December 8, 2024 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome the One Bad Podcast. Here's your host KD and
Shaner So Kdie.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We've talked about twenty years, like twenty years of history
of OBS and now it brings us to basically today.
Really the last three years post pandemic, we came back.
I think you've said before, like we wondered if there
was still magic there, and there was, Like we got
together and wrote and we started to write with Tara
(00:32):
and Cooley. We kind of had some video chats, and
I think these next episodes, I think that's I mean,
this is where we're at right now. We're doing the
EP release right now to end off our twentieth year
with new music.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So cool.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But yeah, like it's a very different process happened this
time around than we've probably ever experienced before. And I mean,
I know you and I have talked about this off podcast,
but like probably my favorite time recording and writing.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't know about you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it's I mean, I just want to give a
shout out to Tara and Cooley because it's pretty cool.
It's pretty amazing. I should say that, Like, you know,
had it been other people, we may not have had
that sort of connection, you know, what I mean, like
how many times in bands over the years, especially when
like the original lineup changes and the new people come in,
it doesn't always work right. And I mean, Tara, I
(01:29):
could imagine two other people that could make it work
the way that Tara and Cooley have, right, And so
shout out to those two for like it just feels
like a real natural thing and that's like the best
compman I can give, I think, And that's how it
was in the studio, right. So we got in the
studio again, as I always say, you and I've always
talked about for like the last well five years, probably
(01:52):
since members started to change. It's like, is the is
the magic still there? You know? And if it's not,
then that's when you got to hang it up as
a band, right or you you sold drawn? But it's not.
The fans know, and I think you know that it's
not special. But we got in the studio and it
just felt like so natural and fun, the first time
(02:12):
I'd had fun in the studio probably since like well,
I guess it was a red album. We had fun.
It was like it was hard. We probably pushed ourselves
harder on that record than any record, but we still
had some fun, you know, but it was like it
was a mix, right, But what came after just felt
as we talked about previously, it's like that it felt
more like pressure, right. It felt like a job, but
(02:34):
but more just like pressure once you have those first
hits and you got to top those, right. So it's
probably been since twenty twelve that I feel we were
in the studio just having a blast, you know, laughing,
you know, joking around, and then also just being being
us being musicians, bringing our a game. Right. So yeah,
it's I haven't had that much fun in like literally
(02:55):
a dozen years in the studio.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, as I'm fumbling around with my phone because I
made a note, I forgot I made a note and
then I totally forgot to bring it up, but I
found it, and yeah, just to just to remind myself
of something when we talked on the last episode that
really hit me and I hadn't really thought of it before,
which is just like kind of the full circle moment
of this EP and the fact that like I hadn't
(03:23):
it hadn't hit me until we talked on the last
episode that like, I think, what really now that I'm like,
you know, we finished the last couple songs last year.
Now that I've just listened back to it and thinking
of this time in the studio, I think what it
is that was so special this time was that you're right,
like we you know, even the Red album, like we
(03:43):
were like let's get on radio, let's you know, like
there was this sort of pressure. And then like after
that album, especially as we've gone to length talking about,
is that the pressure mounted. Like you know, I think
we both want to make sure that everybody watching or
listening to this podcast knows that it has nothing to
do with the personnel. Like man we wrote, you know,
(04:04):
the songs of our life with Hicks and Granny, you know,
but like it was a different time in the studio.
It was a very pressure filled and not only that,
but like we were learning so much like we you know,
sometimes I felt like singing I'm hanging on for dear life,
like I'm learning as I'm singing, and you know, all
these things.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Whereas I think what really hit me.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
In the studio this time is that it felt a
lot like those first records like Disaggression, where we had
nothing on it in this way that like we proved
ourselves at radio we'd done all the things we said
that we were gonna do. We'd proven that we could
write hit songs and write good songs honestly, and songs
we were proud of. And this time it was like,
(04:46):
let's just go in and write great tunes, stuff that
we really like. But this time around we also had
the musicianship, which was cool. Like I'd never walked into
the studio and felt like that confident with my voice,
like I just you know, taken a lot of lessons
and uh, it just kind of cleaning up my health.
And you know, I'd never been in the studio where
(05:07):
I felt like in control, you know, And this time
it was the everything sort of came together. We'd been
through the shit, we weren't pressured to write a hit
song and kind of like prove ourselves to the world.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We've done all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So it was like we had these songs that we
were really pumped about, and we also like came in
and like and we slayed it, Like I felt great,
Like you played amazing. Cooly and Tara, they're pros, Like
you know, their musicianship is amazing, not just their writing,
but like man watch Tara McCleod play guitar, You're like,
(05:44):
oh shit, like that this this person knows what she's doing.
And you know, Cooley can play guitar as well as
he better than he probably plays bass. And that's no
shade to his bass playing. Is He's come like a
million miles as.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
A bass player.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But so it was really cool to be like feel
our musicianship up to this level that it had never
really been. And then it just made everything so easy
and enjoyable, right, and you know, showed out to our producer,
Brian Montcar's just a gem to work with too, right,
So we didn't have that like you know, I mean
(06:17):
I felt with previous certain producer for sure, that feeling
like we weren't good enough and he was going to
mold us into something. Whereas this felt like, man, you
guys know what you're doing, like get in there and
kill it. And that just like it felt so free.
You know, did you feel that same thing?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, you hit the nail on the head, man. I
feel like, for the first time in our career, we
were equals with our producer, you know what I mean?
Because even you know, as much as we got along
well with like Danny and Rats and Gavin. I mean,
it's like we were younger, kind of earlier in our career,
so it's like they were kind of telling us, here's
(06:55):
what you got to do to to do it, you
know what I mean, to do it right. Yeah, that
was their job in a lot of ways. But it
wasn't like, you know, we weren't at the stage in
our career where we could kind of be on an
equal footing with him, Whereas with Brian, you know, again,
because we're twenty years in. We've had our successes and
(07:16):
our failures, but we know what we want right and
as players, you know, he just start of said like
and all this is also a shout out or kudos
to Brian that he recognized that and didn't sort of
talk down to us, you know what I mean. He
was like, so it's like we're all kind of on
the same level, which is pretty cool. You know. He
never it was like I remember one time I was like,
should I be doing less fills? You know, like should
(07:38):
I should throw and less big tom phills. He's like, oh, fuck, no,
that's throwing more.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Whereas yeah, you know, we never would have I'd never
have been told that. On the other three records, right,
But yeah, and I think you're right, so created this
like natural sense of like just being at ease. And
that's what I think real rock and roll the magic
can come out, right, And I say I met rock
and roll exclusively, because sure the magic comes in other genres,
but it doesn't compare it to the magic of rock
(08:06):
and roll. And I would say, like rock and roll
at its best hits you in one of three spots,
either the brain, the heart, or the groin you know,
as in as in either it's intellectual, which is great,
you know, usually lyrically right, and and or in the
groin obviously just something sexual about it, right. But I
(08:26):
think the heart, when hits you in the heart, that's
like the real like holy shit, that's the payoff, right,
It makes your arm hair stand up right. And then
some music, if you're lucky, hits you in all three
right at different points in the song, you know, and
that's that's the fucking that's you know, you know, led
Zeppelin rock and roll or that's bohem Rhapsody hits all
(08:47):
three of those, right or ac DC. I mean, all
their songs are growing, heavy songs, but sometimes they're all
so they're also intellectual, you know, but I think we
you know, we did that some many songs. I feel
like we hit those hit those three areas, and that's
when you know like something special is happening, you know,
because I I can acknowledge that because I'm feeling it
(09:07):
myself while we're recording it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, and that's the cool thing, man, And you know,
I totally agree with I mean, you said, like it's
cool when you're you're pumped about the songs you're writing,
and then you're excited to do your part, like you know,
I get I get amped to go sing in the studio,
like I love it. It's a great environment. It's just
like it's cool, but also like you know, pull back
(09:31):
the curtain. The way we recorded these songs specifically was
like you and Tara and Cooley live off the floor,
like in a room together. I'm kind of in the
isolation booth because you know, just for technical reasons, you
can't have sounds bleeding in and stuff like their amps
are all off in different rooms, but the three of
you are like in there, and so like the four
(09:53):
of us are like locking in like we would in
a jamer which is like such a cool way to
do it, and then of course we get that down
and keep a lot of Cooley's bass, you know, he
might plug in a thing or two.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And actually we use a lot of Terra's.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Guitar tracks from Live off the Floor too, which is
so cool Big War Balloon. I mean, it's just like
there's such a feel in that tune, but that is
her guitar that she played with you like right there
live and so honestly, man, it's cool because I love
to go do my thing, but like watching you guys
do your thing is also like just like, man, like,
(10:28):
holy shit, the band's on fire right now.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Like it's just so cool to watch that and be.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
A part of it, right And I mean, that's some
of my favorite stuff in the studio, and I think
I hadn't enjoyed it as much before because you just
there's so much going on and you're so kind of
you know, I think our heads were in different places
rather than just like truly like enjoying the moment, enjoying
making the tunes, and of course like working your ass off,
(10:55):
like we're not you know, I'm not Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I can't go in and do one. I mean, it's
gonna it's gonna take a little bit, but.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That was just like such a cool environment and like
you said, it just it felt fun and it felt
like both, like I said, before, a return to something,
but also this new thing where there was musicianship there
that just we I don't think we'd felt before. And truly,
I mean, it's art. You never get great at it.
You're always working. You always want to be a better player,
(11:27):
better singer, better artist, a better writer. But I mean
it's just cool to walk in and just feel like, yeah,
I'm gonna slay this part, like I know we're gonna
go until it's right and that you know, that felt great.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But it was cool just watching.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You guys play, especially those I think that's my favorite
time in the studio this time around, is when like
we would track and then like when we're doing those
scratch tracks because I'm gonna do all the vocals again later,
I only do like two or three takes with you guys,
and then the three of you sit in and just
work it, and then I get to just sit in
the control room.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's my favorite part. I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I just like, you know, watching the three of you
and they're just rocking. It is just like my favorite
part absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, And you make a good point, and I love that,
you know, it's cool to you know, know that you're
watching and having fun with it, like you make it point,
like I don't think we could have had like you know,
our musicianship couldn't have had that sort of you know,
I guess earlier records, especially the you know, twelve years ago,
(12:29):
like we didn't have the musicianship to just have that
free reign in the studio, you know what I mean.
So I mettioned that sort of we're unequal footing with Brian.
I think we've earned that over the years, you know,
because we keep getting better as players, hopefully, Whereas like
back in the day, you know, there was more takes required,
or you know, the occasional editing of like okay, you
(12:49):
flubbed the note there or whatever, so we couldn't have
just free reign to just be chill and whatever. Is
kind of more more pressure, maybe more more kind of
is more more high strung, whereas now it's like we've
all played our stuff, our instruments long enough that we
can it affords us the ability to be chill, right,
It's kind of like, you know, the more you practice having,
(13:10):
the more you can then just be relaxed.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I think that was a real cool thing, which I
can't wait to I want to hear what ideas you
guys have for songs. I can't wait to get back
and like do some more recording. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well and you know, yeah, man, It's it's funny when
you think, like sometimes you look back on your history,
like this podcast is doing for us, and you you know,
so you go through like even those painful times, but
you realize, like you don't get to have a moment
like we did in the studio without going through all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean, that's you know, we're kind of coming up
on time here.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We'll just keep going for the next I think I'd
love to just keep talking about the experience here and
then we'll finish off with one last episode to round
out the podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
But you know, we've we've.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Been approached by people I specifically remember, and I hope
I haven't shared this already, but I specifically remember we
did a gig in Amigos and Saskatoon years ago, and
we were already touring and things were starting to kind
of pick up and stuff and these guys came came
up to me after and they're like, oh, great show.
Like you know, he's I just like remember this so vividly.
(14:23):
He's like, you guys should take not would you take
us on tour? You guys should take us on tour.
And I said, oh, you're a band, like right on.
He's like, yeah, like, you guys should take us out
and like, you know, get us into radio and stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And I was like, oh, well, you know, maybe I'm
probably not.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And I said, well, you know, you guys, I give
them the same kind of advice we gotten so often,
which is like, uh, you know, go out and play
shows like get you know, get a bit of a
following and stuff, and then you know, if you guys
are still at it in a year or so, like, well,
let's talk. And he's like, no, we don't want to
do that, Like we don't want to do like the
grinded out.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
We just want to like.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Go I said, well, yeah, that's the fucking dream, dude,
But that doesn't work that way. And so when we're
recalling these stories and just thinking about the ease and
the fun of this, you don't get to have that
without the ship. You don't get to have it, like
you don't get the highs without the lows, like you
just don't. There's no there's no career in everything, in anything,
(15:23):
especially the arts.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
If you don't, you know, you're gonna eat shit. You
just are.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You're gonna have to go make some mistakes personally and professionally,
and like work through that ship as a band, especially
come back, and then then you get to start having
these moments be where it becomes fun and you know, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
There's more highs than lows.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But but let's cut it off there, man, and let's
come back for another one on talking about the studio
new EP.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's all good, buddy, Thanks for listening to One Bad
Podcast
Welcome the One Bad Podcast. Here's your host KD and
Shaner So Kdie.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We've talked about twenty years, like twenty years of history
of OBS and now it brings us to basically today.
Really the last three years post pandemic, we came back.
I think you've said before, like we wondered if there
was still magic there, and there was, Like we got
together and wrote and we started to write with Tara
(00:32):
and Cooley. We kind of had some video chats, and
I think these next episodes, I think that's I mean,
this is where we're at right now. We're doing the
EP release right now to end off our twentieth year
with new music.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So cool.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But yeah, like it's a very different process happened this
time around than we've probably ever experienced before. And I mean,
I know you and I have talked about this off podcast,
but like probably my favorite time recording and writing.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't know about you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it's I mean, I just want to give a
shout out to Tara and Cooley because it's pretty cool.
It's pretty amazing. I should say that, Like, you know,
had it been other people, we may not have had
that sort of connection, you know, what I mean, like
how many times in bands over the years, especially when
like the original lineup changes and the new people come in,
it doesn't always work right. And I mean, Tara, I
(01:29):
could imagine two other people that could make it work
the way that Tara and Cooley have, right, And so
shout out to those two for like it just feels
like a real natural thing and that's like the best
compman I can give, I think, And that's how it
was in the studio, right. So we got in the
studio again, as I always say, you and I've always
talked about for like the last well five years, probably
(01:52):
since members started to change. It's like, is the is
the magic still there? You know? And if it's not,
then that's when you got to hang it up as
a band, right or you you sold drawn? But it's not.
The fans know, and I think you know that it's
not special. But we got in the studio and it
just felt like so natural and fun, the first time
(02:12):
I'd had fun in the studio probably since like well,
I guess it was a red album. We had fun.
It was like it was hard. We probably pushed ourselves
harder on that record than any record, but we still
had some fun, you know, but it was like it
was a mix, right, But what came after just felt
as we talked about previously, it's like that it felt
more like pressure, right. It felt like a job, but
(02:34):
but more just like pressure once you have those first
hits and you got to top those, right. So it's
probably been since twenty twelve that I feel we were
in the studio just having a blast, you know, laughing,
you know, joking around, and then also just being being
us being musicians, bringing our a game. Right. So yeah,
it's I haven't had that much fun in like literally
(02:55):
a dozen years in the studio.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, as I'm fumbling around with my phone because I
made a note, I forgot I made a note and
then I totally forgot to bring it up, but I
found it, and yeah, just to just to remind myself
of something when we talked on the last episode that
really hit me and I hadn't really thought of it before,
which is just like kind of the full circle moment
of this EP and the fact that like I hadn't
(03:23):
it hadn't hit me until we talked on the last
episode that like, I think, what really now that I'm like,
you know, we finished the last couple songs last year.
Now that I've just listened back to it and thinking
of this time in the studio, I think what it
is that was so special this time was that you're right,
like we you know, even the Red album, like we
(03:43):
were like let's get on radio, let's you know, like
there was this sort of pressure. And then like after
that album, especially as we've gone to length talking about,
is that the pressure mounted. Like you know, I think
we both want to make sure that everybody watching or
listening to this podcast knows that it has nothing to
do with the personnel. Like man we wrote, you know,
(04:04):
the songs of our life with Hicks and Granny, you know,
but like it was a different time in the studio.
It was a very pressure filled and not only that,
but like we were learning so much like we you know,
sometimes I felt like singing I'm hanging on for dear life,
like I'm learning as I'm singing, and you know, all
these things.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Whereas I think what really hit me.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
In the studio this time is that it felt a
lot like those first records like Disaggression, where we had
nothing on it in this way that like we proved
ourselves at radio we'd done all the things we said
that we were gonna do. We'd proven that we could
write hit songs and write good songs honestly, and songs
we were proud of. And this time it was like,
(04:46):
let's just go in and write great tunes, stuff that
we really like. But this time around we also had
the musicianship, which was cool. Like I'd never walked into
the studio and felt like that confident with my voice,
like I just you know, taken a lot of lessons
and uh, it just kind of cleaning up my health.
And you know, I'd never been in the studio where
(05:07):
I felt like in control, you know, And this time
it was the everything sort of came together. We'd been
through the shit, we weren't pressured to write a hit
song and kind of like prove ourselves to the world.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We've done all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So it was like we had these songs that we
were really pumped about, and we also like came in
and like and we slayed it, Like I felt great,
Like you played amazing. Cooly and Tara, they're pros, Like
you know, their musicianship is amazing, not just their writing,
but like man watch Tara McCleod play guitar, You're like,
(05:44):
oh shit, like that this this person knows what she's doing.
And you know, Cooley can play guitar as well as
he better than he probably plays bass. And that's no
shade to his bass playing. Is He's come like a
million miles as.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
A bass player.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But so it was really cool to be like feel
our musicianship up to this level that it had never
really been. And then it just made everything so easy
and enjoyable, right, and you know, showed out to our producer,
Brian Montcar's just a gem to work with too, right,
So we didn't have that like you know, I mean
(06:17):
I felt with previous certain producer for sure, that feeling
like we weren't good enough and he was going to
mold us into something. Whereas this felt like, man, you
guys know what you're doing, like get in there and
kill it. And that just like it felt so free.
You know, did you feel that same thing?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, you hit the nail on the head, man. I
feel like, for the first time in our career, we
were equals with our producer, you know what I mean?
Because even you know, as much as we got along
well with like Danny and Rats and Gavin. I mean,
it's like we were younger, kind of earlier in our career,
so it's like they were kind of telling us, here's
(06:55):
what you got to do to to do it, you
know what I mean, to do it right. Yeah, that
was their job in a lot of ways. But it
wasn't like, you know, we weren't at the stage in
our career where we could kind of be on an
equal footing with him, Whereas with Brian, you know, again,
because we're twenty years in. We've had our successes and
(07:16):
our failures, but we know what we want right and
as players, you know, he just start of said like
and all this is also a shout out or kudos
to Brian that he recognized that and didn't sort of
talk down to us, you know what I mean. He
was like, so it's like we're all kind of on
the same level, which is pretty cool. You know. He
never it was like I remember one time I was like,
should I be doing less fills? You know, like should
(07:38):
I should throw and less big tom phills. He's like, oh, fuck, no,
that's throwing more.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Whereas yeah, you know, we never would have I'd never
have been told that. On the other three records, right,
But yeah, and I think you're right, so created this
like natural sense of like just being at ease. And
that's what I think real rock and roll the magic
can come out, right, And I say I met rock
and roll exclusively, because sure the magic comes in other genres,
but it doesn't compare it to the magic of rock
(08:06):
and roll. And I would say, like rock and roll
at its best hits you in one of three spots,
either the brain, the heart, or the groin you know,
as in as in either it's intellectual, which is great,
you know, usually lyrically right, and and or in the
groin obviously just something sexual about it, right. But I
(08:26):
think the heart, when hits you in the heart, that's
like the real like holy shit, that's the payoff, right,
It makes your arm hair stand up right. And then
some music, if you're lucky, hits you in all three
right at different points in the song, you know, and
that's that's the fucking that's you know, you know, led
Zeppelin rock and roll or that's bohem Rhapsody hits all
(08:47):
three of those, right or ac DC. I mean, all
their songs are growing, heavy songs, but sometimes they're all
so they're also intellectual, you know, but I think we
you know, we did that some many songs. I feel
like we hit those hit those three areas, and that's
when you know like something special is happening, you know,
because I I can acknowledge that because I'm feeling it
(09:07):
myself while we're recording it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, and that's the cool thing, man, And you know,
I totally agree with I mean, you said, like it's
cool when you're you're pumped about the songs you're writing,
and then you're excited to do your part, like you know,
I get I get amped to go sing in the studio,
like I love it. It's a great environment. It's just
like it's cool, but also like you know, pull back
(09:31):
the curtain. The way we recorded these songs specifically was
like you and Tara and Cooley live off the floor,
like in a room together. I'm kind of in the
isolation booth because you know, just for technical reasons, you
can't have sounds bleeding in and stuff like their amps
are all off in different rooms, but the three of
you are like in there, and so like the four
(09:53):
of us are like locking in like we would in
a jamer which is like such a cool way to
do it, and then of course we get that down
and keep a lot of Cooley's bass, you know, he
might plug in a thing or two.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And actually we use a lot of Terra's.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Guitar tracks from Live off the Floor too, which is
so cool Big War Balloon. I mean, it's just like
there's such a feel in that tune, but that is
her guitar that she played with you like right there
live and so honestly, man, it's cool because I love
to go do my thing, but like watching you guys
do your thing is also like just like, man, like,
(10:28):
holy shit, the band's on fire right now.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Like it's just so cool to watch that and be.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
A part of it, right And I mean, that's some
of my favorite stuff in the studio, and I think
I hadn't enjoyed it as much before because you just
there's so much going on and you're so kind of
you know, I think our heads were in different places
rather than just like truly like enjoying the moment, enjoying
making the tunes, and of course like working your ass off,
(10:55):
like we're not you know, I'm not Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I can't go in and do one. I mean, it's
gonna it's gonna take a little bit, but.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That was just like such a cool environment and like
you said, it just it felt fun and it felt
like both, like I said, before, a return to something,
but also this new thing where there was musicianship there
that just we I don't think we'd felt before. And truly,
I mean, it's art. You never get great at it.
You're always working. You always want to be a better player,
(11:27):
better singer, better artist, a better writer. But I mean
it's just cool to walk in and just feel like, yeah,
I'm gonna slay this part, like I know we're gonna
go until it's right and that you know, that felt great.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But it was cool just watching.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You guys play, especially those I think that's my favorite
time in the studio this time around, is when like
we would track and then like when we're doing those
scratch tracks because I'm gonna do all the vocals again later,
I only do like two or three takes with you guys,
and then the three of you sit in and just
work it, and then I get to just sit in
the control room.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's my favorite part. I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I just like, you know, watching the three of you
and they're just rocking. It is just like my favorite
part absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, And you make a good point, and I love that,
you know, it's cool to you know, know that you're
watching and having fun with it, like you make it point,
like I don't think we could have had like you know,
our musicianship couldn't have had that sort of you know,
I guess earlier records, especially the you know, twelve years ago,
(12:29):
like we didn't have the musicianship to just have that
free reign in the studio, you know what I mean.
So I mettioned that sort of we're unequal footing with Brian.
I think we've earned that over the years, you know,
because we keep getting better as players, hopefully, Whereas like
back in the day, you know, there was more takes required,
or you know, the occasional editing of like okay, you
(12:49):
flubbed the note there or whatever, so we couldn't have
just free reign to just be chill and whatever. Is
kind of more more pressure, maybe more more kind of
is more more high strung, whereas now it's like we've
all played our stuff, our instruments long enough that we
can it affords us the ability to be chill, right,
It's kind of like, you know, the more you practice having,
(13:10):
the more you can then just be relaxed.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I think that was a real cool thing, which I
can't wait to I want to hear what ideas you
guys have for songs. I can't wait to get back
and like do some more recording. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well and you know, yeah, man, It's it's funny when
you think, like sometimes you look back on your history,
like this podcast is doing for us, and you you know,
so you go through like even those painful times, but
you realize, like you don't get to have a moment
like we did in the studio without going through all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean, that's you know, we're kind of coming up
on time here.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We'll just keep going for the next I think I'd
love to just keep talking about the experience here and
then we'll finish off with one last episode to round
out the podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
But you know, we've we've.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Been approached by people I specifically remember, and I hope
I haven't shared this already, but I specifically remember we
did a gig in Amigos and Saskatoon years ago, and
we were already touring and things were starting to kind
of pick up and stuff and these guys came came
up to me after and they're like, oh, great show.
Like you know, he's I just like remember this so vividly.
(14:23):
He's like, you guys should take not would you take
us on tour? You guys should take us on tour.
And I said, oh, you're a band, like right on.
He's like, yeah, like, you guys should take us out
and like, you know, get us into radio and stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And I was like, oh, well, you know, maybe I'm
probably not.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And I said, well, you know, you guys, I give
them the same kind of advice we gotten so often,
which is like, uh, you know, go out and play
shows like get you know, get a bit of a
following and stuff, and then you know, if you guys
are still at it in a year or so, like, well,
let's talk. And he's like, no, we don't want to
do that, Like we don't want to do like the
grinded out.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
We just want to like.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Go I said, well, yeah, that's the fucking dream, dude,
But that doesn't work that way. And so when we're
recalling these stories and just thinking about the ease and
the fun of this, you don't get to have that
without the ship. You don't get to have it, like
you don't get the highs without the lows, like you
just don't. There's no there's no career in everything, in anything,
(15:23):
especially the arts.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
If you don't, you know, you're gonna eat shit. You
just are.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You're gonna have to go make some mistakes personally and professionally,
and like work through that ship as a band, especially
come back, and then then you get to start having
these moments be where it becomes fun and you know, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
There's more highs than lows.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But but let's cut it off there, man, and let's
come back for another one on talking about the studio
new EP.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's all good, buddy, Thanks for listening to One Bad
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