TTPD ft. Taylor Swift, Hozier, and Kygo

Breaking down initial reactions of The Tortured Poets Department, and recapping some of the other hot releases you may have missed!

Episode Transcript

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Build me up, baby, justto let me down, mess around,
and the worst of all, youcan have a cap baby, way say
you will. What's up? I'mJohn, I'm Marley, and I'm Mikayla,
and you're listening to on the playlistand I heard radio New music podcast.
John never gives us a warning.Nope, nope, It's just right

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into it and it's go time.It's go time, guys. I'm so
tired. I have not slept.I can imagine how many collective hours of
sleep do you think we have asa unit today. I'm gonna have more
than you. Yeah you think so. Yeah, Mikayla Hobbie six hours,
oh total total, maybe a littlebit less. She's she's winning the I

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don't even know if this is aI have not finished the second album,
so that's why I had four.I gotta be straight up honest, neither
did I. I like spent somuch time on the first sixteen songs of
this Taylor album because I do NewMusic Friday segment for our radio station every
week. Oh sorry, I justrealized I have this monitor in the way
of me sing Mikayla h I know, but that's okay. How you wanted
my camera song Gotta Be has GottaBe. First of all, welcome on

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the playlist. My name's John Michaela'shere somewhere. I can't see her,
but she's here. Hey, what'sup, dude. Marley's over there.
Hello. We're all a little bitlack of sleep because obviously just the Taylor
album came out last night, andlike I was saying, I do a
new Music Friday segment on our radiostation every single week, and so I
have no warning about the songs thatare coming out because everything is so secretive.

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We obviously knew a Fortnite with postMalone because she teased it a little
bit, didn't really know much ofthe rest of the album. So I
get there and I listened to thealbum premiere on iHeartRadio, and I just
finished my report like I am,like, I got my songs, everything's
written. It's like eleven PM,and I shut my laptop and then I
get a text from Marley sing TaylorSwift just dropped fifteen more songs. I

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texted that, actually, sorry,I got a text from Mikayla sang Taylor
Swift just dropped fifteen more songs,And there was a moment I decided I
wouldn't end my life, but Iwas close, but I was both up.
Taylor, we got to sleep,dude, you know, drops fifteen
more songs at two am? Wait, but I have a question. It
wasn't even two am. It waseleven for us. So do you think
the East Coasters stayed up? Though? Yes? Okay, so a lot

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of them did, but some Iposted this TikTok that was essentially talking about
the iHeartRadio album premiere, which we'retalking about in a second two. But
it aired at nine pm Our time, Pacific time and midnight East Coast,
and there were so many people onthe East Coast commenting this sucks, like
I want to see this or hearthis so bad. But a lot of
these fans or moms, you know, and they're like, my kids are

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still going to get up at sixam with or without me, so I
gotta go to sleep. And Icommented back to one of them, and
I was just like, you know, I think that's actually the worst part
about living on the East Coast isthat you actually have to wait till midnight
for new music. That was myway for a long time. Oh yeah,
keep forgetting You're from that part ofthe country. How wild, Like,
I'm so grateful we don't have towait. It's like it's the best

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privilege of the West Coast, Ithink, at least for US music fans,
Like I don't think I would everstay up till midnight for music,
especially working out a morning show.There's no way, no way. But
I also think that when I wasyounger, I thought you guys had a
wait till midnight too, So Iwas like, we get it early because
we don't have a content concepts oftime zones three hours early. Yeah.
Wait, I feel like I thoughtthat at one point too. Was that
ever the case? No, probablynot, huh, but I will some

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award shows if they weren't live.I feel like sometimes like that was the
case. Sometimes everything was just eightI just know everything was eight seven Central
for me, and I always paidattention to channel and I was Central times,
so I always paid attention to Centraltime. Did shows never started another
time? I feel like every commercialwas always eight seven Central. That's all
I heard too, The show comeson? What else? What else played

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before that? You know? Yeah? Nothing worth advertising? I guess no.
I think, like I remember theywould say, like Liz Maguire six
seventh Central, like it would alwaysbe really yeah huh. Also Australia,
they actually get new music from beforewe do, like actually the day before.
Oh yeah, isn't that a notTaylor? I think Taylor's album is
bigger to wear. Oh you're right, literally like a day before. Oh

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no, different time zone, yeah, because they're on Friday first. So
Laura who works on our show,she's our social media manager. Her phone
is from Australia because that's where she'sfrom, and so she gets new music
Friday on Thursday every single week.The Beyonce album we had Thursday at nine
am. It doesn't go by hertime zone where she is, and how
does that work? That doesn't makeany sense to me. So the cons

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about this are I guess she hasso many issues downloading apps in America,
Like it's hard for her to getAmerican Twitter because her phone is registered I
guess under the Australia Internet. Idon't really know how that works. So
I'm trying to figure out how toget my Spotify on Australia time so I
can get the songs on Thursday.I've been trying so hard. I've looked

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up so many YouTube videos. I'vebeen on Reddit, I've been on the
dark web, dark web, I'vebeen on dark web YouTube videos trying to
figure that out. And I can't. Dude, I guess you got to
go there, and I don't know. It's hard, but how cool would
that be to get everything a dayearlier? I just my mind can't.
I can't wrap my head around that. I know. It's how It's like
your phone doesn't register that you're notYeah what like I feel like that's how

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it would work. Rights Like ifyou got tracked to your phone would say,
oh, yeah, you're in America. So she like, is this
common knowledge that we just didn't know? I think she just changes to international
plan. That's what she does.Because if I go overseas, like I'm
like to London, I just paidfor the international plan. But if I
didn't, might I have no service? Yeah? I mean, but then
I do what I'm there. Butlike, even her Netflix and stuff is

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registered to Australia, so like ifshows come out only in Australia, she
gets them here, but she can'taccess some things that aren't available on It
doesn't make any sense. It doesn'tmake any sense. It doesn't and it
really annoys me. Anyway, wedid have this Taylor Swift album and one
thing I just we were just talkingto our boss about this, who just
walked in the room a couple ofminutes ago. I Heart Radio did this
album premiere with Taylor Swift that shehosted for this album, and first of

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all, it aired on so manydifferent radio stations around the country, and
it aired the entire first album nowthat I realized, all songs one through
sixteen in order at nine pm ormidnight wherever it was for you. They
aired it in order. Taylor Swifthosted and she was able to like talk
about some of the songs and itplayed her thoughts on them and how she
what she intended them to be about. And I just thought that was the

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coolest experience. It made me thinkthat radio was cool again, and like
that's awesome, you know, becauseI feel like there, I mean,
you could go to another streaming appfor just to stream the album, you
know, but to have like Taylorherself talk to you about the songs,
you couldn't get that anywhere else.And I was just such so pumped about
that. Let's go I heard.Yeah, I remember when I was younger

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too. I would always listen tothe radio for like any exclusives before a
song or with an artist, butnow with like, we've talked about this
before, but it's just overstimulation ofeverything. So it's cool that she gave
iHeart that little like, dude,I completely totally Yeah. I like went
out to my car because I knewthat the app would be delayed a little
bit, and I was like,I don't even want to be delayed.
I feel everyone's going to be talkingabout it in the moment. So I

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went to my car to listen toit on the radio, and I was
like, I haven't done that foranything, you know, Like and when
it's convenient, I'll put the radioon in my car, but I don't
go out to my car to listento something radio in my room for that
reason. Yes, tickets for contestfor just listening for interviews? Do you
think kids nowadays? Oh? Ihate that. I just said that.

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I despise me our podcast if wedidn't talk about our age at least once
once. I know, it's justit's hitting harder recently, Man, where
did you guys listen to the album? Me and my roommate had a listening
party. So we both sat onthe couch and we had the lyrics pulled
up to every song and dissected everysingle song as it played. Do you
go one by do you ever replaya song? Or do you just go

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all the way through the album theway through? Marley invited me, but
I she turned out it should be. I was also working while listening,
like doing some prep stuff. Okay. I sometimes don't listen to the whole
song through if I'm not vibing withit, especially I'll just listen to the

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first verse, the chorus. I'mlike, all right, I've had enough
of that, let me go tothe next. Then there's times where I
will repeat and replay because I'm like, I love that, MICHAELA, Okay,
shake my head, thank you.Oh my god. No, I
hate to admit it, but I'mthe same way, dude. I'm the
same way. Unless it's like,oh, well, I like Taylor Swift.
I wouldn't say that I'm a Tierone Swift ye right, No.

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If it's an artist I love,then yes, I have to listen to
the whole song. But if it'snot, dude, I'll get what I
can get. And if I'm overit. I'm like, yeah, let's
go to the next I'll come back. But Mary, I thought you hold
on. Don't argue with me thereis okay, don't. What I was
saying is I thought you guys weretalking about in general you just skip around
songs, not necessarily with Taylor's album. Actually we're talking about the listening album.

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I'm talking about music in general.Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
but but the beef was fun fora minute, right, No, I
hate beefing actually, but thank youso much. I noticed. Yeah,
we were just talking about why Ididn't stay with you and listen because I
don't listen to this full songs whatyou were saying, but you said you
don't listen to the full songs threasand like the full songs as in like
songs as a whole, nonss.I was saying, Taylor clarification album.

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Yeah, I just needed some clarificationthere because I know you beef with Taylor,
So yeah, this is true.With Taylor, I just don't obsess
over her. I was a fanback in the day, but now,
like, I don't listen to heron the rag. But if I do
like her music, like nineteen eightynine, I had that CD playing every
single day for my whole that wholeyear of college. And guess what when

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I sold that car, the CDwas still in it. Sad day,
it's still in that you sold thecell Bug? Yeah, so cool.
I think I on the scale ofswiftness, Marley's on top of this group
for sure. She's a swiftye.If it was the Jonahs Brothers, for
me, I would listen to thewhole song, the whole album through.
Yeah, absolutely no, I totallyget that. Okay, So let's talk

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about the mood of the album.Let's start there because I feel like there's
so much to dissect. I obviouslydon't. This is the first day it's
out. It's been out for amatter of hours, so we're not going
to have the best, most indepth coverage here, but like, what
was your feel of the album sofar? Because we were talking about it
on the morning show today. Ifeel like it all very much has a
similar vibe. It's very moody,it's very emotional, it's very lyric heavy.

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I think, did you guys writeit for me? I'm not into
it interesting. I don't think thiswas her best album, very very lyric
heavy, whereas she's so into usuallylike, yes, the lyrics are telling
a story and there's production, butthis lacked the boppiness. Yes, yeah,

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I hear that. But when Istarted listening to the second album,
I like that better. I wasmore vibing with it. That was my
favorite. Marley, what say you? You've been holding back the comments?
She's bubbling. I don't want Mikaylacoming for my neck again with has come
for her neck? That rhyme?No, she's been cooking. I have

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a very different opinion than Mikayla.Yeah, this is good. I liked
the first half. I did notlike the second half because I'm hearing both
sides throughout my day. So whyMikayla and I are beefing? Yeah,
this is a real beef. Guys. I will not be in Marley's car
and he's I'm seeing tonight driving separatelistening to different halfs of the Taylor Swift

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album Hello. Yeah, I didn'tlike the second half as much as I
liked the first. So I didn'tsit with the second half nearly as much,
obviously because it came out so muchlater. Yeah, but I just
think there's more. There's there's moresongs. They gravitated to in the first

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Yeah, I feel like a lotof the lyrics were very specific this time.
Yeah, you know, I meanshe's very like good in the way
she crafts her lyrics and other albums, but from at least what I could
tell, like this one seemed likeshe was painting literal pictures. Yeah,
and she wrote this with Jack Antonovright like some of the songs, and
it reminded me a lot of Bleacher'snew album. Yeah, that's what someone
else just said too. They saidthey could see more of jack Antonov's influence

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on this album more so than manyof the amb Ones before it. I
agree with that. Yeah. Sure. So the opening track is her with
post Malone on a song called Fortnite. So this one's obviously like a vibe,

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but like, as the song reallyprogressed towards the end, I feel
like that's when I kind of feltthe magic of it. And I didn't
get as much post Malone as Ithink I wanted, but it was of
nice. Did he just eased himselfin? It wasn't like rapping or like
this is not his style, thisis not his vibe, And I loved
his part in this. Yeah,I agree. I agree. This song
has grown on me in the lasttwelve hours. But it's grown on me.

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Grown on me too, Marley.I liked it a lot too,
really, Okay, so battle ofthe posty features for the two queens here
Levi's Jeans with Beyonce or Fortnite withTaylor Swift. That's come on Fortnite really
because us I think I'm gonna goLevi's jeans, and I'm more of a

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Taylor Swift fan than Beyond. Healso had more of a I feel like
this feature was more prominent in Levi'sjeans. Yeah, that's that's true,
but Fortnite is more my sound,yeah, than Levi's jeans. I liked
Levi's Jeans though, I did rightright. It was interesting she was during
that album release. She was sayingthat this song in her mind takes place

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in this American town where you thoughtthat maybe this American dream would happen,
but for whatever, for whatever reason, it didn't, and maybe you didn't
end up with the person that youlove or the life that you thought you
were going to live, and youmaybe have to see reminders around about that.
So it's kind of like this longingand I feel like the vibe said
that to me, you know,like it's very like slow, like I
don't know, it just felt veryI feel like this is this sets the

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mood for the entire album. Ithink, yeah, yeah, h no,
I agree, but it was alittle bit more upbeat than I feel
like some of the other ones.This did remind me of kind of like
old Taylor, I guess. Okay, yeah, But also, did we
notice about this album how much sheswore in these songs? Okay? I
think I was listening to the cleanversion on accident, because I went to

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go load some of these songs onthe air, and there was one song
in particular, which one was it? But I went to go check the
lyrics and I was like, ohmy god, Taylor, she swears all
the time. I have to golook for the clean version. Didn't she
listen to it on the radio?Oh yeah, that's why done, that's
why you no, Like we're goingto bring up this song later on,

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but down bad like every other line. I was like, hello, right,
what oh that makes so much moresense because it's like I swear I
heard more seem to the clean version. Well, yep, you were,
you actually were radio? Okay,Well, that totally makes sense then,
but yeah, so I feel likeshe She was also saying that this whole
album is essentially different metaphors for alot of the different feelings and stuff that
she's going through, and one ofthe ones that stuck out to me was

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my boy only breaks his favorite toys. Okay, so bear with me for
a second on this one. Okay, So this perspective here, she's talking
about the perspective of a child's toy, right, being someone's favorite toy until

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they break you and they don't wantto play with you anymore, which is
how she thinks people are in relationships. Right at first, you're so valued
until they break you and they're done, and then maybe you're still clinging to
them and you're like, oh no, like you should have seen them,
seen them when they first saw me. Like they'll go back to that someday,
like they used to think I wasso special and you're just in denial.

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Yeah, that's so clever, isit? Though? Here's my question.
She just watched Toy Story and wrotethis song. Tell me it's not
true. This is Woody after Andy'sdone playing with him, and he's in
denial and he's like, no,like I'm still his favorite toy. Here's
what we're all andy? God,so well you're all andy. Look at

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this, the Taylor Swift denier hasnow become the leader of the pack.
I don't mean that, but Iinterpret it, interpreted it in that way,
but also kind of in like aself sabotagey way. Oh okay,
Like the bridge is once I fixme, he's gonna miss me. Yeah.
Where it's like, is that likea foreshadowing to her other song that's

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you know I can fix him?No? Really I can? Yeah?
True. I mean she did sayit's a about being in denial, So
there is a state of denial inQueen of Castles. He destroys like not
necessarily her self sabotaging the relationship,but watching somebody else self sabotage the relationship.
Yeah, it just it's toy storyto me. I can't shake it.
I can't shake toy story. It'swild. What are other ones that

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stood out to you, guys?I have a list here? Oh wow,
but okay, it's all thirty onesongs so long London. The beginning
of that was so cool. Itwent from like one vibe to like her
like kind of humming or whatever thesound is to literally a totally different song
is what it sounds like. ButI thought that was really catchy. That

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was one of the like darker onesI feel like on the album. Yeah,
no for sure, But the beginningdidn't make it seem like that because
it was just her like humming andsinging and harmonies. And then her song
fresh Out out the Slammer? Isit Out of the Slammer? Fresh out
the Slammer? Okay, I don'tthink I remember that one. That one
reminded me of Cool Summer. Ilike that where it's more of like the

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talking singing kind of you know,so that reminded me of Also another song,
do we feel like Taylor Swifts tryingto like hit herself up a little
bit too? Like Fresh out theSlammer? Down Bad? When I heard
down Bad, I was like,yeah, okay, I see what you're

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doing. Yeah, Like, dowe think she uses the words down bad
in her every day life? Maybeshe does? That one I think is
probably one of my favorites, tobe honest, down bad Now I'm down
bad Bryan at the gym, everythingblumbs out teenageulance him. I just would

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make nonfluence down, come on,She's so real for those lyrics. No,
I like, I liked now I'mdown bad, crying at the gym
please, everything comes out teenage petulance, Like first of all, petulance in
a song. She used that wordin a song like that is like I

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saw something on like social media thatwas like, you're going to need a
dictionary when you listen to this album. It's like because she has words like
petulance and even in Midnights it hadsome words and I was like, I
didn't think I was a poet.She's a tortured poet. But I'm loving
this character of Michaela slowly becoming aswifty But it's like being like a grown

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up and realizing that you're being likeyou're being acting childish about how you're feeling,
like not how you're feeling, butI'm trying to like be able to
describe it, but you know whatI mean, like being a grown adult
and knowing that like you're crying,like you're crying at the gym, go
be like why are you at gohome? You're aware that you're crying,
you know what I mean? Likejust being a grown up and realizing and

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like being able to sit with youremotions and you're just like, you know
what, I might just die itmake it will make no difference. Yeah,
I feel like being a grown upis just learning to process emotions better,
but you still feel them well,of course, and you should feel
them, right. But I justthink it's funny that she she put a
scene where she's like, oh,I'm at the gym crying, and it's

(20:15):
like everything is coming out like Iam I'm a like a teenager again,
Like I'm having all of these emotionsand they're so strong and I'm aware of
it because I'm a grown adult,and I don't know. I just thought
it was I thought it was solike thiswear in that one I did.
I almost commented on it, butI didn't want to interrupt Taylor. It's

(20:36):
like I'm noticing all these words now, crazy, crazy. I really loved
I think the one that was myfavorite so far, and maybe just because
it's one of the most upbeat ones, but it was I can do it
with a broken heart because I cando Brokenday. It kind of feels like

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old Taylor though a little bit,and now like it's it's a little bit
of an electropop beat, and butall I can think of is just Taylor
Swift at Don Daala Coachella, andI'm just like, Wow, Taylor Swift
has like a low key edm sideof her and I just I love it.
It's very low key in our music. Canny noises in the song.
I was like, it's sound likeelectronic, it sounds like Midnights, it
sounds like Labyrinth or Mastermind. Butsorry, good, No, I'm so

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sorry. I let's talk about this. Can we talk about We're talking about
the tempo and the upbeat and howfun it is. Can we talk about
how devastating those lyrics are? Yeah, I'm so depressed, but I act
like it's my birthday every day.The outro, you know you're good when
you can even do it with abroken heart. You know you're good because
I'm miserable and nobody even knows.And try and Come for My job?

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Why this song, this whole albumis so lyric heavy, because if you're
not actually paying attention to the lyrics, your loss, you don't get it.
The last line of the song istry and come for my job.
What was crazy to me is hearingthose lyrics and how deep that was.
And then if you watch it onSpotify, the background art is her just

(22:07):
at the air singing the different songs, and none of the other songs have
that in the background. So thenI started thinking about when this relationship with
Joelwin or Matty Healy fell apart,and it was in the midst of her
putting on the biggest tour this planethas ever seen seen, and she did
it with a freaking smile on herface. And she's going through a huge,

(22:27):
insane broken heart and just putting asmile on. We have no idea,
We had no idea, And that'sjust wild to me, Like,
not only is it strength and talentto put on that show in the best
headspace you could be, but todo that in the midst of a heartbreak
is and to not signal to it. It's just that kind of strength is
unbelievable. And like that gave mechills. I was like, dangn I'm

(22:48):
sorry, Taylor, Wait, canwe go back to Fortnite? Do you
guys? Who do you think that'sabout? Oh? I don't know,
because fortnite means a period of fourteendays, right, So people are saying
it could be Matti Heally's relationship.I think a lot of this album is
about Matti Healy. Really, Ithink it's like fifty Joe fifty percent Maddie.

(23:10):
I mean, I just really didn'tthink you serious with Maddie. Well,
she's also known him for years,so you have to think about it
that way. It's like, yeah, they only dated for like a blip,
but like they've known each other fora year. I don't know.
I mean, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I mean
they at least you could slap acasual dated on there. Sure, But
like again, think think about allof the like parallels that he had or

(23:33):
that she hasn't in her album.This is where I kind of go down
a rabbit hole. Okay, I'vebeen I've been on TikTok a little too
much. That's just decide I don'thave so take it. In the title
track, that's the one with theline about Charlie Pooth, I don't know
if you guys got yeah, whichwas I wonder how he woke up this
morning. This is the best dayof my life. Taylor thinks I should

(23:53):
be a non underrated artist. No, Like the title track, it absolutely
is about Maddie and because I likeyou smoked. Then eight seven bars of
chocolate? Is this the one?She said? What is the nineteen seventy
five's most popular song, Oh,chocolate, good chocolate? Yeah? Okay.

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Also, can we talk about ICan Fix Him in parentheses? No?
Really? I can think about howmany nineteen seventy five songs are set
up with the title where it's like, oh, like a line in the
song and then in parentheses something else. Oh yeah, and the whole song
is about no, I can fixhim, No really I can. And
then at the end of that songsays, no, really I can't.

(24:34):
That's the last line of that song. And then I want to get you
back, which is on the fifteensongs that I don't think you guys actually
got to right that one. Firstof all, it's very Olivia Rodrigo coated.
It's it kind of is the similarvibe of get him Back. Okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah, Butthe intro sounds like a nineteen seventy
five song, So did I listento it? But I didn't hear the

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Olivia Rodrigo like. It's the it'sthe like parallel of like Olivia's like I
want to get him back, likeI want to make him lunch. I
don't mean literally the sound of it. No, I meant like the correlation
the lyrics got it like that you'resaying it's not in parallel, isn't intentional
or you think it might be.I don't think it's intentional. Maybe,
but I mean, who am Ito say? But to the concept,
I think the concept is similar okay, where she's you know, I want

(25:19):
to get you back. But it'slike, do you like I want to
get you back? Like I thinkone lyric was I don't know if I
want to, you know, likeI don't know what the lyrics are,
but like pund you in the faceor like pull you in the closet.
You know, like there's like twodifferent like parafls to it, Like it's
very similar to Olivia Rodrigo. SoI just like was diving way too into

(25:41):
this and I was like, Ithink half of it is about Maddie.
I wouldn't be surprised, that's likeI think, but Daddy, I think,
but Daddy, I love him isalso about Maddie. What are these
memes about Harry Styles? Though?Because Harry Styles has a shirt that says,
but daddy, I love him onit, and he wore it often,
and obviously Taylor and him dated,so a lot of people were thinking,

(26:02):
oh, but daddy, I lovehim is very obviously about her relationship
with Harry Styles. But I'm alsolike, that relationship was ten years ago.
There's no shot she's still writing aboutHarry Styles. So I don't think
it's about him. But I thinkit's more of like a screw you to
everybody who thought that me dating Maddiewas like a bad idea because it was

(26:22):
all she wanted at the time,and all everyone was saying was like how
it was a mess and didn't thinkit was gonna work out, and how
he's you know, I actually credither for not giving a shit about that.
Yeah, and she was throughout thatsong too. She's talking about like
how she can't change how she feelseven though everyone was telling her, and
the like one of the I thinkit's a verse. I'll tell you something
right now, I'd rather burn mywhole life down than listen to one more

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second of all this bitchin and moanin. I'll tell you something about my good
name. It's mine alone to disgraceI don't cater to all these vipers dressed
in impath clothing, basically like screwyou. I I wanted to date this
guy and I did. Yeah,and impact clothing. Is this crazy?

(27:06):
So I mean it could also bea callback to the Little Mermaid. She's
a lyrical genius. I will say, like, when you read these lyrics,
you know, all all songs couldbe poems technically, right, But
I do think when you read these, these sound like poems when you take
the music out, you know whatI mean. Yeah. Also another lyric
correlation and that song is you know, one of the lines is I'm having
his baby. And then but HarryStyles has a song called Kiwi and that

(27:32):
line and that song, yeah,I'm having your baby and it's none of
your business. So I'm just like, I'm it's all debates. Thirty one
songs on this album, Like it'speople are going to be dissecting it for
a week, But thirty one isbackwards thirteen You're welcome. Oh my god,
she's right. She sure is right. That is you would be exactly

(27:53):
Okay, that's the two of youin the past fifteen minutes. It just
blow in my mind. Was somuch like Deep Swifty conspiracy. But that's
and it all makes sense. Likeand I listen, I really really like
Taylor Swift. I am not smartlike these, like these other thoroughly pops,
they are in it so live.Yeah. An observant, Yeah,
an observant and can pull stuff fromlike twenty thirteen and be able to correlate

(28:17):
it to this albums. I can'tdo that. But think about Taylor.
She leaves so many Easter eggs andkeeps us guessing, which is so fun
for the fans. Oh totally.But even this album here we are contemplating
on who these songs are about,and it could be about three different guys.
They could literally be about all nobody, about nobody. She could have
written these songs without thinking about anyof them. I think as someone who

(28:41):
kind of sees to Swift, butyou know what I mean, from an
outside perspective, like like Taylor Swift, I wouldn't consider myself the diehard Swifty.
I think I get turned off byhow intricate this world is because there
are so many conspiracy theories that Ithink it turns me off because a lot
of them seem like we're just stretchingto make things happen like your English teacher
making stuff up about the Great Gatsby, you know what I mean. And
it's like, how much of thisdid the author billly intent? But then

(29:03):
when you break down some of thisstuff and I'm like, oh, there's
no way that that's too much.Yeah, and that's when you bring me
back in and I'm like, oh, I get it now, you know,
I need Swifties to break it downfor me in a way that's easily
understandable, that's not going too farin the speculation, right, and like,
yeah, so all of the twosthat she was dropping, like when

(29:25):
she got her Grammy and she gaveup to you know, there's twos everywhere,
So she was alluding to this doublealbum for a long time. But
can someone brought this to my attentionthis morning? One of my friends,
all the twos? What's this weekend? Guess who's headlining? Guess who has

(29:47):
a song with Lanna del Rey,Taylor Swift. No, this is see
this is where you lose me.This is where you're losing The number two
is the most popular number, Likein the whole world, is any telling
me she drops a double album andshe's dating Travis Kelsey because two people make
a partnership. No, no,no, no, that is that is

(30:07):
way to see that. You're overwhere's the line? Where's the line?
That's what I want to know.What do you mean? Where's the line?
This is one of the like someonetold me that this morning and I
was like, oh, but butthe thing is, we only think of
this deeply about things because it's TaylorSwift and because she does this to us.
That's why we're like this. Becauseshe was dropping Taylor's version of reputation.
That's what they thought. They neverthought she'd release a second album later

(30:30):
that evening. I thought it wasgoing to be another album later this week
or something. But Kayla, youhad some Taylor Swift swifty dissector on your
morning show right on the sea questionwe did, yeah, and I remember
her kind of talking about this too. Is I saw a social clip of
it and how some of these cluesare in the artwork, right, how
the clock is two am or somethinglike that. Yeah, for like the
last that makes sense. But wethink her throwing up a peace signed at

(30:53):
the Grammys, yes, was intentlike into really yes? Okay, Yeah,
her name was Annie Lawrence and she'sat a swifty story on Instagram.
If you want to go get moredetails about these easter eggs. I'm telling
you I think she might show upat Coachella this weekend. Yeah, she

(31:15):
was there last week and that couldhave been like a hey, I went
this weekend, I'm not coming back. And a lot of people were like,
why didn't she show up to Lanaset because apparently she was only there
on day two. Oh my god, she was only there on day I
crap, I cracked the coat.She was only there on Saturday. I've

(31:38):
never I like, I feel likethe smartest person. I feel like the
smartest person in this room right now. So and this is what I mean,
Like, it's too much. Shewas only there on day two,
John, this is week and twoof Coachella. Please, she's gonna show

(31:59):
up, and she shows up,and if to your point, if she's
at Lana del resset, then that'sday one, and like, of course
you could find some too something.Maybe she'll maybe she'll sink snow on the
beach second or second to last,or it was just the lead up two
weekend two of Coachella singing with Lanadel Ray. I Also I also saw

(32:20):
TikTok this morning though that someone heardher uh checking snow on the beach.
So I'm just saying, Wow,if you're right, I'll tell you this
right now, if you're right,because we'll probably maybe drop this podcast hours
before that happens. If you're right, I will send you a text and
I will give you a very heartfeltapology. And if you're right about this,
I'll tell you you're right about everything. Now. I won't go as
far as to say, like,if she doesn't show up, your wrong

(32:42):
about everything, cause I think you'reright about ninety percent of this eighty two
percent maybe, but if she goeson that stage, I'm giving you the
full hundred. I'm going to restmy case. I will say everything is
a mastermind plan conspiracy. I'm sickand I'll be so impressed anyway. I'll
everything is a mastermind can and sometruth to it with Taylor stuff. Thank
you. Yeah, you could beright, michaeleb. You're saying that.

(33:05):
I'm kind of on board. Iloved it. It's it's hard to get
behind, but I do appreciate thebreakdown. It helps me stay informed.
Do we think Alchemy is about TravisKelseys I want to say so that and
so high school? So high school? Is that what it's called? Yeah,
that song reminded me of her oldstuff telling a story. I don't

(33:27):
know, it was just it's kindof yeah, it's like long live Yes
I will say, but Daddy,I Love him also reminded me of love
Story, but like reimagined, likealmost like a reincarnated version of that song.
But okay, anyway, final thoughtson Taylor album anything you wanted to
get to that we haven't covered yet. No, I think that's it feel
tailored out. Yeah, yeah,I think I spoke too much. This

(33:51):
is good. We have maybe uncoveredthe secret if she shows up a Coachella,
I just have no words. Andthe fact that, yeah, all
right, we're gonna take a quickbreak and then talk about other music that
came out this week, because shocker, there were other artists that drop music,
right, so we'll be right back, and we're back. It's caught

(34:17):
my breath. Okay, let's plugin the socks, because, believe it
or not, there were more.There was other music that came out this
week. Shocking, there was andwe haven't even gotten to talk about our
show with Knox this week. Howawesome was that? Dude? He has
first headline show he can perform.Yeah, so that so fun, I

(34:39):
think, guys, and I don'twant to like get ahead of myself here,
but what top three favorite artists rightnow? I think, yeah,
oh yeah, you know climbing.Yeah, Like, it's so rare that
you find an artist that a youresonate with not only just a couple of
songs, but I feel like everysong he has is a banger. And
I don't say that as an exaggeration, Like I feel like at his show

(34:59):
it was just good song after goodsong, and the energy was high the
whole time. And then we meetthe guy and like just the attention that
he pays to his fans and justpeople who know him, you know,
like he's just genuinely the nicest guy. Of course we had him on the
podcast. But the first thing hecomes up and says to me, when
I saw him at the pre showparty and he goes, hey, where's
the crew at where the girls?First thing he says, not hey,

(35:20):
John, how are you doing Mikayla? And I walked in and he goes,
there, they are the cruise here, and then he says Mikayla,
how is your birthday? Was happybelated birthday? So nice, like just
so nice, so sweet. Thatwas awesome to me that he just remembered
it was your birthday. He wasasking you. He took the time to
hang out with us for a whilebefore the show. Just I really believe

(35:44):
that he's one of those artists thattruly is the same person on and off
stage, you know. And youwant to know what else? He's really
good at tell us lyrics, he'sanother switch. Yeah, he's a songwriter
at heart. He really is.More than anything. I think he's a
songwriter, which is just it showsup in his music. He's got this
new song out this week called changeyour Mind Like the Little Guitar. I

(36:17):
don't know the sounds, but youknow what I mean. You know,
it's so cute. So is thisthe one he's been saying is supposed to
be a little bit noacon esque?Yes, inspired by that non sound a
little like I can hear the folkyth the guitar. Yeah, inspiration behind
it for sure. God. Ilove that he covered stick Season at his
show, So good man, It'sso good. The love I have for

(36:42):
this guy, it's just through theroof man, like I was having this
conversation on the way home from thatconcert and there's just no way to have
this not sound weird, right,but like I genuinely want to be his
friend. I know the artists soundcool and be like, oh, they've
a good hang, Like I'd loveto hang with Benson Boon like that was
really great, you know, we'dhang No, I truly feel like knocks

(37:05):
like we would be homies, Likeyeah, yeah, I feel like he's
just like he's part of the crewexactly. I feel like he has fourth
mic on this podcast. Yes inspirit, you know, it's just so
wed because and there's no way tolike guarantee that's gonna happen, you know,
like we'll see him when we seehim, Like that's all great,
but I always a left wanting more. You know. There was a moment
before one of those songs where hewas like, oh, who knows,

(37:27):
maybe I'll play this song one dayat one of your weddings. And I
took that as a personal promise.I said, you shouldn't have said that.
I shouldn't have said that in frontof me. Knox is playing my
wedding now, said nope, likethat's gonna happen. That's absolutely gonna happen.
Oh my god, I love thatman. I know, Okay,
we're gonna move on. I trulyfall in love with like men as a

(37:52):
romance. You know, very oftenit's very unfortunate. Okay. So also,
Hosier came out with the brand newsong today, would You Be Love?
This is one that was supposed tocome out with Wasteland Baby. It

(38:15):
came out on the vinyl, theactual physical vinyl of it, and now
it's one of those ones that nowit's just released on streaming. And I
feel like Hozier another guy that cando no wrong. I feel like he'd
be too smart to hang with though. You know, like when I found
out I was interviewing Hozier last time, he's got Taylor Swift figured out,
so he couldn't hang out with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
got smart. Yeah, And helike didn't even have to draw a diagram.

(38:37):
He was just like, oh yeah, like that's no problem. There's
it's gonna be a double album,thirty one songs. Yeah, exactly what
he did. Yeah. I trulyfelt like when I was gonna interview him,
like I had to study things Iwas just like, I just want
to annoy things before I go inthere. Oh man, love the guy,
Okay. And then my final songtoday is uh, just a song
for the summer, dude, becauseKaig is back and I feel like he's

(38:59):
another guy that can do no wrongoand I hear Kaigo, I think sunshine,
I think water, I think summer, And that's what I think for
this song right here called for Life. You are good Like it's like the

(39:27):
first Saturday in southern California that we'regonna see sun this weekend, and I
just want to hear that song overand over it is what is that sample?
That song? I don't know,baby, why there's a song up
A good point to me, though, because I feel like that's an example
of there's such a difference to mebetween a basic, annoying, poppy DM

(39:52):
song and someone who just like hasa sound that they stick to and it
is pop, but it's just there'sso much depth. I don't know,
not depth, but there's just somethingabout it that doesn't make it corny to
me. And I don't know whatthat is. You know, I like
this kind of d M. JohnKim, Yes, but there's something about
and no disrespect to David Getta.He's a legend. But I'm good and

(40:13):
I'm feeling all right a baby asnone of my line nice. I love
it. I don't know, it'ssuch a throat. I'm glad you love
it though, because that's such athow way song to me, and I
feel like Caygo does it better.But I'm going to take out my ox
and Mikaylae, I know you gottago soon, so I'm gonna throw this
two next hit me. Okay.So this next song is by an artist

(40:35):
that has been popping up on myfeed recently, and she was a Nickelodeon
Victoria Justice that Oh yeah, that'swho that was. Yeah yeah. So
she has a new song out andshe's been slowly kind of releasing music and
doing covers. But she had awhole album out back in the day.
She opened for a big time Rush. But I heard this song and I
was like, Wow, this isa beautiful song. It's called Raw.

(40:59):
Am I good? Raw? It'scalled Raw and it's just basically about you
know, opening up to someone andthey're like, if you're going to accept
me, you have to accept mefor my flaws. Insecurities and everything,
and this is through my awkward,my mercy. This is so nice.

(41:21):
I can't believe that. I can'tbelieve that's Victoria justin me neither. If
you had never told me that thatwas Victoria Justice, I would have never
literally never guessed that. Yeah,I really caught my attention. I this
is one I had on repeat.That's sorry Taylor Vie. I think Taylor's
going to be all right, youknow, I think she'll be good.
Yeah, she'll be okay. Yeah, that's the one that set out to
me this week, besides you know, Knox and all the ones that we've

(41:43):
mentioned. Okay, if you canhandle it over to Marley, plug that
in real quick, hit me helloso here. I'm very excited for this
one. This one is by AlexCole. It's called cry Baby Me Like

(42:13):
so fun. He's been teasing itfor a little while on TikTok. Yeah,
I sent this to you too.You're like, I have it seen?
I literally, I literally I wishI could make this up. I've
had his name like on my Spotifysearch bar for the last like two weeks
because I didn't want to miss itand I wanted to be excited, like
I wanted to know when it wascoming out because I was so excited about
it. Any save songs, No, I don't really either. Sometimes I

(42:36):
do not gonna lie because if it'san artist I don't know, I might
forget their name. Yeah, butif I've seen them on Instagram or something,
I put it on. I likethis honestly. But he has been
kind of as he's been teasing it. He's been calling it like if you
were to put one Direction the nineteenseventy five and five seconds of Summer in
a song, yeah, which arelike three of my top favorite bands of

(42:58):
the past decade. And so Iwas like, great, can't wait,
And truly, like the guitars aregiving like five seconds of Summer the nineteen
seventy five I picked up in likethe near the bridge slash end of the
song. Tell me that doesn't soundlike a nineteen seventy five yeah. So

(43:23):
I didn't pick up like the onedirection sound that he was he was kind
of gearing that towards. But Idid hear like a little bit of a
Knox influence. I was just gonnasay, yeah, I feel like it
sounds if had a festival and youhad to pick artists that had a similar
sound. Correct, he'd be onthat list. Yeah, so I really
liked that one. It was oneof my favorites of this week. So

(43:45):
love it. That's it for you, That's it for me. Yeah all
right, I think that's gonna wrapup our show pretty much. Here sad
news. I'm not gonna I'm notgonna shut up. Listen. I know
I wasn't gonna break the new that'slike the biggest left down of everybody know.
But guess what it was to Itwas more stressful to like figure out
than anything. And Jessica's sisters intown. She's like my sister. She

(44:07):
comes to hang out both of us. It was just I weighed the pros
and cons and I'm still gonna havefomo Because I did want to go order
an outfit. It came yesterday.I have to return it. So okay,
let's just let's get her a seltzer. Someone bring a Seltzer. Let's
get her one seltzer one. She'llchange her mind again. Yes, gym
cheese so excited crying at now.The crew's not going to be together.

(44:34):
I know that, well, Iguess speak of I'm going I'm like actually
going like no, I'm one hundredpercent. By okay, I'm one hundred
percent or michaela undred percent. Thisis all of it, like John going
to a concert on a week ninehundred percent, Seltzer cider, Mikayla sober,
MICHAELA, all of MICHAELA is goingto lalla. Okay, yeah,

(44:54):
yeah, yeah, we're gonna haveto an episode next week. Marley and
I have talked about, well,we were going to do it as a
team, but I guess now it'sjust Marley and I. I'm doing like
a little mini pot at stage coach, like maybe bringing in some yeah,
just like a ten minute of stagecoach. So okay, perfect, Yeah,
let's let's attempt that and see howthat sounds. I think it'll be

(45:14):
great. If not, maybe we'llmeet on Monday as a team. A
little debrief brain dead. I won'tbe here on Monday, so well,
it'll have to be doing See thisis why I was stressful for me.
I told you this, Well,if you say we could all do it
together, baby, it's the saddestyou'll get fun. And on that note,

(45:35):
let's go get some sleep. Ilove you. Why do I keep
doing that?