November 2, 2024 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome the One Bad Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Here's your host KD and Shaner.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
All right, Katie, Well we're coming full circle here. So
we started the whole podcast off talking about the Sebastian
Block Tour, which was the big US tour that we've
now talked about a few episodes here. How you know,
the things we really wanted coming out of Made in
the Name were like, we wanted that number one hit,
That's what we were gunning for.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And the other thing we wanted.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Was a US tour because it's it just it was
so difficult for us to break down there. And then yeah,
we get this Sebastian Block tour. So yes, this is
the full circle moment. So there's everything that we talked
about up to this in so many ways culminated in
that number one and you know, as big as things
got arena tours and stuff that followed, but this was
(00:55):
a really major tour in a few different ways because
it was massive. I mean, we'll get into the logistics
of the thing alone, but yeah, so do.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You remember how we got how we got this tour?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I feel like I remember it was a last minute thing,
or do you remember how that went down?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah? So I remember we got I got a call
from because I think that was we were with We
were with Felban at that point, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, we were with a new agent. Yeah,
so the agent who gave a shit about booking US shows.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Right, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I just got the call
being like, you guys want to tour the US, and yeah,
to your point, I mean, it's like we always thought.
I mean, so many Canadian bands never break in the US.
I mean we know it so well, and you know
the tracks hip. I just watched that documentary again. It's like,
you wonder how such a like so many bands don't
actually break in the US, and then some become way
(01:47):
bigger than the US than they are in Canada. It's like,
how does that work? We just knew. I think we
all thought, being self aware, that Obs had a sound
that could work in the US. You know, we weren't
like a Canadiana sort of sounding band. We had a
big sort of arena rock sound. So let's let's give
it a go in the US. Right, And but it
was so not easy to get any to make any
(02:09):
headway down there, right, Like we didn't have our label,
was definitely didn't have a lot of pull in the US.
Our agents are so agents in general used to they're
used to booking you in Canada, right, so it's like
they don't like our agency doesn't even have like they'd
have to team up with someone else in America to
make it work. So long story short, it's like we
got we finally got this opportunity and we knew we
(02:31):
had to do it right, and so yeah, we got
the call and it was like, let's do this, and
it was like, what forty dates or something like that,
like it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Was, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It was.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I think it was close to at least, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Like two months. We were going two months, like forty
dates and two months. And I think like an important
thing for the listeners to realize. And I think a
lot of bands would know this, but but maybe not.
Is that like when you're when you're touring crazy uh
crazy routing with low big drives, it's not that difficult
if you're in a bus, right because you can and
we talked about this a little bit, but if you're
(03:06):
going like an eight hour drive in a bus, that's easy.
You drive overnight, your driver, your bus driver drives over
night while you sleep and you wake up. You know
you're you're in the next city, right, you get up
and do your thing. But for us, we never got
to that level, or if we did, it would have
just cost too much to have a bus. And as
an opener, I mean I think we got what four
or five hundred bucks a night.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I think on that probably something like that, ye yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Which doesn't cover even hotels and food and gas. Right,
so we're losing money every every show, so we definitely
can't do a bus right, just wasn't feasible. So that routing,
I mean, I remember we saw the routing where like,
holy crap, like you and I shared the excitement. We
also saw these crazy drives day books because again Back
and his team they just want to get as many
(03:48):
shows in as possible, especially while they have a bus rented, right,
so they want to cram it as many shows as possible.
And for the opener who's driving in a van and
trailer every night, it was just like it was crazy.
So yeah, go, I mean feel free to elaborate. I met,
like I remember thinking this is gonna break us, but
we're gonna do it, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I mean, that's the right way to sum it up
because it was like it was crazy long, like you said,
as far as dates, but also yeah, we the routing,
like we started in Denver, that was the first show.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I went Denver. We worked our way down.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
To Texas, We worked our way up to Maine and
then back down through New York and then back down
to Florida. Uh and ended the tour in Florida, and
then you know, came back to Canada. So it was
like when you I like what you said because it's
so true when you you get the initial burst of
excitement like oh man, here we go, like we finally
get it, and it's like obviously a bunch of places
(04:47):
we never played before. But then you start looking at
that routing and you think, oh shit, it's gonna be
it's gonna be full on.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And yeah, man, it was full on.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And I will say the one thing about touring the
US unlike Canada is that the drives aren't quite as
crazy in between, Like we didn't have those same kind
of like you know, you're not playing Calgary one night
in Winnipeg the next night, which we had a million times,
like there's but there you know you're maybe driving.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I think our longest drive between shows.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
We might have had a couple longer ones, but you know,
we were maxing out at like five hours at least
between shows, so it wasn't like quite the same kind
of like fifteen to twenty hour drive which we'd had,
Like I said, so that was kind of nice about
the US because those big cities are so much closer
to each other. But yeah, it was, man, this it
(05:39):
was a wild ride. That tour felt like it was like,
you're right, it was two months, but man, it felt
like it was six months by the time we got
back with everything that was going on, you know, And
I don't want to say, like I know, people die
for tour stories and you don't want to go to
inside Baseball, but like I was happy that, you know,
back was he was good to but like, you know,
(06:01):
he lived up to the eighties rock star kind of legend.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I will say, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, I think we should. You're right, And again, yeah, we're
not gonna disclose too many behind the scenes details about
him because this is I'll leave that to him. But
you got to tell the story of you know, we
thought like for a lot of these opening acts, opening
tours we did, we got to know the headliners, right,
like the Deaf Leopard guys were all our buddies by
(06:26):
the end. The Shine Down guys all our buddies by
the end. Hell, I mean we played two shows with
Judas Priest and Halford came back and hung out with us, right,
And he came to our dressing room and was like
the most humble kind guy. So generally speaking, like you
open for a band, you know, they often come and
try to meet you, but you need to tell the story.
(06:47):
Because we did forty dates with Back, and on the
final night, remember in Florida, Well you tell the story
because well I'll all set up a little bit. So
Shane obviously to the listeners, very tell ounted artist, and
so he did this super amazing drawing. I think it
was an incredible hulk for for Boch's son because his
(07:11):
son was like four years old or something and he
was kind of on tour.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
For yeah it was pretty little.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, So you spent like hours making this incredible hulk
for his son and super thoughtful move and you go
and hand it to Back on the final night of
the tour and what does he say.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
To you, Well, well, you're you're almost right. So I
did it mid tour because we went on his bus once. Remember,
like we went up and they had us hang out
and stuff like that. And because this is very important
because we were hanging out and then we thought well, like, oh,
we'll probably do this a few times during the tour,
right hung out back there and there's like, yeah, Shenanigan's
(07:50):
going on on the bus. But we all chatted and
hung out and stuff, and that's where we found out,
like he said, as his kid liked incredible hulks. So yes,
I drew that because you know, I know, I thought
it was a nice kind of thing to do. Anyways,
I'd given it to somebody to give to him mid.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Tour and then yeah, so I give it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So he had it and it came from the singer
of Obs, is how they gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And because we'd met and chatted like.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
The you know, the four of us in him and
you you were wearing some sort of hat, like some
sort of memorable hat, as through the history of Obs,
Katie has had a lot of memorable hats.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, it is the black top hat that I wore
kind of like a John Bonham, you know, tip of
the hat literally, you know, I work for that whole tour. Yeah,
it's like after a show your hairs on mess he
put on the top hat, so yeah, the black top hat.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah. Well, and so.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Trying to break this story down, there was a bit
of there was a bit of shenanigans with us and
the other opener who there was just there was a
bit of a dispute because we were supposed to we
we were the first opener for half the tour, then
we were the direct opener for the next half of
the tour, and one of the people in that band
did not like that, and it was a whole kind
of thing. Yeah, there was a lot of drama, and
(09:14):
so an incident happened part way through our when we
were the direct opener. That was it was my it
was my fault. I blame I blame Hicks for booking
us into a really cold, out of season Airbnb and
then we all got a cold and I was on
(09:34):
some like very heavy over the counter prescription drugs. Anyway,
Shenanigan's happened on stage. We almost got booted off the tour.
So but it was actually just a play to get
us to go back to the first opener. So that
was like the thing. So anyway, we went back to that,
(09:54):
and so Bach knew that the singer of Obs was
the guy that had the Shenanigans at this show, and
he knew the singer drew this picture. Anyway, last show
of the tour. Now we've come again full circle on this.
I was coming after our set. I was coming backstage,
(10:15):
and I happened to run into Block because as you know,
he was never there like until like what fell like
minutes before he went on stage, and I just happened
to see him, and I was like, ah, fuck it,
it's the last day of the tour.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I know he doesn't like to get bugged really, but
I was like.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Hey, you know, like I we all went in and
said hey to the band and like thanks for having
us on the tour, and as you do for bands
out there, it's always nice to be grateful as an opener.
So I stopped him and I was like, hey, I
was like, thank you so much, man for having us
out and you know, sorry for any of the shit
that kind of went. And he's like, oh no, He's like,
(10:48):
oh man, that's all good. Man, Like yeah, and I'm
like and I'm glad that you were or I hope
that your your son, like the incredible Hulk that I
drew for him. And he's like, he's like, yeah, you're
you're seeing Drew that for me, man, And I said,
I was like, well that's me.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I said, I'm I'm the singer. He's like, no, no,
you're singer, the guy in the hat.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And he pointed over at me.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, what's over at KD.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And I was like, no, that's that's uh, that's Kurt,
that's the drummer. I said, I'm the singer. He's like
he just looked at his whole band and was like
what the fuck man in like a very eighties like
telling his body and then just he just looked bewildered.
I don't think he remembered who we were or you know,
knew anything that was going on. And then he then
(11:37):
he said you're welcome and walked off.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Like I mean, I I just get such a kick
out of that. You trying to convince him that you're
the singer, you know, and it's like it's.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Like no, no, not you the guy, not you, the
guy in the hat, the singer, Like yeah, it was.
It really summed up what that tour kind of was
which was like, uh, kind of what it should be.
I suppose when you're opening for someone like Bach, like
it had a there was a bit of that eighties
kind of craziness going on with a lot of it, which, like,
(12:08):
I don't know felt right to me.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't know how you felt about it.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I mean like that's being generous to him, which
I like that you're being generous, and you know it's
so much like I love you know, I love Bach.
But I think I had higher expectations, right, I thought, like,
so after forty shows he never even saw us play once, right,
because he did, he would know that I'm the fucking
drummer and you're the fucking singer. You know, so he
(12:32):
didn't like a forty forty shows, he couldn't even pop
his head in for like literally a song. Right, Maybe
I just build things up in my mind, but I
thought I thought he'd be like because I think, you know,
obviously with your vocal style like and our band sound like,
I thought he would dig obs, right, But he didn't
give us a chance. He was you know so whatever.
(12:53):
I mean, Yeah, it's always like and I'm gonna just
quickly tell the why we got we lost that the
main opening stall is because some guy was just in
front of our front row because he got front row
to save that spot for back right. So he said,
sat in the front row with his arms crossed and
then staring at his phone, and he's right in front
of you. And sure you can say the meds. I
(13:16):
think you were on some meds. But I also loved it,
and I support you to this day that you called
him out on and said, if you're me in the
front row, get off your fucking phone, you know. And
I was like yeah, I was like, yeah, I was
gonna throw a stick at him, but then I could
get charged, you know. But you know, he called him out.
And then this guy just happened to be a box
super fan who paid for the in bock would charge
you a hundred bucks to come onto his bus to
(13:37):
meet him, which again I'm not I'm disclosing all the
all the details here. Listeners, rock rock rock Star one
on one hundred bucks. You asked if you want to
come onto the bus. And so this guy happened to
have paid that, and only like five ten people pay
that at night, but so he's hardcore. Uh So he
goes onto the bus and says, hey, that the guy
in the opening band gave me ship for being on
(13:58):
my phone. And then Box like what And then someone
someone told back that you that your voice is kind
of similar to his or something like that, and so
Box like is he trying to make fun of me
or something?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And we're like, oh, that dude, you remember more of
this than I do. I obviously like those men's were
fairly powerful.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Exactly, but it's just like the the the the idea
that somehow we're trying to like imitate him song wise
or something. It's just ludicrous, right, But and again I think,
you know, to be fair, I think Box, you know,
was a little his mind was a bit altered itself,
you know, the whole tour. So but yeah, anyway, so
we were so bumped because we were and that we
(14:35):
were rolling into New York City in a couple of days.
I think it was that day. We're rolling in and
we think we got the calls and you guys are
back to the third band as in goes Bach and
then the opener and then the third band which is us,
and they you know, we had our girls coming into
New York City to see us, and yeah, the difference
between the third band or being direct support is huge,
right because you don't get like you get the opener
(14:56):
already gets a little piece of the stage that the
opener of the opener gets even a smaller piece to
the stage. And it was like it was a big deal.
But anyways, long story short, those that's kind of the drama.
To all you listeners out there, it's like when you're
on tour as an opener, I mean a, yes, be respectful,
b like, be thankful all that stuff, which we were.
We were never late. We were always ripping all night
to get there on time to sound check, and you know,
(15:17):
being so nice to everyone. You know, everyone in Box
band and the rest of the guys are all great.
But stuff like that can happen right where it's like,
it's just it was just crappy, right, like a little
bit of drama that really ended up sort of screwing
us over for the other the second half of the tour.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You know, well, totally man, and you know what, we're here,
we're on time. So let's let's just break this into
two episodes. The well, this is the the back drama.
But I mean, again, you're right, shit happens, and but
we'll get into, well, we'll finish up on this and
we'll kind of get into what happens next.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So let's do it again in a minute.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Buddy, Thank sounds good, Buddy, Thanks for listening to One
Bad Podcast.
Welcome the One Bad Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Here's your host KD and Shaner.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
All right, Katie, Well we're coming full circle here. So
we started the whole podcast off talking about the Sebastian
Block Tour, which was the big US tour that we've
now talked about a few episodes here. How you know,
the things we really wanted coming out of Made in
the Name were like, we wanted that number one hit,
That's what we were gunning for.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And the other thing we wanted.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Was a US tour because it's it just it was
so difficult for us to break down there. And then yeah,
we get this Sebastian Block tour. So yes, this is
the full circle moment. So there's everything that we talked
about up to this in so many ways culminated in
that number one and you know, as big as things
got arena tours and stuff that followed, but this was
(00:55):
a really major tour in a few different ways because
it was massive. I mean, we'll get into the logistics
of the thing alone, but yeah, so do.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You remember how we got how we got this tour?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I feel like I remember it was a last minute thing,
or do you remember how that went down?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah? So I remember we got I got a call
from because I think that was we were with We
were with Felban at that point, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, we were with a new agent. Yeah,
so the agent who gave a shit about booking US shows.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Right, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I just got the call
being like, you guys want to tour the US, and yeah,
to your point, I mean, it's like we always thought.
I mean, so many Canadian bands never break in the US.
I mean we know it so well, and you know
the tracks hip. I just watched that documentary again. It's like,
you wonder how such a like so many bands don't
actually break in the US, and then some become way
(01:47):
bigger than the US than they are in Canada. It's like,
how does that work? We just knew. I think we
all thought, being self aware, that Obs had a sound
that could work in the US. You know, we weren't
like a Canadiana sort of sounding band. We had a
big sort of arena rock sound. So let's let's give
it a go in the US. Right, And but it
was so not easy to get any to make any
(02:09):
headway down there, right, Like we didn't have our label,
was definitely didn't have a lot of pull in the US.
Our agents are so agents in general used to they're
used to booking you in Canada, right, so it's like
they don't like our agency doesn't even have like they'd
have to team up with someone else in America to
make it work. So long story short, it's like we
got we finally got this opportunity and we knew we
(02:31):
had to do it right, and so yeah, we got
the call and it was like, let's do this, and
it was like, what forty dates or something like that,
like it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Was, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It was.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I think it was close to at least, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Like two months. We were going two months, like forty
dates and two months. And I think like an important
thing for the listeners to realize. And I think a
lot of bands would know this, but but maybe not.
Is that like when you're when you're touring crazy uh
crazy routing with low big drives, it's not that difficult
if you're in a bus, right because you can and
we talked about this a little bit, but if you're
(03:06):
going like an eight hour drive in a bus, that's easy.
You drive overnight, your driver, your bus driver drives over
night while you sleep and you wake up. You know
you're you're in the next city, right, you get up
and do your thing. But for us, we never got
to that level, or if we did, it would have
just cost too much to have a bus. And as
an opener, I mean I think we got what four
or five hundred bucks a night.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I think on that probably something like that, ye yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Which doesn't cover even hotels and food and gas. Right,
so we're losing money every every show, so we definitely
can't do a bus right, just wasn't feasible. So that routing,
I mean, I remember we saw the routing where like,
holy crap, like you and I shared the excitement. We
also saw these crazy drives day books because again Back
and his team they just want to get as many
(03:48):
shows in as possible, especially while they have a bus rented, right,
so they want to cram it as many shows as possible.
And for the opener who's driving in a van and
trailer every night, it was just like it was crazy.
So yeah, go, I mean feel free to elaborate. I met,
like I remember thinking this is gonna break us, but
we're gonna do it, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I mean, that's the right way to sum it up
because it was like it was crazy long, like you said,
as far as dates, but also yeah, we the routing,
like we started in Denver, that was the first show.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I went Denver. We worked our way down.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
To Texas, We worked our way up to Maine and
then back down through New York and then back down
to Florida. Uh and ended the tour in Florida, and
then you know, came back to Canada. So it was
like when you I like what you said because it's
so true when you you get the initial burst of
excitement like oh man, here we go, like we finally
get it, and it's like obviously a bunch of places
(04:47):
we never played before. But then you start looking at
that routing and you think, oh shit, it's gonna be
it's gonna be full on.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And yeah, man, it was full on.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And I will say the one thing about touring the
US unlike Canada is that the drives aren't quite as
crazy in between, Like we didn't have those same kind
of like you know, you're not playing Calgary one night
in Winnipeg the next night, which we had a million times,
like there's but there you know you're maybe driving.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I think our longest drive between shows.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
We might have had a couple longer ones, but you know,
we were maxing out at like five hours at least
between shows, so it wasn't like quite the same kind
of like fifteen to twenty hour drive which we'd had,
Like I said, so that was kind of nice about
the US because those big cities are so much closer
to each other. But yeah, it was, man, this it
(05:39):
was a wild ride. That tour felt like it was like,
you're right, it was two months, but man, it felt
like it was six months by the time we got
back with everything that was going on, you know, And
I don't want to say, like I know, people die
for tour stories and you don't want to go to
inside Baseball, but like I was happy that, you know,
back was he was good to but like, you know,
(06:01):
he lived up to the eighties rock star kind of legend.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I will say, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, I think we should. You're right, And again, yeah, we're
not gonna disclose too many behind the scenes details about
him because this is I'll leave that to him. But
you got to tell the story of you know, we
thought like for a lot of these opening acts, opening
tours we did, we got to know the headliners, right,
like the Deaf Leopard guys were all our buddies by
(06:26):
the end. The Shine Down guys all our buddies by
the end. Hell, I mean we played two shows with
Judas Priest and Halford came back and hung out with us, right,
And he came to our dressing room and was like
the most humble kind guy. So generally speaking, like you
open for a band, you know, they often come and
try to meet you, but you need to tell the story.
(06:47):
Because we did forty dates with Back, and on the
final night, remember in Florida, Well you tell the story
because well I'll all set up a little bit. So
Shane obviously to the listeners, very tell ounted artist, and
so he did this super amazing drawing. I think it
was an incredible hulk for for Boch's son because his
(07:11):
son was like four years old or something and he
was kind of on tour.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
For yeah it was pretty little.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, So you spent like hours making this incredible hulk
for his son and super thoughtful move and you go
and hand it to Back on the final night of
the tour and what does he say.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
To you, Well, well, you're you're almost right. So I
did it mid tour because we went on his bus once. Remember,
like we went up and they had us hang out
and stuff like that. And because this is very important
because we were hanging out and then we thought well, like, oh,
we'll probably do this a few times during the tour,
right hung out back there and there's like, yeah, Shenanigan's
(07:50):
going on on the bus. But we all chatted and
hung out and stuff, and that's where we found out,
like he said, as his kid liked incredible hulks. So yes,
I drew that because you know, I know, I thought
it was a nice kind of thing to do. Anyways,
I'd given it to somebody to give to him mid.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Tour and then yeah, so I give it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So he had it and it came from the singer
of Obs, is how they gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And because we'd met and chatted like.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
The you know, the four of us in him and
you you were wearing some sort of hat, like some
sort of memorable hat, as through the history of Obs,
Katie has had a lot of memorable hats.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, it is the black top hat that I wore
kind of like a John Bonham, you know, tip of
the hat literally, you know, I work for that whole tour. Yeah,
it's like after a show your hairs on mess he
put on the top hat, so yeah, the black top hat.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah. Well, and so.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Trying to break this story down, there was a bit
of there was a bit of shenanigans with us and
the other opener who there was just there was a
bit of a dispute because we were supposed to we
we were the first opener for half the tour, then
we were the direct opener for the next half of
the tour, and one of the people in that band
did not like that, and it was a whole kind
of thing. Yeah, there was a lot of drama, and
(09:14):
so an incident happened part way through our when we
were the direct opener. That was it was my it
was my fault. I blame I blame Hicks for booking
us into a really cold, out of season Airbnb and
then we all got a cold and I was on
(09:34):
some like very heavy over the counter prescription drugs. Anyway,
Shenanigan's happened on stage. We almost got booted off the tour.
So but it was actually just a play to get
us to go back to the first opener. So that
was like the thing. So anyway, we went back to that,
(09:54):
and so Bach knew that the singer of Obs was
the guy that had the Shenanigans at this show, and
he knew the singer drew this picture. Anyway, last show
of the tour. Now we've come again full circle on this.
I was coming after our set. I was coming backstage,
(10:15):
and I happened to run into Block because as you know,
he was never there like until like what fell like
minutes before he went on stage, and I just happened
to see him, and I was like, ah, fuck it,
it's the last day of the tour.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I know he doesn't like to get bugged really, but
I was like.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Hey, you know, like I we all went in and
said hey to the band and like thanks for having
us on the tour, and as you do for bands
out there, it's always nice to be grateful as an opener.
So I stopped him and I was like, hey, I
was like, thank you so much, man for having us
out and you know, sorry for any of the shit
that kind of went. And he's like, oh no, He's like,
(10:48):
oh man, that's all good. Man, Like yeah, and I'm
like and I'm glad that you were or I hope
that your your son, like the incredible Hulk that I
drew for him. And he's like, he's like, yeah, you're
you're seeing Drew that for me, man, And I said,
I was like, well that's me.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I said, I'm I'm the singer. He's like, no, no,
you're singer, the guy in the hat.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And he pointed over at me.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, what's over at KD.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And I was like, no, that's that's uh, that's Kurt,
that's the drummer. I said, I'm the singer. He's like
he just looked at his whole band and was like
what the fuck man in like a very eighties like
telling his body and then just he just looked bewildered.
I don't think he remembered who we were or you know,
knew anything that was going on. And then he then
(11:37):
he said you're welcome and walked off.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Like I mean, I I just get such a kick
out of that. You trying to convince him that you're
the singer, you know, and it's like it's.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Like no, no, not you the guy, not you, the
guy in the hat, the singer, Like yeah, it was.
It really summed up what that tour kind of was
which was like, uh, kind of what it should be.
I suppose when you're opening for someone like Bach, like
it had a there was a bit of that eighties
kind of craziness going on with a lot of it, which, like,
(12:08):
I don't know felt right to me.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't know how you felt about it.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I mean like that's being generous to him, which
I like that you're being generous, and you know it's
so much like I love you know, I love Bach.
But I think I had higher expectations, right, I thought, like,
so after forty shows he never even saw us play once, right,
because he did, he would know that I'm the fucking
drummer and you're the fucking singer. You know, so he
(12:32):
didn't like a forty forty shows, he couldn't even pop
his head in for like literally a song. Right, Maybe
I just build things up in my mind, but I
thought I thought he'd be like because I think, you know,
obviously with your vocal style like and our band sound like,
I thought he would dig obs, right, But he didn't
give us a chance. He was you know so whatever.
(12:53):
I mean, Yeah, it's always like and I'm gonna just
quickly tell the why we got we lost that the
main opening stall is because some guy was just in
front of our front row because he got front row
to save that spot for back right. So he said,
sat in the front row with his arms crossed and
then staring at his phone, and he's right in front
of you. And sure you can say the meds. I
(13:16):
think you were on some meds. But I also loved it,
and I support you to this day that you called
him out on and said, if you're me in the
front row, get off your fucking phone, you know. And
I was like yeah, I was like, yeah, I was
gonna throw a stick at him, but then I could
get charged, you know. But you know, he called him out.
And then this guy just happened to be a box
super fan who paid for the in bock would charge
you a hundred bucks to come onto his bus to
(13:37):
meet him, which again I'm not I'm disclosing all the
all the details here. Listeners, rock rock rock Star one
on one hundred bucks. You asked if you want to
come onto the bus. And so this guy happened to
have paid that, and only like five ten people pay
that at night, but so he's hardcore. Uh So he
goes onto the bus and says, hey, that the guy
in the opening band gave me ship for being on
(13:58):
my phone. And then Box like what And then someone
someone told back that you that your voice is kind
of similar to his or something like that, and so
Box like is he trying to make fun of me
or something?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And we're like, oh, that dude, you remember more of
this than I do. I obviously like those men's were
fairly powerful.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Exactly, but it's just like the the the the idea
that somehow we're trying to like imitate him song wise
or something. It's just ludicrous, right, But and again I think,
you know, to be fair, I think Box, you know,
was a little his mind was a bit altered itself,
you know, the whole tour. So but yeah, anyway, so
we were so bumped because we were and that we
(14:35):
were rolling into New York City in a couple of days.
I think it was that day. We're rolling in and
we think we got the calls and you guys are
back to the third band as in goes Bach and
then the opener and then the third band which is us,
and they you know, we had our girls coming into
New York City to see us, and yeah, the difference
between the third band or being direct support is huge,
right because you don't get like you get the opener
(14:56):
already gets a little piece of the stage that the
opener of the opener gets even a smaller piece to
the stage. And it was like it was a big deal.
But anyways, long story short, those that's kind of the drama.
To all you listeners out there, it's like when you're
on tour as an opener, I mean a, yes, be respectful,
b like, be thankful all that stuff, which we were.
We were never late. We were always ripping all night
to get there on time to sound check, and you know,
(15:17):
being so nice to everyone. You know, everyone in Box
band and the rest of the guys are all great.
But stuff like that can happen right where it's like,
it's just it was just crappy, right, like a little
bit of drama that really ended up sort of screwing
us over for the other the second half of the tour.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You know, well, totally man, and you know what, we're here,
we're on time. So let's let's just break this into
two episodes. The well, this is the the back drama.
But I mean, again, you're right, shit happens, and but
we'll get into, well, we'll finish up on this and
we'll kind of get into what happens next.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So let's do it again in a minute.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Buddy, Thank sounds good, Buddy, Thanks for listening to One
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