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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's us again. Remember us. We've been gone for like
two weeks. Joe, Joe's been on vacation. Yeah, yeah, how
did that go? By the way, I haven't had a
chance to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
The vacation was fun. The aftermath was horrific.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Did you go to Mexico or something like? What?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, well, let's just before we even got to the destination,
Jen ran the rental jeep into a concrete barrier. Before
you see it, it was literally completely empty parking lot,

(00:49):
only one light Paul with a barrier around it.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
No, I mean Jason, we were.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Like stop, stop, stop, stop, lam just straight straight in.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah. So yeah, that's how it started.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
But yeah, so and then uh, actually the vacation went smooth.
Everybody was having fun, got uh golf carts, rode around
the island and everything. And then got back and I
had my car in the shop because remember my son

(01:28):
broke all the rims and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, and I got back and he was like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's gonna be about twenty seven hundred dollars. I was like, well,
I finally known that I wouldn't have spent three hundred
dollars a night on the crab.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, you would have the crab, right, eat the crab.
They always eat.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
The crab, all right, Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Can eat my weight and crab. I will eat crab
until I get sick, and then I'll eat more cramp.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I literally did that. Well have you been I haven't
talked to you in a while.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, I'm just kind of chilling, hanging out. Brought us
a new co host, ghost. Let me tell you. That's like,
I love this thing. I love him or her whatever,
all shiny mirror ball ghost noise. Isn't that cute stuff?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Like?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's trickling into the stores and I'm going nuts over here.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's so blind. I'm so blind.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
It looks like the the skeleton from the Elephant.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Man. I have to see it.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Like here, I'll bring him up closer, unwilled. He's heavy too.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's like, oh, okay, okay, he's okay.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's like a disco ball.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
He's reflecting stuff in your in your four of you.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's what it is. So anyway, yeah, I'm going nuts
with the Halloween decor out in the stores as I
do every year. Every year. I'm gonna have to start
giving stuff away which speaking of. So, I saw this
cool thing that I tried, and I think I might

(03:21):
give these away if our regulars in the chat are interested.
I made paintings. They're halloween just just to kill some time. Picasso,
I am not, but they're fun Halloween decorations. So I
think I might be given those away, and then my
future endeavors probably as well. I got to clear out

(03:43):
some Halloween stuff and you were good to benefit from it,
my friends.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
And we're not just doing it to get your address either.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh yeah, well I can you know, I can always
mail it from my.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Office, not your address, their.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Address, oh their address.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
People work.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I'm not not have to freak anyone out. I've been
stocked in my life. I'm not looking to stalk anybody.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Okay, dang it. I always wanted to be stocked.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, no, no, it's not. It's not a good time.
You think it would be.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm not a chick, so I think it would be
maybe like.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Bit more.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, there's a chick. There's a chick stock. I mean,
I'm all right.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Place Psycho Roulette. Yeah, so tonight Ullerson does come back
to talk about dog Man Ranch. Yeah, I know, Jodjo's excited,
like she's super excited, and Text is gonna have River

(05:00):
on his show, Like I think it's Monday or Tuesday,
and JoJo's going to be co hosting with him. He
it's Tuesday, one of the night Owl shows is going
to have him on there and help you talking all
Aboriginal stories, which will be super noll everything about Australia.
So that's going to be super cool for anybody who
wants to tune in for that Tuesday night at ten.

(05:23):
But tonight, like I said, we've got Ullerson here to
talk about dog Man Ranch and all the crazy stuff
going on out there. So let's bring him up so
we can grill him. What's up, Allerson?

Speaker 5 (05:39):
How's it going great?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
How are you.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Tired?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
So for those of you who Ullerson, I don't think
I've ever spoken to you when you were not working.
Never have I gotten a text message from you. Hey,
I was kicking back this afternoon. I was going that
I was working here and I saw that.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
Yeah now now. And in fact, there was even one
of the ones where I was visiting one of my
officers out a site and I sent you a message going, yeah,
we just saw somebody walk by. Never not officers just
sitting here staring at me, big white eyes, like, uh
uh hold on, won't man.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Right, because you guys, you you work security for construction sites,
right or just general security.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Anything and everything. Okay, so logistics side, data centers, construction sites, everything.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
So you're usually there at night when nobody else is around.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
I do have officers there at night when nobody else
is around, so I'm typically in the office, I.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Mean the Royal you your company, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah, uh. There's a lot of my sites that are
just overnight, a lot of more hotels and stuff like that,
which those get interesting. I imagine we had had one
that he was checking the hotel and he stopped because

(07:24):
it's about three am in the morning, and there was
this little child outside in the hallway playing, and he
stops and he's looking at it, because of course he
actually knows about some of the stuff and has listened
to some of the shows and everything, and he's like,
I was about to run the other way. I thought
I ran into a black eyed kid, but the kid

(07:45):
just turned and looked at him and then went back
into the room.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Were the parents what were the parents? Hotel hallways?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
They're drunk there in the hallway for about five to
ten minutes.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
No, you'll put your kids in danger anyway. Yeah, I
imagine actually some crazy things.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll see some crazy stuff. In fact,
the night that I was there with that officer and
he was telling me that, you know, we're sitting here
the homeless people, Oh my goodness, those will give you
some good stories.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Oh really.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, they'll definitely some interesting characters.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
I know. Well, now I know what to look forward to.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Last night I completed my Level two certification for security
to go work Josh Company.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah yeah, Josh good.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, you're going to see some ship too, because you are.
He's got stories. I mean, Josh definitely has some stories
from his.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Oh yeah yeah. I mean even in my to days
whenever I was an officer and setting out there working posts.
One of the worst ones I worked at was a
basically a section eight apartment building. Yeah. We were in

(09:24):
contact with emergency services at least five times a day.
I went through two ballistic vests in two months. I
was stabbed in the back by a vagrant. So yeah, right,
oh yeah, I had kevlar. I did not draw my firearm.

(09:48):
I drew my baton and I worked some frustrations.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Out a little asp training in there.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yes, yes, a little bit of that. But yeah, that
site was quite interesting. You'd be sitting sitting out there
because you'd set in your car to watch. Unless you're
going on a tour, you were supposed to do do
tours with two people, but the company I was with
at the time never hired anybody that was reliable, so

(10:15):
you were generally doing it on your own, hence the
reason why I got stabbed in the back. But yeah,
sitting in there and you'd watch like, what in the
world is that on the roof, you know, you see
all kinds of weird stuff. You'd walked by these apartments
that you know were vacant and the lights would turn

(10:35):
on and it's like, well, I would go in and
check it, but there's a piece of plywood that screwed
to the over the door, so you know nobody's in
there in the door.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Like a crack head'll find a way.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yes, yeah, you would think that, but whenever you can
see in the room through the window and you can
see the light turning on and off in it, and
there's nobody there. Flipping the swim which yeah, okay, okay, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Mean job sites. I imagine construction sites specifically, right, because
that's what I do for a living too, right, not
to the security and but the building in So I
don't do residential right that I can only imagine if
you're doing residential multi unit right, multiple housing track in

(11:27):
the middle of the night with the skeleton frames, there's
no lighting, I promise you there's no lighting. If they
don't have cooper or any of the equipment on site,
there's no lighting. So just the weird noises, the scuttling
from whatever would already set a pretty eerie atmosphere I've worked.
One of my projects was like, I don't like one

(11:47):
hundred thousand square for distribution warehouse, and we had to
rehabit and it had been vacant for a long time.
It was haunted by the ghosts of ten thousand rats.
But uh, it was creepy at I mean creepy at night.
So I mean I can just imagine like the stuff

(12:09):
that you either do see your your mind thinks you
see or maybe both right, you see something and your
mind would exaggerate, perhaps a little bit of a purity,
like yeah, you freaked out about the situation.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the sites I was at
was out in the middle of nowhere, I mean absolutely nowhere,
in an off road park. And this was also shortly
after my first encounter with well, my first most recent

(12:44):
encounter with the dog men kind of thing. So here
I am in the middle of nature, a good five
miles from any town, with nothing around me, sitting out
on top of a plateau in the middle of the night.
And it was kind one of those things like you'd

(13:08):
sit here and you know something's watching you. You just
had that gut feeling something's watching you. So you get
to your flashlight out and you shine it around. You
got two eyes and you're like, all right, is this
a cayo or is this something else or what? And
I think I saw like three bobcats several other things,

(13:31):
you know, as far as that goes, But all of
it was You're normal.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
There are some things you don't want to run into.
It doesn't have to be paranormal, Like you don't necessarily
want to run into a po bobcat.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah, you know, a thirty pound cat.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
It's not like you're tabby at home.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
No, No, not really. So they're they're they're not fun
to play with. And I mean, I've been stalked in
the woods by mountain lions.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
So.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
I got lucky. I have to hear a twig step
behind me. Turn around, here's a mountain lion sneaking up
on me.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
That's scary.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Yeah, it didn't get I didn't stick around and see
if how much damage I did to it. But I
do know that getting shot in the face with the
four ten worked. That'll work, so.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, I imagine that would work on most things.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, you know, that was just one of those draw
fire and run like hell. But at that point in time,
I got out of the.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
So jojo starting it off strong. Yeah, it's right into
the dog Man Ranch. I wonder if dog Man Ranch
has ever had skin walkers. I think the land adjacent,
I don't think it was adjacent. I think it was
the land itself was once native land.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Correct, All the land around here was native now granted.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I mean technically everything wasn't.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, back then it was. I mean whenever my
great great grandfather, you know, was settling out here, growing
up out here, because like I said, he grew up
in one of the houses over here and was born
in one of the houses over here, and then he
ended up purchasing this the plot that we're on from

(15:16):
the cousins. But as he was growing up out here,
he was watching command she burying their dead over here.
So yeah, as far as skinwalkers, though, I don't know,
I can't say that I've ever seen anything. Now. The

(15:36):
first time I ran into The dog Man, I thought
that might be what it was. That's when I first
started looking up and researching, and then that was whenever
I was directed towards The dog Man. But it's kind

(15:57):
of one of those things. There's so much that's gone
on out here and everything else that a lot of
it is like, okay, am I imagining that stuff or not?
What you know, I got to be crazy, So it's
kind of one of those things. I embrace the insanity
and go with it.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
But as far okay, so my take on that would
be Jojo Probably not because skin walkers aren't you know,
ethereal they're people, They're flesh and blood.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
So I don't that place is not well developed. I mean,
it has definitely got remote areas, but it's developed enough.
There's no there's no native families in the area.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
No, there's not anymore. There's no reservations close by or
anything else.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
So for a skin walker, not that it's necessary. I mean,
they can shoot out on their own, but I mean
they get a lot of power from causing chaos and mischief.
And you know that I would say that they would
try to stick close to people who believe in that
is opposed to maybe some some white folks just tripping

(17:08):
through the woods. But I would expect that closer to
like a like a reservation. I would doesn't mean I'm right,
that doesn't mean that they don't shoot off on their own,
and to you know.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
I would expect from closer to the reservations as well,
or at least you know.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
She meant like passing through more so passing through.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Oh maybe could be. Yeah, I mean back in eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Who knows, Oh, back in the eighteen hundred, sure, sure, yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
I wouldn't allied back then when your great.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Great grandfather was watching all this go down.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
You know, there's no telling what my ancestors tell, That's true.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I wish they had a journal or something that you
could you could read, or do.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
They not that I know of? Okay, only the stories
that were kind of passed down. That's about it. And
I mean most of those stories were as far as
anything that goes into these levels, some of it might
have been construed to the fay, and then some of

(18:23):
it obviously was going into the more of the paranormal
as far as ghosts and spirits and so forth. Sure,
Oh okay, so Keith.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Says, I'm lost as to what the physical characteristics of
a crawler are. Kid described it if you saw.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
So the ones I've seen tot skin kind of a
There's been a couple of different ones. Some of them
have been light gray, almost white. Some of them have
been darker gray. It almost seems to change with whatever

(19:04):
environment they're in. It's kind of modeled or basically it's blotched.
Works really well as camouflage, like especially with moonlight or
anything like that. The one I dealt with whenever I

(19:24):
was younger was probably five maybe five and a half
foot tall, not really tall. I don't really remember much
about the ears. I don't remember if there was anything
other than just a hole. It was like the cartlitch
was gone. The same for on the nose area, it
was like the cartlett was gone. So it was just

(19:47):
vacant holes here. The it didn't look like it had
much as far as lips goes, but the mouth was
really wide with dark teeth. There wasn't any canines coming
down or anything like that like you would see even

(20:09):
like a human mouth. It did not match up. It
just sharp teeth all the way across. No hair that
I was able to see. The eyes I remember kind
of a reddish color as far as that one. But again,
this is one that was tapping on my window whenever
I was a kid, trying to lure me outside. The

(20:32):
most recent one whenever I was with texts. What I
saw scurry off through the wood, through the you know,
back into the woods. After turning around and seeing him
landing on the ground. It was probably about the same
size as me, darker gray, and it pretty much just

(20:57):
kind of stuck to the ground like a sprid or
crawl back through I mean, lack of a better word,
it scurried back through the trails and into the woods.
The as far as in social media or anything like that,
what I've seen that's been the closest is some of

(21:19):
the video games will have some of the zombie games.
Some of those in there will be very very similar
I'm trying to think of which ones it would be,
but just a quick Google search of a rake, it's
actually pretty close, very very similar. Unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
So you say, the one that was tapping on your
window head red eyes, would you say, were they red
tinted like the sclare was red like the white people read,
or they were self illuminating red.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
I wouldn't say they were self illuminating because it was
one of those things where it is the light that
would go show on it, so almost reflective red. Yeah,
but it wasn't really eyeshine. It was just you know
how if somebody puts their face up to your window,
you see how they are well enough with the light
that's shining through it. Yeah, that was red. And again

(22:22):
this was happening when I where I was about thirteen
years old, so it was that one. Yeah, like it
wanted to eat me.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I believe an impression on a thirteen year old.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Apparently I left the impression on it too.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
I got tired of it. Parents wouldn't listen to him,
and they're like, god, now you imagine anything you're imagine thinks.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
See, I don't understand that because I've told my children
all along, like I don't sugarcoat. I mean, obviously when
they're super small and don't scare that. But you know,
my kids are prepared for the real world. Let me
just put it that way. And I always tell them, like,
if you see something or your hear so, I'm not
going to tell you you're crazy. Like we're not going

(23:12):
to jump to crazy conclusions either. We're going to like
rule out rational explanations, but I'm not going to think
you're making it up. And I'm not going to think
you're crazy. Like, if you hear something or you see something,
if it freaks you out, please let me know because
we need to figure out what it is. So you're
you're not freaked out by it anymore.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know they still scared the look
shit on me.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
But you know, well, I think some of the things
that we encounter like feed off that fear.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Right, Oh yeah yeah. The only difference is is that, Okay,
my fight or flight's kind of broken to only have
one response, and usually it's I'm going to react in
the most violent way possible.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Wasn't expecting that, was it?

Speaker 5 (24:05):
No? It was not. It was definitely not expecting forty
rounds of five five six coming at it.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Not so easy target. Now, I don't think tapping on another
kid's window.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
From what I found down the hill, you know, I
don't expect it was tapping on much.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
So you know, maybe the gates down there.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Yeah, it might have got back down there and go
That one was mean what No, they're.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
So Jojo wonders if there might be a portal under
the house. Now, I think that there's some around your property.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
There are several portals around the property. Idiot of a
brother was playing with a h Luigi board in this room. Yeah,
so my idiot brother was playing with an Luigia board

(25:13):
in this room and obviously didn't close it out right.
So it is a revolving door in here. There used
to be where that chair is sitting behind me. There
were saddles with a hat sitting on there during a
teams meeting for work. The hat is sitting here and
doing this. So yeah, lots of interesting things as far

(25:33):
as that goes. Generally, we won't. You don't get a
very RESTful night's sleep if you're alone upstairs.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
So yeah, so Jojo said this, and yeah, that's you know,
to Ullerson's point, it's a revolving door because it wasn't
closed out properly.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Yeah, there's a revolving door. There's so many that go through.
I've gotten to the point where as long as they
don't bother me, I don't care. Whenever they start being
a pain, I tell them get the hell out.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I mean, you see, And that's the best thing to do,
you know, because when I had that thing invade my space, right,
the creepy like screechy thing that circled my house and
then came inside. And that's my response to anything like
if you're scaring my kids, if you're scaring my pets,
or if you're scaring me, like if you're making the

(26:34):
hair on my next you gotta go.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
You gotta go.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
You aren't, I mean, get out, Like this is my space,
you are not welcome here. This is my energy out.
So I think that's a great way to handle it. So, Kelly,
thank you so much. That is so kind. We all
appreciate that here.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
No, I mean even while I'm upsides, you know, walking
around in a data center basically you know, the EXISTENTI
stroll cubicles everywhere in a bullpen kind of thing, because
you hear a thump and you're like oh, okay, it's
time to go for a tour anyway, so let's go
check out. You go out there and its motion sens

(27:19):
or lights, so you're dark, and then you have a
light on. Huh okay, maybe the heater kicked on and turns,
you know, cause something to move. So you go over
there and you look and here's an office chair sitting
here twirling. Okay, cool, maybe there's a vent blowing on it.
Walk over there. Then you realize there's a balloon that's

(27:40):
on the same cubicle, tied up and it's not moving.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, that's it. I've never known. That must be one
hell of an HVAC system if that's causing your chair
to move, you.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
Know, I had to think for other reasons, I have
to try your The kicker was is I can need
to walk towards it. Whenever I got about ten foot
from it, it just stopped facing me. I'm like, sh it's.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
A lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
That's a lot Yeah, And you just get this cold
chill and then the next light comes on. Then the
next light comes on.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
You're like, I all worked in an office and I
would oftentimes be the last person to leave for the day,
and we shared. We shared a building with a fine
metal like refinery. Like their corporate offices were our corporate offices.
And this building had that motion activated hallway light, so

(28:38):
as you're walking, like the panels lit up ahead of
you and then they'd go out behind you. I hated that.
I hated that. Then you talk about creepy. That was
the creepiest place to be at night. I hated it.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, Oh, what's bad enough is the office
I'm at, which actually down there, you know Fort Worth area.
I'll get off the elevator and there'll be movement that
catches my attention off down at the other end of
the hallway, and it's like you just see a shadows

(29:10):
moving and I'm like, oh, okay, well you know somebody's
moving around that office. Well, one day it happened enough
times because it looked like the shadow would go into
a door or something like that down there. It happened
enough I decided to walk down there. There's no window
on that door. Now, there's nothing to be cast in
a shadow that would move, And of course you're sitting

(29:34):
in there. If you're there late, one of the latest
people and it's quiet and everything, you'll start hearing footsteps
down the hallway and everything else. You go, look out,
there ain't nobody there. Okay, handles jiggle. You know.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
The last plan I worked at, like where my desk was.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
In the ship facility, there's like a rack so it's
all open, and then there's a hallway that comes to
the doors that go into.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
The other logistics department. And it was like one of.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Those industrial racks, you know, the orange ones with the.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
The grating, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
And it held it held like shipping boxes, like empty
or not empty, but folded shipping boxes. So you have
like a two foot you know space and only about
six to eight inches of boxes. And you'd watch literally
like someone coming down the hall you know, go right

(30:47):
to it and hit the edge of the rack and
then never come out.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah. I'd be just sitting.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
There like, oh hey what you know, like, oh someone's late,
and then they never come out the other side.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Never mind, Facebook, here I come.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Well, do we want to talk about the last time
you were out?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
We can't. Hey, let's let's hit this one last question
about the house. So Jojo asks if you had anybody
come out and properly cleanse your house and surrounding the house.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Obviously came out here, ran away screaming.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
There you go, Jojo. That was that was an attempt
It was an attempted cleansing didn't work out.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, no, it's just like the first time we had
a bigfoot researcher that came out to take a look around.
They ran away screaming wow.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
So of course that wasn't us, by the way.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
No, that was not y'all. This was before y'all. This
was whenever I gave up on trying to get people
come checking anything out, at least until I met Text.
But yeah, no, he came out. He wanted to kind
of see a few of the things around, like one
of them that we always called the first one that
I went into that essentially was probably a portal of

(32:20):
sorts that I did go into. He wanted to go
check that out, which we did. We definitely had some
interesting events happened whenever we did that, because it was
me a friend of mine who happened to be a

(32:40):
Army airborn, so he and I were both armed. The
other person didn't really like firearms, so he was unarmed.
He was regretting that we went down there, and of
course you know, I'm sitting here like you might want
to start kind of getting back towards the creek here

(33:01):
and we get up into the open. Well, why, I'm like,
look in those bushes. He did, and he I wouldn't
be suppressed. He didn't poop himself.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Oh really that that? Yeah, that's like visceral of a reaction.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah, he just about fainted and he's started to take
off running. I grabbed him and told him, do not run.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Why run? Yeah, I've been terrified and I've had to
not like trust me, I wanted to run.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Well, the problem is I told him and said, you
were about to run the wrong direction. You need to
go this other way. He goes, well, why am I
running the wrong direction? Because there's another one fifty yards
that way. You were about to run right smack into one.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Well that sucks.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, there were three of them around us, so definitely
whenever he couldn't leave fast enough.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Did you ever hear from him again? No? Mm hmm.
Do they have a show where they talked about it
at all? No, because some people, some people will run
away and they make it sound like they didn't.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
No, he does not have a show. My understanding, he
doesn't even go out in the field anymore.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well, getting spooked will do that to some people here. Well,
I mean I get I get the urge, totally understand
the urge. When that thing bluff charged me in the
dark on the side of a mountain, like I wanted
to turn around and run too, but I also didn't

(34:49):
want whatever that was halland we're in down the mountain
to chase me down And.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Yeah, no, you don't do the prayer drive. I mean,
I've had one hundred plus pounds rott wallers charge me
and I don't turn and run. I usually run at
them and really stand. Yeah yeah, make yourself sound meaner

(35:18):
and bigger, and they usually decid turn around. But remote viewed.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Huh yeah, So Jojo wants to know if Olderson would
consider having the property remote viewed by someone professional like
Jessica Jones.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
A k a.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
The Cryptid Hunters. She do a very detailed analysis of
dog Man Ranch.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Wouldn't bother me, Okay, I've heard obviously, I've heard texts
and y'all speak of them. If he respects her and
trusts her, then yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, text knows her. I think the whole gang that
like I don't know everybody like such a hermit, but
I know Text does know her and likes so very much.
So I think that, I mean, if you were interested,
if you were interested in it, it would be an
interesting revenue to explore.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah, it could be. It definitely could be. So there's
there's no telling what what would be found out. Yeah. Again,
even so on some of this other stuff that's happened,
it's kind of like, really, okay, let's see what's going
on with that. However, the remote remote viewing part.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
It's hard to and I'm not putting anybody down because
I do believe people have abilities, but it's hardline a
remote view, you know, it's hard to improve. And so
that's why I always consider what people tell me. I mean,
you keep an open mind, always consider what people tell you.

(36:57):
But it's hard. That's a hard pill to swallow, be
it's hard to prove one way or the other.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Most of the time, I would believe in it because
I've it's been one of those things where you know,
I can remember whenever I was younger, it's like, oh okay,
you know, and I would have somebody try to quiz

(37:24):
me over stuff on it because it's like, well, yeah,
you're sitting in this room there and that, because I
always had a gift of being able to find stuff
and knowing where something's at. I mean, even after the
age of GPS as my mother would still call me
completely freaking lost in the middle of nowhere, going how

(37:47):
do I get home?

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (37:48):
You can take this road, this road, this road in
this room. Well, how do you know where I was at?
I don't know. I just did. She would and she
would get home, including my brother would do the same thing.
And or if somebody had lost something like I can't
find anything, go look here. Oh it's right here. And

(38:11):
I don't know how I was able to do stuff
like that. I thought it was just kind of a gift.
It also typically works with finding animals and other things
that shouldn't be around. So that's generally the reason why
I was able to. You know, the last time you

(38:31):
were out here, I'm like, hey, take a look right there.
What is that?

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, next time I lose something, I'm calling you, Clersen,
I can't find I can't find that thing again. You
know where am I to put it down at? Because
I don't.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, go down the hallway, the second door on the
left look in there on the first shelf we go.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
It's gonna be like five minutes after for the show.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
They're on your head.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
For an hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm walking around with the set on my head and
a set on my face. But no, that's an that's
a good gift. That's a good gift. Like I said,
I don't discount people's abilities. I'm not trying to discount it.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Again, I wouldn't say that it would be remote viewing
or anything like that. Like I'm just there's a a
knack for it. Kind of one of those things that
obviously whenever I can tell something's there that shouldn't be there.
It's helped me a lot in my career. Actually, you know,

(39:53):
like somebody's going to try to go through that and
sure enough they do. Yeah, and so yeah, there you go.
I would definitely entertain the idea of having it done,
but I would like for a text to be present

(40:14):
on that one.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, let text facilitate it, for sure.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Yeah, let him do that.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
So let's jump in to the last time I was there,
which was a very interesting evening.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Oh that was very fun. It was I didn't know
I could walk that far backwards.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
And you got me. I jumped. I jumped when whatever
that was, like something in the brush right next to be,
popped up and took off and it was big road
to the other Because I wasn't armed. It's one of
the few times that I've gone out without being armed.
I didn't even think of when I left. But luckily

(41:02):
Olerson and his lovely wife and their friend were armed
as well as.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Nick.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Nick keep on to call him Keith. He looks like
my friend Keith from high school.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, so you know, obviously we had the six of us. Yeah,
we're just going down the road and this area. My
wife loves it down there. Mm hmmm, yes, oh yeah,

(41:37):
in that flat area. Yeah, really, yeah, she loves that area.
Doesn't really give her if so decide with the gas
will doesn't bother her. The other side, No, the.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Side closest to the homestead.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Yeah, okay, yeah, that side, No, she don't like it.
That's a side that we went into and we thought
we were only in there for thirty forty minutes, and
come find out we were in there for about four hours.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
So let me lay this out for people so they
understand what we're talking about. So obviously this is a
pretty vast property. It's two thousand acres correct, yeah, right
around we're somewhere in there. So this this little tiny
chunk of that two thousand acres that we we typically
camp in and investigate around, is bordered by a creek.

(42:34):
It's got pasture land on the other side from the creek.
There's there's are those oil or natural gas wells, natural
gas its somethings sound like naturally So there's there. They're around,
so you hear those pumping and spitting. But there's an
area that you have to go through. Book shows. Can

(42:58):
I have a stroke over there with us twelve year
old mind? So there's this area you have to travel through,
and it is creepy to me. I mean it is all.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Looks like something right out of a horror movie.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
It does, I mean it is. It's flood It's a
floodplain for sure. It is flat as a pancake. There
are these gnarled old black trees that surround you on
both sides as you're driving in. And it's not that far, right,
it's not that far to travel through that area now,

(43:33):
I mean it's maybe fifty yards total if you're on the.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Road, if you're on the roads about one hundred yards is.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
It one hundred It didn't seem that like, it doesn't
seem that far, but it is. It is absolutely creepy
in the daylight, and it is directly adjacent to the
homestead that we also go and investigate. It's very interesting
back in there. So that's that's what it is. And

(44:00):
all of that is what like a quarter mile from
the campsite.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Yeah, even looks like Randy's asking if he's been there, Yes,
you have?

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Have you have you? Randy? Yes, you drove right through
it getting to camp Yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
It was one of those. Yeah. And the best we
can tell is right next to where that gas wells
where that grave site was. I've at least found the
evidence that that's probably where the grave sites were, because
there's a mound there where it looks like whenever they

(44:47):
cleared the land for the gas well, they kind of
covered it up, and the previous owner for that area
that's something he would do. So so so I'm doing
a very poor job of laying it.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Out because it's hard to describe this one little chunk
that we're investigating when you've got.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
So the patch of woods that y'all are typically in
is probably about fifty acres, okay, as far as just
the patch of wood y'all are usually working on. But
if you include the field that you have to cross
to get to the pole Barn, then you're looking at

(45:29):
about two hundred acres. And I have to laugh because
here's text and all of y'all think, and that y'all
are so far away from that thing. Y'all are six
hundred yards away from it.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
See. I've never been to the Polebarn, so I don't. Yeah,
I think if you took it, because I usually have
a fairly good sense of direction and putting things together,
I think if I had been there, I would probably
have realized that we were pretty close to it, and
I would again probably like not be as comfortable as
I am sleeping.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Yeah, so count one of those things. But yeah, it
would be if you take the road to get around there. Yeah,
you're driving about a mile a mile and a half.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, because you gotta go way down out and back in.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
If if you go straight across the field, you're six
hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I'm surprised it doesn't connect.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
They just didn't do a road across there.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Because there's a road I thought. So as we're coming
out of camp and we're leaving right, we're coming towards instead.
There's that initial field to our left. Then we cross
a second cattle guard and there's another road there to
the left, and that that doesn't take you to the

(46:54):
pull barn. Yeah, oh it would.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, we take you to it, but it's
still pretty good ways. Yeah you got a twist and
wine back around in there.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
But yeah, I really just need to drive down those
roads because I'm not afraid of getting lost, Like I'll
drive down the road doesn't scar me usually.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Well, yeah, the next time around, y'all have to adventure
out a little bit more because y'all still haven't gone
down to the houses.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
I didn't even know there were house. I mean, I
knew about the pool.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Barn that yeah, uh the other houses that abandoned houses
or the torn down houses. Oh I like it houses, yeah,
partially torn down one. So the first time text came
out or showing them around, you know, I've been sending
them pictures of stuff that was going on everything else,

(47:48):
and they came out there and they found pretty much
the same stuff I've been saying, you know, and everything,
and I was like, well, I mean, I've seen them
in this house down here, you know. I've got a
picture of one basically and in the wall of this house,
and it's kind of one of those things that you see,

(48:11):
like a black void is what you see. And because
again apparently these things emit some type of electromagnetic field
that does not allow pictures at least not any kind
of digital And we go down there because I was

(48:34):
going to set up a game camera rangers with them.
We get out. First thing, we find, ok, nine print
that big. I'm like, well, I guess I know which
way I'm pointing the camera at. And we go and
we're looking around the house and I'm all right, we'll

(48:54):
be careful because I was told that there were some
honey beans down here, all right. They were trying to
tear the house down, and they stopped because of the
honey bees. So it was like, you know, was that
the reason why I had something else?

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Carrol?

Speaker 5 (49:07):
And we don't even go to the house yet. So
text goes wandering off over to one side. Ranger and
I go following the cow trail off over the other side.
We see where they started tearing the house down, and
we see where the honeybe nest is. We're sitting here

(49:30):
looking at it. We're just kind of chatting. And about
that time we hear a screen door open and shut
and then boots on a hardwood floor. Yep, and both
Ranger and I hauler around. Hey, text, look out for
these bees over here. Don't get them stirred up. About
that time, he pokes his head out around the other side.
What are y'all talking about?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Sure, you're not just looking at each other. So I
go back to the true I grabbed my firearm, like, well,
now I have to go in there. So I go
in and check it out, and I do not find
anybody whatsoever inside at all. I'm checking open the attic area,

(50:12):
I'm checking everywhere.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Nothing the nice little residual haunting there for you.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Yeah, So it's like, well, okay, so that was their
first visit out here, was that?

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Okay, Scott, thank you so much for that.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
That is awesome, And he's wanted to go back to there,
but he can't ever get away from down in the bottom.
But again, that one's up there actually close to the
house I live in, So.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
I mean, there's just two thousand acres. There's just so
much there, but.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
It's a lot of barrier to cover it is.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
And I like the area that we research. I mean,
I think it's got a nice little chunk of of everything. Right,
You've got the homestead that I think is active personally
in multiple ways. Yeah, that little area where we camp
text and I have heard like that clinking sound. It
almost sounds like glass tapping.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
There's no we around metal pipes or something like that.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Yeah, and then there's that that flat area that we
were discussing right that I think is creepy. But your
wife loves you know.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Everybody well, obviously my wife is a force to be
reckoned with. So definitely one of those things. Whenever you
see somebody five foot six get out with a little
submachine gun, you know somebody's gonna be able to handle something, right.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, she is. She's a She's a spitfire for sure.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
So but yeah, and it's kind of one of those
things of we uh yeah, at that night, we were
I of the worst about taking photos anymore.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I've got a ton of photos if you if you
follow me on really Instagram or TikTok, I've got a
video like montage of still photos obviously from the last time.
I was not the last time when I first went
out there this past November. Yeah, I've got a lot

(52:41):
of photos of that, and it'll give you an idea.
You can see the field, you can see the homestead,
you can see the creek. I don't think I took
any pictures of the creepy forest area, but it's like
right adjacent to the to the homestead. But tell us,
tell us again to refresh our memories about when you
and your wife like had that time slip when you

(53:04):
were walking.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Yeah, so we went down there. We were looking for
where the graveyard's at, and we were checking in that
one area. And what's really weird is, Okay, you can
see the field on the other side of those trees.
It does not look like it's far. It looks like
it's maybe fifty yards, But once you get inside those trees,
it seems like it multiplies by ten and you can

(53:29):
just keep walking and walking. And the problem is is,
whenever you start going in there and you start paying attention,
you'll try to start follow a cowtrail or an animal trail,
and it goes to a boat dark tree with an arch.
It goes up to that arch and then the trail
doesn't go any further. Well, to me, that says I'm

(53:53):
not walking through there. Sure you're picking and shoe using
ways around to get away and not go through all
these archways. And yeah, her nickname is Honey Badger.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Oh okay, I know I call her by her real name,
but I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
There's a story behind that, basically.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Honey Badger, don't give it.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
Yes, it was kind of one of those things some
of our friends, they have these cutesy names and everything
else for each other and always that. And she looked
at me one time and as we were about to
head out the door to go get some food or something,
her and my friend's wife, they were sitting down. She goes,
why don't you ever use cute names for me? Well, okay,

(54:46):
honey Badger. And about that time I got a book
or something thrown at me. But the name stuck because
it's fitting. She looks all cute and cuddle and she'll
rip your face off if you give her half a chance.
But yeah, yeah, yeah, we haven't given her a reason

(55:10):
not to be sweet. Yeah, so until you give her
a reason not to be Yeah. But we went in
there and looking around searching and everything else. We found
old trees that were cut by saw. I mean like

(55:34):
it looked like somebody came down with one of the
flat saws all a chainsaw. This It was not the
same type of markings on it and everything else. We're
talking about a tree that you can definitely tell has
been down for at least eighty years. I found several
of those in there. We found where the old road

(55:55):
was in there, and what looked like the gates and
everything else. Yes, she is a good cook. She and
we were, you know, walking through all that area. We
finally made our way through it and over to where

(56:16):
the homestead was and then back out. And we were
sitting here thinking that, you know, we're only in there
for about forty five minutes or so. And we get
back to the car and we look at our phones
and the time jumps four hours. I'm like, well that's

(56:39):
a bit weird.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Yeah, it'd string.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
And the whole time we're in there, We're sitting here
here and what we'd hear a woodpecker in one area,
then we'd hear a sound that mimics the woodpecker. And
the reason why I say mimics the woodpecker is because
it sounds like it's a woodpecker. The weigh two hundred pounds.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
I remember, like I remember, there's something there's woods that
mimics birds weighs.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
I remember the crow, Yeah, the berry white crow. I
know what did that? Finally saw something that might make
that noise. But again that's something that I don't know
why the hell it's around or anything else, but yeah,
it so yeah, that was that. That was kind of

(57:36):
in between the times you all have been out, uh
then and like I said, we've been all through there.
And then whenever Texts came out with his nephew and
Ranger and all that, Ranger's nephew and I we all
went down walked and we were kind of checking some
of that out. We didn't go in there. All of

(57:56):
us kind of had bad, hinky feeling about that area.
Sure it just kind of you know, make the hair
on the back you next stand up. But we were
walking by and right next to where one of the
trees that had been cut that we knew about, and
I was showing him there were two beer bottles, one
of them that was empty, one of them that was
still full.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
It wasn't me then.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
Here's the problem. You remember the butt ice bottles that
looked like it had ice cubes on it. Yeah, that's
what bottles they were.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Those are old man but ice and yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
And they weren't there the last time we were up there.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
That's so weird.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
I'd be like finding a zema bottle.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Zema nights.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Yeah, it was kind of one of those things. I
was sitting here trying to wrap my mind on what
the heck what are these bottles and everything? So we
took them back in textacos. That's butt ice bottle. I'm like,
oh shit, it is. That's whenever I started drink. But
at the same time, they weren't there whenever my wife

(59:08):
and I were walking through there, right, so where they
heck they can come from. Yeah, So then it's kind
of one of those things. Well you go back to
the Faye or time lapsing or anything like that, like, Okay,
there's something weird going on down there. It's time lapses,
it's faye, it's it's portals. I don't know what, but

(59:29):
something weird happens on down there. And yeah, so we
found that, and of course at the time we're walking
back and we have those we hear the crows, the
snitches the forest. We hear them going off all over
the place, and there's probably six or seven of them,

(59:50):
and we're walking down the road not really paying much
attention to them, and then all of a sudden, from
the same kind of direction but fairly close, there is
one that sounds like it's two to three hundred pounds
that goes off like I mean, you get your car, car,
and then you got car hell. Because one of us
jumps and looks that direction, like, what in the world

(01:00:12):
was that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah? Yeah, and jump rope like I did that night.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Just yeah, hopped, yeah. And we're sitting here looking, you know,
what the world going on with this? And we kind
of walk a little further down and look back through
those trees because you can see all the way through them,
there's no underbrush, and here's something playing pika boo behind
a tree with us. There's about a man's size, maybe

(01:00:40):
a little bigger. You know, it's kind of hard to
see where is that? Now, let's go find out. So
we start walking into the woods with it, going to
check it out, you know, and again it feels like
it's getting the larger and everything else, and we get
in there, and it disappears it's not playing peekaboo with

(01:01:02):
us anymore. In irony of it is is come to
find out later, whenever we went back and looking, where
we end up stopping and where it started to get
where we had chills on us was right where I
suspect that grave start yard is right there where I
found him mount right with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
That's back behind that one pump, right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
Yeah, yep, that's back behind the one pump actually pretty
close to where we had that uh that thing jump
up yeah bluff charges that night. And so we're like, okay, well,
let's let's turn around and go ahead and head out here,
head out of here. And as we're walking back, I
look off to the left and I see it like

(01:01:47):
a mist just kind of going along pacing with us.
And I'm like, huh, all right. Every day, you know,
Texa's nephew is like, isn't it what you're not supposed
to do in the horror movie? Like, yeah, you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
You don't get cool stories by not following the mess.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Uh no he uh. I really had to ask Text
what he thought about bringing him out there for his
first investigation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
I mean, how I don't know how old Texas nephew is.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Yeah, yeah, okay, he's own enough, but you could definitely
tell it shook him up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
So yeah, I mean, hey, initiation by fire.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Yeah, definitely did that, especially whenever we dropped texts off
because Text plays his call and we hear something in
the brush off to our side that didn't seem to
like it. So Text wants to get out and look
and wants us to drive off.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Yeah, Text does that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Well, there's the thing about it is is we drove
off down the road, turned around on a well pad
down there, and I'm sitting here and I'm watching the
silhouette of this very large cane nine up on top
of a hill, watching us, and I'm sitting here looking
at it. And then that's whenever his nephew spots it
up there, he's trying to get pictures and they're just

(01:03:23):
not coming out. He's like, what is that? Is that
a cow? Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
And then it moves and it's like, that's not a cow.
And you know, we sit there for a bit and
I'm watching it and it's like it's sitting there watching us,
and then it starts moving back towards Tech where Text
is at. I'm like, all right, let's go back and

(01:03:48):
go pick him up, and we head back, and that's
when over us see his headlamp be bopping up the
hill faster than I ever expected to see him trying
to be bop up the hill. Like, I'm like, why
is Text actually moving that fast? He just meanders most
of the time, you don't. This looks like he's trying
to actually, you know, get up the hill a fairly

(01:04:10):
fast pace. I'm like, what's going on? And he gets
back in there he goes, well, that got my heart
rate up. And that's whenever he told me about you know,
the the chomping and then the growl.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
So h.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Miles, Text don't run, Text don't run.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
He's speed walks, though he definitely.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
Tried to speed walk up that hill. And I don't
blame him either, right, but.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
What was bad? Of course, you know the time he's
going to get out, I'm like, well, do you have
your pistol? No, take mine?

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
M hm. Last time I borrowed somebody's pistol, they had
a cross straw that I wasn't used to m hm,
and I couldn't get the gun out of the whole
sterre So I ripped the entire holster off my belt.
That's how freaked out I was. I ripped the whole
ster off my Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
Now a revolver. M.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
I love revolvers.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
They're simple, they are.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
So certain situations you want one, but other situations you
want us. In my own mac, it just depends on
what you're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
So sure, so well we were there. So what happened
was there were six of us. Four of us were armed,
two of us weren't. One of them was me. We
were walking. We walked from camp out to the roads

(01:06:12):
that are right in front of the homestead. Right, so
you have the homestead to the right, You've got that
natural gas well to your left, and directly ahead of
you as you kind of take a bend on the road,
is that dark hollow? And what kind of like spooked
me after the fact was that everybody went on and

(01:06:35):
Christen I had to wait for my husband to put
some crap toget. I don't know why I had to wait.
So we had to play catch up, and everybody was
already down the road. So we were walking by ourselves,
unarmed to catch up with the main group and I
didn't even think about it until later on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Well, before we crossed the cattle guard.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I thought, you guys are on the other side of
the cattle guard.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
No, no, you crossed the kettle guard with us.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
I didn't think I did. I know I did on
the way back, but it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
Was I think, y'all holler dat as right as we
were on the other side, and we waited for you
before we got into the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I didn't want to get.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
Shot, but obviously we knew flashlights were coming out behind us.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
But yeah, I didn't think we did. Maybe we did.
I don't know. I can't remember that, but I do
remember pitching up with y'all. So we're walking past the homestead, right,
and we're going we kind of go off to the
left and poke around a little bit near the oil
well or the cass well, and then we come back

(01:07:43):
to the road and we're going into the creepy dark area.
And so you want to tell everybody what took place
when we got into the creepy dark area.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
So as we're walking in there now, actually before we
even got up there, I tell Nick, Hey, Nick, take
a look right there, because he had his thermal. So
he goes why, And I said, take a look right there.
He pulled up his THRMB and he looks over there
and he goes, that don't make sense, and it's like, why, well,

(01:08:17):
you see he goes, Well, there's something there, he goes,
but it's showing cold. He goes, I've got this set
for black as hot white. It's cold. He goes, there's
something that is basically playing peekaboo behind the trees that's cold,
that's colder than the ambient temperature and everything else. Okay,

(01:08:41):
he goes, but he'll it'll drop down to the ground
and then scurry across to another tree and then lift up.
I'm like, okay. So he's kind of keeping an eye
on that as we're wandering walking around, and we get
around to there, and you know, he's sitting here and
he's saying, well, it's back in the area, back behind there.
So that's when we walk up towards the well pad,

(01:09:04):
walk in there and kind of look around. But we
don't get too much further in there because it's just
you get much closer your hair starts standing up bad.
And so we kind of backed off a little bit
and went back to the road, started walking and he's
saitting here, well there's more than one now, and he's
looking ahead up us down the road. There's more than
one of them, there's at least two, maybe three. And

(01:09:30):
he's like, that's weird. And then some of the trees
were showing up cold and we're talking, you know, fifteen
to thirty degrees colder than what the ambient temperature is.
That's not right. That's not normal for a tree to
be showing up like that. That's not normal for anything

(01:09:50):
out there to be moving around that's that way because well,
unless it's a lizard, it's not going to be colder
than us. And that's a big lizard, especially be walking
around on two legs. And as we're walking down that way,
I end up with a growl just right to my right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Mm hmm, I remember that. I was right next to
you and your head snapped over.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Yeah, you know I heard that growl and head snapped over.
Gun came up, and uh, what's past. Before we even
went for this walk, you know, Nick had been asking me, well,
what do these things look like in in thermal like
like interference said, you can be having you can have

(01:10:36):
your thermal or night vision. You can have it you
can look, it's perfect, perfect, perfect, fuzzy perfect. Where it's
fuzzy is where it's at every time. And he said, well,
why you know, my theory on that is an electromagnetic
field something along those lines, because if you go into

(01:10:56):
an area that has a high electromagnetic field, thermal or digital,
there's an interference with the digital instruments. Yeah, hence the
reason why they use them piece. You know, it takes
out of all your digital equipment. So obviously whenever we

(01:11:20):
hear that grow, I looked to the side, and then
he goes, well, that's why's my night. You know, his
thermal started acting up whenever he is looking there. He goes,
it won't clear up. It's fuzzy, it will not clear up.
I'm like told you. He's like, what do you mean
about that time I click a flashlight on and you
see this gray fur about probably five foot up, maybe

(01:11:44):
a little bit taller. Just move back into the brush
further and like, uh, okay, I'm not sure who all
saw that. I know that our friends saw it that
was with us. Yeah, my wife saw it, and of

(01:12:04):
course I saw it, and I'm pretty sure Nick saw
it as well. But he was trying to trying to explain.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
It together, because Nick is pretty skeptical, so extremely Yeah,
when he sees things that he can't explain, he gets quiet. Yeah,
he's mulling it over right.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then of course you know he
does that. But something caught his attention back over where
the other things were, and he looked back over there
and he goes, I don't like this. I don't like
this at all. I don't I don't want to be here.
And what he described it was is that between these
two trees, it started to shimmer. Yeah, he said it
was like, yeah, that doing that, like almost like the

(01:12:50):
tree trunks and everything. We're doing that. And uh. I
was like, okay, well, I think that groul was to
tell us not to go any further anyway, So let's
go ahead and head back. And the whole time we're
starting to head back, I'm starting to sit here and think,
I'm like, wait a minute. Where we're going is a
perfect kill box because we have to walk between two

(01:13:11):
green walls that you have nowhere to go, and it's
very narrow, and it's like, all right, yep, something was
setting the trap for us. Okay, you be on extra guard.
So my wife and our friend was up front. You

(01:13:34):
two were in the middle. Nick and I were at
the back. Nick and I were walking backwards the whole way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
I know, we stopped to look because we saw the
light in the trees where that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
Yeah, we did stop there by the by the homestead
because the first time you were out we had that
whole portal incident or whatever you want to call it.
There with the glowing trees that shouldn't glow because there's
nothing behind it to make it glow. Yeah, and you know,
whenever we first walked by, it is all normal, look perfect.

(01:14:09):
When we come back, it was glowing. Mm hmmm, like hmm,
all right, it wasn't doing that well ago. Yeah, so
it's like, okay, something else is out here with us. Yeah, yeah,
all right, how bad is this gonna get?

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
And I'm sitting here kicking myself because I'm just carrying
that lever action. I'm like, yeah, I should have opted
for something a little better than this. So now, granted
that thing packs a punch and does good and I
can work it quite well, but it was probably not
going to be the best choice for how many we
were dealing with. Considering we figure there's at least three

(01:14:57):
or four out there, and uh, we're heading back and
then something just runs right up on us on that
one side that's closest to the road.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah, because we were standing still for a minute, and
I can't remember where we stopped because we were headed
back to camp, so it was off to our right,
and I just remember all of a sudden there was
a commotion.

Speaker 7 (01:15:26):
Yeah, it wasn't a deer. And because of course Nick
looks at it. Yeah, he went to look at it,
and it was blurry like there you go. And but
it was kind of one of those things. We had

(01:15:46):
something on both sides of us. Yeah, and because we
got bluff charged from one side and then that happened
on the other side, and so it's like, well, okay,
let's just kind of keep keep keeping keep marching. We'll
keep you know, I'm sitting here, I have that rifle
right on where it came up to me, Like I
can see movement just behind the tree, sitting here kind

(01:16:10):
of doing this behind the tree, and I'm like, I'm
not going to shoot unless I'm positive I have to.
And but yeah, we ended up backing all the way
up to the.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Cattle guard, got across the cattle guard and then we walked.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
Yeah, it was quite interesting and it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Was very uncomfortable for the last little leg of that.
And he kept vocalizing it. He kept saying, I am
not okay back here.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Yeah, he was watched.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
He kept saying, I feel like I'm being watched and
I do not feel good right now.

Speaker 5 (01:16:49):
Yeah. He held together really well for somebody that that
hasn't experienced out there. Yeah, And I mean it, this
place is not for the faint of hearts.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
It's really not.

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
Even in the daytime, you will you will have stuff
mess with you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
There all the time. It's not coming and going, it's
I mean, we just get creeped out because we don't
have the eyes sight.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
I can't see daytime. You'll see it further away. And
I mean I've seen them broad daylight. So it's kind
of one of those things. And it's whenever the ones
that don't match up to the five that I usually see,
that's what worries me. Yeah, the five that I normally see,

(01:17:47):
I'm not I respect them, I'm not really terrified of them,
but I know quite well that I don't stand a
chance against them. Other than I could hurt one. That's
going to be about as far as it goes. Yeah,
it's a good a question here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Oh okay, do you Olderson feel that activity ams up
at certain times of the year or around a full
moon or is it?

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
Oh here's the thing. I notice it more whenever it's cooler.
But that's also because i'm outside more.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Texas is a miserable heat. Let me just tell you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
Yeah, this year it hasn't slowed down.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
It hasn't been as hot this year though, I mean
it's just now starting to get ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
Yeah, so this year, it's the only difference is is
that I've noticed the five like to stick closer together
ever since probably about March March April. They stay closer together.
You don't see the juveniles out away like they used

(01:18:54):
to be. They tend to be more like a tighter pack. Honestly,
if you're looking at pac mentality, it's like there's something
out there that can hurt them, right, That's that's how
they're acting. They're they're more on a defensive, which concerns me.

(01:19:16):
What in the world is going to make those things
on the defensive? So, so what do you think it is?

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
I know what you think it is, but let's talk
about that. So let's talk about what's putting what could
put a dogment on the defensive.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
I think I know that those and the crawler things
that do not get along at all. Now Pops is
adamant about that not being it. However, the fact that
there seems to be a lot more of those little
crawler things than I remember there ever being that kind
of concerns me because that same night, you know, we're like, well,

(01:19:57):
we're going to go check out Paul Barn since Tex
wasn't going to go down there and check it out,
we're going to. Right soon as I roll up to
that thing in my headlights, here one sticks its head
up and then back down. And then there's one to
my left, and then our friend sees one over here

(01:20:18):
to the right. We're surrounded. There's at least three of
them here, and they're coming closer. Yeah, they hold.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
So I didn't stay the night that night, right, My
husband and I once we got done with our walk
with Nick and the group, Ollerson and his group went
off to the pole bar, and my husband and I
said good night to everybody who was still awake at
camp and we packed up and left because I am
old and I am not sleeping in the heat. My

(01:20:55):
roughinite days are in the rearview mirror. And as we
were driving out, we have to at a certain point
parallel the road that goes to and from the Polebarn.
So my husband and I are coming down the road
and I see Ollerson's car just hauling ass coming out

(01:21:17):
from the direction of the Pole Barn, and they meet
up with us, and that's where we stop. And you
tell me what you guys saw.

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
Yeah, we were probably doing about seventy five eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Yeah, they were, I'm not kidding. They were only and
those roads. Let me tell you, like, this is cattle pasture.
These aren't paved roads. These aren't you know. Somebody might
come out and grate them a couple of times a year,
but by and large, like there's potholes, there's big rocks there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
They're not supo.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Yeah. I just bought a super roo by the.

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
Way, Oh nice, I love it. Yeah, well, their terbot
is quite fun.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Thank you, quack. I'm glad you're enjoying it. It is
a good show. Yeah, I got a cent Oh you did.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
Nice. It's got the same motor as that one. I've
gotten it, so yeah, it'll be fun. But we were
we were actually looking at getting a cent next. But
I'm probably gonna end up getting a pick up. I
don't know. You Yeah, I'll get something, but yeah, no,

(01:22:33):
we we were definitely booking it out of there. We
definitely didn't want to stick around down there any further
than what we had to because uh huh no. One, sure,
I'll test my luck. Three No, no hack now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Uh So we are coming up on two things. We're
coming up to the end of the show. But also
so we are coming up on the cool weather season
where there's going to be a lot more investigations out there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
So this is of course to be continued. We love
having Ullerson on here. So I definitely want you to
come back whenever you're comfortable coming back, definitely, and we
can talk about, you know, the other things that happened.
I have no doubt we didn't even get to talk
about the two winged creatures that you saw, right.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
Oh, we can do a quick show, a quick little
segue into that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Yeah, so let's let's talk about that real quick before
we say good night, because this is a really interesting story.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
So one of the mornings, you know, I was we
heard a commotion out in the carpoard. We go aside,
there's a stray cat fighting with our cat. Okay, well,
general rule is on the farm, if we can't vaccinate it,
it doesn't live. Just so that for the safety of

(01:24:04):
our lives, stalking our animals. So I dispatched that. It
ends up being in the horse pen. Wife asked me
to get out of the horse pen so we don't
have to worry about, you know, the vultures and the
coyotes coming in to the horse pen to get them.

(01:24:24):
So the next morning, I was, yeah, I'll get it
out of there, you know, in the daylight. And because
there's red at dusk whenever that happened, so it was like,
if it's still there in the morning, then I'll get
it out of there, haul it out. So I go
out there the next morning. I do that, and I'm

(01:24:45):
walking out there and I'm basically him in my pajamas
with cowboy boots on and walking down and I have
just pistel on a gun belt because it's out here,
grab the shovel and take it and toss it over.
I start noticing shadows flying around, birds, and then I

(01:25:07):
start hearing crows calling. I'll look up. There's twenty or
thirty crow They're flying around me. And then they fly
over and some of them are roosting in the trees.
They're over next to the pen as Will's flying around
and circling over it. And I'm like, well, that's a
little weird. That's a lot of crow. And I'm like, okay,

(01:25:31):
kind of strange. And I start walking a little further
back and it catches my attention again. I look over there,
and you know how whenever you see the mirages, it's
just kind of the waverer what yeah, And it's like that,
and it kind of clears up and inside there there

(01:25:53):
are these two humanoid figures that look like they're close.
There are just two people standing there, probably Dick's foot
tall roughly. They have cloak, hooded cloak with the hood
up over, so you can't see any facial feature or
anything else. I can't see what their hands look like.
All I can see is it's two figures in black cloaks,

(01:26:15):
and on the shoulders it looks like it's feathers, like
black feathers on there. One of them even had a
little speck of white in the feathers, and it's like,
what in the world is going on here? I'm sitting
here looking at these things, like, yeah, I ain't got

(01:26:39):
time for this today. I'm like, y'all aren't attacking me.
Y'all are just sitting there staring at me and watching me.
Hope y'all enjoy the show. I'm going back inside, and uh,
you know, of course I message you in text and

(01:27:00):
let y'all know, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know
what's going on with this, but this was a little weird.
And even whenever I went to leave the house, the
crows were following me as I went to leave, and
you know, you and I were sitting here spitballing ideas
back and forth, and I'm like, well, maybe it's Hoogen
and moonit right, I mean thought and memory. Maybe that's

(01:27:24):
what it was. It was representation of film.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
And for people who don't know who they are, would
explain what those are.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
Those are Odin's ravens. They're his pets. They're the ones
that he sends to check on his to check out
the world for them, check out Midguard. So he will
send them to go gether information, go keep an eye
on something or even assist by giving you know, advice

(01:27:55):
or any way they can to the people that he
has chosen to try to assist or he has an
interest in for some reason. But they're basically thought and
memory is what they are. Along with his two wolves,

(01:28:19):
he has Grekian Thraki, which you know, those are supposed
to be very interesting as well.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
I imagine, I don't think anything's coming from Odin that
wouldn't be.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
In the Yeah, exactly. It definitely wouldn't be something that
most people would be able to handle as far as
that goes, because again, the ravens were supposed to be
able to shape shift essentially and so into whatever shape

(01:29:02):
they really needed to. So in the mythology that it
would stand to reason that something like those two creatures
shifting into birds to fly away, because is that murder
of crows was following me there were two larger ones
in the group, so you know, it's kind of one

(01:29:25):
of those things. But that was something that was very,
very very startling, to say the least, because again, I'm
out here and freaking pajamas, boots and a belt on.
That's about it, right, I'm like, you know, it's not

(01:29:48):
like I'm wearing battle gears, so.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Well that that was an interesting sighting for sure, and
I mean I thought that your your thoughts on it
were pretty interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
It Again, you know, most everything that I come across,
I try to tie it back to Norse mythology for
the most part. But it's not necessarily the answer to everything,
but it has an answer for most everything, at least
as far as I've found, a lot of the stuff

(01:30:25):
can be explained with it. So that's just where I
tend to fall to a lot of yah, including the
what we were talking about earlier with the whole reading

(01:30:47):
and everything else where, finding stuff, hunting everything is like that.
That that's something that's tied to Uber so hence your namesake.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
That's he was also supposed to be one of the
only ones that could stand up to a lot of
the y so could be something tied into that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
Who knows the So I'm thinking my Norwegian, your your those.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
The giants, those are the giants, so which not all
of them are giants. Some of them were only too
foot tall.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
That would be a troll yep, Yeah, so they.

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
Had trolls, but they also had the giants, which were
you know, giant trolls. Oh yeah, yeah, but the yut
and they were all different shape, sizes and looks and
everything else with yeah, magic abilities supposedly glimmer and everything.

(01:32:05):
But some of them even had the descriptions of Bigfoot.
And then of course, you know, some of their offsprings
were what fin Reer was, and then Fenrier's offspring was
walking and talking canids.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Yeah, can get into a full Norse mythology conversation, but
we gotta we got to wrap it up for the night.
We've we've hit our time.

Speaker 5 (01:32:36):
Sounds good, and.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
You've got to go back to work because there's no
rest for Ullerson.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Let's tell everybody where they can reach out to you
if you're you know, okay with with getting email or
if you have a social media that you'd like people
to know about, and if you don't, that's okay too.

Speaker 5 (01:33:03):
So obviously I am on YouTube. I will start actually
posting some videos as I get them. There are a
couple of shorts on the page already. They're just a
few things.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
But.

Speaker 5 (01:33:23):
That's pretty much it as far as right now.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Yep. So if you want to check it out, check
out his YouTube, Joe, you want to tell everybody what's up.
Are we doing a speakeasy tomorrow night?

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Hell yeah, yeah, we're gonna do one. I got a
couple thoughts lined up. I kind of want to do
one on the Cabbage Patch Kids and not the dolls,
the actual the whole era about the Cabbage Pats.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
The only Cabbage Patch Kids I'm aware of are the
creepy ass dolls from the eighties.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
It derives from a thing like in the I think
it was in the twenties where there was like this
mass No, it was before that. I was in the
late eighteen hundreds where there was a mass production of
incubators that were showed up at the state fairs, and

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they were they were talking about how you basically baked
babies and these incubators and to repopulate the world, and certainly.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Baked babies like you're whipping up a cake.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Yeah, yeah, you like put it in there and leave
for babies at State babies.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Yeah, it's really weird. So I might. I might do that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
But and then I've gotten into a lot of because
I have a lot of time lands not having a
job right now, so a lot of the new were
you know, horror movies and and just regular movies that
it came out.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
I think that'll be kind of cool. So it might
do like a fifty to fifty shot, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
All right, Well tell me what movie so I can
at least sound like a halfway know what the hell
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta watch that until down.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
I watched that today and.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
I can't guarantee I can watch it before the show
tomorrow night, but I do.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
It's give it a go. It is awesome. It is
really really really good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
They incorporated like i'd say, five to six different horror
movies into one culmination of a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
So a horror movie that is just stupid. So yeah,
that would be wonderful. Okay, So check out Lerson on
his YouTube page. Lots of content apparently on its way.
As it becomes available, he'll be uploading it and we're
going to have him back here pretty soon. And like

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I said, as the weather gets cooler, Monica and Texts
and everyone else will be stumping around out there and
giving you more stories, hopefully, like good adventure. You don't
get a good story from staying in the car.

Speaker 5 (01:36:21):
There's a lot more area to look at.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
I know to get out there when the snakes aren't around,
it's prevalent.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
If it's in the back seat, you might get a
good story.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
Well I don't know, maybe I'm too old for that crap.
So uh yeah, we'll check y'all out next time. Thanks
everybody for tuning in. I appreciate it. I appreac appreciate
everybody who gifted us and stickered us and gave out memberships.

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Y'all are the best. I really think that the Island
of Misfit Toys, of which I am a part of,
I have some of the greatest listeners out there, and
I appreciate every last one of you. So does Joe.
I know Ullerson enjoys coming on. He likes Jojo in
her fascination with the land like I love that. I
love seeing that our in our chat. So thank you everybody, y'all,

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have a good night, and until next time, be sweet.
Talk to you later.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
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