Out Late With David
I'm a life coach who came out later in life as gay. Join me as I talk with others who’ve made this LGBTQ+ coming out journey later in their lives to become who they really are.
Episodes
March 30, 2025 • 31 mins
Summary
In this conversation, Wayne Scott shares his journey through a mixed orientation marriage, detailing the challenges and transformations he and his wife faced. They navigated the complexities of identity, love, and commitment, ultimately redefining their relationship through non-monogamy. Wayne emphasizes the importance of communication, patience, and the willingness to adapt as individuals grow over time. His story serves ...
In this conversation, Wayne Scott shares his journey through a mixed orientation marriage, detailing the challenges and transformations he and his wife faced. They navigated the complexities of identity, love, and commitment, ultimately redefining their relationship through non-monogamy. Wayne emphasizes the importance of communication, patience, and the willingness to adapt as individuals grow over time. His story serves ...
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March 6, 2025 • 34 mins
In this episode of Out Late with David, Stefan Schneider shares his journey of coming out as gay, navigating relationships, and building a modern family. He reflects on the challenges of coming out in the early 90s, the impact of his sexuality on his marriage, and the emotional turmoil of divorce. Through self-discovery and therapy, Stefan learns to embrace his identity and finds happiness in his new life with his husband and blend...
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January 20, 2025 • 34 mins
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Mark Dembo shares his journey of coming out at the age of 59, reflecting on the challenges and transformations he faced in his relationships, particularly with his wife and children. He discusses the emotional weight of living a life that felt inauthentic and the liberation he felt upon embracing his true self. Mark emphasizes the importance of support from family and community, and the complexities of navigating a mixed-o...
Mark Dembo shares his journey of coming out at the age of 59, reflecting on the challenges and transformations he faced in his relationships, particularly with his wife and children. He discusses the emotional weight of living a life that felt inauthentic and the liberation he felt upon embracing his true self. Mark emphasizes the importance of support from family and community, and the complexities of navigating a mixed-o...
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November 11, 2024 • 28 mins
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In this interview David Cotton speaks with John Duerler who shares his journey of self-discovery as a gay man, navigating the complexities of coming out to his family and the challenges of maintaining relationships. He discusses the importance of being true to oneself, the supportive reactions from his family, and the creation of a community for gay fathers. John emphasizes the significance of open communication and offers...
In this interview David Cotton speaks with John Duerler who shares his journey of self-discovery as a gay man, navigating the complexities of coming out to his family and the challenges of maintaining relationships. He discusses the importance of being true to oneself, the supportive reactions from his family, and the creation of a community for gay fathers. John emphasizes the significance of open communication and offers...
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October 10, 2024 • 32 mins
In this conversation, David Cotton speaks with David Nygaard about his journey of coming out as gay later in life. They discuss the challenges of recognizing one's identity in a society that often stigmatizes homosexuality, the complexities of navigating relationships and marriage, and the impact of a significant health crisis on Nygaard's life. Nygaard shares his experiences of embracing authenticity, his political aspirations, an...
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August 28, 2024 • 31 mins
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Brian Janes, a successful real estate broker, came out as gay at age 49 after 26 years of marriage. He loved being married and had a strong connection with his wife, but deep down, he had a sexual desire that didn't match up with her. After years of therapy and self-help, his wife eventually told him she wanted a divorce. Brian knew he was gay from a young age but didn't know how to embrace it. He suppressed his true self ...
Brian Janes, a successful real estate broker, came out as gay at age 49 after 26 years of marriage. He loved being married and had a strong connection with his wife, but deep down, he had a sexual desire that didn't match up with her. After years of therapy and self-help, his wife eventually told him she wanted a divorce. Brian knew he was gay from a young age but didn't know how to embrace it. He suppressed his true self ...
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Ron Bunnell shares his journey of coming out as gay later in life and the impact it had on his marriage. Despite initial fears, Ron's wife, Barb, showed love and support, and they were able to rebuild their relationship. Ron emphasizes the importance of being authentic and true to oneself, even if it means facing challenges. He also highlights the significance of finding support from others in similar situations. Ron's sto...
Ron Bunnell shares his journey of coming out as gay later in life and the impact it had on his marriage. Despite initial fears, Ron's wife, Barb, showed love and support, and they were able to rebuild their relationship. Ron emphasizes the importance of being authentic and true to oneself, even if it means facing challenges. He also highlights the significance of finding support from others in similar situations. Ron's sto...
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David's guest, Brian, first came out to his wife over 20 years ago but chose to stay married for the sake of his family. It took ten years for him to decide it was time to live a different kind of life. Today, at age 59 he can finally say he’s “found his tribe.”
Takeaways
David's guest, Brian, first came out to his wife over 20 years ago but chose to stay married for the sake of his family. It took ten years for him to decide it was time to live a different kind of life. Today, at age 59 he can finally say he’s “found his tribe.”
Takeaways
- The struggle of coming out after being married for 20 years
- The impact of coming out on family, work, and community
- Finding a supportive LGBTQ+ communit...
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May 4, 2024 • 40 mins
Summary
In this episode, David Cotton interviews Kristin Kalbli, the host of Our Voices podcast and an LGBT ally. Kristin shares her experience as a straight spouse and her mission to help others in similar situations. They discuss the signs that Kristin missed in her marriage, the impact of her husband's coming out on their relationship, and the importance of honesty and communication in the coming out process. Kristin asks David a...
In this episode, David Cotton interviews Kristin Kalbli, the host of Our Voices podcast and an LGBT ally. Kristin shares her experience as a straight spouse and her mission to help others in similar situations. They discuss the signs that Kristin missed in her marriage, the impact of her husband's coming out on their relationship, and the importance of honesty and communication in the coming out process. Kristin asks David a...
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Charles Vollmer, a successful California chef, shares his journey of coming out later in life and the challenges he faced. After being outed by his wife, he left his possessions behind and started a new life in San Miguel, Mexico. He is rebuilding his career as a culinary teacher and started sharing his story on social media. Charles discusses the unique challenges faced by men who come out later in life, the impact on the...
Charles Vollmer, a successful California chef, shares his journey of coming out later in life and the challenges he faced. After being outed by his wife, he left his possessions behind and started a new life in San Miguel, Mexico. He is rebuilding his career as a culinary teacher and started sharing his story on social media. Charles discusses the unique challenges faced by men who come out later in life, the impact on the...
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March 7, 2024 • 30 mins
Dan Bolen - at age 70 he came out as gay, was kicked out of his church and ended his second marriage
Summary
Dan Bolen shares his journey of self-discovery and acceptance as a gay man after living a life of denial and fear. He discusses the challenges he faced in a restrictive religious community and the fear of losing his family and friends. Dan's story highlights the importance of being honest with oneself and embracing authentic...
Summary
Dan Bolen shares his journey of self-discovery and acceptance as a gay man after living a life of denial and fear. He discusses the challenges he faced in a restrictive religious community and the fear of losing his family and friends. Dan's story highlights the importance of being honest with oneself and embracing authentic...
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In this episode David interviews Larry Best, a retired trial lawyer who came out 20 years into his marriage, now living a full life with his partner and husband of 20 years. Their conversation explores the coming out journey of Larry, who shares his unique story of coming out to his business partner and wife. Larry's decision to come out was driven by a combination of personal factors, including the need to be true to himsel...
In this episode David interviews Larry Best, a retired trial lawyer who came out 20 years into his marriage, now living a full life with his partner and husband of 20 years. Their conversation explores the coming out journey of Larry, who shares his unique story of coming out to his business partner and wife. Larry's decision to come out was driven by a combination of personal factors, including the need to be true to himsel...
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February 1, 2024 • 29 mins
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In this episode David interviews Rick Clemons, well-known as the host of the popular podcast “Life (UN)Closeted” as well as “40 Plus: Gay Men, Gay Talk.” He is a sought-after public speaker and a successful life coach. He is also the author of the book “Frankly My Dear I’m Gay: the late bloomers guide to coming out." Rick shares his journey of coming out and helping men come out of the closet. He discusses the challenges of...
In this episode David interviews Rick Clemons, well-known as the host of the popular podcast “Life (UN)Closeted” as well as “40 Plus: Gay Men, Gay Talk.” He is a sought-after public speaker and a successful life coach. He is also the author of the book “Frankly My Dear I’m Gay: the late bloomers guide to coming out." Rick shares his journey of coming out and helping men come out of the closet. He discusses the challenges of...
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January 4, 2024 • 37 mins
Shaun Williams - founder of Gay Fathers Worldwide and Bent Couch Counselling
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In this episode, David Cotton interviews licensed counselor Shaun Williams; he previously had successful career in construction when he came out as gay after 25 years of marriage. After coming out he changed his career to help others finding their true selves. Shaun shares his experiences growing up in the 80s, discovering his sexuality at a young a...
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In this episode, David Cotton interviews licensed counselor Shaun Williams; he previously had successful career in construction when he came out as gay after 25 years of marriage. After coming out he changed his career to help others finding their true selves. Shaun shares his experiences growing up in the 80s, discovering his sexuality at a young a...
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December 3, 2023 • 37 mins
William Brown is an author, a licensed professional counselor, and a man who knows firsthand what it’s like to come out later in life. At age forty he told his wife of 18 years, and his children… that he is gay. What he’s learned since—helped him create the definitive “how to” book for coming out later in life.
Book Recommendation: Coming True: Seeking Truth in Self, Later In Life, by today's guest, William Brown. https://a.co/d/6c...
Book Recommendation: Coming True: Seeking Truth in Self, Later In Life, by today's guest, William Brown. https://a.co/d/6c...
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November 14, 2023 • 27 mins
This epidsode released in honor of National Transgender Awareness Week 2023.
Sara Abrams spent most of her life identifying as a man. While she never considered herself a member of the LGBTQ+ community, at age 57, she came out and transitioned from male to female, while remaining in a relationship with her female partner of 28 years.
Book Recommendation: Trans Bodies, Trans Selves: A Resource by and for Transgender Communities https...
Sara Abrams spent most of her life identifying as a man. While she never considered herself a member of the LGBTQ+ community, at age 57, she came out and transitioned from male to female, while remaining in a relationship with her female partner of 28 years.
Book Recommendation: Trans Bodies, Trans Selves: A Resource by and for Transgender Communities https...
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October 19, 2023 • 29 mins
Dr. Loren Olson is a successful psychiatrist, and a husband and grandfather who came out at age 40 after 18 years of marriage.
He is highly respected in his field, having presented extensive research on mature gay men to the World Congress in Psychiatry.
An award-winning author… he’s most well-known for his book, “Finally Out: Letting Go of Living Straight.”
Book Recommendation: Finally Out: Letting Go of Living Straight by Dr. Lor...
He is highly respected in his field, having presented extensive research on mature gay men to the World Congress in Psychiatry.
An award-winning author… he’s most well-known for his book, “Finally Out: Letting Go of Living Straight.”
Book Recommendation: Finally Out: Letting Go of Living Straight by Dr. Lor...
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October 1, 2023 • 30 mins
Marc Gravallese spent much of his life convincing himself that he couldn’t be gay, despite all evidence to the contrary. Married with four kids, he came out to his wife at age 40… and together they successfully redesigned their family. Today he believes that what most men really need… is a good hug.
Book Recommendation: Our Family Outing: A Memoir of Coming Out and Coming Through - https://a.co/d/09DOavT
Podcast website: https://ww...
Book Recommendation: Our Family Outing: A Memoir of Coming Out and Coming Through - https://a.co/d/09DOavT
Podcast website: https://ww...
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September 19, 2023 • 35 mins
Rand Bishop is a Grammy nominated songwriter, a musician, a singer, an author and a columnist. He’s neither straight, nor gay. At age 73, after three traditional marriages, he now identifies as bisexual. From his home in Oregon, Rand Bishop is here to share the joys, and challenges of being…bi.
Book Recommendation: Fashionably Late: Gay, Bi, and Trans Men Who Came Out Later in Life - Fashionably Late: Gay, Bi, and Trans Men Who Came...
Book Recommendation: Fashionably Late: Gay, Bi, and Trans Men Who Came Out Later in Life - Fashionably Late: Gay, Bi, and Trans Men Who Came...
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Rich Rumsey attended the University of Wyoming at the same time as Matthew Shepard, the gay student who was beaten and tragically left for dead near Laramie in 1998. It was a hate crime that shook him to his core. 20 years later…he would come to understand why, when he finally came out as gay to his own wife and children.
Book Recommendation: David Christel’s book, “Married Men Coming Out: The Ultimate Guide to Becoming the Man You ...
Book Recommendation: David Christel’s book, “Married Men Coming Out: The Ultimate Guide to Becoming the Man You ...
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