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That's multiple views for us.
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Speaker 5 (03:57):
If we wearing up more information. If you are a
serial killer, please let us know. Feels like being evidence
might actually be cool. Yeah, so anyways. Peter Sutcliffe Peter
Sutcliffe Peter Sutcliffe was an English zerial killer during the
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nineteen seventies, given the name the Yorkshire Ripper due to
his brutal methods. And again, if you've listened to our
previous episode, then you.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Generally have an overview if you want to hear more
of the grizzly details.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
That's what this is.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It really is.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Sutcliffe was born June second, nineteen forty six, to a
working class family in Bingley West, Riding of Yorkshire.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
God I hate British names. They're long winded. Well it's
always you know Cummerbatch on the Nile in west Ham.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Anyways, his mother was Roman Catholic and his father was
an Anglican. What exactly he is a Banglican when it
comes to like, I don't know. The children would be
raised Catholic, with Sutcliffe serving as an altar boy. His father, however,
like many serial killers, was an abusive alcoholic, or as
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like many serial killers' parents, there's usually an abusive alcoholic
in there. In his late adolescence, Sutcliffe developed an obsession
with voyeurism and spent his time spying on prostitutes and
their johns.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Me too, Suckcliffe, me too. I'm kidding.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
For the love of God, I'm kidding, not about the voyeurism.
I just never watched prostitutes going at it with their johns. Hey,
there's something we should really not talk about on air.
He left school at fifteen and had a series of
menial jobs, including two stints as a grave digger in
the sixties cool. Between November seventy one and April seventy three,
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he worked at Baird Television Factory on the packaging line.
He would leave when asked to become an on the
road salesman.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I mean it's fair if he doesn't want to go out.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
I mean. In April seventy three he worked nights at
the Britannia works of Anderton International. In February seventy five
he resigned voluntarily and took the pay to take heavy
track heavy truck training. On March fifth, nineteen seventy six,
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he was fired for a theft of youthed tires.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
Yep, he gets another driving job in October of seventy six.
Suckcliffe met Sonia Sir Zerma. Suckcliffe met Sonia Zerma, a
sixteen year old Czech refugee, on February fourteenth six, nineteen
sixty seven, at a pub in Bradford's Red Light district.
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They married August teh month of seventy four. Wow, so
they dated for like seven years. Cool neat Sonya was
diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. She would then become a teacher
in seventy seven.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Medication fair enough. Our grandmother was the sitzophranic great grandmother,
and our mother's on antipsychotics. No, she's only an antidepressants.
I'm on the antipsychotics. Oh and I'm on nothing. I'm unmedicated.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Suckliffe reportedly hired prostitutes as a young man. I'm assuming
as a young man he would hire prostitutes. Yes, not
hired prostitutes as young men. Well, you know what, you
know what whatever floats his boat. I mean, granted, we
know how this story ends, so maybe it's not whatever
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floats his boat. It had been speculated that he would
watch the women work the streets of Leeds and Bradford.
In nineteen sixty nine, Sutcliff would assault a female prostitute
whom he met while looking for another woman who tricked
him out of money. He told his friend Trevor Birdsall
that he followed a sex worker into a garage and
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hit her over the head with a stone.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
In a sock.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Police visited Sutcliffe's home the next day as the women
he attacked as the woman he attacked had noted a
Birdsall's as the woman he attacked had noted Birdsall's registration plate.
He admitted that he had hit her, but with his hand.
The police told him that he was lucky as the
woman was not pressing charges. I'm assuming as a prostitute.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
It would have it was I believe legal in the
seventies at that point.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
I don't think so, because if I recall, the seventies
and eighties was when a lot of smuts started rising
because of a swing in republican or judicitional a list
conservative views in a in the UK, it's actually where
the rise of snuff films came out because porn, in
any porn was illegal, so even the normal smut you
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couldn't get fun.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Fact interesting.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
It's also why there was a stereotype for like German
porn being overly extreme, because to get porn you would
have to pretty much smuggle it into the country.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Interesting.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Okay, what's even more interesting is you know why technical
porn in uh Asia is so popular. Why because for
a similar conservative viewpoint, malet a penist penetrating of vagina or.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Head or anything like that, right, penis penetrating ahead I
head bjs anyways, and even old fashions all of that
deemed you know, inappropriate.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So so artists to get around that, you know, smut
peddlers to get around this went with tentacles because it
would it would it was a.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Loophole in the law.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
It's also why.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
A lot of you know, even considered normal manga, yeah,
and art could show nudity, but they could not. They
would have to blur like even now you can even now,
you know, if you look up Japanese porn on you know,
pornhub or something, ninety percent of it has the pixelation yep,
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because of a similar thing. None of this matters to
Peter Sutcliffe. But this is why these are the overkillings,
because it's also oversharing.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
But the more you know, In.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Fact, there was actually something that we talked about on
Red Light Renegades fucking six years ago, which is actually
how I know it because I actually reviewed a comic
or for Aftershock when I was doing a comic a
day called Second Sight, which was set in the seventies
or eighties.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
About a smut tape and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
So it was one of those once you learn about it,
it's like, let's see how far this rabbit hole goes.
But this is not Peter Suckcliffe. Uh, he was saw
a woman, not fresh Chargers, Okay. On July fifth, nineteen
seventy five, in Kaylee, Sutcliffe attacked Anna Rogolski, striking her
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unconscious with a hammer and slashing her stomach with a knife.
Disturbed by a neighbor, he left without killing her. Well,
Joelski did survive after brain surgery and was traumatized by
the attack. Obviously.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Ops.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
On the night of August fifteenth, Cucliff attacked Olive Smelt
in Haliford, Halifax, Halifax, Halifax. Okay, well that's not an
that that that's a shitty ax, following his plan of
engaging Smelt with pleasant trees. Pleasant trees has an ie,
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not a y. I'm sorry, apparently we're going back to this.
This is our very first episode, so clearly I have
to be pedantic about your spelling.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Its donor.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Before striking hammer blows to her skull, he then moved
her clothing and slashed her lower back. That's weird again,
he was What I say is weird is that so
he struck her with the hammer, struck her with the hammer,
struck her with the hammer, and then actually because and
then actually had to move her clothes to cut her
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lower back.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yep, that's fun.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Weird because see it's one thing like you know, he
slashed he slashed the one woman's stomach right because I
assumed the way you wrote wrote it, and I'm assuming
how it was explained. Was he hit her and then
went to cut her, Yes, whereas this shows a premeditation
or not a premeditation, but a I hit her, I
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don't have to cut the skin, not just the clothes,
not even just that. I'm not cutting her in a
I'm being violent. Now there is a thought behind it.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Again, he wasn't interrupted and left her badly injured, but
she would also survive. Smell would tell Detective Superintendent Dick
Holland that her attacker had a Yorkshire accent. However, she
had been ignored. I'm assuming she was a sex worker
as well.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
No she was not. Oh well then it was just
simple misogyny of.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Hey, whoka is about the Actually, I don't know what
a yolkshi accents sounds like.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
This is more Australian.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
On August twenty seventh, he attacked Tracy Brown in Silsden
from behind, hitting her over the head five times. I'm
assuming with a hammer or a rock or something with
the hammer okay. As she was walking down a country lane.
He ran off when he saw the lights of a
passing car, leaving Brown to require surgery. Sutcliffe was not
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convicted for this attack, but did confess in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I'm assuming after he was caught he was caught. Brown
later said that she was charmed by Sugcliffe.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
We had walked together for almost a mile for about
thirty minutes, and I never once felt intimidated or in danger.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Wait, so this is oh I should keep reading?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
No no, no, no, no, no, you keep going, but
wrap it up for the first place.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Okay, well we're gonna end after I point out that.
So he had to confess that he attacked her.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Yep, but apparently they were walking down this country lane
for like thirty minutes. Yeah, and she didn't go, Hey,
the guy I was talking to fucking's the one who
hit me over the head. No she did, Oh, okay, but.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
What she said before he attacked her, she didn't feel
any intimidation.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
It felt very okay.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
I thought that that was like Brown later said, So
after he confessed, is when she's like, oh, he's.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
The dude who attacked me. No, okay, no, she they
just did not Okay, they didn't know his name. I'm
assuming she didn't know it or anything.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Like that. Okay, Now that was the end of part one. Onward, well,
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