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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome the One Bad Podcast. Here's your host Kadi and Shaner.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
So, Katie, we we got to finally talk about the
big number one raging bowl. Like I kind of alluded
to in the last episode, we hit this high and
it was like race, race, race, you get to that
finish and afterwards it was like, I know, personally, like
exhaustion was was setting in. We had a couple of
weird circumstances because we changed our booking agent because oh
(00:34):
we had a number We had a number one hit
cautionary tale kids. We had a number one hit, bigger
than we'd ever been. Our crowd was awesome, and our
our agent just completely fucked us, booked us the worst
tour we'd ever had, put no time into it. There
was just and you hear this. I'm sure you were
talking about the hip documentary that I have to check out,
(00:58):
but like I know, they have smilar stories of just
like a lot of things happened behind the scenes as
to why, like things didn't get bigger after that. You know,
we had issues with our label, we were having issues
with our booking agent, and just I think general exhaustion,
especially coming through that last recording process, just hit us.
I know, it hit me like a ton of bricks.
(01:20):
How did you feel after that?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah? Yeah, I felt like like you said earlier, just exhausted,
you know, and and just the sense that again we
talked about how we got to bullet got bolt to
the number one, and it felt great because I felt
like we did it, like we we did most of
the heavy lifting. And I give credit to my team,
all our team all the time where it's due, but
liked it felt like we did so much, like we
(01:42):
were doing so much of the heavy lifting, you know.
So to your point, like our agent at the time,
I think he had bragged that he'd booked the entire
tour that coming off of the number one. He booked
it all about twenty minutes or something, he said, right, yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It got leaked back to us when he was drinking
with this guy and he's like, just so you know,
your agent, you know he's doing some shady shit. So
that was nice for us to hear.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well and then and not even shade, yeah, not even shady,
just like not put in the effort in right, like
if if a band hits number one first time, that's
when your team should really take that and just throw
gas on the fire, right and instead they just like
let the fire burn out. But yeah, I felt exhausted.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And we'd been told like yeah, I was gonna say,
we'd been told to that point like this is one
thing that like looking back, you wouldn't you couldn't know
this until this point. But we've been told like, well,
if once you guys go top five, we can do
this for you. Once you get that number one, we
can do this for you. And it was you know,
it wasn't Ego that drove us to get that number one.
It was like we wanted it, but we'd also been
(02:42):
told by a lot of people like if you can
get these milestones, we can really help you out. And
every step of the way it was like okay, like
now it's time for you to do your part. Where
is it? Like I remember, we go number one in
our label rep emailed us like three days later like
hey congrats guys. Yeah exactly, Sometimes like okay, well, where's
all the ship that you were promising and talking about? Right?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well? And this is ugly secret in the music biz
that those on the industry side, like the professionals, uh
just they like to keep the keep the artists you know,
under under their control essentially, right, Like I think it
told you the mushroom analogy. Right, it's like keep streamlike mushrooms,
keeping the dark and feed them ship right like and
(03:24):
and like any any and I see this happened obviously,
you know, on on the lawyer side, it's like if,
like a lot of people industry, if artists question their
agent or their manager or the label, they're sort of
told whoa, whoaoa, where the where the experture? Just go
be an artist and don't get get too big for
your bridges sort of thing, right, And and I hate
seeing that because then you know, obviously where the other
(03:45):
has the lawyer where people just talk, you know, talk
down about the artists or just underestimate their intelligence and
their abilities.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So in terms of the professional side of things, right,
so it was weird dynamic where it's okay, we got
are you ey as our team at number one? What now?
What can you do? And like whoaha, whoa, let's hold
your horses there, you know, like we're just gonna it's
gonna be business as usual and nothing really changed, right,
And that was kind of the frustrating thing. I thought
maybe we'd get a US deal or maybe a US
(04:13):
tour or get US opening for I mean, yeah, like
the Pearl Jams or the Foo Fighters of the World,
which of course nothing like that was gonna happen unfortunately,
but it could have, right if we if we had
the right team. And again not saying we could be,
we could have been or should have been way bigger
or something. It's just that sense of frustration, which tied
with the exhaustion just I think was took us two
(04:37):
almost a breaking point, you know. And then around that
time Granny left, you know, and that was a huge blow,
and it was all we were all supportive of him,
like everyone was like, do your thing, you know, and
it was it was all good. It just it just
sad to lose him, you know. It's like it's been
the four of us for a decade, and he was
just like I think he saw too how much how
(04:59):
exhausting it is, that wasn't going to end anytime soon, right.
So and also the more success you get, the more
you have to leave the people you love, which you know,
all of us found incredibly difficult. So I think he
was like, I'm gonna go become a teacher, and it
was all the power to him, you know, but it
was hard at that point. I was like, I remember
I got the call from Granny and I was like,
(05:19):
oh my god, I never thought of the band without him,
you know, And that's, you know, probably perhaps the best
compliment to anyone. It's like, I never envisioned the band
without him, you know. And and then once he left
and say, okay, now we got the three of us
as sort of the ogs. But yeah, I think it
was like, all of a sudden, we're just on sort
of shaky not shaky ground. But just like you said,
(05:42):
we're the boxer analogy that that was just out of energy.
I think that's a great analogy because that's how I
felt too.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, absolutely, man, And it was kind of like it's
interesting how the timing works and that, you know, I
think he was building up with Granny for a while
because he was getting tired on tour. And we've seen
this with a lot of artist that have, you know,
quit touring, whether or not they fully quit music or not.
It's kind of like once you actually get out and
do it for real, like we've done it, you realize
(06:09):
whether or not that life is for you, right, because
you could still love to write. And I remember talking
to Granny about this when he left, and just you know,
we all had great chats with him. We love love
him to this day, right, And like you said, no,
Ill Will, you can't force somebody to do something that
they've they've just lost it, you know. But it is
a thing where you realize after touring that much and
(06:32):
that much work, the amount of work that goes in
the studio and like no one's throwing cash at you
while you're doing it. Either you either love it and
that's going to be your thing, or you just realize, yeah,
it's not really my thing anymore, you know. And that
I think that hit him, and you're right, it was.
(06:53):
It was odd because you just kind of feel like
we use this analogy so often of almost like being
in the submarine. It was like against the world always,
you know, the four of us, and so you're right,
like all of that coming down Granny leaving, it just
felt like not totally like the wind was out of
(07:13):
our sales because we were talking about, you know, in
the last episode, I had said we had two goals,
get a number one, go on tour in the US.
So we we went and did a really shitty like
four shows in the US. I think we may have
touched on this in a previous episode. You know, our
agents like a you know, like I can get your
shows down there, but you know, and we just thought, well,
(07:35):
we got to start somewhere, and you know, it was
it was back to It was like, man, it felt
like back to square one. We played four shows. We
were in like somewhere in Michigan and we you know, Ohio, Ohio,
and it was like we literally started a show with
no one in the bar, you know, and it just
like the experiences were just kind of it was like
(07:57):
such a what do we do kind of time, Like
we're sitting on a number one, but we're like the
wheels feel like they're kind of coming off. But then
I don't remember exactly how the Sebastian Block tour came up,
and we're going to talk about that next episode. This
whole podcast comes full circle because that's where we are
right now. But I just, you know, we're like, do
(08:19):
we do another record? I mean do we We weren't
sure if we wanted to stay with the label. You know. Yeah,
So the timing once again gets a little squirrely, especially
in this era because I realized we'll get to this,
but after the Sebastian Block tour, it finally hit me
how exhausted I truly was, Like, so, I think that
(08:39):
a lot of this was just like, you know, just
running on fumes at this point and trying to figure
out what to do.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So you know, yeah, you're right and like and to
that point, to the exhaustion point, I mean, we've kind
of blasted through the last how many episodes and from
from the Red album to now, but just to step
back for a second, you're right, Like for the listener
was like that period of time from the Red album
or I guess when Scarecrows first hit, which is a
(09:05):
big defining moment for us to Red Sorry to Raging
Bolting number one, like that era, I'd say, that's the uh, well,
the busy time, the golden era of obsked to some extent, right,
golden also means crazy fucking busy, But like from that
time from Scarecrows to Raging bull like, we didn't stop
(09:25):
at all, not for a minute, I remember, and like
it's always I remember, is always tough, and because by
that point I had leave on so I was a
dad towards the end and just planning little things like
when your son's gonna be born was really fucking tough.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It's like, well, what if we got what if we
got a tour offer, like I think, no, I got
to be there, or like or just planning anything. And
you can relate with this too, like any of us
just trying to plan anything in your life. It's really
it was really hard in those years, right, even like hey,
I want to go to the lake this weekend, or
hey I'm gonna go my girl and I want to
go camping. It's like, well, no, no, no, Like you
have to keep everything open at all times because you
(10:02):
might have something come in. Right, even in the summer,
it's like every weekend you got to keep open for
a festival, and then in the fahlah blah blah Christmas. Okay,
you got a bit of time off for Christmas, maybe
like five days, but we're going right back at it after.
It was always just like I think for your average
listener doesn't would never have to understand that, right because
you can just if you say I want to book
a week long vacation in Mexico, I just clear it
(10:24):
with work and then I just do it. You don't
have to answer to sort of something else, and that's
that's what being in a band is about. And I
think that for Obs, especially in those years, it was
just like that cycle was just nonstopping. And thankfully, again
we talked about earlier, none of us got into like
sort of the vicious cycle of like drugs and alcohol.
(10:45):
But you see why a lot of musicians do, because
it's just NonStop, from touring to the studio, back to
touring back to the studio, and you're just you're, you're
it's just a grind, right, and there's no there's no
off button, and yeah, anyway, so I like, I want
to just bring it. Like from Scarecrows to Bull it
was just like it was sort of like this this haze,
(11:06):
you know. And now when we look back at it,
we're like, it's hard for you and I had to
figure out what happened when because it was all just
one It's one year in some ways, right, and all
of a sudden we pull our heads back and it's
and where it feels like we've aged a decade, but
it's only been what is that four years or something.
It's just a crazy time totally.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah. And it's funny because you're right, you don't. When
you're in it, you really do feel like you're in
a submarine go. You know, you're just like you're you're
in there. You're just like you're going. There's nothing out
outside of the band or like the next two or
the next song, the next single, the next you know,
just non stop, and you're right like, there's there's absolutely
When you look back on it, you're like, well, of
(11:47):
course I was an absolute wreck after that, you know.
And you know, I remember having to cancel the first
show I've ever canceled, So I got super sick in
Ontario again't it. Yeah? And I think like that stuff
had never happened before, you know, and I think these
things were starting to happen that were just like man,
your mind, your body, everything is wearing down, wearing o wout.
(12:09):
And you know, it's not up to fans to really
give a shit about why their favorite bands take hiatuses,
but you always hear that from people like, oh, I
can't how come these guys haven't toured in so long.
It's like, well, they might need a break.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well that's a great and that's a good point that's
like I often think of this, and maybe I don't
know if your average listener does, but it's like anytime
I see a band coming through town or they announce
a tour, their tour dates, right, I always look at
just to see how crazy the traveling is, right, because like,
if you're the Foo Fighters, it's not that hard, right.
Everyone's got their own bus, they got their own jets,
I mean, or at least they're they're flying first class.
(12:44):
They get their own massage therapists, their own cooks. Like,
it's not fucking hard if you're at that level. I mean,
even if you're on a bus, it gets a lot easier.
But we never got to that level. So it's like
all those crazy drives just burning the cattle both ends.
I think that it took its toll on us, and
of course it would's it was only like a span
(13:06):
of four years, and I felt like we crammed in
a decade into those four years, and that took us
to I think the end of this episode. But like
OBS was effing exhausted and a lot of bands could
have broken I think a lot of bands would have
broken up, to be honest, and I'm grateful we didn't,
so we're still yeah likewise.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Man, yeah, absolutely, I'm grateful as well. And I think,
like we touched on this before, but like we it's
hard to know what to do at the time, Like
we could have gotten buses, like we'd seen bands, you know,
spend go into the hole to do a tour. Like
we could have said like, fuck it, we're not doing
these drives anymore. But we also were like part of
(13:47):
this was to make some cash off it after this
much time that you wanted to come home after a
tour and have some everybody get a bit of money
in the bank and make it worthwhile financially too. So
we were up against those decisions and so you know,
you kind of we to our detriment at that point.
We were like, well, we can handle it, you know,
like our longest drive was seventy hours straight in the
(14:09):
winter with no heat.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well, and you're right, but make you a great point
and we'll wrap it here. But like we had to
pay the bills, right, this is the not sexy part
of a band documentary. It's like we could have taken
buses and lost money, but all of us had to
pay the bills. Right, We're all living either Vancouver, Calgary,
Sasoon whatever. You gotta still buy groceries, pay rent and whatever,
(14:33):
right like, and we just yeah, again, it's easy if
you're if you're a big headlining arena sort of ban
but we weren't, right and I think a lot of
people probably thought we were like this rich band, which
is not the case. But anyways, yeah, I think it's like, yeah,
we were exhausted and broke and ready for a change.
That change would come. We'll get to that next episode.
(14:57):
I think it's a good place to wrap.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
What do you think I think we wrap it here
be because we are about to take on the US
from top to bottom, east to west. So let's get
into the Sebastian Bock Tour next.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Buddy, great, Thanks thanks for listening to One Bad Podcast.
Welcome the One Bad Podcast. Here's your host Kadi and Shaner.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
So, Katie, we we got to finally talk about the
big number one raging bowl. Like I kind of alluded
to in the last episode, we hit this high and
it was like race, race, race, you get to that
finish and afterwards it was like, I know, personally, like
exhaustion was was setting in. We had a couple of
weird circumstances because we changed our booking agent because oh
(00:34):
we had a number We had a number one hit
cautionary tale kids. We had a number one hit, bigger
than we'd ever been. Our crowd was awesome, and our
our agent just completely fucked us, booked us the worst
tour we'd ever had, put no time into it. There
was just and you hear this. I'm sure you were
talking about the hip documentary that I have to check out,
(00:58):
but like I know, they have smilar stories of just
like a lot of things happened behind the scenes as
to why, like things didn't get bigger after that. You know,
we had issues with our label, we were having issues
with our booking agent, and just I think general exhaustion,
especially coming through that last recording process, just hit us.
I know, it hit me like a ton of bricks.
(01:20):
How did you feel after that?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah? Yeah, I felt like like you said earlier, just exhausted,
you know, and and just the sense that again we
talked about how we got to bullet got bolt to
the number one, and it felt great because I felt
like we did it, like we we did most of
the heavy lifting. And I give credit to my team,
all our team all the time where it's due, but
liked it felt like we did so much, like we
(01:42):
were doing so much of the heavy lifting, you know.
So to your point, like our agent at the time,
I think he had bragged that he'd booked the entire
tour that coming off of the number one. He booked
it all about twenty minutes or something, he said, right, yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It got leaked back to us when he was drinking
with this guy and he's like, just so you know,
your agent, you know he's doing some shady shit. So
that was nice for us to hear.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well and then and not even shade, yeah, not even shady,
just like not put in the effort in right, like
if if a band hits number one first time, that's
when your team should really take that and just throw
gas on the fire, right and instead they just like
let the fire burn out. But yeah, I felt exhausted.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And we'd been told like yeah, I was gonna say,
we'd been told to that point like this is one
thing that like looking back, you wouldn't you couldn't know
this until this point. But we've been told like, well,
if once you guys go top five, we can do
this for you. Once you get that number one, we
can do this for you. And it was you know,
it wasn't Ego that drove us to get that number one.
It was like we wanted it, but we'd also been
(02:42):
told by a lot of people like if you can
get these milestones, we can really help you out. And
every step of the way it was like okay, like
now it's time for you to do your part. Where
is it? Like I remember, we go number one in
our label rep emailed us like three days later like
hey congrats guys. Yeah exactly, Sometimes like okay, well, where's
all the ship that you were promising and talking about? Right?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well? And this is ugly secret in the music biz
that those on the industry side, like the professionals, uh
just they like to keep the keep the artists you know,
under under their control essentially, right, Like I think it
told you the mushroom analogy. Right, it's like keep streamlike mushrooms,
keeping the dark and feed them ship right like and
(03:24):
and like any any and I see this happened obviously,
you know, on on the lawyer side, it's like if,
like a lot of people industry, if artists question their
agent or their manager or the label, they're sort of
told whoa, whoaoa, where the where the experture? Just go
be an artist and don't get get too big for
your bridges sort of thing, right, And and I hate
seeing that because then you know, obviously where the other
(03:45):
has the lawyer where people just talk, you know, talk
down about the artists or just underestimate their intelligence and
their abilities.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So in terms of the professional side of things, right,
so it was weird dynamic where it's okay, we got
are you ey as our team at number one? What now?
What can you do? And like whoaha, whoa, let's hold
your horses there, you know, like we're just gonna it's
gonna be business as usual and nothing really changed, right,
And that was kind of the frustrating thing. I thought
maybe we'd get a US deal or maybe a US
(04:13):
tour or get US opening for I mean, yeah, like
the Pearl Jams or the Foo Fighters of the World,
which of course nothing like that was gonna happen unfortunately,
but it could have, right if we if we had
the right team. And again not saying we could be,
we could have been or should have been way bigger
or something. It's just that sense of frustration, which tied
with the exhaustion just I think was took us two
(04:37):
almost a breaking point, you know. And then around that
time Granny left, you know, and that was a huge blow,
and it was all we were all supportive of him,
like everyone was like, do your thing, you know, and
it was it was all good. It just it just
sad to lose him, you know. It's like it's been
the four of us for a decade, and he was
just like I think he saw too how much how
(04:59):
exhausting it is, that wasn't going to end anytime soon, right.
So and also the more success you get, the more
you have to leave the people you love, which you know,
all of us found incredibly difficult. So I think he
was like, I'm gonna go become a teacher, and it
was all the power to him, you know, but it
was hard at that point. I was like, I remember
I got the call from Granny and I was like,
(05:19):
oh my god, I never thought of the band without him,
you know, And that's, you know, probably perhaps the best
compliment to anyone. It's like, I never envisioned the band
without him, you know. And and then once he left
and say, okay, now we got the three of us
as sort of the ogs. But yeah, I think it
was like, all of a sudden, we're just on sort
of shaky not shaky ground. But just like you said,
(05:42):
we're the boxer analogy that that was just out of energy.
I think that's a great analogy because that's how I
felt too.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, absolutely, man, And it was kind of like it's
interesting how the timing works and that, you know, I
think he was building up with Granny for a while
because he was getting tired on tour. And we've seen
this with a lot of artist that have, you know,
quit touring, whether or not they fully quit music or not.
It's kind of like once you actually get out and
do it for real, like we've done it, you realize
(06:09):
whether or not that life is for you, right, because
you could still love to write. And I remember talking
to Granny about this when he left, and just you know,
we all had great chats with him. We love love
him to this day, right, And like you said, no,
Ill Will, you can't force somebody to do something that
they've they've just lost it, you know. But it is
a thing where you realize after touring that much and
(06:32):
that much work, the amount of work that goes in
the studio and like no one's throwing cash at you
while you're doing it. Either you either love it and
that's going to be your thing, or you just realize, yeah,
it's not really my thing anymore, you know. And that
I think that hit him, and you're right, it was.
(06:53):
It was odd because you just kind of feel like
we use this analogy so often of almost like being
in the submarine. It was like against the world always,
you know, the four of us, and so you're right,
like all of that coming down Granny leaving, it just
felt like not totally like the wind was out of
(07:13):
our sales because we were talking about, you know, in
the last episode, I had said we had two goals,
get a number one, go on tour in the US.
So we we went and did a really shitty like
four shows in the US. I think we may have
touched on this in a previous episode. You know, our
agents like a you know, like I can get your
shows down there, but you know, and we just thought, well,
(07:35):
we got to start somewhere, and you know, it was
it was back to It was like, man, it felt
like back to square one. We played four shows. We
were in like somewhere in Michigan and we you know, Ohio, Ohio,
and it was like we literally started a show with
no one in the bar, you know, and it just
like the experiences were just kind of it was like
(07:57):
such a what do we do kind of time, Like
we're sitting on a number one, but we're like the
wheels feel like they're kind of coming off. But then
I don't remember exactly how the Sebastian Block tour came up,
and we're going to talk about that next episode. This
whole podcast comes full circle because that's where we are
right now. But I just, you know, we're like, do
(08:19):
we do another record? I mean do we We weren't
sure if we wanted to stay with the label. You know. Yeah,
So the timing once again gets a little squirrely, especially
in this era because I realized we'll get to this,
but after the Sebastian Block tour, it finally hit me
how exhausted I truly was, Like, so, I think that
(08:39):
a lot of this was just like, you know, just
running on fumes at this point and trying to figure
out what to do.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So you know, yeah, you're right and like and to
that point, to the exhaustion point, I mean, we've kind
of blasted through the last how many episodes and from
from the Red album to now, but just to step
back for a second, you're right, Like for the listener
was like that period of time from the Red album
or I guess when Scarecrows first hit, which is a
(09:05):
big defining moment for us to Red Sorry to Raging
Bolting number one, like that era, I'd say, that's the uh, well,
the busy time, the golden era of obsked to some extent, right,
golden also means crazy fucking busy, But like from that
time from Scarecrows to Raging bull like, we didn't stop
(09:25):
at all, not for a minute, I remember, and like
it's always I remember, is always tough, and because by
that point I had leave on so I was a
dad towards the end and just planning little things like
when your son's gonna be born was really fucking tough.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It's like, well, what if we got what if we
got a tour offer, like I think, no, I got
to be there, or like or just planning anything. And
you can relate with this too, like any of us
just trying to plan anything in your life. It's really
it was really hard in those years, right, even like hey,
I want to go to the lake this weekend, or
hey I'm gonna go my girl and I want to
go camping. It's like, well, no, no, no, Like you
have to keep everything open at all times because you
(10:02):
might have something come in. Right, even in the summer,
it's like every weekend you got to keep open for
a festival, and then in the fahlah blah blah Christmas. Okay,
you got a bit of time off for Christmas, maybe
like five days, but we're going right back at it after.
It was always just like I think for your average
listener doesn't would never have to understand that, right because
you can just if you say I want to book
a week long vacation in Mexico, I just clear it
(10:24):
with work and then I just do it. You don't
have to answer to sort of something else, and that's
that's what being in a band is about. And I
think that for Obs, especially in those years, it was
just like that cycle was just nonstopping. And thankfully, again
we talked about earlier, none of us got into like
sort of the vicious cycle of like drugs and alcohol.
(10:45):
But you see why a lot of musicians do, because
it's just NonStop, from touring to the studio, back to
touring back to the studio, and you're just you're, you're
it's just a grind, right, and there's no there's no
off button, and yeah, anyway, so I like, I want
to just bring it. Like from Scarecrows to Bull it
was just like it was sort of like this this haze,
(11:06):
you know. And now when we look back at it,
we're like, it's hard for you and I had to
figure out what happened when because it was all just
one It's one year in some ways, right, and all
of a sudden we pull our heads back and it's
and where it feels like we've aged a decade, but
it's only been what is that four years or something.
It's just a crazy time totally.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah. And it's funny because you're right, you don't. When
you're in it, you really do feel like you're in
a submarine go. You know, you're just like you're you're
in there. You're just like you're going. There's nothing out
outside of the band or like the next two or
the next song, the next single, the next you know,
just non stop, and you're right like, there's there's absolutely
When you look back on it, you're like, well, of
(11:47):
course I was an absolute wreck after that, you know.
And you know, I remember having to cancel the first
show I've ever canceled, So I got super sick in
Ontario again't it. Yeah? And I think like that stuff
had never happened before, you know, and I think these
things were starting to happen that were just like man,
your mind, your body, everything is wearing down, wearing o wout.
(12:09):
And you know, it's not up to fans to really
give a shit about why their favorite bands take hiatuses,
but you always hear that from people like, oh, I
can't how come these guys haven't toured in so long.
It's like, well, they might need a break.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well that's a great and that's a good point that's
like I often think of this, and maybe I don't
know if your average listener does, but it's like anytime
I see a band coming through town or they announce
a tour, their tour dates, right, I always look at
just to see how crazy the traveling is, right, because like,
if you're the Foo Fighters, it's not that hard, right.
Everyone's got their own bus, they got their own jets,
I mean, or at least they're they're flying first class.
(12:44):
They get their own massage therapists, their own cooks. Like,
it's not fucking hard if you're at that level. I mean,
even if you're on a bus, it gets a lot easier.
But we never got to that level. So it's like
all those crazy drives just burning the cattle both ends.
I think that it took its toll on us, and
of course it would's it was only like a span
(13:06):
of four years, and I felt like we crammed in
a decade into those four years, and that took us
to I think the end of this episode. But like
OBS was effing exhausted and a lot of bands could
have broken I think a lot of bands would have
broken up, to be honest, and I'm grateful we didn't,
so we're still yeah likewise.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Man, yeah, absolutely, I'm grateful as well. And I think,
like we touched on this before, but like we it's
hard to know what to do at the time, Like
we could have gotten buses, like we'd seen bands, you know,
spend go into the hole to do a tour. Like
we could have said like, fuck it, we're not doing
these drives anymore. But we also were like part of
(13:47):
this was to make some cash off it after this
much time that you wanted to come home after a
tour and have some everybody get a bit of money
in the bank and make it worthwhile financially too. So
we were up against those decisions and so you know,
you kind of we to our detriment at that point.
We were like, well, we can handle it, you know,
like our longest drive was seventy hours straight in the
(14:09):
winter with no heat.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well, and you're right, but make you a great point
and we'll wrap it here. But like we had to
pay the bills, right, this is the not sexy part
of a band documentary. It's like we could have taken
buses and lost money, but all of us had to
pay the bills. Right, We're all living either Vancouver, Calgary,
Sasoon whatever. You gotta still buy groceries, pay rent and whatever,
(14:33):
right like, and we just yeah, again, it's easy if
you're if you're a big headlining arena sort of ban
but we weren't, right and I think a lot of
people probably thought we were like this rich band, which
is not the case. But anyways, yeah, I think it's like, yeah,
we were exhausted and broke and ready for a change.
That change would come. We'll get to that next episode.
(14:57):
I think it's a good place to wrap.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
What do you think I think we wrap it here
be because we are about to take on the US
from top to bottom, east to west. So let's get
into the Sebastian Bock Tour next.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Buddy, great, Thanks thanks for listening to One Bad Podcast.
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