2/20/25 - KC Murphy, Part II

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 3 (00:58):
Apps everybody you know that intro goes on longer every
time I think it's going to end, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
It just keeps going. It's just and going and going going,
like the Energizer.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
You know it said is I don't know do they
still do Energizer bunny commercials?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I think they freaking out of this extream my TV.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
So I don't get like I don't really watch.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like, oh you mean regular commercial.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, I don't really see a lot of regular commercials.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
That's bring texts up here.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I have no idea if they're still doing the energizer.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Many commercials, they rarely have any kind of product placement
other than and even like a lot of you know,
like food companies and stuff. They don't even have those
anymore on regular TV. Like it's all inearance and you know.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Weird insurance the hell out of yourself. So, how was
Vegas breezy? How is your vacation?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Sir? It was good. We're going to talk a little
bit about it tomorrow on the speakeasy. Oh yeah, because
I did get to do a little.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Hot type of a thing and yeah, and I'm going
to break it down because I got a lot to
say on both sides of it.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
He gets on and off a plane and I immediately
start getting text messages about how the Earth is flat.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Hey, the would answer the question, I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
I didn't get any Why don't you got my number?
And I don't hear if you talk about that, I'll
talk about it with you. Bonicam won't give you the
time of day.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
So we were at the terminal in Austin fixing a
leave and it's like one of those where you have
to walk up the ladder to get to it. So
I watched the pilot walk in and I'm like, Bam,
I'm gonna go ask him. She's like, don't freaking embarrass me, dude.
I'm like I'm going. And I was like, all right,
pardon me. I was like, is do y'all fly to

(03:18):
a curve? And he's like, no, dude, there's no curve.
And I was like, you don't adjust for a curve
when you're flying an airplane, just for a curve, because
you'd have to keep dipping down to keep going through.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yay, literally, just flash.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
The atmosphere you are. You're way below there.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Thirty thousand feet. He knew what I was getting at,
and he knew what I was getting that.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
He was like, nah, I'm going to explain this to you.
But the thing of problem, the problem is breezy. For
this for this to be for this to be true, okay, one,
you have to believe in gravity, which you do not, right,
this is true. So this explanation is not going to

(04:04):
mean a hill of bees to you. But if you
believe in gravity, it does. So the amount of thrust
that the plane has when it levels off, Okay, say
thirty two thousand feet, we'll just use a progu mistake Okay,
but you just said, oh, come on, when the plane

(04:31):
reaches its cruising altitude of thirty thousand feet, you're with me, now, yeah,
it's you ain't having a stroke, are you?

Speaker 6 (04:40):
Now?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I got the food and my all my muscles are
of so what can't you just get over that crip?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Dude? No, this time I got it like tenfold, Like
whoh man.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
That sucks. So if they're if they're a cruising altitude,
they're maintaining the thrust that it takes to equate for
the to equalize the gravity to take keep them the
same amount of distance off of the Earth. So they

(05:13):
don't have to so see, it just foddled it.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
It doesn't.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
It doesn't.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
They would have to increase the power to increase that altitude,
which they do. Okay, now if they didn't, if there
wasn't any gravity, why would they have to increase the
power to increase the altitude? Well, I mean.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Because well, it's just like anything.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
If you're trying to get up a flight of stairs,
you're gonna have to go upwards and then you can
level off when you're at the top of the stairs,
you know what I mean? Because as yeah, because it's
a level plane, but on the same on the same fact,
on a flat Earth map, that plane would kind of
have to keep hanging left instead of going down to

(05:58):
go around a curve.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
It can't have to keep.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Oh you know, flat Earth, we just keep taking left.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, we just keep keep Okay, the secrets out. We've
busted this whole thing wide open. The earth is a
NASCAR track.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
The world its flat or around. It's a vampire dream.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Secret destroyer.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Is that what.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
The flame? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (06:36):
Yeah, but yeah, but I had a good time. But
I got back and got sick as a dog. So well,
I'm guessing you brought it back with you and hit
you when you got back. So thanks for bringing it
back to Texas.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
That's what I do.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
That's what I do.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
I'm glad. I'm glad we can I'm glad we can
count on you for that.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah. I got cut off on the plane too, and
I was like, I don't see alcohol for you, sir.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I was like yeah, but no, I wasn't acting a fool.
She was like, that's a lot of alcohol. I was like, dude,
you don't know me, Like that's nothing. That was like
less than i'd have right here.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
My blood alcohol time or my alcohol type is Jose Cuervo. Yeah,
that's my alcohol, my alcohol tip, my blood time. I
can't talk all right, So tonight, Breezy, you missed it
last week.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
We had Kevin on last week, by the way.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, he's pretty awesome. He's got he's had an incredible life.
He's got some pretty cool stories.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You'll have to go back and check it out when.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
You're feeling better. But tonight, Kevin's going to be talking
about his experiences with the Faye, his mother's experience with
the Fay, which was actually pretty interesting, I think. And
then he's got some experiences with vampires that he hasn't
told me about.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
And I need to share this out. Well I'm thinking
about it.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Check what out.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
I need to stare the show out now on.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, so here we go. We're going to bring Kevin
up and.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Hey, guys, there's Kevin. Thanks for having me back every
Thanks for coming back on in the audience. Yeah, that
was a little misleading when I said what the vampires
it That came in one of the form of the
appreciate dreams. But the stuff with the Fase, that's, as
I like to say, leave it to my mom to

(08:42):
upstage me. I don't know how you want it. Where
you want to jump in or where you him jump in?
Wherever you want? Well, you know when we start right there,
I guess My mom was a very strict Catholic, raised
in an orphanage by Irish nuns and from the time
she was six until them when they had to leave

(09:03):
legally at seventeen. And I don't know how much you
know about the Irish Catholic culture as quite as captain.
It was England's first colony. And to say those people
were repressed of being an understatement, but they had to
learn English at gunpoint. Their their own language, their culture

(09:25):
was English. Tried to strip them away, to strip it
away from them, to break their spirits so they would
be less rebellious. That that didn't work. And the reason
I'm mentioning this it was a they were one of
the the Irish, the Celtic people in general, and we're
talking Irish, Scotts and Welsh in the British area. You know,
the continental Celts of course our Gallic, but the Irish

(09:47):
they were, Yeah, they were pagans. They hung horses of
the enemies from the saddle bows of their horses. Wow.
Pretty The Celtic people were really like so many of
the time savage, and when they became Christianized, Catholicized as
it were, a lot of those pagan beliefs were still,
you know, deeply in the culture, to the point that

(10:10):
when when my mother's people came over, there was still
a lot of that, you know that my mother that
was talked about, even with the with the nuns stuff
that was shushed, but you know, it didn't have to
dig far to get beneath the near you know, and
to get to some of that that lore. But to
me as a as a single kid, an only child,

(10:31):
rather than my mother's my dad and mom split up
when I'm just a baby, and my mom, uh, you know,
had to raise me. A single mom was even harder,
I think in those days. But she was very strict,
you know, a strict Catholic. When she finally revealed to
me her experience, you know, I was just astonished because

(10:55):
if you knew my mom, you knew she was She
never missed mass. She was always exactly five minutes late
the Mass. But she was very, very devout, and I
know that he carried her through, you know, what was
a difficult life, you know, by anyone's estimation, my dad
wasn't exactly mister Wright. And my mom had some, you know,

(11:18):
as any single mom does, some enviable challenges. But her faith,
as is with so many so many of us, faith
kept her really strong. So I was just pretty much
fell out of my chair when one day it was
visiting her. She'd had some serious surgery and I could

(11:39):
tell in a tone of her voice that she wanted
to tell me something. And my mother our relationship, to
put in a perspective that would would be helpful to think,
we weren't exactly It didn't have the relationship that I
that I would have preferred. She was a great mom.

(11:59):
I was little. We grew distant as it became a
young man, you know, I was working for a living
at fourteen to help out, you know, and we were
we were mom's challenge. But how do I put this.
Let's pick up at the hospital. I'll get on the
hospital'll see her and she's sitting up in better She's

(12:25):
there was just something different about I knew something was imminent.
I was afraid it was gonna be something serious. Somebody
had discovered by virtue of the surgery and the men
that I got through. She dispelled those fears by you know,
is candidly talking to me. And as she landed into
this story, she said, for once, I don't want you
to talk. Don't interrupt. I love you, son, but you're

(12:49):
sure nothing have not given hy privilege And I'm kind
of glanced around the room.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
There was a lot of medicine vials at present in
her room. And she proceeded at lunch into this story.
She was coming back from lunch and she worked for
attorneys Stuart Stewart Father and Son Company in Washington, DC,

(13:18):
in the business district you know now on K Street
in Connecticut, right around there, and she hid been there
for a long time. The elder treated everyone liked him.
He treated everyone well. And my mom, in this particular day,
was had to meet someone. I said, to take a
bus to go meet this friend of hers for lunch.
And on their way back, she stepped off the bus

(13:44):
and stepped down into what it would be a fourteenth
fifteenth century Irish village. And when my mother said that
to me, you know, our host of you know, visions
came to my mind. And as I started to scan
the room again, she said, there's nothing wrong. I'm not
I haven't taken any there's nothing with a medication, there's

(14:05):
nothing wrong with me. They just just want you to listen.
And her voice was so steady, and her tone was
so well, it's grave, but it relaxed at the same time.
So I wanted to ask her, why, how did you
how could you possibly? You know, guess the you know

(14:27):
the timeframe. But my mom, like myself, was something of
a history nerd. She was more than the political stuff
that was going on in Ireland. But she did a
lot of research and whenever she could afford to, she
save all her money and take that one trip a
year that so many people take, and she would go
to Ireland. And I had a lot of occasion to
wonder where exactly she went. So she steps into this

(14:54):
mist and shrouded village, and a little tiny woman about
four feet tall, walks up to my mother and starts gesticulating.
So she was giving us some kind of blessing and
speaking in Gaelic at a rapid pace. Now, my mother
had not spoken when she was put in the orphanage.

(15:15):
You know, they had to speak English, you know, And
I'm sure some of the nuns still spoke the old language,
but it was not, you know, encouraged, And my mother
consequently didn't know a lot of the words and couldn't
really follow what this woman was trying to tell her.
But this woman took my mother by the hand and
she said my mother says, she was very strong. That

(15:36):
was the thing that got my attention right away, was
that there was a feeling of I want to say power,
but that's not the words he used. So she's taking
my mother through this village and jabbering a mile a
minute and Gaelic, and it was very thick. The mists

(15:57):
was very thick. My mother said, thatch roof huts, you know,
I mean, really primitive. You would think of it as
an Irish Irish peasants, you know, I would imagine it
would be the the imagery would conjure up. And my
mom said, I'm sorry. So I could not make out
what she was trying to tell me, but it was
clear that she was trying to impart something to me.

(16:20):
And after what seemed to be about ten twelve minutes
or so, she took me back to this is exact
spot it was in when this had begun, and when
I asked her how she knew that there was a
stone or something curious stone that was right there that
she knows when she stepped off the bus. Anyway, she's

(16:40):
back on the spot, and the woman, this little tiny
aged woman, gave her this kind of blessing, and then
everything disappeared, and my mother staring at concrete buildings and
hearing the rust of traffic a whole bit just like that,
and then she hears the sound of the bus pulling off,
and what she thought it was like ten minutes was

(17:01):
like ten seconds. And I wish, I wish if you
knew me or my mother better. I mean, I know
how this probably sounds, especially on the heels of the
last week, but I'm not exaggerated syllable, and my only
task really is to turn remember as exactly as I can,

(17:23):
because it was pretty incredible story. As I used to
save the years. Leave it to my mom to upstage me,
and I asked her, I said, Mom, why didn't you
tell me with all the years you know, being a
nerd studying. I mean, my mom with chastise me constantly
ab studying you know, books and demonology and stuff in
the soiler Spring library when I was a kid who
pulled out books on gold you know, uh, Golden Nord

(17:44):
to the Dawn, and Mather's and all the Crowley's, Aleister Crowley,
whose birthday the same as my dubious distinction at best
was the Circles. But and I said, Mom, with all
that and my searching and connecting with Master Wong, it
was my like a father me for years, and the
studies of so many things Eastern, you know, outside, you know,

(18:06):
the Eurocentric Christian paradigm. And before I could go any further,
she said, because they wanted to g be a good
Irish Catholic boy and not chased after this woou stuff.
And I just said, how could you call it? I mean,
after experiencing and then telling me, And she just got
very impatient and very irritated and flustered and turned about

(18:28):
three shades of red. And that conversation ended because my
mom said the conversation was over. She meant that, and
it stuck with me through the years, and these Prishian
dreams I've had, you know, And it's funny, right, not long.
I try to know how many years it was after that,

(18:49):
about five years after my mother passed, and uh, the
Prescian dreams that I shared the last of the Pussian
dreams I shared last week. One of them was not
of my mother, and I remember when she passed over.
I saw her, and it wasn't the kind of dynamic

(19:12):
where you look at it. I was looking at her,
she was looking at me. She was I was looking
at her profile. She's talking to me at the phone
and I'm looking straight at her. And she's in an
old looked like an old European village or something like that.
But at the time a dream. I didn't think about it,
and I'm only thinking about it now as I'm very
leading the story anyway, just told me not to worry.
Everything's okay, And that was the dream I had about her.

(19:36):
But I don't know how how that's interesting to you.
I remember Monica me do the story of the Fae
with a Welsh fe at some point. It made me
think about that story my mom's because when I brought
it up not long before she passed away, she just
looked at me real seriously and she said, well, you know, Kevin,
that's blaspheming when you talk about it. Because I wasn't

(19:58):
implying she was lying. I just wanted to hear retell it.
You know. It was so fantastic to me. I mean,
as I said last week, I watched my girlfriend's face
more luckily re arrange yourself night after night, you know,
and look not only like other people, but look like
people that were so beautiful that even was human. So
I've seen some stuff, you know, and she just looked

(20:20):
at me. I think she was a little insulted, that
was but I just wanted.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Her to retell it.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
But she said, no, that happened. It happened just the
way I said it.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Did she ever talk to you about the Fay when
you were growing up being an Irish?

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
No? No, I mean she would encourage talks and she
knew it was I was a nerd about history, ancient history,
and she encouraged for me to learn everything that could
about or Irish background because you know, we didn't have much,
the two of us, and don't have any family. You know,
my dad was raised in the res. He was what
people would call it half breed, and we never had anything,

(20:56):
you know. She moved so many times and tried to
keep the change of address, you know, a vacant so
he could ever find us, you know. So it was
just the two of us. But she was really you know,
you could I could make some obvious, you know, assumptions
in terms of a psychiatric psy psychological she didn't. She
was really leaning into that because she didn't have much

(21:18):
to lean on when we uh, when I came back
from California, Ah, she was so the experience at the
at the orphan is residentd so powerful with her that
she maybe take a train trip up with her and
maybe stand in the exact spot she was standing in

(21:38):
with the nuns told her her mother was dead. She
was like six and a half, so that but she
never brought that up. But my mother was really eerily
tuned in, you know, and like so many of us,
when you're close to someone, uh, you know, the phone
rings and do you know it's them? You know, we've

(21:58):
all had stuff like that. But I'll tell you an
interesting thing that relates to the medium that I was
sharing with last last week, when my mom came out
to see who were a little boy. Was shacked up
with my first official living girlfriend, and I was a
slow started with girls. I lost my virginity late compared
to most guys, and I'm twenty one. A little with

(22:19):
Meredith and I'd already seen so many. I had been
watching her in trance night after night for at least
a month before my mom came, you know, burreling out
to see who a little boy was with. And we
went out to dinner. In the middle of dinner, I
didn't know where Meredith said, that was not a professional name,

(22:39):
by the way, I think you asked me. I think
what her name was professionally, but I'll get that in
a minute. And in the middle of dinner, Meredith looked
at my mother said, reader, why didn't you ever tell
Kevin about his name in Ergon heritage? Now for years
my mother told me I was Italian, said, your Irish
and your Italian. That's why you can get ten because
most people are pure Celtic blood, as you probably know,
can't really and they're either white or red. And that

(23:03):
was the case that my mother had to carry parasol
a little lunch. But I got dark, you know, and
I got really dark, really fast. But you know, just oh,
I'm telling you, okay, well ironic that someone is fascinated
with studying history and categories of people in their backgrounds
would knows a little about his own. But you know,

(23:23):
my mother says something that was gospel to me, you know,
up up to a point. And uh, I mean at
the point of my of our relationship, I should say.
So I looked at my mom like the RCA Victor dog,
you know, and looked over at Meredith, and my mom
got red as tomato and said, I don't think it's
any of your business, Meredith, and Merrith said, well, you're right,
but it certainly is his. So I drove my mom

(23:48):
on the airport and just badgered her, you know, relentlessly.
She wouldn't talk about it, and she never taught would
talk about it until about twenty years later I was
diagnosed with the first of two cancers I've had. And
then she laid down on the my on the sofa
in my in my room and talked in a monotone
voice like someone gypnosis and unravel a tale that was

(24:09):
like something that I have a dick is now and
dad to do with my father, you know. And I'd
explained it because I never I noticed that when I
got tan, I never got out of it was always
a deep, deep copper brown. And uh, so much for
appearances anyway, I say.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
A native like in you when I'm when I look
at you, I can see it so clearly.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, I think some people see what they want to see.
I just want to know who I was, you know,
like you know, so many my friends I kept like
they take their own background, their own background for granted.
But when I started to visit the reservations, I noticed
that there was a lot of light eyed light. I
heard people you know, of mixed blood and uh as
things politically change, and you know, racially, I live to

(24:54):
see a lot of things. I'm seventy now, and thank
god I lived to see the changes that I have
when it comes to people becalor nothing is more important
to me in this world than race, because you cure
so many problems with racial hatred taken away. You know,
homeless is hunger, all the different prejudice and gradations of tone, color,

(25:16):
and the infighting and all these so you know, that's
it's ironic when I went to the Reds to see
how many Irish were there as well, and it made
purpose sense because when the Irish came here, they were
so ostracized that they when they did marry outside their
own culture, they usually they married the only other cultures
that were there in any numbers, which is African Americans

(25:36):
and Navy America, because everyone else was as far as
Irish conserted way beneath them, and you know that hatred
is still built in. And I was digging in Europe
as recently as the ninety I was the ninety five
was the London on a gig and I went to
to a pub and it had enough time in between
dates that I felt like I could let my hair down,
you know. And I don't really drink a lot easily,

(25:58):
you know, but I just wanted to blow it out,
blow out to a carbon. So I was sitting there
and the bar was owned by a guy from from London,
and I just could tell that he was from deep
pockets and this fate would O'Connor would have it. His brother,
who was a musician by hobby, was also here sequestered
to my left at the end of the bar, and

(26:20):
this big barrister guy came up to me and said,
we go, oh, yank well nine, you know, I said,
Min's Kevin, you know Kevin Ward. You know, I said Murphy,
I would go to the Irish, and I said, well,
I'm Irish American, and saying that he goes, you know,
we call the people that used the N word of Europe.
And I fell off my cheer and I said, what

(26:40):
did you say? And this is a this is a
big guy. But you know, when you get mad, you
don't care. And uh, I said, what did you just say? Man?
And he said it again and man, we were rolling
to him like a couple of alley gags. Fortunately for me,
he was pretty drunk, you know. Uh, he was a
big guy, but he was drunk. And it took about

(27:00):
five or six guys to get us apart. And apparently
he was a bully, so they threw him out. And
the guy said, I'm so tired. This guy thinks these
guys have got money can do whatever he wants in
salt my page. He's but you, you know, you got
a Tampa on you. And he pulls me down to
where his brother was and we ended up becoming good friends.
He was having trouble getting CDs for some reason. Amazon
was not another job, but this guy had a place

(27:22):
in Antigua. Like a long story, not too much longer.
We exchanged addresses and numbers and I mailed him five CDs.
He tried to give me money for which you know
you're on holiday, and no, I don't worry about it.
You know, I'm good. And two weeks after I sent
the CDs, I got two round trip tickets for my
girl and I had to go to to Antiga. He
put us up at this place he had a bookstore

(27:43):
called the First Edition, which mayor and I still be there.
But so there you go from calling and being called
the N word of Europe and uh so, you know,
but my mother was telling me quite a bit. And
when I was under reds it was amazing that me
people had Irish names there that I was. And they're
trying to research my family because my mother protect me,
you know, gave me virtually no information. I had one

(28:06):
picture of my dad the whole time. But you know,
you talk about the fay. I knew my mother's had
to have been and this didn't occur to me until
I started talking about this recently with you. I know
my mom had to have been some places where the
Jewids were strong, because you know, that wasn't the only
time she had the experience like that, But she wouldn't
tell me about the other one. I could never get

(28:27):
it out of her. Before she passed. My mom had
Alzheimer's and she had it for a while before we
knew it. She read four cars for DI her license
away from her. But she had another experience, but she
I think she was so shaken from me because you know,
the Catholic faith, especially in those days, was practiced. I mean,
we didn't even eat meat on Fridays, and you know,

(28:48):
having sex outside of marriage was immortal sin. And you know,
there was a lot of backward stuff going on.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I don't want to offend any of your listeners. I
hope I'm not. I wouldn't fit anyone for the world
man go to mean mode in my body. But it
was primitive, you know, and I could set sad at fourteen,
you know, when I was becoming a young guy out
there working and stuff. But and if my mother had
more than that, she kept it through herself. I know
she had one other experience. I'm sorry that, you know,

(29:16):
thanks for nothing. I wanted to bring it up, but
my mom was definitely touched, you know. And I think
that when I started explaining that Persian dreams, especially when
they related to people, that she knew that, she started
to pull up a chair. I don't know what she
thought at first, but as h as I said, she
just wanted me to pursue a more you know, legitimate

(29:36):
you know.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
You know, I think that she probably had the same
ability that you had in being raised in the orphanage
that she was raised in. He it would be suppressed.
They wouldn't encourage that, they would suppress that.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Well, this this rosary ear was the god mother my sister,
sister Mary assumption to get my mother safe and relatively
sane and place that's hers. And that's why I was
able to hear it from from from all that that's great,
but my mother was she she when I shared some
of the dreams that I share with you, and I

(30:12):
believe either they's just a tip of that iceberg. I
don't know how valuable this is to do, but there
was one that she was real good friends with a
guy that lived in my building and uh elderly African
American guy. He was actually the first African American hoar
by Sears of Roebuck, and she became very close to them.

(30:33):
And I think the reason he was almost as close
to her an agency was to meet and he was
like a mentor, and no way to put it, he
passed away and it just devastated me. But we used
to have a lot of long existential talks, like the
guy that kind of talks that you guys dotedly have

(30:57):
with each other and yourselves, the warp and wolf of things,
you know, the where and why. And I used to
talk to him candidly about Meredith and my experience of meditation,
and he always used to And this guy was the
most intrinsically spiritual person you'd ever wanted to meet, guys,
but he just he said, I can't I just can't sanction.

(31:20):
I cannot understand any kind of creative power that would
allow this chaos and cruelty, the same thing to all
of us, wonder, you know. And you know he was
so deeply intellectual too, So we go around and around,
you know, and we read him one thing that love
was really all that matters, you know in this world.
Really well, not all that matters, but certainly, you know,
the most important from the exidential perspective. And he used

(31:43):
to say to me kastantly, I can't find a church
that works for me. And when he passed away, I
dreamed that I was back at the club. I had
the longest tenure out I had a residence place for
about eight years. And in my dream, I'm back there
and I can't find out the guys who were about
to go back for the next set, and the phone

(32:04):
rings in my pocket. I got a sport code on
which I didn't always work for gigs. But I look
at him, but the pocket is sewed up, so I
can't get to it. And at the same time, I'm
going through that head trip, like what's that message? What
that's supposed to do? I see him come up from
the kitchen dressed to the nines. And when Bill came out,
especially here as play, he'd always dressed up, you know.
And uh, he's hold the plate of soul food but

(32:25):
in the restaurant we had, we specialized soul food. And
he's looking at me and he says, in his very
grave voice, Kevin, I finally found a church that works
for me. And I woke up and had the goosebips
ever were just like right. So that was one of
the uh, one of the many appreciate dreams. I think

(32:51):
you would call them. Meredith I lost touch with to
help some of your viewers just tuning in. She was
part of a better physical group called the Church of
mind science that was headed by guy named Damian Simpson.
And Mereth was a medium from a long line and
medium is a gift handed down from mother to daughter,
going back generations in France. Her own mother, like my mother,

(33:12):
was a strict Catholic of the gift, so to speak, terrifieder.
But Meredith was a hippie, you know, and just they
were self head first into that existential breach and the phenomena.
And I remember her counseling me many times, you don't
get caught up the phenomena. You know, I'm doing this
because after you shared that dream with me, I knew

(33:35):
that this was that was a sign that and I
think she knew that she was gonna help mentor me
and through her I discovered the meditation techniques I practiced
to this day fifteen years later. But you know, I
had done hallucinigens liberally LSD twenty five range sunshine, not

(33:55):
for an extensive period of time, like about a year,
you know, on weekends when I wasn't playing football or
doing whatever with the fellows. But it was the phenomena,
The visual and the auditory things that I experienced under
that heightened state were pale in comparison to what I

(34:17):
experienced with Meredith. The molecularly rearrangement of the room from
the manifestation of nature spirits, which someone asked about last week,
I think, right in front of me, to her own face,
molecually be arranging yourself when she went in transcend. Every
night that she did this, she would do this really long,
long prayer, long invocation, and then the room, well, first

(34:42):
you could almost hear the silence. Everything would be turned
off for the lights to be turned off in the room,
but a towel would be put over one lamp so
you could see but not too well, you know. But
the first visual phenomena that I would notice would be
the sensation of like heat waves, and that's the best
way to describe what it looked like visually in the room.

(35:05):
And then colors would start flooding in. And if you
if you want me to stop there, Monica, I don't
know how much I should go over from uh from
last week and how much I don't remember if we
talked about the nature spirits or not, but usually when
she went into trance. If anyone, if any of the
three of you have done the loosers, you know, that

(35:26):
that sensation when when things start to move around, when
the foot well, I saw that man that uh joe,
that she would start to do that. Well, first the
first thing would happen, but it would look like a
like a negative from a camera like black. Her whole
face and film uh form would be covered like a

(35:46):
black with a yellow like outlet around it. Right, that
would dissipate and her face would start to literally that
we you know, mole likely move and it would The
features would be so difful when they resemble themselves that
it was like you're looking through a view master or
just going from portrait to point that clear, that distinct,

(36:08):
and there are always of females and I have no
idea why. And they were so beautiful they didn't look human.
And when I asked her, you know what the significance
of that was, she said, well, you know, I'm completely
out when this happens, I might as well be it
with thories that I'm completely unconscious with. But I'm channeling.
He said, what does your gut tell you? And I said,

(36:29):
I think that you'd be tuning into other mediumistic people.
But why would they all be women and why would
they all be that beautiful, She said, I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Maybe that's just how they were showing themselves to you.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, I mean, and you know at the time I
wasn't really the idea of extraterrestrials and everything that's sit
shit and all the work it's been done in the
last half century since I had this experience speaks for herself.
If you guys are probably is you know, ted this
more learner than I am. But we've come so far.

(37:03):
And you know, at the time that I was sharing
some of these people, I remember, this is the perfect
time to do it, you know, and the perfect show
to do it, you know, fellas I'm at the risk
of showing I have be done what I saw night
after night after night after night, and it was you know,
when I remember, I would get up like a child,
I say, can we do this again tonight? And she

(37:24):
listened to look at me and say, sure, I told you,
And I mean we hardly evel at the house, and
one of the times we did, I think I shared
it last week I gave back again. The place was
so fill of ectoplasm it looked like it was on
fire still everywhere fire department. And then she asks the
phone away. He says, you know, this has been a
big mistake. This is not a prank. We're sorry, and

(37:45):
you know, I'm just looking incredibly at her. And when
she hangs up and she starts laughing, I said, she
has actoplasm. She I'm amazing this hasn't happened sooner because
we would do this every night in here, and she
was a powerful medium. I mean, if you could see
for ten seconds what I saw every night. And this
has been half a century since I saw her. I

(38:06):
mean I've had many things happened since then, and many
appreshian dreams that were phenomenal, you know, but this when
I'm specifically this happened, but it's burned into my into
my soul, and I mean in the best possible way.
She was almost like a Madonna like individual. And I
was dating a girl at the time. And you know,

(38:27):
I was never a player. The opposite of a player.
You know, Jerry lewis not the laugh track. You know,
maybe I'm dating myself. I don't how many your listeners
who Jerry lewis comedian was, But anyway, there was a
gal that I was just crazy about, and the chemistry
was just so profound and I had to make a
decision the two of them, you know. And I never
developed that polished persona so many guys do, where they

(38:50):
just balance girls that they date Simultanosi. Just that's not me,
never was. I just wanted to find one gal, connect
with it, be with her, you know. But I had
to make a decision, and I knew she was not
only a man done. I only recognized, not only did
I recognize how drigically spiritual she was and how much

(39:11):
more advanced she was, and which isn't say much. At
the time. I may have been touched, so to speak,
like so many people are, but I was not evolved,
you know, a big difference. So I was getting these
gifts in the form of these dreams for a reason.
And I remember she said, you know, many a call,
but few were chosen. And I just wanted to learn

(39:33):
everything I could. I just had been, you know, studying
from a kung fu teacher, and some of the things
I saw him do for miraculous enough, what he could
do with just this energy as cheap. That's another conversation.
But you know, like somebody who had at that age,
you're wide open like a sponge, and if you're forgeably
around someone who's positive. It has a lot to show you,

(39:53):
teach you. It's experience you never forget, and like this
individual phenomenon was just I mean, the colors of light
sweeping through the room, it was just I've never experienced anything,
and I've taken, like I said, some powerful usages organic
and chemical. And to be completely straight, I wasn't even

(40:16):
drinking a beer or even smoking weed, you know, at
the time. I want to.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
I want to talk a little bit about the dreams
you were having about the vampires, because a lot of
our listeners are very interested. You know that.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
It's a perfect time for this, and I, uh, you know,
there's one of the podcasters, you know, who's got such
a wide he drawn with such a white palette, and
to hear where will the vampire spoken of? We're living
an age where I think it's not going to live
to say that. The abuse of ritual magic, you know,

(41:01):
it's just rampant, you know, and super soldiers gone on.
Someone ta. We lived in an amazing time. At the
time that I had this appreciated dream of the vampires,
I was afraid to tell anybody that this happened. Right
before I came back to California. So we're talking to
twelve that year. I mean the climate existential that I

(41:24):
was in at the time that I was living with Meredith.
I mean, I'm in California, so it's not like living
in twist, Arkansas at that time, you know. But still
some of my friends are trying to share with them.
When I'm sharing with you guys who it was, you know,
people are like, really, you know, and you weren't high
and nothing, you know, I mean, and I get that,
I get that, but I'm not running for office. Man,

(41:44):
I got no agenda here than to share what happened.
And like I said, I'm not exactly the syllable. So
these dreams continue to happen and other than positive until
it wasn't right. And one, I always have these freaking
things that like in the morning, it's always like between
like nine and nine thirty. I don't know why that

(42:04):
is at any hour. I had a dream that I
was looking at two rows of vampires dressed elegantly like
an ant Riis thing. And I never really I loved
her first book, but she made them too elegant for me.
You know, if I'm won't get to that layer. But
They're like torture. Two rows of vampires, men and women,

(42:29):
and they're staring at me with such malevolence and such
awareness that you know, I woke up, like I always
do with these dreams, with a hair staying up in
my arms and neck. And but I was quite shaken
from this. But I was hesitant to share it with anybody,
even my well maybe Mike, my best friend. I mean,
imagine anyone that's on the fence about something that you

(42:51):
know that I've shared about the medium, and then you,
you know, you try and run this one by it.
You know, it's really but what I really, we'll never
forget was the sense of awareness that was imparted to me.
There was no words, It was all telepathic, and I

(43:13):
was shaken. And I've been through a lot, you know,
it takes a lot to shake me these days. And
I was just really recovering from that when I had
it having another version of that. They appeared to be again,
you know, two rows and spensive evil.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
No, I mean, what do you feel that that was?
I have no idea. What don't fire?

Speaker 3 (43:39):
What that how that was significant?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I was in a dark time of my life. I
was not meditating regularly. I had been through a lot,
chased out of the city I lived. I always sell
a weed to pay for my cancer treatment. And I
went through living hell. Man, I was I was betrayed
by the very guy I gave thousands of dollars to
when he was fired from his job. And I didn't

(44:04):
have it like that. Man. I grew up poor, you know.
But and I don't mean to stay up take a
bow for being kind. I mean, that's just that's not
what we do. You know. We do the right thing
when no one's watching, because it's who we are, hopefully,
But you know, the irony is evident, you know. And
I went through a lot. I went through a lot.
I had to reinvent myself at practice age of fifty

(44:24):
thousand miles from anywhere. I knew because a guy who's
rent I paid for a couple of years said I
got you. And I said, well, you know, the FEDS
are right behind me. He says, fuck them, mark language.
I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yeah, that's all right, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
We say that word all the time here. Good, you
know the etiquette. Man, I don't get out much these days.
I'm not even gigging as much. As I used to.
But anyway, so you know, I was in a very
difficult time, you know, and was homeless at what point,
you know, I was when they brought me in for questioning.

(44:57):
God don't know how much I should share legally, man,
this is I'm sorry, should have talk?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Are you share whatever you're comfortable sharing?

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Like I don't wanted about.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Anyway, I don't blow your witness protection. I mean nothing.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Good my text, no, man, I mean I wasn't an
important man, you know either volume I was doing. But
the guy that was applying me was a big guy,
you know. And I'm afraid to say that name, but
I'll tell you in private, Monica, and what I do?
You go, oh okay?

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Uh ship.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
So when the time I had this dream, I was
living up in New York. My mother's best friend, beautiful
black Irish woman who was like a tall version Elizabeth Taylor,
and she she got my mom hooked up. Uh got us,
you know in the last at tab to try and

(45:54):
get us in the same page as we were. We
were not closed. In the last several years, my mom
went slowly mad and I was, you know, going through
what I was going through. So I moved up to
Upstate New York and it was terrible at the time.
You know, I didn't know anyone there, I wasn't young,

(46:14):
and my financial status was so visual to even have
a car. I managed to turn things around and get
my band get working again with musically speaking, the last
year was there, but I was not in a good state.
But it seems like it doesn't matter what kind of
stage of me in my life where these dreams happened.
I mean, they've been far away ninety nine nine percent.

(46:36):
They've been the kind of things that you wake up
and you go, oh, thank you, that was a gift,
you know, but not this one. But I knew there's
a certain feeling that I get, so I know that
it's you know, like, how do you know it's how
do you separate a dream from one of those? Well
I can't. They're just different, That's the only way I

(46:57):
could describe it. And uh, but this was I've never
felt such evil never. I mean, I've been it's a
rough place, you know, with rough you know, cartel, those
kind of people, you know, sociopath pathologically, just but this
was something as uh as corny as it sounds, a threat.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
To my spirit, you know, well, there's the difference between
just the you know, the feeling of when you're around
dangerous people and then when you're around something that's truly
evil and supernatural for lack of a better word. There,
those are completely different feelings.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Well, we all know what it's like to know your
life's in peril. Everyone's walked in a situation or had
a situation hatched one and we're all of a sudden,
it's your ass and you better be ready. It's going down,
and it's legal, and uh I swear it as some
deep waters, you know. And uh I was never a

(48:01):
threat to anybody, you know. I just I'm the musician
and was just doing this to pay his radiation treatment,
you know. I mean, I wasn't really trying to conquer
the world some of wheat, you know. Ah so, but
I've been around some pretty dangerous characters. Either feel anything
remotely like this ever, Yeah, not even a close second.

(48:23):
And you know, when you're being followed by you know,
some of the people at work for a government, they
can be pretty.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Creepytty, terrifying getting followed by anybody.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Bones tap house bug. I mean for years, not weeks,
fellows and months, but for years at a time. M hmm,
I'm just trying to imagine the tongue. Lastly, when to
get from my attorney, he said, did you really say this?
You can stop talking about it. You know what we
can do.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
We can shift gears over.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
To Oh, that's on me. I did this, You didn't
this bath.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Pretty cool friend you have. Let's talk about your friend
who was in the underworld maybes, because I think that
everybody was it was.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Pretty cool that you have a friend.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Well, yeah, really interesting friends.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Let me just put it that way.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I know that you know a lot of very interesting
people agree.

Speaker 8 (49:10):
Well, you know, when you if you if you're out
in the public eye like that, you know, uh, if
you're play in a band that's visible, regardless of how
you would judge how good or not good.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
If you're just out there, you know, I think the
chance of being people that go way up. And and
I think if you if you, if people send your commitment,
your devotion to something, then you then that goes up
even more. That you know, you get a quality of people.
What type of person that? Yeah, sure the dynamic is
enhanced by virtue of that, right. Yeah, this guy was

(49:44):
working security across the street, then he was a large guy,
and he had a voice that he could recite the
phone book and get people excited. And he came into
the club and uh, I remember that's basically how how
I became aware of him. But his the irony is

(50:06):
that the under underworld serious. The initial content was a
metaphor for interracial dating, and yeah with the Empire. Yeah,
I mean, I don't think I would have believed if
I hadn't heard it directly from him anyway, but he
I remember when I sent him some some extras and

(50:28):
I started writing when I left DC and the Holocaust,
as you can imagine, I was in an expressive mood
and I started to write, and all the voracious reading
i'd done of metaphysical, mythological, historical things started to pour
on the page in different guises. And I sent him
some things. He said, send me three things that you're
most confident of. And when I did, he said, Uh,

(50:52):
he is very encouraging, he said, you know, ask him
to come out there. I can't really say what he
is itself too self aggrandizing, but see encouraged to come
out and uh, and we and when I got here,
he wanted me to like he helped me up with
the photos and I said, no, I'm too old to
be an actor. Man, I said, I've got my hands
with the writing thing. Man is why I think he'd
be an actual But so he's a really good guy

(51:14):
and the series was hatched. The way he broke it
down for me is that he was an extra on
the movie Stargate and the director for the Underworld movies
was a graphic artist and I don't think he had
directed anything of note at the time. He was just
working on the film like my friend Kevin was, and

(51:35):
they shared a pizza and mutual stories and he started
to sketch the uh, the creatures that Kevin was is.
Kevin unraveled the plot, you know, the basic you know,
layout of the whole world, this universe. He started sketching.
And when they were going down the hallway of Lakeshore Productions.

(52:00):
From what I remember Kevin saying, it was that Kate
Beckis said, I was coming towards them and saw the sketchbook.
He said, what's that?

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Who are you guys?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You know? And I don't know how to be honest.
I was in the impression, remembering that they She helped
lead the meeting, but it might not happen right away,
but she definitely helped close the deal and ended up
starring in the films, which I think they've had four sequels.
I think the first two are really good. The third
Room was not bad either, because you know, Kevin was

(52:30):
really featured and that it was cool to see him
do that, you know, get more care of her time.
So that's the most I can share about that. You know,
he's encouraged me. He's demonished me a couple of times
to not being tving my act more together. I mean
that treatment is done and stuff like that. But I'm
busy living man, you know, trying to do the best

(52:51):
I can in here. But I write supernatural historical fiction
and I have some I've written articles about chess players.
I used to play chess in the tournaments when I
was younger. And I've written articles with boxers for boxing Easy.
You know, they say right what you know, and I
don't think it's bad advice. So that helped me get

(53:12):
on the playing field, get at least established and published
and get paid a little bit. And uh, and I
have I was offered to to sell a story to
Tony Elders is one of the producers of the Denzel
Washington Equalizer movies, and he's a really nice guy and
I love those films. I like Denzel Washington. Who doesn't

(53:33):
like Denzel. I mean, he's just an incredible actor, you know,
and he's got such you know, vibe about him. Everything
he does, he elevates it. I thought he was brilliant
and Malcolm back to everything he's done, and uh so
he offered I said him an excerpt then when I
said you Monica, which is kind of a backdrop to
my own take on the Robert John Mythos, you know,

(53:56):
the Blues Men sells the soul of adult the Crossroads.
But and then I invoke a lot of Haitian and
African history of the Lord to try and get people
a background because voodoo of itself was really kind of
a It's not about spells and zombies, and that's that's
something called pollably yambie. There's other names for too, but Vudu,

(54:16):
their basic religion just means not the spirit and the
language of the people, the fund and that is just
emerging of Catholicism and Africa. Is nothing evil about it.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
A lot of people don't realize that that there. It's
heavily influenced by Catholicism.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Well, they realized right away when they were being converted
that the Catholics had as many saints as they did.
And by they, I mean that there's a cosmology, a
collective metaphysic hierarchy that that was pervasive as it was
consistent and from the coast and we was after to
the Congo and the names are different, but the basic,
you know, it was it was an animism kind of

(54:54):
driven thing where you have spirits for of the ocean
and all the different elements and very you get meticulously,
you get hierarchy. And so they just created this as
you probably you guys probably know because they just transport
I say, Peter became Legbo and every scene of a
Catholic origin had a corresponding African name. And this thing

(55:17):
was created. The beautiful religion at the core of it,
which is based on love and healing, you know, but
you know, as you not know have discovered, every major
religion has a dark side. There are people who when
unhappy or pressed, will go and they call it the
black Mass. And Catholic you know, when the evil ages
with the plague was sweet, people were giving up their

(55:39):
belief of God and Bridge and Mary and you know,
so when we when we turned to you know, so
every so that is the dark side. I hate to
evse that word, but everything is about color. But I
learned a lot. And it was right around that time
that I was starting to really hatch the story they

(55:59):
had to experience with with the cryptid, you know. And uh,
but before that happened, I forgot to tell you. In
my room one one night when I was uh studying,
I had just watched Maya Daring. My adare was cinematographer,
went to Haiti with the idea of doing a documentary
about dance and became was so moved by what she saw,
the miracles she saw that she became a devuite and

(56:22):
her the first any first edition copies of her book
are very valuable. And uh.

Speaker 9 (56:31):
You see the second Yeah, how you doing there, Joe,
I'm all right, sorry about that.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
My whole body.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Herds going to put it off there. And just so
I was studying, I was watching this this incredible documentary
which you guys got to see. Uh, I have a
copy of here, I'll bring over in a minute. And uh,

(57:04):
I watched a picture that was leading like that, that
kind of not like but at an angle, I had,
you know, literally go forward and fall off the shelf
right in front of me. And I wasn't hying anything.
That kind of stuff, you know, didn't happen in my
life with any frequency. The things I've shared with you

(57:26):
guys did. Like I said, I never exaggerated syllable. I
just tried to remember everything, you know, and it's funny
how things come back to you. Barton asked me to
ask you about to mention the nature spirits. I don't
know if I covered that last week. I don't think
I did, or not very much. But one of the
things that happened when she went and trance, guys, is

(57:48):
that I never saw a portal open up like I
never saw a tube or tunnel when I had the
couple after projections I shared last week. That didn't happen
for me like a dost of other people.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Not everybody does, but just boom out of their body.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
What her would her? Always she would do this very
long invocation prayer and it was only a prayer. I'm
invocation someons up so many different you know images. She
would just start off a heavenly Father, Divine Mother, Jesus Christ,
saints of all religions were gathered here, and I hope
that you will manifest your friends and really get into it.
And it would there. The feeling of conviction was so

(58:29):
strong that the sense of peace that would pervade the
room was just unmistakable. And that's why I never felt
vaguely uncelebrate anything I saw, And which is what I'm
leading to this. She would go from this negative effect
where her just black with yellow around it, when when
what she described the nature spirits of manifest that would

(58:52):
dissipate and right in front of her there wouldn't be
like a portal or anything open up, but right in
front of her these images would collect and form and
they looked like gargoyles and were wolves. And I never
heard a dogman at the time, and I had no idea,

(59:15):
but as they looked horrific. If I could, if I
was a talented, gifted artist, I wish I could draw
what I saw.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
I mean, just.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Unbelievable, incredible. But I never felt vaguely disquieted because the
vibe in the room was so it was so peaceful.
Guys that after about ten minutes every night, I would
fall asleep, and the first time was happening. I looked
at her in credits and I said, how could I
fall asleep? And she just put her hand on my

(59:45):
should and said, you're being healed. But there was a
powerful healing vibe in the room, guys, I'm telling you.
And this happened every night after night. We were there
at that location for three months before we moved up
the lawn beach. Your mom got sick and I moved
into the y m c A, which ran in cheap
rooms at the time, and she moved in with her mom.
But any given the nature spirits these things were, and

(01:00:10):
just as just as defined an appearance as her own
face was, and why she always resent why her face
was metamorph into females. I asked her about that, and uh,
hoping not repeating myself, I'm getting old, But she said, well,

(01:00:30):
what do you think it is? Kevin? I said, well,
I think that when you're in that that vibe, you're
in that energy, you're you you, You somehow immediately connect
with other energies in this reciprocal wherever they are. And
but why would they all be women, and why would
they all look like movie stars? Didn't even they make
Marilyn Monroe look plain. I'm not kidding guys, I just

(01:00:52):
it was stupefying. And she said, I don't know. I'm
completely out when that happens, I'm not as will be dead.
And I had some friends of mine asked, hey, do
you ever try and go to the horse races man?
And no, I mean, I won't lie about about wondered
about it, but I never never thought to try and

(01:01:16):
capitalize on her gift. Well I thought about it, but
I don't have the guts to ask her anyway. Yeah,
the nature spirits that that happened pretty frequently, but I
would say like maybe ten percent of all the times.
And when you watch something like that on a nightly
basis for months, you know it was really something. And

(01:01:43):
she said, you know you're not going to grow just
observing phenomena. You have to work out it the way
you do your guitar and your kung fu and your chest.
And I said, why do I do that? I'm not
exactly mother Teresa. She said, well, you know you you
learn how to meditate and said, you remember what your
master ssed to talk about. I said, well, I was gifted,

(01:02:04):
but I wasn't advanced, so we never learned she gung
or neither higher I did you know I had left
them after a late year formal practice, that I stayed
in touch with them, and the fact that he came
to visit me not long after. But anyway, so she said,
but I want you to read this book, and when
you do, I want you to send away for the
lessons because you can cultivate this this energy, this power

(01:02:25):
that your witness, that you're part of, that we all
are heir to by cosmic heritage, said, we all have
access to this?

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
You know? And then she quoted Christ. Is it not
written that your gods and children of the Most High?
And uh, I said, well, let's kind of open for interpretations.
She'd just read the book. So I read the book
and said, for the amount of money you spent taking
me to dinner, you can get the entire meditation course.
And I'm happy to say that all these years later,
these meditation techniques are still very you know, it's a

(01:02:55):
nonprofit organization and I don't not push it any agenda here,
believe me, but it was kind of reassuring at a
time with scientology, you know, so many things were gaining
ascendency and things that were I was having a hard
time with. You know, you know when I knew they

(01:03:16):
weren't trying to get in my pants, in my pocket,
you know, so okay, and the techniques they work with
the precision of mathematics. You know, that's that simple.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Sorry, I was just gonna say, you touched on something
that that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I'd like to do.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
I'd like to have you on some time talking because
I don't know how they would The whole religion thing
is is kind of the scientology side of things. I mean,
you you kind of you've had the experience with dealing
with people that were involved in that. I am my
mom mistaken.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I went to a guy's house. In fact, I was
beating up really really badly before I right right before
I left a hitchiked. I had experience. I met Muddy Waters.
He was a hero of mine. He was like meeting
a folk hero. And that week, the years like seventy
seventy six was the anniversary, of course, of a country
and a lot of folk music heroes are being you know,

(01:04:15):
trotted through DC and they were being featured at a
venue called the Cellar Door, right, and you know, Muddy Waters.
I mean it was like meeting Paul Bunyan, you know,
or John Andrews.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
I mean, I just and I remember, Hey, I know
it's getting late. N No, No, you're good, old man.
I'll just go around.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
Hey, it's all good. I know, brazy sick, Monica's tired,
and but I really I would love to, like if
we can, and I don't know if Monica's okay with that,
have like a part three and we could I really
want to drill into this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Well, you better check with your coores there. I mean,
I anything I could do, you know, men, we know
the climes. We're in it right now. I kind of
feel like someone's open Pandora's box, the soldiers and black
ops to all the ritual magic.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
It's the dog man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I mean, it's like I'm seventy and I've never seen
a world like this. Man, I'm not so I feel
like there's anything I could do this positive here that
would help anyone in any way. To me, we're here
to to love each other, to contact the creator the
way we understand it. It calls to me that relationship

(01:05:33):
and try and spread the energy wherever we go, you know.
I mean it's hard to do unless you live in
the monastery, because you know, strength is just as important
as that. We all know what happens to weak people
this culture. Who knows what wonders have been, loss of
the world for the lack of it, But what was?
You know? We're here to love each other.

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
You know, I need to get you over on Texas
show because his show goes on quite a quite a while,
like Monday. Is it Monday Nights or Tuesday?

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Second, I apologize, I'm an old hippie, so yeah, you
know about love and you know I'm going to get you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
I'm gonna get you hooked up with texts and I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Would be a pleasure. You know. I'm really grateful to
you guys, have you on. Thank you for let me
share some of my story. I've caught your Guys show
a couple of times. I'm very grateful that there is
something like this. So many of the other shows I've
seen are more CRYPTI oriented. Should I mention other people?

(01:06:34):
I don't know what's etiquette is of this, but we
had someone in the chat last week who has his
own show. Yeah, invited beyond it, but you too, the
only ones I know that I probably just't not get
down enough to know that. But most of the shows
I've seen are crypted oriented as opposed to more specifically
existentially paranormally you're talking about, Yeah, a jacent planned. Yeah,

(01:07:00):
I think he's a good dude.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
I was on his show too. In fact, he's coming.
He's coming on my show Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Oh cool.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
So yeah, A be a good one. But yeah, Miki
had a good point. Man, I don't have him on
a night out. I have you on a night own.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yeah, because he's coach time, so it wouldn't be too
late for him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
I'm kind of a night though, But yeah, I'm free.
I'm out here in the West, you know, I keep
back out here. Kevin from Underworld, he said, you got
to come out and get one of your stories adapted.
He felt like the style that I writed would let
itself the screenplay adaption more readily than than other styles.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
That, so you need to get published so we can
push your books.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Well, yeah, I've just got articles published right now. But yeah,
I couldn't agree more heartily that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
So, like all the shows, why don't you let everybody
know how they can get in touch with you if
they have any questions or they want to tell you
more about any particular subject.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Also, before I forget if I could get contacts for
you guys, if you're free to give them, so I
could contact directly with both of you, Yep and Monica.
I know I already have yours. But YouTube guys, you
know I meant to get your contact before, but I
hadn't met you yet. So yeah, and my own Uh,
you can reach me on Facebook, Casey Murphy. You'll see

(01:08:26):
a picture of a guy looks a lot like me
holding guitar. I'm pretty easy to find and my email
is Ali cat Blues at hotmail. I have a website.
You know. It's funny. I've been playing music professionally for
so many years and I have nothing on YouTube. My
friend with Kevin it's the twenty first century. You want

(01:08:46):
to see it on you man, And I've got a
good website. I could drop names of the best of them.
I haven't had the career a lot of guys, but
you know, I've been blissed and uh, but I have
no presence on YouTube and of my ages. I worked
with this and I'm going to devote my entire life
of getting you someone in the tech World and get
you up the park because you're in a napraism burpy anyway.

(01:09:09):
So there you have it. I'm an actress, so that's
the only way I know you get hold of me.
And I played guilty with an explanation, should be in
my t shirt. Well, I will share with you. Well,
Joe's on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
He's easy to find.

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Easy, I'll get you. I'll shoot you an email.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Kevin, Okay, cool. Yeah, I felt it was great, you know.
I mean, I've been for a thousands of people, but
I was kind of nervous, but you guys made it
been easy for me. You know, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Nobody should ever be nervous coming on my show.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
That's just a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Yeah. Well, I'm reminded of a friend of my mother.
It's an old Irish racket. Tour stepped up to the
podium before he said it, he said, you know, public
speaking is not before two and a half hours later
and then O Maddie's cook, Colnd Murphy went down to
that that's not me. I'm not that guy. But I
hope that that's that that people were able to get

(01:10:11):
something from positive from it. Nothing else that that the
creators out there, you know. And uh, if I could
venture to say anything, if I could presume this anything,
I would say that our mistakes aren't what's important. It's
sorr indifference. I think that. So find something that works

(01:10:32):
for you and stay loyal to it, because the way
the world is right now and we should all be
on the same page in this crypto community, especially the
powers that be. You know, it's it's Michael. I hope
that's not that you're going to far face. No, no,
I'm reading the right. Yeah, okay, I'm done.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
No, I mean to face.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
But I think you know, her brother Opie thinks he's
a cowboy.

Speaker 5 (01:11:06):
I think that the you know, the message of the
of the you know, togetherness and bringing the community together
and the positive energy and everything being on the same page.
I can think of a better way to I think
I can't think of a better way to sign off
to honestly, Yeah, because I mean that's a good thought
to leave everybody with.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
I agree. Yeah, tonight, I have no book recommendation because
I haven't had time to put that together in my head.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
I've got one, well, text is going to do a
book recommendation, Daisy Darker.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
I bought that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
I bought it, and I thought, of you get popped
up in my recommended list, and my phone is listening
to you gripe at me up at my recommended list,
and I went ahead and downloaded it. So it's going
to be the next book in my line up. Yeah,
and Kevin, you a book recommendation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Yeah, actually many, But on this topic, I would say,
if you haven't read Autobiography with Yogi, you should get it.
I mean, it's hard say it, autobiography of a Yogi.
He was one of the guys that taught Gandhi meditation techniques.
But when I read it, as Vader Karma would have it,

(01:12:27):
as I like to say, when when Meredith gave it
to the medium, gave me the book with the advice
that I shared earlier, I was really upset with the
Ouster projection, and I think I shared last week the
experiences I had with that. But I was really I mean,
I just to me that was and I just opened
it up. I happened to open it up. And I
don't believe in coincident any more than you do. To

(01:12:50):
the page that the beginning of the chapter where Yoga
Nada's guru appears to him in this hotel room after
passing over. And these guys, you know, when they pass over,
they're not rudely instructed by mortality. They do what they
call the moss and body. They said, they stopped their
breath and heart and bam they're gone. Right. So the

(01:13:13):
explanation of the astra, the details with it, was just
a low worth the price of the book. You know,
it would be the worth the price of book for
anyone that's interested in the subject matter. I would think
it's hard to keep in mind when you're reading it
that it's a it's a it's a man's journey. It's
not a book of fiction. I mean it really, But
people who have gone in and you say, well, it's

(01:13:34):
like nothing else. You know, there's just landed fable and
myth and monsters and saints and and I cannot speak
from the authory. I've never been there, but I could
recommend that book.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
I would apologize for the audience, so I didn't answer
if they reached out on No.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
There wasn't any tonight, okay, It's everybody just chit chatting
among themselves. One person said, I love.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
That old hat already, you know, Okay, well that will
do it for this week.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
So Kevin, thank you for coming on. I appreciate you
being on again and sharing your story. Like I said,
you've had an amazing life and you've you've got a
lot of stories that are interesting for everybody to hear,
and they're they're profound, they're they're great and uh breezy.
I hope you feel better.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
The worst.

Speaker 9 (01:14:27):
I'm on the downhill text.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
I'll see you in the hostage situation like we did
last time off camera.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Yeah, yeah, we'll do that all right, So for all
of us, y'all, we will check out next time. Thanks
for tuning in and U