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February 13, 2024 • 16 mins
]This episode delves into the heinous crimes of Peter Sutcliffe, exploring the details of his attacks, the police investigation, and the challenges faced in tracing his actions. The conversation highlights the psychological aspects of Sutcliffe's behavior, the impact of hoaxes on the investigation, and the broader implications of his crimes on society.
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Hi there, neighbor.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
We're on part three of Peter Sutcliffe for the new
Overkilling fifteen minutes show.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm a J. Carrey and I will now talk like
this for the rest of forever. I won't be excellent.
It's my field.

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Uh no, my Gomer Pile sounds like this.

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To go back? Little shot of King's falls for you.
So anyways, Hi, welcome back. We're on part three. If
you have no idea what overkilling is at this stage,
go and listen to the other two parts. Today we
are talking about Peter Sutcliffe. We're continuing our talk on
Peter Sutcliffe.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm aj Carrey and I'm Sam Rossi and we'll.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Be interjecting as I read this script, this overly long script. Yeah,
well that's why it's overkilling am. On October one, Peter
Sutcliffe murdered Jean Jordan, a prostitute from Manchester. Suckcliffe picked
Jordan up in the area of Moss Side. When they
arrived at Princess Road near Southern Cemetery, Suckcliffe attacked, hitting

(02:22):
Jordan over ten times. I'm assuming in the head with
the hammer because that's what he do, that's what he do.
And then how many times did he Stayath in a
later In a later interview, Suckcliffe said he had realized
the new five pound note he had given Jordan was
in fact traceable.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I didn't know that. Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
After hosting a family party at his new house, he
returned to the wasteland behind Southern Cemetery, but he was
unable to find the note.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
I did not know that they actually came out with
U because this was in seventy seven. I didn't know
that they were doing traceable money unless he was talking
about something like my fingerprints were on it or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Nope, nope, Do we go further into the note?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, there it is.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
That is actually a plot point.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
That is a plot point right now.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
On October ninth, Jordan's body was found by local dairy
workers and actor Bruce Jones. He's a British actor, as
this is in Britain.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Okay, well, he's a British actor. I knew that did
a lot of different things. Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, you actually know some of his CV what is
it long show on Coronation Street?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yes, yes, that's it.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Well, he had an allotment on the land joining the
site and was searching for bricks when he made the discovery.
The five found note that has previously discussed was hidden
in a secret compartment in Jordan's handbag and was traced
to branches of the Midland Bank in Shipley and Bingley. Okay,
so that's how it was traceable. It was I'm assuming

(04:08):
it was just because they.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Had they it was a new note.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
So they were able to be like we know that
Bingley got new notes or the serial numbers.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
The serial numbers, and these serial numbers have been handed out.
They were handed out at X amount of time.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's neat. Well, you got it.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
They're probably much more organized back in the seventies when
I had to do with money than they are now.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Well, I mean, now, if they released a new note,
I would assume that there's some form of traceability to it,
at least in the initial stages.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Maybe, But because cash has become less less viable, like
so much more people are dealing with the digital currencies.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Correct, So I guess it would actually be easier to
trace now, But at the same time hard as fucked
to trace, right, because you know, people will throw at
ten dollar built down or they give it back to
the bank, like it's so much easier for you know, banking.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Our
economy sucks. Yep.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
We're called like it's called the quiet Depression because we're
quietly going through this instead of the Great Depression.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, they're sort of the thing that I also talked about,
the global recession. It wasn't a recession. We officially hit
a depression like a global scale.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Because you got to think, if one country has a
recession but every other country is doing fine, that would
be something fixable, you know. But if everyone's going through
a recession, then that is a global issue.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
And that global economy that people think that we really have.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
We do have a very global economy. We do. Anyways, Sorry,
that has nothing to do with the seventies.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well because like five recessions since the seventies and then anyways,
analysis of bank operations allowed them to narrow their inquiry
to eight thousand employees who could have received the note
in their wage packet. Over three months, police interviewed five
thousand men, including Sutcliffe. The police found the alibi given

(06:16):
was credible, with him being at the family party. Spoilers, No,
I think that was still in this one right, Yes,
because this is about the Jordan thing, Yes, where he
found Yeah, because I was gonna say, crap, if was
that in the last part. Anyways, weeks of intest investigations
pertaining to the origin of a five pound note led nowhere,

(06:39):
leaving police frustrated because you also got to think, even
if you're tracing one single note, you know, hypothetically Sutcliffe
had it, he could have easily given it to a
convenience store operator, right, and then that convenience store operator
put gives it as changed to the next person.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Right then that person gets a hooker. It's possible, you
know what I mean. It's one of those.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Things where it is always but it is harder to trace,
especially a smaller bill like a five pound note I
believe is roughly still five dollars around this time, if
I remember rightly the pound and the US currency, it's
like one or one point you know, one to one
point five or.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Something like that, something like that.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
So it's still, you know, a small enough bill that
it's like it could literally do anything, versus like having
one hundred dollars bill.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Then it's like a little harder.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Right on December fourteenth, Sutcliffe assaulted Marilyn Moore, also a prostitute,
in the back of his car on waste ground on
a waste ground in scott Hall Leads. While delivering a blow,
Sutcliffe lost his balance, allowing more to escape. The tracks

(07:55):
found at the scene matched those found at an earlier attack.
The sketch resulted in a strong resemblance to Sutcliffe and
had those from other survivors and more provided a good
description of the car, which had been seen in red
light districts. Suckcliffe was then interviewed again.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
There's a star next to this one.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
That's where I thought we would be for part one.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh, so this might be a little bit longer. Yes.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
The police stopped looking for the person who received the
five pound note in January seventy eight. Although Sutcliffe was
interviewed about the matter, he was not investigated further and
was disregarded by the Ripper squad for further occasions. On
January twenty one, Sutcliffe then killed Yvonne Pearson, a prostitute

(08:47):
from Bradford. He bludgeoned her with a balpeen hammer, then
jumped on her chest before stuffing horsehair into her mouth
from a discarded sofa under which her body was hidden
near lumb Lane. Lumb Lane, Like sure, that's not supposed
to be like Lamb Lane or something.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Now is lumb Ay? It's lumb Lane.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
On January thirty fourth, Elena Raika, a prostitute from huddards Field,
was attacked with a hammer and she left her vehicle. Oh,
as she left his vehicle before stabbing her in the chest.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I'm assuming you left out.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
That Cuckcliffe had hired her, or that Suckcliffe was anywhere
near her.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
This is a surprising here's the surprising sentence.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
On January thirty first, Eleanor Ripke, a prostitute from huddards Field,
was attacked with a hammer as she left his car
before stabbing her in the chest.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah, that was all Cucliffe, That
was all Cycliff.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Everyone heard that her body was found three days later
beneath the railway to Arches on Garrard's timber Yard in
Garards timber Yard, where he drove her.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
To after he killed her.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Suckcliffe said of Rydke while in police custody in eighty one,
I had the urge to kill any woman, the urgent
inside me to kill girls was now practically uncontrollable. That
brings us to Vera Millward, who was a prostitute who
left home to get cigarette in chortum On Meldrep in

(10:24):
chortlet On Medlick. Around ten pm on May sixteenth, nineteen
seventy eight, Suckcliffe picked up Millward and when she exited
the car he attacked her with a hammer. After she died,
he dragged her body to a fence and stabbed her
repeatedly with a knife. On April fourth, nineteen seventy nine,
Suckcliffe killed Josephine Whittick, a clerk walking on several park

(10:51):
more in Halifax, West Yorkshire, hid from behind with a
ballpeen hammer and then hit again once down. Suckcliffe and
then stabbed her twenty one times with a knife in
her chest, six times in her right leg, before leaving
the knife inside of her. Sam thinks this is where
he became a Sickoh. Whittick's skull was fractured ear to ear.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Yeah, he did a sixth thing with the knife.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
He did it.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Oh, he Glasgow smiled her. No, the sixth the sick
thing with a knife.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
He left the knife inside of her. It was a
sick place. Oh, that's not he left like that was not.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
He stabbed her six times in the right leg before
leaving the knife inside her right leg.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Right, he left the knife inside of her. Yes, her, No,
no square, I've ever heard of comb Yes, you've never
heard that.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
I probably have years ago, years.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Because it was it was a stupid thing. He can't
touch me, that is no square. Also, don't stab me there,
you're sick. Fuck Sorry, thank you for clarifying that. That
sick fucking puppy.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
By the way, first fun fact, and this is originally
before this was called killing fifteen minutes, Sam had a
laundry list of names, sick one of them. In fact,
the very first script that Sam wrote, the first Suckcliffe
I believe it was Sutcliffe was the very first line

(12:26):
was Peter Sutcliffe was a sick motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I believe so.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yes, that was the first line of the very first
script for Peter Sutcliffe.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
You're either Suncliff or Curtain, whichever one you wrote first.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I wrote Curtain first.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Okay, then it was Curtain who was the first sick puppy.
So anyways, despite forensic evidence, police got distracted by a
taped message from the supposed murderer, taunting Assistant Chief Constable
George Oldfield of the West Yorkshire Police, who was the
lead investigator. The tape contained a man's voice saying I'm Jack.

(13:01):
I see you are having no luck catching me. I
have the greatest respect for you, George, but lord, you're
no nearer catching me. Now then four years ago when
I started or something similar very similar. Based on the message,
police began searching for a man with a a we're
aware side accent, which linguished narrowed down to the Castletown

(13:24):
area of Sunderland, ten and where the hoaxer dubbed wordside.
Jack sent two letters to the police and the Daily
Mirror in March of nineteen seventy eight, boasting of his crime.
The letter signed Jack the Ripper. Uh oh, that's okay,
never mind, that's a loop from your O or of

(13:46):
your f So it looked like Jack the d ripper
and that Jack the Dripper, which I was really confused.
But he claimed responsibility for the murderer of Joan Harrison
in Preston in November of seventy five. Now does that
ever get followed upon or is this about h It
does follow up? The hoaxer case was reopened in two

(14:15):
thousand and five and DNA was taken from the envelopes
and entered into the national database. A match was made
to John Humble, an unemployed alcoholic and longtime resident of
Forida State in Sunderland, a few miles from Castletown, whose
DNA was taken after a drunken disorderly in two thousand
and one. Humble was charged in October of two thousand
and five attempting to pervert the course of justice for

(14:38):
sending the hoax letter and tape. On March two thousand
and six, he was convicted and sentenced to eight years
in prison. However, he died July thirtieth, twenty nineteen. And
with that little deviation thanks to hoaxes, that is the end.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Of Part three.

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