12/26/24 - Christmas Horror

To wrap up the season, tonight we will be discussing our favorite Christmas horror movies. Join in the live chat to add your own and participate in the discussion! Movies discussed, in no particular order:
Silent Night, Deadly Night (1984)
Krampus (2015)
Rare Exports (2010)
Black Christmas (1974)
Gremlins (1984)
P2 (2007)
There's Something in the Barn (2023)

Honorable mentions to:
Jack Frost (1987) NOT the Michael Keaton one
Santa's Slay (2005)
Elves (Netflix series - 2021)

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 4 (01:03):
Hey everybody, we're all grooving over here to the eighties music, right.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
It makes me want a jazzer side the pseudo What
is it? Pseudo?

Speaker 6 (01:16):
What did you depeche mode? Pseudo depeche Mode?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, I think I had asked for depeche Mode, but
I mean, okay, So if you've watched American Horror Story
nineteen eighty four, the intro music to that is like
the most badass like intro music, I think, And if
I could just joink that intro music, I would because
it's like the best and part of it is like

(01:39):
a jazzer size, like there's a flash of some like
a jazzer sized class, of course, because it was.

Speaker 7 (01:47):
The thing to do.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Oh yeah, I remember fifth grade, we had a teacher's
aid and she was a jazzer sized teacher, Miss Brown.
I remember her. She was all about the jazzer size
and the guys were all about Miss Brown. You know.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
We had a there, we had a waitress that when
I was bouncing, and she was one of these very
very eighties like leg warmer, you know, little tennise wearing
the whole black what did they call it? H Were

(02:30):
they not jazzers out? Yeah? Aerobics, Yeah, aerobics. She was
all this, you know, all kinds of this aerobic That's
how she looked and she dressed and when she would dance,
she looked like she was doing aerobics.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Was she doing the whole like arms swinging like body like?

Speaker 7 (02:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
That was that was a dance.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
That was a dance, the total heel step, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
And I remember that danced too. I was great to dance.
I was super embarrassed, like I was so self conscious.
I was the most shy child in the world. As
a teenager, I was you would not recognize me. I
was so shy.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Yes, Tina, like Jane find to workout. Yeah, that's exactly
what she looked at. She was like five or eleven.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
Oh my gosh, it's like.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Gumby dancing out on the floor.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
She was tall for a woman, and she should have
been blonde. She wasn't, but she should have been.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
What are you saying.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
She was a little ditchy.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Okay, it's making sure that's the direction you were going with.
It should have been blonde, but she wasn't. Said she
was doing a disservice to us brunettes saying maybe yeah, okay, anyway,
you know, was the translator. Uh So, how was everybody's Christmas?

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Mom was good, got you ollow kids that very rarely
happens to get them all down here at one time, and.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
You know, had a.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
Just a nice, non drama family Christmas. Yeah it was nice.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Sweet How about you, Joe?

Speaker 5 (04:37):
It was good. Guys the same here and got all
my kids together and grandkids, so there was a good
twelve of us in the house at one point.

Speaker 8 (04:50):
And in same same with leg Withoo Texas saying it
is drama.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Free usually my daughter it's mainly my daughter's man they
they start poking at each other and then before you
know it, as the hours passed, and then it's like
and I'm like, dude, it's Christmas. Quit talking like that.
Any three hundred and sixty four days out of the year,
y'all can that's to the high heavens. I don't care,

(05:14):
but you know, you know it's a Christmas man, come on.
But I didn't have to get it, didn't go there.
It was it was actually, you know, very peaceful and serena.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
It was nice.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, youngest kid made out like a freaking bandit dude,
switche and yeah, because he's the only non adult child,
so he's basically almost like an only child and a
ginger spoils the crap out of him. So he probably
collected more more gifts than I got through the entire

(05:49):
nineteen eighties.

Speaker 8 (05:53):
Oh my gosh, electronic drum set and oh but the
worst one.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (06:01):
He loves rocks.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
He's a little kiddy, the rocks in his pocket. He
loves It's the thing. So Jim got him a rock
sweet Yeah that's twenty four hours of the most noise.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah yeah, I have one. Yeah yeah, yeah, we got
that for Lucas a while ago. It is. Yeah, it's
something you want in the other room, that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
I know. We we bought.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
We bought my my grandson. We found it. It's a
magic trick set, you know, learn to do magic. And
I think and when we bought it, I'm like, we're
gonna be then he's gonna be magic tricking all that long, right,
everybody you know, put I pick a car or whatever,

(06:58):
you know. I'm like, oh boy, he unwraps it.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
What is this.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
It's it's a box little matter tricks. Oh cool, never
heard about it. I'm like, okay, But he got very
excited about the lightsabers that we that have got.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
So lightsaber yeah yeah, yeah, Now that one of the
coolest ones that that Jaden got and and they used
to have them back in the back in our day too,
but now they're just so much cooler. Is one of
those it's kind of like a little circuit board and

(07:42):
you can put the resistors and l e ed lights
and you make different projects have of them. But now
they've gotten them so down that they're like they double
snap on top of each other. So it goes not
just on a flatboard, but it also goes I guess horizontally,

(08:02):
so it'll be like this one goes on level two,
you know, across to this, you know. And so like
we sat around and made like a bunch of uh
little circuits that did like voice detection stuff like that
so you can talk and the LED blinks while you talk,
and teaching them about electronics and stuff like that. So yeah, right, exactly, Yeah,

(08:31):
no doubt. But it just blew my mind, how you know,
because the ones that we had, they were they'd take
you all day to do one circuit, you know what
I mean. You know, you'd be sitting there frustrated. And
this is like almost like comic book styles like snap
our four into you know, on top of R three

(08:52):
and over to a two piece bridge you know, and
then back up to the battery pack or whatever. You know.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
Yeah, with ours, you could almost mistakenly build a nukeiar
reactor out of them.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
This Christmas was weird for me. I did not feel
it at all. Wasn't feeling it wasn't and I just
I don't know if it's age, I don't know, I
don't know what it is, but you know, the last
few years, I just am struggling to feel it, Like
I put the decorations up, I do everything you know

(09:32):
necessary for Lucas. It's hollow on my part. I'm just
throwing it up there. But I mean it's it comes
and it goes, and it's like another day for me.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Well, but this year kind of had a good reason though,
I mean, because you had a lot of you get
a lot of stuff going on personally.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah, well, I mean it's it's a pretty crappy timmy
Er anyway. I mean, you know, my father passed away
on the thirtieth of December, so that looms, and then
Riley on the seventh of January. So like going into
the Christmas season, it's not like real front in my mind,
but I find that I get depressed anyway. Yeah, so
I struggle with that regardless, you know, for the last

(10:16):
you know, since twenty ten, right, so however went fourteen years.
You know, it's been a struggle that you know, I've
gotten passed it in the past, but like the last
few years, I'm just like, you just get this over
with exactly. I'm like, just doesn't feel like it, but

(10:37):
you know, when it comes and goes, and then once
it's done, I'm like, oh, it's gone. Like I feel
like I miss like I missed the train, Like I
feel like I missed something because I just didn't get
into it even though I try, I just didn't. And
I just I feel like total foma, like I totally missed.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
Out on it.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Get I went through that. I went through that for
a couple of years, like kind of phone it in
and you know, it's just like just go through the motions.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
And you know, I don't want to because I like
this time of year generally, you know, I like I
like making it special for Lucas, like you know, you
saw the pictures, Like I do my house up Lucas.
You know, I do everything that I can. I try
to make it special for him and Chris and everybody
that comes over because I host Christmas and Thanksgiving.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
This year was just like me, oh my gosh. Then right,
so I bought all this food, I got everything ready.
Everybody's supposed to come over to my house. They did.
They showed up right Christmas morning. I made Christmas Breakfast
like I always do. All right, everybody's opening gifts. I
get up, I start making preparations. We're going to eat

(11:52):
it two o'clock because my friend has to drive back
down to Houston, so I want to make sure we
eat in time for him to get on his way.
And then my daughter, one of my daughters, and my
mother in law and Lucas typically go to my husband's
uncle's house right in aunt an uncle's house after our house,

(12:12):
so I'm like, we need to eat early because they
need to head on over to cup Hell where these
people live. So I was making everything. My friend splits
before I'm done cooking, right, yes, and then my my daughter, Lauren,
my you know, youngest daughter, She's like, I'm just gonna leave.
She just like haul's ass. The oldest daughter, like her

(12:35):
and her boyfriend show up in the morning for presents
and breakfast, and then they leave, like disappear for a
few hours, and then they reappear like right before it's
time to eat lunch, and then you know, like dissolve
it like disappear Like this is jacked up. Now, I
don't want to cook for any y'all.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Right, Yeah, I'm grateful ship.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Made this giant poddle wossle. I made this, like yeah,
I mean I didn't even drink. I should have been drinking.
I didn't even drink.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
That's half the problem, right, would have been a.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Lot more festive and probably less annoyed if I'd had
some alcohol.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
An old series Christmas catalog at my mom's house. I
can't believe we had real chemistry sets for kids.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Oh yeah, like actual chemicals. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Now it's it's actually the last two years, all three
of them, Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas, Like it snuck up
on me so fast that I didn't have time to
you know, get in the Christmas mood. And so like
every December, from December first to after New Year's in

(13:58):
my car, I said, my my entire playlist on nothing
but Christmas songs to try to usher in the feeling.
And yeah, I just just find myself just zoned out,
driving back and forth to work, not even paying attention.
I don't know, I just it just didn't it didn't feel,
you know. Last year was like that too, Like even Halloween.

(14:21):
I was like, oh, yeah, it's Halloween, and usually I'm like, oh, yeah, Halloween.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
But I don't know what it is.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
I'm starting to buy that conspiracy that time is moving
faster than it should. I don't know if y'all heard
that one. Mm hmmm, yeah, it's it's it's all. It's
since we're in the new timeline that it's actually like
shaving slices of time off, so a month feels like

(14:52):
three weeks instead of a month.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Now, I figured it's just because I'm old in times
getting faster. Grim reapers just spin the clock up for me.
That's what I figured. He's sitting there like wind the
clock up. TikTok tic toc tic toc tik.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Talk.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
I want to have you on. I want to have
you on the porch and talk about flat Earth.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Okay, I mean, I'll talk about it. I don't try
to convince anybody anymore. I did, like the first I
don't know, five or six years that I was into it.
I'd be like, all right, look, blah blah blah blah,
you know, and and and try to go off on it.
I no longer do that. And there's a couple of

(15:43):
reasons why. It's because a lot of the sources that
you can pendpoint uh, they're just they're.

Speaker 8 (15:51):
They're embarrassing to to the whole culture.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Like I was.

Speaker 8 (15:55):
I was watching this one.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Dude today and like everything he okay, So like one
of the instances, right, they'll have like, okay, the Sun's
in the firmament and blah blah blah, and they'll they'll
show you know, drones or not drones, but balloons going

(16:17):
up and they'll show the flat earth and the sun
way above it. And then you have ones where they're like,
look it's proof and you can see the sun and
you can see clouds in front of it and clouds
behind it. They're like they're resting in the clouds. I
was like, well, wake up, make your damn mind up,
because it can't be both, you know, kind of what

(16:38):
we were talking about with the size of the Earth
in the moon landings versus other pictures of it. It's
like it can't be either the size of a quarter
or the size of a half dollar. It's gonna have
to be you know, uniform. So that's that's part of it.

(17:01):
But uh, mine mainly is I stopped looking at what
Oz and doctrinated with and just started looking with my
own eyes and just going, okay, yeah, that doesn't make sense.
You know, if mercury is in between us and the sun,

(17:21):
how do we see it at night? You know, like
stuff like that. I'm like, wait a minute, it's in
between us and the sun. How am I seeing it
way out here? If the sun's way back there, you know,
then that means that it's not in between us and
the sun. You know, stuff like that. But that's just me,

(17:42):
and you know I'm not I'm one of them people
who I believe until you actually know. You know, you
don't really know, so you can't go. It's just a
belief system, right Like if it's not happening in this house,
I don't know. I don't even know if there's a

(18:03):
real government, other than the fact that they take my money.
You Like, I can see all the TV I want,
But that don't mean it's it's proof. When I was
a kid, I was actually thinking about this when I
was a kid, You know how they would they would
an elementary they'd ask you, and they're conditioning you for

(18:25):
whether something is a fact or.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
An opinion, right, or you know what I mean, the
factory opinion.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Right. They'd be like, but the things that trip me
up were the ones that I didn't know was a fact.
So it'd be like, fact, the world is you know,
seventy five percent water? And or is that an opinion?
And I'd be like well, I don't know if it's

(18:55):
you know, that's what I'm told, But do I know? So?
Do I know that as a fact, So I would
I'd always get hung up on those kind of questions.
So I guess that's where it lies.

Speaker 9 (19:07):
In my nugget, you know, Okay, sure, yeah, but yeah,
I mean I'm down to talk about it.

Speaker 8 (19:18):
I'm going to talk about it.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
I just don't debate it, you know, like that's just it.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
I don't want to debate it. I want to ask
questions because I don't know right right, I just want
to have conversation about it.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Like I said, you're one of those guys that can
actually have a decent conversation. We're not getting defensive about it.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
And that's another one too, man.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
Yeah, it's such dude.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
I remember when I first brought it up to my mom,
like she damn near just owned me. I was like, look,
this is just this is just what I'm seeing. Like
you shouldn't be able to see the the the skyline
of Chicago from you the other side of Detroit. You know,

(20:03):
it should be under the curve, you know, at least
partially under the curvature. And I'm like but you can
clearly see it, and they go, oh, well, it's a mirage,
you know, and it's like, I don't give a damn
if it's a mirage. If you're on the other side
of a hill, I'm not going to see, you know,
the entire ground level. I'm going to see the tip

(20:25):
of the the tip of the tower, you know what
I mean. Like that's all there is to it. So
I'm just not buying. I'm just not buying the narrative.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
But yeah, but I'm down then whenever whatever.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Who Yeah, cool, we'll set it up.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
It's got to.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, yeah, to send me then shoot me the info.
H we'll do.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
So we were going to talk Christmas horror movies.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
I was looking at your list, Yes, Christmas horror movies. Yeah,
I've got a whole list. But I'm curious about the
people in chat what they considered their favorite Christmas horror movie,
because this is just a list that I could think of,

(21:14):
you know, Like I like rare Exports. I like the
nineteen seventy four version of Black Christmas. There's been two
other versions of it, but I like the original nineteen
seventy four version.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, that's what I was going to say when he
shit the list, it had the twenty ten I believe
version no question.

Speaker 8 (21:38):
Where I said twenty ten.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Twenty ten is rare exports.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
It's in front of it, do stupid crazy.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Lyes right, breezy. Then there's some that people might not
have heard of, Like there's something in the Barn that
I've talked about. Right, it's got the little Pumpday in it.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
Yeah, I was going to watch that and I forgot
about it.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Got to see it, got to see it. And then
there's P two, which I think a lot of people
don't think about, but I like P.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
Two.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
I think it's a it's a thriller. I don't know
if it's really a horror or a thriller, but as
a pike. Ah, he's killing people in it, so it's
a horror.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
No, it's P two too.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
It prefers to a parking garage. It's this girl or
this woman who is leaving her Christmas party late and
there is a security guard that's got a crush on her.
He's been stalking her. He essentially traps her in the
building in the parking garage that's shut down for the holidays,
and he's stalking her and eliminating people to get in

(22:46):
the way. Let's just put it that way. It's a
decent flick. I like it, and I love the actor
who's in it. And oh I forget his name. Yeah, gosh,
I say I love him, and then I say it
for God's action. No, he he's in a yellow stony place,
that ship head brother. Oh he's also a ghost writer.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Goode. Right, I don't yeah, no clue, I know that.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
I do know that the.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Director for Black Christmas was the same director in the
nineteen seventy four is the same director as.

Speaker 10 (23:32):
West Bentley Christmas Carol, Right, okay, yeah, yeah, A Christmas Story,
Christmas Story.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Yeah, same same director. So he actually owns like under
his belt two of the greatest Christmas movies, even though
they're completely on different sides of the spectrum, different things, right.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Right, Well, you've you've got my favorite one listed Silent Night,
Deadly Night. Nope, Gremlins, Oh, Gremlins.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, I can't forget Gremlins. And it's it's a scary movie.
When that first came out, I mean it's it was
geared towards children, but we all know how Disney and
every other adult back in the day just loved to
traumatize kids. It was marketed to children, but as a child,
because you know, it came out in what eighty four

(24:27):
and I was I was eleven when that came out.
That was scary. Those little green bastards were scary, you know,
and I was thinking, God bless, I don't want to
put water on anything after midnight, eat anything after midnight.
Definitely don't want to wash anything with that.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Little you know. Yeah, not awful critters.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, little green snotty looking things.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, they were all green, you see, looking and mean.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
But yeah, and that was That was also like one
of the long running traditions of Corey Feldman being in
horror movies, because he was in Frida the Thirteenth Part four,
Lost Boys, and Grimlins. Yeah, so it was like, which,
where's he going with it?

Speaker 10 (25:23):
You know?

Speaker 5 (25:24):
And also I guess if he'd kind of consider it
a horror movie, it's not horror movie but by a
horror author, which would be stand by me.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah, well, I it became anonymous.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
You could call it action maybe, right, yeah, kind of
adventure an adventure movie for sure, like Goonies. Goonies was
adventure for sure for the children. You know, he was
in that mouth.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, you know. M if they would have added
the original dream sequence from them the book into that movie,
it would have definitely gave it a horror aspect because
the dream sequence when they're sleeping around the fire and
so like in the in the movie, it's where they're

(26:15):
burying his brother and his dad's like it was you know,
the wrong bullow dad basically, and uh but in the
in the book, he was like in the middle of
the lake or the middle of the pond and all
his homies were dead and they're like zombies underneath there,

(26:35):
and they're like trying to drag him down. And it
was the it was the kind of the speech that
Chris Chambers gives them. They're not you know, they're not
your friends. If they're gonna drag you down, you know,
it's that right, But it was, but it was it's
it's a freaking horrorsh horrorish Yeah, but no, I.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
Back to Grimlins.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah, and a lot of people argue about whether Grimlins
is actually a horror movie. I mean, it's definitely horror comedy,
you know what I mean. But yeah, like, okay, they're
they're they're unliving old ladies by throwing them out the
window from there. Yes, yeah, And and you never forget

(27:37):
the chicks story about her dad like that is dark,
Like when she's talking about how they were they had
the the fireplace slit and they started smelling a freaking
weird smell, and then.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yes, yeah, her dad didn't show up for days and
they finally called the police and he was going to
go and pretend that he was Santa Claus and climb
down the chimney earned freaking.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
That's horrific.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
So our list that I put out there for anybody
who didn't happen to read the description on YouTube is
is Silent Night, Deadly Night That nineteen eighty four, cramp
Us In from twenty fifteen, Rare Exports from twenty ten,
Black Christmas nineteen seventy four, Gremlins nineteen eighty four, He two,

(28:41):
two thousand and seven, There's Something in the Barn twenty
twenty three, And then I gave honorable mentions to Jack
Frost nineteen eighty seven, not Michael Keaton version, but the
actual Snowman like killer reincarnated Snowman one, because he's such
a perv and a pervy snowman just make me laugh.

(29:02):
And then Santa's Slay in two thousand and five because
Goldberg the wrestler plays Santa Claus, who goes on this
rampage because he's His backstory was that he's a demon
that went around killing people on Christmas, but he lost
a bet to an angel that forced him to be

(29:22):
nice and give out gifts for a thousand years, and
his nice sentence just ended, So now he's back to
his original a few ways and is going around just
murdering people left and right. And then Elves, which is
actually a Netflix like mini series. It's not really a movie.
It's like a short run series from twenty twenty one,

(29:45):
and it's not in that one. I. You know, it's
kind of an honorable mention because it's well, one it's
a series, it's not a movie, and two it's not
necessarily about Christmas, but it is about elves in the forest.
So I thought it was interesting and I think you
guys should check it out. So just so everybody in
the chat's up to date, those are the ones that

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I put down that we'd be talking about. But if
you can think of one, uh that isn't all the list,
then let us know.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
I got I got a couple of I mean, I'm
not in the chat, but so but these I don't
think that they counted as movies, right, But remember in
the original movie of what was it? Well, there's one

(30:37):
in Creep Show, which Creep Show two, which was the
the Thanks for.

Speaker 8 (30:44):
The Ride Lady, Yeah, that's kind of Christmasy.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
But the one in tells tells from the Crypt the
movie tells from the Crypt where the ladies in the
house with their kid, is that there's a lunatic escape
from a sanousylum. Like that's classic as shit, you know,
But I mean, but it's not a whole movie. It's

(31:10):
like a fifteen piece of But that's.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Along the Silent Night, Deadly Night kind of thing, right
where the guy's dressed up like Santa trying to get
into the house, right right where the and I'm trying
to remember because Silent Night, Deadly Night. I've seen it
a bunch of times back like in my twenties, but
I haven't seen it probably gosh, twenty years, so it's

(31:33):
been a minute since i've seen it. But I want
to say that he was traumatized as a child. Then
that made him go on like a psychotic spree at Christmas,
dressed to Santa with an axe.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what his is. I can't remember
exactly either.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
I think like his parents were murdered or something around Christmas,
and then there's like a mo I remember the montage
of him at the shopping mall or whatever, and he's
like but if it's like corny classic eighties music, and
he's like living his best life, and then all hell

(32:14):
breaks loose and then before you know, he's in a
sanate outfit.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I remember like storming around like with this dingy Santa outfit.
I remember that more than anything. And you just look
like an alcoholic like stepdad, like some greasy alcoholic stepdad.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Like that.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Well, oh gosh, what movie is it? You smell weird?
Oh it's elf, you smell like sausage. Let's see Santa Claus.
I don't think I've seen that one. There's so many men.
When I was researching this, there's so many that I
haven't seen, Like The Gingerbread Man. Yeah, you know, there's
a ton of Crampus movies.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
Have you seen all the Have you seen all the
Now it's the whole gingerbread Man versus Evil Bong.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
Yeah, there's like thirty of them. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
So there's Santa Jaws, which is a shark with the
Santa hat on.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
I saw that. I saw that when I'm like what
in the war.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yeah, there's a few that I'm just gonna have to
check out just because they look like some awesome B
movies and I'm always down for a good B movie.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Stand the Jobs.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
So let's okay, so silent, let's talk about Crumpus. Have
you seen that movie, the twenty fifteen one. Yeah, it
was mass marketed.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah. I wasn't a fan, just because I hate when
they put well known actors and horror flicks. I'm just,
you know, like if the actor wasn't that well known
in the beginning, like okay, Kevin Bacon was in front
of thirteenth or whatever. But when they put that dude

(34:14):
I forgot his name, but the dude from step Brothers
and then the guy from Anchorman.

Speaker 8 (34:20):
And it just I don't know something about it.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
It pulls me out of that movie's reality and I'm
just looking at the dude from step Brothers. It's like
dogging on his wife because she can't sing sweet Child
of Mind, you know what I mean? Like, right, it
disillusions me.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
I guess you could say, oh, really you can't place
him in more than one movie?

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, well, I mean because every movie you see him
in is a comedy flick, you know what I mean.
So you and both of those dudes, they're both just
straight up comedy, you know. So it's like I'd see
them as funny guys. I don't see them as you know,
they're them being threatened by you know, an evil crampus.
Or it'd be like seeing them in a Friday at

(35:07):
the thirteenth.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
You know.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
I just I couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Well. I thought that it was interesting. I mean a
lot of people hadn't heard of Campus before.

Speaker 7 (35:16):
That movie, I would say.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
I mean, it re vamped the whole character and made
it popular again.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, I'll give it that. Yeah. Yeah, it did.

Speaker 8 (35:33):
It brought it to the It brought it to the mainstream.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Yeah, it did.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
It really did.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
It was it was. I mean, it was scary, but
it was funny to it because it had some really
good one liners in it. Right, I mean, you've got
the blizzard and you feel very isolated. The snowmanner coming,
you know, obviously menacingly getting closer to the house. You
don't know why. And then the gingerbread men are like

(36:04):
psychos right with the sharpened little candy canes, and who
hasn't eaten a candy cane to the point that you're
stabbing your own tongue with it?

Speaker 8 (36:13):
At that point?

Speaker 6 (36:15):
For sure?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I mean, what is it? You know, great weapon?

Speaker 6 (36:18):
I mean, what a way to make a person shank uh.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Okay, it's a schoolyard shank man mess with me at
the holidays. And then the ant is so awesome. I
love that actress and she has like the best line, like,
I know, you know, I've lived long enough to know
when life's coming at me with its pants down.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
I love that line.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
And let's see what rare exports? Okay, so rare exports?
Have you guys had an opportunity to see that yet,
because that's another movie kind of compass.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
See, I have a queued up.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
I'm gonna watch it when we get.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Off of here.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, that one I liked, and it's I'm trying to
think it's not As an adult, it's not spooky really,
but as a parent, you can see where it would
be a little like or as a child, I can
see where it would be very spooky, very scary, because

(37:25):
kids start just disappearing. These things, these things are they're
stealing kids. And I'm not going to give the movie
away since you hadn't seen it, but yeah, it's I mean,
it's this mysterious thing at the center of what's going
on in this very small Norwegian town, and it's a
it's a great holiday movie. And I like how they

(37:47):
turned it around at the end and they turned it
into a profitable business. You'll like it.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Yeah, I can't. I go ahead, go ahead. I was
gonna say on on the the you know, Christmas horror
in the horror genre, that's probably I'm very uh limited
as far as my knowledge of it is. I didn't

(38:17):
dig Christmas horror movies, you know. I was like, you're
gonna have a horror movie all you want, believe Jesus
out of it, you know, when I was a kid,
because I was ready it's you know, very you know,
Catholic in the beginning, So when I was, especially when
I was into my horror movies the most. You know,
I don't mind zombies, I don't mind mass murders. But

(38:40):
you know, that's that's Jesus' time, you know. So I
was like, I don't like this. I don't, but I
know some of it that. There's a lot of it
that you know. I'm gonna be one with y'all. I
never saw it.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
You should check it out. It's pretty decent.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
No, no, no, yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
I did.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
A third time. I found a Christmas Bigfoot movie.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
There you go, Donnie.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
It's called Pottersville.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Pottersville. Can't say that I have heard of that one.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
I've actually seen it. I looked it up and I said, oh,
I've seen that movie. I'm not going to tell y'all
squat about it.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Go to go.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Are you gonna read the synopsis for us other than
it's a Bigfoot Christmas movie?

Speaker 6 (39:33):
Fine?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Fine, Fine, can't leave us hanging like that, dude.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Oh my gosh, oh my god. It was in two
it was in twenty seventeen. Okay, why is it. I'm
really getting to where I don't like IMBB because they
made it their screw their page, all of them. So Maynard,

(39:58):
I beloved local business is businessman is mistaken for the
legendary Bigfoot. During the enuberated romp through town in a
makeshift gorilla costume.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Okay, he okay, read that again.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
He Maynard, a beloved local businessman, is mistaken for the
legendary Bigfoot during eneberated rump through town in a makeshift
gorilla costume.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Now, how does that translate to Christmas?

Speaker 6 (40:34):
Well, it takes place at Christmas?

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Does it get shot? I wonder he's not in Texas.

Speaker 6 (40:44):
Part of the part of the thing is part of
the thing is he walks in on this guy and
his why okay is this they're Perry and they're ropping
around in his living room doing the furry thing.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Right, Oh my god, sweet, that's right up. Donny Chose, Allie, So,
I think Donnie cho needs to watch that and then
he needs to dedicate an episode of Donnie Chose says shit.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
To that movie.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
But it's got I get this. It's got Michael Shannon
in it, Ron Pearlman, Judy Greer.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Ron Pearlman's in it. Yeah, oh bro, he's desperate for.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Work there see Thomas Lennon, Christina Hendricks, Ian.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
McShane, I love Ian McShane, so uh.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Elena, Elena Hurst, Blake Pearlman. Yeah, I mean, there's quite
a few people in it.

Speaker 11 (42:08):
You know.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
It was directed by Seth Hendricks Hinnerkinson Crimson who Crimson Crimson,
I don't know, yah, but yeah, it's uh, it's Pottersville.

(42:31):
It's a magical life.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Yeah it is never mind.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
Ohna furryes hey, it's got it all right.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Apparently.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
I would think Pearlman would be the Bigfoot, right, it's
got to be.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
He's got to be. I mean he was Beast and
Beauty and the Beast the.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Series we ended Ron Perlman and that the hell Boy.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Hell Boy, Yeah, it was the original hell Boy. Yeah,
and make of hell Boy by the way, Yeah, it
was good. I like freaking trashed at the theaters. It
got trashed to the point they're not going to make
a number two. They're gonna make a second one, which
kind of disappoints me because I was hoping to see
what they would do with Abe Sapien.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
That was my favorite character.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, who doesn't love Abe Sapien?

Speaker 7 (43:36):
How can you not?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
And de.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
Mm hmm, what do you think about the color of
water Monk.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
I thought that was weird. I thought it was weird.
It was like like that, it's like a fever dream
kind of weird, right the hell, it's not romantic, that's
just weird.

Speaker 8 (44:10):
Some interencrypted brown chicken, brown cow.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Yeah, I'm okay.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
I don't know if I'm made a hot bigfoot? You
know it is a possibility.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
Have I seen what Under the Skin? No, y'all need
to watch under the Skin?

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Oh god, what's it about? Hold on, let me google it.
It's about alien. It does sound very familiar.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
Man, I'm just Scarlett Johanson.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Oh yeah, I know this one. Yeah, I know this
one very well. I'll bet yeah right, oh yeah, uh.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
It's oh my god.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
I'm like, babe, go to the other room. You wouldn't
like this movie. Just just go give me, give me
five minutes.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
It's an alien peedo like adult like maybe not necessarily pedo.
Uh well, no, this is the synopsis that I'm reading.
Disguising itself as a human female and extraterrestrial drives around Scotland,
attempting to lure unsuspecting men into her van. There, she

(45:45):
seduces them and sends them into another dimension where they
are nothing more than meat.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
They are, and there's a lot of meat in that movie.
That's the only bummer about it. There's everywhere. Well I die,
this is like the fifth wing I've seen already. Come on,
I'm just seeing her.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
One of my favorite movies.

Speaker 7 (46:18):
Okay, I.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Kin kind of want to see it. I kind of
don't want to see you.

Speaker 6 (46:28):
No, it's actually.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Yeah, it's it's and the director is one of those
he's one of those cats that that uses absence of
a lot of communication, absence of noise, you know what
I mean, where it kind of like just leaves you
in the leaves your your brain up to more.

Speaker 8 (46:51):
Imagination, kind of like David Lynch.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Does a lot of times where it's like you're like,
you don't know what's going on. It's not on you
what's going on. So you kind of have to you
have to kind of like put it together psychologically in
your own head on what you're actually watching. You're like, Okay,
I know this chick is you know, but there's no

(47:15):
there's no definitive Uh what would you call it? Like
a yeah, there's no definitive story about it or keys
to the story.

Speaker 12 (47:31):
Well, what's crazy is her character? In a sense, it's
very childlike. Yeah, it doesn't know anything. Yeah, it's like
learning as it goes.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yeah, No, red, but I will one take it much
to Donnie Cho's like dismay, no clue. Uh okay. So

(48:02):
when they say that she's taking them to another dimension
where they're nothing more than meat, it makes me think
of Midnight Meat Train. No.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Yeah, I see where you're going.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
But no, no, no, there's no sex in Midnight Meet Train. No. No.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
What it is is like just for okay, just for
an instance, like okay on one of them, and they
go down like this a lot. It's like she guides
them into like a room, but you can tell you're
once they get inside, like the house or whatever they're in,

(48:39):
they're not in our dimension, you know, because it's like
completely black. And she starts walking, you know, and undressing.
And as they start undressing and following, she's walking on
a level plane and they're starting to sink into water.
And then once they're completely under the water, they're still

(48:59):
hooked on the spell. So once they're completely land or water,
you know, they're looking up and she's standing on top
of the water that they're looking So it's that's that's
where it gets another interdimensional. Yeah, it's pretty cool, but
you can see, uh, Scott and Johannes's beauty. Give it

(49:20):
that much.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
That ain't all.

Speaker 8 (49:23):
Yeah, you know, I'm keeping it clean.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
So every man is going to go watch under the
skin out depending on their their particular.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Fetish, right, it's gonna be one or the other.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
You're welcome the world. H O.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
If you lack mermaids, watch cold skin.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Oh that's I did see that. That's not that's kind
of mermaidy.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
Kind of.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Hold on, let me google it because if that's the
one that I'm thinking, I don't think they were. They
were really mermaids with the lighthouse. Yeah, because they were
walking around on land, right, that's more God not Kelpie.

(50:31):
Is it Kelpie that I'm thinking of.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
I don't know. I just thought it was a version
of Mermaid.

Speaker 7 (50:41):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 8 (50:45):
Puts man.

Speaker 11 (50:50):
Kelpie, kelpie kelpie spirit because I thought the kelpies are
the ones said, okay, described as white or gray and
they say they keep their hoods taking human form. So yeah,
kelpie are the horses. That's not what I'm thinking of,

(51:13):
God blessed, what are the ones? Ah, I'm blinking out.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
It's not a kelpie. But they shed their skin. They
shed their skin, and if a man finds their skin
and hides it. They have to stay in human form,
and a lot of times they'll take them as wives,
and they're good wives, they're good mothers. But if they
find their skin, they'll put their skin back on it
and take off back into the ocean.

Speaker 8 (51:38):
So they take the mr skin.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Yeah, they look like seals.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Kind of okay, well they all they call them in
the synopsis of it are amphibious creatures.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
Yeah, not sure.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
MoMA is my favorite mermaid, Donicho. Just for the record, Jason,
MoMA is Donnie Cho's favorite mermaid. Uh No, Selkies, thank you, Morgan,
thank you. Selki's and Kelpies is my favorite mermaid that

(52:18):
I forgot all about that movie Splash.

Speaker 6 (52:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Oh yeah, I couldn't forget about that movie if I
had to. They came in right on time.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
I watched a movie called bad Fish the other day.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Bad Fish, Bad Fish? Did it give you indigestion? What
was it about?

Speaker 6 (52:46):
Text Mermaid? There's another one out there called uh, let
me look it up. Let's see. I find it real quick.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
If you ever see the band bad Fish come to town,
if you're a sublime lover, go watch it. It's like, oh,
it's the closest thing to seeing Sublime you'll ever see
bad Fish. Yeah, they put a damn good show on
and sounds plays exactly. I mean, close your eyes and

(53:24):
you're a Sublime concert.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Here's a here's a little thing. Bobo used to be
a roadie for Sublime.

Speaker 6 (53:36):
There's another Mermaid movie out there called Mermaid Down?

Speaker 7 (53:42):
Is that like, okay?

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Is it like Watership Down with mermines? Well, Santa Yah.

Speaker 6 (53:58):
I think we talked about it. What about this guy
catches her Mermaid and he's a psychiatrist and he puts
puts her in a mental hospital.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Nobody'd believe her.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
All right, I'm loving it already.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
He chops SoC with tail. Since she's on land, she
grows legs, so the.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Legs or did he just cut off her tail and
legs spread it out of the stump?

Speaker 6 (54:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Is that the one where she like accidentally splashes, like
splashes water on herself and she runs to the to
the bathroom and they follow her in. I guess it's
like in an institution, and they follow her in and
she's a fish in the freaking bathshub like h locked

(55:00):
and around.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
Yeah, it's like kind of like the same as splash.
If they're dry, then they stay. Yeah, yeah, oh exactly, yeah, yeah,
I heard a drink open that was that'd be me
bud Wiser, Budweiser and rum. That's what happened to, oh

(55:32):
that rum. And I was telling I don't know if
the chat knows, but so I was making mason jars
full of half where there's original and half and fill.
It rested up with Cat Morgan's rum and giving them
out for Christmas presents on Christmas to my kids. They're

(55:55):
all over twenty one. So but uh, that stuff came
out insanely delicious, Like you could do a shot of it,
or you could put some in your coffee. I'd recommend
putting some in your coffee. Like, I don't know who
drinks liquor that early in the morning besides me, but

(56:15):
I do. And I would love, have love to have
a permanent supply that way when I wake up hung over,
I can just.

Speaker 8 (56:25):
But it was insanely good, insanely good.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
So I found a TV show on PBS called Monstrom
Have you heard of it?

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Monstrum maybe?

Speaker 4 (56:42):
So it's this is the synopsis for the show. It
is the world is full of monsters, myths, and legends,
and Monstrom isn't afraid to take the closer look. The show,
hosted by Emily Zarka, PhD, takes us on a journey
to discover a new monster. For each new episode, Monstrom

(57:03):
looks at human unique drive to create and shape monster
mythology through oral storytelling, literature.

Speaker 7 (57:13):
And films.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
So that sounds like right up all of our alleys.
And one of the episodes is about the yule.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
Cat what you gonna call it.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
There's a link for everybody to go check out. It's
on PBS. I am going to be watching that this
weekend because I like to learn things, and we'll see
if she's got anything that I haven't heard of, because
it's pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (57:52):
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, there not really m h.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Monstrous.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
So one of the episodes, and this is something that
interests me, and maybe we can do a show about this,
like we can each do a little bit of research
on it. Lost in the back Rooms exploring the Internet's
creepiest liminal spaces. So liminal space freaks me out, And
if you've ever been in a liminal space, it is

(58:35):
the most unnerving thing, Like you feel so just uneasy
like you are. You are somewhere you are not supposed
to be, and you feel it every second you are
standing there.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
Huh Oh, I have one on a latusa.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Yeah, that you say is that that ain't no joke.
That shit's scary, shit scary. I mean, she's a freaking
owl woman perchase outside of your house and makes you
sick and die. Shit's scary anyway. Yeah, but I think,
what do you think, Joe want to do a liminal

(59:20):
space show?

Speaker 5 (59:21):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (59:22):
I'm down because yeah, I'm all about that, especially the.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
What do you call it?

Speaker 8 (59:27):
The you just said it and I'm losing it.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
The back back rooms back rooms show. Yeah, because that one,
especially that one dude that where he's like taking videos
and stuff and he's have you seen this cat? He's
like taking videos and stuff and there's no one there,
and then he'll he'll tell people, Okay, we'll give me

(59:55):
a place to go, and they'll go like, okay, go
to It's like an Argentina or something. They'll be like,
go to you know this intersection, you know, downtown at
you know, five thirty at rush hour, and he'll go
there and there's nobody there, and he was like, look,
you know at the clock, yep, five thirty. There's nobody

(01:00:19):
here you don't see. And he's got a bunch of
videos out. And but the part that weirds me out
is because there's no animals either in his in his backspace.
You know, there's there's nothing, nothing else lives but him.
And they'll be like, all right, we'll go to the ocean.

(01:00:40):
So he'll go to the freaking ocean. There's not one seagull,
not one bird, not nothing. They'll tell him go to
the police department. He'll go and literally have his camera,
go walk into the police department, grab keys to a car,
find out which car it is, go in and drive

(01:01:01):
the police car around. And you know they'll be like,
go to a mall, and they'll do and there's nobody
in there, like nobody around. And this one cat, he's
a computer special effects guy. He's like, dude, if he's
actually doing this, like just editing the people out or

(01:01:22):
the noises out, he's like, it would take him probably
about six months to do one video, and he's cranking
out like a video a week. So he's like, dud,
there's no way. He's like, even you know, with everything
I know, there's no possible way for him to do it,
and yeah, so I'm big on that one. I'm down. Yeah,

(01:01:46):
it's if I figure if I find out it's into
your link. But yeah, it's just there's no way to me.
The animals is the weirdest part. You can't go to
a beach and not see a seagull especially, Yeah, there's
it's just not happening.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Yeah, so yeah there. Yeah, Like I said, if you've
ever been in elemental space and you just feel it's
not like the hair on the back of your neck
standing up strange, it's it's a very it's just you
feel very unsettled, like I'm not supposed to be here,

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like like vaguely threatened, but like I don't understand why
I feel threatened or scared. I mean, maybe it's just
that I'm somewhere where they're supposed to be necessarily a
lot of activity or something, but I'm not, like, it's
it's crazy. It's very difficult to explain, but it's it's
a freaky feeling.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
Yeah, no, yeah, definitely, Yeah, it's I don't know, it
weirds me out. Just just watching that gives me that
kind of a vibe. I'm like, dude, like this dude's
and oh and he'll he'll he's supposedly he's in twenty

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twenty seven. That's what like the everything around it. It
kind of starts off like what was that movie like
twenty eight Days Later or whatever where he's in a hospital.
He wakes up and there's no one in the hospital,
so he finds a camera and blah blah blah a

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phone or camera whatever. But he'll leave stuff from the
future and he'll tell people, you know, it'll take a
picture and tell people where it's at and they'll go
and they'll find me the same object.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
But yeah, like time travel.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
Yeah, it's weird. That's not space, but there's no one there.
There's no one there any you know. Yeah, it's a
back room. There's there's no one else living or breathing
in that world.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
And then it goes if you got into okay, so okay,
Well there's all different kinds of liminal space, right because
you're going way like yeah, like outer like fringe like
liminal space like where there's like a literal transition between

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timelines and I'm going I'm thinking more like I'm in
a place that's gonna be there. It's going to be there,
but I'm in a transition period. Like let's say it's
abandoned or it's in a transit like it's a place
that's normally very active, but I'm in there when it's
in the lull.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
When there's nothing, yeah going on.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Right, So my in my contact or any other person's context,
there should be a lot of people, it should be bustling,
but I'm there when there is rickets going on. I
am literally the only person in a transition between its
busy phase and it's unbusy phase. That's its liminal space.
That's as liminal time.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
Those movies were fill New York and there's nothing but
paper blown across the street. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
I can see that. Fuck the Last Man Alive, the
Twilight Zone movie.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
Yeah, but it's not a part yeah like that, but
like in a temporary setting, right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
With what was this Burgess murder?

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Yeah, classes yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's that one.
But the very first episode of Twilight Zone, I think
it was called Anybody Here, but it's basically the same concept.

Speaker 8 (01:05:55):
But it turns out in the end because he's like going.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Around, He's like, hey, is there anybody around, goes to
a cafe, goes and you know, but it's the episode one,
season one, and I can't find anybody. But then it
turns out, uh, he's an Air Force dude, and the
Air Force is like conducting an experiment on like so

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he's passed out and they were like, all right, bring
him out of the simulation, blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:24):
You know, it's almost like a Turman showed up.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
Then. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
So there's this one time that I know I've said
it before. Okay, I don't know if it was here
or on one of y'all shows, But I was at
a gas station at like one in the morning, and
it was south of Corsicana, and I don't even think

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that gas stations there anymore. And it's when you're traveling,
because I was driving up from Houston in the middle
of the night by myself. And this is like in
two thousand two, two thousand and three, let's say, And
like I said, I'm alone. It's one in the morning

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and might have been early there than that. Actually, I
don't think I was seeing Chris. Might have been in
the nineties. Anyway, you have the sea of darkness right
between towns and I'm I have to go to the
bathroom and I'm almost out of gas, so I have
to stop at this gas station and it is like this,
It's like a horror movie. It's like a lone light

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in a sea of darkness. And I pull up to
the pumps and there's other people there, but it's like
an old like run down, Like you can hear the
buzzing of the lights at the like above the pumps,
and like the canopy is like thirty feet tall, like
it's the old rundown like gas stations. And I walk

(01:07:58):
in and I'm already kind of on guard because I'm,
you know, a girl. I'm by myself in the middle
of nowhere, Texas, like in the dark. I got a
lonely highway. I gotta get out because I got to
go to the bathroom and get gas. And I'm very

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aware of every male around me. And I walk in
and there's guys, obviously truckers and whatnot, like hanging out
in the in the lobby, and I asked where the
bathroom was, and the guy behind the counter was like,
you know, you got to go down the hallway, and

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you know, down the hallway and to the left, and
I go down the hallway and all of the noise
once I enter this hallway like stops, like it's like
crossing a barrier. I can't really hear anybody up there anymore.
And as I'm going down the corridor, there's like thick
plastic sheeting along the walls and it forms like it's

(01:09:02):
clearly an open spot that it's like hurting you towards
the bathrooms. It was a restaurant that they were remodeling,
and they were you know, they were sectioning it off
at the plastic for contamination, you know, for dust contamination.
And I just remember being just super sketched out. I

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was like the only woman in that place. And I
go into this rundown restroom, lock the door. I'm like,
man if I hear this door round, I kind of
get murdered. There's plastic over Like good Fellows thought it
was a horror movie, but you know, it was just

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that weird sensation. Nobody did anything threatening to me. Nobody
said anything menacing, nobody was doing anything necessarily like creepy.
It was just the whole scene, right, and that I mean,
I'm not saying that was necessarily a liminal space it
kind of was I would expect, you know, it was
a lot busier during the day, but yeah, coming out,

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you know, going back into the noise and you know,
you're coming out of this space. I felt so uneasy
until I got back in the lobby. And then even then,
you know, I you know, paid for my gas, and
there was some guy trying to chat me up in line,
and I was like, yeah, okay, guy, And then I
get it back out to my car and I've got
a pump gas with this guy following me out to

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my car, still trying to talk to me, and you know,
get my gas and I get on the road and
I'm still creeped out driving down the road, like it
takes a while to shake those feelings. You know, if
you ever get those weird feelings, it takes a long
time to shake them. You know.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
I see a pattern here. You get you have weird
shit happened you driving along?

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
Yeah, I do get it. I just have weird shit
happened to me.

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
A weirdship magnet I am.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
I am a weird ship. I'm a weirdo magnet too.

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
M hm.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
I guarantee you I've crossed more than one killer in
my life.

Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
Hey, I'm with you. I'm the same way, you know,
because Jason was convinced somebody was gonna be wearing my skin.
That timed down and a uh Mineola.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
So I mean, yeah, I mean that's a but I
mean I don't think that like that's unusual for women.
I mean, that's just that's being a woman. That's just
being a woman. Unfortunately. You know, you got to be
on guard all the time and just yeah, like I'm

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ready to box at any moment. I can make a
weapon out of it. I'm a guy for some ship
with the spring.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Anything I've got a sharpened candy came back off right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
M That's the way it is.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
Grand Hour says the cashier flipped a coin, told you
to call it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Yeah, I mean this was back. I didn't have any
weapons on me. I was, I didn't have anything. Yeah,
I want to say it might have been like in
the late nineties. I want to say, now that I'm
thinking about it, I don't think I was coming up
here to see Chris.

Speaker 6 (01:12:40):
I think I was.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
I hadn't moved down to Houston yet. I think it
was my transition between living in Dallas and move them
down to Houston. So that would have been like ninety seven.
So I was on my gosh, twenty four m Creepy

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Texas gas stations.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
The places that I guess, if I guess you could
say creep me out, I don't know that I'm kind
of I guess that I'm kind of leery about, or
rest stops at night along the highway.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
Yeah, those are creepy too.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
Yeah. Now I'm usually toasted if I make it to
a rest stop, like go out and pay, like ay yay.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
I guess I'm just paranoid because every time I'm traveling
by myself and I got to get out of the car,
I'm like.

Speaker 6 (01:13:55):
Really walks up for real, I'm like.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Paper aware of everything, Like oh.

Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
Yeahs creepy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
But I mean, okay, So the horror movie rust Stop.
Have you seen it? The what the horror movie rest Stop?

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
I don't think so maybe uh huh yeah watch it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Okay, It's it's wonderful. Yeah, you'll love rest stops even
more after that. M hm.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
So did you did y'all watch actually, like physically watch
any you know must go to Christmas movies? Yesterday?

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Oh yeah, I watched the ref because I got to
it's it's on my list. It's not a horror movie obviously,
but I've got to see my Dennis Leary movie.

Speaker 6 (01:14:49):
I watched the one that I have to watch every year,
and that's Rudolph and the Red Nose Reindeer. You know,
I want to misfit toys.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
The Ranking Bass that's who produced it. Yes, Ranking Fact.

Speaker 8 (01:15:05):
I did the one I've been on for the last
couple of years, Violent Night.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
With the dude from Somewhere Else.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
That is so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Yes, I love that man, so funny.

Speaker 8 (01:15:20):
Ship from Stranger Thing. He's the sheriff and the Stranger Things.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
See I remember him, yes, from He's from Stranger Things.
He's also in The Equalizer.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
Okay, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
In the Equalizer, the one that doesn't get oft Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
Yeah, And I had to watch that and he does
kill a dude with a candy cane. He's like the
dude shying to break and he's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
With it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
But it's like one of those it's one of those
thumb thick candy canes, not like the little number two
pencil ones.

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
That's great because it reminds me. It's kind of like,
you know, if Santo's in Die hard John Luca Zambo
does a good job in it. The chick of Beverly DeAngelo,
she's in it. Yeah, I love it, man, I think
it's a great freaking movie.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
So did you watch it?

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Oh? Yeah, I watched it last night after everybody passed out,
probably like twelve thirty one o'clock in the morning. Watched
it till I two or something.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Continue to watch Christmas movies through probably the new year,
just because I haven't been feeling it, so I haven't
watched a whole ton. But somebody mentioned Wedge, and Tilly's
mentioned Scrooge, and that is one of the ones that
I do have to see every year. Scrooge, love it,
Love Bill Murray.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
Yeah, yeah, Scrooge was good. Jen's more of a Scrooge
kind of a I'm not so much, but because she's like,
you see the same groundhog Day and she loves.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
See I don't like groundhog Day. That's the one. That's
the one Bill Murray movie I just couldn't get into.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
Yeah, yeah, she loves that. Ship. Now I like to
keep my Bill Murray as a as a caddy shack
and Ghostbusters like that. Just smart ass freaking He was
like mentally yeah, like almost to the point where it's

(01:17:39):
it's it's horror, you know what I mean, Like this
guy could be a serial.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Killer and wouldn't think anything of it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
He placed himself in a zombie land.

Speaker 5 (01:17:53):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's a great one, you know. You know,
and in Caddy Shack, so no one really knew who
he was, Like he was still up and coming, and
he was one of those cats that stays in characters
through the whole thing. So he ate by himself. He

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didn't you know, like kick it with the rest of
the cast. And when he did that the scene with
the pitchfork, he literally like poked that dude in the
neck where he started bleeding, and like people were like, dude,
what you know, Like who is this guy and why

(01:18:37):
is he on on set? You know, he literally scared people,
which I think is awesome. You know, there's a couple
of need again, so I.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Can quote the ship out of Caddy Shock. I love
it so much. Do you want to make fourteen bucks
the hard way?

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
You know how Rodney Dangerfield got his his uh.

Speaker 8 (01:19:09):
Part in that movie.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
So there's like a story, huh.

Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
I was the answering Finch Watch Christmas Movies Year round.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Hot as hell.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
But Rodney Dangerfield came into what was his name? Uh,
he's the other Ghostbuster. Man, I'm drawing a blank. And
now the dudes who directed Caddy Shack Harold Ramis. Yeah,

(01:19:48):
I guess he wrote it. I guess maybe, right, man,
I don't know. But the story goes is that, Uh,
Rodney Dangerfield came in and he was notorious for this.
He came in with his robe completely open, naked as
a jaybird, and I was like, sat down, chopped a

(01:20:11):
big freaking line coke and it was like railed it
and was like, so.

Speaker 13 (01:20:15):
You're gonna put me in the freaking movie or what.
They were like, all right, sure, let's do this.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
Yeah, he was a notorious for that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Yeah, the Late Great Ted Night. The world needs Ditch
Diggers too. Okay, we can wrap it up. I think
we've petered out on the Christmas movies. Now we're just talking.

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
About random stuff, random.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
Things and liminal spaces. Any closing thoughts, any anything else,
don't want to say, any gestures you'd like to make
and sure anything anything?

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
Speaking the speaking of Grimlins on Tomorrow night show at
the Breezy Speakeasy, we will be doing Grimlins, like the
actual War of Grimlins, kind of where they came from,
the different manifestations of them. And we'll probably end up
touching down a little bit on the movie too, because

(01:21:32):
that's kind of what inspired it. For me. It's it
is a Christmas plick, but but we're going to be
doing like the actual factual Grimlins because my car has Grimlins,
swear god. Something is always going weirdly wrong. Like tonight,
got in my car and for some reason, my ac

(01:21:55):
like wouldn't change temperature or change fan speed, you know,
and I'm like, normally it works time, you know, well,
let's say eighty percent of the time, and so I'm
like trying to turn my my defroster on. Nothing's working,
Like it just doesn't work. So and I know plenty

(01:22:18):
of y'all probably have also had vehicles or you know,
TVs or stereos that you know, just for some reason
out of the middleware and nowhere it just doesn't work.
It stops working, stops acting, starts acting a full you
get volume up, and it changes your radio stations, you know.

(01:22:41):
So that's kind of the thing. It was originated in
World War One. There's an excuse for planes acting a
full but yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna get into
that and just roll with it and have fun.

Speaker 6 (01:23:00):
Yeah, because we're going to have to talk about twilight Zone.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, night or what is it Nightmarre at
twenty thousand feet? Yeah, and then in the twilight Zone movie,
it was with what's his name dude play in third
Rock from my son John Legal. Yeah, and that was

(01:23:25):
Nightmare at thirty thousand feet, which you know shows you
the difference between how high planes flew in the sixties
versus the nineties. But yeah, we'll get into that. And
Texas always, uh, you're welcome to come on if you want,
if you ain't got nothing going.

Speaker 6 (01:23:45):
On, yeah, sure. If I don't have any marketing orders.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't think I have be on Facebook,
but I will definematically sen Monica on there, so it
does not matter. Yeah, make sure Texas gets the link.
You know, I'll definitely shoot it. I'll be vigilant about
it for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:24:07):
Cool. Yeah, I'll holler at you. We'll get together and
we'll set something up to get you on the porch
and talk about the flatter stuff because I've been wanting
to do that for a while, and it's just hard
to find somebody who's willing to have a conversation, you know,
and not get been out of shape when you start
asking questions.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Yeah, no, I'm totally done because I still questioned a
lot of it myself, and and uh yeah, there's there's
just there. I guess what it What it boils down
to is uh, I have more questions about globe nowadays.

(01:24:46):
I'm like, wait a minute, that don't make sense more
than I'm than I am like a believer in the
flatter right, you know, as Yeah, so it just kind
of pushed me onto that that ledge.

Speaker 8 (01:25:00):
And Monican things.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
I'm crazy. I'll send her stuff every once in a while.
She just doesn't even reply.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
I'm like, uh, like, the earth is flat and hollow simultaneously.

Speaker 8 (01:25:14):
We'll see, you know, look up, look up Ancient you know, Aztec, Mayan, Hebrew,
all the old Old And that's what it is, is
a dome with a flat earth with a like a
cavernous system underneath it, you know, And that's.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
So like and then that's where it says in the Bible,
like the separating the waters from above from the waters below.
And then they find these lakes and stuff that are
in the ocean and they can't penetrate them. But it's
like literally like they can slam a so marine into

(01:26:00):
it and they'll watch the waves hit the shoreline. But
it's all under the ocean, so you know, it's like
waters above, so above, so below. You know, gets into
some weird shit, but yeah, I'm down.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
Somebody asked about our New Orleans trip, which is on
the seventeenth of January through the twentieth end of the
whole crew, I am the only one who's is gonna be.

Speaker 8 (01:26:28):
Going now really everybody else fell on you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Well, it's me and well nobody else from like the
major crew. Maybe Bigfoot Michigan rob will make it. It
depends on whether or not the Lions are going to
make playoffs, or depends on how the Lions fare.

Speaker 7 (01:26:48):
Apparently.

Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
Yeah, no, I got I got screwed out of it.
I put it in since we started talking about it,
you know, like three three months ago or something, and
all of a sudden, me and join our bosses, you know,
with their they're a couple, married couple as well, and

(01:27:09):
they're like, oh, well, we're gonna go to California, So
y'all can't take off that weekend. It just happened to
be the same weekend, so it screwed us out of it.
But then they're like, oh, we'll make it up to
you and we'll pay for your trip to Vegas in February.

(01:27:30):
Like man, I would rather went to Oh Man, I
wanted to go eat. Also, uh zoned in on eating
freaking oysters, gumbo, alligator.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
I'm like Vegas, hanging out in the dungeon with the
vampires and money.

Speaker 8 (01:27:47):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
You know, I really, man, going out.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
In the dungeon with you and not felt like a
weirdo because or not dungeon hangout kind of people. So
I'm going to have to like ditch them for a
couple of hours and go hang out in the dang dungeon.

Speaker 5 (01:28:06):
Yeah, dude, I was. I was stoked on it and
it just got taken out from under my feet at
the last minute. Oh yeah, I was. I was. Yeah,
I was. To say the least, I've been going in
late at work since I found out I'm fire me. Yeah,

(01:28:27):
I'm going to come in at one thirty instead of twelve.
Whether you like what you do, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
Seriously, what are you going to do nothing, that's what.
So let's see. I'm going to do my book review
now because I almost forgot about that. Thank you for
reminding me, grand And We're going to do Demon Moon,
book one of the prof Craft book series because I

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like it.

Speaker 7 (01:28:59):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
It is by Brad Magnarella and Prof Croft. It's a
professor Professor of mythology. Monica is tired.

Speaker 7 (01:29:14):
He is a.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
And a secret warlock in the City of New York.
He also has a cat that is possessed by a
demon and is an unusual size and can talk. And
it is book one in an entire long series of
books that have to do with magical realms fairies, which

(01:29:38):
is warlocks, demons, vampires, you name it, it's in there.
And if you are into all of that cool stuff,
then I recommend you to check out the prof Croft series.
It's adventurous, it's he's snarky, he doesn't know everything. He's
still kind of getting his legs under him in the
magical world. So he makes a lot of mistakes and

(01:30:00):
it's pretty interesting, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
And I think that if you like all of those things,
that you'll like this book series. So check it out.
If you are so inclined, I really.

Speaker 6 (01:30:13):
Need to get you to read or listen to Daisy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Darker, Daisy Darker, Daisy Darker. It makes me think of
Darkly Noon.

Speaker 6 (01:30:24):
That's the name of the book, is Daisy Darker.

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
Okay, I'm thinking Darkwing Duck.

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
I think of Darkly Noon, which is one of the
most fed up movies Brandan Fraser ever did. But if
you want to see a hot young Brendan Fraser who
is completely check it out. And he is completely off
his rocker in that movie.

Speaker 8 (01:30:49):
He's actually a very underrated actor as far as.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Oh yeah, absolutely, it's awesome. Yeah, anything else, y'all? Anything
anybody wants to contribute before I hit the end button
and we go to dark.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
Good, I'm good.

Speaker 8 (01:31:08):
We'll see you all tomorrow on the Breezy Speak Easy.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
Yeah, come on over. Check out him. Check out him
at the Breezy Speak Easy check out mister Joe Breezy.
We might get text to come on.

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
You never know. Stranger things have happened for sure. All right,
So for all of us here at our paranormal world,
thanks for tuning in for the whole forty five minutes.
I think we took talking about Christmas horror movies, and
then we went off on tangents about other things, but

(01:31:46):
it's always a fun time and we enjoy talking to
you about whatever comes out of our heads, and we
hope that you catch us next time.