Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:04):
Good afternoon to everyone and everyone againwith you, your friend Mr Quan to
(00:32):
continue talking about issues of the present, the past and probably the future,
in this podcast, in this chapter. We are going to continue to talk
about this subject that is important tome that we started recently, that we
(00:54):
already have eight chapters talking about it. Now this is the ninth, speaking
on the subject of Cuba, ofits problems and after all, the mistakes
that have been made from both sides, the Government of Cuba, its intentions
to achieve some improvements that end indisillusionment for people, the way to do
(01:19):
so and, on the other hand, and even if many people want to
recognize the tremendous influence that the inhumanaggressive policy and the absurdity of the United
States against the Cuban Government based ondoing harm to reverse the support of the
(01:47):
people process to the Government and achieveits objective. That has to be clear,
and for me it is very clear, but for many people it is
not clear yet, even though allthe evidence and all the facts prove it.
As I say and always repeat sothat there is no doubt, the
(02:09):
United States has no friends, nointerest in well- being, no interest
in democracy, no interest in anythingother than defending its own interests and imposing
what it believes to be its right. That for me is a concrete,
irrefutable fact that is demonstrated through historyand through the current United States as a
(02:31):
hegemonic power. Now we have talkedabout the mistakes of both sides. First,
America, with its infinite arrogance ofwanting to impose everything they believe,
which is beneficial to them, withoutlooking at the problems and catastrophe and educating
(02:53):
around the world. And the otheris the illusions, sometimes a little romantic,
on which Cuba has laid its countryproject. I think without being,
as I say, an expert economist, nor an expert political scientist, or
(03:16):
any of that, but through myvital experience, as I say to you,
that although the Cuban government has managedto put itself quite effectively to the
desire of the United States to controlCuba in order to do with it the
same thing it has done with therest of Latin America, to put the
(03:39):
governments that it seems to them tosell the country, to establish its kind
of so- called democracy, towhich they already refer as what is like
a ridiculous circus, where it isdemocracy while winning the candidates they support,
when they do not win the candidates, which they do not support, to
(04:00):
be muc and become dictatorships in theworld. Doctor three. And this is
another point, that there are lotsof people in the networks who talk about
dictatorships and regimes as they like tosay and they don' t have a
second to think about where all thathollow, cheap talk comes from. For
(04:23):
them it is nice because it settlesthem, because it makes them part of
the great majority of cretins, becausethey are creative, illustrated or unillustrated or
not, that they join that current, which is the domination of powerful countries
(04:43):
over poor countries, over countries thatcan dodge their resources, to countries that
can plunder and to countries that cancontrol to impose their designs. Sometimes I
get a little philosophical about this andthere are a lot of people who don
' t like philosophy, of course, because, as I said, the
(05:09):
human being has, is a livingbeing, is a biological being and biology
is based on the survival of thatorganism and thinking, using the brain,
actually using it not to see nonsenseon social networks that so many years have
(05:30):
done for control and control. Atthe same time. I mean, a
lot of things and that' sproven, I don' t say.
I investigate many of the things thatgo viral, as we say or as
it is normally said, that becomevery popular on the Internet, are made
(05:55):
and are Video and are Post arevery well thought to go viral and who
thinks how to make them vile thosewho control the information. It' s
not a theory that this is somethingto say about illuminati or something like that
(06:20):
about compilation. And no, no, it' s not like that.
Algorithms are created for people to seewhat companies own those algorithms want you to
see. Already in two thousand two, if I am not bad there was
(06:41):
the tremendous scandal of Cambridge analytics,a company that manipulated networks on a global
scale. There was a scandal becausethe articles came out that they were working
hard to promote coups, the veryfamous revolutions of colors to manipulate elections.
(07:12):
And it wasn' t and isn' t a company created by the Russians
or communist peoples, as they liketo say to the order of idiots who
live talking about communisms and the leftand the right and things no no.
(07:33):
The ones in control of these arethe banks and are the international financial centers
that control all the media. So, according to what you, who go
viral, the first thing you haveto do is suspect why it goes viral,
especially when it has to do witha political or economic socio- issue.
(07:57):
Why you look at yourself again.Why the Cambridge- to- analytical
scandal only lasted a few days inthe press and above all an alternative press.
Why was no one imprisoned for fraud, for manipulating elections, for creating
(08:18):
bullies, for putting false news intothe networks, for making trolet farms why
he didn' t go to anyone. That' s why analytics just changed
the name Cambrise. Analytics continues toexist, it continued to exist in England
(08:43):
and no one in this world hasmade a scandal about it nor has said
that the English have to be blockedbecause they are doing it. They are
using propaganda, They are using propagandato manipulate elections, to benefit certain companies,
(09:03):
because those candidates, in these sofree democracies, in these wonderful democracies,
so representative of Greek classical democracy,all these, these people who are
candidates, are elected by companies thathave interests and that those people who are
(09:30):
elected, when elected, will representand defend not the interests of the people.
They represent the interests of the companiesthat choose them, the ones that
give them the funds, the onesthat pay companies like Cambrige analytics or like
Facebook or like Google to position themon the networks, so they make them
(09:54):
believe that they are really popular orthat they actually have a new proposal and
they disguise it and promote it Andpeople who don' t think it'
s the great majority. Unfortunately,as someone once said, the problems are
not that there are idiots, butthat there are so many who can elect
a president. So that' shappening around the world. And I believe
(10:20):
that in the Cuban case, inthe Cuban case, that I am moving
away a little bit from the issue, the Cuban case, the Government,
as I said, has had acertain support and curbing the desire of the
United States to control the people orthe country over the Cuban people. But
(10:43):
it has failed, it has failedand enough to make people part of that
success, not only in saying thatpeople endure and endure all the sanctions,
all the restrictions, all the measuresthat are to cause hardship to that people,
(11:03):
to cause hardship to people on foot, to make people disillusion, to
make people confront each other. Theyhaven' t been good at that.
And I think that dialogue has tocome between the high levels of government and
(11:26):
about the people and between the people, and it has to come to the
understanding that if people feel part ofthe triumph, of that resistance, that
what they do really exists, defeatsa powerful enemy, things can change and
a lot. I know. Iam Cuban, I know that Cuban also
(11:50):
as an islander, who have apeculiar islander from everywhere, have a peculiar
way of thinking because of their islandstatus. If the Cuban Government, taking
more appropriate measures, more in linewith reality, truly frees up once and
(12:16):
for all as many times as theyare going to liberate unleashing the productive forces
with these more than measures, inthe end everything ends up in the same
thing. Why, because it's not, it makes people share in
feeling a real part of that triumphover such an overwhelming force that it'
s America' s hegemonic power.People have to feel that it is they
(12:43):
too who are winning, not byholding on. No one likes that for
me. People have to feel thatthey are also struggling that they are effectively
defending themselves, that they are accomplishingsomething with that daily resistance of every day,
not simply waiting to see what thegovernment says. Oh, look,
(13:07):
what the government says. The Governmentsays it' s going to be an
agreement now. Let' s saywith China, they' re going to
do such or such a thing withRussia or how they' re going to
do such or such a thing withVenezuela. No. No, no,
that' s not the point,because they continue to centralize, they continue
(13:28):
to hold accountable a small group ofpeople within Cuba who represent the national and
regional provincial governments. Or as itis organized, only people see the town.
When I say people the people,they see that group of people as
responsible for solving problems. And that' s a mistake. That' s
(13:54):
a mistake. Tremendo I think theyhave to change that and there has to
be tremendous reflection, deep repression,as if it has to take a month
everyone, reflecting on the networks,on television, on the radio, speaking
voice, not giving them bo oropportunity. To those who, from Miami
(14:18):
or from Spain or from any othercountry, are the ones who talk the
most about the solutions that can existin Cuba, because it is rare to
see inside Cuba a person on foot, not an opponent or a revolutionary colta
or something, but a people onfoot talking and saying what the solutions are.
(14:41):
The plain people, the people whoclash in the day- to-
day with the difficulties, are theones who have to know. I'
m the ones who have to saythey' re the ones who really have
to debate and not like he alwayssays we don' t have to use
it. You have to use thecorresponding tracks. Bureaucracy in Cuba never worked.
(15:01):
Never. The bureaucracy is a wall, it is a wall between people,
between problems and between those who cansolve it. Then that must be
eliminated. The exchange of ideas hasto be active, it has to be
alive, it has to be bilateral. The Minister, who is the one
who has the recourse, has tolisten to the one who knows how to
(15:22):
do things better, because it isshown that a little people do not think
better than many people. Let's do something different. Let' s
do something different. For example,I have read that in India, when
there are problems, it is doneas a storm of ideas from the whole
country and the best ideas are analyzed. They are drawn from these best ideas
(15:46):
then analyzed by group of experts and, above all, by people. I
know that Cuba' s difficulties aregreat, but the solutions are there.
There' s nothing impossible. Ithink the che said that the impossible only
take a little longer than what wasdifficult had to be done now. Then
(16:10):
you have to do the attack onwhat people think is impossible. People believe
that it is impossible to improve livingconditions in Cuba. But yes, I
know that there are people from Cubathen with enormous talent, with wonderful ideas.
Let us make the participants, butdo not participate in a meeting or
(16:32):
in an assembly that what comes outlater in public is what no one knows,
at least, because the press inCuba is also another topic to deal
with. One has to turn fromencoder to read the press in Cuba,
because they do not know, ordo not want or cannot provide the full
(16:56):
information. And that' s ridiculous, because if they say in the end
that the basis of the revolution orthe basis of the Cuban system and socialism
is the people, the people haveto know everything, because if they don
' t know it by the officialpress, you' re going to know
(17:18):
it by the Internet press, bythe alternative media used by those who I
said at the beginning used it bythe United States, use it all their
acolytes and you give it, theirong to create all that stupid people'
s fauna and to put it bluntly, they' re not all, but
(17:41):
they' re the majority for allthat fame of motherfuckers who have been living
for years from the suffering of theCuban people. So we have to keep
them quiet, we have to showthat there is the courage, that of
dialogue, that of truth, thatmust be done. And if they don
' t, then they' regiving more gas to all those whores and
(18:03):
whores that all they' ve everdone is ask for sanctions and form supposed
parties to live the whole life ofthe story and the suffering and distress of
Cubans. I hope that those wholisten to this will analyze and reflect,
because I think that is the work. Now is the time, already to
(18:26):
begin to make a real cohesion betweenthose who can decide and those who know
what the solutions are. They're the people in town, they'
re the people who walk to thestreet, they' re the people who
go to the store. It's the people who go through a job
to catch a guagua, or it' s the people who go to the
(18:47):
way if they don' t findmedicine. I repeat, the talent in
Cuba is, as we Cubans say, like the verdolaga. The least you
think has an amazing solution to aproblem. Then let' s give that
talent some air. We' regonna be proud of that. We'
(19:10):
re going to let people really exposethe ideas. We' re going to
let people feel part of beating thesegentlemen, bombed, mugged, and murdered
democracies of the president. Let's get some of that. That'
(19:30):
s too bad. I know thetask isn' t easy, but it
can be done well. Thank youall very much. I hope you like
this podcast and then we' llcontinue with this topic. Thank you very
much and I' ll see yousoon.