6/5/25 - Dogman Ranch

Tonight we welcome the owner of Dogman Ranch, Ullerson, to discuss the creepy, and downright scary, experiences taking place on this beautiful chunk of Texas. Crawlers - got em. Fae - got em. Dogmen - well duh, got em. Listen in or join the live chat.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Howdy duty cats and games. It's Monica with our paranormal world.
For those of you that follow me on TikTok, I
put out a new video only on TikTok that talks
about It's a real quick one, it's not long at all.
That talks about the phantom car story. You know, when

(00:23):
that phantom car rolled up on me and my friend
in the middle of the night while we were getting
ready to set up camp.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I didn't catch I don't have TikTok.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
You don't have the tiki talk.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I do, but only mh I do.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
But I only got it through what the Facebook reels.
That's the only one. I don't literally have a TikTok cat,
but I catch TikTok videos.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Shame on you.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Never.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I will not conform.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Conform anything get going on this week? No, I mean
I've just been.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, I do have the uh finally got to catch Sinners.
I literally bought it streaming, So tomorrow means you're gonna
jam on that set.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Dude. We can dive into so much crap on that
There is so much folklore like buried in that thing
that you got to know what you're looking at.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
There is, but I found a lot of plot holes.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Maybe go all right, you since those plot holes up
for you because you don't know the particular history.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it if anybody
can sinch things up for me at you. But other
than that, no, it's been a long day. It's been
a long day. I went to a barbecue like noon,
and everyone's treating noon like it's not first thing in

(02:19):
the morning.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Which it is for me. So so I'm like, what.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Everybody's partying and acting like it's you know, five o'clock
in the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well not everybod than that, you know, I mean, straight,
how you being okay?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, Well, I mean I don't have I don't have
a job right now, so I get to I get
to live it up. And it was funny because I
got back from it and my nephew and my son
they didn't even wake up till so like seven in
the afternoon, Like they partied all night hanging out playing videos.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Seven the next night.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Night, yeah, like yeah, they evening whatever, but yeah, they
didn't even wake you know, because was like, uh, you
gotta get back and make sure the eat blah blah blah,
and I'm like, so I got back to like two
or something and children watch some movies and stuff, and

(03:31):
then they didn't even come out of the room till
like seven.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Do you have to say, like, hats off to you
for being vertical still after attending a barbecue in the
middle of the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I thought I thought it was afternoon.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
So I am.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I know you wouldn't. I am going to bring up
our guests because tonight our guest is Allerson, and he
is the property owner at dog Man Ranch. And I
know that if you've listened to me at any point
in time over the last six eight months, you've heard
texts and I at the very least talking about dog

(04:25):
Man Ranch and all the crazy things that go on there.
I had the fortune, they have good fortune, to spend
another well day out there. I really didn't stay the
night because I'm too old to be camping in the heat.
I can't do that shit anymore. But I did spend
the full day there, and there was some interesting things
that happened the night right before we left in the evening.

(04:48):
But I'm going to bring on Allerson and we're going
to talk to him and let him tell us all
about dog Man Ranch.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Hey Allerson, right, thanks for coming on. Well, thanks for
asking me. So we're wanting to start with beginnings.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, I think that it would be good because all
people know about it, obviously, we're tight left about where
it's located and a lot of details about it. All
they know is what text and I tell them, and
it's the spooky things that we have witnessed or experienced there.
So the land itself goes back quite a ways in

(05:30):
your family, I believe, So I figured we'd start with that,
like how your family came into acquisition of it and
the things that have happened to the family over the yearth.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
So extended family the land in this area, basically ancestral
cousins or whatever you want to call it, acquired the
land back early eighteen hundreds. My great grandfather ended up

(06:03):
purchasing the little bit of the homestead that we have
left back in the late eighteen hundreds, about eighteen ninety six.
I believe he was actually born in a little cabin
that was right next I mean it's six hundred yards

(06:26):
from where the house I'm living in. So he was
born back eighteen sixties there. Okay, so the family's been
here for a very long time. I mean he was
still growing up fighting Indians on the place.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
In fact, I mean he sat there and watched the
commansion bury and they're dead over on one of the
hills over here. So it's definitely a lot of a
lot of bloodshed over through this area and everything else.
It's right along the same areas what the cattle drives
were always run through. The area, y'all camp at down

(07:12):
there is one of the easiest places to cross that creek,
and so therefore that was also most likely where the
comanches would ambushed. The text picks out a great spot.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, it is actually a really good spot, and it's
an excellent ambush spot. The only other place that I've
been on personally, obviously you have quite a few acres.
I'm sure that your original homestead encompassed a vast swamp
compared to what's there now. But the only other place
that I would be interested in camping would be the
old homestead, like actually at the old homestead, because that's

(07:52):
another place that looks well. I don't know about crossing
the creek, but it definitely is easy access down there.
I mean you can see the.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
Cattle that was actually where the original creek crossing was
fifty sixty years ago. And then they whenever the Wolfield
kind of came in, they moved the creek crossing to
that other spot. Both of them were kind of a
natural cutout for the creek as far as we're going
through there. Obviously, through the years, the erosion has made

(08:24):
that original one where it's unless you have something that's
set up for rock crawling, you're not going to do it.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's beautiful, but it's shaded. It's spooky for sure. I
mean those bow dark trees over where we thought that
that grave would be we were investigating that first night
I was there. Yeah, that that in itself is just
I'm not there's something in there. There's something in those woods.
And you know, people, I've got to tell you know,

(08:52):
we talk about dog Man. It's called dog Man Ranch,
but there's more than just dog Man floating around this ranch.
Texas had an experience with a crawler, and Ullerson obviously
has had experiences with those. There's they there's a lot
of fail on that partment. And then for sure there's.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
A lot a lot of them, and they like those
boodog trees.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah they do. Yeah, they do. And I would say
that it's not necessarily like a seally court thing. I
would say it's more if you're going by the courts,
it would be more of an uncily hanging out in
that area.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yeah, definitely not the nice ones. Of course, none of
them are nice, but.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, some of them are more tolerant than others. I
wouldn't really want to Jack.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
I've been told by people that there's elementals. I've been
told by people that there's obviously, I know there's a
lot of paranormal going on as far as ghosts and
things of that such, But I mean just some of
the weird things that I've seen over the years that
I've push down my mind, like, nope, I imagine that. No, No,

(10:03):
I didn't see that. That was your speaking of imagination.
And then of course my friends go, I saw that too, and.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
You're like, dude, I'm trying to like not have nightmares here.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
Yeah, exactly, you know, and it's kind of one of
those things. You see these little things that look like ewalks,
don't go up and try to hugglem. Yeah no, they're
not friendly.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, no, especially you know what, so I found it's
like bouncing around in my noggin because I saw a
new creature video about a creature that I had never
heard of before, and it is a South African water
spirit and it looks just like a pucklogy. It looks
just like those little vicious turds, but it's a water

(10:52):
spirit and so it hangs out near water in their
short and furry they look like one of the critters.
They really with legs and they've got sharp teeth, and
they are known for like chomping on people and dragging
them down, obviously dragging them into the water. But it's
interesting to me because there clearly we talk about the creek.

(11:15):
Water is a very prominent thing on this property, and
I wonder, you know these spirits that are similar all
over the world. Obviously different names, but they're very similar things.
I don't know if they're spirits. I don't know if
they're a type of fay. I'm leaning towards a type
of fay. But it's interesting to me. When I saw that,

(11:36):
I immediately thought of puck wedgies, and then I thought of
the ranch and the potential for those things to be there.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
I haven't seen any and over twenty five years. But
I have seen the little bastards and they are not friendly,
and there's usually more than one. I think the group
that my friends and I saw there was probably five
or six that they Apparently we're not expecting a group

(12:09):
of teenagers to be armed.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well, yeah, but considering the history, because this isn't this
is a pretty rural property. It's not near any big
major cities, there's not and it's pretty remote. You know,
there's nobody just accidentally stumbling onto your camp.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
If you're camp down by the creek exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
So I would imagine that any creature that was inhabiting
that land would have limited exposure to other people, you know,
or other yeah, other people outside of your family. So
they would be silly to think that you wouldn't be armed.
The point I'm making I feel that your generations was

(12:59):
not unarmed.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
Yeah, I mean even I mean, heck, my father bought
me my first pistol whenever I was ten years old.
I had my first rifle at six, so it's kind
of one of those things of anytime I went down
in the woods, I was always armed. Of course, he

(13:22):
never wanted me to go down there anywhere near dark
or anything else. He always wanted me to be up
at the house before dark. He didn't want me going
down in the woods unarmed, he always said, because of
you know, mountain lions, Bobcat's coyotes, something like that. But
it was just one of those things. And then looking

(13:42):
back on at all the stories and everything that my
grandmother would tell me and everything else, it all kind
of lines up to being Okay, there's something else in
there that they knew about.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Sure, So what are if you're willing to share or
what are some of the stories that your grandmother would
tell you that are lining up now?

Speaker 6 (14:06):
So a lot of the paranormal stuff. So basically in
the house, her house, she would smell cigar smoke, and
the whole Prince Edward tobacco smoke. She would smell that,
and she would see his shadows. She always said that
there were the forced people or the woodland people would

(14:32):
would not take too client kindly to somebody being in
their area, you know, And we always thought it was
just heart trying to scare us not to be in
there in the dark, down in the woods. Yeah, And
she tell us that Dad, my dad would be down
in there from sun up to sun down, but he'd
always be back before dark. The whole tapping on the

(15:00):
windows was a common thing, and she would say that
stuff would be tapping on the windows and trying jiggle
in the doors and stuff like that in the middle
of the night. And again we're out in the middle
of nowhere. There's not people going to be out there
doing that.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
But no, not if they don't want to. But full shot, you.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Know, yeah, exactly. So it was just kind of one
of those things that you know, she would give us
those kind of stories as far as that goes.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Did she ever make any recommendations for leaving offerings while
you're down there?

Speaker 6 (15:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
No, somebody was making comments on you know, it sounds
very indigenous, and yeah, the command she were definitely on
the land, at least near the creeks. Now, from your
house to the creek. I haven't spent a time of
time over on your property, so I don't know how
far it is from your.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
House to one mile as far as the as the
crow flies, it's one mile, okay, because I know how.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Big is this property? Like, what are we talking? I'm
trying to get like.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
A visual two thousand acres Jeevus h cribis okay.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, it's it's a pretty decent chunk of land.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Yeah, technically I own a hundred or own vide of
that between me and my cousins. But as far as
the rest of it, it was all at one point
in time family land. It sold off throughout the year.
Now with the current owners, we do have permission to
be on it for the time being kind of thing.

(16:36):
So that's the reason why we have limited time as
far as what we're able to explore in those areas now.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
And I just I hate that we're getting into the
summer months because I'm not kidding when I say I
cannot camp. I just can't not sleep in the heat.
And I don't know, like I can't deal with Yeah,
I just I can't sleep. I can't fall asleep if
I'm hot. When I was a kid, sure, whatever, I mean,
it was uncomfortable, but I can power through it. Now

(17:06):
I just can't because I'm saying that because I would
love to spend a lot more time out there, you know,
as you would, you know, you and your family would
allow us to. But it's just it's just stifling, y'all.
I mean, even with the creek, right there, it's stifling.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Well with the creek being as shallow as it is,
it gets warm quick.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah. It was like it was like tep in bathwater
when we were trudging through it.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
And with all the rain and everything we've gotten, it's
not clear at the moment. It takes it to It
takes it about a week or two after the heavy
rains to clear up.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I mean I figured as much. I told text,
like later in the summer August dish, when you know
there is no rain, it might be a better time,
because you know he's that. And when I tell people
this creek is clear, I mean this creek when it's
not raining, is crystal clear. It's got to be spring fed.
I mean it's it's incredibly clear, and it's clear. This

(18:11):
water is clear, Yes, but it's very inviting because I
can tell you when I was there in November and
it was cold as hell, I was like that looks
like I mean, if I see clear water, I want
to get into it, even though it's like twenty degrees outside.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Does it have that effect where it looks more shallow
because it's yeah, yeah cool.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, because it's one of the deeper spots that text
wants to go kind of swimming in. When it's at
its normal level, it's probably about three and a half
feet maybe four foot deep, And if you're looking at
it from up top, it looks like it's maybe two.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Foot at best. Yeah, it looks.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
But whenever you start walking in there, then it starts
to get up about right here. Yeah, at the deepest words,
I guess it'd be closer to four foot there. But yeah,
it's it's very clear. It's great water to go fly
fishing in.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean I imagine there are definitely fishing there.
I mean it was semi clear when I was there,
and we could see some of the smaller fish, the minnows.
There are some rock formations that I was unfortunately touching.
I don't like water that I can't see through, and

(19:38):
I'm like, very quickly got out at that point because
I don't want to snapping turtle latching onto me. And
they've got to be there.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
They are, I've seen a few of them. Yeah, but
it's it's one of those things of the water is
definitely h it's definitely fun.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, it is. That's just one feature of the property.
I mean, like I said, it's a gorgeous piece of
property in what's in store for.

Speaker 6 (20:10):
It's got the old growth trees that are down there
in the bottom that are, i mean, something you would
expect in Georgia or something more like that, and just
massive oaks and.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Like century trees, like the centuries. There's an oak tree
down near the homestead that I have a picture of.
I think it's on my Facebook page back the last November.
I don't even think I could get the whole tree
in one shot without making everything else look this big
in it because the branches on this thing are so massive.

(20:48):
It's it's just it's an incredible piece of land. But
getting back to the the creatures, in the stories of
the creature and the experiences of the creatures, Jojo asked,
doesn't Ulerson have a name for one of his dog men,
like Clifford or something.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Well, we originally started calling all of them spooky Clifford,
just because you know, they're a big dog and they
tend to be spooky. But the main one, the big
silver one, is kind of the one that we refer
to as Clifford. Now, he's if I had to guess,

(21:30):
it'd probably say that would be the alpha of the pack,
that's the biggest one. He's probably easily eight to eight
and a half foot tall, massive, that's I'm pretty sure
that's the one where I have the picture of the
track that's nine inches across, So that would be him

(21:55):
and likes. After the initial run in with them and
us figuring out kind of where we fit with one
another cohabiting the area, we've I'm not afraid of them.

(22:20):
I respect them. I understand that you know they're they're
predature animal, but I treat them like I would any
other presture animal out there.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Now, So what was your initial interaction with these guys
or with Clifford specifically, So with Clifford, I didn't see
him the first time.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
The first time, it was a solid black one. Our
dogs were And that's the recent time kind of I've
started remembering that I've seen them before when I was
younger and teenagers and had them running around us in
the fields whenever my friends were out there. We just

(23:05):
kind of ignore them. You could see them out of
the corner of your eye, but you couldn't see them
if you look straight out.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yea, and.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Yeah, So back then, of course, there was no internet
and everything else. So we really couldn't research them much
other than looking through the old books in the library.
But the recent time, whenever this really happened was I
was getting ready to go work and the dogs didn't

(23:38):
want to go outside at all. They were freaking out.
They just would not go outside whatsoever. They'd go to
the door, they'd stop and they'd whimper and run back
and go under their kennels. So I'm thinking, okay, we
have a mountain lioning outside something like that. All right,
I have my work flashlight and my duty pistol, which

(24:01):
is just a simple glock. I'm Model twenty two, which
is a forty caliber. Go outside. I start shining and
flashlight out around. I having to see eyes shine. I'm like, well,
but there shouldn't be a cow there. That doesn't look right,
you know, because the eyes were spaced out about like

(24:23):
what a cow would be. And so I start walking
down to it, and I'm like, if one of the
cows got loose or something like that, Okay, cool, you know,
I figure that out and I'll deal with it in
the morning. When I get back from work. I'm walking.
As I'm walking closer and closer, I'm like, no, there's
things laying on the ground, and then I get close

(24:44):
enough that I can see it with my flashlight. And
whenever I say close enough to see it with my flashlight,
I'm using my weapons mounted flashlight at this time, So
I'm about thirty forty foot from it. Here, I am
looking at this dog or K nine that is basically

(25:06):
down on the ground. You know how a dog will
get down on all fours like it's going to try
to pounce on something, and it's broadways to me, and
it's facing and paying more attention to what our horse
and mule are doing in their pen instead of paying

(25:28):
attention to me. Right well, unfortunately, you know, I see
it as a predator and I see that it's looking
at my livestock. So naturally I put a shot into
it broadside, which should have been a kill shot, plain
and simple. I hit it center mass, right where the

(25:49):
heart and lungs should have been, using my hornity critical
duty loads. So we're talking about ammunition that should be
able to knock down anything in the state of Texas.
Sure you can see the impact. This thing gets up

(26:14):
on all fours, turns and looks at me, and then
stands up on its hind legs. At this point, I'm
just sitting here like, well, shit, a couple of choice words,
and then just say valhala, here I come. I take
two more steps towards it, line up my three x

(26:37):
three shots. I do two shots to the chest, one
to the head. That's how I was trained, that's what
I'm supposed to do. You can see the hit on
the third shot where it hits its head. It kind
of does this, shakes its head, looks at me, and
just walks away like it's annoyed with me.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Is it still on two legs?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Okay, yeah, it just kind of kind of walks away.
I'm like, okay, well, and for a penny, in for
a dollar. So I'll go to where it was to
look to see if I could find blood or anything else,
because it should have had blood there, sure, one or

(27:22):
two drops, maybe really not much, just a little bit,
and it not near as what much is what should
have been, right, So kind of back back up the

(27:43):
hill and back up towards the house and get inside,
go change my underwear, and then get ready to go
to work again. Because I'm sorry, I don't anybody.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I'm right there with you.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
If I wouldn't have even gone to look for blood. Dude.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, it just changed my whole ginkos.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Yeah, so yeah, I got changed. The whole night, I'm
sitting here work and of course i'm out of sight
that's outside. So I'm sitting in my car and I
have to go do walk rounds on the outside. And
it's next to the wilderness and another creek that actually
is close to fairly close and ties into you know,
the woods and everything that are around my house. And

(28:30):
so it's like, did this thing follow me? I know
them seventeen eighteen miles away, but did this thing follow me?
So the whole night, I'm sitting here freaking out on it,
and I'm trying to figure out what it was. So
I'm searching the internet everything else. You know, I'm like,
this thing look like a damn werewolf. I mean, plain
and simple. I was thinking, okay, well there used to

(28:53):
be Indians around here, maybe a skinwalker or something like that.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
You know.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
I ended up getting on Facebook out of an Appalachian
cryptid page or something like that. Either way, it was
one of the first pages I found. So I described
what it was and told them, Hey, what what am
I looking at? What am I down with here? And
that was the first time I heard of a dog
man and I was told to reach out to a

(29:19):
certain podcaster about that. Okay, did not have the best
experience with that, so I was kind of hesitant on
it and everything, and we continued to have experiences with
them a little after that. You know, about a month

(29:40):
or so went by after that, and I'm down in
I pop up deer stand and my wife's coming in
from the Word and she calls me. She goes, hey,
there's something coming down there towards you.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
It's big.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
It looks like a big old deer is massive. Oh okay, cool.
So I'm getting ready for it. Yeah, and the only
gun okay, so the guns I have with me because
I'm going to pop upstand and I'm not fifty yards
from where I had a little feeder set up. Because

(30:14):
this is Texas, we don't actually hunt.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
We bait, and.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
I had a lever Action forty five long Colt. That's
what I was hunting there with, Okay, because I wasn't
shooting two hundred yards, I wasn't doing any long range
with it. I did have a pig gun with me,
which that probably would have worked on this thing if

(30:41):
it was close maybe because well, I mean it was
Russian machine gun is what it was, seven twenty five
the PPSh forty three, so you know, fifty rounds of
some really nasty ammo that works great on pigs. Whenever

(31:03):
there's twenty or thirty of them, you put a lot
of imo out there and lay a lot of carnage out.
So I imagine that might have actually gave me a
half half a chance against this thing if it.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Was close enough.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
But two hundred yards away on the other side of
the field is where this thing comes out of the
fence line, out of the trees. It comes out the
fence and its shoulders are at the top rung of
the barber fence. And I actually recorded it with my phone.
It's an iPhone eleven is what it was at that time,
so not the best quality, especially at dusk two hundred

(31:42):
yards away trying to zoom in and see this thing,
but you can see it move across, stop and then
stand up, and it's like at that point in time
is whenever it stood up looked straight at me, is
whenever I said, yeah, it's time to pack up and

(32:03):
go home.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
So that's what it.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
That night, we decided to go get some dinner in
town and we were going to leave, and it's right
before we were going across one of the cattleguards, I
happened to see something on the other side of it
that didn't look right.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
So I hit the.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Brakes before I got across it, and my wife didn't
have a good feeling. I didn't have a good feeling.
It was just kind of one of those something didn't
feel right. This felt like an ambush. Something's not right.
And so whenever I get out of the truck, I
have my pistol drawn already. My wife has her pistol drawn.
She's in the truck kind of keeping an eye on

(32:40):
things and watching my back and watching around. Something had
taken the barber. We have coils of barber and we'd
hang them up on the fence next to areas that
we always had breakage. And something had taken that coil
of barber off of the fence and uncoiled it across
the road to where if you drove over it, it

(33:01):
was going to wrap up over your axles. Yeah, so
it's booby trapped.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
That's pretty smart. That's pretty smart.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
And my wife just had the feeling to take a picture.
She took a picture. Sure enough, behind the gas well equipment.
You can see the silhouette of a K nine with
the tears and everything else. Well, this gas well equipment
is about three and a half foot high off the ground,

(33:29):
and this thing's about a foot and a half above that,
and it looks like it's just sitting behind there. And
she took two pictures. One it wasn't there, one it was.
So it's things like that. Later on, I was heading
to another job and going to work, and as I'm

(33:53):
pulling through, there's an area on the driveway where it's
heavily treed. On each side, you have a fence with
a telyn on this side, and then on this side
it's all trees. I'm pulling through and here comes this
big boy, this will be Clifford walks out right in
front of me on two legs to where I stopped

(34:15):
in the road and I'm between trees and he just
walks out right in front of me, and I'm like,
all right, this is the same type of method that
was used overseas. Something walks out in front of you
and stops you and you get hit from both sides.
So I'm sitting here and I have my hand on

(34:37):
the steering wheel. Still I'm sitting here watching it, and
without moving my head, I'm kind of doing this number
of trying to look around and see where it is
without turning my head. And sure enough, I catch movement
out of this side and I see that it's, you know,
coming up and getting closer and closer to the car.
And about the time, you know, I've already reached over

(34:59):
grabbed my piss out on my duty belt and I'm
sitting here and I just put it under my arm
towards not really visible very well and have it pointing
in that general direction. And about the time it walks out,
I turned that the light on on it. Well, come
to find out, this is the one I shot before,
because it is missing part of its nose. Okay, it

(35:21):
looks like I got it right on the snout part
because you could see the teeth really well. It had
a nasty scar.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Gave him a little snaggle like.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
Yeah, yeah, gave gave him a cleft lip.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
And I'm going to guess it's probably a female, but
it snarls even more at me. Uh, and the only
way I can describe it is the one in front
of me. It looks like it started laughing, just the

(35:57):
body movement like it was laughing. Shoulders, yeah, yeah, the
shoulders moving up and down, and it kind of shaking
its head like that, and it just turns and starts
walking back into the wood. The other one kind of
glares at me, and you can tell it growls, and
it just turns and walks away like like that didn't work.

(36:17):
So it's testing me. Sure, That's the only thing I
can come up with, is Zoo's testing me. And yeah,
it's scared the living hell out of me, but I'm
going to make sure it remembers me when it's cold.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Well, I mean it's interesting because they're displaying like a
serious level of intelligence that I think a lot of
people don't subscribe or ascribe to a lot of these creatures, right.
They think that they're just animals or maybe they have
some intelligence. But this is like a pretty high level
of intelligence.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
Have you ever seen terriers hut? No, like actual working terriers.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
No, I haven't seen terrier. I've seen other working dogs,
but not a terrier.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
All right, So working terriers, whenever you get them and
turn them loose on rats. They will do this. They
will actually set traps and funnel the rats in to
the rest of the pack where they can just slaughter them. Okay,
I mean, yeah, they are extremely intelligent. They will push

(37:28):
their prey into a box, They will set up ambushes.
They will do things like that, and or you can
even think of like the raptors, like they will show
on Jurassic Park, same kind of thing. When your attention
is drawn to one, there's more coming up on you.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
And well that's a classic ambush, right.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
That's yeah, you know, it's a classic one. I mean
there's a lot. Okay, so they're an ambush predator, so
it's mountain lion. Mountain lion gets in a train which
for you to go underneath it and drops on you.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Mm hm.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
So it's animalistic behavior, definitely, But they're definite they also
have a lot more intelligence to them than what your
average animal would have.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Sure, well, I agree, I agree, But I mean I
think that these cryptids, so my experience, at least through
the stories I've heard, are specifically with dog men that
they try to invoke fear, because there are plenty of
stories where these things had plenty of opportunity.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
To just take annihilate.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, I mean they are clearly superior in strength and
you know, muscle everything, right, so they could completely take
people out if they so desired. But what they're doing
rather than that is toying with them, kind of cat
and mouse. They're they're making you fearful, and it makes
me wonder if there isn't some kind of energy transference

(39:10):
through that fear, if they're feeding on it in a
manner of speaking, it might be. Yeah. I mean, maybe
they're so intelligent they're just like watch this ball go
and freak you out, to see you then get you
to prep your pants, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, right, or even like almost kind of like an
energy vampire type of thing, like you know, like feeding
off that sense of it. You know, just just a thought.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, Jojo wants to know what you alder send. What
you think the dogmen are. Do you think that they're
flesh and blood? Do you think they're a type of fade?
Do you think that they're a spiritual thing?

Speaker 6 (39:55):
I think they're Loki's offspring.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Okay, that's cool, dude, I never okay, I got you.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Okay, So one of Loki's children in mythology was fin Rear.
Fin Rear had offspring of upright and talking wolves.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
It's in the mythology from eight hundreds. Then whenever you're
dealing with Bigfoot and all those okay, the yut Yuten
were described as all kinds of different things. They were big, small, nasty,
disposition able to do magic where they could fade in

(40:37):
and out, they could cloak, they could disappear, they make
themselves looks like something else.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Okay, and they can do all of that.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
I mean, at least through if.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
You're listening through everybody's encounters, everybody has obviously something different happened.
But if you group them all together, that's I mean,
all of those things happen.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
That that you actually, uh that got my mind flowing. Man,
I never put those two and two together, but that, yeah,
I can dig it. I mean, not kicking it out
of bed. I'm going to subscribe and tell it. H
Pruves's point against me.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Well, I mean you can look and read all the mythology,
all of the old books and everything else that described
it and described their mannerisms, their behavior. Would they like
to do? They like toy with humans.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
So now I agree it that's off to that one.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Kind of one of those things of like okay, well
the shoe fits, sure, waste it up.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
So Jojo, who is just in love with this topic
in this particular chunk of land through the story she's
heard thus far, has another question she wants to know.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
I think one of the juveniles was seen over on
the farm to market rogue.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Oh yeah, when.

Speaker 6 (42:14):
Right before that chopper showed up. Okay, I'm pretty sure
of it, all right.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
So the question I'll read out loud for the people
that are listening as opposed to watching, is Jojo says,
I'm curious about the black, unmarked choppers and how they'd
know about dog Man Ranch. Does Olderson think they are
micro chip or government monitored? So Older some thinks that
one of the juveniles was seen out on the farm

(42:41):
to market, So are they more prolific a certain time
of year?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Liked?

Speaker 6 (42:45):
Because wintertime?

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Wintertime? I was going to say, because I didn't really
get any dog Manny vibes while we were out there
this past weekend. Now there are other things. Huh.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Pops was saying they were out there when they first
got there, but usually when it starts getting warmer, I
don't see them. I always thought they just went into
the cooler areas because well, I mean, they're big, harry
and it's gotta suck. So but now I'm starting to
wonder about that because during the summertime, you see more

(43:18):
of these other things running around, and when you do
see or have the feeling of the dog Man or whatever,
they seem to stick together tighter. They don't venture out
away from the pack as much. They stay Yeah, they

(43:39):
stay tighter together, like there's I mean, honestly, it's almost
they act like there's something out there that they're scared of.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Sure, And so that's going to lead into what I
was going to say next, is there's more. As we
spoke about earlier, there's more than just dog Man on
this ranch. We call it dog Man Ranch because I
mean I was there. Okay, So Ollerson met texts at
the dog Man conference that Josh Turner put on right,

(44:07):
and I was sitting next to text when Ollerson first
walked up to texts to describe what was going on
at the property. So I remember, I was just so
curious and I followed up with texts like later on,
I was like, did you ever did you ever follow
up with that because I was like, I want to
go there. So the first mention of the ranch that

(44:29):
we got was specifically you were relaying some dog man
activity that had been happening around the ranch. But there
are other things there, like specifically these A lot of
people call them white crawlers. We just call them crawlers. Yeah, ghules,
and I wouldn't doubt that they are something similar or

(44:53):
maybe they are ghoules. Heck, I don't know, it makes sense,
but techs had an encounter with one. You guys think
it threw him off the porch, grabbed him and pulled
him off the porch at was at the house or
the barn that he.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
Was at the barn, so he went up the steps
and essentially was antagonizing it because you know texts, but
he does. Yeah, and he turned around and something got
my attention to where I looked away and uh, but

(45:31):
my wife was still watching texts, and whenever he went
to go take a step off, something reached up, grabbed
and did that around his ankle and he didn't fall
down the steps. He ended up landing about five ft
away from them.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
That's a lot of force for texts.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I mean that's yeah, that's quite a bit of strength
to be tossing texts.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
Especially one handed.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, so crouched position, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (46:06):
And because whenever I turned around, of course, you know,
I hear the commotion, I turn around, and I see
something about the same size as me staying to the ground.
I mean, it's only it's like almost army crawling, only
this high off the ground, and it just scurries off
into the stinking thicket. And that's whenever I asked Texts

(46:28):
for the actual description of what he saw, because at first,
you know, he just said I saw some great thing
of running up them, and I'm like, okay, you know,
and then I asked him for the actual description, and
that's whenever he told me he goes, well, it is
about the same size as a person. It went up
the side of the wall. It was this gray. It
didn't make a noise or anything else. I said, okay, yeah,

(46:50):
I've dealt with these before. And he's about that time
whenever all the color ran out of my face and
everything else, and the rifle that was just slung on
my shoulder is not slung on my shoulder anymore. Sure,
so I do not like these things. There is very

(47:13):
little chance you're gonna come out on top whenever you're
dealing with one of these things, much less if you're
dealing with multiples.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
It is definitely a terrifying creature. Just when they are close,
it gives you this sick feeling in your gut, just
a not like I mean, just you know something's not right,

(47:45):
and that gives you cold sweats. It's it's just definitely
something that shouldn't belong.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Oh, I mean, I want to see one. I haven't
encountered them, but I want to talk about this last
weekend that we were all there, even though I was
only there for a day, more there for multiple days.
That was not me, but the night that I was there,

(48:21):
you and me, your wife and friend, and my husband
and Nick. We're all out there on the road and
we were walking from where we camp down a dirt
road immediately after camp. There's a field on one side

(48:42):
and trees and a creek on the other for a
good chunk of that road heading towards the homestead. And
at one point the field disappears and you've got trees
on both sides, and off to the left is a
pretty decent tops of trees, and there's a cemetery back

(49:03):
in there. Correct, You guys found a cemetery in there.
And Nick was getting some really weird readings on his thermal.

Speaker 6 (49:17):
Yeah, it's pretty bad. I was telling him where to look, yeah,
and where they were at.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
But well, this is what's interesting is Nick had his
thermal set to black as hot and white as cold, right, yep. Yeah,
and he was seeing white. What you was saying, looking black,

(49:45):
It wasn't throwing off heat. It was throwing off cold.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
It's interesting. What he was saying was a good twenty
to thirty degrees cooler than the ambient temperature. Yeah, and
it was, you know what little he could see. It
was about six foot tall and it would kind of
go from tree to tree and poke around the tree.

(50:10):
So it was following us, it was.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
And at one point we are walking down the road,
we passed the homestead. We're going into this area that
gives me the creeps. I don't like. I don't like
driving through it. I sure didn't like walking. I sure
didn't like walking through it unarmed. But I figure, I'm
surrounded by four heavily armed people, I'm okay, and I

(50:38):
don't know why I didn't bring my side arm. I
had my side arm last time. I don't know why
this time. I wasn't thinking about it. But anyway, done.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
As we hadn't enough to take down just about anything
if we would be able to.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, so we're walking into this follow essentially right, and
you guys, like it's hard to explain texts filmed there
last time back in November, he caught something kind of
peekabooing around a tree at him and I can't even

(51:14):
describe it, y'all. This these trees are so thick, there's
like really not a lot of there's some vegetation growing
under him, but it's a floodplain. It's flat as can be.
And these trees are old and dark, and I mean
the trees are dark, not it's given shade. The trees

(51:34):
are dark. And the energy getting thrown off of this
general area is just super creepy.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
So as we're we will experience time loss in that area.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
See, i'd be curious. Yeah, I have never experienced time
loss before.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
So my wife and I went in there and it
was really weird because you can see through them during
the day. You can see from the road, you can
see to the other field on the other.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Side of them.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
So it's like, okay, that's only you know, fifties to
one hundred yards across through here. And you start walking
through there and it feels like you've already walked fifty
to one hundred yards and it doesn't look like you
got any further. And then you turn back and look
and yeah, you're you're that far from the you know,
it's almost like as soon as you walk in there,

(52:21):
they expand.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
It just gets bigger and everything else. And you're in there,
and we thought we were in there for you know,
thirty forty minutes when we get back and look, we're
in there for three hours exploring around. There's archways all
over the place in there. And whenever I say archways,
I'm talking about where something took a boat arch tree

(52:48):
and warped it to where it would arch and it
would go down to the ground and you'll see trails
going to but not going through it and to the
other side. So it's like, h okay, that's a little weird.

(53:10):
And again, like I said, you will definitely lose track
of time in those that area of woods, all right.
That's also the area where he was looking through there
and he was seeing some of the trees that were
showing white.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, which was interesting to me because you would think
that trees would at minimum be ambient, right, yeah, yeah,
dead tree is going to be ambient. Really, any of
them should be ambient or warmer. But they were showing
cold and it was so bizarre. Like Nick, who is
really kind of he's a young guy, he is really.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
Kind of, you know, extremely skeptic.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, extremely skeptic and.

Speaker 6 (53:55):
Like extremely skeptic.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Yeah, because he was talking about all but when they're
all walking and then, let me tell you, we got
not even a quarter of the way down the road,
something growled at us to the right, right, it was
off to our right, yeah, and Nick was We all
stopped and Nick got down on a knee and was
looking straight ahead. The road kind of bends, but he
was looking off into the trees because he was looking

(54:18):
straight and that's when he saw white like trees showing cold,
and he was seeing something kind of in between the trees,
like like like shimmer, yeah, kind of shimmering. And he
was like nope, no, I'm good. And I was like,
you don't want to walk in there, You don't want
to go down into the woods. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:42):
Yeah, that's also whenever he started noticing that there was
more than just one of those things that was out
there as far as the cold spots that was moving
that was humanoid shape. Yeah, so that was whenever we
decided to kind of go back and whatever ground at
us on the right. I got the impression that it

(55:02):
was trying to tell us turn around and go back, now, Yeah,
that it wasn't more so threatening us that it was
warning us.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
And of course then he's he's sitting here and I've
told him I've used thermal on on them before, and
I've never been able to pick up the dog man.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Aum.

Speaker 6 (55:23):
It's really weird because you'll have perfect, perfect, perfect, fuzzy, perfect,
perfect perfect. Okay, well, where's the dog man fuzzy.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
The fuzzy part.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
Yeah, where your equipment is malfunctioning, that's where it's at.
And so he starts looking in the direction where the
ground came from. Perfect, perfect, perfect, fuzzy, perfect, perfect, and
he couldn't figure out why his equipment was messing up
in one spot. Yeah, well that's where it's at now,

(55:56):
and we're shining the flashlights in there and that's whenever
we see movement in there and it's something dark and gray.
That furry was moving back in the thicket, and it's like, yeah,
all right, let's go back. And as we're walking back,
I'm starting to realize that area that we went through,

(56:19):
where there's trees that are tight on each side, that's
a perfect kill box. Yeah, I'm sitting here, Okay. That's
the reason why he was telling us go back, because
those other things were starting to make their way towards it.
And then as we're walking back to where we get

(56:39):
to where the homestead was, where we actually saw what
we thought was a portal the last time you were out. Yes, well,
when we walked by there, it all looked normal, no glowing,
nothing else. When we were walking back to get back
to camp, it was glowing again.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
It was And I have a photo of it that
if I had any kind of forethought I would have
preloaded for the show. But yeah, I'll show it on
future shows. It is a tree line and you can
see it because my camera automatically goes to night mode,
where it takes all of the ambient light and gives
you as good a photo as possible. And Ullerson's wife

(57:19):
actually was the one who was taking photos using night
the night shot, and I started doing it as well,
because she's gotten some pretty crazy photos just doing that.
And when we were looking through the trees, and I
was thinking, you know, the creek isn't there. It's not
like I'm looking, you know, over the creek bed onto
the other side where that light shining onto the trees,

(57:41):
it's going to make the far creek look brighter, you know,
than the foreground, But the creek doesn't. The creek's not there.
The creek's farther back, it's not along the road in
that section. So I could not, for the life and
me figure out, like logically what was making that section glow.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
And what's funny is is okay? And those pictures it's
a perfect rectangle like a door, yeah, and what's going
on the inside is swirling and changing with every picture.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Just like Okay, So the portal that we saw back
in November, right, it's in that same group of trees.
That's what I was seeing. And it looks, y'all, it
looked just like a perfect look like Christmas lights, like
a perfect archway, you know.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
And then as we're getting up there closer we have
something else that bluff charges us on that side. That's
right in that that's a perfect kibox.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Let me tell you I jumped from one side of
the road to the other hill because it was quiet.
It was quiet, quiet, and we're standing there and you know,
your wife and your friend are ahead of me, and
you and Nick are behind me, and I'm standing closest
to the side of the road that the trees like
the cemetery, and you know, all this stuff was going on.

(59:00):
And let me tell you, whatever jumped up and ran
was not small. It was big. And that's what I mean.
The movement startled me, of course because it was so quiet,
but knowing also that was huge, and it kind of grunted,
I want to say, when it jumped up, I mean
there was it was more than just rustling. It was like.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I had my gun
pointed on a heartbeat, and but it And that's also
whenever he ended up getting a heat signature in the woods,
it was kind of, I guess, interfering with the cold spots,

(59:41):
the cold ones. They were coming on to us from
that side as well, so they were it was you
definitely had the feeling that you were prey.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Yeah, so just not to interrupt, but so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
What are your thoughts on why the thermal doesn't work and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
How it interferes with it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Do you think because like, okay, so like a lot
of people go with the dog Man or bigfoots or
whatever as flesh and blood, but if it was in fact,
then it wouldn't interfere with that kind of technology, you
know what I mean? So like, yeah, so, well, okay,

(01:00:30):
the low key thing you know, Okay, I got you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
I mean you're going to have what they call it
glimmer m okay, so it's going to affect it's basically
going to be almost like its own EMP it's on
electromagnetic field even, right, which is probably the reason why

(01:00:53):
whenever you're out there doing these things and you're carrying
an AMF reader as skyrockets, Well, th thing is is
if you go to an area that has a high
EMF field and you try to take a picture of it,
it's fuzzy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
No, I'll go with that, especially with the new digital cameras.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, that makes that's logically sound. I'll put it that way,
and I dig it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:23):
Well, I mean 've dealt with military equipment and everything else.
And it's kind of the same thing anytime you're dealing
with the high m F field. Whenever you're going to
the areas that had the the high explosions that had EMFs,
then you knew that your electronic equipment wasn't going.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
To work right right, Yeah, I dig.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
It's just kind of one of those things. Looks like
JoJo's asking about Bigfoot. No, I have not seen any Bigfoot.
Everything the bug pug wedges, yes, if that's what you
want to call them. I didn't know what the hell
to call them back then, but.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, little people, puck wedgies, I mean probably puck wedgies
are more northeast. I think, like at least the Ponka
tribe up northern Oklahoma. When I was investigating on their land,
they called them just the little people.

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I could go with that. I mean, honestly, they
look like ewalks crossed over with the movie from The
Things Critters. Yeah, yeah, that's what they look like. They
look like critters the size of ewalks, about three and
a half four foot tall.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
See. And that's the description of that South African water
spirit that I stumbled across in a video the other
day and it's like, I forget the name of it.
I want to say it starts with the tea, but
I'd never heard of this thing before, but it sounded
just like your description, And I'm like, it's fascinating to
me that these creatures are popping up just all over
the world, Like there are similar descriptions of people, you know,

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traditional people that don't have contact, but they're seeing the
same thing. Yeah, so there's got to be something to it,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Well, that's what we talk about a lot, is whenever
connection through separation of land and especially separation of time.
So like you've got thousands of years of people spot
in these critters, creatures or whatever, you know, crypt is,
whatever you want to call them. You know, if you

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got them, you know, especially back in the gap before
there was communication between the continents, then you know, if
you're seeing, if you're seeing the same sightings and people
aren't phoning home to other people about it, then you

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know you obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
He stumbled onto something there, you know what I mean. Like,
it's not it's not just.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
With with the Internet and stuff like that, you know,
and telecommunications, you have instantaneous information between individuals. But back then,
unless you wanted to take like a two month voyage,
you know, on a sailboat. You know what I mean,

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there's two months, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
Yeah. So Jojo was asking about lay lines.

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure there's several of them
through the area, uh kind of a crossing area.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
But what what what is your opinion of lines? I mean,
do you buy into the fact or of lay lines?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I mean, uh, energy sources and that energy energy sources, yes, yeah,
and that like energy is like whether they're fae or
cryptid or whatever, psychic energies even are drawn to the
lay lines or enhanced at a lay line.

Speaker 6 (01:05:26):
I would definitely say most likely. Yeah. I mean I've
been to several spots that were supposed to be considered
lay line areas, and I'd get the same static electricity
field that I do down in those woods.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Okay, So Wedge asked, I wonder what could be filmed
if a drone was flown into that swirl that we
were talking about earlier with the portal the drone malfunctions.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
That's what I was going to think, just off.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Trying I've actually tried using it whenever we were looking
for the cemetery and up by the house. The drone
works fine, you get good picture. Everything else. The controls
work great, all that stuff. I take it down there,
the video static. The drone, it has a mind of

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its own, is going all over the place, is extremely
difficult to control. And there's no wind, so tell me
one of this thing is trying to go off to
the side.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Well, if you're talking to less your magnetic frequencies and
that will also blend in with our frequencies. So you know,
like when you go into that side of the scientific
or the physiological method about it, right then, yeah, like

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your normal stuff, like you're saying about the thermal normal
stuff's not going well. Normal, but technology is not going
to work the same, you know within that that that
realm or that field, especially if there's interference, is not
normal to what we expect for regular technology. You know

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what I mean exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
I mean it's kind of like, Okay, A fun trick
to do around those RC planes and the drones and
everything else is if you have big c B radio
on the high powered c B radios and you key
that down, you're going to see all these planes and
drones fall out of the sky.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
M hm.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
Really, yes, it's very fun.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
The same as back in the gap when.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
We used to play when I was a teenager, we
used to play with CV radios and you take.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Those big.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Amplified antennas and you can literally watch it back back
before you know, cable and satellite and stuff. But if
you put it on your TV on channel three, you
know what I mean, you could literally hear yourself over.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Yeah, you can hear yourself the channel. Yeah, especially.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
I was on that board apparent.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Well, yeah, we we had our own We had our own.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
TV station until the FCC started roaming around the neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (01:08:40):
Yeah, they get a little upset about that. Yeah, it
looks like JoJo's asking about UFO activity. Yes, I honestly
can't say yes or no on that one. There's an
airport that's ten fifteen miles from here. There's a couple
of small airports as well as far as private airports

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that are close by, so you have lights in the
sky all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
But they're pretty clearly planes that I've witnessed.

Speaker 6 (01:09:13):
Yeah, most everything I've seen has been planes and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
I mean, you can clearly tell it's an airplane, it's
not something. Yeah, unidentifiable exactly, so witnessed.

Speaker 8 (01:09:25):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:09:27):
I can't say anything that I would try to claim
was a UFO.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
I mean that's fair, that's fair. There's enough going on
you don't need UFOs on top of it. You know
you're dodging dog mans. You don't want to worry about alien.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah, yeah, dodging yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
We got gnomes and dog man's. We don't need aliens.
Calm down.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
So Wedge asks if you had any ghost or poultergeist
activity on the property.

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
Yes, I know the answer of it, lots of it.
Let's see, was hog hunting one night, setting up on
top of our shop. So I was laid out up
on top of the shop. I had thermal for spotting with,
I had night vision on my rifle. At this point

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in time, there was a man hunt for a person
the he had shot a police officer. There was a
ten thousand dollars bounty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
On him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Behind the roof too, So it was kind of one
of those.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
Things of like, I don't know, if I see him
walking a by, I'll make a twin, you know, quick
ten grand. It maybe the first time I've done something
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
So let's go for.

Speaker 6 (01:10:56):
And I'm up there, and of course the the horse
just go off at something. Something's got them stirred up.
So maybe the pigs are walking around over there. So
I pull the thermal up and I'll look out through there.
I see a deer. Well, the deer's sitting here huffing
at something. So I keep looking and well, here's a
person walking by, and I'm like, okay, not there, cannot

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see them through the night vision. Pull the thermal back up.
Still there walking by. All right, this don't make sense.
So I'm sitting here just kind of going back and
forth between the two trying to figure out what's going on.
Why am I not able to see them through the
night vision, but I can see it through the thermal.
And about that time, I give up on the night vision.
I'm just gonna walk through the thermal. And I'm like, well,

(01:11:45):
either way, it's gonna be funny. He's about to walk
into the barbar fence, walks right through it like it's
not even there, walks about another thirty feet, and then
just fades out. That time, I just packing up stuff.
I've seen this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
I'm going to bed yep.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
Now that's my line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I've seen this horror movie.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
I'm so the whole time, I'm sitting here crawling down
the ladder like it's going to be right behind me.
It's going to be right behind me. I'm going to
turn around, it's gonna be right there. Luckily I turn around,
it's not there, and I just go in.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
The house.

Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
Wife goes, well, did you see anything? Nope, not damn thing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
I don't even speak it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
Yeah, give it energy, don't give it energy. I mean,
we had a slow feeder for the horses that was
hung up out there, which was basically like a thirty
five gallon barrel that had a grate with a weight
on top of it that would pushed the hay down
in there. And it's hanging up on a chain to
where it should be right about the right height for them,
so you know, if the wind catches it, it's going

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to sit here and blow and move like that. She
came in and hollered at me one night when she
went out to feed. And I go out there and
I look, it's not Wendy one of the nice where
there's no win and here's this barrel just sitting here
swinging back and forth. Stops start swinging in another direction.

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The horses are all just sitting here staring at it like, oh,
I ain't going there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
I ain't that hungry.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Yeah, so a lot of paranormal activity has definitely happened
in the area. In fact, the room I'm setting in,
we had somebody say that a Ouiji board was used
and not used correctly, which I wouldn't doubt it. My

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brother was an idiot. I've been in here on a
zoom meeting with work and I had it at that time. Yeah.
So you can see the saddles there. You can see
the hat setting on top of the saddles. Well, the

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camera was able to point it in this general direction.
The hat started moving on the zoom meeting, and of
course my boss and his boss were on the zoom
meeting and they're like, is the ac.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Or something blowing?

Speaker 6 (01:14:21):
No, well, why is that hat moving? I turn around, look, Frank,
knock it off. You're scaring the muggels. So it's just
kind of things like that. I mean, in the house,
it's a constant I mean constant, not quite daily, but weekly.

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Something happens and you just ignore it. I mean the
worst I hate it whenever you're in the shower and
they start messing with you in there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
That is like leave me alone in the shower.

Speaker 6 (01:14:58):
Yeah, because whenever you're in the shower and all of
a sudden, it looks like a kid's face presses up
against the shower curtain. I'm sorry, but I punch it.
I get out of the tower, and it actually feels
like you hit something whenever you punch it. And then
you're looking back there and you're like, well, there's nothing there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Shit, okay, unless you're the ghost chick from Ghostbusters.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Stay out on my shower.

Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
But yeah, and it's it's kind of weird like that.
And then the nights, I'd be working nights, so I
wouldn't be home. My wife would not sleep upstairs. She'd
sleep downstairs on the couch because stuff would mess with her.
I mean you, you will get stuff to sit on
the bed, uh, sleep paralysis and stuff like that. And if, yeah,

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if you try to sleep in the bedroom alone, something's
going to fuck with you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
I lived in a house where something would come into
the room nightly, nightly and sit on the bed like
you could feel it pressed down right next to me.
It would it creeps you out, Like I don't feel threatened.
I just I'm not okay with something I can't see creeping,
like creeping on me while I'm trying to sleep. Just

(01:16:17):
I know you're staring at me, your creepy son of
a bitch, get off my back.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
By Mickey g. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
That that that one's that one gets me every freaking
time it's happened to me. Probably a little bit more
than one handful of times. I could probably less than
ten fingers, but I can count them on more than
one hand. But yeah, that those are I don't I
don't know, they're.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
They're very surreal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
I'll put it that because you know, you know, it's
not like a sleep paralysis thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
You're not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
You're not having a nightmare.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Yeah, you like you're like, dude, what and there's nothing there,
but you feel the depression and whenever it leaves, you
feel it right back up like those those. Yeah, I'm good.
I am good.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
So last question of the night, because I know Ullerson's
got a jet. He still has he still has work
to do, y'all. He ain't even done with work. He
just took a break to talk to us. Jojo asks
if you've had any kind of mind speak or psychic
communication with she says Clifford. I'm going to open that

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up to anything on that property.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Good question.

Speaker 6 (01:17:48):
I can't say if it's mind speak or just intuition.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (01:17:53):
So the skeptics side, I mean, would say it's just intuition,
you know, gut feeling, anything along those lines. But as
far as it's just like the other night of okay,
something's warning us to get the hell back, something's telling
us to go. You know, I can't say that something

(01:18:16):
said that to me. That's just what popped into my
head as far as that goes, So it could be
either one. I'm open to the idea that it's possible,
but I can't say that it has happened.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
So no, like no, like obvious auditory.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Where you're actually hearing it, like somebody talking in your Yeah, more.

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Of besides hearing disembodied voices. No.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Now, Now to follow up that question, it so like
you got with like Bigfoot, you get like tree knocks
and stuff like that. Is there is there anything that
you tie into the dog Man with the Yeah, something.

Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
Like that, it's like dog Man or if it's the
fay or what, but the uh, the glass clinking or
metal clinking sound.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Yes, and I heard that. Yeah, so Text and I
heard that last not I didn't hear it. Well, I
didn't say the night this time. But Text and I
heard that back in November. He and I were sitting
around the campfire and back off to my right, not
completely behind me, at like my four o'clock. It slopes

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down into the creek and it sounded like bottles clinking together,
and it made me think of Warrior. Yeah, it reminded
me of that. It wasn't as rhythmic, but it was
definitely like like glass clinking together. Text thought is more metallic.

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It sounded class to me. Everybody is, you know, obviously
going to have a different interpretation.

Speaker 6 (01:20:07):
But yeah, and I'll hear that pretty often. I think
I actually got it on one of the videos, so
I'll have to go look and see if I do.
But I think one of the videos I was recording
one of the times I was hunting and you start
hearing that clinking and then things really start getting weird.

(01:20:28):
In fact, I think that was the time I heard
those clinkings ended up getting a pig, shooting the pig.
The pig made it to the fence line and fell,
and as I'm walking over to get it. I just
see him arm reach out from under the fence, grab
it and pull it under the fence. I'm like, you
sort of at it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Anyways, making that easy for us.

Speaker 6 (01:20:53):
Yeah, so okay, I don't have to worry about that
one then, thank you. But yeah, you'll you'll hear the
clinking noises and stuff like that. I've also heard something
that sounds like a dumpster getting dragged on concrete.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Oh that would be out of place there.

Speaker 6 (01:21:14):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely would. And you know a lot
of the stuff, I would think it was just tied
to the gas wells and stuff. But the problem is
is the sounds aren't coming from where the gas bells are.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Well, let me that the gas well sounds are rhythmic.
You can time those.

Speaker 6 (01:21:31):
Yeah, you can time now, and these these are not
rhythmic or anything else. And I mean it's the I mean,
I almost equate the trash can dragging on the concrete
is like like something tearing them through time, tearing, tearing

(01:21:58):
through reaction.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Okay, like a portal opening.

Speaker 6 (01:22:03):
Or yeah, something along those lines.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Maybe division of like uh, division of dimension y.

Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
Yeah, like an energy dispersion or something along those lines.
I mean, because the trash can being dragged on the
concrete is the easiest way to explain it to people
that haven't been around explosives, sure, because otherwise it it

(01:22:35):
really sounds like very similar to what happens whenever you
have a slow charge go off on something primarily like
debt cord on a door, a metal door. Uh, you
know you have you have your main acoustic boom, but

(01:22:57):
there's also the vibar, cheering vibration, and it's more like that,
it's more like the sharing vibration of it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
And I will also say that you know you hear
sounds that are out of place. This is just a
general statement. You hear sounds that are out of place,
or even something that maybe you know the sound or
you can relate it to something like you do. But
your intuition and your instinct when you hear those sounds
like you feeling like it's energy displacement, even though it

(01:23:33):
sounds like something being right. I put a lot of
stock into your intuition. Whatever it's telling you it is
is probably what it is, even if it's a very
normal sound but out of place. Right, whatever your mind
thinks that is initially, I think is probably what it

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is a lot of the time. Not every time for sure,
but a lot of the time, Like your intuition's there
for a reason, and I think more people should be
following intuition in your gut feelings, and especially in places
like this where there's so much activity and there's so
much energy and just a lot of everything, your initial
gut reaction and instinct telling you this is what you're hearing,

(01:24:18):
but this is what you're associating it with in your mind,
even though it might not make sense. There's a lot
to be said for.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
That, Yeah, because your mind is going to go to
the most familiar thing that you can associate with.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Well, he's hearing what I'm saying is like you know,
he's saying, I think it's energy displacement. It probably is
energy displacement, even though it sounds like you know, slow
detonation or something being drug across concrete concrete, But in
his mind, he's like, energy displacement.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
That's what it's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
That's what he's thinking. That's probably what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
Yeah, Or I mean, another good one would be like
the depth charges m that just underwater muffled vibration of
an explosion. That would be another good way to describe
the sound, but it's definitely uh. And then the mimics,

(01:25:18):
the mimicking noises, you'll get a lot of those. Most
of the time. It's something mimicking the owl.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Yeah, you're not thinking owl, You're thinking danger.

Speaker 6 (01:25:29):
Right, You're not thinking yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, the
wife is down at what was my grandmother's house, and
so my mother in law's living there now, and my
wife was down there with her and some friends and
they were all sitting in the living room down there
talking and my wife sends me a text because we

(01:25:50):
just heard an owl outside, so they heard this thing inside.
She said, it sounds like it's a six foot owl
setting on the fence out here. Well that's not right, Okay.
I grabbed my rifle and went down there check and
sure enough, I see something. This was shortly after Texas

(01:26:11):
encounter with the Crawler, and I see something gray. Shoot
through where the garage is and down around to where
a house that we were building is at. Okay, we're
gonna play this game, all right. So here I am
walking around and I have a flashlight on the rifle
and so that's what I'm using. And it's ready to

(01:26:34):
go and I go around there, and I go up
towards the house, and I see it shoot off down
towards the woodline and then noise. So here's this thing
that's trying to lead me down into the woods. Make
me follow it?

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Sure, all right?

Speaker 6 (01:26:55):
So I get to the edge of the hill where
I can see down towards the trees, and sure enough,
here it is. It sticks its head out from a
round the tree. I'm guessing it did not expect me
to pull the trigger as fast as I did, because
I hid it square in between the eyes. And we're
talking about I shot it with a forty four mac
out of a carbing that will drop a I'll drop

(01:27:19):
a grizzly bear, I mean, plain simple, and that particular
gun will drop a grizzly bear. This thing rolled backwards
a couple of feet and got up and took off.
So it's kind of one of those like, all right,
well that didn't kill it. Now I was pissed off, awesome,

(01:27:42):
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Yeah, only it's only a flesh wound.

Speaker 6 (01:27:50):
Oh, I just pissed something off, all right, And you know,
I go back in and tell my wife that one,
and now it's time to go. Yeah, but I believe
it's just things like that. And then you know, whenever,

(01:28:13):
that same weekend, whenever, Ranger and Texas nephew were with us,
and we did the same walk that we did at night,
but it was during the day and we walked back
and we're hearing crows go off. Well, crows are the
snitches of the forest. If the crows are going off,
something's not right. I mean, if you hear crows going off,

(01:28:34):
there's something there that they don't like. And as we're
walking back, we hear this crow, I mean Ranger. Ranger
describes it as berry white crow. I mean, this thing
sounded like it was three hundred and fifty pounds, just

(01:28:55):
deep ruck voice that carried forever, like it was three
times louder than the other crows. What the heck was that?
You know, all three of us are looking at one
another like that ain't normal.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
You should hear Ranger like re enacted. It's hilarious. Oh yeah,
it's scary at the time, but he's like, here this cock.
And then you hear call, yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
We're all looking over at this direction as we're walking back,
you know, we're looking through those trees. We see something
start playing peekaboo around one of the trees, right, I
look at them. Huh, let's go find out, you know
the thing what you're not supposed to do. Cool something,

(01:29:41):
you know, freaky playing pickaboo around the trees. And as
we're going in there, Texas nephew goes, this is the
part of the horror movie where people get hurt, like, hey,
you'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (01:29:51):
You're fine.

Speaker 6 (01:29:55):
We're walking in there and the temperatures change, you'll hit
old spots and you'll see fog. And so we get
back in there and of course we're not seeing that
thing playing peekapoo anymore, and so we kind of turn around.
We're heading back. As we're walking back, we'd you see

(01:30:15):
a foggish figure walking along the tree outside of the
trees next to us. Yeah, okay, cool. We head on
back up to camp. We'll text you slip through something interesting.
But yeah, it never a dull moment.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Okay, Well, Ullerson, I know that you've got to jet
and we've been on for right at an hour and
a half, and there's still so much to tell about
the property and all the things that have had happened there.
If you're up to it in the future, I'd love
to have you on again. We can just continue the.

Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
Story'd be glad to do it part two. Yeah, we
will have Sure there will be more stories.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
I'm sure there will be.

Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
I mean we didn't even get into the rogue ones either.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
Yeah, and we didn't get into like like into like
you finding all the stuff at the barn that night
this again.

Speaker 6 (01:31:19):
Yeah, yeah, so we didn't get into a lot of
the stuff. I mean, there's We've had our share of rogues,
We've had our share of other terrifying events, so there's
plenty more to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Thank you. Okay, Well, like I said, I'll schedule you
here in a few weeks and we can just continue
on with part two. And thank you so much for
taking time out of your night to visit with us
and share your stories.

Speaker 6 (01:31:50):
Oh yeah, definitely a great reprieve from doing payroll.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
I don't doubt everybody who joined us. Thank you so much, Breezy.
You got any closing statements?

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
No, I've found the whole thing, uh, wildly interesting and
I can't wait to hear more because I was I'm
literally I'll refrain from my normal speak, but I'm new
to it, so I dug it. I thought it was

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very fascinating, and I'm curious to know a lot more
because it sounds like there's it does sound like if
there's not even a part too, there might be a
part three or four.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Yeah, I mean the sounds like there's so much more.

Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
I could write several books if I was a better writer.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Yeah, I can help you with that, so but yeah, definitely.

Speaker 6 (01:33:04):
Uh, there's been some funny interactions, there's been some terrifying ones,
so yeah, definitely have enough material for plenty of books.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Yeah. Jojo commented that you could easily make a documentary
that would actually be pretty cool. I should talk to
Chris about that. I should talk to Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
We can get Chris and Woody out there, so if you're.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Interested in having a documentary made, we can probably arrange things.

Speaker 6 (01:33:36):
I've started trying to at least were go pros, one
of them going out in the woods and stuff, or
carrying carrying at least the video camera. But yeah, at
least to try to capture some of it as far
as on the video. But I mean, as I said,

(01:33:57):
I've taken pictures of what I can and everything, and
it never fails. I mean, anything I've ever tried to
do as first with the digital has been blurry.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Sure with all the activity, I'm not surprised with it,
but I mean, we could set you up and there's
a whole documentary process. We can get your story, we
can get stills, we can use some of the footage
that you would have or that other people investigating would have,
and anyway, that's a whole thing. So trying to let
you go, not keep the conversation going.

Speaker 6 (01:34:28):
Tonight's sounds good.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Sop for coming on. I really really appreciate it, and
everybody in chat has loved this so far, so they're
definitely looking forward to that part too.

Speaker 6 (01:34:41):
Sounds good, all.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Right, So from me and Breezy and mister Uhlerson, thanks
for tuning in tonight, y'all, and we will catch you
on the flip side.

Speaker 8 (01:34:58):
This is the future.

Speaker 9 (01:35:13):
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(01:35:34):
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