Famous Haunted Cemeteries around the world!

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Have you ever wondered what was out there in the
night sky, stared up at the stars in the hopes
of seeing something out of the ordinary. Have you heard
unexplainable noises coming from a vacant room or watched the
shadow across the wall in front of you. Have you
asked yourself if there is life after this one or
if you had life before? What about strange creatures that

(00:28):
are mythical and elusive? Have you experienced dejeuvu or felt
a prompting to leave because you felt you were in danger.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
If you have, you were on the fringe.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Welcome to an another wild episode of What if Tomorrow
on the Fringe. I'm Mark and my lovely co host.
Tonight is just notebooks.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
So that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Notebook Well, I mean, I wouldn't say kicked her out.
She was just too cool for us today.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, no, we booted her to the curb. That's right now.
Pam has to do some library business tonight, so it's
gonna be me and Mark.

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(02:21):
Hi guys. Wow, Hey, So I'm sure there'll be more, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Because we're talking about some spooky stuff tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I mean, we're on the build up to Halloween. That's
one of the reasons why I picked the cemeteries, because
I mean, this is the build up to Halloween. We
gotta we got to get all the spooky stuff going on.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
That's what we're all about, spooky season.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
If you'll read the description, it says we're on a
whirlwind tour of haunted cemeteries around the world. We might
hit some US ones that we missed last time. We
might not. We've got plenty to talk about, we do.
So the first one I've got on my list now

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we talked about. This name has been used several times.
There's actually one of these in the United States, but
it's named after this one. Gray Friars Kirkyard Cemetery in Edinburgh, Scotland,
one of the most haunted cemeteries in the world, so

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it's pretty cool. Place is located at the southern edge
of the Old Town, adjacent to George Harriot's School, and
it's been in use since the late sixteenth century and
it's got lots of famous people in it. But Gray
Friars takes its name from the friends cisc Franciscan Friary, Yeah,

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where they fry Francisco's no, no, that's.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Where the monks get their French fries.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
On there you go. We're bad, We're gonna go, We're
gonna burn.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
They're all dead by now, right right.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
So the churchyard was founded in fifteen sixty two, so
it's it's been around a while. So this is one
of your classic haunted graveyards.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
It's yeah. It was actually used as a prison during
the sixteen hundreds too, yes, and a lot of the
prisoners that died there they just buried where they were at.
So there's a whole section of that.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh yeah, I mean, I'm just throw them a hole
a little bit. Fine.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
It was kind of convenient, I guess if they're gonna
either already in a cemetery, right, why not?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
So let's see here. Here's so, I mean, we've got
all I've got a huge list of people here. Most
of these names. I don't have any idea who they are,

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but they were famous in their time.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Because it's not around us, so it's just.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Not for us. Yeah, so Ian's probably going to come
over and kick my ass for not knowing all these names.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Just say vehicle a lot. He'll be so drunk he
won't make it.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
There you go, vehicle like hickel. We love you, Ian,
we do. So let me see if I've got any
of the got some pictures.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Well, while you're heating up pictures, I'll talk a little
bit about the hauntings that happened inside. So, as Mark mentioned,
we talked about Greyfriars in the US the last time,
this one of course being in Scotland, and we mentioned
Pam and I didn't realize that there was a Greyfriars
in the US, and we had mentioned Greyfriars Bobby, which

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was a little terrier dog that is now one of
the ghosts of the one in Scotland. And he has
a terrible story, a lovely but terrible story he spent
his life. He was owned by a man named John
Gray who happened to be a night watchman in the area,

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and part of his nightly ritual was walking the cemetery
making sure, you know, nobody was out about when they
shouldn't have been, and his little dog would go with him, Bobby,
and one day he passed, unfortunately, and that little dog
just kept going back to his owner's grave every night

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and would stand watch. And eventually the new night watchman
of the cemetery actually kind of took Bobby on, and
Bobby continued to go with him nightly, but would still
go back to that grave and wait. And then the
dog himself died in eighteen seventy two, I believe, and

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they actually gave him his own grave, although they're not
quite sure if they put the stone in the correct place.
I believe the stone's near the front gate, I believe,
but they're not sure if that's where he's buried. But regardless,
his little the little ghost dog still makes that troop
through the se materia at night and ends up at

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his former owner's grave every night. So it's kind of heartbreaking.
I had a cute at the same time.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, well, I mean dogs are super lawyer loyal, Yeah loyal. Yeah,
So I think I've got a picture of there's Bobby's tombstone.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Now very famously, just outside of the cemetery is a
famous restaurant called Greyfriars, and they installed a bronze statue
of Bobby outside of the restaurant and it's a very
popular spot to go and take pictures with. And the
statue is so beloved. His little nose is rubbed shiny

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from everybody giving him pets. They think he's good luck.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
So well, I mean the dog. Everybody loves dogs. I
like dogs. I won't have a dog because it's not
fair for me to have a dog since I'm never own.
But that's why I have cat. They don't care, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
They absolutely don't care. Greyfriars is also known for the
Black Mausoleum or the Mackenzie Poultergeist, whichever you want to
call it. And this one's a big deal. So George
Mackenzie died in sixteen ninety one and they erected this
huge mausoleum in his honor. I actually couldn't find a

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whole lot of the history on him, why he was such,
you know, big to do, but they have this huge
one and apparently he is the worst poltergeist ever. They
have over three hundred and fifty claims on file right
now of Poultergeist attacks at his memorial and it's it's

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not like I'll bump you or pull your hair a
little bit. They've talked about people being pushed and scratched
and bitten and beaten. People have passed out from it.
One guy got a broken arm. They report hot and
cold spots all around it, knocking noises coming from the

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actual mausoleum, and horrible hair pulling, hair pulling hard enough
that it will yank people back onto the sidewalks.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
The rather nasty situation.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
There he is. And then I did a little research
on it because I thought it was interesting. In two
thousand they brought in a professional exorcist named Colin Grant.
He was hired to come in and like calm the
Poultergeist down at least if he couldn't get rid of
him altogether. Unfortunately, he didn't stay in the mausoleum for

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very long because he said that the polterguys had told
him that he was going to murder him and people
wonder if it came to fruition, because just a couple
of weeks later he died of an unexpected massive heart attack.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Well, he was probably worried the spirit was gonna come,
getting worried himself into a heart.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Attack, he stressed himself out.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, Greyfriars is fun. It's
a it's a beautiful place. Uh, let's see.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, it's also known for shadows and ball light and
a lot of people think they see the monks at
night going in and out of the headstones, and old
grave diggers still digging holes, and every little good cemetery
lore you can think of is associated with Gray Friars.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
So yeah, it's it's pretty cool. Yeah, m all right,
you want to do one, you want me to do
another one, I'll do one.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Right, So I want to talk about Bonice Cemetery in Prague.
This one is an interesting one. The nickname of it
for the locals is called the Cemetery of Fools. So
it opened in nineteen oh six. It's the designated resting

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place for deceased patients of the next door insane asylum.
So we've already got you know, a good start here
with the hauntings, right. Yeah. The insane asylum, which was
called the Bonese Psychiatric Hospital, housed over two thousand patients.
Holy cow, that's a lot. Yeah. The treatments that they

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gave at the asylum included electric shock therapy, sedatives, hydrotherapy,
hot baths, cold cloths, stints, straight jackets, and isolation. Because
that all seems like it will be really helpful.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, that really seems great.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah. The oldest burial in the cemetery from nineteen oh
six is a eleven year old boy without a name,
which a lot of these did. They didn't have names,
They would have a number associated with them, and those records,
of course are long gone.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
This crazy cemetery contains I have a little mini list
of some of the people. A Gavrillo princip He was
a Bosnian Serb student who assassinated Archduke Franz ferzannan heir
to the throne of Austria Hungary, and his wife, which
of course led to the outbreak of World War One.

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Any of you know your military history. He is buried there.
It also has O'taylee Franska and unfortunately she was a
murdered prostitute who was famously found out. She was found
in two separate suitcases. She'd been chopped up. Somebody had

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sent her separated on two different trains in those suitcases,
and then they ended up in Prague, and also her
supposed murderers were buried there too. They never proved it
was him, but he kind of outed himself while he
was locked up at the asylum and he ended up

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committing suicide before he could go to court for all
of that. And his name was Sergei Pavlent Pablik. I
have a horrible that was completely wrong.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Welcome to the friend where we butcher every language imaginable.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah. It also contains forty eight deceased refugees that all
had mental disorders from World War One. Most of all
of them had died from typhoid fever that went through
the area. They closed the asylum and cemetery in nineteen

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sixty three, although they were still doing a few burials
there through the nineteen seventies. So during the eighties it
became big for rituals, if you know what I mean.
They also had issues. The townspeople came in and took
all the crosses down because they were made of iron

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and they wanted to scrap them.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Oh, I've got a picture of where you can see
where they scrapped some crosses there.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, and then a lot, almost all of the headstones
were taken out because people were using them to add
to their buildings. They were using them for sidewalks and
for the steps to their homes and for foundations.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well that sounds smart, doesn't And then it got to
the point where they started filling it full of junk.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
They were using it as like a disposal site, and
then the graves started caving in, so it became really
unusable for quite a while.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Well, yeah, and you've been watching the pictures I've been
scrolling through. The place is still a mess.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, it's getting better though. It's been bought I looked
at in the just the last few years here a
group of people, like a friends of has gotten hold
of it and they have been slowly revitalizing it and
they've started doing haunted tours just to help pay. But
this place has all sorts of weird stuff happening in it.

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So besides like having strange feelings and stuff inside, people
complain of feeling achy while they're inside. They have issues
with anomalies with their phones and with their camera, hot
and cold spots, strange noises and flashing lights that they
can't figure out. There's apparently not any buildings right there

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in that area to create lights, and there's no lights inside,
but they have these weird flashes that happen inside the cemetery.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, Zo says the foundation made from headstones, that'll work out. Well.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Yeah, they never moved the bodies.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
So let's talk about Highgate Cemetery in North London, designed
by Stephen Geary. There are approximately one hundred and seventy
thousand people buried in around fifty three thousand graves. So

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for those of you, pardon me, my allergies are kicking
my button draining. So back in the not so old
in times, it was common when a cemetery got full,
they would dig up all the graves, the skeletons, and

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then they would condense everything and so you would have
multiple burials in one grave site, or sometimes they would
just move the bones someplace else, like a catacomb and
store the bones like they're in a warehouse, so they
would have more room in the graveyard for more modern burials,

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so that those graves could be visited by the family
or whatever. But yeah, in Europe, like the we're going
to talk about the Paris Calaculums later. Basically that's just
body storage. They emptied the semin Terry's clean the bones
up and basically pack them up for storage.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
They still do that in.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, so I mean it. So there's one hundred and
seventy thousand people in fifty three thousand graves. It's uh,
there's a lot of people buried in coffins and urns
as well. So that that leads to that. Let me

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see if I've got the activity, I've got a big
list of graves again. Oh yeah, well like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
There's so many buried there, so let me see, like
Charles Dickens, Karl Marx, George Michael is buried there. Yeah, yeah,
you know faith, the faith, the faith.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Well, I mean it is a very famous cemetery. And
if you're in that, everybody's heard of Highgate. If you're
from Great Britain, I'm sure most everybody's heard of it.
It's like everybody here knowing about some of our famous cemeteries. Ye. Actually,

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maybe just weird because we look for these things.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
But yeah, I've seen the front part of Highgate. I've
never actually been in it, but it's a beautiful cemetery
from what I could see.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah, I've got some pictures completely full.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
So Highgate is famous for the Highgate Vampire.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, so, uh so he has like a whole legend
that goes with him. He's a supposed former medieval noble
men who practiced dark magic in Romania. He died, became
a vampire. His followers brought him back here, actually built

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him a home that he lived in at night when
he wasn't in the cemetery during the day. There's a
whole thing that goes with him. So he's supposedly like
this tall, dark figure that glides through the cemetery at night.
His presence brings a sudden drop in temperature, Watches and

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clocks stop around him. He terrifies animals. He's also blamed
for often found fox carcasses they find in the cemetery.
They assumed that it was him that did it, and
apparently has a hypnotic stare when he's seen. If you
make eye contact with him, which you're not supposed to do.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Well, that's always bad with vampires.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah. Other reports in the cemetery banshee whales, spectral faces,
a floating nun.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Oh, that's always fun.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yes, there's a ghost that rides through on a bicycle
every night. That one's good.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I mean, got to get your exercise, even in the afterlife.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Even get exercise in the regular life. So when you
go to find my spirit, I'll be sitting in my
easy chair with a book.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
There you go, That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Its very threatening.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
They also hear whispers, bells, and footsteps. And then I
have a little list of some of the other bigger
ghosts that are kind of popular there. So there's one
called the Creature. The creature attacks those who walk too
near the fence at night, and it disappears when light
touches it. I actually found some stories about it. If

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you get too new the fence as you're walking by,
it'll come through the fence and attack. But sometimes you'll
get lucky and a car will drive by, and if
the headlights hit it, it'll disappear.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I got a video here of live foxes in the cemetery.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Oh, I bet foxes over there are like deer here, Yeah,
like Armadillo's here. They're everywhere.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
If they are like armadillos, do we find them on
the on the side of the road, propped up with
a beer bottle in their hand or is that just
an American?

Speaker 4 (23:30):
They probably not a beer bottle, maybe like a wine bottle.
I don't know. What do they drink more over there?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I don't know. They drink a lot of beer over there.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah. So Also they have the top hat man and
he walks the cemetery. I'm guessing he's probably more like
a you know, just like a hat man, probably a silhouette.
They have the shrouded figure and it's a depressed female
ghost who only stares at the sky. If approached, she

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simply disappears and then reappears further away. So like the whiney.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Ghost, Ian says Higate is one of the seven cemeteries
known as the Magnificent set in seven, designed and planned
when bodies started falling out of graves and inner London.
Yeah uh. And he also says gin instead of beer.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, there you go. You're all drunk on gin.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
You know what. Put a little remooth in it, and
we've got ourselves a party there.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
You go. They also have a mad old woman ghost
and her story is that she murdered her own children
and now she runs through the cemetery looking for them
with her long, straggly gray hair blowing behind her.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yikes.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yeah. Then there's the Lady of a Pond. She's a
ghost of a woman and all she does is wade
into the pond over and over again. Man, I bet
she gets.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Like, maybe she just really maybe it's just hygiene. Maybe
we got we gotta be clean.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
But if you want like a gross history to Highgate. So,
one of the things that Highgates is known for is
the exploding coffins.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Oh yeah, coffins, I did not find that.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yeah, well, I mean it was actually the tombs. So uh.
When the underground got full, when they had kind of
run out of underground burial spaces, they of course started
putting people in little mausoleums and tombs above ground. The
issue was is that they sealed them up too well,

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and they were up where the sun was shining on
those on the marble and stuff, and it would heat
them up and it would create the bodies would create
an over a amount of gas because they were you know,
they everything was just dying very quickly in it, and
the gas would build up and it would blow the

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tops on the tombs. So what they ended up doing
was because you couldn't open them up, you know all
the time, that would be terrible. So they ended up
drilling little pilot holes into the the sides of them,
and then people thence, well, that alone isn't enough to
vent it. The holes were too small. But you couldn't

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have a huge hole because then you just have that
air leaking out all day long. So what they did
was they had people whose job it was to go
around every day to those little holes and put a
flame near the hole to burn the gas off really quick.
And they would do that for you know, like the first,
you know, so many weeks after a new death, to

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burn the gas off, because otherwise it just blew the whole.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, yeah, thank you Jess for that. Lovely enough.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yeah, hi, gate exploding coffins, the composition, that's the word
I was trying to think of, thank you in so
my gosh, words are hard.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Words are hard.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Decomposing. Yeah, they're decomposing so fast. They're above ground and
the heat is hitting that marble and just toasting it
on the inside and it would just blow those.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Tombs and says it does smell amazing. Well, I mean,
anybody who's passed a deer on the side of the
road knows exactly what. There's a reason why they let
those get hit a few times before they come pick
them up, because when the highway crews try to pick

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them up before they burst, they burst from I try
to pick them up. Mm hmm, yeah, mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Oh dear, all right, what are we gonna talk about now,
let's move along.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Well, it's something not quite so gross. Let's see. Well,
it's your turn.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
What's my turn? Okay, Well, let's do what sounds good. Oh,
I know, let's do the Valley of Piece Necropolis in Iraq.
So it means valley a Piece. I don't have the

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real name down here because it's uber long and uber unpronounceable,
at least for me, so I wasn't even gonna try.
But it means valley a Piece. It's also the oldest
cemetery in the world, and it's also been the longest
running and it's all so the largest in the world.
So it contains over five million graves. How many I

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think I wrote it down? How many acres it.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Was, I don't know, but here's a picture of it.
And for a reference, that line up here that's the
road and those little dots are cars. Yeah, it's it's
bigger than most towns.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
It's been actively used NonStop for the last fourteen hundred years,
if that gives you any any clue what we're looking
at here. So the interesting thing about this cemetery is
it employs multiple grave diggers because it's being used by everyone,

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and unfortunately, they have an extreme turnover rate due to
the high strangeness and hauntings that happen inside the necropolis.
Reports include bodies climbing out of their graves, witches, gin creatures, ghosts, curses,

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all sorts of stuff. It's also famous for something called
the ghouls dine. It's actually a class of gin that
eat the flesh of living and dead humans, and apparently
it's something that is consistently seen inside the cemetery, especially
by the grave workers. They have something else called the Jumper.

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It's a creature that takes on strange forms and jumps
from grave to grave and carries a long metal pick.
It has been seen as a large worm, as a child,
as a dog, and also as a cat dressed in
a large fur coat and it just hops the graves

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with that huge spike. Yeah, it's super weird. They also
have something they call the grave thief, and it's it
goes who takes possession of burial plots that were illegally
resold on the black market to make easy money. And

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I looked it up. Those grave plots sell for around
four thousand dollars US. Oh wow, it's expensive to get
buried there. Yeah, but so apparently, they said many of
the grave diggers, if they managed to stay for any

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length of time at all, retire incredibly early. They almost
all suffer from PTSD and their suicide rates are extraordinarily
high just from working in there, So there's got to
be something to it.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Julie said that she thinks people actually sneak their love
ones in there. They might, I mean uh, And that
happens a lot in ancient burials, where people will sneak
their loved ones into a burial that exists because they

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don't have money, but they want to properly bury their
loved one, so they will put them in the tomb
of somebody else mm hmm, instead of robbing the place
they break in and make a deposit, kind.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Of like those people that dump their family ashes. And
the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disney.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
World probably a type of gin or a type of gin.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
The latter.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
For those of you who are listening, is G I
N or d G D J I N N.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yeah, it's the last one.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
It's the double and said Gin and Tonic.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I think it'd be far less scarier if it was
the first gin. I would think it would be far
more fun.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yes, the first first gin would be much more fun.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, people sneak their loved ones in or dump ashes
where they're not supposed to. I know that, especially on
the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. There's the crew has
to go in through the end. They have to walk
the entire ride before they close at night because they
have to clean out the ashes that people dumped. It
happens nearly daily, and the same for the Haunted Mansion.

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They do it at the Haunted Mansion too. Isn't that crazy?
Could you imagine if you like tossed it a little
too hard and little Billy and the cart three carts
behind you gets a mouthful of Grandpa or something, it'd
be terrible.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
That's why I'm gonna get my ashes mixed into marbles,
nice clean glass marbles. And then when when my loved
ones visit places they think I might want to travel to,
They'll just leave a marble someplace there you go, We'll
have to make marbles because I've already lost mine. But

(34:31):
all right, that's a fun one. Let me see. Let's
see if I can butcher this. Uh hopefully uh Sylvain
is not on here to listen to me butcher this

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CIMATEL dear Pali last chaise.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
I think you did very well.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I may have. It is the largest cemetery in Paris, France,
at one hundred and ten acres, with three point five
million visitors annually. You most visited necropolis in the world.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Yeah, three hundred thousand burials in it.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, it's it's big. M let's see spraxifying the activity
I've got, No, I have got. I would love to

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show you my desktop. I must have fifty tabs along
the top of my second screen here, so it's so
put the dum. There's all kinds of funerary art. Of course, it's.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
A beautiful cemetery.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I had. I cannot find that tab do you have
more on that? Yeah, I do, look for my.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Tab so it's okay. Yeah. Pierre la Chase is a
beautiful cemetery that has a really long history to it.
At one point, while it was a cemetery, it wasn't
prior to it on the land. While it was a cemetery,
there was actually a battle there and a lot of

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people died fighting among the tombstones. That happened back in
eighteen seventy one, So they have ghosts of soldiers battling
inside the cemetery itself. As nutty as that sounds, and.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm sure that all that blood and emotions stirred up
whatever was already there too.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Oh yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Ian Jim, Yeah when he was eighteen.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
On purpose or did you like get drunk and just
pass out somewhere, So the ghost.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Probably been the answer. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Jim Morrison is famously buried there and his ghost is
seen all the time. In fact, uh, the famous ghost
photos are supposedly of him. I don't know if you
could find one of those, Mark, there's a very good one.
It's very plainly him in the background. Someone had taken

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a picture of his grave at the cemetery and bam,
there he is. There's another ghost, uh, Prime Minister Adolph
there or fears. I'm sure how to pronounce that. He
haunts his tomb and he has a tendency to tug
on people's clothing. Her in the vicinity Marcel Proust, who

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is a French novelist, he haunts that area. He was
not buried near his lover, supposedly, and now he walks
the rose hunting for them. Elizabeth stroganoff mausoleum. She died
very young. She was in her late thirties, and she

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was also extraordinarily wealthy. And her tombstone or not tombstone
she has actual mausoleum, comes with a like a a
weird little legend and says it's a long story, involves Russians. Hmm, interesting.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Or vodka Again, I'm projecting my own youth. I'm not
going to be apologetic about it. I may have imbibed
quite a bit. It was still legal to do it

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at eighteen back then, so I.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Mean, it's not when I was eighteen, it didn't stop me.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yes, when I'm old. Let's see, did we talk about
Alan cardex toom.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
No, Well, let me finish. Elizabeth story really quick here, Okay,
So yeah, there's a legend that goes along with her mausoleum.
She was extraordinarily wealthy when she died, and apparently she
left a challenge in her will. She left a challenge
anyone brave enough to spend three hundred and sixty five
days and three hundred and sixty six nights inside her

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mausoleum would inherit a huge sum of money. So apparently
a lot of people have tried to do this, but
no one succeeded. People claim to feel like the life
is being sucked out of them while they're trying to
accomplish it.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
He says, it was nineteen ninety two. Come on, we
all did regretful stuff. Well, mine was in nineteen eighty five.
So fortunately, before cell phone cameras and the Internet, all

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of those photos are hopefully conveniently lost in the somebody's
mom's house. Oh yes, No, I don't think I would
have No matter how much money, I don't think I
would have taken that challenge. No, Alan Kardex tomb is there.

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Founder of spiritualism, is supposedly still present in the cemetery,
and many people report unusual sensations near his tomb m
and is also the Paris Commune execution side I believe,
where one hundred and forty seven communars were executed in

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eighteen seventy one.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yeah, So going back to the Alan Carter card deck,
he has a cemetery game that goes with his oh
cool statue and headstone. Yeah, Mark and I were talking
about this backstage. I had pulled up some of my
old information Pam and I did a whole show on
cemetary games on like last year on Bordertown Strange, and

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it's like the fun stuff you get to do in
order to get to a ghost to come, or you know,
you can foretell of your death, you know, all the
weird stuff you have to do. But this one actually
came with one. So apparently before he died he told
he said out loud to somebody or it was recorded somehow,

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he said, after my death, come to see me, put
your hand on the neck of the statue overlooking my grave,
then make a wish. If your wish is granted, come
back with flowers. And his tomb ever since then has
always been completely covered in fresh flowers every day. So

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apparently it's wow.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
That's that's pretty amazing, isn't that neat? You know, if
I'm ever in Paris, I'll be stopping by to visit
mister cardax toomb there you go. I'm gonna wish to
be skinny. Oh I'm already pretty.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Or maybe they have more gin? The g I n kind.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
I'm not not not real partial to gin.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
I'm not either. I'd actually prefer some whiskey, but it
is what it is.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Well, I mean, I want me to run over. I
can oblige you.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Beggars can't be choosers though.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Right exactly? I mean, yeah, I like gin. You know,
if that's all there is?

Speaker 4 (43:22):
All right?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Who else do we got?

Speaker 4 (43:26):
I've got a few more?

Speaker 3 (43:27):
All righty, go ahead?

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Okay. So we have the ghost of miss Clarion and
the ghost of her lover. So there's a section in
the cemetery called the Alley of Dragons, and inside of
this little area it's haunted by a man whose heart
was supposedly broken by an actress, Mademoiselle Clarion. She's buried there,

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having turned him away, driving him to suicide in life.
So it was kind of like a little back and forth.
But they haunt that area. There's also the ghost of
count Countess Demodolph. I think that's what her name is.
They call her the lady in White. She's, you know,
your average lady and white that pops up in nearly

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every cemetery. She died at the age of forty, and
her story I think has probably gotten mixed up with
the other one that had the little thing left in
the will. It's very very close, so I think they've
been denoted.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
There's always can cross pollination in some of these stories,
especially when the kids get a hold of them, they
forget who they're talking about. Yeah, oh, that was the one.
That was the one.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yeah. In this one, she also left a large fortune behind,
but in hers her entire fortune would be left to
the man who would stay next to her body in
the grave for one year. And in this legend, three
attempts have been made, none of them stayed, and one

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of them went mad, and her ghost is seen walking
around the monument. There's also a theory that she was
a vampire, so there's that one too. And then my favorite,
my favorite grave in that whole cemetery, and it's not haunted,

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it's something else. Victor Noir. I don't know if you
can find his grave. So little Victor. He was kind
of like a playboy in his day. He was kind
of the man about town. He got all the ladies,
but was never married anyway. He died, unfortunately, he died

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in a duel, and when they created his resting place
they made a statue. But he's laying down as when
he fell when he died in the duel. He's very
well endowed the statue. And because he was such a playboy,
he's taken on this like fertility type of idle situation.

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And the ladies in the area go to his grave
to ensure that they get pregnant, or to find a husband,
or to ensure they get a boyfriend. And as you
see in the picture here, oh Victor's area is quite
shiny for than I do, yes, and so are his

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lips are also shiny too. It's also popular to kiss him.
But there, if you go and take a look. I
don't think we should show it here, but if you
go and take a look, if you're interested. There are
many many photos that people have taken from behind other
headstones showing women doing less than nice things with this statue. Yeah, yeah,

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oh Victor, he's still he's still still getting some and
even in death, just saying.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I mean when you got it, you got it, I guess.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Yep, rubbed, very shiny, alrighty.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
So do you have any other cemeteries? Oh? I do.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
One more on that one actually, if you want, go ahead.
So there's also the ghost of the Cursed Lovers. And
this kind of reminds me of a Romeo Juliet kind
of thing, only way illegal. So this is the ghost
of Heloise and Abland or a Billard. Abillard was Heloise's

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much older teacher, and they fell in love and ran
away together. And that doesn't even sound quite bad, but
if you look back at that time period and the area,
almost all teachers were religious people. So not only was

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he hanging out with a girl that was way too
young for him, but he was also a religious person
who would not have been with a woman whatsoever. So
it was kind of a double whammy. So they ran
off together. Her father sent henchman out to go hunt
him down, and they finally found him. They drug them

(48:39):
both back. By this time, she had a baby. They
put her and the baby in the local convent and
locked him up there. And rather than locking him up
because he was a religious man. They lopped his stuff
off so he couldn't do that ever again, unfortunately, And
then they never did see each other again, but they

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wrote to each other and kept the relationship up that way,
and when they both eventually passed, they actually buried them
together there in the cemetery. But that area around their
graves is exceptionally haunted. They say they're people can hear
murmuring all day long and at night, as if they're

(49:24):
like finally getting the chance to talk to each other
one on one again. So you're hearing them talking to
each other underneath kind of creepy.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, let's see. I think I've got another image of that.
There's there two. They have a very nice tomb.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Actually, Yeah, the tombs and the mausoleums and stuff there
are just beautiful.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
So, yeah, that's a sad story. I had forgotten about
that one.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
I never could I couldn't find the actual ages though,
how much older he was than her, though.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I really don't think it mattered in that time period
the age wise. Probably their stations mattered more because up
until recent history, it wasn't unusual to find men who
had had multiple young wives, because so many women died

(50:28):
in childbirth. So I mean even in our own country,
many of our founding fathers, you know, were in their
seventies and had a pretty young wife at home. Yeah,
trying to pass on the family name and whatnot, So
that that was a very big thing, you know, You've

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got to pass on the and honestly, overall was a
much higher mortality rate across the board. So you wanted
to have lots of kids. So some of them made
it through to adulthood.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
All right, what's next, You got one or you want
me to pop one.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Up, go for it?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
All right? So we cannot we cannot uh not talk
about the catacombs of Paris, mm hmm. So here's some
let me share again, share screen. Here are here are

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the catacombs of Parents. They've made art out of all
the bones. Yeah, you know, and can.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
You imagine how many people are represented in just that
one photo?

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Oh yeah, I mean, so they removed remove them from
cemeteries and clean them up, and basically they are warehoused
and actually quite artistically really if you look at it,
it used them for structural integrity of the place. I mean,

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they're I wonder how many tourists go through here every year.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Oh, I can't imagine. I was in I was in
France for a little while and I had an opportunity
to do that. They give tours through these and at
that time got It's been like twenty five is years
ago that I was there, and there was one like

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every hour from like you know, eight in the morning
until and there was like evening tours you could take
like a spooky like candlelit type of tour. So I'm sure.
And I know, like the catacombs go on for a
long ways and there's people who have died in there
because they got lost. They weren't with a tour, they
went down on their own, got lost and died.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Oh yeah, I can see it, especially before electric light.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
But yeah, it's uh, it's it's creepily efficient, if I
must say. But it's one of those things, the anonymity
of the grave. I mean, no matter where their grave was,

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they ended up down here with everybody else, rich and
poor all together.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Yep, unless you were lucky enough to get buried in
one of the churches and then you get to stay.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Yeah, basically, although I.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Don't think that's any better because you're getting walked on
all the time.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
I get walked on all over the time, all the
time at work. I mean, it's not gonna be much different.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Oh wow. In says there's two parts to the catacombs,
the public museum bit and then the off limit, non
public bit. A friend of mine acted as a guide
for the non public areas. That's cool.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
That is really cool. So, I mean, for those of
you who are listening, if you go back on to
YouTube or our Facebook page, I'm scrolling through pictures of
the catcombs as we talk about them. They're really kind

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of amazing. Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
I really should have went and saw them.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I was.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
I was really young at the time, and I just
really wanted to go see the museums and stuff. I
was kind of a nerd, so.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
I mean, you can't still are. Yeah, yeah, I love
that about you.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
I did. However, it was somewhere in I'm wanting to
say Austria, because we traveled around a little bit. We
got to go to a small church that was made
entirely of bones.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, Like the altar.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
Was bones, and the chandeliers were bones and everything and
it was made of bones. It was incredible. So I
did get to see that.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
So some of the reported phenomenon. I mean we ought
to talk about that. I mean, we could just go images.
We could just do images all night of this place.
Oh lord, Yeah, whispers and footsteps are heard and other
unexplained noises. Vanishing explorers. We just talked about that. People

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disappeared and been found dead in including one particularly chilling
tale involving a found cam quarter showing a man's descent
into madness.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Wow, I have to climb to get to madness. It's
no longer a descent.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
I do know. There are stories of they call them
like phantom callers. You'll be if you're down there, like
by yourself, sometimes you'll hear what you think is somebody
calling out, like trying to make their way through, or
like trying to call you, you know, like come this way,
and you're not to follow them because it'll, you know,

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you'll end up lost and die somewhere in the catacombs
because of it.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Let's see, they've got guardian spirits. Some believe the spirits
of those buried within the catacombs act as guardians, sometimes
deterring or punishing those who trespass. Mm hmm. The ghost
of Bilbert asked are art when it goes to Philip. Philbert,

(57:16):
a doorman who died in the catacombs, is said to
haunt the labyrinth, particularly around the anniversary of that. I'm sorry,
I'm going to totally butcher his name, uh Philibert, not Philbert.
Oh as it.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Might be like Philip Bear.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Yeah, I butcher mind language. I can't help butchering everybody else's.
I I apologize that. It's just what you get, Just
what you get. Yeah. So yeah, they, I mean there's

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a lot of but the activity is all pretty consistent
around there. There's no no phil Bear is you know,
one of the few name was. There's so many people there,
their names are lost to history. Oh yeah, they're just
in there. Yeah, but I mean kind of a way.

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You're never going to be alone either.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
So could you imagine if they tried, if they had
tried to keep records of everyone that went down there,
you would have to have catacombs for the paperwork.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Yeah, I mean there would be sacks and sacks and
sacks of just the paperwork just to keep the records
on all the people that went down there. It would
have been entirely impossible.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Yeah, especially since when most of those people were being
stored down there. There weren't that any people who were
educated enough to keep said records.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Yeah, and there were.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
You know, no computers, no file cabinets, and it was
just you know, it would have been impossible.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Yeah. And I'm sure if you were on the lower levels,
if you were one of the poorer, nobody kept records.
If they passed, you passed, and you got buried wherever
they could put you, and that was it. And if
you got you know, disinterred later, you just got put
down there and no one knew who you were.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Yeah, Ian says, that's what the Vatican Archive is for.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
There's no room in the Vatican Archive. It's all full
of you know, all that stuff they're hiding from us, right, Yeah,
chron Advisor and the Ark of the Covenant and all
of that.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Uh. Well, you know the thing about the catacombs, the
reason I don't think they have such energetic commings, I
guess I would say, I wonder if it's not, because
you know, there's whole families down there, of course together,

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but it's almost like a community of the dead. Everybody's there.
Huncle Phil's down the road a little bit. You know,
all your neighbors end up there eventually. It's just like
old home day. You're never alone.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
No, you're never alone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
You're never alone. So I mean that's actually that's actually
kind of comforting when you think of it that way. Yeah,
so all right, let's see if I can get any weirder.
I'm betting I can.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Challenge and accepted.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
It's not a challenge. H I tried to be normal once.
It was worse ten minutes of my life.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
That's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Why would you never do that to yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Trying to get a job.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Okay, let's let's talk about let's let's move along. Let's
do the the labor look at a cemetery and Buenos Aires.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Ooh, I have that one here someplace in one of
these tabs.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Yeah, so Buenos Aires, Argentina. Well, Mark's looking for his notes.
I'll get started a little bit. This one has several
several ghosts in it with some really interesting histories to them.
So the first one I have is the ghost of
Rafina Rafina cam the Saires, That's what I'm guessing how

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it's pronounced. She died night. And this one is one
of those scary cautionary tale type of hauntings, so she
actually suffered a seizure one night while getting ready to
go out with her mother for the evening. Hours later,
she passed. Unfortunately, her death was confirmed by two different doctors.

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She was buried in a tomb at the cemetery when
suddenly rumors of strange noises coming from her burial place
started popping up by the cemetery workers. The workers ended
up going to check on her grave, only to find
that her coffin lid was sitting slightly ajar and they
opened it to find that there were scratch marks all

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over her face and on the inside of her coffin lid.
Apparently she was not dead. She woke up, tried to
get her way out of there, and they assume by
the autopsy, which I'm sure wasn't very great back in
nineteen oh two. I'm sure they weren't quite annoying what
they were looking at, they assumed that she died of

(01:03:07):
a heart attack. I heck, she could have died from exphyxius,
for you know, all we know from not being able
to breathe in there. I'm sure she ran out of
oxygen fairly quickly. Yeah, But her mother was so guilt
ridden for having buried her daughter alive. She reburied her

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in a huge mausoleum tomb in her honor, and they
built a statue for her, and her mother made sure
the statue was on the outside of the door so
that her daughter would never feel trapped again, but apparently
it didn't dissuade the haunting. The sounds of yelling and

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scratching can be heard from inside the mausoleum, and reports
of the statue's hand moving on the door to the
vault because the statue stands with its hand on the door,
and the statue's face having the look of horror on
it is reported, which I scare the but Jesus out

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of me. Could you imagine like looking at a statue
and it looks fine and you look away, Yeah, that's
it right there, and when you look back at it,
it's like that face of horror on it. That'd be
freaky as hack. Yeah. So she was buried alive, unfortunately,
and that one's a true story, though.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
There is a lot of those that happened a lot
mm hmm. That's one of the reasons why they x
saying what you ate you before they bury you? Now
you're for sure, did Yeah, people wake up in the
morgue all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Yeah, one of the reasons why they created all those
weird contraptions with burials, like the little bell tower that
would connect so you could ring the bell in case
she woke up still alive. Phones, yeah, phones inside, all
sorts of crazy stuff. There was one I don't know
where it was, but I've read about it before. This

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lady lost her husband and she was so sure that
he was still alive that she had a string run
from his grave up to the top and then across,
and then it went into her house with a bell
on it, so she would know if he was still alive.
Could you imagine just sitting there waiting for a beld ring.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
It is a beautiful cemetery.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
It is gorgeous. Highly haunted though. The next one I
had was the ghost of Liliana. She died in eighteen
seventy at the age of twenty six. She actually died
in an avalanche in Innsbruck, Austria, on her honeymoon.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Oh no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
So the interesting thing about hers is her tomb includes
a bronze statue of her in her wedding dress, and
her pet dog, which actually died not too long after
her before they got the statue erected. Actually the dog
is buried there with her, which it wasn't supposed to be.
It was a big like thing back when they did it.

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We weren't allowed to bury a dog in the cemetery,
but they did it anyway. The interesting thing about her
tomb is it's three stories tall. Two stories down underground
is the where her actual coffin is, and it's in
her remade bedroom. Her entire bedroom was duplicated all the

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way down to the throw pillows underneath her tomb, like
they they put everything back into it, just like her
bedroom was at home. Kind of creepy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
That is kind of creepy, but I kind of dig
it if you get the money, I mean, why not.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Yeah, Apparently it says here it was full of Persian
rugs and silk cushions. So the haunting involved with that
one is she and her dog are seen walking the
cemetery and apparently it's good luck to rub the dog's nose,
which is shiny from being rubbed, kind of like Grayfire's Bobby,

(01:07:36):
his little nose is all shiny.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
I don't think I have an image of that one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Yeah, it's her name is hard to pronounce. Her last
name is s z a s z a K.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Can't help you. I'm gonna butcher it even worse just
trying to puzzle it out.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
But anyway, Yeah, Terry also has a lady in white.
Don't all cemeteries have a lady in white or something?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I think it's a requirement to be an actual cemetery.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Yes, so, And this story that I'm going to tell,
everyone who's listening already knows the story, so but I'm
going to tell it anyway. It's the story everyone knows.
So one chilly night, a young man offered his coat
to a lady outside of the cemetery who looked cold.

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They talked for a bit and then he went home.
And the next day he returned to a nearby residence
that she had said was her home to retrieve his
jacket from her, and on his way past the cemetery,
he recognized his jacket hanging over a headstone. It dawned

(01:08:53):
on him what had happened, and made a hasty retreat.
So that is the same, almost like the hitch hiking
ghost kind of story.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Right, that's a very common. It's a very common theme.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Yes, it's highly prevalent in the US, and as you
can see, it's highly prevalent down in you know, Buenos Aires.
It's e're up. Anywhere you go, you're gonna hear a
some kind of a version of that story, kind of
like the hitchhiking ghost. You know, the guy picks up
the wayward girl on the side of the road. She

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tells him where she lives, and when he pulls up
to her house, she disappears. And he goes and knocks
on the door, and the lady tells him, well, that
was my daughter, but she died thirty years ago. Yeah,
we get a little lesson in urban legends, urban legends
one on one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
However, this ghost, they've kind of like pinpointed it to
one particular grave. They think that she is lose Maria
Garcia Veloso, who was a fifteen year old girl who
died of leukemia in nineteen twenty five. I tell very seriously,
I think she was probably just the closest or the

(01:10:15):
coolest looking grave in that section. So they chose it
and gave it this old legend. Oh my gosh, Yeah,
it's old. It's old. An old old hill. The last
one I have is the ghost called the grave Digger,
and this one's an interesting one. His name was David

(01:10:37):
Olino and he was the local grave digger for that
cemetery for thirty years before commissioning his own statue and
unfortunately taking his own life shortly after he ordered it.
He now haunts the tomb that he designed, and reports

(01:10:58):
include strange feelings around to the sounds of digging and
the sounds of keys jiggling right before dawn.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Yeah, so that is the Buenos Aires haunted Cemetery.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Yeah, yeah, right. So let's see, is the glass vane
on your list?

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
Huh, go for it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Last vein. So this is in Dublin, Ireland. It's a
large cemetery which opened in eighteen thirty two. Holds graves
and memorials, several notable figures. Has a museum. Uh it's
in glass and glass and even glass. I don't know,

(01:11:55):
it's yeah, it's It's in Dublin in two parts. The
main part with his trademark high walls and watchtower, is
located on one side of the road from bengaliss to
the city center, while the other part St. Paul's is
located across the road and beyond a green space between

(01:12:15):
two railroad lines. It is a lovely cemetery, of course.
So let me see. I've got some hold on five
hundred tabs here. I really should learn and not do that,

(01:12:44):
you know me, I probably will not, or maybe I
just need another monitor.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
Maybe you should just get some notebooks.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
I mean I could.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
Enthusiastic I like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Saving everything to a million tabs. I'm leaving it set
for twenty four hours so that I can come back
to it and not remember where anything's.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
At and be completely confused.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Let's see. So let's see, dum dump dum tab tab tab.
They've got a pub called Grave Diggers, remember that. Okay,

(01:13:40):
I've got some pictures, but it's it's got Oh those
were not the pictures for that. That was another cemetery.
I guess I'm just not really as prepared as I
thought I was on this one. So uh, it's the

(01:14:07):
largest cemetery in Ireland.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
The most famous is uh disturbed. So there is that
of a Newfoundland dog. It's one of the big ones.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Let's see, come on open and it crashed all right?

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Talking about haunted cemeteries, everything always goes wrong when you're
talking about haunted stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Uh, there's John Cavanaugh's uh the Grave Diggers Bar, it's
supposed to be haunted. Dang it, I just totally lost

(01:15:06):
that tab. I'm sorry, folks.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
That's all right. So we've gone through quite a few cemeteries.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
So we really have. There's just when you get to
talking cemeteries. Thanks Julie. Well, the other day I closed
all my tabs at once. That was fun. But when

(01:15:36):
you get to talk to cemeteries, every cemetery, I am
going to go out on the limb and say every
cemetery probably has some reported activity.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
I mean everyone I've ever been to has legends. Some
of them just have more than others. And whether it
be because size so or famous people are buried there,
or they had a really active newspaper who like to,
you know, and shine things up a little bit, embellished

(01:16:12):
a little bit, most of these hauntings have a grain
of fact in them. I mean, like Bobby, you know,
I'm sure that that dog has not left his owner
to this day.

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
So you know, anybody who knows dogs, they can smell
where you are, even when you're buried. They know where
you are, and they will come back. They are the
most loyal creature on the planet. Julie said, she's a
multitab person too. She feels my pain. I appreciate that.

(01:16:54):
I try to be better. I've been trying to print
stuff out. I there was just so much stuff. I said, well,
I'll just use tabs. It's easier, and it is easier
until you you know, delete the wrong one. Uh. But yeah,

(01:17:14):
when you're talking, Senator, almost all of them haunted. We've
got a couple of them that we like to visit
from time to time to check on the hauntings there
because you get you get to be where you feel
like you know the spirits there. Ah, if you know,

(01:17:37):
if you're serious about paranormal or what not at all.
And some of these obviously are made up and embellished,
but of a lot of them, there's a reason people
see these things, and it's because there's something going on.

(01:17:57):
I truly believe that. And then some of it, obviously,
if you just use your own discernment, you can sort
through there and figure out which ones or bs. And
of course there's always going to be a certain group
of people who says, oh, you know, you're imagining things.
Oh it's group fink or mass hysteria or whatnot. I mean,

(01:18:22):
you can think that if you want, but I think
the world is slightly poorer for it. I mean, I'm
I'm I'm a skeptic, but I also believe that there

(01:18:42):
is something else. I mean, all this stuff can't just
happen and not have something to it. Mm hmmm. So
I enjoy scrolling through these stories and reading about the
famous hauntings and quite frankly, some of the st stories

(01:19:04):
that you read about these people who are buried in
some of these cemeteries. Some of them are sad, some
of them are happy, some of them are inspiring. So
when you see those big monuments in the cemetery, you think, wow,
these people were really rich. Well maybe they weren't really rich.
Maybe their family just really really cared and wanted to

(01:19:29):
show the world. So just think about that, and we
don't do things as grand as they did back in
the day. Generally, some of these cemeteries are worth visiting,
not for the stories, not for the you know, ghosts

(01:19:51):
or whatever. Some of them are just worth visiting for
the history and the architecture.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
Yeah, interary art is amazing show on art Yeah we did,
so how to read the stones.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
And get on YouTube and look up border Town Strange
and check that episode out. I bet they've got lots
of great pictures. Check it out on your local podcast
provider and check out our back catalog on on spreaker.

(01:20:33):
You can go through all of our shows make fun
of us all you want. I'm sure we could probably
go through a few more. I think we've we've covered
a lot of the big ones there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Yeah, we've covered the big ones.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
We might revisit some of these, uh later, if send
us a message on are what if Tomorrow podcast group
or what if Tomorrow Media page, just drop a line
and say, hey, we're more. We want to listen to

(01:21:11):
more on this one. Why not? We can do a
deep dive. That's always fun. But with that being said,
I think I think this is probably a good stopping point. Me. Yeah,
I deleted half a dozen tabs that I didn't intend to,

(01:21:34):
so it's a It's about an hour and a half,
so we try not to make them too long. So anyway, folks,
I hope you've enjoyed our our breakneck tour through haunted
cemeteries around the world. There are so many more. Like

(01:21:54):
I said, we'll revisit this again. I am certain, uh,
but leading up Halloween, I just I just love the hauntings. Yeah,
the hauntings are fun. So if you've got a good
story about a handed cemetery that you're aware of, hey,

(01:22:15):
send us a drop us a line, tell us your
story and maybe we can do a deep dive on that. Yeah,
I'd love to do that. Julie says. We could go
for three hours. Julie, I would love to go for
three hours, but three am comes real early for me.
So my day job is starts early and in is late. Yeah.

(01:22:42):
So unfortunately this is not a money making thing for us.
We do it because we love it and no other
reason reason. And no other reason. I love talking with
my friends, and I love hanging out with you guys
in the chat room. And we will catch you again

(01:23:03):
in two weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Next week, Mark is going to be on border Town
Strange right along with Enzo and Pam will be back
again and we're going to have on Big Willie, who
is kind of dipping his toes back into podcasting again,
so we're going to have him on and we're going
to talk about Strange.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Michigan Michigan madness.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
Yeah, which is where Big Willy hails from. So he's
kind of the guru on all crazy that comes out
of Michigan. It's going to be a big one.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
We love Big Willie.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
All right, folks, well we will catch you all in
a week on Wednesday on border Town Strange, and in
two weeks from today right here on What If Tomorrow
on the Fringe. Good Night, everybody, good night.

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