Halloween Fun and Arkanas Paranormal Expo!

Mark and Pam Talk about Halloween, Nightmare on Bradley and the Arkansas Paranormal Expo!
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Have you ever wondered what was out there in the
neight sky, stared up at the stars in the hopes
of seeing something out of the ordinary. Have you heard
unexplainable noises coming from a vacant room or watched the
shadow across the wall in front of you. Have you
asked yourself if there is life after this one, or
if you had life before? What about strange creatures that

(00:27):
are mythical and elusive? Have you experienced dejo vu or
felt a prompting to leave because you felt you were
in danger.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
If you have, you were on the fringe.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Welcome to another episode of On the Fringe. I'm Mark
and I'm Pam.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yay, it sounds like we're missing a little bit there.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Huh, we are missing a little bit, but I mean,
you know, that's just how it goes sometimes. Yeah, before
we get started, I've got some housekeeping and take care
of And.

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Now on with the show.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
And we're back. So Pam got to go to the
Arkansas Paranormal Expo this last weekend two days Friday and Saturday,
and or was it Saturday and Sunday. It was Saturday
and Sunday, Saturday and Sunday. And it sounds like a

(02:18):
good time was hand by all, So yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
It was. It was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I'm wanting to go now.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
So yeah, oh one hundred percent. I would encourage you
anybody to go. I know it's a little bit of
a drive. It's like four or five hours from here,
but y'all it's amazing. They have some pretty big names
that come in Mark if you want to pull that up,
and we can see a lot of the speakers did

(02:47):
make it. There's Ken Gearhart, he's a cryptozoologist. There's Debbie Zigelmeyer,
she's Missouri. Moufon that fits you. He's the Belwitch expert
and unfortunately Bishop Long wasn't able to be there. He
ended up with COVID. I believe Martha Hazard Decker. She's
from Texas and she has a lot to do with

(03:08):
the Uh. The Hillhouse in Mineral Wells and h Next
is Keith Age right there and he is a director
and producer on quite a few shows. I don't know
if you've ever seen Death Tunnel or it's based on
Waverley Hills. And he was premiering Bourbon Spirits, which is

(03:32):
a new paranormal YouTube channel that they're doing. And actually
last year when we went out to a muck when
we went out to Bell Mansion in Fort Wayne, Indiana,
that's who we met out there was Keith and he
we thought we were interviewing people and we were the interviewees,

(03:53):
so it was kind of cool. So we're supposed to
show up in one of the episodes. And then Adrian
and Tina Scalf with Adrian's the A and the Group.
He's from Arkansas and they have some really good presentations.
Actually they were at the Knee Para Con this year too.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, he helped us out a lot with the.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Did he guest moderated and yeah, and then Robert Swain,
he's a really big Arkansas cryptozoologist, bigfit dude. And then
at the bottom is Carol Page. She is a renowned psycheek.
She's amazing. I was really impressed with her. And then
there's Margie k at the end, and unfortunately she was
not able to attend either. But you know what, even

(04:37):
with a couple that were missing, they did a little
bit of shuffling and were able to give a couple
of the speakers additional time and it was seamless. They
did an amazing job. Yeah, and it's ten dollars at
the door. And the cool part is it's at the
MacArthur Museum of Arkansas Military History. And it's a gorgeous building.

(05:00):
Oh my gosh, it's so neat. And it's on the
National Historic Registry, so you know, you've got all that
history going on in there too in the middle of
all this. But all the proceeds go to the museum,
which is amazing.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah. That that that's a good that's a good thing
right there right there. Very cool. All right, so we're
next ready for the next line here? Yeah, absolutely, I
recognize those people.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah, there's Adrian and me uh, Monk did have a
live well, we had a podcast table, so we were
live streaming off and on through the throughout both days,
and we cross streamed over onto border Town Strange too,
so you might have. If you didn't catch us at
either one, go check it out. It was It was fun.

(05:53):
We had people coming and going and it was all
kinds of crazy in there. I talked to Ronda, she's
the host of the entire benefit, and they had eight
hundred and sixty five people come through the doors. That
is incredible. That is really good.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
We're happy to hit around two hundred for hours we
are one day, yes, so that's something to aspire to you.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
It was kind of fun. Adrian and I we ended
up being on the news on Channel seven and you
were on the TV. Just like the psychic said.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Remember we had a psychic tell us that at an
event one time that Pam was going to be famous.
So there you go, so funny, Hm, there you go,
you right, TV.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
So it's true, and there we thought he was crazy.
Maybe he had had a little bit more going on.
He was very crazy. There's no prediction anything.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I think he was just like you would you know.
He was a nice kid. Though he was.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Nice, but yeah, his skills were lacking. That he was
having an off night if nothing else.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Maybe maybe he's because he's a young kid. Well to me,
he's a young guy. Uh and he's had a few
years to practice. I'm sure he's gotten much better. I
hope so.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, me too, Yeah, I hope so for his sake, he.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Was a hell of a good kid though he was.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
It was a fun night, yep, for sure. And there's
miss Shaw. She was right across the way from us,
and she was representing Exploring the Paranormal Perspective, which is
her podcast, and she was catching people for interviews and
just pretty much getting to talk to everybody and meet

(07:51):
everyone and it was great. We got a lot of cool,
cool stories from people.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Sweet mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
And that on the left side there is I'm not
this is terrible. I'm not one hundred percent sure who
the lady is in the tied but next to her
is Tina scaff that's Adrian's wife and they had their
River Valley paranormal table set.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
One of the young ladies who went to the castle
with us. No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Okay, I think you're thinking of Robin. That's not that's
not her.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
No, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
And then oh, on the right, oh back, can you
back up one? Yeah, on the right, that's Keith Age
and that's his wife, Robin that's with him. And there's
some of their movies that he has produced setting there,
and then Bourbon Spirits and he was selling t shirts.
I ended up buying one, so they're pretty cool. No, yeah,
he's a cool dude, man, says Robin. And there's King

(08:52):
Gearhard and his girlfriend, super super nice people, and he
is very well versed in uh cryptids. He's really really
interesting to listen to.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Excellent, excellent.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah. And then on the right there is Robert Swain
and his wife and I think that's their son that's
with them. But he had a new book come out too,
on Arkansas Cryptos so or Arkansas Big Fit, I should say, nice. Yeah,
and it's really I did not get that one. I
wish I would have. I thumbed through it because somebody

(09:28):
picked one up. I think it was it might have
been Ken r Ken Ken Rameller, or it might have
been Adrian, I'm not sure. Somebody picked it up and
I got to thumb through it and it looks cool. Yeah,
hopefully I can talk him into letting me take a
peek at it.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
All right. Oh, there's there's our Pam Yay.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
And that is Pat fits Hugh and he's of the
Belwich infamy. He started getting interested in that when he
was young boy and his mom told me the story
and then talked about the people still being alive that
were descendants, and that got his interest because he's really
into history. And so he has spent I think he

(10:14):
said thirty five or forty five years I can't remember
which fascinated with the Bell Witch.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Oh wo.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
And he's written a couple of really good books. I
own one of them. That's That's excellent. Super cool dude,
super super nice.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I can't say enough nice stuff about him. He's a
good guy.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
All Right. I'm definitely going to have to hit this
up next year.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Oh you've got to, man, it is so much fun.
And there's Miss Martha back there. She was selling her books.
She's written on the Hunted Hill House that's in Mineral Wells, Texas.
And she's retired police so she really has an interesting

(11:00):
on investigating and she's just she's awesome. She hung out
with that, We hung out with her every chance we
could get I should say, yeah, she's great. She has
got a great, wicked sense of humor too. And then
on the right, the lady that's there with me, that's Rohnda.
She's the host of the entire get together. This woman

(11:23):
is a force to reckon with. She has got it
going on. This was their thirteenth year of putting this on. Oh,
they missed twenty twenty and twenty twenty one due to COVID,
But other than that, yeah, it's been thirteen years where
they've actually had it. So over the last fifteen years,
thirteen of them.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Well, see that makes me feel better. So if we
get ten more years under our belt, maybe we can
have an event this big.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Right, And then there's Ken in the background. He's photobominous.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
He kind of looks like Santa Claus back there.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
He plays Santa Claus. Did you know that? I did
not know that he's played Santa for uh. I want
to say, I think he said the last five years maybe.
And he's fantastic at it's.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
It's a fun job. I enjoyed doing it.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
And he's got the beard for it, you know, he
keeps it. He it on now. Yep, yeap. So he's
got the real deal. If they tug on it, you
know it's not coming out.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, exactly, leave me alone, kid Ken.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
He's he's the Missouri that's in the Amuck podcast and
he's from Saint Louis. So he traveled quite away and
he did the night before Friday night, he did spirits
in the garden at uh the Saint Louis. Oh, I'm
losing the name of it. It's the uh, yeah, said
the Botanical Gardens. And he didn't leave there until nine thirty.

(12:47):
And then he drove all night and he made it
like an hour outside of Little Rock before he stopped.
He was exhausted, but he was a good sport, kept
that smile going the whole time.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I've not met many people who smiled as much, smiles
as much as Kim he is. He's a fun guy.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
He is a fun guy. And he has the best
dad jokes I've.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Ever heard, even better than mine.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
I know, I was getting ready to say, whoops, You've
got some pretty darn good ones too.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
The mine's are mine are bad, and the worst they are,
the more I like them.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Right, That's what makes him so fabulous. But yeah, he's
a great guy.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
If I could make people grown, my day's made.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
This right here. I wanted to add this one in
because this was a slow moment on Saturday, and there
were people just in and out, and if you look,
you can see where it's his duty on our country.
That was the hallway where there was a staircase, and
then on beyond that was another room with the speakers
where they've vended, and then beyond that is just to

(13:56):
open into the lecture hall. So it's all just right
there and everybody's just falling back and forth. And then
we were on the second floor. There's a whole other
floor down below that was full of vendors, and then
there were also outside vendors, so it's a pretty big deal.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
N nice.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
And there was a food truck son of a butt
barbecue is what it's called. They were really good, well, well,
thank goodness, well right, and there was a little bit
of cause play going on. Here's a yep yep, and
he had the mouth. He was able to work the
mouth too. It was great stand there and do it.

(14:33):
It was it was awesome. He walked in and I
was like, yep, yep, yeah, it's pretty cool. And if
you don't know what yip yip is. It's they were
off of Sesame Street when Mark and I were kids.
I guess they're still on there. I don't know if they're.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Right right.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
When we had to watch them in person. Okay, these guys. Okay,
so this is Central Arkansas Ghostbusters and we actually had
them on a during the event and we found out
some super cool stuff about them. I did not know
that Ghostbusters is like a national franchise where they have
these groups that are under their LLC, I guess is

(15:15):
what you would call it, but their different chapters, and
these guys happen to be the Central Arkansas chapter and
they dress in the flight suits and you know they
have the proton packs and you know they got their
slimer there with them. But uh, they what they do.
Everything that they do is for donations to heroes and angels,

(15:40):
So any money that they bring in ghosts directly to that.
And they do things like birthday parties and they go
to the hospitals and visit kids or you know, whoever
needs a little encouragement and the family calls that, they're
more than happy to go do it. And it's not
just these two guys. There's a few more that just
aren't in the picture with them there. But they're so

(16:02):
fun because they come around and they'll do the dances,
you know, and and at the end of our live
with them, they both see how they're pointing. They both
did the whole Ghostbusters thing how they do it. It
was awesome. They're super cool. Wow they are. They're the
nicest people too. I had taken actually got my picture

(16:24):
taken with them last year, but I didn't get to
talk to them very much. But it was great. We
sat down and talked at least an hour with them.
But you know, there are people would come through and
you see the cards that are laid out. They would
test your esp with you and things like that. And
Shaw Shaw got five in a row.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
We were just floored. He said he thought that might
be the record for one right after the other.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, but it was really cool, super nice guys. The
one standing out that's Brandon. I can't remember his last name,
but the guy that's sitting his name's j Paul. I
believe it his last name's Paul. But yeah, super cool people.
And there's Miss Debbie Ziggemeyer. She is the assistant director

(17:12):
of Missouri Muffon, which is the mutual UFO Network. She
did a couple of presentations and I had to pick
up I wanted to get both of her books, but
by the time I got over there, one of them
was already sold out. But I did get this one,
which is the Alien Colonization of Earth's Waterways and it's

(17:34):
fascinating stuff. I heard her lecture on it. That's why
I wanted to get a copy of it. So Mark,
this is something that you'd get into as well. We
need to show this one that Enzo. Enzo would get
a kick out of this, Yeah, for sure. I don't know.
Did I show Kin's book Ken Gearheart's There's the Essential
Guide to Bigfoot from Ken So and he had a

(18:00):
kid's written a ton of books and he had I
think it looked like he had all of his titles
there to sell. And that's the fun part when you
got we go to these things and you meet the authors,
they'll sign him right there for you too.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
So yeah, I do too. Yeah. Debbie's super cool. We
are going to have to have her on sometime. We've
had her on a monk before. She she's fascinating and
she is so personable.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
She's a lot of fun, nice nice. I would love
to hear her speak.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh she's she's phenomenal. And oh a fun fact about Debbie.
You know, we all are really digging the thirty seventh
Parallel book that's about Chuck. I can't think of what
his last name is, Zelenski.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
It might be is that it No, something like that.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
It's it's it is uh. It is a Polish surname.
And I know that because Debbie told me for sure.
She is Chuck's sister. And in the thirty in the book,
the thirty seventh Parallel, she is the person that is
chased from Kansas. Yeah, clear back into the southeast or southwest. Yeah,

(19:17):
that's her. It's pretty wild.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
It is dark, is that it? That is it? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:26):
That's that's called Pam. Pam throwing a slide show together
really quick and accidentally leving a few black mens on there.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, there's a lot of black ones there.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
I just sat there and I was like, duplicate, do
do do do?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Do? So?

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, you guys, if if you're interested in this stuff,
I would highly encourage you to go to it and
just get a taste of it. I mean, it's a
bit of a drive. We did get We got hotel
rooms for two nights, but it's worth it.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Man.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
There's great place is to go around Little Rock too
while you're there to visit.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
There's lots of airbnbs and stuff there.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Oh yeah, there's a bunch and there's hotels right there
around the museum too. But they have a really hopping downtown.
And Jelly Roll was just in town like two days
before we were there, and he was at a place
right next door to a restaurant called Gus's Chicken, Gus's
Hot Chicken maybe I think I can't remember the exact name,

(20:29):
but I know it's Guses. And he went in and
he was like, Okay, anybody in Little Rock that comes
to get a meal, I'm buying it. It's on me.
So yeah, we were like, that'd be cool because it's
I guess it's really good food. And we went downtown
to try to eat there, and there was no getting
anywhere near it. Oh yeah, So we ended up at

(20:50):
where'd we end up? Cracker Barrel. That's where we ended
up at.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah. I ate for the first this year. I ate
for the first time Cracker Barrel. Really, Yeah, I was
with you.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Oh, that's right. We were Where were we Topeka? We
were in Tepeka, weren't we We were on our way
home from Geneseo I think or Wamego maybe.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, we were on our way back from Omego.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Yeah, we stopped at Topeka.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
It's good stuff, good stuff. It's not bad, not bad,
all right. So it sounds like you had a really
good time.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
We had a ball and you get to meet so
many cool people and you get to hear so many stories.
You know, there's people that come just just to meet
other people that will listen to their stories. So yeah,
we got to listen to a bunch that haven't been
recorded before. And it was it was neat, it was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Well we'll have to take Inzo.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yes, oh, Inzo would just be over the moon at
this place.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Absolutely for sure.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
I think Scott I'd love it too. With the crypto guys.
Are the crypto guys that are there?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
I bet he would, I bet he would. So yeah,
I mean there were some pretty good names.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
There, so yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
That was my weekend. And we made it home at
three o'clock in the morning this morning, and then I
worked from nine to six and here I am.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I promise I won't keep you on too long. It's
all right, I will try to wrap up around.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Sounds good to me.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
All right, Well, hang in there as long as I
need to, though, I don't know if Jess is going
to make it on here tonight. But we wanted to
talk about Nightmare and Bradley.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
We did, and we have some slides of Nightmare and
hopefully Jess, if you get a chance to jump on,
you can. If you can't, hopefully we will do you.
We will do you good on this, all right.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
A Nightmare and Bradley is an event on Halloween night
that Jess and her husband put on. And it is
it's amazing. It's all nightmare before.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
It's all Tim Burton related, all Tim.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Burton related stuff, and the whole yard and the side
yard and around the back. It's just a little maze
there that they've got with the inflatables kind of people
literally drive from all the surrounding towns, like a thousand
or more people they had.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
I want to say last year, I'm trying to pull
numbers out of my head here, I want to say
it was around eight hundred that came through, and y'all,
that's impressive because our little town only has maybe a
population of about seventeen or eighteen hundred now, and that
many people are going through at Halloween.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
People came from Independent Coffeeville, Bartlesville, yep. And that's just
the ones that they count. I don't know how many
sit out in the cars and what.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
No, that's true. It's a good point. But they've been
doing this. She can correct me if I'm wrong. I
think it's I want to say it's been about six
years now.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
It's been a while. Yeah, it was a little bigger
every year it does.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, And if you go on to the next slide,
you'll see this is kind of I'll go one more, sorry,
this is kind of how it started, and you'll see
it's just a it was very small. Still cool as
hell though. And the best part and something that I

(24:40):
really wanted to focus on on this when we did
this presentation, was the artwork. If you guys do know
or don't know, Jess is an incredible artist, and so
she is, and so a lot of this if you
see it, the artwork, it's hers, it's she has made
the stuff herself. The only things she really didn't make.

(25:01):
Were the inflatables, you know, and the cool noodles that
you see that mark the pathways. That's about it. Pretty
much everything else she made.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
She is an amazing artist. You are no slouch yourself.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I am surrounded by talented people. It makes me sad
that I have none.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
You are a pretty good author yourself, So don't.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Understand that to do that, and to actually be pretty good,
I would have to have time to sit and actually write. Right.
This is sixty hour work week is detrimental to my
both my mental health and my capacity for writing. Yeah.
I still think new stories all the time.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
So I guess cool, we'll write them down. Maybe one
of these days when things slow down, you'll have a
chance to.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Look back at your that's my retirement project, yes for sure.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
All right, keep going and we'll show them some more
of this. So this right here is man, I don't
know why that's covering up the pictures there. That stinks. Actually,
let me do this, Mark, let me now that I'm
thinking about it, I think we had this problem the
other night too.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Just gonna share your screen.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, let me present a full screen over here, So
if you'll drop that for me. Thank you. We'll switch
it over here to a share screen. See how fast
I can do this? There we go.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
We'll give you control over it.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
All, right, there we go. Okay, so we will zip
through a few of these that we've already seen here
real quick. There we go. That looks better. Okay. So
before everything gets going, Jess has has created this little
countdown that she puts out in the yard. And it

(26:52):
actually started out with some kids that head stop by
her house after school one day and knocked on the
door and was like, hey, are you gonna are you
going to be doing the nightmare thing again? Because we're
really hoping that you do it. You know, it's super
cool and you know how cool is that for the
kids to actually be asking for something. So yeah, they

(27:12):
set this up.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
A little bitty town. And but Halloween is probably one
of the bigger holidays and everybody still goes all in
for the traditional Halloween trick or treaty, and.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
We do as we have looked back in some yearbooks
and we've got it back into the twenties is when
we think that the original there was a parade that
the grade school does to this day. So even still
now the kids will take their costumes to school and
about one point thirty they all get into costume and
then they walk them downtown and everybody's parents and grandparents

(27:51):
and aunts and uncles, they all come downtown just to
watch their kids walk through the parade and their costumes.
And then they go back to school and they have
their little party. You know, it's a lot, it's so
much fun. They go home long enough to eat dinner
and then hit the streets because it's time to go
trick or treating. And Katie still does the door to

(28:11):
door thing. And now we've got some big things, like
there's the Cotton Candy House, and it's been going on
since I don't know if it was before I was
born or I remember doing it when I was very small,
so at least fifty years that it's been going on.

(28:32):
And they've just passed the tradition down through the Buster
family and some of the kids are handling it now.
But they make full things of cotton candy to give
out to the kids, so you get to stand there
on their porch and watch them, you know, crill it
up and hand it off. It's super cool. Yeah, that's
nightmare and over at the library. That's where I am,

(28:53):
and we give out we give out candy, we give
out popcorn, and every kid gets a free book. It's
pretty fun.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, that's pretty dope.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yeah. And then you know a lot of the churches
and different things. They've moved downtown and do trunk retreat
right there downtown. And then there's the fire department. They
give out like full sized candy bars. You know.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Oh yeah, I stay away from it because I'm already
a fat kid.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Well, I mean I have at least one kid that
doesn't like chocolate. So guess where it went? Oh man,
I know it's right nuts.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
So this right here is how Jess starts out with Nightmare.
She will sit down and she will dry out a
little schematic to figure out how it's all going to happen.
Up there in the corner where you see the pencil,
that's where their house is, and all the rest of
that is their front yard, and how they're gonna weave
everything in and out and then over towards the end
of the pencil where you see the lead, Like right here,

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they give out funnel cakes. We didn't mention that when
you get through the maze, you end up at the
funnel cakes and they don't make full sized ones. They
make them they're about cookie sized and they fit right
down into one of the little bags, so it's not
super messy to carry off. And there's candy along the
way too. But they also have they do they have

(30:14):
buckets put out everywhere and so you know, the kids
while they're standing there, if they have stuff that they
don't really care for, there's donation buckets and just goes
through about every ten minutes and has to empty these things.
And at the end of the night they gather all
that up and it goes to the Blue Star Mothers, so,
you know, all the candy that's not chocolate they send,

(30:36):
you know, to troops that are overseas, and then the
chocolate gets distributed here in the States to like Va
and things like that where it's not gonna go bad
going somewhere, you know, right.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
So it's an amazing program, actually it is.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
It's super cool. And then she has been featured Her
and Mike have been featured in Amused magazine a couple
of years ago and then off to the side. I
can't remember what year that was, they were in the Chronicle,
but you'll see there's Mike, Jess and then their daughter Raven,
and Raven when she's home, she helps out a lot.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
It looks like it was a few years ago.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Ravens still has long are yes and Ravens she's graduated
high school now, so that's been probably four years ago,
maybe three four years ago somewhere in there.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, something like that. Yeah, she is a year behind. Noah,
Yeah she is.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
And she Okay, when we get into the artwork that
just does she does all this stuff by hand. So
she is on some forums and things for Halloween haunts
and so there's a lot of creativity on there. And
this was one of them that's really cool where they
use the PVC pipe, cut it down and actually drip

(31:53):
the stuff down it to make it look like the
drippy candles. But this next picture, this is what it
looks like good Night of You can see all the
candles down there. It's so cool. It just looks fabulous.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, they are pretty pretty amazing.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
And they do have the vintage pumpkins that they use
they make that. I love that big pumpkin wall they
have over there, and it looks so cool just lit up.
But they try to do different things different years. So
this one up in the middle. I love that with
Jack peeking over the pumpkin patch there. Yeah, that was
such such a creative thing to do. Very very cool.

(32:35):
And again this is her artwork. She lays out these,
she cuts out these pieces like this is the Corpse Bride,
and she kind of went through the steps of how
she painted her and then overhears what she looks like
the night of Halloween. And I don't know, I don't
know if we said or not this it's just one night.
They put all these things up and it runs one

(32:57):
night and then the next morning it's it's over. So
it is, yeah, very cool.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
So that is amazing that they get eight hundred people
in just one night.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
It's incredible, isn't it. Here's some of the just kind
of a grouping of some of the this is all
I mean, she does all this by hand. There's some beetlejuice,
there's some Nightmare, and there's Corpse Bride.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
So fun and this is one of the coolest things
I think.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
So.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
And if you get to her Facebook page, it's the
Nightmare on Bradley on Facebook, and you'll see where she
posted this weekend that they got the spider web up
and Jess, we'll have to explain more about this, but
I know this comes from a butcher, but I don't
remember where. We'll have to have her explain a little

(33:49):
bit more. But yeah, you just pull this stuff out
and cut the strips out, or you don't cut the
strips out, you cut the holes into it. And the
cool part is she hooks it. They hook it to
the tree and the ground and they can use this
stuff year after year. When they're done with it, they
can take it down and roll it up. But it

(34:10):
makes this really cool little labyrinth that everybody can walk
through on the way out.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, it's absolutely creepy. It's absolutely creepy. It is.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
It's so cool. I love it. And there's a good
shot of what it looks like at night. Yeah, it
looks so good.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Right, I hate spiders.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Oh, right, there she is. I can't remember her name.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
They have it.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
She has a name.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I don't know. I just call her creepy.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Just call her creepy. I can't remember what it is.
It's not Elvirah. We'll have to ask, yes. And here's
some more of her hand drawn things or hand painted things,
just all the little creatures that are kind of side
creatures out of different shows. It's pretty cool. Like, I

(35:00):
know this worm, he's the worm that lives in the
Corpse Bride.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Kind of fun. But and here's what it looks like.
You can see him all out here. There's Frank and Weeny.
She made this beetlejuice sign here and this is uh
the character's beetlejuice there. Yes, from the from the cartoon
in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
I just love him.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
It's amazing. She does amazing work.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
She always has, she has she's so good at it.
And this is just a little bit of some of
the shots going around there. And there's Zero, Yeah, love Zero,
He's awesome. There's Jack and Sally in the graveyard the cemetery.

(35:57):
But y'all, this is just amazing. When you get there,
it's just all lit up and there's so many cool
paths and just something to look at everywhere. And they
do have three pumpkins that are solid. They're not they're
not cut in faces or anything that they have the
projections on and they'll sense sing the different songs and stuff.
It's so cool, super cute, and that is a TV

(36:22):
screen or a movie screen and they play different Timburton
movies throughout the night, so while you're waiting in line,
you can watch a movie too. Yeah, there's some more
of them, lots of blow ups, lots of fun stuff.
She even has see the stuff coming out of the

(36:44):
walls of the house.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's fun. It's so cool, it is.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
I'm excited. I'm always sad because I have to work
at the library to do Halloween over there, but I
try to. I if everything's still going on, all hook
it over to Jess's house, just to catch the tail
end of the festivities over there.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, it's it's crazy, it is. It's crazy good, crazy
good for sure.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
But yeah, it's so much fun.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
The k the kids absolutely love it.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
They do, and I wanted to make sure we got
this shot in here of daytime. It's cool looking in
the daytime too.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, it really is, really really is. And the creators
start when it's still light, so they do.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, the younger ones will come through, for sure. There's
some fun and everybody likes the photo.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Ops.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
There's some good ones and here is some fun people.
There's miss Jess. That's our friend Dana. She's from Bartlesville.
She always brings her twins up to go to this.
And then this over here is Holly and Justin Denton,
and then there's Jess and there's Mike in the background.
That is the uh funnel cake tint that's where he

(38:04):
mans the funnel cakes. And his cousin, Julie Russell, she
comes over. She used to do funnel cakes, I want
to say, they used to do them with a carnival.
So she is a funnel cake making fool. She can
she can just rip those things out. She's a huge
asset to the whole situation. This was a couple of
years ago. Because there's Mike, there's Jess, there's me. Oh

(38:26):
my gosh, what was her name from Harry Potter. I
blinked on it the other night too, Bellatrix las Strange.
That's who I was at here when we did Harry
Potter at the library. There's Miss Dana again. It was
a fun night and it was they set up this
photo op for families to come in and take pictures too,

(38:46):
and I think that's just totally cool.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
There's Raven. This is Justin Mike's daughter, Raven. She always
comes to help when she's here.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
That's a more recent picture that is.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, she's a little older in that picture than she was,
little taller, still smiling though.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yep she does.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
One of the kids.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, Mike is the biggest kid.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Mike is the biggest kid. He loves this just as
much as Jess.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
I'm not allowed to play with Mike because we get
in dun.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
That's awesome. We wanted to show this. This is the
next day. This is what the house looks like on
November first, it's all gone.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yep, they get it all packed away and yep, it's just.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
A one night thing that she is planning for the
next day for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
The next Halloween, there we go. And the address is
for six North Bradley, So if you're in the area,
they usually run it from us. Is it five to eight?
I believe something trick or treat starts to Usually the
kids start coming out around five, So if you're in

(40:09):
town or in the area, I highly highly encourage you
to stop by.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I know.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
The biggest treason that uh just wanted to start doing
something like this is her and my kid bought a
house on the east side of the highway and that's
the kind that's the side of town that when it
came to trick or treating kind of got the short
end of the stick because the majority of stuff that
happened downtown's on the west side of the highway. So
you know, when you were a kid, you didn't always

(40:36):
get the opportunity to go to the west side, so
it was kind of slim pickens here and there. But
it's really cool because not only is Mike and since
my kid just started doing this, they've got a neighbor. Yes,
he's like friendly competition. He's like, I'm gonna do I'll
do you this year. So she's like, bring it on,

(40:56):
you know, which is it's a win win for.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Sure, especially for the kids.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Yeah, and you know the other people in the neighborhood,
they're really stepping up to the challenge of all the
kids that are in the area. And Katie, I mean
the different churches. You can take your kids to the
church and they will have a hayrack ride basically and
put the kids in the wagon and just take them around.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
And that's that's neat, I mean, And that way your
kids can hang out with their friends, they can visit
all of these houses in their their supervised. They have
adult supervision.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Yes, that's the best part. You don't have to worry
about it, right, So fun right back do what? Oh,
I'm holding the fort down, Okay, So yeah, I would
encourage you anybody. I've lived in Katie the majority of
my life been gone for here and there a few years,

(41:56):
but yeah, it was a great place to raise kids.
When it comes to the holidays, especially Halloween.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Halloween is the best.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
I mean, it's the bomb.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I I remember the big Halloweens back when I was
a little kid, and they just kind of dried up.
You know, by the time time in the eighties nineties
rolled around, nobody was hardly doing it anymore. It's starting
to make a resurgence.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yes, and that's hopefully it does everywhere because it's such
a fun time for everybody.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah. I remember we would go to arc City and
I would get one of the large grocery bags full
of candy. By the end of the night. Yeah, take
my little bucket or whatever I had, and I dump
it two or three times. I bet I got ten
pounds of candy every night.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Oh my goodness, that's crazy, so funny.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
And you've seen me on sugar so I'm going to
tell you right now, it's it's a wonder I grew
to adulthood. That's funny. I should have been strangled.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Very Oh my gosh, no kidding, it's yeah, it happens,
and it's fun. I love the fact that Katie is
adamant about keeping the festivities on Halloween night. You know,
no matter like this year it's falling on a Thursday night,

(43:31):
we're doing it on Thursday night. You know, if they're
school the next day, there is This year, there is not,
which is really cool. I'm sure all the parents are.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
I think that was done on purpose.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
I hope it was done on purpose because I know
it helps the parents out, for sure it does. And
it's it's great so.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
You don't have to deal with sugar high.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Yeah, no kidding, that's probably it more than anything. I
can't blame there. Sure cannot blame them one bit again, right, Okay,
knock that down. What else you got, Mark? You got anything?
I know we were going to talk about Halloween in general.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
We're going to talk about Halloween in general. I mean,
this brings it up really well. I mean, that was
my one of my favorite holidays as a kid, you know,
you don't. It's really hard to do that. And these
days you're never going to see the homemade popcorn balls again.

(44:36):
Now they make the prepackaged ones, so you kind of
get to do it. There was nothing like a fresh
homemade popcorn ball.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
I remember those, all.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
The caramel and the salt and the yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
M do you remember the candies that I remember? Remember
the little orange and black, little twisted up candies.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, these are always.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
I don't see those anymore. I'm sure you're still around,
but I don't.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Candy corn, yeah, that's a big yeah. And some of
those things you only see a Halloween these days. Yeah,
chicko sticks, you don't hardly see those except that Halloween.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
There's probably any reason.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
You still find them.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Are you a chicko stick fan?

Speaker 3 (45:31):
I've got a soft spot in my heart for chicko sticks.
I'm not a huge fan of them, but the nostalgia, Oh.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
You might be able to tell how I feel about him.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I don't know. There was this old man, and I
say old, he's probably my age at my age now,
and I'm so old I know, right, so the guy
to be one hundred now. Anyway, he's the old man
wore over rawls everywhere, and every time he'd come out

(46:02):
by the farm talk to my dad, he'd have a
whole pocket pull of candy for the kids. They were
usually chicko sticks.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's cool. That memory attaches to that.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
He was the nicest old guy that you'd ever met,
and it just it brings back memories. It really does.
So when I when I see the little ones, I think.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Oh, awesome, that's sweet. I know, wow, I just lost
my train of thought where I was going to go
with that.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Yeah, y'all, it's been a day, right, I get it.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
I did lose it. I don't even know what I
was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Time on the road.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
At least I didn't have to drive, Thank goodness, Debbie
drove us. That was that was good. I just can't.
I just talked so we'd stay away and I can. Oh, no,
I can talk.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
So, I mean, you're pro.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah? Paid for it? Huh? Do you actually get paid
for it yet?

Speaker 4 (47:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (47:13):
No? No, we made thirty or forty dollars last year,
did you?

Speaker 4 (47:20):
Oh you mean that way? I think we're up to
like thirteen or fifteen dollars.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
I made enough to buy business cards Oh nice, I
got thousand of them, so sweet. You know what was cool?

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Going back to the Arkansas Expo, Jess, I had her
bring me over some extra Bordertown Strange cards. I'm really
glad I did. She brought me a box and I
came home with maybe a quarter of a box of
cards left. Oh wow, Yeah, they were taking them. We
ran completely out of the cards that we had, so yeah,

(47:56):
we were at the end. We were like having people
take pictures of the back of the last card we
have left with our info on it so they could
get it.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
That's why I got mine has a QR code on
it so they can scan it.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
And yes, yeah, there's a QR code on ours too,
thank goodness.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
And see I've also got the digital business card so
I can just tap and go in your phone.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Those are so cool. Yeah, those are really neat looking.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
A lot of people go with there's several different brands.
I went with Vista Prints because it's thirty bucks apiece
and you don't have to pay a fee to have
your account. You just buy the card the one time
and oh wow, you're done. You don't have to pay anything.
And so the nice thing about the digital card and

(48:47):
that's where my QR code is linked to. If any
of my information changes, I update the the site that
Vista Print provided and everybody gets the updates.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Oh sweet, really nice man, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
I like that. So if I want to change my
website name, if I want to add more places to go,
and I can just add it to their Like I'm
going to be adding the tumblr. So I want to
did the thing. And we've now got a tumblr, so sweet,
episodes are going to start popping up on there. I'm

(49:27):
going to have to go through this weekend and add
that to all the back episodes.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
So nice, that's pretty exciting. I like that.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
It'll be fun.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Yeah, it'd be pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
I don't know if it's going to do anything, but
I mean it gives you another option to find her
find her content.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
It does. Yeah, Hey, anyway you can get it out there,
that's great.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
I was gonna say, uh, we try to keep it entertaining.
We want people to have a good time, especially with
our other podcast. I try not to preach on anything.
Uh So, if you are a fan of what If Tomorrow,

(50:15):
you you know that we just try to start a
conversation and and and get you to do your own research,
because we don't want to do your thinking for you. Now.
The fringe, the fringe is just it's near and dear
to my heart. I love it right, So that's that's

(50:35):
the labor of love right there. And the occasional times
where I'm on strange.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
So yes, we always love having you on the strange.
I'm not sure what our next episode is going to be.
We need to work on that now that I'm back.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
You know, you can always yay.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
We'll be dragging you along with us.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Oh the weird or the better, That's.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
What I told everybody. So okay, here's the mud card
and it's Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Kansas. And you know
we do a lot of regional things. Now this is
the border town Strange card, and we deep dive of
the weird. So if you like deep dive in the weird,
there you go. And we always got that ooh yes
for sure.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Oh yes. And you know there's a lot of people
out there who's who's interested? Uh, a lot more than
I thought there.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Were same same. I will never forget. And I know
we've talked about this a million times about when you
and I got together and we were like, they're going
to run us out of town or it's going to
be fun one of the other.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
And it was a little bit of both, A little
bit both, yeah, a bit of both.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Much better now.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
There are still some negative nancies here in town. Who oh,
you're worshiping the demons, exercise the demon goodness.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
It could be worse. It could be a lot worse
for sud.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Be a lot worse. But most people are interested and
like us, you know, we try to find the scientific
side of it. Yes, because I truly believe that all
the stuff that's paranormal is actually just normal. We just
haven't quite figured it out yet.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
I agree. You know what, Mark, if you'll talk for
just a second, I just thought of something I do
want to share.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
I just want I can talk for many seconds, as
you well know, go for it. So well. While she's
doing that, let's talk about some of those thanks people
other thanks people do in other countries for Halloween. In Mexico,
they do trick or treating on the thirty first, but
that is just to slide them into the Dia de

(53:00):
la Muertos. If I pronounced that halfway right the Day
of the Dead, you did better an it's been going
on for three thousand years as pre Columbian meso America.
So that's when the gates of heaven opened, allowing the
spirit of the deceased loved ones to be reunited with
their still living family. That's kind of cool. England does

(53:25):
the trigger treating now because of the pop culture thing,
you know, why not? Uh, they're more likely to to
do Guy Fox Day. You know what Guy Fox Days.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Tell us?

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Well, Guy Fox attempted and failed to assassinate King James
the first with a very large bomb made of purples
of gunpowder. Oh my. Uh. It's celebrated by bonfires across

(54:02):
the country. So I don't know if they're they're wishing
he had succeeded, or you know, they're just good trials
for it. They celebrated every year. One of my ex
bosses is from Great Britain. I'm going to really have
to ask him about Guy Fox Day. Yeah, he's actually

(54:24):
taking care of my area while my other bosses on vacation,
So I'm going to ask him about Guy Fox Day.
If he's going to celebrate, that's cool. Let's see. In
Italy on November one, they do algn Nissante or All
Saints Day. It's a kind of a religious deal. Guatemala

(54:51):
also does honor the dead during the first couple of
days of November during the Giant Heights Festival Giant kites
k Yeah, it's called Letts Gigontaste Giant Kites. Halloween is

(55:17):
getting bigger in Japan. So, but trigger treating is not popular.
That's sad because that's the fun that.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
They're missing out, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
You know how the justice.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Is somebody you know in the comments.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Mark, Oh, yes, yes you do. Your wife says hi yay, Hey,
Chris so Japan. You know it's all about the costumes,
you know. They they basically invented cosplay, and so Halloween
is just an excuse. They can dress up however they want,

(55:57):
and nobody said a word. That's awesome. Ireland is where
Halloween started in the first place. Halloween originated from an
ancient festival of sam Hayne, which celebrated the beginning of
winter in Pagan Ireland for more than two thousand years ago.

(56:20):
So that's a that's cool. My ancestors are to blame.
That might be why it's my favorite. I don't know.
Maybe it's a genetic.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
It's just in our blood. Right, Yeah, all right, so
I got this.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
When you're done with that, let me know, let's go
right on hand.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Okay, well this is no biggie, but I just am
super excited about it. So if you know me, you
know I am an amputee. I left blowney amputee due
to a car accident thirty years ago. Actually October twenty
third was thirty years that's insane.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
So you've had your it's been gone long twenty five.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Yeah, it's been gone longer. I've been without a leg
longer than I've I've had one.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
So isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
That is crazy? As long as I've known.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
You, Oh yeah, for sure. I was twenty five when
I had my accident, so pretty nuts. But I'm also
a huge fan of Hanted Objects podcast, So if you
know me, you know that as well. And that's Greg
and Dana Newkirk's stuff and Jess and I and Jen
went to the Haunted Objects podcast live show in Wichita

(57:35):
a few weeks ago, and when we were there, I
think we all three ended up getting T shirts and
they're super cool. Well, I was in the process of
getting a new socket made for my leg and usually
I have nightmare. I almost said nightmare on Bradley a
nightmember before Christmas on my socket. And what they do

(57:56):
is you take a T shirt and then you give
it to your processus and the tech will laminate it
onto your socket. So it's really cool looking. So I
took my I didn't have a nightmare shirt, so I
took my Hunted Objects podcast shirt and let me share
this screen so you guys can see how freaking crazy

(58:18):
it came out. I absolutely love it. There it is.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
It turned out pretty cool, it did.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
It came out so good and everything on there. I
asked him to make sure that they got this right here,
the goblin, which is Tyler Strand's goblin that he made
for the original Hell your show. Made sure they got
that in there, and they got the new. Oh I'm
blanking on their names, lew and Liz, that's the the.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Mark.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
I'm struggling. What's the word?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
The uhuppets?

Speaker 4 (59:03):
And yeah, but they're not what are they called? Oh
my goodness, y'all, I am tired almost Yes, a ventriloquist doll, Yes,
that's what they are.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Woo.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
I'm telling you, I'm on maybe three percent brain power
here tonight. But everything that's that's on here, uh is
involved somehow with with one of their uh haunted objects
in their museum. And we did accidentally kind of give
have to give Jeff Goldbloom a lobotomy there, but it's
all right, hey, Enzo, hey Bud, all right inso you

(59:47):
got to see this, let me let me drop this,
but anyway, that's my leg. So yeah, if you see
me and you want to see it in person, don't
hesitate to ask. I don't mind showing it off at all.
They even got see you right here. They got the
hanted drama and reference on there, which is awesome. Yep,
I thought that was hilarious. Okay, let me what am
I doing?

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
You want me to take Dan? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
If you could, thank you? I got hung up. Did
you see that? Okay? So Zo, I was at I'm
talking to Enzo here. I was at Arkansas Paranormal Expo,
and look what I got one of w. Zigge Meyer's books,
Alien Colonization of Earth's Waterways.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Play your cards right next time you come over. I
hope you swipe it out. This track ooh that oh no,
that's scarier.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Than Halloween, it is, Zo said, sorry, he was late.
He was at an HOA meeting. Yuck, yuck, yuck. But
isn't that cool? Yeah, he said, very nice, Pam. Yeah,
I'm super excited about it. And I got the colorized.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Version of it too, so sweet.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Can't wait. Will not be tonight that I read it, though,
because I'm going to crash and burn.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I'm surprised you haven't just fallen face.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
First and right. I am shocked. I have been able
to string well. I haven't been able to do it well,
but I'm still stringing words together somewhat well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
I mean you've devolved where I am normally, so you're
fitting right in.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Yay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I'll start talking and I'll just go flank and people
will try to fill it in for me. No, no,
give me a second. I have a word and I
have lost it. Oh man, probably where I left, and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
I got grand babies in the morning, so I'll be
up bright.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
We won't keep you on here much longer so you
can get some rest.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
But yay, this has been fun.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
We missed Jess though, Yeah, we missed Jess, and but
it'll be She'll be on next time, yes for sure, and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Bordertown will be on Bordertown's strange. Not this Wednesday, but
next Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
We'll be on from Wednesday. Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
I'm not one hundred percent sure what the topic is yet,
but as soon as we know, we will get it
out there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
I'm sure it will be thrilling and engaging.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Just we try, We try for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
All right. Uh, that is really all I had to
go go with tonight. Hopefully in a couple of weeks
we will get Brian Tarrell from Redrick Cryptis back on. Yes,
we had him scheduled for two weeks ago. I spent
that whole day in the er passing a kidney stone.

(01:02:53):
I probably could have done the show, but I was
incredibly stoned from more they gave me before they sent
me home.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
You have been extremely, extremely amusing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
They shot that right in my ivy. I probably would
have been very entertaining.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
See Enzo saying in the comments, it's windy here. I
had to hang on while walking around. It is here too.
It's nuts And I guess did you have you guys
seen the weather Wednesday? We're under the tornado mornings tornado.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Yeah, Wednesday's eighty chances of rear storms.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Yeah, it's a big yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
It'll be a big deal. It's good. It was five
millimeters that it was stuck halfway between my kidney and
my bladder. They thought they thought it was because of
where it was kenness soon.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Well sure, heart, that don't wash out on anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Well hope, hopefully there's no more where that came from.
But I'm not going to hold my breath right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Yeah, and so I said, that's a blue ribbon winner.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Boy is it? Yeah? Yeah, it was quite quite entertaining.
So thank you everybody for stopping by and listening to us.
I hope you all have a happy Halloween. Yes, those
of you who are expecting tricker treaters, I hope you

(01:04:32):
give away all your candy. Hey, those of you have
little kids and are taking them trick or treating, I
wish you was safe and fun evening.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
And don't forget to collect your candy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Tax if you're tax yes, right now is the time
to teach them about government and responsibility. I believe the
going rate for taxes for uh, for most families, it's
about so you get a quarter of their candy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Dang, you're steeped.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Because you're the government. Well, if you're in a higher
tax back, they get a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
You know, well, it makes it makes sense if you
think about it, because there's the countries where they have
you know, universal health care or whatever it's called a camera,
what's called where everything's taken care of. You do pay
higher taxes, but you get taken care of. That's kind
of like a kid, you know. You you pay the
candy tax because they take care of everything. So there

(01:05:35):
you go.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
There you go transport and you've got to cover of transportation, food,
U costuming. Yeah, and if it's home made labor, yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Too funny.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Is that why election day is a few days after Halloween? Oh?
If you want to see the Dems.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Oh yeah, it's gonna get scary around here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Sorry, sorry sorry. Alrighty, So before I put my foot
in my mouth, I'm gonna wish everybody good night, Happy Halloween. Yes,
and we will see you on the Fringe in two
weeks and a week from Wednesday on Border Town Strange. Yes, everybody,

(01:06:30):
all right, good night, everybody, good night. Let's see if
I'm smart enough to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
I'm smiling