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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I've needed a lot of time to process and decompress
and talk about the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. I
needed a lot of time to process and talk about
twenty four years since ninety eleven. And you know what
(00:28):
I'm taking comfort in right this moment is the Major
League Baseball logo that was rolled out the very first
anniversary of September eleventh, And they've put that logo on
the boards across America and across ballparks in America the
last twenty three years, and I think it's a reminder
(00:54):
that we can find comfort in baseball. It gave us
comfort in the fall of two thousand and one. We
can find comfort in the game of baseball that I
can't find comfort anywhere else because it's a homegrown feel.
It's an era where that Piazza homer on September twenty one,
(01:18):
two thousand and one, and then the Yankees magical run
in the World Series. Sure you would have wanted that
under your belt to make it a four peat, and
with everything going on following the terror attacks of September eleventh,
But as a nine year old watching that hole fall unfold,
(01:43):
and then a year later be at the anniversary of
nine to eleven where they put that logo on the
board against the Orioles. It brings me back to that
comfort of what baseball can do, how it can heal us.
And I'm common enough now thanks to this logo to
share with you how it feels. The fact of the
(02:05):
matter is, Charlie Kirk was a member of as you know,
I work on Salem.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Media Group and just a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Ago Mike Gallagher calling me a loyal employee of Sale Media.
I mean that's a SoundBite for the records. Well, Charlie
Kirk not only was a loyal employee to Salem Media,
he was out there doing public discourse. And yes, Ben
Shapiro does that too, but hitting the college campuses that
(02:36):
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Did year after year.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Like he did yesterday and was supposed to complete yesterday,
probably has impacted so many lives. He probably didn't realize it.
But then I think of the radio side more because
either before him when he was on twelve to two,
or after him, either on the Piscopo hours or the
(03:06):
Gallagher hours before he would be on, or after him
with Idella. I feel like I lost a radio brother
and a colleague because we did share those same airwaves
at different times. And whatever you believe or don't believe,
(03:27):
he would say he was a human being and the
way he was assassinated in cold blood is unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You can ask Ryan.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I was slamming the table four or five times yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Because of the heinousness of.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
This, the uneasy way someone for two hundred dollars yards
out could just kill a political opponent. And I've tried
to also think about the way this impacts my world,
(04:21):
because he and I are not too much older ages apart.
He was thirty one continuing to launch his Turning Point
USA even more and I'm thirty three, also working on launching.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And we make our livings. And Charlie made his living.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Opining, yes from the right side of things, but opining
about the news of the day, the culture of the day.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And he made his mark.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's why Phil Boyce brought him on here a few
years ago to Salem Media because he could see he
was making his mark at the time, and he influenced
so many.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
To vote for Trump. Yes, but he was an influencer.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And if you ever noticed his videos of public debate.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It seems that he was not.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Aggressive with the.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Debater, He was not.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Rude to them, let them talk, and then he would
take him to school a little bit, wouldn't he.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
On a wide array of subjects. But the bigger.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Question is what we still be able to have political
discourse after this clear, clear targeting, an assassination of a
political opponent took place.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's troubling.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I think it's podcaster and it's people on the air
in different capacities. We should all feel a comfort in
being able to express ourselves without intimidity, a feeling like
(07:10):
you be intimidated for it. That's the freedom of speech.
That is the first Amendment. We should be able to
live in a society where we can go to work
and not have to worry about being stabbed to death
(07:30):
on a Charlotte rail We should be able to go
to a Mitzvah truck and do our daily mitsva if
you are a Jewish person, without being intimidated for it,
without being circled by the vultures. And personally, I think
(07:56):
I should be able to walk out of my radio
studio after a long day of engineering and producing feeling
not a feeling about what a good day it was
and not having to look over my shoulder, Oh is
there a protesters or someone there the founder or address
on the website.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I mean, it's just run.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
A lot of thoughts through my head. And though I
cannot ascribe to all the views that Charlie Kirk has
talked about, that's the distinction someone I cannot ascribe to
(08:40):
all the views, I can say.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He stood firm in what he believed.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And probably you know it has changed so many lives
with those beliefs, and that should be celebrated. I was
calling Mike Gallagher today. It calls mean for Mike Gallagher.
Someone went on the air and said, you know, Charlie
brought me closer to God. That's a special call to
(09:21):
take right there. And so as someone who's originally behind
the scenes, was hired to be behind the scenes, only
getting more airtime since the really twenty two starting point
with the Episcopal Joe Piscopo show. Over the years and
(09:42):
in my health and now shake it off Martin Lucas,
I've thought about it a lot since this horrific assassination
of someone just two years younger than me. If they're
going to come after the up and coming thirty plus
(10:05):
year olds. Do I step behind the scenes or do
I just keep plugging along and talking about what's on
my heart every day? On one look up Alex Network.
(10:31):
See the whole point of the shooting was not just
to shoot and kill horrifically Charlie Kirk. It was the silence,
dissent and disagreement. But we should not let them silence us.
No matter what view you might have, you should be
(10:56):
able to freely express it. Look at how many and
people got me grup for this, but look how many
protests have really only gotten bad because people started skirmishes
(11:19):
with the cops, not really the other way around.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
We've seen videos.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Of screaming people protesters at cops. Cops really didn't do
anything unless it got physical. I've seen Fifth Avenue be
(11:46):
divided between pro Trump and anti Trump protests. Maybe the
key was across the street, but it didn't get violent.
They were able to expe rest themselves without harm or issue.
(12:10):
We need to get back to that discourse where yes,
you're gonna have two opposing sides.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And still.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Come out of it unscathed and maybe through the protesting
learn from each other, talk to each other. I wrote
this about nine to eleven, and I feel it's so
so important today. I said it was a tragic beginning
(12:54):
to the fall of two thousand and one. It however,
did show our resilience an underlying want to be unified.
And while I know tomorrow September twelve will go back
to arguing about today's world, let's work on unity instead
(13:16):
of division. It's what those who lost their lives on
September eleventh, two.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Thousand and one would want.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
How did we go from a Congress that's saying God
bless America in unison on the steps of the Capitol
to now a political opponent, a political dissident gunned down
(13:59):
in two shore a time. And I have often ascribed
to the idea that God has our time of return
home and his etched in us somewhere, we just.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Don't know it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But these acts of evil should not speed up God's
It should not speed up someone's expiration date. Let me
say that again. These acts of evil should not be
(14:43):
able to speed up someone's expiration date.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And what do I mean by that?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
If someone gets in their wonky head to gun down
someone they disagree with, they're not only killing a human life,
this case a husband and a dad of two. But
(15:19):
they are also ruining I feel, God's plan and cutting
it short, and yes, in the sense expediting the expiration date.
So how do we stop those from not only committing evil,
(15:41):
but from expediting expiration dates we all have somewhere within
our DNA. How do we stop it? How about we
first unify? How about we first unify and take comfort
(16:21):
that we have each other's back. And I think in
a way people are going to take comfort in some
odd way. I can't take comfort in it. I can't
(16:43):
take comfort that he's gone home to the Lord. It's
too early for him to go.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Home to the Lord.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
This killer ruined God from That is the point. Evil
ruins God's plans. It's not that God isn't there for us.
It's that evil ruins God's plans.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
And we have to wipe that out. We have to
wipe out that evil that now I feel.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Could be lurking on our shoulders and daisy every step
of the way. It feels like that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But let's work together.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
On preventing evil from ruining God's plan for us. And again,
it the that gun crowd is chiming in and rightfully
so here. But this has to do with the heart,
(18:07):
That's what it has to do with. There was someone
who've vehemianly disagreed with Charlie Kirk and decided to take
him out. That's not the America I know or was
raised in. We don't kill off political opponents. We have
(18:36):
public discourse, we have debates. I always say this country
was formed through debate. I always say, if the founding
(18:58):
fathers didn't debate to make it, we wouldn't be a
free country right now. But debate got us here two
hundred and forty nine years later, and I prayed debate
will still be alive and well to get us to
two hundred two years and beyond, because that's the only way.
(19:19):
If we hear each other, if we listen to each other,
not just hear each other, listen to each other.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Then yes, we can move forward.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We can get to the year two fifty m beyond.
As I think about this, Charlie Kirk was exercising what
the Founding Fathers built our country on. He held the
public square, and that public square should be accessible to.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
All, not one viewpoint.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
There have been so many colleges that cancel a quote
unquote right wing speaker. I remember that they had to
shut down the Schumer book tour when he agreed with
Trump to not close the government down. So it truly
lurks in both directions, the idea of being canceled, the
(20:26):
idea of.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Succumbing to.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
The woke bob, which Charlie I don't think ever did,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And so as I wrapped my head.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Around being affiliated, let me say this way, as I
wrapped my head around being on that same airwaves as
Charlie Kirk, and though trying to bring a very different
approach to the airway, whenever I get a chance to
be on, I asked myself, and I pray to myself,
(21:15):
pray to God, actually.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Pray to God, that.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I should still to tell me whether I should still
be speaking up or not, or whether I should go
behind the scenes. But that wouldn't be what Charlie Kirk
would want for anybody in the media world, and it
(21:48):
wouldn't be what my parents raised me to do. My
mom's a journalist. She wrote and wrote and wrote. My
dad listened to talk raative, listen to the public discourse.
That's how I got involved with all of this, and
If I were to shut up now, I'd be doing
(22:08):
a disservice, firstly to the fifty thousand people that have
thankfully downloaded, and to myself, and to what Charlie Kirk's
(22:31):
message is, which is, have the public discourse, have the debate,
have the conversation, so God bless it. Let's have it
nearly every day here at one look up Alex
Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I've needed a lot of time to process and decompress
and talk about the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. I
needed a lot of time to process and talk about
twenty four years since ninety eleven. And you know what
(00:28):
I'm taking comfort in right this moment is the Major
League Baseball logo that was rolled out the very first
anniversary of September eleventh, And they've put that logo on
the boards across America and across ballparks in America the
last twenty three years, and I think it's a reminder
(00:54):
that we can find comfort in baseball. It gave us
comfort in the fall of two thousand and one. We
can find comfort in the game of baseball that I
can't find comfort anywhere else because it's a homegrown feel.
It's an era where that Piazza homer on September twenty one,
(01:18):
two thousand and one, and then the Yankees magical run
in the World Series. Sure you would have wanted that
under your belt to make it a four peat, and
with everything going on following the terror attacks of September eleventh,
But as a nine year old watching that hole fall unfold,
(01:43):
and then a year later be at the anniversary of
nine to eleven where they put that logo on the
board against the Orioles. It brings me back to that
comfort of what baseball can do, how it can heal us.
And I'm common enough now thanks to this logo to
share with you how it feels. The fact of the
(02:05):
matter is, Charlie Kirk was a member of as you know,
I work on Salem.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Media Group and just a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Ago Mike Gallagher calling me a loyal employee of Sale Media.
I mean that's a SoundBite for the records. Well, Charlie
Kirk not only was a loyal employee to Salem Media,
he was out there doing public discourse. And yes, Ben
Shapiro does that too, but hitting the college campuses that
(02:36):
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Did year after year.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Like he did yesterday and was supposed to complete yesterday,
probably has impacted so many lives. He probably didn't realize it.
But then I think of the radio side more because
either before him when he was on twelve to two,
or after him, either on the Piscopo hours or the
(03:06):
Gallagher hours before he would be on, or after him
with Idella. I feel like I lost a radio brother
and a colleague because we did share those same airwaves
at different times. And whatever you believe or don't believe,
(03:27):
he would say he was a human being and the
way he was assassinated in cold blood is unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You can ask Ryan.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I was slamming the table four or five times yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Because of the heinousness of.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
This, the uneasy way someone for two hundred dollars yards
out could just kill a political opponent. And I've tried
to also think about the way this impacts my world,
(04:21):
because he and I are not too much older ages apart.
He was thirty one continuing to launch his Turning Point
USA even more and I'm thirty three, also working on launching.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And we make our livings. And Charlie made his living.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Opining, yes from the right side of things, but opining
about the news of the day, the culture of the day.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And he made his mark.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's why Phil Boyce brought him on here a few
years ago to Salem Media because he could see he
was making his mark at the time, and he influenced
so many.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
To vote for Trump. Yes, but he was an influencer.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And if you ever noticed his videos of public debate.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It seems that he was not.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Aggressive with the.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Debater, He was not.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Rude to them, let them talk, and then he would
take him to school a little bit, wouldn't he.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
On a wide array of subjects. But the bigger.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Question is what we still be able to have political
discourse after this clear, clear targeting, an assassination of a
political opponent took place.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's troubling.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I think it's podcaster and it's people on the air
in different capacities. We should all feel a comfort in
being able to express ourselves without intimidity, a feeling like
(07:10):
you be intimidated for it. That's the freedom of speech.
That is the first Amendment. We should be able to
live in a society where we can go to work
and not have to worry about being stabbed to death
(07:30):
on a Charlotte rail We should be able to go
to a Mitzvah truck and do our daily mitsva if
you are a Jewish person, without being intimidated for it,
without being circled by the vultures. And personally, I think
(07:56):
I should be able to walk out of my radio
studio after a long day of engineering and producing feeling
not a feeling about what a good day it was
and not having to look over my shoulder, Oh is
there a protesters or someone there the founder or address
on the website.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I mean, it's just run.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
A lot of thoughts through my head. And though I
cannot ascribe to all the views that Charlie Kirk has
talked about, that's the distinction someone I cannot ascribe to
(08:40):
all the views, I can say.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He stood firm in what he believed.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And probably you know it has changed so many lives
with those beliefs, and that should be celebrated. I was
calling Mike Gallagher today. It calls mean for Mike Gallagher.
Someone went on the air and said, you know, Charlie
brought me closer to God. That's a special call to
(09:21):
take right there. And so as someone who's originally behind
the scenes, was hired to be behind the scenes, only
getting more airtime since the really twenty two starting point
with the Episcopal Joe Piscopo show. Over the years and
(09:42):
in my health and now shake it off Martin Lucas,
I've thought about it a lot since this horrific assassination
of someone just two years younger than me. If they're
going to come after the up and coming thirty plus
(10:05):
year olds. Do I step behind the scenes or do
I just keep plugging along and talking about what's on
my heart every day? On one look up Alex Network.
(10:31):
See the whole point of the shooting was not just
to shoot and kill horrifically Charlie Kirk. It was the silence,
dissent and disagreement. But we should not let them silence us.
No matter what view you might have, you should be
(10:56):
able to freely express it. Look at how many and
people got me grup for this, but look how many
protests have really only gotten bad because people started skirmishes
(11:19):
with the cops, not really the other way around.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
We've seen videos.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Of screaming people protesters at cops. Cops really didn't do
anything unless it got physical. I've seen Fifth Avenue be
(11:46):
divided between pro Trump and anti Trump protests. Maybe the
key was across the street, but it didn't get violent.
They were able to expe rest themselves without harm or issue.
(12:10):
We need to get back to that discourse where yes,
you're gonna have two opposing sides.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And still.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Come out of it unscathed and maybe through the protesting
learn from each other, talk to each other. I wrote
this about nine to eleven, and I feel it's so
so important today. I said it was a tragic beginning
(12:54):
to the fall of two thousand and one. It however,
did show our resilience an underlying want to be unified.
And while I know tomorrow September twelve will go back
to arguing about today's world, let's work on unity instead
(13:16):
of division. It's what those who lost their lives on
September eleventh, two.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Thousand and one would want.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
How did we go from a Congress that's saying God
bless America in unison on the steps of the Capitol
to now a political opponent, a political dissident gunned down
(13:59):
in two shore a time. And I have often ascribed
to the idea that God has our time of return
home and his etched in us somewhere, we just.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Don't know it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But these acts of evil should not speed up God's
It should not speed up someone's expiration date. Let me
say that again. These acts of evil should not be
(14:43):
able to speed up someone's expiration date.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And what do I mean by that?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
If someone gets in their wonky head to gun down
someone they disagree with, they're not only killing a human life,
this case a husband and a dad of two. But
(15:19):
they are also ruining I feel, God's plan and cutting
it short, and yes, in the sense expediting the expiration date.
So how do we stop those from not only committing evil,
(15:41):
but from expediting expiration dates we all have somewhere within
our DNA. How do we stop it? How about we
first unify? How about we first unify and take comfort
(16:21):
that we have each other's back. And I think in
a way people are going to take comfort in some
odd way. I can't take comfort in it. I can't
(16:43):
take comfort that he's gone home to the Lord. It's
too early for him to go.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Home to the Lord.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
This killer ruined God from That is the point. Evil
ruins God's plans. It's not that God isn't there for us.
It's that evil ruins God's plans.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
And we have to wipe that out. We have to
wipe out that evil that now I feel.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Could be lurking on our shoulders and daisy every step
of the way. It feels like that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But let's work together.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
On preventing evil from ruining God's plan for us. And again,
it the that gun crowd is chiming in and rightfully
so here. But this has to do with the heart,
(18:07):
That's what it has to do with. There was someone
who've vehemianly disagreed with Charlie Kirk and decided to take
him out. That's not the America I know or was
raised in. We don't kill off political opponents. We have
(18:36):
public discourse, we have debates. I always say this country
was formed through debate. I always say, if the founding
(18:58):
fathers didn't debate to make it, we wouldn't be a
free country right now. But debate got us here two
hundred and forty nine years later, and I prayed debate
will still be alive and well to get us to
two hundred two years and beyond, because that's the only way.
(19:19):
If we hear each other, if we listen to each other,
not just hear each other, listen to each other.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Then yes, we can move forward.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We can get to the year two fifty m beyond.
As I think about this, Charlie Kirk was exercising what
the Founding Fathers built our country on. He held the
public square, and that public square should be accessible to.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
All, not one viewpoint.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
There have been so many colleges that cancel a quote
unquote right wing speaker. I remember that they had to
shut down the Schumer book tour when he agreed with
Trump to not close the government down. So it truly
lurks in both directions, the idea of being canceled, the
(20:26):
idea of.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Succumbing to.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
The woke bob, which Charlie I don't think ever did,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And so as I wrapped my head.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Around being affiliated, let me say this way, as I
wrapped my head around being on that same airwaves as
Charlie Kirk, and though trying to bring a very different
approach to the airway, whenever I get a chance to
be on, I asked myself, and I pray to myself,
(21:15):
pray to God, actually.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Pray to God, that.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I should still to tell me whether I should still
be speaking up or not, or whether I should go
behind the scenes. But that wouldn't be what Charlie Kirk
would want for anybody in the media world, and it
(21:48):
wouldn't be what my parents raised me to do. My
mom's a journalist. She wrote and wrote and wrote. My
dad listened to talk raative, listen to the public discourse.
That's how I got involved with all of this, and
If I were to shut up now, I'd be doing
(22:08):
a disservice, firstly to the fifty thousand people that have
thankfully downloaded, and to myself, and to what Charlie Kirk's
(22:31):
message is, which is, have the public discourse, have the debate,
have the conversation, so God bless it. Let's have it
nearly every day here at one look up Alex
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