February 28, 2024 • 14 mins
In this episode, the hosts delve into the life of Andre Chikatilo, a notorious Soviet serial killer known for his gruesome crimes. They explore his early life, education, military service, and personal struggles, setting the stage for understanding the psychological factors that contributed to his criminal behavior. The conversation is filled with dark humor and insightful commentary, making for an engaging discussion about a complex figure in criminal history.
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Hello and welcome to Overkilling fifteen minutes, where I over
share Sam overweeds, overweeds, overweeds, I just get high and
well we go into a deep dive over one of
(00:45):
our many many episodes of regular Killing fifteen minutes, which
you should totally be watching listening to rather and today
is if you can say, well, you can tell what
today's by the title. But we're about to deep dive
(01:05):
into one of I think our first two first two
parter for Killing fifteen minutes, which was Andre Cadillo, Andre Chikatillo, anything,
you'd like to add before we start.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
He was a sick motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He was so much that we have like forty five pages.
So sorry that this might be a ten parter deep dive,
but hey, y'all wanted this. Andre Chikatilo was a Soviet
serial killer nicknamed the Butcher of Rostov, the Rostov Ripper,
and my favorite and my mind, I mean Sam's is
(01:46):
the Red Ripper. Actually I like the Butcher of Rostov
just because we don't really get a lot of butchers,
you know, Okay, I can see that. I totally see that,
and like adding making a serial killer something ripper or
blank the ripper or you.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Know, well read for the communists.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I thought I was read for the blood.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh my god, yeah, well read for the communists. Then
he was read ripper. It made sense.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
No, no, it makes sense. It's one of those things
where it's like, is the well he did? And we
will get into that. He murdered at least fifty two
women and children between nineteen seventy eight and nineteen ninety
in Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, not to be confused
(02:35):
with the USSR.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yes, USSR was the full was the entire Russian overview.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh, and the Soviet Federative Socialist Republic was the actual
country of Russia. Met he was also the Ukrainian SSR
that would be Soviet Socialist Republic and the Uzbek ss
which I believe would be Uzbekistan. Now, wait, does Uzbekistan
(03:06):
still exists?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I don't know. I didn't look that up.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Uh, listeners, please let us know if Uzbekistan still exists
or if we're old. Born October sixteenth, nineteen thirty six
in the village of Labluchne in the Assumi Oblast of
the Ukrainian SSR. At the time of his birth, Ukraine
was in a grip of a famine caused by Joseph
(03:32):
Stalin's forced collectivization of agriculture. Chakatillo's parents were farm laborers
who lived in a one room hut. They received no
wages for their work, instead received the right to cultivate
a plot of land behind the family hut. Yeah, Russia
wasn't good man. No, they still aren't. But yeah, the
(03:53):
family seldom has sufficient food. Chikatillo later claimed not to
have eaten bread until the age of twelve. I mean,
think about that, glutes Thal Throughout his childhood, he was
repeatedly told by his mother that prior to his birth,
an older brother named Stephen Stepan technically age four, was
(04:15):
kidnapped and cannibalized by starving neighbors. This was never proven
or disproven, but let's be clear, he became a massive
serial killer. So abusive family is on the Bingo card.
When the Soviet Union entered World War II, his father
was conscripted into the Red Army. He would be taken
(04:35):
prisoner after being wounded. Between nineteen forty one and nineteen
forty four, Chickatillo witnessed hours of Nazi occupation of the Ukraine.
On one occasion, he and his mother were forced to
watch his hut burned to the ground. With his father
at war, his mother and he shared a bed. Chickatillo
(04:56):
was a chronic bedwetter. His mother would beat him for it.
In nineteen forty three, e Chigotilla's mother gave birth to
a daughter, Tatiana, with his father at war. She is
most likely a product of rape, one which he most
likely witnessed. In nineteen forty four, he began his formal education.
Although shy and passionately studious, he was weak and regularly
(05:19):
wore homespun clothing. Granted, I believe that would actually be
the norm of Soviet satellite, you know, citizens at the time.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I believe so, yes, But still kids are mean.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
See I believe that. But at the same time, it's
it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, but
are the rich, white privileged kid mean and when they're
in Soviet Russia Anna or Nazi occupied US.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I believe that at this point in forty four, oh
maybe Jigatilla developed a passion for reading and memorizing data.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
He often studied at both to increase his self worth
and to commensate his near sightedness to his teachers. He
was an excellent student by his teens. Chickatilla was both
a model student and an enthusiastic communist. At fourteen, he
was appointed editor of the school newspaper and chairman of
(06:19):
the pupil's Communist Party committee. At sixteen. An avid reader
of communist literature, he was also delegated the task of
organizing street marches. He was the only student from his
collective farm to complete the final year of study. He
graduated with excellent grades in nineteen fifty four. At the
(06:39):
onset of puberty, Chickatillo found himself impotent, worsening his social
awkwardness and self hatred. He was shy in the company
of women. At seventeen, he wrestled an eleven year old
friend of his sister to the ground, ejaculated as the
girl struggled in his grasp. Oh right, these people are
(06:59):
fucking I'm sick. Following graduation, he applied for a scholarship
at Moscow State University. However, despite his highest test scores,
he was denied acceptance. Chickatillo speculated his scholarship application was
rejected due to his father's tainted war history, but the
(07:22):
truth was he just wasn't good enough. He traveled to
the city of Kursk instead of trying for another university.
In nineteen fifty five, he enrolled in a vocational school
to become a communication technician. The same year, he picked
up a girlfriend, though he was unable to perform. The
relationship lasted eighteen months. He must have been very good
(07:44):
with his fingers. I'm kidding. Not all relationships are based
on sex, is true, However, that age they generally are.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
This is even truer.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
After completion of his vocational training, Chickaitillo relocated to the
Urals city Nisny Tagil Tagel to work on a long
term project. While there, he took engineering courses through the
mail with Moscow Electro Technical Institute of Communication. He worked
(08:19):
in the Urals until nineteen fifty seven, when he was
drafted into the Red Army. Chickatillo performed his compulsory service
until nineteen sixty, assigned first to serve as border guards
in Central Asia, then to a KGB communication unit in
East Berlin. Here his work was unblemished and joined the
(08:40):
Communist Party before ending his service. In nineteen sixty, Chickatillo
returned to his native village to live with his parents.
Working on the collective farm, he started dating a divorcee.
It ended after three months when he couldn't get it up.
The woman had asked her friends for advice as to
how to keep Chickatillo, and because of that, most of
(09:02):
his peers found out about the whole impotent thing. In
a nineteen ninety three interview regarding this incident, Chikatillo stated,
girls were going behind my back whispering that I was impotent.
I was ashamed. I tried to hang myself. My mother
and some young neighbors pulled me out of the news. Well,
I thought no one would want such a shamed man,
(09:25):
So I had to run away from there, away from
my homeland. After several months, Chickatillo found a job as
a communications engineer in a town north of Rostov on Dom.
So apparently Russia also uses the really crappy England thing.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's because of all the intertwining
of all the British and the royal families.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, I don't know. You think it's a royals thing.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I think it's a royals thing. They're the ones who
are educated in Renee.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think, shit, that's true. And Russia it was very
fun when it came to let's steal some Western. Uh,
well not steal, but let's get some Western Katherine Oft, Yeah,
wasn't she a French Russian? No, yes, she was Russian,
(10:20):
but she was also she she didn't start in Russia.
She married Nicholas. Yes, now I want to say Nicholas.
I don't think it's Nicholas, but I want to say
it's Nicholas because he's played by Nicholas Old is ALU show? Great? Yeah,
I think it's what it's called or the Great One
(10:41):
or something like that. He relocated to Russia. He relocated
to the Russian s F s R in nineteen sixty one,
renting a small apartment close to work. That same year,
his sister finished her schooling and moved in with him.
His parents would relocate to the Rustov shortly thereafter as well.
(11:02):
Tatiana lived with her brother for six months before marrying.
She was determined to get her brother married off as well.
You know, if this didn't end with and then he
became the Red Ripper. I feel for this guy, I know, right,
I mean, who hasn't has a little bout of impotency.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, he had it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I know, apparently since puberty. But other than you know,
the and then I ejaculated while wrestling with one of
my sister's friends. This is kind of a feel good
story of the year. He's gonna join the fucking Russian
hockey team. He's gonna beat the fucking US hockey team. Wait,
that's not how the miracle went. How the miracle went,
(11:47):
there was a timeline for you. In an altered timeline,
he became a hockey player and the US team lost.
No thanks, to Kurt Russell. No, thanks to Kurt Russell,
he was the coaching that.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yes he was.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
For whatever reason, a movie popped into my head where
Jeff Bridges or Boat Bridges was a hockey coach. But
I can't remember what the hell that was out lugging. No,
I don't know either. He get to the killings any
time soon?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Uh, before he gets married. Now, so you want to
roll off before he gets married.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No, we'll do when he gets married and then. And
in nineteen sixty three, Chickatillo did marry. He married Fidoja
or Natcheva Onnacheva.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He had been introduced to her by his sister. According
to Chickatillo, although he was attracted to Fiadoja, dear Fiadosa.
According to Tikatillo, although he was attracted to Fidojia, his
marriage was effectively an arranged one, which occurred barely two
(12:52):
weeks after they had met, and in which the decisive
roles were played by his sister and her husband. Chickatilla
later claimed that his marital sex life was minimal. Well,
yeah it was. You were married, bana bana, yeah, and
that after his wife understood his impotency, they agreed that
(13:13):
she would conceive by him ejaculating externally and then pushing
his semen into her with his fingers. Can we get
to the killing please? I don I feel uncomfortable knowing
this guy's sex.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Life him, Yes, try to writing about it.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I'm good things in nineteen sixty five for those who
gave birth to Laudina Leodmilla lead Milla Sure and nineteen
sixty nine she then gave birth to a son, Yuri. However,
we've already been going for over fifteen minutes now, so yeah,
(13:55):
this first part, we're going so deep into this dive
that we ain't even gotten to the crimes. The hell,
it's good. I'm aj I'm gonna go chug a monster.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
We'll get to the fillings soon, I promise.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
See you then.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
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It is Ryan here, and I have a question for you.
What do you do when you win?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Like?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
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high fiver. If you want to hone in on those
winning moves, check out Chumbuck Casino. Choose some hundreds of
social casino style games for your chance to redeem serious
cash prizes. There are new game releases weekly, plus free
daily bonuses. So don't wait start having the most fun
ever at chumbucasino dot com.
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We're prohibited by Law eighteen plus. Terms and conditions apply.
Hello and welcome to Overkilling fifteen minutes, where I over
share Sam overweeds, overweeds, overweeds, I just get high and
well we go into a deep dive over one of
(00:45):
our many many episodes of regular Killing fifteen minutes, which
you should totally be watching listening to rather and today
is if you can say, well, you can tell what
today's by the title. But we're about to deep dive
(01:05):
into one of I think our first two first two
parter for Killing fifteen minutes, which was Andre Cadillo, Andre Chikatillo, anything,
you'd like to add before we start.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
He was a sick motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He was so much that we have like forty five pages.
So sorry that this might be a ten parter deep dive,
but hey, y'all wanted this. Andre Chikatilo was a Soviet
serial killer nicknamed the Butcher of Rostov, the Rostov Ripper,
and my favorite and my mind, I mean Sam's is
(01:46):
the Red Ripper. Actually I like the Butcher of Rostov
just because we don't really get a lot of butchers,
you know, Okay, I can see that. I totally see that,
and like adding making a serial killer something ripper or
blank the ripper or you.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Know, well read for the communists.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I thought I was read for the blood.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh my god, yeah, well read for the communists. Then
he was read ripper. It made sense.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
No, no, it makes sense. It's one of those things
where it's like, is the well he did? And we
will get into that. He murdered at least fifty two
women and children between nineteen seventy eight and nineteen ninety
in Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, not to be confused
(02:35):
with the USSR.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yes, USSR was the full was the entire Russian overview.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh, and the Soviet Federative Socialist Republic was the actual
country of Russia. Met he was also the Ukrainian SSR
that would be Soviet Socialist Republic and the Uzbek ss
which I believe would be Uzbekistan. Now, wait, does Uzbekistan
(03:06):
still exists?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I don't know. I didn't look that up.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Uh, listeners, please let us know if Uzbekistan still exists
or if we're old. Born October sixteenth, nineteen thirty six
in the village of Labluchne in the Assumi Oblast of
the Ukrainian SSR. At the time of his birth, Ukraine
was in a grip of a famine caused by Joseph
(03:32):
Stalin's forced collectivization of agriculture. Chakatillo's parents were farm laborers
who lived in a one room hut. They received no
wages for their work, instead received the right to cultivate
a plot of land behind the family hut. Yeah, Russia
wasn't good man. No, they still aren't. But yeah, the
(03:53):
family seldom has sufficient food. Chikatillo later claimed not to
have eaten bread until the age of twelve. I mean,
think about that, glutes Thal Throughout his childhood, he was
repeatedly told by his mother that prior to his birth,
an older brother named Stephen Stepan technically age four, was
(04:15):
kidnapped and cannibalized by starving neighbors. This was never proven
or disproven, but let's be clear, he became a massive
serial killer. So abusive family is on the Bingo card.
When the Soviet Union entered World War II, his father
was conscripted into the Red Army. He would be taken
(04:35):
prisoner after being wounded. Between nineteen forty one and nineteen
forty four, Chickatillo witnessed hours of Nazi occupation of the Ukraine.
On one occasion, he and his mother were forced to
watch his hut burned to the ground. With his father
at war, his mother and he shared a bed. Chickatillo
(04:56):
was a chronic bedwetter. His mother would beat him for it.
In nineteen forty three, e Chigotilla's mother gave birth to
a daughter, Tatiana, with his father at war. She is
most likely a product of rape, one which he most
likely witnessed. In nineteen forty four, he began his formal education.
Although shy and passionately studious, he was weak and regularly
(05:19):
wore homespun clothing. Granted, I believe that would actually be
the norm of Soviet satellite, you know, citizens at the time.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I believe so, yes, But still kids are mean.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
See I believe that. But at the same time, it's
it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, but
are the rich, white privileged kid mean and when they're
in Soviet Russia Anna or Nazi occupied US.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I believe that at this point in forty four, oh
maybe Jigatilla developed a passion for reading and memorizing data.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
He often studied at both to increase his self worth
and to commensate his near sightedness to his teachers. He
was an excellent student by his teens. Chickatilla was both
a model student and an enthusiastic communist. At fourteen, he
was appointed editor of the school newspaper and chairman of
(06:19):
the pupil's Communist Party committee. At sixteen. An avid reader
of communist literature, he was also delegated the task of
organizing street marches. He was the only student from his
collective farm to complete the final year of study. He
graduated with excellent grades in nineteen fifty four. At the
(06:39):
onset of puberty, Chickatillo found himself impotent, worsening his social
awkwardness and self hatred. He was shy in the company
of women. At seventeen, he wrestled an eleven year old
friend of his sister to the ground, ejaculated as the
girl struggled in his grasp. Oh right, these people are
(06:59):
fucking I'm sick. Following graduation, he applied for a scholarship
at Moscow State University. However, despite his highest test scores,
he was denied acceptance. Chickatillo speculated his scholarship application was
rejected due to his father's tainted war history, but the
(07:22):
truth was he just wasn't good enough. He traveled to
the city of Kursk instead of trying for another university.
In nineteen fifty five, he enrolled in a vocational school
to become a communication technician. The same year, he picked
up a girlfriend, though he was unable to perform. The
relationship lasted eighteen months. He must have been very good
(07:44):
with his fingers. I'm kidding. Not all relationships are based
on sex, is true, However, that age they generally are.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
This is even truer.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
After completion of his vocational training, Chickaitillo relocated to the
Urals city Nisny Tagil Tagel to work on a long
term project. While there, he took engineering courses through the
mail with Moscow Electro Technical Institute of Communication. He worked
(08:19):
in the Urals until nineteen fifty seven, when he was
drafted into the Red Army. Chickatillo performed his compulsory service
until nineteen sixty, assigned first to serve as border guards
in Central Asia, then to a KGB communication unit in
East Berlin. Here his work was unblemished and joined the
(08:40):
Communist Party before ending his service. In nineteen sixty, Chickatillo
returned to his native village to live with his parents.
Working on the collective farm, he started dating a divorcee.
It ended after three months when he couldn't get it up.
The woman had asked her friends for advice as to
how to keep Chickatillo, and because of that, most of
(09:02):
his peers found out about the whole impotent thing. In
a nineteen ninety three interview regarding this incident, Chikatillo stated,
girls were going behind my back whispering that I was impotent.
I was ashamed. I tried to hang myself. My mother
and some young neighbors pulled me out of the news. Well,
I thought no one would want such a shamed man,
(09:25):
So I had to run away from there, away from
my homeland. After several months, Chickatillo found a job as
a communications engineer in a town north of Rostov on Dom.
So apparently Russia also uses the really crappy England thing.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's because of all the intertwining
of all the British and the royal families.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, I don't know. You think it's a royals thing.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I think it's a royals thing. They're the ones who
are educated in Renee.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think, shit, that's true. And Russia it was very
fun when it came to let's steal some Western. Uh,
well not steal, but let's get some Western Katherine Oft, Yeah,
wasn't she a French Russian? No, yes, she was Russian,
(10:20):
but she was also she she didn't start in Russia.
She married Nicholas. Yes, now I want to say Nicholas.
I don't think it's Nicholas, but I want to say
it's Nicholas because he's played by Nicholas Old is ALU show? Great? Yeah,
I think it's what it's called or the Great One
(10:41):
or something like that. He relocated to Russia. He relocated
to the Russian s F s R in nineteen sixty one,
renting a small apartment close to work. That same year,
his sister finished her schooling and moved in with him.
His parents would relocate to the Rustov shortly thereafter as well.
(11:02):
Tatiana lived with her brother for six months before marrying.
She was determined to get her brother married off as well.
You know, if this didn't end with and then he
became the Red Ripper. I feel for this guy, I know, right,
I mean, who hasn't has a little bout of impotency.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, he had it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I know, apparently since puberty. But other than you know,
the and then I ejaculated while wrestling with one of
my sister's friends. This is kind of a feel good
story of the year. He's gonna join the fucking Russian
hockey team. He's gonna beat the fucking US hockey team. Wait,
that's not how the miracle went. How the miracle went,
(11:47):
there was a timeline for you. In an altered timeline,
he became a hockey player and the US team lost.
No thanks, to Kurt Russell. No, thanks to Kurt Russell,
he was the coaching that.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yes he was.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
For whatever reason, a movie popped into my head where
Jeff Bridges or Boat Bridges was a hockey coach. But
I can't remember what the hell that was out lugging. No,
I don't know either. He get to the killings any
time soon?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Uh, before he gets married. Now, so you want to
roll off before he gets married.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No, we'll do when he gets married and then. And
in nineteen sixty three, Chickatillo did marry. He married Fidoja
or Natcheva Onnacheva.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He had been introduced to her by his sister. According
to Chickatillo, although he was attracted to Fiadoja, dear Fiadosa.
According to Tikatillo, although he was attracted to Fidojia, his
marriage was effectively an arranged one, which occurred barely two
(12:52):
weeks after they had met, and in which the decisive
roles were played by his sister and her husband. Chickatilla
later claimed that his marital sex life was minimal. Well,
yeah it was. You were married, bana bana, yeah, and
that after his wife understood his impotency, they agreed that
(13:13):
she would conceive by him ejaculating externally and then pushing
his semen into her with his fingers. Can we get
to the killing please? I don I feel uncomfortable knowing
this guy's sex.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Life him, Yes, try to writing about it.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I'm good things in nineteen sixty five for those who
gave birth to Laudina Leodmilla lead Milla Sure and nineteen
sixty nine she then gave birth to a son, Yuri. However,
we've already been going for over fifteen minutes now, so yeah,
(13:55):
this first part, we're going so deep into this dive
that we ain't even gotten to the crimes. The hell,
it's good. I'm aj I'm gonna go chug a monster.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
We'll get to the fillings soon, I promise.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
See you then.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Hey, it is Ryan Seacrest. There's something so thrilling about
playing Chumpba Casino. Maybe it's the simple reminder that with
a little luck, anything as possible. Chumbucasino dot Com has
hundreds of social casino style games to choose from, with
new game releases each week. Play for free, anytime, anywhere
for your chance to redeem some serious prizes. Join me
in the fun. Sign up now a chumbacasino dot com
(14:32):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!