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Here's your host, Alex Garrett. All right, well, I have
not been able to react to the debate between Curtis
Zoron and Cuomo, but I have to say this. I
have to say this. If the polling shows Cuomo is
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lower than before the first debate, my prediction here on
one look up Alex News before the second debate is
that Cuomo will drop out. That's just a hunch. I
feel that he will be able to He will say Okay,
maybe I don't have a pathway, and he will leave
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it up to Curtis Versusmumdanni. That's maybe I don't know
if it's wish well thinking, but that's what my subconscious
tells me. And that's what I'm telling you here on
one look up Alex. But there was one topic that
I really wanted them to talk about because here at Hellgate,
I'm reading about the Hellgate NYC article. New York City
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judges have a tool to help them rule on pre
trial detention. Why are they ignoring it to make racially
skewed decisions? That's what Nick Pinto writes at the decision
to ignore release recommendations for black defendants, and You're gonna
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be surprised with my thoughts on this after I'm done
with this commentary, but the story goes reducing the number
of people locked up pre trial in New York City
jails over the first two decades of this century was
made it possible to contemplate closing Rikers Island and replacing
it with a smaller, more humane, pro based jails. Clearly,
this is a leftist, uh left leaning outlet and a
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left leaning article, but I want to read on because
I want to know more about the try of the tool.
The city's Criminal Justice Agency has a statistical instrument extremely
good at predicting whether someone will come back to court,
and here's my thought on that. Why can't judges use
that instrument to actually make sure those who do not
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and are not going to come back to court for
their trial. You might think I'm hard to say this,
but why don't they use it to lock up the
convicted instead of let them out before their trial. The
problem with bail reform is that this trial pre trial
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stuff leads to convicted felons out on the street because
they won't come back to court, and the wishful thinking
of these judges to have them come back to court
release them, but maybe another crime or to what we committed.
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So I think this instrument should be used. And this
Hellgate NYC laments that they're locking up people who are
likely to make the next court date on their own. Well,
I think judges don't want to take a chance. They
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don't want to take a chance. That's that's what it is.
And I applaud the judges that aren't willing to take
a chance that someone will come back to court, because
I say, in the meantime, ten or more crimes could
be committed in the interim, So why shouldn't the judges
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use these tools to actually keep our cities safe. Helgate
NYC judges are deviating from the recommendations of the tool
more for black and Hispanic people. Mean that even though
judges have racially a neutral mechanism for considering pretrid attention,
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they're choosing to lock up people of color disproportionately anyway.
In cases with violent felony charges where the assessment that
instrument recommends that someone be released, judges are setting bail
black people at a rate fifty one percent greater than
for white people. Low rates of judg audicial alignment study show,
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especially when the tool recommends are producing both accessively and
racially inequitable use of supervision bailing attention. Look to the
judges that don't listen to this tool, I commend them.
Why should a violent felony charge be released on their
own cognizance when they could literally commit another crime two
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or three times. I didn't know this tool existed till
hell Get, NYC. But I don't mind it because if
judges were to release everyone before their trial need, the
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city would be less safe Holgate, NYC. That's right, the
city would be less safe. So I think judges, and
why I mentioned should be part of the debate is
this should be a question to all their candidates. Do
you believe that someone who has a violent criminal record
should be released before their trial and not locked up?
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And Zorn would probably say absolutely, and Cuomo and Curtis
might waiver, But I think Cuomo would sort of do this,
that and the other dance around the question, and I
think Saliva would be very hardcore about the answer. But
that's the question. Do you believe a violent felon, regardless
of color, should be let out before their trial and
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hopes they don't come in another crime again? Howgate NYC.
I hope that they're locked up before their trial so
they don't have another chance to commit a crime or
two or ten before their trial date. Call me harsh,
call me whatever, racially skewed, but this will go for anybody.
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The problem with Bell Reform was that these criminals were
back out on the street before their trial, were let
out too early. And look what's happened. Look what's happened now.
I like the Curtis and then I hit Cuomo on
the Bell Reform, saying he was the governor that did it.
It's true, it's very much true. But of course Cuomo
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said that's not me, blah blah blah. I tried to
deny it. But if they're gonna if there's a tool
out there that judges have to go by, then I
hope judges use the tool wisely, but also go with gut.
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It's almost like analytics. Analytics supposed to tell you if
a person's gonna come back to court when the judge
might know they're sitting in front of the judge having
committed of a violent felon, and we're supposed to be
upset that they're locked up. No, no, no, that's not
the city that what I grew up in. That's not
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the world we grew up in. We shouldn't be upset
or lamenting the fact that someone who's convicted with a
violent felony, especially is locked up before their trial. They
need to be because there's a very good chance it
could happen again and again and again, and under Mamdani
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we would have misdemeanors instead of violent felony charges. He
would really lower the sentencings system or whatever you want
to call it, from felony to misdemeanor. That's a problem
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that we have to avoid. So judges that are using
the tool and still going with their instinct, I love it,
they need to do more of that. We have to
take into consideration pre trout the tension when it comes
to violent felonies specifically, and for how get NYC and
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other activists to lament that just shows they want more
crime in NYC. But it's good to know how the
other side thinks, isn't it. It's good to see the
other side writes about this, isn't it? Because that's what
we're going to be getting if we don't alert people
to hey, this is out the left is thinking right
now then how will we be able to affect change
in the election. We won't be. So I do believe
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that someone's convicted of a crime or arrested and sentenced
however you want to say it, and then released back
on the street. It's a mistake. It's a mistake. And
so thank you hellgated in m I say, for existing
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to show how you the guys think over there. I
just don't agree with you on that, but I'll still
talk to your notifications because I want to hear how
you guys are thinking. It's very interesting some of the
stuff you guys have, But on this one, on this one,
pre trial detention is always necessary so that they don't
go out and commit crimes before they're actual trolley And
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that's all I gotta say on that. You're one look
at Alex were a couple of weeks away from election,
and just know if this is how one article thinks,
there's a whole swath of people that think like that
among Donnie's trying to get their vote, and you have
to be again the pole in the whole craziness and say, well, no,
pre trial detention is necessary for violent criminals. We don't
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want them back out on the street before their trial,
committing ten or more crimes. That's how we've gotten to
the disaster in the first place.