What if Cryptids are Failed Gavernment experiments?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Have you ever wondered what was out there in the
night sky, stared up at the stars in the hopes
of seeing something out of the ordinary. Have you heard
unexplainable noises coming from a vacant room or watched the
shadow across the wall in front of you. Have you
asked yourself if there is life after this one, or
if you had life before? What about strange creatures that

(00:28):
are mythical and elusive? Have you experienced dejeuvu or felt
a prompting to leave because you felt you were in danger.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
If you have, you were on the fringe.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Welcome to another episode of On the Fringe.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
I'm Mark, I'm Pam, and I'm Jess.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yay, we're all here, and tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
We're circling the drain tonight pardon my coughing, tonight I'm
still trying to get over the crowd. Hi, And so
tonight we are discussing what if cryptids are failed government experiments?
And other miscellaneous conspiracy theories about cryptids. There's quite a few.

(01:38):
And this is going to be on the fringe at
its finest. We're most likely going to be in the
weeds on all sorts of stuff. So buckle up Buttercup
because it's going to be a wild ride. So I'm

(01:59):
sure everybody has heard all the conspiracy theories. Oh, the
Parks Department, in the FBI, the you know all about
these you hear cryptids and big foots. They're just trying
to hide it from the public, you know. You know
what I'm talking about. Everybody's heard those dog Man is
an escaped government experiment for super soldiers. And there's there's

(02:27):
lots of things out there. I mean, we know that
some of these cryptids are probably not what we think
they are. And then you get into things like the
Tasmanian tiger went extinct in nineteen thirty two for nineteen
thirty six, I believe, and now people are starting to

(02:51):
see them out in the wild. Nobody's got any pictures.
Oh you're just seeing things. Well, it actually used to exist,
and did we really kill them all? It's only been
in a hundred years, it's true, So you know, there's
all that stuff out there. Yeah, it's fun to talk about.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
It is fun to talk about.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
So let the madness begin. Well, I mean, I'm on here,
so it's going to be mad. Yeah, you don't have
to be crazy to be on our podcast. But you know,
we provide on the job training.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
It definitely helps.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
What are we gonna what are we going to start
out with tonight?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
And so you're right, circles are more they are, and.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
We're getting kind of gusty here too.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, I mean there's I'm windy every David, I'm not
talking about that. The first thing I've got up is
the Chinese human swine experiments that they have admitted to,
and what part of that have they not admitted to?

(04:14):
So if those are you who don't know, the Chinese
for several years now have been combining human and swine
DNA to grow human organs in pigs for transplant. Well,
there's been all kinds of weird things being seen near

(04:37):
these research facilities. Don't know if they're failed experiments or
people are just you know, that's on their mind and
they're seeing these things. There was supposedly not too long ago,
somebody killed a hog not too far from one of
these research centers and found a human like creature with

(05:04):
a pig snout that was apparently possibly still born or
what have you. So to quote Archer, you want orcs
because that's how you get orcs. Oh, he said ants.
But that's all right.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Well, I don't gome metaling in that stuff, and you
won't get a works regardless.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Right, I mean, it's just weird. It's just weird. I mean,
kudos for trying to provide organ there's an organ shortage.
I get it, and I have to double check, but
I believe that. I believe if you, uh, look, they

(05:53):
have actually successfully transpilanted some of these these organs. I
know they grew a ear on the back of one
of them or something like that.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
So I haven't seen pigs, but I think I've seen
mice with the ears grown on.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Maybe it was mice. So they're doing this and you
know it just it's about a half dozen people in
the United States and China has received organs from genome
edited pigs, kidney's hearts, liver, and a thymus. So, I mean,

(06:32):
it's happening. But are they creating cryptids accidentally when these
animals escape or turned loose or what have you, or
are there some military components to their research. I don't know,
but they've already admitted to the organs because you know
it's out there.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yeah, So do you think like there's pigs run around
with like human ears growing on their backs or whatever.
They just got loose, and.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I mean, look, look how well they did with bacteria.
What are they going to do with something with four legs?
Oh crap, you got out the door.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
And just recently you look at the monkeys that got
loose in uh North Carolina, right, And that's and they
haven't caught them.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
No, they're not going to.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
No they're not They're not coming back. Those monkeys are like, overmind.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
We're going to be on the fringe.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Oh no, there's enough monkeys on the fringe already.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
There's enough monkey business on the fringe for sure. I'm
responsible for most of it. So there's that that's happening.
Uh So, China generally behind the curve on research and stuff,

(08:02):
So what have we done here? And that that's what
drives a lot of these conspiracy theories. You know, they've
got always seems like there's weird stuff spotted around military
bases or abandoned military bases. So nope, Hi, Chris, wife,

(08:24):
he's on here.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Hi Chris, what.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Do you guys think about this? I mean, we've got
all kinds of some ones I don't recognize on here.
Ak who that is. Yeah, Dark Woods presents that, Hello, are.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Our troublemakers archers here.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Not that I don't doubt government is doing some safdie
shady stuff, but there have been reports of cryptids since Samaria.
There are courts of cryptids all over the world for ever.
And yes, that's true. I'm not denying that.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, we're not. We're not saying that all cryptids are
government you know, government started. We're implying that some of
these maybe it's just a conspiracy theory that we're just
going to go over a little bit today.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Some of the conspiracy theories are out and out, cray cray,
some of them. I mean, I can see where they
get them.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Yeah, some of them have a really good and like
nugget of truth underneath of them, Like I was talking
to them backstage, and I'll just do this one now.
So back in two thousand and five, a story am
I am I cycling again?

Speaker 3 (09:52):
No? No, I have a little bit of echo on
my end, but not much, Okay.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
In late two thousand and five, a Scottish newspaper released
some papers that had been newly declassified from the government,
and in it they were talking about a Russian ape
man army that was trying that Stalin tried to start.

(10:19):
He and the Soviets planned to create an army of
unstoppable monsters that were half monkey half human hybrids, under
the direction of Russian physiologist Isla Ivanaw who had a
love of cutting edge science and zoology. And in fact,
it is true that Ivana did, in fact attempt to

(10:41):
fuse chimpanzees with humans in the most horrible ways. So
what he did was he inseminated female chimps with male
semen with human male semen, and of course that didn't work,
and he tried the opposite. They actually stole tribeswomen from

(11:01):
New Guinea and inceminated them with male Champanzee sperm, and
of course nothing came of that. We're too far off,
I think for like.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Ninety eight percent.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yea the same, but you can't you can't cross that.
And of course that didn't work. And he waited a
little while until the nineteen twenties and he tried it again,
only he did it with ape this time, and he
didn't change the premise either. He just inseminated seamen from
either side into the other, and it still didn't work.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Let's see what happens.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, supposedly it didn't work. Now, the crazy thing is
is in twenty ten, a group of workmen were building
a playground right there where his experiments were happening at
and they found his old underground lab, concrete lab. It
was completely full of giant ape skeletons. They literally just

(12:01):
left them down in there. Yeah, absolutely true. Yeah, so
he was really doing this.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Now.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
The interesting thing is is if you go back and
look in the years following that last group of research
that he did, you find handfuls of stories of people
running into these men who were almost men, but were
like really furry, but they stood up right. Almost sounds bigfootigh,
but not quite. They said. They were very much human,

(12:32):
male only completely covered in long brown red fur, had
a human face, not a monkey face, but their eyes
were completely devoid of any kind of intelligence. It was
like looking at an animal.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I worked with that guy.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
I grabbed two of the stories. In nineteen forty one,
a man beast was captured in that area, naked, barefoot,
covered in a shaggy coat of brown red hair, six
feet tall, with powerful arms and thick fingers. Eyes showed
no intelligence. Nineteen forty four, a group of Russian men

(13:10):
charged with watching for invading German military spotted a supposed
half man half epe man. It resembled a human man
that had long red hair all over his body, but
was clothed with an old kaftain. Where the beast was
seen was the same area Ivanov had had his secret
labs years before. So and there's more. I didn't write

(13:31):
them all down.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
So there may or may not be anything to that may.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Or may not be. Or maybe it's a bigfoot in
the area and they're assuming right that it's from.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
That, and that could be because we do know there's
been big foot sightings back centuries and centuries. So yes,
the modern military or governments of any nation didn't have
anything to do with that, although it wouldn't surprise me
they hadn't caught any and were trying to do some

(14:04):
of this doctor's work, you know what I'm saying. While
we're in Russia, there have been sightings of large hairless
s canines that are highly intelligent.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
All over the country. The premise behind that is the
government was experimenting with human DNA splicing into dogs and
those were the result. And when they shut the program down,

(14:42):
the scientists were supposed to put them down, and instead
they had grown attached to them and turn them loose.
And that's where all these sightings are coming from. So
there's some stuff like that out on the web. There's
a lot of interesting stuff on there. YouTube has a

(15:03):
bunch of really weird stuff. Yeah, so it's entertaining if
nothing else, but there have been a lot of sightings
of these large hairless dogs that have human like eyes
and seem more intelligent than they should be.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Well, yeah, was it on here?

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I think it was unstrange when we did it was
on strange and we were talking about some stories and
we had those about the dog men that were spotted
basically doing the congo line through somebody's backyard. Yeah, that
kind of makes me think of that because they were
really big, you know, and they had the intelligent look
to them. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
That was the don't look out the window special, That's
what it was.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Well, I mean, congo line. What were they really doing?

Speaker 5 (15:59):
They were excited about life?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I'm sure something was being excited.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
So another one I have is the very well known
flat Woods Monster. I think everybody knows the flat Woods
Monster without realizing that they know the flat Woods Monster.
It's that very strange cryptid that has the huge like
spade shape for a head and kind of a cone

(16:32):
conical shaped body to it. It was only seen like
once by a handful of people back in the early
fifties in West Virginia. Correct, so Flatwood is West Virginia,
West Virginia, there is, but I think that it. I'm

(16:55):
eighty percent sure it was military, and there's a very
good reason for that. So just everyone at home, so
I'll just refresh your memory if you don't know about
the flat Woods Monster. It was seen by a handful
of people. There was a supposed UFO crash that was
seen in the distance. Some of these people followed it
to the top of this hill, and at the top

(17:17):
of the hill they witnessed the strangest thing. It was
this twelve foot tall creature with a spade like I
think of like the ace of spades, like the card
that that type of a playing card spade shaped head
to it, and this thing glowed and spit little sparks,

(17:39):
and it sparkled and emitted this weird gas that said
that made their eyes burn and their nose burn. It
was self illuminated. This this craziest thing, and it was
there and then it was gone. So the interesting thing
is is, if you all remember the Rand Report that

(18:02):
they released in twenty ten, they talked a lot about
the superstitions and things and how they could be used
against the people who held the superstitions and the beliefs
in different supernatural things, and it was actually used in

(18:23):
various times. So the main one that I'm going to
point out here was during World War Two, a man
named Jasper Masculine was hired by the British Army to
create a giant scarecrow. It was twelve foot high and
it emitted frightful flashes and bangs and moved on its
own volition. The British used the giant on several occasions

(18:46):
while fighting the Nazis and the mountains of Italy. Terror
and chaos broke out wherever the creature made its appearance,
amongst the local villagers who vowed to never help the
Nazis again in fear of the giant devil. So if
you go when you look at the listing of what
Mescalin's monster looked like, it looks a whole lot like

(19:10):
the Flatwood's monster. The only difference is is that his
didn't have the spade shape. Now, if you go back
and look at the time that the Flatwoods Monster happened,
our big enemy at the time was the North Vietnamese,
and if you look into the North Vietnamese background, you'll
find that they think the spade shape is a horrible,

(19:34):
bad omen and they are scared of the shape of it.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
So so some sort of mockup for ssyops, I believe, and
a lot.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Of people believe that that it was a scare tactic
and they were trying it out in that little small
community outside of flat Woods to give it a try
to see what it it accomplish. Now, whether they actually
ever used it later on for anything purposeful, I have
no idea, but the just the description of the Flatwoods

(20:12):
Monster leans heavily towards this was a metal machine that
I think shot sparks and glowed funky to scare people,
very much like the other guy's machine that he built
to scare the Nazis and the Italian villager.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
So hey, if it worked once, it'll work again, right, Yes,
I mean, why reinvent the wheel? I can, and I
mean the governments, several governments are well known for using

(20:55):
fake props and stuff to throw the enemies off. He
had whole fields full of fake and inflatable tanks. The
Germans had airfields that had nothing but wooden airplanes on them,
so when the enemy flew over, they thought they were
seeing active airfield and stuff like that. So, I mean,

(21:21):
misdirection is a valid military tactic, and I can see
where some of that could have caused some of the
conspiracy theories.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
So yeah, oh, I looked at I found it the
Rand Report April fourteenth, nineteen fifty. The report was called
the Exploitation of Superstitions for Purposes of Psychological Warfare. This
document detailed the varied ways that beliefs and superstitions could

(21:51):
be leveraged on the battlefield, and it had listings of
all that kind of stuff that they were actually working
on in it. So Belie leave the Flatwoods Monster was
probably most definitely a part of that workup that they
were doing.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
All that that sounds that sounds actually very reasonable. So
you want to talk about what do you want to
talk about next? We've got several things going on. We
got the Montalk Monster, go for it. So several years
ago a two thousand and eight. I believe this naked,

(22:30):
weird creature with a beak like nose and scary looking
teeth washed up on a beach in Montalk, New York.
Experts concluded that it was a water degraded raccoon. But
what got everybody up in Roar is just off of

(22:50):
the coast of Montalk. It is an island that is
off limits to everybody. It is used to experiment with
animal diseases and there, I believe it is rumored that
they're doing some genetic experiments with animals. And it's just

(23:12):
off the coast. So, I mean, I can see where
somebody would find something weird washed up on the shore
and go, oh, it must be one of those experiments
from that there island out there. Yeah, so if anybody
let me see if I've got a picture, Yes, I
do have a picture. It is creepy. I'm going to

(23:35):
show you guys this. You guys see that.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yes, there it is there. It is hell is that.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well they say it's a raccoon.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yeah, they're saying it's a raccoon with a mange.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
It's it's weird looking. I don't care what it is.
It's weird looking. And his nightmare fuel. Huh. Let me
see if I can make that a little big.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
I've ever seen a naked raccoon before.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
I made it a little bigger, not much, so, yeah,
it's it was a funky credit. And like I said,
they area around there, there is there is that research
facility very close by. So, huh are they trying to

(24:37):
make raccoon naked raccoons like we've got the.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Naked cat naked bull rat?

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Have you seen these spinx cats?

Speaker 5 (24:50):
I don't think we need any. We don't need any.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, So I mean you get into the whole t
cabrah mom talk monster stuff. It's just all you gotta
do is go get one of those cats and you
have your very own cryptid.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
It's something.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Those are gross. I'm so sorry about all the coughing.
I I am suffering from a cold from four weeks
ago that just will not.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, and if I try to laugh, it's bad, It's
really bad.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Another interesting one that I hunted up that is basically
proven to be true is the Teggy Monster from Lake
Balla and Scotland. And I'm sorry, And if I said
any of that wrong, I apologize.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
I mean, we are here, but you're the English language
and every other language.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Oh and we have yet vehicles, so we're doing Let
the bloodbath begin?

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Oh lord? Okay. So back in nineteen fourteen, the British
Royal Navy concocted this experiment where they thought it would
be a good idea to try out strapping explosives to
seals and seeing if they could train those seals to
go out and explode submarine and ships. They thought it

(26:29):
was some kind of a fantastic idea and they use
the lake as a training ground to see how well
it would work. And unfortunately, the seals were too smart,
or fortunately I should say, because I can't imagine sending
seals to get blown up. Yeah they would. They wouldn't
even swim with the stuff strapped to their back. They

(26:51):
just out and out refused. They were like heth No.
The problem was is that there was a good number
of seas they brought in from different places, from zoos
and ones that have been caught, and they couldn't round
them back up. This lake is huge and it is
extraordinarily deep, except some people say that it's has no bottom.

(27:14):
This is how deep it supposedly is, and there was
no way to round them back up. So rather than
try to spend a whole bunch of money trying to
figure out how to get these seals back, they just
let them be loose. Mind you, they didn't have the
explosives on them, so they were fine there.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Yeah, in the to classified documents, you see where they
started spreading rumors in the area, purposely saying that there
was a you know, a very ancient lake monster and
if you saw ripples and things, that's what you were seeing.
And of course it caught on very quickly because people

(27:56):
love to grasp onto that, and what invariably ended up
happening was that when something was seen by someone, they
would say, oh, I saw the lake monster, and most
people didn't believe them. So it kind of worked itself
out where if people were seeing these seals that shouldn't
be there, it was the lake monster, and then they
wouldn't be found out about their little bad experiment gone awry.

(28:20):
So there's so that one is literally encrypted that was
made by the government, only it's not really encrypted.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
The seals they make me think of cats if you
try to put a harness on them to take them
outside to walk them.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Yeah, they just kind of lay over.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
They just lay there and see.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
That brings up a very good point. The government is
very fond of using tactics like that to make people
think that other people are absolutely nuts. Yes, so they
will run you through the wringer and put very quietly,

(29:05):
get the media to make fun of you until everybody
thinks you're a nutjob and you end up huddled in
your room.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
So yeah, another one that I found that is extraordinarily
similar to that. In fact, I wonder if they didn't
just like take a leaf out of their book and
do the same. There's another lake monster in Idaho in
uh Lake Penned I believe it's called, and it's called
the Paddler, and it's almost the exact same scenario. So

(29:41):
on that lake is a military base where they had
spent years trying out different types of submersible weaponage and
dome dopplers and things like that to detect submarine and

(30:01):
all sorts of hold on. I wrote down one of them.
It was something called weird unique experimental hardware and floating
platforms that they drug. It was just all sorts of
experiments that they were doing and in order to keep
the locals from you know, Spillin. They ended up making
up a lake monster called the Paddler because the stuff

(30:23):
that they were using. Of course, it was underneath the water,
but you would see these huge, you know, like twenty
thirty foot wakes that would come off the back of it,
because of course it turns up the top of the
lake water. So it was very easy to come up
with a lake monster. And in fact I found a
few of the stories of people who had claimed to
see it, and the only thing they can say is
it had a huge wake and they could see just

(30:45):
the top of it underneath the water, and it was
sheet metal gray, which be a submersible correct, exactly.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah gray?

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, who'd a thought?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:01):
I really think they probably just took a page right
out of the old British Real Navies book there and
was like, hey, we can do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
And they still do stuff like that today where they
want people they want to keep people from saying anything
because people don't want to seem stupid or crazy or
whatever anymore. Everybody's just letting they're weird out. So then

(31:30):
you get all kinds of wild stuff. I mean, we've
already got all kinds of real stuff going on. We
don't need the government telling us, Oh, our secret submarine
program is really a sea serpent.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah. All I know is if use you of those
at home, ever visit Lake Pendon, Idaho and you see
the lake monster, throw a rock in there, because I
bet it goes ding.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
And then the men in black will show up and you'll.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Get in trouble for throwing the rock at it.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
You're you're attacking government property.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Only worry if it throws the rock back, then you worry.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I'll throw something at you. But it eight rocks, it
might be really laughing.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
I have a weird one and it's not really a
government conspiracy because it's really happening, and it's scientists that
are doing it, and it's it's actually it's occurring right now.
There is a more than one company that's doing it too.
They are taking brain organoids, and what these are, it's

(32:45):
basically they've taken the organoids off of stem cells and
off of neural stem cells, and they put them in
a specialized environment that keeps them alive, and then they're
taking these there are many brains what they are, and
they are hooking them up to specialize electrodes and hooking

(33:05):
up up to little computers, like little robots, you know,
the little bitty robots that look like spiders and stuff. Right,
they can hook those to these little robots and they
will actually learn to make the robot move. And so
what what they're saying, what their big plan is is
to take these and run computers with them, like they

(33:28):
can replace silicone chips with these little organoids and get
more power out of them basically. But I think that
is skating a very thin line of being ethical, you know, right,
because that's freaky. I mean you're taking something that it's

(33:51):
a brand. I mean, it has it's part human obviously,
it's coming from human stem cells.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
And that's a been a state people of modern sci
fi for decades, of computers that run on human brain matter.
Because you know, when a lot of these stories were written,
computers were so primitive. There's no way they can be
smart enough to do the things we need them to do.
We'll just use we'll write in here that they're using

(34:18):
human brain matter. And yeah, I don't make everything work. Well,
I mean it does work, obviously.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
So the brain is the absolute biggest best computer ever,
you know, honestly. But what's wild is like a couple
of years ago, scientists hooked up these neurons to electrical
circuits and actually came up with a device that can
perform voice recugnetion. That's getting really yeah, And I don't know,

(34:58):
but there are excuses if we use these organoids instead
instead of the silicon based counterparts, that this will make
a significantly smaller carbon on the planet. I think that's
a really good excuse just to do some really shady ship.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Well they say that about electric cars, but I mean
most electricity is general generated by coal in the United States.
You've got huge mind to mine all the products. The
carbon footprint on your electric car is actually way larger

(35:38):
than just burning gasoline.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Mm hmm it is. And plus you know when when
generators there's so much more into them, they don't just
it isn't just for wind, you know, well it is
for wind, but in order to make it, what all
are you doing? They're worse for the environment. If oh, yeah,

(36:02):
this you know, went the old fashioned rout.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Literally tons of the bases for those literally have tons
of steel rebar and I think it's something like thirty
or forty feet of concrete sunk down into the ground. Right,
A stable base. And not to get off on too
wild of a tangent, but this is a conspiracy show.

(36:25):
Have you noticed that it was only after the giant
wind farms started coming up we started having a lot
of earthquakes in the Midwest. Think about how much pressure
that's putting on it. Huh.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
I thought that was cracking.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
That's what they want us to think. But I just
think the timing is suspicious. The first of those big
earthquakes were centered fairly close to one of those giant
wind farms. You know, they're pushing like the force of
a nuclear blast every day on those windmills. It's got

(37:02):
to move something. Yeah, So, I mean, I don't know,
We're just we're just throwing that out. This is a
conspiracy show. I mean both Honestly, it was probably a
little bit of both. Not to mention the fact that
it is an active fault line, so I mean, yeah,

(37:23):
it was probably due to go off anyway, probably didn't
need much help.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
So all right, a new Madrid and it's fixing to
blow anytime.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, yeah, he could go anytime. We've got the Michigan
dog Man.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
There's an old airport up there that they say was
a government research facility that had we're trying to make
dog men soldiers. So that's out there. There's if you
name a cryptid, there is a conspiracy that had something

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to do with it.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
There always is, and that well, there's ones that are
solely that. So I pulled up a handful that I
found that were just you know, localized cryptids, not big name,
you know, national type of cryptids that are everywhere. I
found the billiwack monster that's out of Santa Paula, California,
and it's a half goat, half man type creature. It

(38:36):
says it's tall, bipedal, long claws, gray hair, and ram
horns and it throws large rocks, swing sticks, and chases cars.
So it's a whole trifecta of on there. So supposedly
it was a big mistake that was made by the
OSS who had secret labs nearby under a long, non

(38:57):
non functioning dairy. Also, they did experiments trying to make
it like a superhuman at this place. Apparently it's one
of the ones that just got loose and now it
terrorizes uh, that little area there. But that is so
much like the stories you hear everywhere, like every place
has like as science experiment place that went a fowl,

(39:22):
or a insane asylum that went a fowl, or you know,
a hospital that got taken over by a mad scientist
and he, you know, fiddled with stuff he shouldn't have
and then the stuff got loose.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Sounds like that bad eighties movie Project Metal Beast, where
they were they caught a werewolf and infused it with
living metal and yeah it was Oh it was so bad.
It was good.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I've never even heard of it.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, I also have obscure movies, but that five hundred Alex.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Right, my gosh, I'm the queen of that. You know,
like sci fi horror movie. I used to love to
stay up and watch the USA up all night. Do
you guys remember that? Yes, yes, they play like the
like the Cannibal Women of the Avocado Jungle of Death

(40:23):
and Killer be Girls and all sorts of fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yes, it was nineteen ninety five, so it wasn't the
eighties for those of you who are interested, it was
not the a nineteen ninety five Project Metal Beast, so
enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Oh my goodness, that's fabulous nails. Yeah, I know, right,
Very Bostwick.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah, yeah, Kim Dalini.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yeah, wow, I'm sure how I missed that one.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
It was fairly obscure. Really wasn't all that bad, but
it really wasn't all that good either.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
My goodness.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Well, when I read about the man, that's the first
thing that popped in my head.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Another good one I found is called the wampus cat,
and it's out of Alabama. Yeah, cattyewampus. So well, they
call it that because it's a mix of two weird things.
So it's supposedly a World War two Uh. In World
War two, the US government tried to create a super

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animal by combining DNA from a mountain lion and a
gray wolf, and it worked and a breeding pair got loose,
and now they're running all over the Taligate Talladega National Forest.
So you had to watch out for the wampus cats there,

(41:59):
all right.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well, I mean, considering the fact that the CIA did
actually take a cat and wire it up as a
bionic listening machine, I wouldn't put it. Of course. They
let it out to go listen in on somebody and
it immediately got run over by a taxi.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Well, plus, like a cat's really gonna go set where
they want to set, they'd be way better off ted it.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
They trained it to be very, very needy and need
to be petted, so they just tuned it loose near
to so thinking that they would pick it up and
pet it and they could listen in.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
That makes me think of remember I think it was
a funeral where they're letting doves go and and they
throw them up in the air and immediately get slammed
by a semi.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Oh no, yeah, they're like, oh, so the US government
and other governments in the world have come up with
all sorts of hair brained crap that didn't work. It

(43:17):
just makes you wonder, And this is why these theories exist.
It just makes you wonder, what if something actually worked,
they're not going to tell.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Us about it. Oh no, that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
So it's it's fun to to, you know, bloviate about. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
Another one I found was called rebobs, which I think
is hilarious. Rebobs. They're out of California too. California people
are a little netty and these are winged monkey creatures.
They created flying monkeys basically, well there are from military

(44:07):
experiments from the local base. So don't go near where
did the name go near? In Napa, California, because there
were and oh my gosh, there's all that wine out
there in Napa. Do you think that the winged monkeys
drink all the wine? There's like flying drunked up monkeys.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I think there might be a little LSD involved in that.
I'm not sure so, And my first question is what
are they not sharing that? Yeah, and a good time
was had by all.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Yes, we had. Also, we were talking backstage about Mothman.
A lot of people think that the origins of Mothman
or military solely because it came from the TNT and
munitions area outside of Point Pleas at West Virginia. That
was its kind of home base, and there was a

(45:04):
little bit of conspiracy theory around that area about what
they were actually making and what was coming out of
that through the war and then up into like the
sixties and seventies and stuff when all of the Mothman
stuff that was occurring, accusing them of genetic manipulations and

(45:24):
animal splicing and and all that other stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Enzo makes a good point, that's very expensive wine and Napa,
but they do have tasting rooms which may cause you
to see flying monkeys.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Oh yeah, he has a point maybe. I mean it's
like a pink elephant type of situation.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
In that film with Gland. We lived that film with
Judy Garth.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
We are from the land of Oz, that's right.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
I also found talk about the friend No nightcrawlers were
also government issue, but they weren't actual animals, that they
were a kind of a robotic reconnaissance type of situation.
And I will say that all the places that they

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have been cited there are military bases right nearby, so.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
They do look rather mechanical.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
They do kind of and the you know, that would
be a good reason for their very simplistic shape. You know,
you only need to cover up your robotics so it's
not so in your face. And the only problem is
is that some of them are kind of see through,
so I don't know, well.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
To me, it looks like they're wearing like, not parachute pants,
but those billowie h robe pants, you know what I'm
talking about. Yeah, so those could be sheer and make
them look a little thecon.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Can hop on and said, I've heard about military mice
and cockroaches too.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, yeah, I mean cockroaches with the microphones on them
and stuff.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Yes, and so they are much cuter than the robotic dogs.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
I would love to have a little Fresno crawler of
my own. That would be fun.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yes, yes, I'd find everybody with a ring doorbell and
run it by their house every night.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
They probably only eat like human meat or something like
that would make it horrible to have to keep so
although I could feed them my enemies.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
There you go, just leave your door open at night
during the Christmas season and people will try to come
in and you can feed them.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah, that's why I want a tiger so I don't
I don't need to defend myself. All you need is
a laser pointer. Or somebody breaks into my house. You know,
somebody broke into my house again? Well, did you call
the cops? No, tiger food's expensive, it is.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
I don't know. Did they make like tiger chow? Did
they make tiger chow that you can just grab in
a bag and a tiger?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (48:21):
Yeah, asked the Tiger King. I bet he kept tiger chow.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Neighbors. What what.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
Did you all see that? The Tiger King guy just
put out a brand new album of like love songs.
It popped up on my Facebook wall and I went
to I wanted to see. I didn't know it was
a song or anything. I just thought it was a
video of him and I was like, Oh, what lame
o'd thing are they gonna say now? And I clicked
on it and it was him singing this like skinky

(48:51):
love song. It was so I couldn't get it off
fast enough.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I was like, stop, I'm I'm weirdly intrigued.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
It was terrible. It was terrible.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Terminator. Yes, mm hmm, little presdent nightcrawlers, I'll be.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Their own val all right.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
So we've got to talk about Project Asylum right the
base near Area fifty one, where supposedly the military has
been collecting up all the different kinds of cryptids and
they've been taking those cryptids and they've been splicing them
together to make supercryptids that they're going to use in
the military and warfare. So what do we think about

(49:49):
this thing? There's like somebody did an interview on oh,
what's the name of that podcast, Joe Rogan Joe Rogan
Experience somebody I don't know the name of the do,
but somebody was on there talking about it that they
had actually been in parts of it and seen some

(50:09):
of the cryptids and claimed that there's cryptids in there
that no one's even heard of, and some of them
are very very old because they've been there for so
long being tested on and stuff. I was like, Okay,
that is so far fetched. I don't even know if
I can grasp that one at all.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
So they have like Grandpa Alien Grace, it's.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Not aliens, it's just cryptids. They have aliens at a
different place. So this is just they've literally, like men
in black, have been going around gathering up every kind
of cryptid they can find, and then they test on
them and figure out what they're specialized at. And they've
been splicing and mutating these cryptids together to create supercryptids

(50:55):
that we can send out to do our crap for us.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
That explains the Mantag monster. It was a cross between
a raccoon and a cupicabre.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
And so says it's an interdimensional zoo.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I mean it sounds like it does kind of sound
like that.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Yeah, yeah, Can said he heard this morning that the
US government owns over eighty percent of Nevada, and no
wonder weird stuff comes from that area, but.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Not as weird as California.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Oh, my gosh, I'm trying to find that episode.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
I only see if I can try to fight a
pi uh, this Chinese pig creature for people while we're
on here.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
That's a very good point. And so he said, because
a chunk of Nevada is still irradiated from all the
nuke testing, you're probably right. I mean, it's your noble
at all the weird animals that have pop back up there.
Oh yeah, but they're a little.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Off, yeah, I mean, uh, it's surprising how well uh
animals are adapting to the area. I mean, they're prone
to cancer, but there's been some really weird ah and

(52:25):
apparently successful mutations. So that's it's pretty interesting and it
will continue to be an interesting study for centuries unless
they figure out somewhere to clean up that site.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Easier life finds a way. Yeah, you're right, it will.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
I mean, uh, I can't remember where they found it.
There is an evidence of a natural nuclear reactor, uh
billions of years old that they found, so m hm hm,
you know there's that. So, and it didn't destroy all

(53:13):
the life in that area, and maybe that's where we
got some of our weird mutations from.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
So, I mean humans, Yeah, definitely weird. I'm that way.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I resemble that comment it you know that that makes
life Weirdness just makes life more interested. Yeah, embrace the weird, people,
embrace the weird.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
That should be your new check line, that should be
your your moniker, the weird.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Yeah, I mean we can make that happen. It doesn't
take long.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Most of the horrific type of mutations die off pretty quickly. Yeah,
that's true. Yeah, that's been the case that they're finding
out for sure, and.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Then the ones that stick around are weirdly successful.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
I remember seeing a documentary on it. It's been a
few years ago, but it's like they followed a mom
and the kittens. Maybe it was a dog in our puppy.
I think it was a mom and our kittens, though.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I remember something about that, but I don't remember the particulars.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Yeah, they were inside the contamination area and they had
set up cameras or something to watch them and see
how they did, and they did really well.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
You can go visit the area now, it's wild. I mean,
I'm done having kids. I guess it could be interesting.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Yeah, you don't want to have any more kids, you're good.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
I have no plans and no desire to have that.
I'm good. I'm an empty nester now and it's kind
of nice. I'm hoping it will stay that way.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
We're all three Wait a minute, we're all three empty
nesters now, aren't we.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Oh that is awesome. That is awesome.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
That's wild August m.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah. I mean does anybody else have any uh good
stories or ideas? So I I really I think we've
almost ran out of material.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Yeah, we could, we could elaborate a little bit on
where we think cryptids do come from. There's one hundred
and one theories behind it.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Yeah, I mean I really think a lot of them
are just forgotten creatures. I mean I already talked about
the Tasmanian tiger they think is making a comeback because
there's people seeing things that are remarkably like the photos
of the one that died in thirty eight. So there's
stuff like that, and then you've got, uh, where did

(56:38):
that go?

Speaker 4 (56:39):
What was the one? There's a type of woodpecker too.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
That the Ivory built woodpecker was discovered in Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Mh. So that was I think for a really long time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
So the fact that some of these things are said
to be extinct doesn't necessarily mean they are because they
found all sorts of things in recent years. Oh, this
has been extinct since nineteen seventy six. Then they find
a whole colony of them. Oh well, I guess we
miss some. But yeah, it's almost like being extinct sometimes

(57:22):
for these creatures is their safety net because if their extinct,
people stop looking for them, they leave them alone, and
then they have time to recover. Why would I look
for this if it's they've declared it extinct. That's almost
the best protection you can get.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Maybe they just slipped into another dimension.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Or slipt out. Yeah, so people do it.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
So here's a list of species that used to that
people thought were cryptos that are actually real. So the
komodo dragon until nineteen ten, they thought it was fake, right,
The platypus, I thought it was fake. Until the eighteenth century.

(58:09):
They thought it was made believe, make believe. The okappy, yeah,
there was believed to be encrypted until the nineteenth century.
Even the gorilla, it was apparently encrypted until a particular time.
I'm not going to sit here and read all of it.

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The giant squid is real, we know now.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Yeah, they've washed up and they've got uh, they've gotten
deep down of huge squids. They are not, however, going
to sink your ship. They're not quite crap.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
This is interesting, so the kangaroo. Kangaroos were once crypted.
It's the first description of a kangaroo was made by
Amerigo Vespucci in fourteen ninety nine when he was traveling
along the southern coast of Australia. He described it as
a monstrous beast with the head of a fox, the

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hands of a man, the tail of a monkey, and
a bag that is used to carry its young. In
sixteen twenty nine, Francisco Pelsert captured a kangaroo, but it
died on his voyage. It wasn't until Sir Joseph Banks
rediscovered the kangaroo on Captain Cook's voyage in seventeen seventy
that the kangaroo changed from an enjoyable myth to an

(59:34):
actual species.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
And then the soley anth I mean, I thought that
had been extinct for millions of years.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
All that there that for me, Mark I was talking
about how beautiful Tasmanian tigers are. They're a cool looking.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
They are cool looking critters. I do really hope they
are seeing real Tasmanian tigers out there in the woods
and that they do make it comeback.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
How cool would that be?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
That would be awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
Uh don't those have like a weird like Latin name too,
like a thilus thylacinea.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Yeah, they're they're funky and they're not You're not really
a tiger. They're more canine.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
But looks like it's a cross between a zebra and
a whole bunch of other things, kind of like a platypus.
Like it's a little bit of everything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Well, everything in Australia looks like it's a you took
a bunch of animals and put them in a blender.
I mean they've got a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Yeah. I just thought it was interesting with the kangaroo,
Like none of us ever would consider a kangaroo to
be encrypted, because it's been a true creature all of
our lives. We grew up knowing what a kangaroo was.
But if you really think about the explanation that they
gave for it, like the head of a fox and
the tail of a of a monkey, and it had

(01:01:04):
a pocket that it keeps it s young. When you
think about that from like the outside end, that sounds
like one of our cryptids. You know, you throw a
goat head on you know, a human body with you know,
a monkey tail or something, and we're like, oh, cool cryptid.
That that would be encryptid them too. If you look
at a kangaroo, it is kind of shaped that way,

(01:01:24):
like it has a little small head like a fox would,
and it has a big, old, long, thick tail like
maybe a larger monkey species would have, and then a
pocket that it carries its kid in is totally weird.
So yeah, I would back then, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Have been like, that's totally not an artist draw. Yeah,
tried to describe it. People would look at you like, well,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
They talk about off the as if the blind men
describe an elephant and one of them touches the trunk,
they describe the trunk and every one touches the tail
and the one the ears. You know they're going, you're
gonna come with this really weird creature that doesn't make
sense at all. It's kind of the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
It really is, Sylvain, Hi Sylvain.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
And so the plata pi reveal God's sense of humor,
It's very true.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Or then he can go on a bender on the occasion. Honestly, honestly,
if I had to put up with us, I'd probably
go on a bender. I'm gonna lie, have you seen
the human race? I would drive any deity to drink
That's true. So sorry, I'm not trying to be disrespectful,

(01:02:47):
but honestly, humans are something else. I don't know if
I would want to be for the creation more than
the two that I've already created.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Right all right on with the theory, so I have.
I believe that it's kind of a mix. Like I
think some of them are literal old ancient lost ones
that have re emerged or they never truly quite died off.
I also think some of them are a type of

(01:03:21):
interdimensional where we're literally like seeing each other through a
thin spot, or perhaps they came through and we're here
for just here for a little bouts of time, and
then pop back out again, probably against their will. I
don't know if many of them are doing it purposefully.
Maybe Bigfoot would be doing it purposefully because they tend

(01:03:42):
to have I in my estimation, they tend to have
a little bit more thought behind them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
They have a little bit more y, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
A little bit more intelligent. So perhaps they're popping in
and out purposefully. I don't know. That's just a theory,
but I think there's a whole mix of stuff going on,
and I have no doubts that we have more than
just our world. I think there's many, many parallel things
going on, and it's all waving and touching at certain spots,

(01:04:12):
and things are popping through, which would explain the pterodactyls,
even if they're from maybe our same timeline. Perhaps that's
wrapping back around again and retouching in places, so we're
getting overlapping. Who knows, Oh no, Inzo not with the

(01:04:34):
poop again. And we almost got through a whole show.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
We did almost get through a whole show.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
So close.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
So oh Ken thinks that a lot of them originated
from radioactive leakage.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Well, and so what is the possibility that some of
these creatures are other creatures that we're familiar with, but
they're just a throwback.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
Oh maybe like something old and a DNA chain popped
out and and there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Some of these are just one off and they happen
once in a while, you know, like once in a
while you'll get a guy with real heavy brow ridges
and a ni brow and you know, he looks like
a neanderthal. So it's just and it's a one off.
The rest of the family looks fine. There's nothing wrong
with his head. He just has those features.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
Yeah, I don't blame you again, it was definitely in
Zo that started at this time ship for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
You need to take that person, did you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Yeah, I'm I deleted the comments.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
I was gonna say it was blocking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Yeah, so what what's not to say? You get a horse,
for instance, and has a throwback to some uh distant
relative or some mutation that looks like a unicorn or whatever. Yeah, Mark,
and then he sells Geico.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
We've all met those guys.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
You're right, Ian, it wasn't you this time.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
Yeah, it's totally not you. It's all on Inso.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Yes, you've been a good boy. I thank you, you
have thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Yes, Onz, we have the book at the life everybody
poop AnyWho where else?

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
So like we've got like ancient stuff, we've got interdimensional
and now all Kin's bringing in radioactive leakage alien to
have some of them been brought here from other places, perhaps.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
Something that step on the spaceship.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Intergalactic dumping, stop dumping your pet on Earth.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
Oh, that's right. Everybody gets that new pet at Christmas.
All those aliens get new Christmas pets and then they
just dump them here and when they don't want to
take care of them, we get everybody's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Right, intergalactic bunnies we're getting rid of.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
I think not a huge amount, but I would think
that a small amount of cryptids are tulpas.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
I would agree absolutely, they're simply.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Just like that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Oh that, where did I put that? That creature out
of Lower California? What was that thing called.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Enzos sewer Crocs are not cryptids.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
The billy Wack monster at a Santa Paula, California, that
half goat half man that throws rocks and swing sticks
and chases cars, and you know everybody has seen it
and knows exactly where it pops up at it now,
you know, they said it was a lab experiment from
some labs that was buried underneath an old dairy. You

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know that sounds like the perfect urban legend that like
every little town has. But there were so many stories
about it, and it has grown so big you wonder
if that doesn't actually exist now because so many kids
and people grew up scared of the thing and going
out there and scaring each other. That they've actually created

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the Billy Whack monster and it does actually haunt that
area out there, but it may not have actually had
its roots in anything, right, right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Slender Man started out as pasta.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Yeah, and now everybody's seeing him the hat Man and
a lot of those, So, yeah, that is entirely possible.
I mean, we've seen how big of an effect social
media has had on creating tulpus. I mean, I truly

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believe that that's what's happened because some of these people
and you tell them what you think they're seeing, and
there's that I've never heard of that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
Yeah, Ken thought monsters, that's a that's a good for it.
And Inzo says someone manifested the Flatwoods Monster. I don't
think so. I think the Flatwoods Monster was an actual military.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
I think it was constructed.

Speaker 5 (01:10:02):
Yeah, I think it was metal and constructed. And yeah,
especially I mean Inenzo's made mentioned this before when we
were talking about Flatwood's Monster on other podcasts and stuff,
that it's odd that it was like a one and done.
Like most cryptids, you see it multiple times over the

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course of at least maybe a year or more, or
it'll pop up a couple of years here and then
there's a long time and then it'll pop up again.
But the Flatwoods Monster was a one and done.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
That was it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
It was seen the one time by the little small
group of people and then that was never seen again.
So I really think that kind of leads credence. Yeah,
I think it was a test. I think they were
just going, let's take it out here, this little backwoods area.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
And just see what. Yeah, yeah, makes sense. I mean
that's what I would do if I wanted to test
something or you know, just play an awesome practical joke.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
I think the Flatwood Monster it became such a huge deal,
not because, you know, because it was only seen the once.
So what makes it so incredible? Well, it it was
a high strange in a situation. So you had the
the supposed UFO crash, and then you had I think
it was like there was two separate two five or

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six different people that saw it. There was a group
of teenagers and then like think I think two individuals
that made their way up there to investigate, and then
there was the weird fog that messed with them. They
had like the irritated eyes and nose and like lungs
for a while, and it made the news because a

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lot of people in the area saw what they thought
was the UFO crash but didn't go up there. So
it was just a multiptitude of things happening all at
one time that made it really big. Plus, no one
had ever heard of a creature that looked like this
out of all the cryptids you can think of, if
you just see a silhouette of the flat Woods Monster,

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you know what it is. And you can't say that
with a lot of the other creatures. You know, there's
dog men everywhere. You know, there's deer women and stuff
like that everywhere, but there's only one flat Woods Monster.
So I think it's just because it was so unique.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Yeah, I mean, and that makes sense. I mean, we
know that the government does weird things like that all
the time because you know, and honestly, these syops work,
psychological operations work, not always the way they intend them
to be, but they always do something. So I don't know.

(01:13:02):
I think you're right. I think it's a mix of things.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
Oh yeah, I think it's a huge mix of things.
But do I think cryptids are real and some of them. Yes,
I do. I do think that some of them are real, and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
I think that there's a lot of misidentification out there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Yeah, there absolutely is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Like I said, you could get throwbacks. I mean, I've
seen pictures of wolves that don't look anything like either
of their parents. So it would not surprise me in
the least if to wolt. Because you know, we've talked
about the the dire wolf sightings. Mm hmm, it would

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not surprise me that once in a while we don't
get a throwback that looks a lot like a dire wolf.
You know, it's bigger and stronger and meaner looking than
the rest of the wolves. Yeah, it would not surprise
me at all, because we might they.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
They reported those cumongous wolves from Skywalker Ranch, right, those
ones that were like literally they were saying they were
their backs were up at the nooks of the trees
as they walked underneath that they were knocking branches out
of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
There's as a horse.

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
Yeah, so maybe that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
Another another interesting thing to think of is what if
we're computer simulated. True, so if you look at it
from that direction, you can go a thousand different ways
with that Hello, glitch bad coating. Heck goodness, you can

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go thirty different ways with that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Yeah, I mean so there there are as many theories
as there are people out there, probably like you, I
tend to think it's a mix of things. You've got. Well,
we've discussed most of them. Actual creatures, government conspiracies, throwbacks,

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you know, dimension travel. I mean, it could be anyone
or all of those things, and I really think it's
more than one. Yeah, bulletproof unstoppable wolves at Skinwalker Ranch, Well,
have you ever shot a hog? Unless you kill a hog,

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If you shoot a hog, all you did was just.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
Piss it off it all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Exactly. So yeah, unless you get the kill shot, something
like that is probably going to keep on aging. And
even a deer. I've made kill shots on deer and
seen him run three four hundred yards, you know, with
both of their lungs, a total mess. So big giant wolf, Yeah,

(01:16:04):
I would say that they are probably fairly unstoppable if
they want to be. I just wish we could get
a throwback sabertoothed tiger and I could have it as
a pet, like Bam.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
Bam on the Flintstones. Didn't he have a pet? Cyber tooth.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
You know, I could feed it methods. It'd be fine.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Who I wouldn't do that, you're you're poor tiger.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Oh yeah, I wouldn't want to upset his stomach.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Yeah, it would be terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
I'll have to be careful with that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
He'll be We'll feed the meth heads to the giant squid.
He'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Yeah, yeah, lots of water to watch it out of
his system.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
Ken Ken says, me ow, roar, wow, and stead.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
According to the tail, they shot it and chunks of
flesh flew off from it and it just casually walked away. Yeah,
I remember that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
Yeah, it's one of the I don't even know if
you can call those things cryptids. I don't know what
those were like. Yeah, they don't. They weren't. They aren't
there all the time. They just kind of pop in
and out occasionally inopportune times. You would think that if
those huge wolves were there all the time, that the

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people who lived there couldn't keep cattle at all. I mean,
the cattle were getting taken off by UFOs apparently and
getting sent back, you know, completely gutted. But you would
think that they would have no cattle at all if
they had wolves that big you think when cow would
be a meal. Yeah, yeah, so it's a weird.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Where it's in and out of dimensions whatever that is.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
And so says, we'll just have mefed out squids that
could be bad.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Written lack in everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Ink.

Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
Ink. Oh man, you guys may be ink.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
We are out in the weeds.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
We are show we're still talking about cryptos. We're not
completely in the weeds.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Well, that's true, that's true, a little weedy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
I was trying to think if there's anything else. So
we've done ancient history and DNA popping up, we've done
side parallel universes, we've done tulpas, we've done simulation theory.
If we were computers, so they'd be bad coding and
stuff like that, or stuff put together to scare the

(01:18:59):
Bejesus out of us. Just giggles.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Yeah, I mean we've already talked about some of the
evil things people do in the sims.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Mmm.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
Yes, like my kids sitting there watching some dude burn
in the corner and she took away his door.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Oh my gosh, at least it was only the SIMS.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Hopefully, I hopefully, Yeah, that our video games aren't an
actual another world within our world kind of thing, and
she was literally there was some dude burning somewhere because
of my kid.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
Feel bad about all my Fallout games.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
And think about you have the little commercials they have
if you play in another game and they pop up
wanting you to play this other one. But it's it's
the mom that gets kicked out with a little kid
and they're freezing to death. Yeah, it's like, are they
what if they're caught in a loop somewhere?

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
You know, Oh, dear, that's terrible for horrible people.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
I know it's awful. I don't play those games.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Yeah, yeah, you're making me feel awful because you know,
I'm a big Fallout fan and sky.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
Rim Oh, I know what we should touch on a
little bit. So backstage, Pam was talking about melon heads
and we were kind of discussing whether or not that
could be considered encryptid but maybe, so just talk about
the melon heads and we'll let everybody in the chat
room decide what they think.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
So the melon heads, there's a couple of different places
where they pop up. Stories about them pop up too,
and I already knocked my stuff down on them. But anyway,
the biggest the biggest one about it is that they
were these children that were in an asylum and they
may have started out with have hydrocephalus, which is the

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fluid on the brain so your head gets misshaped. And
there's a theory that there was this doctor that was
doing the various things with patients and that he was
injecting additional fluid into these children and he ends up
they end up killing him, if I remember how the
story goes, They end up offering him and they run

(01:21:21):
away into the woods. So you can see these melon
heads is what they're called, out in the woods, and
they'll show up like if you're out parking or whatever,
you know, here they come and they've got these ginormously
misshapen heads and they just look really weird. But that
that was supposedly, if they are a thing, that they
were supposed to have come from this one particular doctor.

(01:21:45):
But the problem is that they show up at Michigan,
they show up in Ohio, and there's different doctors that
are attached to different places with them.

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
So I think there's one. I think there's one in
Missouri too. I think there's the Missouri melon heads.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
Yeah, So the question is do we count those as
cryptids or is that more like a a haunted urban
legend horror type of situation.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Like an early creepypasta type thing.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Yeah that's yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
Yeah o K said things, and yeah, Kin says, Saint
Louis has the bubbleheads North County area along the Missouri River.
Similar story misshapen heads, so bubbleheads. Yeah, it would be
the same kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Yeah. I think it's like gravity hills and all those stories,
cribaby bridges and all that stuff. I think it's just
one of those things that spreads.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Yeah, I'm there hasn't been like a horror movie or
has there? Have they made a horror movie?

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Oh? Yeah, Okay, there's been a couple of them.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
I think. Oh Inso has a point. He says, if
that's a cryptid, then you have to start adding in
black eyed kids and such.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
We need to, like we should come up with our
own term for that kind of like category of stuff
like melonheg kids, black eyed kids, something that's not encryptid
but more. I don't know how do you. I don't
know how we would do that, but.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Yeah, I will medic it's like a.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Well, the black eyed kids would be that. I was
gonna say, it's it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Alien.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
Well it's a medical Ah, I'm dying here, guys. What's
the word I'm looking for. I don't know, like basically
medical malpractice.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Oh yeah, now you've seen the people tattooing their eyes, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
Oh that's so gross.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
You've only got a fifty to fifty chance of blindness.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
Yeah, so hear about those kids. There was a whole
group of kids at some elementary school last week. I
don't remember where it was, but one of them snuck
a tattoo needle into school and they spent all day
long tattooing each other.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Oh god.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
And they didn't catch it until the end of school,
and they had to like call up like twenty different
sets of parents to have them take their kids to
the hospital to get tested for you know, blood infections
and stuff like that, because they all use the same
needle and they were like writing each other's names on
their arms and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
I did a lot of things as a child, but
I didn't do.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
That such a thought too.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
Yeah, and so how would they not hear that they
didn't have it on they were scratching it into their skin.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
And the crazy thing is is like the bulk of
it happened in this one particular classroom. Like it got
taken through like three different classrooms, but the bulk of
it happened in one and the teacher was in there
the whole time and either didn't notice or didn't care
what they were doing. And that teacher is like on
paid leave right now until they investigate how it happened
with them right in the room. So that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
How do you not see that they don't pay me
to see that?

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
Goodness?

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
I literally have worked in schools and I've heard teachers
say stuff like that, they don't pay me to do that.
I'm paid to do this. So of course every job
I've ever had, I've ran into people who say they

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don't pay me to do that. It's not my job.
So if they truly think that's not their job, they don't.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
Care, Well, he's gonna think it's or he or she's
going to think it was their job when they lose
their job and have to pay a huge fine because
a whole bunch of kids were using a dirty needle.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Where there's fast food call centers, train yard. I mean,
I've worked in a lot of places, and I've heard
those words from people at almost every place I've ever worked.
It's not my job, I don't care. I mean, seriously,
it's not a very nice thing to say about humanity,

(01:26:23):
But every job I've ever had, I've heard those words. Yeah,
that's sad.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
It is that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
I mean, you expect the adult in the room to
actually be the adult in the room, but that is
not always the case. So anyway, on that cheery note.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
There, I know, right, And there were so many fun things.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
I encourage everybody to go out and do your own research.
Do look at the conspiracy theories. Some of them are
very entertaining, some of them are so likely they're scary,
and some are just plain WTF.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
You can waste an entire day on YouTube looking at
this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
You will.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Then you will go down other rabbit holes and other
rabbit holes kind of like this.

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
Like when I did this evening, I was almost late
getting onto the podcast because I was doing research for
the show, and en route I found new stuff on
Mothman that I hadn't seen, where he'd had a huge
thing down at Kennedy Space Center and I'd never heard
of it before, so I started like tracing all those
stories and like doing all the research on and I

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looked up at the clock and I had like ten
minutes to get on. I was like, crap, but you
made it. I've made it, and now I have more
stuff on Mofman. But I got to finish.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
Yep rabbit holes out in the weeds.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
Yes, yes, we do get out in the weeds a lot.
And you know, Phil and I have been playing around
with Groc, and Groc has told us we need to
get out of the weeds. But I really kind of
like it there, so I'm not sure I'm going to
be able to follow that advice. So I'm not out here.

(01:28:44):
We don't make money on the show. What little money
comes in. Bought my business cards last year. That was it.
I mean I spend hundreds of dollars a month or
every two months. I spent a lot of money, and
I get a little crazy with the equipment. But this

(01:29:06):
is this is a hobby. It's an enjoyable hobby. I
get to hang out with my friends. We get to
talk about ridiculous things and serious things and hopefully entertain
you guys. But I hope you have been entertained tonight,
and I hope you will look up some of the
stuff and entertain yourself for a while and get on

(01:29:30):
What If Tomorrow podcast group if you've got something you
want us to talk about, and we'll talk about it.
We're game to see what.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
AI is suggesting. You need to stay on topic. You
may have a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
End so you're you're absolutely correct. I do have many problems.
That is a whole nother show for several Yeah. I
may be the problem. Honestly, I may be the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
No, you're right there with you, all right. Awesome to
take fun seriously, that's the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
Yes, yes, and that's that's that's our that's our reason
for being is to have fun and maybe be informative
and entertaining. All right, Well, if you girls don't have
anything else, I think we're we're about out of here.

Speaker 5 (01:30:45):
Yea, all right, Thank you for everybody hanging out in
the Chatswes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Absolutely we had some new people out here in the
chats and we didn't get to talk with everybody tonight,
but I'm very glad add that, uh, everybody got on
here and participated, and we hope to see you again.
Soon Yeah that. Good night, folks, goodnight night. M hm

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Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
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