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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome the One Bad Podcast. Here's your host, Kad and Shaner.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, Katie, So we chatted made in the name.
The biggest thing that came out of this record is
what we went into it to accomplish, which was getting
our first number one hit, Raging Bull. There's a lot
to unpack with that. My favorite memory, maybe, uh is
seeing our faces on the side of a bus in Saskatoon.
(00:31):
Our great friends at Rock one two and Saske Saskatoon
got us on the side of a bus and that
was a first. That was one of my favorite memories.
How about you.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, Well, and the crazy with that is they didn't
tell us right, Like, I mean, I'm always texting with
all those peeps, you know, all our of our longtime
supporters at Rock on to too, and I don't recall
them telling us that was happening. And then I was like,
I was walking, I was on campus doing something, and
all of a sudden like pull in front of like
plast real and I look up, this bus pulls up,
(01:00):
but it's literally our faces on the side of the bus,
and I was like, you know, as one of those moments, yeah,
I'll always remember. And then I think I took a
photo and send it to send it around the horn
to you guys or something. But it's just like, yeah,
it as silly or maybe as simple as it seems.
It's like just seeing your name and your face on
the side of the bus. Like it's more about when
(01:21):
it symbolized for me, right, like, and that goes for
the whole number one itself. It's like, you know what
it symbolizes is like all the all the hard work
and all the sacrifices, right, Like being in a band.
It takes so much sacrifice as you and I know
more than anyone. It's like you're away from the people
you care about, You're you're missing out on all these
(01:42):
other things, but you're doing this thing right, and all
those nights. I remember when the song was to number one.
I remember thinking, I often do this when something really
good happens. I think of all the shitty things that
have happened to get us there, right, And it's a way,
not a way to bring me down. It's a way
to just make me feel so grateful for that amazing thing, right,
and give a perspective. Right inspective creates the gratitude. So
I remember when number one and I was thinking about,
(02:04):
like thinking of those shows that we alluded to a
bit already on the pod, those shows where we drive
fourteen hours to play to seven people, or the show
where they said you guys suck, don't ever come back,
or the show that said can you play can you
cover System of a Down? Or Alan Jackson, and we
knew we were screwed, like all those moments, right, and yeah,
(02:25):
the face on the side of the bus was crazy.
The cool thing which I won't go too long on this,
but like this around that time, we made the Raging
Bowl whiskey, right, and that was like it was kind
of like, you know, we're always trying to think aways
to essentially buy off payoff radio people so they'd play
our songs, you know, like it goes you know, like
(02:48):
in a loving way, in an authentic way, bribe them,
you know, saying, hey, you know, we know you got
singles from Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam and Green Day,
but here's some liquor. Can you consider our song? You know,
I think I think we're quite open about that, right,
you know, it's like can you can you play the song?
Will you at least consider it? And then we had
this idea for the Raging Bull whiskey, which is like
(03:09):
the Jack Daniels with the logo of Raging Bully. So
it costs about forty bucks per per radio visit or
whatever to give each radio jockey a bottle. And you
can explain more of that because you made the label.
So you go into that a bit.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, you know, it was like I remember, because we
often would be like like you just said, you go
into the radio station, you want to hand them a
T shirt or whatever, and you know you're gonna be
giving something out because radio people Gary will tell you this,
They like their freebies.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
They demand them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, and I think it kind of dawned on me
because I'm like, well, instead of printing up a bunch
of shit like we could just get a we could
get whiskey in every town and like put this label
on it. It didn't make a lot of sense like
Raging Bull whiskey, but it was like who gives a shit?
And on it was. The reception was nuts, like the
you know, stations loved it and they were asking for more,
(04:06):
and it's like, you know, I think did that go
into us going number one? Well, Hey, I don't know.
It's like who doesn't like to get a free bottle
of whiskey? And you know, but it was cool because
it was we were like, are we going to get
sued for this? But we didn't, so well, it's ask forgiveness,
not permission sort of situation.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I was, I was prepared to go to court against
Jack giants, but I mean, and the funny thing was, like,
so we created, like you with your magical printer, created
like the sticker that could stick right on a bottle
of Jack, so it looked like the real deal. Oh
wait a second, I'm told I'm being told we have
one here. Oh the for the audio listeners, I'm just
showing Gary still has a I can't believe you still
(04:46):
have This is worth something now. But yeah, so you
made this sticker perfect, so it just went right along
the scene so it looked like it was authentically a
Jack Daniel's Raging Bowl Whiskey Rock is Dead, Long Lived
Rock Well twenty seventeen and like people, everyone's like, how
did you guys get endorsed by Jack Dailes? And of
course it's just the same with the TV's, like how
(05:07):
did you get each TV to say one bad son?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And it's like it's just stickers, you know, it's mirrors. Man,
it's all stickers, folks. It slight of hand, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I didn't know if we I didn't know if we
were gonna like fully exposed. And I'm glad we did
because it was a you know, part of the marketing
campaign was like, well, instead of printing up T shirts
and like doing a whole run specifically for just for
the single, I was like, we get like four hundred
stickers for you know, fifty.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Bucks exactly that the liquor costs really cost us. But
and then I the great thing about it is then
the bottle would sit in the radio station right unless
the unless the DJ took it home, which wouldn't be
very cool. It's meant to be sure with everyone. So
it'd stay there. And every time they'd be thinking what
songs should we add and they look over and here's
the bottle, right so and again this is all the
(05:55):
whiskey means shit if the song is shit, you know.
So you know, I I think the song was just
the whiskey put it over the edge, you know, got
them a little bit tipsy. But I remember, Yeah, So
to go back to the climb to number one, I
remember just because it was such a it was quite
a momentous climb. I remember we got we got sort
of stalled out like number four, which we'd never been
(06:17):
past five. So once we got to four, like amazing,
and they kind of hung there for a while. I
think maybe went to three and we're like okay, but
it was number one and number two. We're just like
massive songs at the time. I think one was like
popa Roach.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I believe, yeah, Papa Roaches big. Their big comeback song
was the one we were up against by the roach
once again, you.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Know, fool full foiled by the roach. Yeah, not the
first time a roach. It really screwed me, you know.
But and then it's like I remember our team was
like I think that's that's it's not gonna go past
three guys, like whatever, and we're in the middle of tour.
So I remember it's like I remember ripping down the
down the highway and and getting no sleep and like
(06:56):
going to yeah, Saint Catherines, Kingston Bear, like just going
all these stations playing shows and also going to the
stations to just get extra spins. And I remember we
woke up somewhere. It was in like thunder Bay or something.
I went to number two and we're like, holy crap,
we got a number two song. You know, once it
goes to two then of course, you know, once it's two,
if it stops the two, then it's essentially a failure
(07:17):
because it's so close to number one and you didn't
get to right. You know, it's silver metal. It's like,
what's the no fear t shirt. It's like the first loser, right,
but second place. But anyways, once it got to two,
then it was like, I remember, it was just like
we're close. We were within sort of striking distance and
this could actually happen. And we drove. We did a
crazy long drive home. It was like one of those
(07:42):
crazy twenty five hour drives something we did just and
I remember we actual I picture it to this day,
like just clear as day. My memory is pretty crappy,
but certain things really stand out. But I woke up,
you know, we're at Julie and I were at living
with her parents at the time because we were broke,
and I woke up to the text. It was like
seven in the more learning a text from Mike at RPM,
(08:03):
who is our radio tracker and it was like seventy
more in the morning, I only got like five hours sleep.
I just bagged woke up and it was just like
all caps, like number one baby, and it was like,
you know again it's Charles don't mean much to me,
but again, to hit a number one, it's all this
shit we had to do to get there, right, And
it's like once you had, once you do that, no
(08:25):
one can ever take that from me, right, Like no
one can take away the fact we got a number one, right.
And we also didn't like it wasn't like a major
label just decided we're gonna get it and put a
bunch of money into it. It was the opposite, right.
It's like we were like the little the little train
that could, you know, and we did. Essentially we were
an indie band who did it on our own, with
a little bit of help from you know, from our label.
(08:47):
But it was just like once you got there, it
just felt like, holy crap, what a what a uphoork feeling,
you know, And mostly I just was felt proud of
the four of us to do it. You know, we
did it together, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, man, that is it And honestly, when I think
about getting that number one, that's what I think of
as well, because you're right, like the charts are, they're whatever.
Like even in those days, you hit number one, you're
not like suddenly you know, all living in mansions and
tour in the world and like it's like it doesn't work.
We knew it wasn't gonna work that way then either,
but it was because we work so hard and because
(09:23):
we were always up against everybody's like eh, you know,
like you said, like I we hit number four and
our team is like, ehh, I think that's it, Like, well,
like were this, but I was like, can we can
somebody like, you know, stay an extra hour after work
to like maybe help us out, you know, or do
an hour worth of work for us when they're in
the office. But anyway, because it was so much of
(09:46):
us pushing it, and it was so much of like
it was like the relationships we built over all of
those years and all of the stuff that we'd done,
it did feel like it wasn't even so much a win,
but it was like, you know, we did it. We
kind of going into that record, we had made that
a goal. Like the two kind of big goals were
and this is what we're going to get into in
(10:07):
the next episode. The big goals were like, let's get
a number one in Canada, and like let's start working
our way into the US, because you know, love this country.
It's the greatest country in the world, but there's not
that many people here. That's why it's hard to build.
It's hard to build a following exclusively in Canada. That's
why Tragically Hip is such an anomaly. Like it's very
(10:27):
difficult to have a massive career really exclusively in Canada.
And we knew we had to get down there. So
those were the two goals, and getting that one was
just like yeah, just like you said, you remember all
those times, remember our first shows in Saskatoon, like going
back to seeing our faces on the bus and like
you know, not getting played, you know, in our hometown.
(10:48):
To now you kind of just felt like we were
on top and we got there ourselves. Like you said,
it wasn't like we got scooped up by a label
that we're just like throwing us stuff and making it
and like we just were. We were up against it
at every step, but we believed in ourselves and it
and it came through, you know, what I mean. So
(11:08):
it was yeah, like on a personal level, it felt
great to finally get like that, like you said something
that people like, they can't take it away from you.
They just can't. You can't say, you know, no matter
what you're like, And it's not all about that, obviously,
it's not all about awards and charting and that. There's
so much more. There's so much more to music than
(11:30):
that kind of bullshit. But it was a target we set,
and you're right, We've always been an indie band. We're
still an indie band, like really, like it's not We're
not the Foo Fighters or even Glorious Suns. Like we
were never the darling band of the day. So everything
was like true rock and roll for us. It was
like digging down in the trenches and everything was like
on our backs, all the work, all the touring. Yeah,
(11:54):
so it it felt good, man, and you know it.
It was a good moment for the four of us,
for me and you and Hicks and any to have
that moment together, you know, because obviously Granny leaves pretty
soon after. We're going to get into this in the
next episode. But it's like, I think the wheels came
off in a little bit, because I think it's almost
(12:15):
like i'd sum it up like this, and you tell
me if you agree. I feel like when you watch
a boxer in a fight, it's like they're giving it,
they're all you know what I mean. And if they're
up against their biggest opponent and they fight their ass
off and they win, then the next fight they just
they you know, they've been beat up so much that
it's almost like you fought so hard to do that
(12:37):
one thing and overcome that thing that it was almost like,
holy shit, like you kind of I felt like we
all sort of took stock in, Like I know, I
felt honestly kind of like spiritually mentally beat up through
the recording process, through all those years of touring, like
it just felt like, I won't say like the wheels
(12:57):
ever really came off in a big way for us.
It just I felt exhausted like I'd never felt before.
And I think, you know, there was a come down
after that big number one.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah. No, the box analogy is great, man, that's spot on.
So let's let's leave it there and let's talk about
that beating up Rocky Balboa in the next episode.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Let's do it and I'm gonna end this episode on
because I got like one more minute going back to
the Raging Bowl whiskey. This is a great moment in
that we've been ripped off a lot of times. You
remember an early tour, we came out to Ontario with
the TVs. Oh yeah, and there was a band opening
for us, and then we saw online after the tour
they bought TVs and put their names on it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, I almost sad a cease and desist, bro, I
was this close to sending it, you.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Know, well inside note the TV they bought was like
this tiny look like it wasn't epic. No, But we
did the Raging Bowl whiskey. And after that a couple
of bands went and did the same thing, but one
one Aurist that I knew of. They actually were like
it was such a great idea, Like I hope you
don't mind. I kind of like took it, and so
(14:06):
I teamed up with this. He paid this person, like
paid like a distillery to like team up and they
did all this stuff and he was quizzing me after
he had done this kind of deal and put all
this work into like making like a vodka, which like
you know, vodka, come on, but you know, and he
(14:26):
asked how we teamed up with Jack Daniels, and I said, dude,
I just printed stickers, like but the look on his face,
his face just dropped him. Like, you know, we put
like a couple hundred bucks into the whole campaign, probably
even with the whiskey. But it was a lesson. It's like,
if you're going to rip somebody off, you know what
I mean, Like you had to do it properly, like
(14:48):
you know. It was just a it was fun to
see more people like try to follow the obs path
to success and watching them fail spectacular.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
They got to make their own path. Man, you got
you can't ride the same path.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, man, Okay, let's do it in the next episode.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Nice Thanks for listening to One Bad Podcast.
Welcome the One Bad Podcast. Here's your host, Kad and Shaner.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, Katie, So we chatted made in the name.
The biggest thing that came out of this record is
what we went into it to accomplish, which was getting
our first number one hit, Raging Bull. There's a lot
to unpack with that. My favorite memory, maybe, uh is
seeing our faces on the side of a bus in Saskatoon.
(00:31):
Our great friends at Rock one two and Saske Saskatoon
got us on the side of a bus and that
was a first. That was one of my favorite memories.
How about you.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, Well, and the crazy with that is they didn't
tell us right, Like, I mean, I'm always texting with
all those peeps, you know, all our of our longtime
supporters at Rock on to too, and I don't recall
them telling us that was happening. And then I was like,
I was walking, I was on campus doing something, and
all of a sudden like pull in front of like
plast real and I look up, this bus pulls up,
(01:00):
but it's literally our faces on the side of the bus,
and I was like, you know, as one of those moments, yeah,
I'll always remember. And then I think I took a
photo and send it to send it around the horn
to you guys or something. But it's just like, yeah,
it as silly or maybe as simple as it seems.
It's like just seeing your name and your face on
the side of the bus. Like it's more about when
(01:21):
it symbolized for me, right, like, and that goes for
the whole number one itself. It's like, you know what
it symbolizes is like all the all the hard work
and all the sacrifices, right, Like being in a band.
It takes so much sacrifice as you and I know
more than anyone. It's like you're away from the people
you care about, You're you're missing out on all these
(01:42):
other things, but you're doing this thing right, and all
those nights. I remember when the song was to number one.
I remember thinking, I often do this when something really
good happens. I think of all the shitty things that
have happened to get us there, right, And it's a way,
not a way to bring me down. It's a way
to just make me feel so grateful for that amazing thing, right,
and give a perspective. Right inspective creates the gratitude. So
I remember when number one and I was thinking about,
(02:04):
like thinking of those shows that we alluded to a
bit already on the pod, those shows where we drive
fourteen hours to play to seven people, or the show
where they said you guys suck, don't ever come back,
or the show that said can you play can you
cover System of a Down? Or Alan Jackson, and we
knew we were screwed, like all those moments, right, and yeah,
(02:25):
the face on the side of the bus was crazy.
The cool thing which I won't go too long on this,
but like this around that time, we made the Raging
Bowl whiskey, right, and that was like it was kind
of like, you know, we're always trying to think aways
to essentially buy off payoff radio people so they'd play
our songs, you know, like it goes you know, like
(02:48):
in a loving way, in an authentic way, bribe them,
you know, saying, hey, you know, we know you got
singles from Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam and Green Day,
but here's some liquor. Can you consider our song? You know,
I think I think we're quite open about that, right,
you know, it's like can you can you play the song?
Will you at least consider it? And then we had
this idea for the Raging Bull whiskey, which is like
(03:09):
the Jack Daniels with the logo of Raging Bully. So
it costs about forty bucks per per radio visit or
whatever to give each radio jockey a bottle. And you
can explain more of that because you made the label.
So you go into that a bit.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, you know, it was like I remember, because we
often would be like like you just said, you go
into the radio station, you want to hand them a
T shirt or whatever, and you know you're gonna be
giving something out because radio people Gary will tell you this,
They like their freebies.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
They demand them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, and I think it kind of dawned on me
because I'm like, well, instead of printing up a bunch
of shit like we could just get a we could
get whiskey in every town and like put this label
on it. It didn't make a lot of sense like
Raging Bull whiskey, but it was like who gives a shit?
And on it was. The reception was nuts, like the
you know, stations loved it and they were asking for more,
(04:06):
and it's like, you know, I think did that go
into us going number one? Well, Hey, I don't know.
It's like who doesn't like to get a free bottle
of whiskey? And you know, but it was cool because
it was we were like, are we going to get
sued for this? But we didn't, so well, it's ask forgiveness,
not permission sort of situation.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I was, I was prepared to go to court against
Jack giants, but I mean, and the funny thing was, like,
so we created, like you with your magical printer, created
like the sticker that could stick right on a bottle
of Jack, so it looked like the real deal. Oh
wait a second, I'm told I'm being told we have
one here. Oh the for the audio listeners, I'm just
showing Gary still has a I can't believe you still
(04:46):
have This is worth something now. But yeah, so you
made this sticker perfect, so it just went right along
the scene so it looked like it was authentically a
Jack Daniel's Raging Bowl Whiskey Rock is Dead, Long Lived
Rock Well twenty seventeen and like people, everyone's like, how
did you guys get endorsed by Jack Dailes? And of
course it's just the same with the TV's, like how
(05:07):
did you get each TV to say one bad son?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And it's like it's just stickers, you know, it's mirrors. Man,
it's all stickers, folks. It slight of hand, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I didn't know if we I didn't know if we
were gonna like fully exposed. And I'm glad we did
because it was a you know, part of the marketing
campaign was like, well, instead of printing up T shirts
and like doing a whole run specifically for just for
the single, I was like, we get like four hundred
stickers for you know, fifty.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Bucks exactly that the liquor costs really cost us. But
and then I the great thing about it is then
the bottle would sit in the radio station right unless
the unless the DJ took it home, which wouldn't be
very cool. It's meant to be sure with everyone. So
it'd stay there. And every time they'd be thinking what
songs should we add and they look over and here's
the bottle, right so and again this is all the
(05:55):
whiskey means shit if the song is shit, you know.
So you know, I I think the song was just
the whiskey put it over the edge, you know, got
them a little bit tipsy. But I remember, Yeah, So
to go back to the climb to number one, I
remember just because it was such a it was quite
a momentous climb. I remember we got we got sort
of stalled out like number four, which we'd never been
(06:17):
past five. So once we got to four, like amazing,
and they kind of hung there for a while. I
think maybe went to three and we're like okay, but
it was number one and number two. We're just like
massive songs at the time. I think one was like
popa Roach.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I believe, yeah, Papa Roaches big. Their big comeback song
was the one we were up against by the roach
once again, you.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Know, fool full foiled by the roach. Yeah, not the
first time a roach. It really screwed me, you know.
But and then it's like I remember our team was
like I think that's that's it's not gonna go past
three guys, like whatever, and we're in the middle of tour.
So I remember it's like I remember ripping down the
down the highway and and getting no sleep and like
(06:56):
going to yeah, Saint Catherines, Kingston Bear, like just going
all these stations playing shows and also going to the
stations to just get extra spins. And I remember we
woke up somewhere. It was in like thunder Bay or something.
I went to number two and we're like, holy crap,
we got a number two song. You know, once it
goes to two then of course, you know, once it's two,
if it stops the two, then it's essentially a failure
(07:17):
because it's so close to number one and you didn't
get to right. You know, it's silver metal. It's like,
what's the no fear t shirt. It's like the first loser, right,
but second place. But anyways, once it got to two,
then it was like, I remember, it was just like
we're close. We were within sort of striking distance and
this could actually happen. And we drove. We did a
crazy long drive home. It was like one of those
(07:42):
crazy twenty five hour drives something we did just and
I remember we actual I picture it to this day,
like just clear as day. My memory is pretty crappy,
but certain things really stand out. But I woke up,
you know, we're at Julie and I were at living
with her parents at the time because we were broke,
and I woke up to the text. It was like
seven in the more learning a text from Mike at RPM,
(08:03):
who is our radio tracker and it was like seventy
more in the morning, I only got like five hours sleep.
I just bagged woke up and it was just like
all caps, like number one baby, and it was like,
you know again it's Charles don't mean much to me,
but again, to hit a number one, it's all this
shit we had to do to get there, right, And
it's like once you had, once you do that, no
(08:25):
one can ever take that from me, right, Like no
one can take away the fact we got a number one, right.
And we also didn't like it wasn't like a major
label just decided we're gonna get it and put a
bunch of money into it. It was the opposite, right.
It's like we were like the little the little train
that could, you know, and we did. Essentially we were
an indie band who did it on our own, with
a little bit of help from you know, from our label.
(08:47):
But it was just like once you got there, it
just felt like, holy crap, what a what a uphoork feeling,
you know, And mostly I just was felt proud of
the four of us to do it. You know, we
did it together, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, man, that is it And honestly, when I think
about getting that number one, that's what I think of
as well, because you're right, like the charts are, they're whatever.
Like even in those days, you hit number one, you're
not like suddenly you know, all living in mansions and
tour in the world and like it's like it doesn't work.
We knew it wasn't gonna work that way then either,
but it was because we work so hard and because
(09:23):
we were always up against everybody's like eh, you know,
like you said, like I we hit number four and
our team is like, ehh, I think that's it, Like, well,
like were this, but I was like, can we can
somebody like, you know, stay an extra hour after work
to like maybe help us out, you know, or do
an hour worth of work for us when they're in
the office. But anyway, because it was so much of
(09:46):
us pushing it, and it was so much of like
it was like the relationships we built over all of
those years and all of the stuff that we'd done,
it did feel like it wasn't even so much a win,
but it was like, you know, we did it. We
kind of going into that record, we had made that
a goal. Like the two kind of big goals were
and this is what we're going to get into in
(10:07):
the next episode. The big goals were like, let's get
a number one in Canada, and like let's start working
our way into the US, because you know, love this country.
It's the greatest country in the world, but there's not
that many people here. That's why it's hard to build.
It's hard to build a following exclusively in Canada. That's
why Tragically Hip is such an anomaly. Like it's very
(10:27):
difficult to have a massive career really exclusively in Canada.
And we knew we had to get down there. So
those were the two goals, and getting that one was
just like yeah, just like you said, you remember all
those times, remember our first shows in Saskatoon, like going
back to seeing our faces on the bus and like
you know, not getting played, you know, in our hometown.
(10:48):
To now you kind of just felt like we were
on top and we got there ourselves. Like you said,
it wasn't like we got scooped up by a label
that we're just like throwing us stuff and making it
and like we just were. We were up against it
at every step, but we believed in ourselves and it
and it came through, you know, what I mean. So
(11:08):
it was yeah, like on a personal level, it felt
great to finally get like that, like you said something
that people like, they can't take it away from you.
They just can't. You can't say, you know, no matter
what you're like, And it's not all about that, obviously,
it's not all about awards and charting and that. There's
so much more. There's so much more to music than
(11:30):
that kind of bullshit. But it was a target we set,
and you're right, We've always been an indie band. We're
still an indie band, like really, like it's not We're
not the Foo Fighters or even Glorious Suns. Like we
were never the darling band of the day. So everything
was like true rock and roll for us. It was
like digging down in the trenches and everything was like
on our backs, all the work, all the touring. Yeah,
(11:54):
so it it felt good, man, and you know it.
It was a good moment for the four of us,
for me and you and Hicks and any to have
that moment together, you know, because obviously Granny leaves pretty
soon after. We're going to get into this in the
next episode. But it's like, I think the wheels came
off in a little bit, because I think it's almost
(12:15):
like i'd sum it up like this, and you tell
me if you agree. I feel like when you watch
a boxer in a fight, it's like they're giving it,
they're all you know what I mean. And if they're
up against their biggest opponent and they fight their ass
off and they win, then the next fight they just
they you know, they've been beat up so much that
it's almost like you fought so hard to do that
(12:37):
one thing and overcome that thing that it was almost like,
holy shit, like you kind of I felt like we
all sort of took stock in, Like I know, I
felt honestly kind of like spiritually mentally beat up through
the recording process, through all those years of touring, like
it just felt like, I won't say like the wheels
(12:57):
ever really came off in a big way for us.
It just I felt exhausted like I'd never felt before.
And I think, you know, there was a come down
after that big number one.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah. No, the box analogy is great, man, that's spot on.
So let's let's leave it there and let's talk about
that beating up Rocky Balboa in the next episode.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Let's do it and I'm gonna end this episode on
because I got like one more minute going back to
the Raging Bowl whiskey. This is a great moment in
that we've been ripped off a lot of times. You
remember an early tour, we came out to Ontario with
the TVs. Oh yeah, and there was a band opening
for us, and then we saw online after the tour
they bought TVs and put their names on it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, I almost sad a cease and desist, bro, I
was this close to sending it, you.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Know, well inside note the TV they bought was like
this tiny look like it wasn't epic. No, But we
did the Raging Bowl whiskey. And after that a couple
of bands went and did the same thing, but one
one Aurist that I knew of. They actually were like
it was such a great idea, Like I hope you
don't mind. I kind of like took it, and so
(14:06):
I teamed up with this. He paid this person, like
paid like a distillery to like team up and they
did all this stuff and he was quizzing me after
he had done this kind of deal and put all
this work into like making like a vodka, which like
you know, vodka, come on, but you know, and he
(14:26):
asked how we teamed up with Jack Daniels, and I said, dude,
I just printed stickers, like but the look on his face,
his face just dropped him. Like, you know, we put
like a couple hundred bucks into the whole campaign, probably
even with the whiskey. But it was a lesson. It's like,
if you're going to rip somebody off, you know what
I mean, Like you had to do it properly, like
(14:48):
you know. It was just a it was fun to
see more people like try to follow the obs path
to success and watching them fail spectacular.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
They got to make their own path. Man, you got
you can't ride the same path.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, man, Okay, let's do it in the next episode.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Nice Thanks for listening to One Bad Podcast.
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