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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Well, I've had about twenty four to forty
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eight hours to digest what happened yesterday at Annunciation Churches
Catholic School, and I want to highlight how the religious community,
the Catholic community, is coming together. I don't care what
politicians said yesterday. I mean, you might, but I want
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to know how the community is coming together, excluding the
elected leaders who just say what they feel they need
to say in a press conference when the cameras are on.
But did you know Pope Leo reacted to this horrific
shooting that had two kids shot dead and many injured.
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Pope Leo sent this telegram to the Archbishop of the
Annunciation Catholic Church, and his name is Archbishop Bernard had
Here's what the Pope wrote to this many Appolis church
and this Catholic community.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I was particularly pleased today to receive a message from
Pope Leo. If you'd bear with me, I'd like to
share that with you. It comes directly from Cardinal Pietro Pauline,
who's the Secretary of State, and it reads like this,
His Holiness, Pope Leo the fourteenth was profoundly saddened to
learn of the loss of life and injuries following the
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shooting that took place at Annunciation Church in Minneapolis, and
he sends his heartfelt condolences and the assurance of spiritual
closeness to all those affected by this terrible tragedy, especially
the families now grieving the loss of a child, while
commending the souls of the deceased children to the love
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of Almighty God His Holiness praise for the wounded, as
well as the first responders, medical personnel, and clergy who
are caring for them and their loved ones at this
extremely difficult time. The Holy Father imparts to the Annunciation
Catholic School community, the Archdiocese of Saint Paul Minneapolis, and
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the people of the Greater Twin Cities metropolitan area his
apostolic blessing as a pledge of peace, fortitude, and consolation
in the Lord Jesus, my brothers and sisters. That gives
me some hope. We know that the Holy Father, Pope
Leo did his hospital training right here in Minneapolis, so
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he knows our community, and he's been reminding anybody visiting
from Minnesota that he spent some time here. Were very
grateful for his blessing, but I like those who have
spoken before, ask that you would continue to think look
for those ways of supporting those who have been impacted today,
not only with your prayers but also with your action.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Ken prayer is much needed during this time, and prayers
needed every day. I don't care what anybody says on
the left the right. Prayer is always needed. But for
the Pope to be the Pope and to write that
letter and to be in tune with his congregation in Minneapolis,
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it struck a chord. It shows that this pope, and yeah,
you could say Francis was, but this Pope has a
humility about it that I feel we needed in the
Vatican and as a world, and I think Pope Leo
has brought that humility to the Vatican. Now. Interesting enough,
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I was doing a test on one of our boards
and this came up. A pediatric doctor, Mark Erlick had
this to say in Congress earlier today.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
My name is doctor Mark Urleck. I'm a pediatric emergency
medicine physician, and I want to start by acknowledging the
grief of all the children and families at Assumption Church.
Every single one of them was assaulted and traumatized yesterday.
Everyone in that community. And I also want to acknowledge
the folks in the EMS system and a head up
in health and a Children's Minnesota who took care of
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those patients, because I know from my twenty five years
of practicing pediatric emergency medicine that when you have seen
a small body that has been mutilated by bullets, you
do not easily or ever get over that. And all
the more so because we all know it is entirely preventable.
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Since twenty twenty, when gun injury became the leading cause
of death for children in the United States, since then,
we have been saying that we are any public health crisis,
and we are, but too often we are putting the
emphasis on the word crisis instead of.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
On the word health.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
This is a health issue. This is not a criminal
justice issue or policing issue. This is not a constitutional
law issue. This is not a moral issue. It is
a health issue. You children are being injured and killed.
They're being injured and killed by bullets coming out of
guns fired by people in a social context, and a
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public health issue requires a public health approach. Centuries of
public health research and experience tells us that we have
to address all of those factors in this case, starting
with the lethality of the gun and the bullet.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Now that's where he lost me a little bit, because
I believe this was also a very much so mental
health issue that led the killer behind holding the gun
to do it. But the first part of this I
want to play again because I have not heard this
whole news cycle really about the impact this is having
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on the kids.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
My name is doctor Mark orl like. I'm a pediatric
emergency medicine physician, and I want to start by acknowledging
the grief of all the children and families at Assumption Church.
Every single one of them was assaulted and traumatized yesterday,
everyone in that community. And I also want to acknowledge
the folks in the EMS system and a head up
in health and a Children's Minnesota who took care of
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those patients. Because I know for my twenty five years
of practicing pediatric emergency medicine that when you have seen
a small body that has been mutilated by bullets, you
do not easily or ever get over that. And all
the more so because we all know it is entirely preventable.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Now, of course, I am not all pro gun to
a raw ride already have one. I do believe in
background checks, but if we can just take a moment
and think about the kids that were affected. One of
them said that their friend fell on top of them
to take the bullet. If we can have the compassion
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for the kids and put away the politics for one
damn minute, that's how we come together. That's how we
have one leg up over this tragedy is by removing
the politics and thinking of the kids, thinking of the parents,
and yes, thinking of the EMS workers that doctor Erlick
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was mentioning. But if we continually every news cycle debate
about the guns and the lethality of the bullet, but
not focused on that first part, then we will not
get anywhere in this And I hate to say debate,
because it shouldn't be a debate of how to protect
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our kids. Everybody should agree that background checks are necessary.
Everyone should agree that if someone is mentally off, they
should not have a gun. And of course I believe
that those who are in uniform should be able to
carry so that they can protect the zones. If that
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off duty NYPD officer was able to be armed at
three forty five Park Avenue, which I don't think he was,
he would be here today. But no, that gun free
zone and you can talk about the averagism, but I mean,
if they're a law enforcement there, they should be able
to have weaponry to defend against this. I mean when
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I first heard about this horrible shooting in Minneapolis, I
thought of it all day and how the police left,
there were doors open, and the shooter got right in
and it was just a failure on every part. This
doesn't seem to be the case, but there is a trauma.
And I don't think we should be desensitized to this
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because I feel like I didn't hear many New York
people talking about this on Facebook, or I didn't hear
many people really complained about the shooting unless you really
knew what happened. So are we becoming desensitized now to
all of these things? My colleague Ashley talk about the
active shooter drills like kids go through every damn day
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at different schools. Started, I mean we have become desenditized. No,
we shouldn't become desenditized. We should find a common ground
and for one minute after these horrible tragedies happen, we
think about the victims and the injured. I guess they're
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one of the same. But the fatalities and the injured,
and how we can protect and the survivors, and how
we can protect people moving forward. But to go around
in circles and talk about what Jacob Fries said, it
just it doesn't feel like accomplished anything. It just beats
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everybody down when we should really come together. We should
be like Pope Leo sending that letter in the most
gracious way and most humble way. That is where we
should focus the spirituality of this and yes, the human heart,
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because if we can help one community heal, we can
help another community prevent it from happening to them. Let
me say that again. If we have one community heal
from this tragedy, we can help another community defend against us.
You know why, because we'll have solutions through healing instead
of just the back and forth, the not the babbling,
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but the outright forgetfulness of who should really be highlighted.
To have one leg up for these communities, we have
to rally around them, not argue in front of them.
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And of course if we don't learn, we can never heal,
and mistakes will be repeated. And so let's heal. Let's
not be divisive. These were kids that got shot. These
were parents that were running to the scene to see
if their kid was okay. And what do we do
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to say we are here with you. We start debating
the gun issue all over again. That's not how we
should be. We should be in healing mode because one
more time, if we can heal this community through this tragedy,
I think we can come to solutions where another tragedy
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is prevented for another community in America. On one leg
up Alec