March 20, 2024 • 14 mins
This conversation delves into the chilling case of Andrei Chikatilo, a notorious serial killer in Russia. The hosts explore the details of his gruesome murders, the investigation that ensued, and the psychological profiling that was developed to understand his motives. The discussion highlights the complexities of the case, including the challenges faced by law enforcement and the societal implications of Chikatilo's actions.
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Speaker 3 (00:46):
Hello and welcome to Try five on part four of
opening the episode or episodes, depending on how you want
to view it of Overkilling fifteen minutes on Andre Chiccatillo,
The Red Ripper of Rostov See Now that's fucking name
That name previously. The police are hot on his trail
(01:07):
and grabbing all the gaze they can to get them
to confess the murders. Uh, he's been killing a lot
of people. Yes he has. And we're only seventeen pages
into a forty five page script. This is gonna be fun.
On August seventh, he lord seventeen year old Ladmina Alexeyeva
(01:29):
Alexeyeva to the banks of the Don River on the
guise of showing her a shortcut. Alexeyeva suffered thirty nine
slash wounds before he mutilated and dismembered her. Oh sorry, sorry,
I misspoke. He disemboweled her, and they wonder why these
(01:49):
aren't as funny as the regular killing. Fifteen's intentionally inflicting
wounds he knew would not kill her body was found
the next morning. Hours after Alexeyeva's murder, Chikatillo flew to
the Uzbek capital, Tashkent on a business trip. By his
return on August fifteenth, he had murdered an unidentified young
(02:12):
woman and a ten year old Akmaral seedyol Nieva. Again,
I'm terribly sorry about name pronunciations. Within two weeks, the
nude body of eleven year old Alexander Cheppel was found
on the banks of the Don River, strangled, castrated, with
his eyes gouged out, and just yards from Alexeyev's body
(02:34):
had been found where and just yards from where Alexeyeva's
body had been found. On September sixth, Chikatillo murdered a
young librarian, twenty four year old Irena Luchinskaya, in the
Park of Aviators. I'm assuming that the Park of Aviators
(02:56):
is one of his major dumps at this stage anyways,
just like by the Don River, and you know. On
September thirteenth, nineteen eighty four, he was observed by two
plane closed officers attempting to talk to young women at
a Rostov bus station. The detectives followed. I remember this
guy now because this is the part in the thing
that made me really fucking really I think. On September thirteen,
(03:22):
nineteen eighty four, he was observed by two plane closed
officers attempting to talk to young women at a Rostov
bus station. The detectives following him as he wandered through
the city trying to talk to women and committing acts
of pretherism. Ah frothing that would be when you're rubbing
yourself against non consenting women for sexual pleasure, or what
(03:45):
most women go through when they go to a nightclub.
Upon Chikatila's arrival at the City Central Market, he was
arrested and held a search found a knife with a
twenty centimeter that would be seven point nine inches for
you people who think size matters, blade, several lengths of rope,
and a jar of vaseline. In the summer of nineteen
eighty four, Chikatillo was fired from his job as a
(04:08):
supply clerk for theft of two rolls of linoleum. The
accusation had been filed in February, and he denied the
charges and did not go quietly. He found a new
job as a supply clerk August first. Back to his arrest, though,
detectives discovered Chicaitillo's theft investigation, which gave them legal right
(04:31):
to hold him for a prolonged period of time. Chikatillo's
suspect background and his physical descriptions matching the description of
the man seen walking along with Dmitri Patimov Tashanov prayer
to the boy's death really helped Chickatillo's blood was taken.
The result put to him as a Type A blood type. However,
(04:52):
Siemens samples found on six victims of the Unknown Killer
throughout the spring and summer of eighty four had been
typed as a B. I remember, Umber, this is the
weird dude with the two balls. No, all guys have
two balls. Back to his arrest, detectives discovered Chickatillo's theft investigation,
(05:13):
which is why we brought that up and which actually
gave them the legal right to hold him for a
prolonged period of time. Chickatillo's suspect background and his physical description,
which matched the description of the man scene walking alongside
Dmitri Taskanov prior to the boy's death, really helped. Chickaitillo's
(05:33):
blood was taken. The result put him as a Type
A blood type. However, semen samples found on six victims
of the Unknown Killer throughout the spring and summer of
eighty four had been typed as AB. Chickatillo's name was
added to the card index file used by investigators, alas
his blood type largely discounted him as the unsubbed. I no,
(05:57):
you're right, it wasn't that he had two balls. Is
that this is where we find out that you.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Can have.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Your seamen and your blood type kid can't be different. Yeah,
I assume it's because the semen sample would be not
necessarily stem cell level, but because they're not, they carry,
you know, the genetic markers for both. I mean, granted,
SODA's blood type, but that is a set in stone thing,
whereas semen.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I don't know either. Chickatillo was found guilty of theft
of property from his previous employer. His membership to the
Communist Party was revoked, and he was sentenced to one
year in prison. He was released on December twelfth, nineteen
eighty four, after serving only three months. On October eighth,
nineteen eighty four, the head of the Russian Public Prosecutor's
(06:43):
office formally linked twenty three of Chickatillo's murders to one case.
They dropped all the charges against the mentally disabled youth
that had confessed to the murders previously, and they say
Russians never do anything. Right After release, Chikatilo found work
in a supply department of a locomotive factory in Novochurchnyak
(07:08):
novote I will get this name right by the end,
or I kill you okay, no vote Church cash novochurch
cash close and stayed low. On August first, he killed again.
During a business trip to Moscow. He met eighteen year
old Natalia Polsktinova standing on a railway platform near Domo
(07:32):
Dedovo Airport. Pakalstova was lured off the train into a
secluded wooded area close to the village of Vostryaskova. She
was bound, stabbed thirty eight times in her neck and
chest before strangle. Based on the theory that the killer
flew from Rostov Oblast to Moscow, detectives checked all Aeroflaut,
(07:55):
the largest airline in the Soviet Union, flight records four
passengers from the late July and early August time. This time,
Chikatilla traveled by train and thus no documentation existed for detectives.
Ooh so close. On August twenty seventh, he murdered a
young woman, Arena Gulieva in Shashti. The knife wounds linked
(08:19):
term murder to the unsub of the police had been hunting.
On November eighty five, a special prosecutor, Isa Kostaev Kostoyev
was appointed to supervise the investigation. The squad, which included
fifteen prosecutors and twenty nine detectives, were assigned exclusively onto
(08:39):
the manhunt. The known murders linked to the manhunt were reinvestigated.
Another round of questioning the sex fenders and homosexuals came next.
The following month, the Milistiava Russian Police Force resumed patrolling
railways and undercover female officers loitered around bus and train station.
(09:00):
At the request of Berkhoff, who was still leading all this,
please consult psychiat the police would consult psychiatrist doctor Alexandre
Puskonowsky a first consultation in a cercular investigation in the USSR. Sorry,
Soviet Union, you don't put USSR. I know NEWSSSR. Whyther
(09:21):
You're not like the Union of Soviet Socialists Russia Republic? Actually,
I think I don't think R stands for Russian, that
does it. I don't know either anymore. Hey, Siri, what
does the USSR stand for? Okay?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I found this on the web for what does the
ass stand for?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Check it out?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
What does the ASSAYS stand? The USSR is the Union
of Soviet Social Republics. See I told you that it
didn't stand for rich. I always thought it did when
I was young. Yeah. All information such as crime scene
photos and medical examiner report was released to Bokananovsky. Once
he had an understanding he would build a psychological profile
(10:07):
of the unsub Sam still did not read the sixty
five page profile. This next section is, however, directly from Wikipedia.
I'll be honest. The profile described the killer as a
reclusive man age between forty five and fifty, who had
endured a painful and isolated childhood, and who was incapable
(10:27):
of flirting or courtship with women. This individual was well educated,
likely to be married and to have fathered children, but
also be a sadist who suffered from impotence and could
achieve sexual arousal and release only by seeing his victims suffer.
This is not how I want to be called out.
I'm sorry, I'm kidding. I'm not married. The murders themselves
(10:50):
were an analog to the sexual intercourse this individual was
incapable of performing, and his knife became a substitute for
a penis, which failed to function normally. Because many of
the killings had occurred on week days near mass transport
hubs and across the entire Rostov obloc. It was also
(11:12):
argued that the killer's work required them to travel regularly,
and based upon the actual days of the week when
the killings had occurred, the killer was most likely tied
to a production schedule. See, that's always some things that
I think is really cool, and I think we could
totally do. Aware in the world is Carmen San Diego,
except based on serial killers, not directly, you know, I
(11:36):
could see what you're saying. It would be interesting and
I kind of do that now, I know, And it's
a game that everyone would like and I know how
to program. Now we just need art style keep it
the cartoony of the original really freak people out. Yeah,
I totally do that because I'm cheap, so would I. Actually,
(11:57):
that would be really cool. You start the level next.
Chikatilo followed the newspapers religiously, getting as much information of
his crimes as he could. This allowed him to keep
his homicidal urges under control for almost a year. Following
the August eighty five murder of Goloveva, no killings were
discovered in Rostov or Moscow. Oblasts matching the signature mutilations
(12:21):
of the unknown murderer. Investigators tentatively linked the murder of
thirty three year old Lupyov Golovanka two said murderer. She
was found stabbed to death in She was found stabbed
to death in Miyatschnovsky distresk of Rostov And July twenty third,
nineteen eighty six. The Siemen tite matched the unsub She
(12:44):
was naked prior to her murder, and she was stabbed
over twenty times. She was not dismembered or mutilated, nor
was she seen near mass transportation. Because of these discrepancies,
most investigators doubted whether her murder was their unsuck. However,
(13:05):
that is what we're going to wrap up for today.
Oh Christ, and now we're only on page twenty three.
Mark you stopped. Uh yeah, so we're just in the depth.
They're actually getting kind of closer to them. However, we're
halfway done with the script that Sam wrote, so it's
not that close yet. Nope, I went deep for him
(13:26):
that it sounds so wrong. Are we just not doing
freezing anymore? All right? Ended up? I'm a J. Carrey
and I'm Sam ROSSI see you next time.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Wait the lucky land slots.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You can get lucky just about anywhere.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
This is your captain speaking. We've got clear runway and
the weather's fine, but we're just gonna circle up here
a while and get lucky. No, no, nothing like that.
It's just these cash prizes add up quick, so I
suggest you sit back, keep your trade table upright, and
start getting lucky.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
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Are you feeling lucky? No purchase necessary.
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Time travel to fun in the sixteenth century at the
Maryland Renaissance Festival ten stages, food pubs, shopping, jousting Saturday,
Sundays and Labor Day Monday through October twentieth. Tickets only
online at Marylynd Renaissance Festival dot com Say big on
admission through September.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Eighth, Ryan Seacrest here. When you have a busy schedule,
it's important to maximize your downtime. One of the best
ways to do that is by going to Chumbuckcasino dot com.
Chumpback Casino has all your favorite social casino games like spin, slots, bingo,
and Solitaire that you can play for free for a
chance to redeem some serious prizes. So hop on to
Chumbuck Casino dot com now and live the Chumba life
(00:37):
sponsored by Chumpa Casino. No purchase necessary VGW group void.
We're prohibited by Law eighteen plus. Terms and conditions apply.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Hello and welcome to Try five on part four of
opening the episode or episodes, depending on how you want
to view it of Overkilling fifteen minutes on Andre Chiccatillo,
The Red Ripper of Rostov See Now that's fucking name
That name previously. The police are hot on his trail
(01:07):
and grabbing all the gaze they can to get them
to confess the murders. Uh, he's been killing a lot
of people. Yes he has. And we're only seventeen pages
into a forty five page script. This is gonna be fun.
On August seventh, he lord seventeen year old Ladmina Alexeyeva
(01:29):
Alexeyeva to the banks of the Don River on the
guise of showing her a shortcut. Alexeyeva suffered thirty nine
slash wounds before he mutilated and dismembered her. Oh sorry, sorry,
I misspoke. He disemboweled her, and they wonder why these
(01:49):
aren't as funny as the regular killing. Fifteen's intentionally inflicting
wounds he knew would not kill her body was found
the next morning. Hours after Alexeyeva's murder, Chikatillo flew to
the Uzbek capital, Tashkent on a business trip. By his
return on August fifteenth, he had murdered an unidentified young
(02:12):
woman and a ten year old Akmaral seedyol Nieva. Again,
I'm terribly sorry about name pronunciations. Within two weeks, the
nude body of eleven year old Alexander Cheppel was found
on the banks of the Don River, strangled, castrated, with
his eyes gouged out, and just yards from Alexeyev's body
(02:34):
had been found where and just yards from where Alexeyeva's
body had been found. On September sixth, Chikatillo murdered a
young librarian, twenty four year old Irena Luchinskaya, in the
Park of Aviators. I'm assuming that the Park of Aviators
(02:56):
is one of his major dumps at this stage anyways,
just like by the Don River, and you know. On
September thirteenth, nineteen eighty four, he was observed by two
plane closed officers attempting to talk to young women at
a Rostov bus station. The detectives followed. I remember this
guy now because this is the part in the thing
that made me really fucking really I think. On September thirteen,
(03:22):
nineteen eighty four, he was observed by two plane closed
officers attempting to talk to young women at a Rostov
bus station. The detectives following him as he wandered through
the city trying to talk to women and committing acts
of pretherism. Ah frothing that would be when you're rubbing
yourself against non consenting women for sexual pleasure, or what
(03:45):
most women go through when they go to a nightclub.
Upon Chikatila's arrival at the City Central Market, he was
arrested and held a search found a knife with a
twenty centimeter that would be seven point nine inches for
you people who think size matters, blade, several lengths of rope,
and a jar of vaseline. In the summer of nineteen
eighty four, Chikatillo was fired from his job as a
(04:08):
supply clerk for theft of two rolls of linoleum. The
accusation had been filed in February, and he denied the
charges and did not go quietly. He found a new
job as a supply clerk August first. Back to his arrest, though,
detectives discovered Chicaitillo's theft investigation, which gave them legal right
(04:31):
to hold him for a prolonged period of time. Chikatillo's
suspect background and his physical descriptions matching the description of
the man seen walking along with Dmitri Patimov Tashanov prayer
to the boy's death really helped Chickatillo's blood was taken.
The result put to him as a Type A blood type. However,
(04:52):
Siemens samples found on six victims of the Unknown Killer
throughout the spring and summer of eighty four had been
typed as a B. I remember, Umber, this is the
weird dude with the two balls. No, all guys have
two balls. Back to his arrest, detectives discovered Chickatillo's theft investigation,
(05:13):
which is why we brought that up and which actually
gave them the legal right to hold him for a
prolonged period of time. Chickatillo's suspect background and his physical description,
which matched the description of the man scene walking alongside
Dmitri Taskanov prior to the boy's death, really helped. Chickaitillo's
(05:33):
blood was taken. The result put him as a Type
A blood type. However, semen samples found on six victims
of the Unknown Killer throughout the spring and summer of
eighty four had been typed as AB. Chickatillo's name was
added to the card index file used by investigators, alas
his blood type largely discounted him as the unsubbed. I no,
(05:57):
you're right, it wasn't that he had two balls. Is
that this is where we find out that you.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Can have.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Your seamen and your blood type kid can't be different. Yeah,
I assume it's because the semen sample would be not
necessarily stem cell level, but because they're not, they carry,
you know, the genetic markers for both. I mean, granted,
SODA's blood type, but that is a set in stone thing,
whereas semen.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I don't know either. Chickatillo was found guilty of theft
of property from his previous employer. His membership to the
Communist Party was revoked, and he was sentenced to one
year in prison. He was released on December twelfth, nineteen
eighty four, after serving only three months. On October eighth,
nineteen eighty four, the head of the Russian Public Prosecutor's
(06:43):
office formally linked twenty three of Chickatillo's murders to one case.
They dropped all the charges against the mentally disabled youth
that had confessed to the murders previously, and they say
Russians never do anything. Right After release, Chikatilo found work
in a supply department of a locomotive factory in Novochurchnyak
(07:08):
novote I will get this name right by the end,
or I kill you okay, no vote Church cash novochurch
cash close and stayed low. On August first, he killed again.
During a business trip to Moscow. He met eighteen year
old Natalia Polsktinova standing on a railway platform near Domo
(07:32):
Dedovo Airport. Pakalstova was lured off the train into a
secluded wooded area close to the village of Vostryaskova. She
was bound, stabbed thirty eight times in her neck and
chest before strangle. Based on the theory that the killer
flew from Rostov Oblast to Moscow, detectives checked all Aeroflaut,
(07:55):
the largest airline in the Soviet Union, flight records four
passengers from the late July and early August time. This time,
Chikatilla traveled by train and thus no documentation existed for detectives.
Ooh so close. On August twenty seventh, he murdered a
young woman, Arena Gulieva in Shashti. The knife wounds linked
(08:19):
term murder to the unsub of the police had been hunting.
On November eighty five, a special prosecutor, Isa Kostaev Kostoyev
was appointed to supervise the investigation. The squad, which included
fifteen prosecutors and twenty nine detectives, were assigned exclusively onto
(08:39):
the manhunt. The known murders linked to the manhunt were reinvestigated.
Another round of questioning the sex fenders and homosexuals came next.
The following month, the Milistiava Russian Police Force resumed patrolling
railways and undercover female officers loitered around bus and train station.
(09:00):
At the request of Berkhoff, who was still leading all this,
please consult psychiat the police would consult psychiatrist doctor Alexandre
Puskonowsky a first consultation in a cercular investigation in the USSR. Sorry,
Soviet Union, you don't put USSR. I know NEWSSSR. Whyther
(09:21):
You're not like the Union of Soviet Socialists Russia Republic? Actually,
I think I don't think R stands for Russian, that
does it. I don't know either anymore. Hey, Siri, what
does the USSR stand for? Okay?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I found this on the web for what does the
ass stand for?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Check it out?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
What does the ASSAYS stand? The USSR is the Union
of Soviet Social Republics. See I told you that it
didn't stand for rich. I always thought it did when
I was young. Yeah. All information such as crime scene
photos and medical examiner report was released to Bokananovsky. Once
he had an understanding he would build a psychological profile
(10:07):
of the unsub Sam still did not read the sixty
five page profile. This next section is, however, directly from Wikipedia.
I'll be honest. The profile described the killer as a
reclusive man age between forty five and fifty, who had
endured a painful and isolated childhood, and who was incapable
(10:27):
of flirting or courtship with women. This individual was well educated,
likely to be married and to have fathered children, but
also be a sadist who suffered from impotence and could
achieve sexual arousal and release only by seeing his victims suffer.
This is not how I want to be called out.
I'm sorry, I'm kidding. I'm not married. The murders themselves
(10:50):
were an analog to the sexual intercourse this individual was
incapable of performing, and his knife became a substitute for
a penis, which failed to function normally. Because many of
the killings had occurred on week days near mass transport
hubs and across the entire Rostov obloc. It was also
(11:12):
argued that the killer's work required them to travel regularly,
and based upon the actual days of the week when
the killings had occurred, the killer was most likely tied
to a production schedule. See, that's always some things that
I think is really cool, and I think we could
totally do. Aware in the world is Carmen San Diego,
except based on serial killers, not directly, you know, I
(11:36):
could see what you're saying. It would be interesting and
I kind of do that now, I know, And it's
a game that everyone would like and I know how
to program. Now we just need art style keep it
the cartoony of the original really freak people out. Yeah,
I totally do that because I'm cheap, so would I. Actually,
(11:57):
that would be really cool. You start the level next.
Chikatilo followed the newspapers religiously, getting as much information of
his crimes as he could. This allowed him to keep
his homicidal urges under control for almost a year. Following
the August eighty five murder of Goloveva, no killings were
discovered in Rostov or Moscow. Oblasts matching the signature mutilations
(12:21):
of the unknown murderer. Investigators tentatively linked the murder of
thirty three year old Lupyov Golovanka two said murderer. She
was found stabbed to death in She was found stabbed
to death in Miyatschnovsky distresk of Rostov And July twenty third,
nineteen eighty six. The Siemen tite matched the unsub She
(12:44):
was naked prior to her murder, and she was stabbed
over twenty times. She was not dismembered or mutilated, nor
was she seen near mass transportation. Because of these discrepancies,
most investigators doubted whether her murder was their unsuck. However,
(13:05):
that is what we're going to wrap up for today.
Oh Christ, and now we're only on page twenty three.
Mark you stopped. Uh yeah, so we're just in the depth.
They're actually getting kind of closer to them. However, we're
halfway done with the script that Sam wrote, so it's
not that close yet. Nope, I went deep for him
(13:26):
that it sounds so wrong. Are we just not doing
freezing anymore? All right? Ended up? I'm a J. Carrey
and I'm Sam ROSSI see you next time.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Wait the lucky land slots.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You can get lucky just about anywhere.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
This is your captain speaking. We've got clear runway and
the weather's fine, but we're just gonna circle up here
a while and get lucky. No, no, nothing like that.
It's just these cash prizes add up quick, so I
suggest you sit back, keep your trade table upright, and
start getting lucky.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Play for free at lucky landslide dot com.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Are you feeling lucky? No purchase necessary.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Vgw G void were prohibited by Law eighteen plus Terms
and conditions apply
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