker 8 (37:51):
Yeah, Well it's interesting because you know, it's such a
subject of you know, signs versus the the you know,
the unknown, and so you know, so many people having
these experiences, and you know, people thinking, oh, well, maybe

(38:11):
it's just me trying to comfort myself, you know, psychologically
and trying to like, you know, because you know, they
say when you dream, you're you're seeing all the.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
Aspects of yourself, they say in dreams.

Speaker 8 (38:22):
But I don't believe still because I think that that's
and also with uh, with when you're lose the dreaming
as well. But I think that when you dream, you
actually are the most open that you can be, and
so you can receive information, whether it be from load.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Ones or.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
Angels or pets or you know, whatever kind of energies
that come through.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah, And I actually believe that both sides have a point,
because not every dream, not every dream is going to
be a visitation. Some of them are, by and large,
most of them are those super vivid ones that feel real.

(39:13):
I feel like they probably are.

Speaker 9 (39:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
And even.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Even if you are a total skeptic and you think
it is just your mind trying to make you feel better,
why complaint?

Speaker 9 (39:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Had part of the cre processor or a real phenomenon.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
What does it matter?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Right?

Speaker 5 (39:47):
It helps?

Speaker 9 (39:49):
I know there's times that you think that it's you
wonder you wake up and you're like, oh, you know,
was that a dream? Was it? I'm not really sure?
But then there's other times you're absolute that was not
a dream.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Yeah, that was real.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
It was very visceral.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
It was real.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
So I had a.

Speaker 8 (40:06):
Client one that dreams are like me, Like he he
was a gamer, like he created code. He's like, dreams
are like writing code because you never know it quite
is going to be in it, but you know it's
going to be interesting and enjoyable.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
And so when when the code is.

Speaker 8 (40:18):
Created, it's kind of like this this snapshot.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
And so, well, that's a very interesting thought about it.

Speaker 8 (40:25):
But I said, I think that it's more so of
a like the opposite of a memory. It's like a
message or like a moment in time where you can
have that.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
That's feeling a piece mhmm.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, that's important. Like I said, it doesn't matter what
side of the fence you're on. I think that it's
a healthy phenomenon no matter you know what your what.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Your stance is.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
And like like you said, these warning dreams, you know,
there's no way for someone to know they've got cancer.
There's no way for someone to know there is a
person living in your basement.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 11 (41:20):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
I think both sides have got some valid points, But
I personally I personally believe in it.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
I do too, And I have another point to make
too that I have kind of been thinking about too,
is that you know, I worked with a lot of
clients and who have been close to passing, and a
lot of them have been saying, you know, three years
and years that you know your your loved ones straw
closer when you're about to pass, and so you have

(41:57):
a lot more interactions, especially if you go into some
place like where if you're if you're like where you
sleep a lot more and you you're kind of living
with your loved ones, they draw very close, and so
it's kind of like they're half you know, you're half
and half out there, half and half out and you're

(42:18):
trying to It gets more vivid and more realistic because
they're here to help you cross over. So dreams are
kind of like a story to give you guidance. Well,
you know, they're on the other side and kind of
a a a hand to hold. But as they get
closer to as you get closer to passing, it becomes

(42:39):
more of a comfort of I'm still here, still waiting
for you.

Speaker 9 (42:44):
That's coolreight.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Well, and you know we discussed that on an earlier
show about.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
People's loved ones.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
We did a hospice nurse show, and you know, so
many people see their loved ones waiting on them and
and that's you know that you know they're getting close. Yeah, absolutely,
usually a couple of days.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
The veil is as a stick as we think it is.

Speaker 8 (43:21):
It's very much, you know, it's thin, and it's it's buoyant,
and so we can kind of those, you know, those
who have passed and kind of moved through it. And
I think, oh, like Halloween is the times the veil
is thin. That's not actually true. It's actually pretty thin
most times. But you know, we just think of it
because of marketing. But our loved ones can come and

(43:42):
visit us when we're awake, when we're asleep, and so
dreams are just a great kind of caveat to move
them into.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
Better reception.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Well.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
And people are trained from the time their little kids
to not pay attention to these things. And that's good
and bad depending on your point of view, or even
it is good and bad no matter what's your point

(44:16):
of view. But as we get older, I think we
we we start believing it more and it makes it
easier for that communication to happen, Chris said. My wife
said that her dad talked with his brother and her

(44:39):
brother both a few days before he passed.

Speaker 9 (44:42):
So really wow.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, but little kids, little kids see their loved ones
in their dreams and not in their dreams all the time. Yeah,
so it just because they haven't most of them haven't

(45:09):
learned yet that you're not supposed to see that.

Speaker 8 (45:13):
Yeah, it's a filtering process for sure. But some people,
some kids, they they forget that. And I'm gonna just
keep doing it, keep having my imaginary friend that's not
so imaginary or you know, and some are just kind
of you know, it's easier to just go with and
sometimes the cultural things sometimes it's not. But you know,
we always still have that. It's not like it just

(45:33):
appears forever. We still have that in the back of
our brains going. I can still connect, I can still communicate.
I just have to find my way back to that
and let go of all that training and be able
to be open to things.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
I think that's true. Everybody knows that dogs and little
kids are able to see and hear things that that
adults have learned not to.

Speaker 6 (46:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (46:02):
Sure, you know, I never thought about it. Until I'm
just talking right now. You guys know the story of
when I had my car accident and my son saw
my angel. I never thought about the fact that there
were adults everywhere, you know, and he was the one
that saw that.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
He hadn't learned to fill it up.

Speaker 8 (46:24):
He hadn't learned comfort, yeah, saying hey, she's going to
be okay, it's going to be okay.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
That may been more for him than for you.

Speaker 8 (46:34):
Yeah, oh maybe, so yeah, to give him comfort, like, hey,
Mom's going to be okay, she's got.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
Help, you know what I mean. So even though.

Speaker 9 (46:46):
He wasn't scared, he was completely freaked out. He thought
I was going to die because and he wouldn't tell
us why. It was months before he finally told my mom,
do you know why I thought Mama was going to die?
It's because I saw her angel. Yeah, And Mom was like, okay,
this makes sense, you know, because I mean he didn't
want to leave me anywhere. So but once she said no, honey,

(47:08):
he's they were there to protect her, you know. They
they made sure she was okay, and then he was
just like light bulb went off, Oh okay, you know,
and then he was fine with it.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Know it was wind drew the wrong conclusion.

Speaker 9 (47:24):
He did, he did completely.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Yeah, story of my life.

Speaker 9 (47:32):
That's cool because he'll be thirty yeah, thirty six this
year and he still remembers it.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
How is How is it that he's your son?

Speaker 5 (47:42):
You must have been like one.

Speaker 9 (47:44):
When I had it, right, Yeah, I as.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
I. On the other hand, I'm eligible for the senior
menu at almost every place I visit.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Now.

Speaker 9 (48:03):
Oh no, you're not much older than me. Oh, a
couple of years. Not much.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
My birthdays next week, so I'm gonna start too.

Speaker 9 (48:15):
That's exciting. Do you have big plans?

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (48:19):
Dinner with the girls and what's about it.

Speaker 8 (48:23):
I tried to age myself, so I thought I was
turning fifty and I was like, I ate myself for
two years.

Speaker 6 (48:27):
I was like, wait a minute, turning forty eight.

Speaker 9 (48:30):
Okay, that's funny.

Speaker 8 (48:33):
I ate my cat too.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
I'm like, I need girl. Math is not mathing, I swear, so.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Oh my gosh, no, just wait till you mark math.

Speaker 8 (48:43):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Oh Mark math Mark math is bad math.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
I want to skip a few.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yes, yes, that's that's actually fairly accurate.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
That's okay.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
We still love you anyway.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
I spend half half of my day lost.

Speaker 9 (49:13):
Same, are you lost?

Speaker 6 (49:14):
You're just introspective?

Speaker 9 (49:16):
There we go.

Speaker 7 (49:17):
I'm pretty sure that's a good word for it.

Speaker 9 (49:20):
It's a very good word for it. I have word
for our group yet, more introspective. We have all the
count Honestly.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
I am more more squirrelspective.

Speaker 8 (49:37):
Great grammar to say I'm not lost. I was just
examining my mental bloss Oh.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah, the older I get, the more easily distracted I become.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Oh, look squirrel, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
Goes squirrel. I got shiny squirrel or shiny by me.
I'm like, yeah, I got older. I yeah, I just
want more nap like naps.

Speaker 9 (50:09):
Yeah, it makes me mad. Is you know I'm sleepy
by six o'clock in the evening, but I'm right and
awake at six o'clock in the morning. It's like, really
that that is not fair.

Speaker 8 (50:22):
I'm Mine's like, I get I get sleepy, I go
to bed, I lay down, and then I'm like right awake,
and I'm like, really, God.

Speaker 9 (50:33):
You know I'm forever dropping my phone on my face
because I'll fall asleep.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
I'm not that hurts.

Speaker 9 (50:42):
I didn't want to know.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Yeah that I'm not the only one who does that.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
I reach up on the night stand and look at
my phone for something, and as I'm looking at it,
because it chirped at me message and I'm trying to
look at the message, my eyes won't focus, and then
all of a sudden, I fall asleep and drop it
in my face.

Speaker 9 (51:03):
It's like it hurts, doesn't it. It's such a joke.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
It's like, oh, yeah, soon, I think it's probably, uh,
you know, probably about time we start drawing some conclusions.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
What do you guys think?

Speaker 3 (51:28):
This will be our second hour, first hour tonight, but
our second hour.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
Of the the.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Process here, So what do you guys think?

Speaker 7 (51:40):
I think it's absolutely real.

Speaker 9 (51:44):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yeah, I believe our panel is unanimous.

Speaker 9 (51:48):
Yeah yeah, I can't like.

Speaker 8 (51:59):
That'll be We'll have to collectively when we're all gone, like,
you know, go hop people don't. He knows dreams, Like
let's let's go with a person tonight. We'll have a party.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
You know.

Speaker 8 (52:10):
I have a list a hitlands or a hotland.

Speaker 9 (52:19):
Going to freak people out.

Speaker 6 (52:21):
I mean I might do a little. It doesn't hurt
un fun.

Speaker 9 (52:29):
Yeah, I believe it at one hundred percent. You guys
have heard the stories that I've told about dreams where
people have come and visited. I was telling Christy earlier
backstage about my friend that we talked about last week
that kept showing me the picture of the Brooklyn Bridge
and I found it finally and it has the and

(52:51):
I was wondering what to do with my life. Did
I want to Oh, we lost chess, we lost mark.
Oh no, wow, Internet must have went out on their

(53:11):
end of town.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
So you found the puzzle.

Speaker 9 (53:16):
I did find the puzzle and it had the same
background and everything on it. And at the time, I
was really looking to decide whether what direction I wanted
to go in life. Did I want to pursue my
art more fully or you know, I was in a
corporate job. Did I want to stay with that? And
on the puzzle itself, on the back, it talks about

(53:37):
the Brooklyn Bridge being such an inspiration for creatives and
artists and things like that, and I was like, Oh,
that's cool, that's perfect. Chris said, they're electric blinked yeap,
oh no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Storming down there.

Speaker 9 (53:57):
Oh not yet, not that I'm aware of. Look cloudy here,
we're not back and SOO said the way I said it, it
just didn't sound like a hit list. It kind of
didn't it.

Speaker 6 (54:10):
And so well, staying out of trouble. I'm kidding.

Speaker 9 (54:18):
Never he's been running with us, are you kidding?

Speaker 6 (54:21):
Then he's in perfect company. It's perfect.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
With you guys. I miss you, buys.

Speaker 9 (54:28):
I know soon enough, he said, Hi, Christie said Christy, Yeah,
we need to get together.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
I know.

Speaker 9 (54:40):
It's been too long, and it's not like you live
a million miles away. You know, we got to get
down that.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
I know. I know. But well, I had a hit
and miss with a business.

Speaker 8 (54:52):
But I'm gonna next month is my goal to kind
of get into something.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
So when I do, I shall let you all know.

Speaker 9 (54:57):
Yeah, that's exciting. That'll be out of fun.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
Oh yeah, I'm excited for sure.

Speaker 9 (55:05):
Good deal. No, I pulled up our weather and we're
in the clear right now. But luckily I'm on the
opposite end of town from the other two, which we
live in a very small town, so I'm really only
probably less than ten blocks away from them.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
So yeah, they're trying to get.

Speaker 9 (55:23):
Back on, are they good? Luckily?

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Just and Mark just sent me a message. You're trying
to get back on.

Speaker 9 (55:29):
Okay, cool, awesome, that's a bummer.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
So what about you, Bill?

Speaker 9 (55:36):
Do you have any stories?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Just the one I told last time? And I don't
know that it was a dream when my grandmother showed
up at the end of the bed. Yeah, he passed away.
I I would almost swear that I was awake, you know,
it was maybe a waking dream.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
I don't know if there is such a thing.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yeah there, but but yeah, I do remember. That's That's
the closest thing that I know, because I really don't
remember any of my dreams.

Speaker 9 (56:09):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (56:13):
I used to really remember all of my dreams, and
not so much anymore, which is surprising.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
But I lose I need to lucidream a lot more
than I do now.

Speaker 8 (56:27):
And I the last lucidream I had, I was a
cat in this rich lady's house and I got to
eat whatever I wanted and it was awesome.

Speaker 9 (56:35):
The dream just to be somebody's house pet, that you
don't have to work, you don't have to get up.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's I'm going to come back at that time.
I'll come back as it's a pampered house.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Can you.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Know? Sorry about uh, I'm still waiting for my internet
to read. The power went off for like or four
seconds and.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Back off.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
Oh no, I'm holding onto my desk, am I next?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Oh that was crazy, that's all I remember. I mean,
like I said, I don't remember a lot of my dreams. Yeah,
and I know I've told the story where I feel
like I was spiritually attacked. Oh yeah, I don't know
how many times.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
You know, they're not fun.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I firmly believe that's what it was, you know, because
the circumstances behind it were just too I'm not even
gonna say, but.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
We're still having some problems, guys.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Why Oh you guys all just went out for a
second and then came back on.

Speaker 9 (57:59):
Oh oh, I'm good, we're fine.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
We're all talking.

Speaker 9 (58:04):
We think you might still be having some problems there.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Mark, I'm on my phone right now. I'm my computer
is coming up now, so I'll be back on normal.
I'm here in a second, I'm going to I'm going
to duck out and I'll.

Speaker 9 (58:18):
Be And So said, you got the Spanish power flu
Yeah Spanish.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's those atmospheric phenomenon he was talking about.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Je said it was fine on her end.

Speaker 8 (58:39):
Okay, well, did you guys this little phenomenon with like
the moon where had the little smiley face with the
little planets the line the other day.

Speaker 7 (58:49):
It was just like, yeah, I was too lazy to
get up early and go see it. I was like,
I can imagine what it looks like. I'll look at
pictures later.

Speaker 9 (59:03):
Before we get too far, Phil, finish your story kind of.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yeah, no, I was. I was just saying the dream
where I felt I was under spiritual attack. It was
just too obvious to me because I worked at a prison,
which is such a negative place. Recommend nobody goes marks
on the pictures.

Speaker 8 (59:23):
Now weird it's Marky Mark bunky bus.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
That was was I got Mark and Mark.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
There's two of us, right, Oh well I got rid
of the clone.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
I just.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
It was just too too obvious for me with everything.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
Yeah, plu was.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
It absolutely was. I mean it was bad enough that
I went to work the next day and talk to
the chaplain at the prison. You know, I was like, man,
I'm really disturbed by this. Wow, and what was crazy?
You know the story. He didn't look at me like
I was crazy. You know, He's like, man, everything you're
saying is biblical, you know, And it was crazy. But

(01:00:17):
I'm not going to told how many times here, But.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Did you have the falling but for you, did you
have the falling feeling before you had the attack? That's
very stomatic or I remember? Okay sometimes sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
That I remember.

Speaker 9 (01:00:40):
I used to have that all the time when I
was younger. Scared. I haven't done that long time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
I have bounced off the bed many times.

Speaker 7 (01:00:51):
Yeah, more often than I would like. It scares the
Jesus out of me.

Speaker 8 (01:00:57):
Yeah, especially if I'm like really really tired and I
pushed myself.

Speaker 6 (01:01:03):
I have a mom When that happens, it's like, oh,
you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Always throw my arms out to catch myself.

Speaker 11 (01:01:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Most of my falling came to bed was when I
was drunk.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
So I think we've all.

Speaker 9 (01:01:25):
I think we've everybody's Yeah, put a leg on the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
The worst feeling I was in Australia. Okay, this is
this is a military stories. Back when I drank a
lot and we lived in underground bunkers right, we called
the Manhills and they were like Amma dumps converted in
the barracks out in the out back.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
It was such a cool place. I loved it. But
the rooms when you close your door. Yep, it was
pitch black. I mean obviously there's no window. You're underground,
you know, And it was pitch black. And I come
stumbling in one night, you know, I mean super drunk.

(01:02:12):
And I lived on the top bunk. That's where I
slap on the top brunk. I shared a room with
two other guys. So I climb into bed and an
you guys, if I'm sure have been drunk enough, the
room spins right, you know, and you put the floors,
calms it down. Well, I'm on the top rack, you know,
I'm on the top and the room starting to spin.

(01:02:33):
I can't see anything is dark, and I am trying
to put my foot down on a floor and again
I'm in the second bunk. I don't know what you
call it, but it was bad.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Luckily I didn't grow up.

Speaker 9 (01:02:48):
But Punkmate would have killed you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah, because we didn't even have bathrooms in the in
the in the room, he had to go to the bathroom.
He had to run down the hallway.

Speaker 9 (01:03:08):
Oh no, oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Yeah, it was pretty rough.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Trying to calm down from that.

Speaker 9 (01:03:17):
One brings back some really bad memories. I'm really glad I.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Don't yeah, I'm glad that myself.

Speaker 9 (01:03:32):
Yeah yeah, Samet same absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Yes, some people don't outgrow it, but I did, and
thank goodness, yeah yeah it was was.

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
I have a question. I have a question for y'all.
We've been talking about loved ones and dreaming about loved
ones and whether or not that's real or not. Have
you all ever dreamt of somebody who wasn't a loved
one who came into your dream that you didn't want there?
Because I have two reoccurring ones. One was a it

(01:04:12):
was a family member who I had a falling out with,
and another one was an ex fiance who passed and
he comes back in occasionally trying to get my attentions
drives me up the wall.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Well, it's because your attentions are very valuable?

Speaker 9 (01:04:31):
Is that that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
How you have to look at that?

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
You're so awesome?

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Didn't even get over you after there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
Oh, that's it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
Serious?

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
What I ever had?

Speaker 6 (01:04:48):
Oh, I think this case.

Speaker 8 (01:04:51):
What I ever had was when I was nine years
while we lived in these apartments and I had I
had a nice gentleman named Herkimer who.

Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
Would come in.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
He had a top hat and he was very kind
and my Mom and I both had dreams of him
and he would just comfort us and calm us, and
it was it was very We didn't know that we
both saw him in dreams until I was in my twenties.
But there was a woman who had come in and
she was tiny, She was like maybe like four foot eleven,
and she was fredged up face and very you know, angry,

(01:05:23):
long stringy hair, and she had her little stick and
she came in and she'd in my In my dream,
I was sitting in my room playing with my dolls,
and she'd say.

Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
You need to get out of here.

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
You're you're not wanted here.

Speaker 8 (01:05:35):
And she kept she wouldn't come close, and then one
time she did and it like it just felt like
dill pickles random.

Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
Well, but yeah, and then she uh, somehow it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:51):
Came about because I would just like wake up screaming
because she would just she'd take a step closer each time,
and she didn't get to my bed, but she would
get close enough, and I swear it was.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
The creepiest thing.

Speaker 8 (01:06:02):
Well, then I woke up and we lived in these
apartment until I was about twelve. And so when I
was eleven, we were doing this project on like where
you live in the history.

Speaker 6 (01:06:13):
So we went.

Speaker 8 (01:06:13):
To the library to look at the you know, the records,
and they were apartments. But my mom was dating a
guy who knew a lot about public records and say,
he's like, well the area in general, and so we
were scrolling through microfish and those apartments were probably from
like the fifties forties, and I was right up to it, right,

(01:06:37):
I'm like no, And I saw her face and it
made me have a mini panic attack, and I'm like,
it's oh good, you know. And her name was Rita
Delgado and she had died in those apartments and she
died from a heart attack and they didn't find her
for three months.

Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
Oh god, wow, So that.

Speaker 9 (01:07:02):
Rock.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
I don't know, Yeah, that was not a pleasant lie.

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
I've had several several of them were fine, but that
was like that sticks with me to this day.

Speaker 9 (01:07:11):
I'm like, well, that just takes de pickles.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Well, you guys have read that the true story about
a woman who got home from work, sit down in
her chair, passed away watching TV and no one checked
on her for years because they heard the TV.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Yeah, uh, the TV was on this whole time. Everybody
thought she was fine.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Uh, she owned the apartment and apparently I can't remember
why somebody went in there the uh, but somebody went
in there to check on something. I don't know if
it was a water leak or anything. I'll have to
check check the story again. The founder mummified in her
chair watching TV.

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
So you know, there's a guy follow my TikTok and
he's popular. His name's Tizzy, and he just passed, you know, Tizzy. Yeah,
he just posted like yesterday that his neighbor they found
him dead and he'd been dead for two or three weeks.
I can't remember. I want to say three weeks, but yeah,
and he said did you hear did you hear him

(01:08:18):
talking about that?

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:08:21):
So he had been you know, he would go out
and he would always kind of notice, you know, he
just kind of pay attention more to the fact that
things aren't like they should be. And he said, in
you know, in their neighborhood, there's a specific day, like
everybody has you take out your trash and then you

(01:08:41):
bring your bins back in. And this guy religiously would
bring his bins out that morning and take him right
back to his house after the trash bin was there.
And he noticed that his bin wasn't put out, so
he was like, you know, making a note of that,
I need to think about that when he comes back home. Well,
he comes back home and it's still not moved. So
he's like, okay, I need to let somebody know. So

(01:09:02):
he did let someone know and they were like, oh, yeah,
he's I'm sure he's fine, you know. And then a
package gets delivered and the guy doesn't put the package
and he's like, okay, this isn't this is another big
red flag here, so he lets I think it was
at this point the police, Hey, this guy's not picking
his stuff up, and they were like, oh, you know,
it hasn't been very long. Whatever. Well then a week

(01:09:25):
goes by and he has another package delivered. His trash
hasn't been put out, you know, and now he's got
these two packages have been laying there for at least
two weeks, and finally somebody went and checked on this
guy and he had he had passed like probably, I'm
sure it was the day that Tizzy first noticed that
his trash wasn't taken out, So yeah, been there two

(01:09:45):
three weeks. That sounds he's like in that made him
feel back because He's like, nobody actually went to check
on him. You know, we knew he was there, nobody
went to check on him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I've actually got a a personal experience, I'll say when
it comes to something like that, I don't know, five
six years ago maybe, no, maybe it'll bit longer than that.
I was a reserved deputy and we got called out
to Havanah Lake and it's just a small little lake community,

(01:10:21):
you know, I mean for those that I mean obviously
don't know. Oh, we lost Jess.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
And well, anyway, I got called out there for seeing
security and come to find out this lady they found dead.
You know, her neighbor did mm hmm by the flies
in the window August, so you can imagine.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Oh, and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
August in Southeast Kansas is sweltering.

Speaker 9 (01:11:06):
Yeah, So we.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Get there and and and the only way you could
tell it was a human person, you know it was
a human being was the fever bone. The bathroom water
was running. They don't know how long, but she was
desiccated so much, and obviously you know water speeds that up. Yeah,
but also had a dog.

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
The dog was Yeah, they literally had to put her
in a body bag with a shovel.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I didn't go in, which thank god I didn't have
to go in. Well, actually called Canny fire department and
they went in, you know, with their their packs on
and covered the body and all that, and it was it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Was pretty nasty, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
But yeah, they don't know how long she'd been there.
I don't know that they couldn't do a toxicology because
she was decayed so much. Yeah, and it's kind of
along that same lines because you know, another deputy came out,
got the dog they contacted next to Ken, and he

(01:12:25):
didn't wan anything to do with it, didn't care, you know,
So they don't know how long she had been. It's
been it had been weeks. I know that because her
neighbors said she hadn't saw her in weeks.

Speaker 9 (01:12:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because not everybody lives out there full time.
A lot of people are just there on the weekends,
so it would be really easy to miss somebody not
coming and going.

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
Yep, And it makes sense.

Speaker 9 (01:12:52):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
That one's rough.

Speaker 9 (01:12:57):
That is rough. That's sad too, and you don't have family.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
That you and yeah, I know, yeah, I mean, well.

Speaker 9 (01:13:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's okay. And so I've said these
stories aren't that far removed from what happened to Gene Hackman.

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
No, they're not not really true. Yeah, it restarted itself.

Speaker 6 (01:13:23):
Oh, no power problems.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Yeah, it's supposed to storm pretty heavily overnight.

Speaker 9 (01:13:33):
Yeah, it is here right now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
I just looked at the radar here a minute ago,
and there's nothing in the area. We got a lot
up north.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
But yeah, we've just got right now.

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
You're supposed to come in and think tomorrow. So you're
looking kind of heavy clouded today.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
It's gusting about twenty five miles an hour, which isn't
a whole lot, but yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:13:58):
Not especially for here lately. Holy cow, Oh my god,
all I'm discovered getting rain. Honestly, it would be nice
if we wouldn't get loads out of time, but I'm
not going to complain either.

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
We are under.

Speaker 9 (01:14:19):
Yeah, they put us on their flood watch. I was
still at work when that came through.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Yeah, we're gonna get it all right down and come
to July. We're going to be in drag.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
Conditions right then. Pam, you guys don't have your your
spirit cat.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
At work.

Speaker 9 (01:14:37):
At work. We have our regular cat.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
Oh okay, that's right.

Speaker 8 (01:14:42):
I thought you had a spirit cat to know or
maybe not, but okay, I thought you had.

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
Well, the cat that was at the place that you
work is.

Speaker 9 (01:14:54):
She's a little spooky, but she's kind of cool. So
she's a little spooky. Yeah, her name is Luna. She's
pretty cool. Yeah, she poor Luna. She's normally not a
super jumpy cat. But where we sat Jennifer was out
working the desk with me today and in between us

(01:15:16):
is where all the DVDs are, So there's like this
whole cart of DVDs and Luna likes to lay right
in the middle of all of that, you know, And
she's laying there asleep, and Jennifer was talking to me,
and she didn't do anything out of the ordinary. She
just kind of turned and apparently Luna caught it out
a peripheral vision that poor cat had a stroke. She like, oh,

(01:15:41):
you know, her every bit of fur on her was
straight up in the air, and you know, she did
the cat all the fur comes off, you know. But yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Always fun when they do that and you see the
tests of fur fly off.

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
That's exactly what happened, Like, girlfriend, yeah, oh gosh, but no,
she we do have some we have some energy in
the building for sure. We accidentally Okay, did we tell

(01:16:20):
you about Luna? I think we did, didn't we just
I can't remember if we told her not about the
crystal that Lunda wears, yeah, you know, to keep her safe. Well, yeah,
h I want to say. It's been a couple of
months now, but we had just a clear crystal that
she wears, an abasil run back, and when I came
into work, we've had like two of them have completely disappeared,

(01:16:42):
and we thought maybe she caught him on something or whatever,
but we've never found him ever. And then a couple
of months ago, this clear crystal turned brown and we
were like, what the hell is that all about. I've
ever seen one do that before. Actually it was before
we went to Kentucky, so it was like the beginning

(01:17:04):
of March probably when that happened. And so we got
another crystal and put it on her, and you know,
because our text suggests and I was like, hey, this
is going on, and she's like, there's get it off
of her. There's something that's absorbing negativity from something, you
know that and.

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
Been too full. You know, it looked like pull up
you know.

Speaker 9 (01:17:25):
Yeah, she well, she had been on edge and had
been acting really spooky and you know stuff. So we
got all that fixed and she's doing a lot better now.
But we've got a new crystal on her and we
check it every day to make sure it's okay. But
you know, and I was like, is she lean in

(01:17:47):
the sun too much? Did it?

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
You know?

Speaker 9 (01:17:49):
Is that what caused it? But no, I don't think
it was weird, And SOO said, disease crystals, Right, it
was weird. I took pictures of it. And so before
we put this new one on her, I took a
picture of it so we'll have it too. She needed
a filter change exactly, and the weirdest thing. So I

(01:18:13):
take the crystal and I'm like, I'm going to take
it home. I'm going to put it out in the sun,
you know, and let it, let it re energize, recharge.
And I put it in my with my iPad in it,
and it's gone. I have yet to find it. It's
somewhere between work and my house. Oh no, I don't

(01:18:34):
know where it went. It went somewhere something good. Yeah,
something happened to it. I'm not sure what, but M
crazy crazy. I still haven't found it. No, clue where
it went. So I'm sure it'll pop up or it
won't one or the other.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Yeah, but yeah, you went down a rabbit hole or.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Two there, for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:19:03):
She's had a.

Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
The theme of this show though, right, or anything that
I'm attached to you.

Speaker 9 (01:19:12):
Actually, she's kind of had a rough time with stuff
at the you know, at the library when we're not there,
and so when we come in in the morning, I'm
always like, so, you know, were you fighting battles all night?
How did it go?

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
Oh? Yeah, no kidding.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
She's cute.

Speaker 6 (01:19:29):
She is cute. She took them over to get used
to me then and.

Speaker 8 (01:19:33):
She was like, we went back in, Uh, he's the restaurant.
And then she was just like, oh you're okay, now
you're fine, Just like okay girl whatever, she's yeah, exactly
how she is.

Speaker 9 (01:19:50):
So, yeah, she's a mess.

Speaker 6 (01:19:55):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Well, I don't have a whole lot more to talk
about tonight. How about you, guys? No, not really pretty good.

Speaker 9 (01:20:09):
Internet's being wonky.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Yeah, I was gonna flash on me again.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
Yeah, I guess I'm gonna have to buy me a ups.

Speaker 7 (01:20:18):
Yeah, my mind just like restarted. That's why I dropped
off my whole computer was just like, hey, guess what,
I'm just going to restart.

Speaker 9 (01:20:32):
Yeah, it's like, no, that happens to you all the time,
drives him nuts.

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Uh, all of a sudden, I was talking here and
the power blink just a little bit, and then.

Speaker 7 (01:20:47):
All of a sudden, that's what happened here.

Speaker 9 (01:20:51):
Something crap. The mm hmm crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:20:59):
I don't I don't to soundboard. I make my own sound.

Speaker 9 (01:21:03):
Those are pretty good too, by the way, two thumbs up.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
I've got I've got sound effects program now.

Speaker 9 (01:21:13):
Yeah hmm, thanks to Microsoft.

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
Yeah, no joke, I haven't singing app that I use.

Speaker 8 (01:21:19):
And it's got like all kinds of different things, like
there's like a demigorgan and like all kinds of fun stuff,
and so I like to play around with it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:28):
I can make you some fun noises.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
Too. Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Alrighty guys, Well, if nobody has anything else, I'm going
to go ahead and uh we're hitting in the stream.
We can hang out a little bit later or after
the show, and I will.

Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
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off right now on my website. So it's it's my
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I thank you for having me on the show. It
was awesome as always.

Speaker 5 (01:22:04):
Love you guys for visiting really.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Uh and we really enjoy your your ideas on things.

Speaker 6 (01:22:14):
Thank you. I appreciate Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Endzo didn't hear hear whatever I played earlier?

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
Try that in the.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Funny I had the slider turned down. Alrighty guys, Well,
I will like to thank everybody for who are in
the chat and everybody who watched this live tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
And we'll get this up on speakers so that those
of you who listen to it on your podcast providers
can't enjoy it too. Everybody, a good night, good night
in good and we will by Sylvain. We'll talk to
you guys soon. Next show, I believe we're going to

(01:23:13):
be talking about.

Speaker 12 (01:23:17):
Yeah, and a week from Wednesday on border Town Strange,
we're going to be talking about hat Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
And on what If tomorrow for Monday, next Monday, we
are talking about what if we find out a year
in advance that we're going to be hit with an asteroid?

Speaker 8 (01:23:44):
All of them absolutely all right.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
It should be.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
It should be a fun couple of weeks for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
Tune in and.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Enjoy our randomness. Many squirrel.

Speaker 9 (01:24:10):
How many squirrels? That's our new tagle.

Speaker 7 (01:24:14):
We were all waiting with baited breath. What's he gonna say?

Speaker 9 (01:24:17):
Next?

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
Squirrel? What squirrel? What?

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Squirrel boy? Thank you for enjoying my word salad.

Speaker 9 (01:24:27):
For the day.

Speaker 7 (01:24:35):
Lord, we have descended into silliness.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
Well that's fine. That's just a couple of steps above madness,
which is where I usually live. Okay, so it's an
improvement for me before you log it, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
I gotta pull this up now.

Speaker 9 (01:25:03):
I'm scared.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Oh that's just my face.

Speaker 9 (01:25:10):
Fills up to something.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Mm hmmm, two step verify or whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:25:25):
But we will not let you do it now. I
live in fear of squirrels. Yeah, oh yeah there.

Speaker 5 (01:25:45):
Sometimes oh you know, damn it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Sometimes words are hard.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
You get like that, you know balad? Yeah me yummy.
Now it's like am I head like word balad? Yummy? Yummy?

Speaker 9 (01:26:04):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:26:07):
I am constantly serving word salad.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
So anytime you'd like to stop by.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
The squirrel Boyrey.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
We had these guys a little over a week.

Speaker 9 (01:26:32):
What is that piggies? Is it? Baby piggies?

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:26:38):
Ah?

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
How many did you go?

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Yesterday? We had twelve?

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
How many pigs do we have? Yeah, we got a
boar and a sow. We had twelve piglets. We've got
six that are going to the butcher before long, so wow.

Speaker 9 (01:27:00):
And the ones that the Taters are getting butchered taking.

Speaker 7 (01:27:03):
At the Knight's house.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
I'm going yep, for sure, it's Heaven said.

Speaker 9 (01:27:11):
Oh, they look delicious.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Well, I'm hoping to have some left over for the
cookout for the para con.

Speaker 6 (01:27:27):
Hopefully the title together. Hopefully I don't come visit you
in after the fact.

Speaker 9 (01:27:36):
It's not or not the Exorcist. What's that show?

Speaker 7 (01:27:41):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:27:41):
I just blanked Cemetery Amityville. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
That was my brain well before we devolved further into madness.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
I'd like to wish you to night, and I will
talk to you guys in the after show in just
a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Good night, everybody, night.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Night.

Speaker 9 (01:28:11):
H m h m h.

Speaker 11 (01:28:17):
M h

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
M hm