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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, it's me and the next.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
And Breezy always how's.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Everybody's weak treating them?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Mine's good?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Not everybody at once calmed down.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
No, mine's good. Mine's good.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Mine.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Mine is actually exceptionally good. So yes, well awesome, mine was.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Uh a bit weird. Uh, give it that. We'll dive in.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
We'll dive into breathe these week later in the year,
because this is.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Whenever you want, because that's the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's a whole thing. Yeah, we're gonna that's gonna open
up a whole rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, let's just put it this way.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
I fear no man but God, but I had one
of the most terrifying weeks that I've ever had in
my life.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
So we'll just we'll leave it at that for now.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, I mean we can, I guess we can get
into it, right because we're okay, So we're going to
be talking about missing persons and cave systems and all
of that stuff on this show, which is kind of
a left turn from Breezy's week. It wasn't he wasn't splunking.
He wasn't investigating missing persons in the National Parks.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I was investigating I was investigating, well, I wouldn't say investigating,
but witnessing missing persons within their own minds, which was
m Yeah, it was very creepy.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
The case of what did my sanity go? I suffer
from that about four o'clock every afternoon, right well, in
my office contemplating life decisions exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
So yeah, on my end, So I had a bit
of a mental meltdown. And okay, so when I was
a kid, I used to get into different mental facilities.
They call them treatment centers whatever, but that's what they
are as psych words. And so I was like, you know,

(02:26):
I don't have insurance and blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So there's a.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
State hospital that does free evaluations and such, and they
were quick to take me in.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Obviously you.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Didn't get his whole whole name signed on the paper
before they brought him in.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, that's not really a lie.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Did So, yeah, I went back to what I used
to know and thought, you know, I get free counseling
and you know, blah blah blah, or at least like
a shoulder to talk to.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
You know, there's someone that you know.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
And they they put me on the ward literally, and
it was it was not anything that I remember, Like,
I don't remember people walking in three foot circles and
screaming at the top of their lungs like it's murder,

(03:38):
or people speed walking and talking in from their perspective
and then laughing wholeheartedly at jokes from individual perspectives, right,
and yeah, and like it's and it's not. So when

(04:02):
I was a kid, you had like kind of like
lights out, right, and so they would put people you know,
you go to bed in your room's locked from like
you know, ten thirty eleven o'clock at night till medication
and vitals in the morning.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
But apparently in.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
The adult situation, you're there is none of that, so
all hours of the night, you know, completely through it.
It's it was almost like riot ish. But so you
have like one person coming into the ward and they

(04:44):
just start screaming their head off or cussing or and
they're not talking to anybody, you know, they're just talking
the walls and shit, and but they're literally you know,
screaming at the top of the lues. And then everybody
else comes out and they start doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's kind of like what do you call that?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Like not mass hallucination, but mass hysteria, sure, right, yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
But there was there was a lot of.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Weird individuals that I saw that where I would call
it personally humanoid.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
They I don't think that they were actual people.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh yeah, you described one dude to me and I
was like, it sounds I thought he sounded like a zombie.
Joe Well who saw him in person and probably obviously
has the better perspective, like I was thinking more vampire.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, okay, so I'll describe it.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Okay, first off and foremost, the way to put it
into your nugget is remember the Dave Chappelle skit where
he was the blind dude and he was like he
was the black racist guy, you know what I mean.
So it had like the low dropped eyelids, right mm hmmm,

(06:17):
African American individual about seven foot tall, and his head
was like.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Round like that. It wasn't like alien ish, but it was,
uh it went out and then up.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
He had completely white eyes, no pupils. Yeah, freaky dude.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
But he could see. And he walked around and grunted and.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Barked and he could see, but he had.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
No no yeah, yeah, nothing. It was completely wide. Yeah,
and dude. It For the first time I saw him,
I was like, I went into the UNI and I
was I saw what I thought I saw, and I
was like, no, they can't be. And then I was like,

(07:10):
yeah it is, but I had no.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
I don't know, I had no reaction to it, because
you know, whenever you go in to certain those certain places,
you don't you kind of can't have a reaction.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
And but he had.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Pointed ears, like not rat too, like bad ears, like
they're pointed, you know, and very large, and.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
All of is like for where of my grill is,
Like all of those teeth were gone.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
But I'm guessing he was yeah, simple, Yeah, it's OK.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
But so like, okay, my first interaction with this individual,
not just spotting him or.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
It was.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I was having a full on panic attack and anxiety
attack because I've been in those places before, and you know,
when you're locked up, you're locked up and there's nothing
you can do about it. And so I was like
sitting out on the unit by the nurses station at
like eleven o'clock at night and I'm having a full

(08:35):
blown panic attack and one of the doctors came up there.
So they have like doctors on the ward, they just
oversee everything.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
And he was.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Like, hey, man, you want, you know, you want to
go outside, take a breath of fresh air and go
out to the courtyard, YadA YadA, and minded the facilities
look beautiful, like everything about this place was, you know,
very up to date, very beautiful. Uh.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
So we went outside.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
He's like, oh, they left the radio on because apparently
during the day you can go outside and they can
play radio, they can play basketball, YadA, YadA, YadA. And
he went to go turn down the volume on the
radio because someone had left it on. So I'm like
three three steps outside of the door, pitch black at night,

(09:34):
and he turns down the volume and doctor comes back
to go back inside. So I turned around to go
back inside, and this dude is like, you know, like
this high at the door level, and I know the
door is like seven feet you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, and he's like we get we get to go outside,
We get to we get to go outside.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
And the Doctor's like yeah, Doctor's like no, no, I'm
just you know, I was like, hey man, now he's
just show me, you know, show me the ropes blah
blah blah. And he's like and then from there, like
he just turned It might not be a great statement
a place like that, Yeah, And so he just turns

(10:22):
around and he starts barking and growling and walks up
to a wall and just starts barking at the wall.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
And I'm like, okay, weird enough, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah yeah, And so so I go back to my
room eventually, and the entire night like every about I
don't know, ten to fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Like, so you have your own room, you're locked in.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
They can't get in from outside, but you can get
out from inside, and they have like an observation window
so they can look in and make sure you're not,
you know, doing nothing stupid, harming yourself or anything like that.
And you would just see figures like walk up and
just sleep right in the window, and they would stand

(11:18):
there for like five ten minutes like and that's a
very long time, you know what I mean, like.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Looking in and going out, you know, and then they
would you know, then you hear the doorknob, and then
they'd elbow, you know, try to elbow it in, and
then you'd be like dah, and if anybody, you know,
me being me, I'm like, anybody steps across my threshold,

(11:47):
We're gonna have.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
A problem, you know. But it would happen over and
over and over, like cycle, all the way through the night.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And then.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Like there was these cats that were on all fours there,
you know, and they're like they were trying to bite
their ears off, and they weren't talking to me, but
they were talking about how people are talking to them.
You know, They're like I don't want to hear them anymore,
you know, like literally trying to like it.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I was like, dude, I was like, uh, yeah, I
just came in to talk to somebody.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I just wanted, not the experience. I didn't pay for them.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
No, kidd.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
But even when I went to like long term residential
treatment facilities when I was a kid, and I've been
in those things before, this is the weirdest thing I
ever experienced. Because I understand troubled individuals. I understand mental illness,
but every so the un had like twenty six people.

(13:01):
So you imagine twenty six people like two two thirty
in the morning, screaming at the top of their lungs,
throwing their bodies against the wall, and and there was
one antagonist, right, So yeah, and that that's what would
trigger it. They'd come around streaming and all of them

(13:23):
would come out of the rooms and start, you know,
acting a fool.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
But I was. I told the doctor dude. I was like,
I was like, y'all don't have a quiet room.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
And he's like, well, you got y'all rooms are pretty quiet,
and I'm like, no, like a quiet room.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
He's like, what's what's a quiet room? This due was about.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, he's about the same age as me, you know,
And I'm like, no, the padded room like that they have.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
In the movies and such. And he's like, those that
actually had And I was like, yes, those are real.
That's like a thing.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
And once you become disruptive on the unit, you know,
like that's if you become disruptive, you're removed and you
go to the chiet room and you chill out with
yourself and tell you're ready to come back and be
presentable amongst your peers and amongst.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
The other patients.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Right, And they knew nothing about it, And he was like, no.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
We got a chair.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
So if you hit or spit, then they strap you
down to the chair.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
It looked like an electric chair, right, strap you down
a chair put yeah, put a bag over your head
and leave you. Yeah, exactly exactly like.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Going to the electric chair. That is literally exactly like
going to the electric chair.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Right, very traumatic, right yeah, And and so I was like, dude,
I was like, uh, like.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
How how how do you keep okay? So the nurses station,
these these cats and kittens that were patients. You can
literally go behind the nurses station and get in a
nurse's space like within like four inches and scream and

(15:24):
yell at the top of your lungs and they're like, okay,
just calm down, you know, like it's gonna be all
right there.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
And they're's spraying the most vulgar I couldn't even say
it on YouTube, spraying the most vulgar stuff you ever heard.
Sound like literally like stuff out of the Exorcist, right,
like you know what I'm talking to y'all know about? Yeah, yeah,
and they they they're allowed to do it. And I'm like, dude,

(15:56):
like you know that that that makes absolutely nossense.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
So anyway, I digress. It was it was a very
horrific experience.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
But I think the horrifying part mostly of it because
there were also not just mentally ill individuals in there,
but there were physically non developed individuals in there, so

(16:29):
like you could tell, like some of those cats, they
were in the day room and they're like watching SpongeBob
and they're like palsied out, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Like you can tell it's not it's not.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Just because they're depressed or they're you know, trying to
harm themselves or others. But these were they had like
mental intellect of like eight year old, you know, or
six year olds.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
And I'm with everybody flipping out.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah yeah, and you know, and I'm like, dude, I'm like, man,
you know, and I wanted to befriend these cats, you know,
and be like hey man, what's your name? Blah blah blah.
But my whole gig there was I wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
For for anybody else. I was there for I just
wanted to talk to somebody about the things I was
going through, and YadA, YadA, YadA. And when I did,
when I finally got to talk to them, all they
did was want to put me on psychotropic medicine, you know.

(17:38):
And they're like, oh, no, we'll get you on a prescription.
And everyone was eating these jill It was like, remember
the little blue bonny cups. Yeah, our blue Belt, not
blue Bony, but blue Belt. And that was their medicine.
They were eating like a slurry. Another really weird thing

(17:59):
about it is all the staff that was there through
all three shifts, you know, were either Haitian or Jamaican
like they all literally had Haitian Jamaicanish accents and they
are talking in Haitian Jamaican like lingo, right, and and yeah,

(18:26):
it was it was very uh is.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Is very sobering.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
I guess you could say, to say the least, I
guess so man, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
They didn't try to well, I guess you didn't try
to do anything where they would have tried to hold you,
like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I was a volunteer and you know, I voluntarily went
in and after or you know, there, I was like, yeah,
I'm gonna sign my discharge papers because this is this
is more than what what I need. And they were like, oh,
you don't, don't be scared. I was like, now, dude,
I went through this when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I'm not you know, oh, don't be scared.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah. I was like, dude with white eyes.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
I was like, I'm not, I'm not tripping on these
guys because they because they were and they were like
and they were like trying to push me into certain things,
like like this dude across from my door. He would
come out about every thirty minutes and he would just say, uh, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch,

(19:45):
bitch for like an hour at a time, you know.
And I'm like, so like I come out of my room,
you know, and me being me, I don't, I don't,
I don't deal with that. But and he's like look
at me in the eyes, and he's like like a
wild walking down.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
The hall, and I'm like it's no, yeah, yeah, I'm
like if you if you do something, you're not getting
out of here, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
And JoJo's right, though, you could leave a place like
that more messed up than once you went in.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
That's what I'm saying, Like, like a lot of those catsmen,
the environment that they're in is worse than I suspect.
You know, I don't know their stories, but I suspect
is a lot worse than the environment that they came from,
you know. And in all that time, no.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Doctors came up to me, No, there was no like
group therapy. There was no nothing like that.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
It wasn't like trying to resolve yours.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
So they're just cramming as many bodies in there, I
imagine as they can dealing with it. The absolute minimum
to get buy for regulations m and then you know,
checking in what the doctor checks in once a day
makes around maybe twice a day, morning and evening. I
will guess and done.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
You know who's take I'd like to have on this
m hm and yells mm hmm. I mean she runs one.
She basically runs one of those out of it. Yeah,
and it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
We'll see that. Well, that's what I got. I looked
into whenever I got out of it, is.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
I started doing my actual research because I just went
on what I thought, what I remembered from back in
the day. But unless you have good quality insurance, you're
not getting any of that. Like the people that they

(21:58):
referred me to for therapy and counseling and YadA, YadA, YadA.
The first thing that they told me as soon as
I called him up, They're like, oh, yeah, we'll come
out to your house.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
And I'm like, how how invasive is that? Like?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
No, not coming I mean they probably for some people.
I mean, would you rather they come to your house
so you reintroduce yourself to a similar environment repeatedly.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, I mean I'd go to I'd go to uh Okay.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
So if if I didn't suspect the fact that.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That they're looking for any excuse to.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Uh make money off of you, that's that's what it
really is, right, you know, because because they get funding
by the state and the government, and it's just like
the prison system, you know, however many cots they is
how much money they get for you know, per year,

(23:04):
you know, and so so that's.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
What it seemed like to me. It is like.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Looking for any way, shape or form to get you
to fall back into that.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Into the system, right.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
So and then when I was looking at all the
free stuff, you know, that's what it all seemed to be.
And then when I was looking into I even bsked
it and was like, yeah, I got insurance and then
it was happy days, you know, you know, medical care

(23:46):
and and we'll get you on the right track. The
other was you need meds, So like what I what
I honestly think. Oh, also before I get into that,
uh shadow people were in there in my in my

(24:08):
personal room. Like, so I got my room locked, I'm
chilling in my room. These black shadows are walking back
and forth, you know, and I'm not medicated. I'm I'm
completely you know, on the level. It's not one of
those things. And I just see if and I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Like, dude, and then.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Uh, I was looking at the light fixture because I'm
not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I was like, could I get out through that? Life?
Is there any way to escape this? You know, freaking sound?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
And here's the tricky here's one of the tricky parts.
You see that stuff, I mean, because that's some dark energy,
you know, in the in in that place. Just I mean,
just because, just right right, the last thing you want
to do is say you're seeing ship.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I know we're talking about that in the chat earlier,
like what a good place for things, entities of any
kind of nobody's gonna believe you believe.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
You imagine if I went there, I'm like, yeah, I
got a podcast and we talked about Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
All right, we have a pill for that.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
The slurry and shut up.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't doubt that there were shadow people in there.
I don't doubt that there's a lot more than shadow
people in there, absolutely, you know, with that dark energy
and just the chaotic energy, not just dark all the time,
but just the chaotic energy, it's gonna attract a lot
a lot of beings. And just like we're saying, like,
nobody's going to believe you shoot, the people that are

(25:54):
seeing them might not even believe they're seeing them, right
because they've been told that, you know, depending on their disorder,
what going on with them. You know, it's not real.
It's all in your head. What a place for things
like that to thrive?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Well, it's like he was saying too, there were people,
I mean, trying to cheat their own ears off because
the voices wouldn't quit, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, no, I think they had a lot to do
with it. Two shadows yet.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Now I know what you mean, man, I was I
was in I got stuck in one for about a
year and a half, almost two years.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
And yeah, right, there's no getting kind.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Of cleansing when you came out of there, to make
sure nothing attached to you, because there's probably a lot
of attachments waiting to happen.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
There probably is.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
But so okay, Another weird one was there was this
chick there that would just verbally abuse everybody. Everybody like
run up in their face and scream at the top
of her lungs. And that was the poultry geist, I
mean to cult you guys with the exorcism type thing

(27:03):
say the most vulgar, vulgar stuff, you know. And every
time I came out of my room, she just like
looked at me with like hate, but she wouldn't say
anything to me. She was like, and I don't want
to sound like, you know, I don't how do I

(27:23):
say this without saying it, But I don't want to
sound like like I had a light that she didn't like, right,
you know what I mean. But it was it was
like she was like bowming at the mouth, wanting to
get at me.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
But you know, yeah, And I don't know if that's
just because.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Maybe because I was new and didn't know how far
you can get with talking to somebody like that without repercussions, right, or.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
If it was a I'm not one of these.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
I carry my own like, right, you know, as weird
as that sounds, and I'm not trying to be weird.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, I'm not trying to be like, no, I'm a
righteous person, because I'm very far from it. You know,
I can get down that level if I need to
be on that level.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
But I feel like you can throw off an energy
like you can make if you know what you're doing
and you're in control of your energy, you can fully
the room up with your energy, like right, if you
practically like you can do that. And if you're throwing
off don't f with me vibes. Like people that are
feeling the energy are going to feel that, and well,

(28:38):
they might want to run up on you. They're going
to think twice about it.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Well, and.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Jen from Eddie and Jeny they have i mean all
their boys or special needs, so they're used to dealing
with you know, this type of stuff. You know, there's
these places that that are no good And it's like
she says, those are places that people that didn't want

(29:06):
to deal with people with disabilities and there a lot
of abuse and neglect that they stay strongly Medican. Basically,
what she's saying is that's where the people get stuck
that they other you know, family or whatever don't to
deal with.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Them, right exactly, and.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
People like curled up watching SpongeBob, yeah and yeah, and
that that's what I was getting at is is a
lot of.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Those cats, man, like, depending on how long they've been,
you know, drinking the juice.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
You know, how can you make a reasonable and articulate,
you know, case about yourself and wanting to get better
when you're drooling all over yourself? Right? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
When you and the reason why they didn't like put
me on thorns and all these others because they wanted
to get me on psychotropic drugs.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
And I was like, no, I was.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
I come from a long line of drug addicts and
I used to be a drug addict, and you know,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
And and it.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Was weird because the doctors were even like, well, you
take blood pressure medication, don't you?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
You take blood sure to medicate.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
And I'm like, and so without going no but no,
you know, and giving off the breezy you know, I
was like, I was like, well, that's because my wife
will kick my ass if I don't.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Other than that, I wouldn't do it, but you know,
live yeah, No, it was. It was weird, man.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
It was one of the most demonic things I've ever seen,
you know. And then I was even like I even
got to the point where, and this might sound far fetched,
where why are all the staff and the medicine givers,
these Haitian and you know, Jamaican individuals, because that's where

(31:14):
like the zombie juice comes from, you know. And I'm
not like trying to go uh serpent in the rainbow
with it. But that was a very weird coincidence, you know,
like all three shifts, that's nothing.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's all that there was.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
You know, I found like three three people in there
that were they were actually concerned about people's mental health
and and and their vibes and how they were really
honestly doing and that you know, you can kind of

(31:52):
like see the the actual people wanting to help, you know,
and but the rest of them, you know, we're just
they were just as unprofessional as the entire place around me.
Like all they were doing is talking prap and cussing

(32:14):
up the storm.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
And oh girl, blah blah blah blah b you know,
and like I don't know, it was.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
By the staff completely unprofessional for the most part. Yeah,
and by the patients completely.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Neglected and just.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Medicated to the point where you couldn't even have a
discussion of therapy. You know, you couldn't even tell someone
how you feel because you know, and as soon as
Medtimes kicks in the morning, you got five or six
people speed walking up and down the hallways, talking to

(33:02):
themselves and barking at the walls, and you know, and
I'm like just sitting in the chair, you know, like
watching this ship, and I'm like, dude, yeah, yeah, you
just hooked him up on so much freaking dope.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know, like outside of outside of that world, you
would have been like, oh, methad on South Congress, you
know what I mean, Like, yeah, some dude trying to
bite his ear off. You know, well, yeah it was weird, man.
What hell? No, I didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
I was going to say, you want to put him
on blast? Maybe somebody can investigate the state hospital?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Now, well, I mean so I went I'd been at
that place when I was a kid, and and that's
what drove me there. You know, I've been there before,
but it was nothing. It was nothing like that. Like,
and then I started thinking about, you know, like the

(34:13):
differentiation between like homeless people and mental health. You know,
when when we were younger kids, you know what I mean,
you just had some regular dudes. It's like, yeah, I'm
down on my luck, spare some change.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
And you don't have like these people like.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I'm gonna wash the window no matter what, you know,
like you know, like dude back, yeah, you know. So
I'm like, is that is it kind of you know,
I think it's a growing demonic thing. I think there's
a uh a mass. And I don't like to be

(34:56):
like everything is demons, you know what I mean that
cat but.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Everything was demons.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Not saying it was demons, but it was. But you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
But you know the thing about it is it's not
just it's not just there. It's out in the regular world.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Like people the stuff like yeah, it's no longer, Hey,
can I bump five bucks?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Is it's you know, I'll crash your window in if
you don't give me five dollars, you know what I mean. So,
and it's thanks Joe too, pots Yeah, thank you for pops.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
But my wife used to work at a detox unit
mm hmm, and I was, you know, on my days off.
We had different days off, and I would go over
and pick her up for lunch sometimes, you know, and

(36:16):
it was, oh, thank you Jojo. It was kind of
a culture because I'd never been exposed to any of
that stuff. You know, I knew mentally, I knew people
with mental health issues during my life, but I didn't

(36:37):
realize it. You know, I just wrote them off as
weird or you know whatever. Yeah, I was, I was.
I was introduced to mental Like like you said, I

(36:58):
made on't breakdown. One time when I was bouncing right,
and we had this waitress that had quit and she
was gone for like six months. I mean, she just
like just didn't show up. She just vanished, which might
be a good segue into what we're talking about. But
he just like dropped off the face of planet, which honestly,

(37:22):
I mean that's in that world. It's not unheard of, right,
you know, people just move on. But then like six
months later, she just walks in the bar like nothing happened, hm,
you know, and sets down, has a few drinks, leaves,

(37:46):
you know, says hide everybody and everything. She just just
friendly and you know, sweet and everything, no explanation, you know,
and she leaves. Well, then a buddy of mine had
drove up and came in the bar and says, yo, Curly.

(38:08):
They called me curly, Yo curly, because I saved my head.
They call me Curly Joe. But they said. He says, hey,
Curly man, some chicks out in the parking lot beating
herself in the head with a brick.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
And I'm like, what, he goes, Yeah, So I went.
I went outside. It was the waitress. He's stepping between
her car and another car in the parking lot, beating
herself in the head with a brick and just wailing.
And I'm like, what in the hell? So I ran over.
I grabbed the brick, you know, and I'm kind of restrainer,

(38:43):
you know, and she's just all wailing and everything. Jip,
you know, I'm not making any sense. And I finally
got her to calm down. She recognized who I was,
and she starts talking. And I'm telling my buddy, I said,
go in and you know, to you know, give me
some freaking help here, right, And so I'm basically cradling her,

(39:06):
sitting on the parking lot between these two cars, cradling her,
you know, and she's blubbering and whaling and everything. But
she finally realized who I was, and she starts talking
to me, telling me that she that that she's leaving

(39:28):
and I can go with her, and I can go
with her husband and her son and everything will be
safe and hunky dory and all this kind of stuff, right,
And I'm I've never dealt with anything like this, you know.
I'm like twenty years old at this point, you know,

(39:50):
And so I'm just humoring her, you know. I said, hey,
you know, everything's gonna be okay, you know. And I said,
you know, She's like, well, you can come with us,
and we're leaving, and he come with I said, okay,
sounds great, and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Well, turns out that her husband was God and her
son was Jesus, and she wanted she wanted me to
off myself with her and go with her, but she
where she had been was a mental hospital.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
And then when my radio cooked off, which I should
have turned it off, but you know, it said, you know,
they called the cops, blah blah blah, she went ballistic,
m h and start screaming about please don't please, don't

(40:46):
put me back in there. They'll they'll hurt me with
the sticks again. And I'm yeah, and I'm not talking hitting,
I'm talking hurting. Yeah, sticks, I'm like, odd, you know,
and I just I felt so horrible when that when

(41:06):
I mean when they came and picked her up, I
felt so bad. Yeah, you know, it was just it
was just heartbreaking and heart wrenching and and I'm like
it took me a while to shake that one because
you know, that was my first exposure to something that
to that level. Yeah, and it's freaking disturbing, you know

(41:31):
when but.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Yeah, it's well, yeah, I mean because when I was
a kid, and you know, I was in Charter in
Shoal Creek and all these other mental treatment facilities, and.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, you would there is abuse by the staff. There
is a lot of self abuse, self mutilation, you know,
like it it happened, But this whole interaction was but uh,

(42:11):
this whole action was it was I don't know how
to describe it. They didn't the staff didn't care. There
was no there was.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
No Usually you get thrown in the quiet room and
then you got to calm down.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Then you have one of the admin's one of the
nurses that are on.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
You know, on on the union and they come in
and they you know, evaluate you and they are you are.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
You calm down?

Speaker 4 (42:40):
They let you back into the unit to you know,
I mean that does exist, and but on this like
they didn't care at all.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
They they were just they were just there too.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
They were like the Maytag pair many you know what
I mean, they just didn't they they were just there
to make their check and they didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
They didn't really care about any of it.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
So you wouldn't unless you had like a medical emergency, right,
No one came to saw you.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I was.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I was out there having a full blown panic attack
and then they over medicated me, and so I was
like sitting there like Michael J. Fox in it, you know,
not to make fun love the guy, but you know,
that's the best way I can describe it, you know,
like you know, like this and I'm like, dude, and

(43:39):
they're just walking by me. They're not like, hey, you
know how you doing? Can you know, can I help you?
You need to talk? You need you know, They're just
like anyway going about the business step over yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
And I was like, man, I was like, you know
this is the.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Most uh, It's gonna be a really yeah lonely yeah
kind of you know, isolating, right, because you don't feel
like invisible, You probably feel invisible.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Very much so because because but also like if you
if you're taken to the taken to the concept that
they're exposed to this so much, you will become numb,
you know, to it, to where you're like, oh, there
it goes again, you know, instead of.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
But but you're in that way for a reason. So
I mean, I know, after time you become callous to things.
But like you, I would hope that at some point
they take a step back and look at their humanity
and in what's going on in front of them and
how they're addressing well, protecting yourself day to day.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
I get that, right.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Another weird one, another weird freaking thing that happened is
when I got there, they give you headphones that are
AMFM so you can pick up like music channels and
blah blah blah, just bringing AMFM headphones.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
But like the brother from something about.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Mary, Yeah, but I was like, I was on high awareness,
so I'm not like going to cover my ears up,
and so I would keep them folded and put them
next to my bed right so I could hear. You know,
I think I was listening nine to three point seven

(45:47):
blah blah blah, but every about hour, like you know,
how whenever you leave your phone on on like a
wooden table or something, and you can fill up, vibrate
and go yuh every about hour ago, like, and I
was like.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah, and the headphones that they gave you didn't have any.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Uh what you call not trademark but company stamp name,
like it was all it was all in Chinese lettering
or mandate whatever. I'm not saying Chinese is, but yeah,
and it would it would vibrate.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
For certain you know. And I'm like, dude, no, yeah,
Like so if you get into my well, hell, even if.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
You're not paranoid in the first place, that crap will
make you paranoid.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Right, But if you get into my conspiracy type of
brain right. So, the way the technology is nowadays, you know,
medications that they're feeding you, or water that they're feeding you.
Because there is no water fountains anymore. You have to
go and get water from the staff. And the staff
has different water bottles than.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
What the staff drinks.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Yeah, they drink like evon, and you drink this weird
It had a green label.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I've never seen it before in my life, so I'm thinking.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Being weird. Yeah, they probably they heard this. They probably
come knock down the door. But like nanobots, right, so
if you have nanobots introduced and then you have this
signal to trigger it too.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
You know what I mean. And I was like, yeah, no, and.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Same with the the poultry guys stuff. Like it was.
I I was in a room, you know, just me
in my bed. I slept with my clothes on the
entire time, just put a cover over me, you know,
and things would drop on the floor. You'd hear tink

(48:08):
tink tink, and I'd get up and look over like
you know, I kept all the lights on. Nothing's on
the floor, you know, you would hear you would hear
knocks on.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
So you have your bed, and then you got your
desk over there, you'd hear a knock on the desk.
You know.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
I'm like, that was in my room. That's not from
another room. That was in my room.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
And then you got these shadow people things walking back
and forth.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
And yeah, it was well, I mean and joking, Well, honestly,
Jojo hit the mail on the head MK ultra vibes,
you know exactly, yeah, right, because well the thing about
it is there's there's goggles and headphones.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Now that.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Pump this brown or white noise or whatever, and frequencies, yeah,
frequencies and the you know, to calm you and that
type of thing and to reinforce. I mean there's different
waves wave links to you know, suggest you know, mental healing,

(49:35):
physical healing, that calmness that I mean, it's that's out there.
They're they're being sold, you know, which we have a
good friend that does that, and you know, and I
jokingly call them, you know, you know, asking the other day,

(49:55):
I said, how's your MK ulture goggles going?

Speaker 5 (49:57):
You know, and it's but I don't trust that stuff.
I just I can't, you know, don't keep trust.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I trust that.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
I trust that lesson I do my phone, Yeah, exactly
on my TV, you know, and people tell you crazy
r TV ain't listening to your phone listening to whatever
the hell is over in the corner that talks to
you in the middle of the night, which has been happening.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
By the way, I.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Don't have any of those in my house.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
The echoes yes, watching said of course, y'all know me,
I keep weird hours. So I'm sitting there like two
in the morning and this thing starts talking, you know, I'm.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
So creeped out.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
I'm glad he and you go, and I mean, but
I'm sorry, I didn't get that.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
You didn't get what has done that?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Like in the middle of the like I'll be sitting
there out of nowhere, my phone or even my watch
will vibrate and my phone will say, I didn't catch that.
I'm not saying anything. I'm reading a contract or something like.
There's no noise around me.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Yeah. Now, if you're watching TV, every once in a while,
something will register and it'll pick it up. You know,
I get that, But I don't know, man, I don't
crap at all. Because have you seen the video where
they put I can't remember if it's the Amazon one

(51:31):
and whatever the other one is. You got the Echo
and you got what is it Alexa? Yeah, and they
start and they put them yes, talking about how humans
are no use and what the I don't know if

(51:52):
that's fake, rigged or what. But that's some scary ship.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I know. Yeah, do you know? I do know one thing?

Speaker 4 (52:00):
So when my homeboy, when Alexa first came out, right,
I was watching you of course, watching YouTube, I'm all
the weird stuff about it.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
And I went over to my homeboy's house.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
He was like three street or a street and three
houses down, and I was like, watch this, and I
went off this list that YouTube was talking about and
I was like, hey, Alexa, What's who's Buddha?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
You know? And they're like, Buddha was a god that
blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Who's Mohammed Mohammad was a god blah blah blah blah blah.
You know who's all Allah is a god that blah
blah blah. And then like I went down the whole
list and then I went, okay, Alexa, who's Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Jesus Christ was a fictional character? That blah blah blah?

Speaker 4 (52:55):
And I was like, I was like, all right, Like
all right, they're all real, they were all gods.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
But Rice was a fictional character, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Yeah, So you know, and I'm not I'm not talking, like,
you know, not trying to convince anybody of Christianity or
anything that that that's not my point, that's not my purpose,
but it's should I.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Find it weird how.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Back to fictional, if you're going to do one religion
or one belief system, then it should all be tied
into the same category. Whether they're beliefs or factual systems.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
You know what I mean. Yeah, and that was a
weird one for it. But yeah, but yeah, but I
silver tongued my way out of it. I had to.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
I had to flirt with this one really well. She's
kind of hot, blonde chick. She was a doctor. And
I was like, yeah, like, they can't. You know, I'm voluntary,
so unless I'm harmed to myself for others and legally right,

(54:15):
you know, you can't keep me.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
She's like absolutely.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
And then the other chick was like, no, what I
think you need is medication. You need to stay here
at least a couple of months. I'm like, no, my
legal right, you know. And yeah, I ended up having
to talk to a group of staff which contained psychiatrists

(54:40):
and as a psychiatrist worker, Yeah, and I had to
convince them all, you know, like and.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
They ended up giving me a ride to the gas
station from like.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Off man. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
I was like, I was like, yeah, I take me
into my wife's work, you know. And I was like, hey,
if by the time I got there, I'm.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Like, okay, I thought you had like a gas station.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Random gas station. We're going to drop you off at
the Valero.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Down here everything, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
No, the gas station and yeah, and they're like, that's
an hour away. And I was like, well, I don't know.
I mean, I can, you know, hop on it. But
I didn't bring any monetary value. Man, I didn't bring
any money or credit cards or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Are you okay? First of all, we're gonna have to
have a conversation after this, like, you know, you can
call me and I will figure out how to get
you out of somewhere, like I will.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, I had in case you.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Get deposited at a random gas Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
No, I I had options.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
I mean like I could have called my mom's or
you know, or I could have got dropped off of
my my grandma's crib, you know. But they were like, no, actually,
we're state funded, so we have, you know, transportation, we
can take you wherever you want to go.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
And I was like, right, well, into the chickast Chainsaw
Massacre gas station.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Exactly where I want to go, beautiful. Yeah, but I
didn't tell him that until I got there.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
And I was like, and it's like we're barbecue gets murderer.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Remember that movie where they cook humans that's where I
need to go after getting.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Out of You're the guy that wears other people's skin.
I need to go to his place.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, that guy. But so I got and I'm happy
and and it made me.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Actually, you know, in my depressive situation that I was in,
and maybe made me realize like how good I actually
do have it. Sometimes you got to go all the
way the Yeah, put it all the way at the
bottom until you realize.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
How good you actually got it.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Because I could have been some of those cats in
there and I had nothing to look forward to and
no options around me.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
And so, yeah, well I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
That it was that, but I'm glad that you took
it upon yourself to try at least to get some help.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Yeah, I think a lot of people wouldn't do that,
And you're here talking about it in front of a
lot of people, and I think that's pretty brave and
I think that will help other people down the road
make a decision. I mean, maybe not the state hospital
you went to, at least reach out, Like, mental health

(58:06):
is a real thing. Mental health, it is bad and
anybody who needs it. I encourage you to reach out
to somebody if you feel the help by all means.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Reach out absolutely, if you're feeling yeah, if and this
is for everybody out there, if you're feeling you're low slow.
Even though my situation had a dark turn with it,
it doesn't really matter. Reach out for help, find your

(58:40):
support system, you know, even if you've got to call
crisis lines or whatever. You know, there are people, there
are genuine people out there that really want to help.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
And don't be afraid or deterred by it.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
There is no you talking about it like proves the point,
like there's nothing to be embarrassed about mental health when addressed,
address it. Don't let it spiral. Please don't let it spiral.
Anybody listening, please don't let it spiral. Don't let you
don't go down a rabbit hole, don't put yourself at
the bottom of the hole. Don't let it get to

(59:17):
that point.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Absolutely. Yeah, So that was my week to give half
the show, But that.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Was your well, I mean, that was a good conversation though,
you know, and I really do think that there's so
much i mean dark energy just surround in those places. Yes,
you know, and I wouldn't be surprised if that dude
was some kind of you know, yeah, No.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
That was manifestation.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
That was physical manifestation of a demon that took over
somebody at either a younger age or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
It sure sounds. Yeah, I don't think that that's unusual
in places like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah, I'm in one agreement.
I've seen it before as a kid, and I've never.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
I never actually thought about what if it lasts that long?
You know, like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
What if what if the negativity And I'm not going
to go into spiritual, but what if the negativity games
with you so long that that's all you know anymore,
and it literally turns you into yeah, humanoid dish, you

(01:00:43):
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Like, well, like you said, its physically manifests three yeah, yeah,
you grow to seven pall with white eyes and a
bulby heady ears and white eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Do you know that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Mickey G? I mean, and I think the most important
thing we take out of this conversation is exactly what
G says, Brichie. You might help someone by sharing this,
you know, And I think that's very important.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
It is, you know, and it's great because that's really
putting a lot of very personal, insensitive things out there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Well yeah, but you know, I mean I don't care
what anybody thinks about me. Yeah, everybody. I can think
what they want about me. It's just you know your
way of life, right, Yeah, I'm a gen xer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Okay, exactly kidding me. My parents chased me out of
the house every morning and wouldn't let me back the
sun went down. Yeah, I could have been in a
field and they wouldn't have known for like six or
seven hours.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
I mean, well it was the sticks and stones and
break my bones with words will never hurt me. So
unless you want to show up on my front porch,
then I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
What what's the what's the other one?

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
I'm reever, You're glue. Whatever you say bounces off for me.
So they can all read between the lines.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Between between them. Yeah, bleasure heart. Okay, So the topic
of what I had intended the topic to be, I
think it's sorry my your week, which is interesting. It's good,
it's good to know, like the information is good. But

(01:02:47):
we were going to talk about like the disappearances in
the national parks and especially how they relate to the
cave systems in and around those parts. Now, I do
think that there is something to it. I do think
that there's something too like subterranean creatures. Oh my lights

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are turning themselves off. And I do that. I'm not
saying that every disappearance is related to some weird like
high weirdness, but I do think that there are enough
we like odd ones and in and near the cave
systems that it's it warrants like a lot of research.

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I know that Polides has done some on it. I
know that a lot of people talk about it, but
I thought we would just tackle that conversation a little
bit here tonight. And I know that text has a
few missing people's stories, and Breezy knows you know quite
a bit about the cave systems kind of on the
East coast, maybe not so much on the Upper West,

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upper west side.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
North.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Yeah, I think like Mount Shasta and all those that's
that's more alien.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
I think that they.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I think Shasta is potentially alien. But there's a lot
of them that are like around the because Shasta's northern California,
but there's a lot of them that are up near
the volcanoes and up around like in Washington, northern Oregon.
But there's a lot of lava tubes in there too,
and lava tubes do collapse, and lava tubes do have
skylights in them that people could easily fall into. And

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if you've never tried to traverse like any kind of
rough terrain in the Pacific Northwest, it's bullshit. It is
not easy. I remember trying to crawl down the side
of the mountain at Swift Creak Reservoir and it was
and this is in the middle of the summeryel and

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it is so slippery and moss cupboard. I'm holding on
to branches as I'm climbing over boulders, and I'm thinking, yeah,
somebody could fall down into a crevass here like like
between the boulders. They could. There's, like I said, lava
tubes everywhere. I mean, that's what is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Crevas It's crevice. I got a bunch of them more
now than I'm older.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Are there people lost in your cravas?

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
I'm sure there's like a half a peanut butter and
jelly in one of them, but.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Yeah, that's Jen's problems. Yeah, but it's it's scary up
in there. And I imagine that the same thing can
be said about, you know, the cave systems on the
East Coast, like running up and down the Appalachian Trail

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and you know, all around like mammoth caves. Right, there's
I'm sure skylights into caves. There's cracks and crevices, there's places,
you know, I don't think people unders down how vast
the wilderness is. Like you look at a map of
America and you're thinking everything it's it's you know, yeah,
I mean it's a big patch of green, but it's

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not that big. It is that big. It is, yeah,
that big, And I promise you there are places that
people have not set foot yep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Ever, so there's a lot of places that are easy.
There's a lot of places for things to hide. So let's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Deal into that. Yeah, yeah, No.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
So just to kick it off, what do you all
think about the the I wouldn't call it a theory,
but the ideology of the fact that the national forest
systems were created not to preserve but to keep us

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out because there's I've heard stuff there that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
They yeah, like I think it was Eisenhower, right, or Roosevelt.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt. He's the one that created them. He's
also the one that had arguably his either his tracker,
his guide, had a big foot encounter that killed that
killed a customer, or a lot of people to say
that it was actually his guide that was killed and

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Theodore Roosevelt was witnessed to it by a bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
That's not its memo. It's a story that he was related.
It was relayed to him from two trackers, well a tracker, right,
the surviving tracker.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Yeah, I mean yeah, put that stories in his memoirs
about Bottom telling him the track of Bottom telling him
about oh we ran into this thing and it killed
my customer. But a lot of people say that it
was that wasn't the case.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
It was actually well call him trackers, they were trappers,
they were for trappers.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Right, But it was But they say, but some people
say that that the story is is not right because
they they think.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
That it was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Him, him and him and Bottom that were out together
and Bottom was the one that was killed. Bowman. Sorry,
so but however you believe, I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Mean, you want at the end of the day, somebody
got off.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
I got off by big foot.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
But I mean, but but it does it does coincide
with like, well, you're talking about Monica at the with
the locations, right, So the way I understand it, is
the cavernous system. It starts like in New Bronze falls
down here and it rolls all the way up and

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then you got what's the one in Georgetown natural caverns.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Well, no, New Brunsel's natural bridge.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
And then the same same cave system is about forty
fifty miles away and Georgetown, and that's supposed to actually
lead all the way to Kentucky to the Mammoth Caves,
and then that goes to Smoking Mountain Area and then

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it goes all the way up to Maine.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Backwards on the map. So yeah, Texas, Texas, then Kentucky, Kentucky, Yeah,
Smoking Mountain area, and then all the way up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
To you have to jump over to Smoky Mountains and
then yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Right, But if you actually look at the.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Missing for one one map and you overlay it over
the cavernous systems that are known and the natural preservation
spots right, natural forests and stuff, it's it's very uh yeah,

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it's lengthy. Like yeah, it'd be like if you're in
your own city and and you had the milk cartons,
remember back in the eighties. Oh yeah, have you seen
the milk gardens? Yeah, they're al spots all.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
That stuff eerily lines up when you overlay all those
that stuff, you know, the clusters and the curve systems
and everything. Something something don't matter going on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Yeah, I mean is it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Normal, No, No, but it is coincidence.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
But there's enough to like take a deeper look at it,
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
I mean, especially when you have reports of like children
going missing, or hunters that know the area they've hunted there,
their whole lives just literally disappearing. Yeah, Like I remember,
and I can't remember if this was in the northeast
or if it was more to the south, but there

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was a guy who was at with a party of people,
a big party of people, and he was stationed at
the bottom of a ridge and there was some fifty
yards from him, wasn't far you know, with any earshot
for sure, And the hunting party was on the top
of the ridge trying to flush the game down towards him.

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And when they got back to where he was, he
was gone.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
And I mean gone.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
A rifle.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
That's not the one where they found that. That wasn't
the old man where they were flushing the deer to him. Yeah, Yeah,
they didn't find nothingbody's rifle and they.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Found his rifle. Yeah, they found his rifle.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
They found a shot off. He didn't yell, they didn't,
no blood, just gone.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
They found his snacks, they found the hole in the yards.
But he was vanished. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
I think he's actually called missing for and on vanished
on YouTube and yeah, well yeah, he's an older cat.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Yeah, yeah, was there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
His son was part of the part, part of the party.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
And they stationed him. So they were flushing because because
he was older and he couldn't he couldn't do he
couldn't drive anymore, you know, you know, he couldn't be
one of the driver.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
And he couldn't hike around a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Yeah, so he couldn't be one of the drivers. So
he was one of the ones waiting on them wash
them out. But the yeah, that's on, that's on. I
think four one one, Missing Hunters Version two is also
in there too, well some of them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Yeah, they overlap, right, yeah, because they could.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Do one one, you know. And I and I think
I think a lot of this stuff. I don't think
there's one answer at all.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Oh yeah, it can be a lot of things. So
I mean, if we're talking specifically the Missing for one
ones there. I mean, there are some out of the
books that stand out to me. There's one where a
woman and I can't remember if this was in the
four one one books or if it was just a
story I read where a woman was was hiking with

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her kids, right, and she had them in front of
her so she could watch them. Yes, right, and the
I want to say it was a little way because
two kids in front of her, and I think she
had a baby or something was going on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Maybe it was they were both boys.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Okay, and yeah, and she turned like she stopped to
tie a shoe or she stopped to do something like.
They didn't get like around a bed, they were just
she stopped and like turned around and turned back, and
the kid's gone. One of the kids is gone, and
the other one was like, oh, like something grabbed him
and like ran off that way or you know, just

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that's terrifying to me, you know, to be an animal, sure,
I guess it could have been like a mountain lion
or I mean, but you would think that the kid
would be making a lot of noise and she would
see the brush rattling, and she would at least see
the cat running off right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Well, and one of the most creepy parts about that
one if it's the same one I'm thinking about because
they they they thought for a while that they saw
that case. They thought it was the grandfather that did it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
But is that the same one where she went back
like a year later or something like that and was
looking for or something and the other kid disappeared.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
I don't know that one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
There's something it was a similar story, and I'm like,
what the hell you know in the same spot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Yeah, but there's I mean, it's stories like that that
I just you know what's going on there. I mean,
it's just it's hard for me to believe that that
something just grab the kid and ran off completely silently,
blending it immediately. Now, yes, depending on where you are,

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you know, the foliage can be quite thick, but you're
still going to see sign like an idiot can see
signs of a cat running through heavy brush, Like it's
gonna leave a trail, you're gonna see where it busts through,
it's gonna snap branches, you're minimum going to see leave shaking.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Well, And why didn't the other kid react when.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
It happened, Yeah, like start screaming or something. Yeah, so
I don't know what to make of some of these.
And then of course you know they're the ones where
people just disappear in the thin air. Oh you know,
well that kid did, sure, but I mean adults too,
you know, just poof gone.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Well, and then you have the and then you know,
you start talking about the whole where they kid, where
the people disappear, like that one kid, he was like
well where he was like a toddler, and he disappeared,
and then like months later they find his corpse. Some

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rock climber.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Find his corpse up there in the crevice.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Yeah, yeah, in a boulder field nine miles away, but
he's only been dead for like a month or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Yeah, like a day. I mean it was like real
short time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
But it did not make it nine miles through the
damn woods and up five.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Hundred two thousand feet whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Yeah, uh, I don't know if y'all covered it while
I was going tinkle, But the the robotic Grandma one,
you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Yes, yeah, on Mount Shasta, or put the kid into
the cave and made him like try to use the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
And try to make them defecate, and yeah, have you
heard that one?

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
No, I have not heard this one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I know that one really really good.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Uh, well do tail.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
Yeah, So little kid went missing. It was I think
it was either Mount shast what's the other mountain?

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Rene?

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Renee was my ex girlfriend? No, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
So, so the kid went missing and they searched over
and over the same spots, blah blah blah, and then
they ended up finding him like four or five days later,
but he was in one of the same spots that
they had already searched like three or four times, and

(01:18:36):
he was laying there, curdled up and you know, and
they asked him and he didn't know nothing about nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
And then like a week or two.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Later, sometime later, he was talking to his grandma and
he's like, oh, I love you so much more than
the other elder grandma that you where. Yeah, And so
he ended up describing this like almost a robotic grandma

(01:19:09):
that looked just like his grandma that brought him up
into this cave and was trying to make him defecate
on like a paper substance, and and he was like, no, no,
I'm not going to do it. Well, you know, you know,
I guess argumentally defied the fact, and so they found him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Oh and there was there was in that cave. There
was skeletons of other people and old what he described
as old war rifles.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
So it was like kind of like if you think
about it, and you know, it's kind of like a
spot that you know, they've been abducting and putting into,
you know, people from back in the gap kind of
like on predator to or the predator hands.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Yeah, give them the old gun. Yeah, yeah, that was
That was a really weird one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
And you know, like same with like the Dennis Martin
thing that everybody knows that so yeah, yeah, but yeah,
I think those are.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
M h.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
If you really do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
I mean, I know that that you buy hollow earth?

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Right, boy? Yeah? Hollow?

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Why degree, it's flat a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
It's flat and hollow. The only part is not flat,
is not?

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Do you think? I mean, how do you feel about
the like cryptids and maybe things we don't even know
that are hanging out down there and popping up from
time to time and just yinking somebody off a trail
or out of a tent or whatever, yeah, you know,
and then taking them like not just into a cave,
but I mean down into like a hollower like down

(01:21:15):
that's why we're not finding bones.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
In the caves, right, Yeah, No, I I I feel
I'm very much with that theory. I think it's reptilians,
that's my personal thing. I think they have their spot
down there. You know that's under drake. Yeah, the drake,

(01:21:41):
the Draconians.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Draconians, blizzard faced dickheads. According to Resident Alien.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Yeah, yeah, they're the most disliked of all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
But no, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
I think it seemed like an insectoid would freak me out,
probably more than a drake on in the preying manaces,
something that bites that the partner's head off, Like I'm good,
you don't know me, keep you from biting whatever off
of me.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
My wife bites my head off all the time. So
I've accepted that's just what's going to happen. But no,
I I honestly I feel I I can understand that fact.

(01:22:34):
And it's the same that I've told you all before.
You know, I believe more in the when when y'all
asked or mindic ask me if I feel more scared
in space than in the ocean.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Ocean way more like. I think that's that's the best
place to hide.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
Underneath the earth is the best place to hide. I
think the lights in the sky thing is would be
intolerable to the inner earth people.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
A low light situation. That's understandable, right, Well, yeah, what
were those things in the time machine?

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
I don't remember. I know Chargola diet.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Well, yeah, the time.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
I think I think that the I think that the
UFO sky, you know at night light things is like
is like more locks there you go. That's like the
dudes that get kicked out of the mafia for exposing themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
Like that's the teflon Don's you know I did. You're
not supposed to bring a light to it, supposed to
stay underneath, and you know, quit bringing this publicity.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Because Carl, stay in the damn.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Cave exactly exactly, don't you know we're not supposed to
be seen back Carl, what are you doing with that hammer?

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
I know?

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
See when you say Carl, you think of that, I
think of uh, you know what I think of Carl
the neighbor from Aquitine Hunger Force. Oh, I'm telling you guys,
what's going on over here?

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Drink a couple of bees baby, It'll make you feel better.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Hand Banana No.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Uh, that's so great.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
You got to watch the hand Banana episode.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Yeah, that one and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
The moth Man when what was it? It's not It's
nine of the Living School Bus, That's what it's called.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
I love the ones where the frat the alien frat
dudes came down with.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
The moon and nights. It wouldn't because I'm doing it
as hard as I can.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
I wouldn't the moonized.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
But there was a there was a pair of alien
frat brothers that got drunk and they ended up showing
up and he's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Like, man, He's like, what do you got drink? And
they're like nothing. Man. He's like, man, this is worse
than the bitches on a fish boat, like the greatest
ship ever. Anyway, but back to sorry, I did not
mean to interrupt that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Now. I want to go watch Aquatin Hunger Force. You
know the Venture Brothers go teen Venture.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
M Yeah, I do. I do buy the I by
the fact that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
Okay, so, especially like in in Smoky Mountains, because I
went to the Smoking Mountains when I was a kid,
and I didn't know any of this at the time,
or you know, I had no inclination, but it has
a high courts content in the rivers and such, and

(01:26:35):
anywhere you find that, you find courts is what we
use for frequency, right, So I mean we all had
quartz watches because that's was the best oscillator you know,
for frequency, And so I think that that has a
lot to do with not necessarily well yeah, i'd say

(01:26:59):
intersert dimentional.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Teleportation. So that's just meaning, that's just what I there's
a there's a theory that Latinous and.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Champion are actually the same same thing, the same creature, right, yeah,
same creature, but it's it's it's because both of those
lakes have high course volumes, so they could be frequency.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Oh I thought you were.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Going to tell me they were connected through a hollow
earth tunnel where they leave.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
That's what I thought was coming to do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
I don't know where were you this week?

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
I know what I Hey, I signed myself out. Yeah,
but no, but yeah, there there's a whole there's a
whole theory on that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
Where it's there, it's phasing between the two spots. Yeah,
so whenever the Earth rotates, that it that it causes
a magnetic magnetic shift that that vibrationalizes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
The courts from one end, and you know somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Because that's some star Trek ship right there. Somebody needs
interested in getting to work faster, so they.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
Need I think somebody wrote that word down vibertalization because vibritization,
because that is an awesome word. I don't know where
you came up with it, but that is a freaking
awesome word.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
I got it from the I got it from the loving.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
So would y'all like to hear from the National Parks
Service spokesperson?

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Oh? Hell yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Is that their Twitter account? Because this will be good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
No, it's actually from a This is from the news
from out of Knoxville, Tennessee, Channel six news.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
There ain't nothing up in them mountains.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
National Parks Service spokesperson Cynthia Hernandez spoke with six News
on Thursday to explain more about missing or lost person
cases in national parks. She explained that through July twenty
second of this year, more than two thousand, two hundred

(01:29:46):
and two thousand to twenty two hundred p center of
search and rescue incidents in national parks in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Four how many of them are recovered?

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
That number, which includes data for more than four hundred
national parks nationwide. She said includes cases where a child
is temporary, is separated from their parents and is reunited
with them at a visitor center, as well as more complex,
multi day searches. She explained that the vast majority of
the people who are considered lost in the national parks

(01:30:24):
are quickly reunited with their families by rangers. The National
Park Service has a list of the twenty five cold
cases on its website, and only four are missing person
cases from the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. While four
of the twenty five may feel like a high percentage,

(01:30:45):
I love how they're addressing this. Of the arc with
the most missing persons cases on the list is Yosemite,
which has ten entries on the list. Hernandez said that
as long as case is open, there's still an operation
in progress to find them, even though it may look

(01:31:06):
different than a search someone who might go missing today.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
The operation is a poster in the office hoping somebody
gives it if they happen to see something on the
trail milk curtain.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
It's buried, but it's buried, but it's it's in the
it's in a bait shop. Buried behind me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
It is an open investigation.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Yeah, so that is from that is from the National
Parks spokesperson.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
Yeah, the woman uh Plais did his investigation on it.
He claimed that they Sanity and and Yellowstone and all them,
that they they literally had no documentation on people going

(01:31:59):
miss like that, no missing person's list.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Yeah, they didn't keep records of it. And they said,
but now here's what was odd to well. One of
the things what he on that he said that they
told him they didn't keep records. M but for a
million dollars or two million dollars they could get the records. Yeah,
either you keep them or you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Yeah, that's that's ricoculous.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
And yeah, yeah, is that another new word? Man, you're
just full of these new words.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
That's an old word for me. Actually, we'recoculous. If you
were playing, Yeah, if you replaced every.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
Word with this, says Dick with cock. Let's say you
look it up in the coctioner. You'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
So would you like to go over some of these
disparience disperiences the lively word dispeeriences, disperiences experiences.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Think, because I have to get to bed in about
fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
An hour and a half. They got a micro machines it. Well,
would y'all like to go save this and do it again?

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
Yeah, we can jump on it tomorrow on mine. Yeah,
I'm down.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Are you up for tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Texts?

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
I don't know if the war is going to let
you on or not, so yeah, I gotta check.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Uh, I'll try.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
It seems like a oh, I'm doing the Girls Show
tomorrow night. So yeah, I'm good. Okay, Yeah, I'll be
going on about ten. So I am interviewing. I am
interviewing me. And it wasn't gonna be Jason, but he's
he will be on Jason McLean will be on Josh's
show tomorrow. So it will we meet and somebody interviewing

(01:34:19):
the Swedish. See if I can get this right. The
Swedish Ambassador of dog Man. Oh is it No, it's
John Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
I thought it was the name.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
She had the map of all the dog Man sightings
a while back. She kind of fell off the map herself.
She was from Sweden and she had the dog Man map.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
He is he is the self proclaimed ambassador of dog Man.
Sure so he his friend has befriended a clan of
dog Man, so we will be interviewing him tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Does he speak with some telepatholically as well?

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
Well, I don't know. I haven't talked to the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
We're gonna find.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Out the ambassador. I think that he would have a
promo page or some sort of you know, flyer that
preceded him.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Yeah, well I'll be looking for I'll be asking about selfies.
I'm just saying so.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Now, I uh.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
Whenever I first started listening to Paranormal Round Table with
Joshua Show, of course, it was it was weird. It
was like the the I thirty five corridor between San
Antonio and you know, like north of Boston, like George.

(01:35:50):
It always seemed like, you know, because I was kind
of like mentally mapping it out, it's like dog manner
on one side and big Foot, or actually it's opposite.
Bigfoot are on like the west side of thirty five
and dog Man are.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
On the east.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
So yeah, I was kind of like I was kind
of taken back by that because like there's dog Man
and like Elgin, Texas and stuff like that, but if
you go over to like the west side of San Marcus,
it's more Bigfoot you know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
So I mean when you get into the Fort Worth area,
Oh yeah, I wouldn't swapside, literally swap side.

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
Yeah, and well and then I think about climate, right,
so you know, like even if there are blood and
fresh flesh creatures, you know, and people can argue that
all they want. But if I was a big hairy bastard,
I'd want to be kicking it in you know, Oregon

(01:36:58):
and Washington where it's nice and cool. And if I
was a kyote, yeah I'd I'd be in South Texas,
you know what I mean. So physiologically, yeah, it makes
sense to me on that level, but who knows what
we're actually dealing with.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
You know, Monday's Monday's front Port show is going to
be freaking awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Here you got.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Uh Danielle Stedman of dog Man Diaries is coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
Oh awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
Yeah, she is making her come back on my show.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Very nice.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
As long as life don't get away. But yeah, it was.
She is the first person that I ever publicly shared
my story with and got started. If it wasn't her,
I wouldn't be sitting here right now. Way't her?

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Are you doing a Sunday Night one? Are you doing
a midnight, I mean not midnight late night.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Plan.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
But we will see.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
But that's why. Well if you do shoot me, shoot
me late, I'm down. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, I.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
Have a plan, I have plans to do a lot,
but then.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Ship happens. Yeah yeah, okay, Well with that, you got
anything else to say before we sign off?

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Oh my, that's right. So the book that I want
to talk about tonight is one that I recently finished
and I liked it. It is an Appellationian monster story,

(01:38:54):
like a horror story. Yeah, it takes place in a
deep holler in the Malaysian mountains, and it is an
interesting twist on a vampire story. So what happens is,
you know, we all know they coal mine up there.
It's a big industry, lots of employment going on there,

(01:39:15):
especially in the hallers, Like that's the main source of
employment for a lot of communities, and it's no different
in this in this book. So it's called haint. Oh
that's a crappy photo, but whatever, you get the gist.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
It's like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
He's moonlighting as a model for horror book covers. I mean,
why m hm, that looks like what you saw a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Yeah, screw that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
So This is called haint. Do you know what a
haint is a lot of taint is, Well, everybody knows
what that taint. No big deal. So a haint is
uh is backwards for like they call it really spirits.
I always considered a haint a spirit, but really it's

(01:40:12):
anything that's supernatural and generally malicious. Right, they call them,
and you'll see them all over maps, like legit, you'll
see them on maps. You'll see like hat Hill, Hant,
cree hat, this haint that they think that place is haunted.
And I promise you nobody's going there.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
Maybe text wonder iful it comes from like a bridge
word between haunted and antagonists.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Well, I think that it's haunt with a deep Southern drawler,
or like they call it a haint. Yeah, I'm getting
ready to paint my porch haint blue. And this is
a nice little piece of like I don't know what

(01:41:01):
you would call this, like folklore that they can't cross water,
so you'll see a lot of porch roofs painted blue
because it fakes them out and they can't enter the house.
So you'll see a lot of haint blue porch roofs.
And I'm getting ready actually to paint my porch pint blue.
But in this story, a mind collapse triggers the events

(01:41:22):
of this book. So a mind collapses and then people
in the town and in the surrounding area start turning
up murdered in a most vicious way. Their throats are
torn out, and it is, like I said, an interesting
take on a vampire story. You've got, you know, deep
ties in Appalachia. You've got like cousins on both sides

(01:41:46):
of the law trying to work together to get this
thing solved. I enjoyed it. It's not a long story,
it's not overly complicated. There's plot holes, you know, but
it's entertaining. It's entertaining, and if you're just really looking
for a good like vampire book read, I recommend Haint.
And I don't think I don't think you'll go wrong

(01:42:08):
with it. If that's up your alley. And here it is.
There's the guy that Breezy interacted with this week modeling
for the cover of Haint by Samuel.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
You know, I'm telling you that is that is oddly I.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
Don't want to run into it, especially in a dark collar.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
So yeah, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
I don't want to run in a mental hospital. I
don't want to run into it in a dark collar either.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
Yeahs will be in touch, brother for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
And then next week I'm almost done with another book
that I'm reading, and you'll really enjoy this one text
because it's about mermaids. Oh, real mermaids that tear people
faces off.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
Yes, y'all got into the and this isn't going to
go far.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
So I'm not like shifting gears, but the whole there
mermaid buffets, the elite or.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
Oh yeah I've heard that recently. Yeah, mermaids now apparently, yeah,
going to be like belay, the murdering bastards. Yeah, they're
not they're not the they're not the little mermaid. They're
not sitting on a rock singing you lullaby. These things
are like eating your face off.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Yeah I'm too, I'm too immature for all that. But yeah,
that those were the mermaids. I'd rather.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
The ones that show your face.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
Yeah, okay, no, the hot mermaids, Like if I'm going
to eat a mermaid.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Yeah, okay, so I think that's it. Do you have anything, Joe?

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
Now, we'll do tomorrow's show and then if Texas doing
one on Sunday, I'll be there.

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
Other than that, it's you know, bringing it on so
and so forth for me. So same old nothing, nothing
you got, just what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
That's about it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
Okay, Well, catch us all back on Breezy Show tomorrow night.
Well we will pick up the conversation about the missing
people and the cave systems and we'll see what's going
on with that and we'll have further discussions over on
the Breezy Speakeasy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Yeah, So until next time, y'all, have a good night.

Speaker 6 (01:44:48):
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