[Deadline Deal Preview] GROUP THERAPY: Pads Offense is Fish Fry

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to another edition of Podres hot Tub Group Therapy.
This one slightly different. It's the same in that it's
Craig Elston, Chris read Rafeie Kanter all together. It's the
same in that it's being recorded live on our Podres
hot Tub Discord on the Group Therapy stage, where we

(00:21):
have dozens of patrons gathered even on a mid day
lunch hour July twenty third. We've got them here and
they'll be joining us up on the stage as the
hour progresses. So all those things are the same. Something
that's different is that it's kind of a postgame show too,
because I think the regular postgame show with Sammy Levitt

(00:44):
isn't even at the halfway point right now as we
hit record and go live on the discord, So there
is some immediacy to what's happening here today. And also
we still don't have any raids to talk about, just
a lot a lot of more theory and a lot

(01:06):
more angst, and not very many runs. I think we
could spend maybe twenty minutes if we wanted to go
run by run through the series.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, there's not any traces to discuss, but I would
not be surprised if this series has spurred the Padres
and general manager and front office into action, because this
was not as as God, what's uh, I'm gonna get
fucking Clavered for this in the comments? But what's Bruce
Wayne's butler's name as portrayed by Jarvis DRIs No what Alfred?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Alfred?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Thank you alf Look at all these nerds we got
in the comments. Thanks guys. Where would I be without you?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's like when Michael Caine, Alfred says to him, you
know you're not You're the hero that Gotham deserves, but
not the one it needs. Like that was the series
that the Fadre's deserve, but not the one that they needed,
all right, because they were hoisted by their own petard,
you know, on multiple occasions, offense, not showing up, showing

(02:12):
up too late, showing up but not sequencing, and sprinkle
in some you know so so defense in there, and
you're left with the fact that the Marlins scored uh
what is that eight runs in the series and they
won the series and that's just Padre's baseball at twenty

(02:33):
twenty five.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
You don't like that, Chris.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well, the Padres scored seven, so the math checks out
Rayfie the ice cream sandwich I wolfed down after Xander
Bogart's lined out. The right field is hitting pretty hard,
so time is slowing. I feel like Nick Cage in
that convertible meme looking over at Pedro Pascal, just like, uh,

(02:58):
that's what this team has done to me. And yes,
like no, they haven't made any trade moves. They're not
even making roster moves, like aj Preller is sitting in
a bathtub full of ice, maybe without a kidney. I
don't know. It doesn't explain a lot of things about
this team. It doesn't explain how Trenton Brooks is still

(03:20):
a San Diego padre despite having a career line lower
than that of Woody Williams. On the season, he now
dips below the Woody Williams line, has a lower OPS
this season than Woody Williams had in his career. And
by Woody Williams, I mean the starting pitcher, not the

(03:42):
outfielder taking pinch hit at bats in high leverage situations
and tight games when the offense is bad. So I
was asked to do a Trenton Brooks rant I have
now done it. He's definitely not the main prop them
with this team. He is but a symptom. He is

(04:03):
just the one hundred and four degree fever that's presenting
following the infection that has fell upon this Padres offense.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
It's just not gonna be good enough. It's getting polarizing.
And usually when it starts to polarize like this, it's
right before the fall, which is you now have a
pitching staff that is playing the best in the league,
essentially best Bullpenny ra leading the league in shutouts and

(04:42):
doing so even without Michael King and with this doppelganger
version of Dylan Ceese along for the ride. But now
you've got the worst offense, just the worst offense. When
Tatisa is slumping, when Machado is slumping. You can see
even Boguart's getting hot, Merrill's starting to get hot. It

(05:04):
doesn't matter. The bottom of the lineup, combined with the
Stars not hitting, you don't score. And this team is
just locked in right now on under four runs, and
that's unsustainable. That's a last placed offense with a championship
level pitching staff, and it leaves you stuck in the middle,

(05:26):
which is where I think the Potters are going to
be the rest of the season until unless they get
this offense turned around.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah yeah, Fernando. Fernando started the game today with a
closed off stance and by the end of the game
had an opened upstance. You know, we've made a lot
of the leg lift and the leg kick and what's that.
But the point is is the dude is approachless at

(05:55):
the plate, like he is bringing no consistency from played
appearance to play appearance. And much was made about him
talking to his dad and getting on a little bit
of heater after doing that. It's it's just not looking
great for him right now. And the thing is, it's
just so hard to bring him down out of the lineup.

(06:16):
And for all of many Machado's worries about not hitting
the ball this series, his defense was really what cost
them severely. I mean, two bad throws leading to runs
in the first bad throw leading to plural runs, and
then a bad throw today leading to a run. So

(06:37):
hopefully Many gets out of his hometown with the distractions,
and you know, the Padres can leave Miami and put
all this behind us, because it's just ugly and it's listless.
It's like you know, eating too many ice cream sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, sorry, oh, I know, I was just gonna say,
I am glad you brought up Manny's error today, and
he said multiple in the series that you know, it's
easy to say that, well, Manny's error cost us the
game today, which I mean it did.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, well, well, what the point I was going to
make is that the Padres also picked up a run
thanks to a Marlins error. There was a throwback on
Luisa Rise. He was able to scamper the second base,
Buttroto hit him in. And uh if if Luisa Rice
had not been on second base because of the error,
he would not have scored.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
And so the point that.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I was going to make is that the Marlins give
us a gift, and the good teams when they're given
extra outs, they take advantage, and the Padres did that.
But good teams also don't give teams extra outs, and
the Padres have been victim of that. And we should
also say we said it coming in, Craig, you were
really I'm glad you hit on this point when we
were coming to the series. The Marlins are playing good

(08:00):
baseball right now. These aren't these are these are not
the scrubby Marlins, at least in the last month or
so that we are used to. That is a legit
pitching staff that they have on that team. That starting
rotation is unbelievable. And when you get good Santi al
Contra today, which like we can talk about the Padres
approach because he only threw seventy seven pitches through six innings,

(08:22):
so he was going into the seventh inning like with
a lot of gas left in the tank. But when
you get good santial Contra, and you add that to
Edward Cabrera and some of the other guys that they
have on that team, like they have a legit staff,
but you know you can't give them any assistance. If
you give them assistance, they're going to take advantage of it.
And the Padres both in their approach with the plate

(08:43):
and on defense giving them Marlins a lot of help
in the series.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I was looking for a stat earlier that had been
distracted because I had seen it, but I wanted to
make sure I got it right with today's performance where
the Padres got two runs San Diego. This year, in
fifty percent of their games, fifty one out of one

(09:08):
hundred and two have scored three runs or fewer huh
fifty one of one two. That is a screaming siren. Hey,
side story, side story, dropped off the kid at swim

(09:30):
practice yesterday afternoon. Went to this place, Burning Beard Brewery
that's got a nice little kitchen attached to it to
watch the game, set up my iPad, sat down, watched
the game. Right, They've got this back area by the
kitchen to watch the game where I could set up
to do that. Doors a little bit open across the
way as some industrial building. All of a sudden, this

(09:51):
siren starts going off. Shelter in place immediately, Shelter in
place immediately, deep deep, shelter in place immediately. And then
it turns into evacuate the building. Immediately, evacuate the building immediately.

(10:11):
And I'm like, is anyone hearing this? No one, me,
no one. I'm gonna go ahead and take this to go.
I'll see you later, and I left. That's what I'm
thinking about. The offense is completely failing this team. Evacuate
the offense. Immediately, Evacuate this offense promptly, or else suffer

(10:32):
the consequences. I'm telling you, Uh, this is a screaming
cry for help. The team will fall if this continues.
I don't know if one back bat can fix it.
I don't know, because Tatise is drowning again. But Hiado

(10:53):
kept hitting it to the wall all series, like high
fly of all that one. Nope, Oh, con on the morning.
Miami's a tough place to hit. But that's a loss.
In a losing to a quote unquote losing team, it
might get flipped around, Marlins might finish with a winning record.
And this one will be added after the fact to

(11:15):
the Oh, the Padres couldn't beat winning teams, but hey,
eight runs allowed, you should sweep the series. This team,
you should sweep that series. The Padres lost two out
of three because yeah, Uri Perez is good, Edward Caprera
is good. Come on, our count came in with a
seventy ra A and a whip over one four.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Sure, sure, but that's not the guy who was on
the hill today, Like Sandy Alcntra when he's gotten shelled
this season has left fastballs right down the middle that
barely moved. And that wasn't the guy they saw today.
You know, Sandy All Sandy al Cantata is gonna be
a top three trade piece this thing and he's talking

(12:00):
about that way for a reason. He's coming back from surgery,
had no minor league thing as they talked about, no
minor league appearances, as they talked about in the broadcast.
You know, he's Sandy al Contra and rough first half aside,
he's a guy that is formidable. And when whatever they

(12:21):
call their ballpark, loan depot park, whatever, is playing the
way it was the series, you know, how many balls
do we see die on the track for both squads.
It makes it all the more tough. But you know,
not tipping my ap to Sandy, But he wasn't the
guy with the seven era, just like Dylan wasn't necessary

(12:42):
the guy with the five and a half six era. Today.
You know, he looked sharp for the bulk of his
appearance today, minus one really bad at bat where he
hung a breaking ball right over the plate for the
guy who was selling out for pull power.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I get it, but the Podres have allowed more quality
starts against than all but two teams in Major League Baseball.
So both the good pitcher who's struggling and the young
unknown and the in between veteran and if the Royals

(13:21):
were next on the on the schedule, it would be
Dick fucking Mountain that would go out there and pitch
six innings and give up one run unearned against the Podres,
and we'd go, oh, well, you have to tip your cap. Wow.
Watch that age forty five. He was wheeling and dealing.
The Podres can't hit. They don't have enough offense to

(13:43):
get the job done, and they've got enough pitching to
get the job done. And so you can look at
this either way you want. I want to look at
it this way. Make the offense better, Yeah, make the
offense better. You don't have to make it that much better.
Put an extra run on the board, and this team

(14:06):
can go right to the top of the list in
the National League. If you don't make anything else that
much worse and you make the offense better, this team
can go places. And that's gonna leave me. The next thing.
I want it Because they keep writing about buy and sell,
buy and sell. The Pires are going to buy and sell.

(14:30):
I would like them to be bold in the way
they buy and sell. Like if you've got somebody that's
asking for pitching out there, a Ryan Berger, I don't
want to trade a Ryan Berger.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Noel sees.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
They can't do that.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Drag.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
They can't do that.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
They're gonna need thoseings later on, they're gonna need This
is the time they yeah, a month ago, it's true.
A month ago, it's true. But now you can count
the starts. Now you can count the start. It's never
been true. He's bad.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
He's not a good pitcher, he's bad.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
To rid of him, it was it only helling cal
I was hearing the rate on a radio station, a
popular morning show this morning that there was a report
out there that the Padres haven't said no when some
teams have inquired about Dylan sees right now, the equation is,
in my opinion, the equation is down right now to

(15:37):
could Ryan Berger pitch to the equivalent of a guy
that's three and ten with a four point eight era
the rest of the year. Could he pitch to that level?
Because if he can pitch to that level in Michael
King's coming back, then move him, move his ass. It's
ten starts. I'd much rather move him then move anything

(16:01):
that impacts twenty twenty six and beyond a La cronin
Worth a lah Estrada. I don't want to move those guys.
Those guys are still part of a good Padres team
going forward. Cease is gone at the end of the year,
so make him gone at the end of the week,
you know, and get out from under this terrible, middling performance. Again,

(16:23):
we're gonna apologize for his five innings and three runs
allowed today. I thought he was an ace. I thought
he was Corbyn Burns. I thought he was a two
hundred million dollar pitcher. This guy is a bellyitcher for
that kind of money. I'm sorry, he's not dominant. He
took the ball in a game with a chance to
take a series on the road against a low scoring team,

(16:44):
and he walked off losing. You know, five innings, five innings,
three runs, gave up a homer, you know, walk two
in the first inning, gave up a two out hit
that put his team behind. Like, I'm sorry, you know,
I am completely fine with betting that the Padres with

(17:06):
King back. That's important with King coming back, that they
can match Cesar's performance with whoever they have.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I have been told so many times that the ship
is sailed, but once again, you guys prove that you
don't know boats.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
But at all.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
At varying times, all three of us have mentioned the
exact teams that are mentioned in this tweets the Mets Rafie.
You brought it up in an episode that you know
you could look to target Brandon Sprote from the Mets.
He probably can't. It's probably too much off season. Yeah,
I was in the off season. That's right. I'm just
saying at varying points, we've all circled around this thing

(17:48):
because we all see a Dylan Cees is going to
have a strong second half, because Dylan Sees is a
strong second half pitcher. But we also know Dylan Cees makeup.
And last week you said you wouldn't trust Randy Vasquez
in a playoff game. Will you know what? I would
trust him more than Dylan Ceese, not because of his stuff.
The stuff doesn't freaking compare. Like Dylan Cees is on

(18:09):
a two different tiers than Randy Vasquez, but on a
makeup on a competitor. Randy Vasquez is one of the gyms.
When he got knocked this series, I think it was
Stours hit the home rup against him. The very next
pitch Vasquez through to Stours was up and in like,
don't you dare lean across my plate again? And it's

(18:32):
just about makeup. It's just about it's grit squad stuff,
baby Dylan sees, ain't it? And I feel like that
with how we've heard, like there's probably fire to all
the smoke we've heard about payroll restrictions. We know there's
fire to the smoke about the Padres farm system not

(18:54):
being a position of strength for them to deal with.
If they're competing for against the Rays for somebody, they're
probably gonna lose in prospect capital. But we have a
guy who will take playoffs starts and has a pedigree
of being available and dominant at times. And you know,

(19:15):
I feel like that that is the ticket to getting
a legitimate bat. Be it a strength for strength, another rental,
whoever it be, Like, Dylan Cees is the capital. He
is the thing sitting there that you can swap out.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah you wanted to do, right, I just want I
just wanted.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
To quickly because this is group therapy. We did have
a hand go up and I saw it go back
down and it was from a huge patron. So I
just want to put the request back out there for
people if they're looking to hop up here.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
This show is for you, guys. We do want to
hear from you. I want to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
We are in trade corner, silly season stuff right now,
so we will.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Be going on diatribes as such.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
But there comes a hand right back up, so I'm
going to invite him back up. Oh it's it's it's
actually someone else. It's a it's a regular. It's Eddie
bow Guards Eddie.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Guys?

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Do you know what the meaning of this series was?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
The meaning of the series is they lost on the
margins because they didn't play clean baseball. But go ahead.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
What's yours meaning is? If Trenton Brooks gets another at bat,
I might have to blow my fucking brains out.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Big old, big old not not okay.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Okay, but I'm trying to figure out what their bench.
I think that going into a series, Shilton just looks
at one of the three guys, whether it be Brooks,
Wade or Bryce Johnson, and he's like, you will play

(21:01):
this series the other two you don't have to suit up.

Speaker 7 (21:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
I don't know what. I don't know what to do it.
Bryce Johnson has at least been playable. He brings speed,
good defense, He can, you know, put the ball in play.
Brooks I don't know. He hasn't provided any value. And
also I would like him too. I don't root against him, but.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
He never has Eddy Bogart's he's never performed at the
major league babseball level. He's because he's not a major
league hidder.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Yeah, it's it's really infuriating. And someone brought it up
of how like someone said, like though the GM wants
Brooks to play or vice versa with Shilt, and there's
butting heads and then Shilt's kind of forced his hand
to play him. I don't know, it's it's it's very baffled.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Eddie, you know who was saying that. Tevin was saying
that Tevin tested that to me, and I think he
texted it to Chiloa too, because Chiloa then spent spread
that intellectual contagion into our discord. I hear you, Tevin.
I know you're out there worm tonguing everybody. That may
be the case, but I don't want to make it
the excuse. But the fact is forty two played appearances

(22:31):
as a San Diego padre. That's more than Tearso Campusano combined.
You know, it is a bit inexplicable that this dude
has gotten the rumway he has Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
That's very bay or may not be true. Obviously, we
just have too much time on her hands during the
baseball season. We come up with these things. But yeah,
I don't know. I really don't know. Also, one time,
like yesterday's game, and some of the past fans were
blaming the loss on Kulik. Come on, let's be real.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Every losses on the offense. Every loss is on the
offense until we give up six runs.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Yeah, and I think Kulik was charged with three earned runs,
which is crazy because that Machado play was a clear
error and I mean maybe it's because he allowed the
first runner on That's why it.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
Was a.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
It's technically a single. It was technically a base hit
by the time Manny Machado gets to it, and then
the error is on the throw.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
Yeah, but people were saying, oh, we should have pulled
Klik sooner. It's like, no, we we still have a
four game series against the Cardinals starting tomorrow, and then
right after that with no break, we have nets. We
gotta stretch the starters out.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, absolutely totally agree. All right, And we got a
couple of people lined up behind you. Man, thank you
for coming up. Appreciate you. Okay, here comes a huge patron.
I would when I look at this, I would say
Scott fifteen. That's what I would say. But no, that's

(24:21):
that's the slots. He's the slots.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Are you gonna able to hear me? Yes?

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, okay, you can just call me Scott. You know,
when your brother makes a user name for you thirty
years ago, sometimes it's fixed. So, you know, been a
long time listener, first time collared. First off, I just
had to say so. My girlfriend actually somewhat personally knows

(24:47):
Trenton Brooks and absolutely despises him, and her favorite part
of the show is anytime Chris goes on a rant
talking about how horrible he is. So just keep the up, Chris,
keep it coming. She loves it. It's great content. So
I wanted to start off with that. The second thing
I had though, is, you know, we always talked about

(25:09):
trading for leftfield, trading for catcher, and some of that
would fix this. But I feel like this team just
has the problem with its bench. I mean, if you
look at who's on the bench, we know Brooks is
an issue, but the other three guys all kind of
bring the same thing, you know, Iglesias little bit better
with the bat. But Tyler Wade and Bryce Johnson, or

(25:33):
Tyler Wade and Brandon Lockridge. Yeah, Tyler Wade can play
the infield, but Iglacias should be getting those plays, right,
So why have both of them on the team at
the same time, right?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
And that was literally the decision Scot they made at
the beginning of the year when they sent Tyler Wade
down and then Tyler came up and reinvigorated the locker
room with his charm while he went like, you know,
eight for twenty two to start, which everyone gets fired
up about Tyler Wade, and then he'll go quietly too
for his next thirty two while he's in the starting lineup.

(26:08):
And oh but look, Tyler Wade. Oh he hustled, he
laid down a bunt, he did something. You know, Tyler
Wade is Tyler Wade. He's a lovely triple a piece
that if you brought him up for a week, we'll
do eight for twenty two. And if you bring him
up for you know, four months, he'll get eleven hits.
He'll just start off with those eight early on. So

(26:31):
I couldn't agree with you more. The bench is a
real problem for the Podres. This team isn't one bad away.
They're not They're not one bad away. One bet will
help one bet and Tatist goes on a run, and
Manny locks back in, and Boguard stays hot, and Merrill

(26:51):
keeps hitting and a Rise keeps hitting. Okay, we'll have
an offense going you know, that'll be pretty good. But
it's not just one bat that's going to solve this thing.
And the bench will be a problem going forward. And
Trenton Brooks is a disease on this team, you know.

(27:12):
And whether he's good, bad or in different human being,
is a ballplayer that's that's just a problem. He's a problem.
Every time he comes up, it's a problem. It's an
automatic out, and he's batting and ladening pressure situations for
the San Diego Padres and automatic outing. You know, he
was up yesterday Padres needed to get Meryl home when

(27:33):
they got two runs on the board. Brooks was up.
He made Now you know, it's just it's infuriating right now.
It's got to change and otherwise, you know, tell us
that we're and and in either scenario, cease moving makes
sense to me. It's got anything else.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
I guess the only other thing I had was, you know,
we talk a lot about getting rid of maldon Auto
at the deadline, and it seems like, based on AC's
recording that they love him. I mean, should we do
we think the team loves Diaz just as much or
should that be The other option we look at is,
you know, if Maldonado is going to be on the team,
we add the catcher and either dfa Diaz or see

(28:17):
if you can package Jim out in a trade that
so that that team just you know, has the catcher
and helps offsets the money some that way.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
It is really weird. You don't hear many, you know,
loud defenses of Diaz coming from the team's brain trust.
You know, maybe that's the play Maldonado, if they get
smart and they're playing him against left handed starters, you know,
maximizing what value he has. Maybe maybe that's the play.
But as Craig said, and as you said, Scott, it's

(28:50):
more than one roster spot, and Trenton Brooks is the
easy one that goes away. We're not going to say
his name again except when talking about what went wrong
about the year. You know, in the off season, or
in the years going forward, or like, remember when this
guy was taking important at bats because he's going to
be gone. He's the obvious roster spot when they make moves,

(29:13):
and then it becomes up for debate. Is it Das,
is it Tyler Wade? Tyler Wade? I forget who it was.
It was Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge listed Tyler Wade among
his top five favorite teammates ever. And for a clubhouse
that talks about in tangibles and valuing that stuff more
than anyone, it makes it kind of up in the

(29:34):
air whether he's going to be the one to go.
Jose Iglesias has absolutely earned his roster spot, and like
he may not come through every single time, but it
seems like one out of three times when he's up
in an important spot he gets bad on the ball
and something good happens. He had a pinch hit hit
today for a team that is absolutely terrible at pinch hitting.

(29:57):
So I don't want to see him go. But Trenton
Brooks is the obvious one. And then the question becomes, yeah,
is it Diaz When they get another catcher? Is it
Tyler Wade? When they get an outfielder?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I don't know, fifty one of one oh two three
runs or less, fifty one of one oh two. That's half,
that's half, that's half your games. You're not do you
remember twenty twenty three, it'll I'll never forget twenty twenty three.

(30:28):
In twenty twenty three, the we could go look it up.
But the Padres went like somewhere into this time of
the year before they won a game scoring three runs
a fewer or it was like one or two, like
they would never win. And we talked about the line

(30:51):
four runs chance to win, three runs, no chance to win,
you know, and it was like the whole year it
was this tarot. And then one of the last three
weeks they scored runs and kind of blurred the lines
a little bit. But until then it was just like, yeah,
under three, we never win. This team has won so
many times two to one, three to one, three to two,

(31:14):
you know, one nothing, five times one nothing. This year
we've won like that's a win, and it's a screaming signal.
Once again, evacuate the offense. We have a problem. If
it's not going to get fixed, it's not the pitching
can't do it. For one hundred and eighty five games

(31:35):
to win a title.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
You gotta have a problem. We have a Canadian waiting
in line, and they can only be patient so long.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's so true. I'm just going to keep screaming fifty
one of one oh two. Here's MTL, Ryan, MTL, please
please fix us.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
Hey, how's going well. I was planning on coming up
to inject a little bit of positivity, actually, because I
know everybody is a panicing.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
You know, season's over.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
We lost to the Marlins, but you know, there's been
a lot of talk.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
In the weeks.

Speaker 8 (32:09):
You know, we've spoiled our hot start falling into the pack.
The good news is that the rest of the NL
wild card pack has decided collectively to give us a mulligan.
And San Francisco has been terrible recently, another winning today.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
Saint Louis has.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
Been terrible, Arizona has been middling, and Cincinnati is still
I think three games back or something like that. So
we've started to see a little separation, which is good
because it incentivizes those teams that are below us to
sell off. Teams like the Cardinals who were kind of
treading water there for a bit. Thinds the herd for
us increases our chances, So you know, there's there's optimism

(32:49):
in the field because, right but baseball, getting into the
playoffs is a relative game. It's not any one number
that will get you in. It's how you're doing next
to the other guys. And right now, I think we're
on still a good pace. I know we've got problems,
but that brings me to the second point spin zone.
The Padres having the worst left field in baseball means

(33:11):
that even a mediocre trade is a massive marginal improvement.
So I think that, like, you know, you don't need
to make a big change to see a big difference
in the offense, because going from you know, three or
two black holes down to one and just getting a
couple of average producing players in there that you can
get for you know, relatively cheap given our prospects, is

(33:35):
really nice. So I'm feeling pretty good going into the
last week before the trade deadline.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, I mean exactly, MTL. Ryan, Right, this is what
we were just saying earlier, Like, I know that this
team all they have to do is score a run
more and they can go all the way with it
with this staff. You just you gotta fix the offense
you gotta fix the offense. You can't keep going this way.
So maybe we're just hanging on until a move is made,

(34:06):
but it's got to be, you know, a clear, clear
signal to aj that you you and hopefully to John Sibler.
You know, you just can't expect this to be the
way that it's going to finish. You got to make
a little fix here and then that team can be enough.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
The you know, Gavin sheets admirable fill in and left field.
This is why I have the Castillanos line because we
don't just need a hitter, we need we need another
good hitter who can bat in the top half of
the lineup. Because Gavin great contributions this year, Ideally he

(34:49):
shouldn't be hitting forth. You know, I feel like that's
been another drag on the team. Not as big a
fault as Nando being a drag hitting one and Manny
being a drag hitting three. I mean, credit to Louisa Rise.
He got a lot of crap in the discord today
because he swung at pitches that were outside the zone.
But guys, guys, it's like total James Franco on the

(35:13):
up there with the news on the gallows. You know
first time Louisa Rise is gonna swing pitches outside the
zone like he's going to and he's gonna get praise
when he puts those balls in play, and then nobody's
gonna say anything when he swings it to strike and
pops it up, because that's the guy. He is. Shadow
of Clay Kirby is in our should we should we

(35:35):
bring up the shadow of Clay Kirby.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Boys well, indeed, allow us to invoke the shadow coach.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
Good evening, or excuse me, get him good afternoon, gentlemen,
I know for sure Craig knows. The closest the potter's
ever got early on to a no header was indeed
Clay Kirby, who is removed in the eighth inning for
a pinch hitter by the now famous Press Gomez.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I believe so yes, Preston left.

Speaker 9 (36:03):
I can never forget the great play Kirby could have
been the first no header Boterary history, but.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Still lasted until Musgrove and then that was broken.

Speaker 9 (36:13):
Gentlemen, I would take this conversation in a different turn,
a different way. Nobody really is talking about and and
I have some backgrounds in this is really so many
of our players are in their head.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
For lack of a.

Speaker 9 (36:30):
Better description, Fernando Tatis Junior for context, I'm a sports hypnotist,
and it's shocking how the body language never, never.

Speaker 7 (36:40):
Never lies for anybody.

Speaker 9 (36:41):
And what you have here is you have players who
consistently exhibit body language that shows internal dissonance.

Speaker 7 (36:48):
And the Podreys have.

Speaker 9 (36:50):
On staff two people, two people, and I've never heard
a peep out of any of them, and they just
don't seem to dedicate any resources at all to the
mental conditioning, which is, in other words, for the emotional
conditioning of these players. You get the bet, you get
these big bag contracts, and you don't think there's pressure.

(37:11):
These guys don't know how to handle it. They're just
normal dudes and they've never been walked through it. And
to me, it's just so apparent. I mean, Fernando really
is just out of it. He is completely outside of
his mind as from our great Moneyball analogy, but.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
He but he really is.

Speaker 9 (37:29):
And so many of these players who struggling. Bryce Johnson
comes up and the guy's terrified, terrified. And I can
say that definitively because body language simply doesn't lie. It
is the function of your unconscious mind and it and
it you have no conscious control over it. So these
guys are displaying really difficult problems and they're I see

(37:51):
no solution.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
Every day.

Speaker 9 (37:53):
They just run out the same thing, Hey do better.
And of course, Craig, you're right, our offense sucks completely,
but you know, go to the sore. Why is it
that it's happening, not just hey, let's go take more
VP these guys, I'll tell you the dumbest thing that
happens all the time at work with a lot of
baseball players and tennis players, and whenever they feel bad,
they go out and take more work. They get in
the cage and have more swings. It's not it doesn't

(38:15):
address the underlying issue. The underlying issue is always emotional
and mental from the past, and so they go out
and do busy work because it burns off energy and
they just don't they don't know address this responsibly and
in a way indulta. So I've never heard peep out
of the two mental skills coordinators. By the way, you know,
list the piers are smart, and they hired a couple

(38:36):
of Latin coaches because we got a lot of Latin players,
and you got to understand the mindset of those I mean,
the full mindset of the culture. But you know, Corona
Worth struggled mightily as soon as he got the bag,
did he not?

Speaker 7 (38:48):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (38:49):
Even look at Trent Briston languished in this town, Okay,
And for no pairer reason. The guy had all the
ability to do whatever he is, and he was a
ten cent head, as they say, and they just kind
of wrote him off.

Speaker 7 (38:59):
And what happen.

Speaker 9 (39:00):
He shows up in the Bronx and magically starts playing
a little bit better. Because there's a lot of different
ways to affect change for this stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
But shadow, shadow, he addressed this Trent Grisham. This year,
he talked about talking to somebody. Yes, like he went
on the record and spoke about this, about getting his
head game a little bit more straight. I want to
point out Xander Bogart's also got the bag, struggled a lot,
and all we saw was a guy trying to continually

(39:27):
grit it out. This season, he goes on record talks
about how he you know, he was sucking, how he
wasn't being valuable. But then some friends texted him, Hey, dude,
your underlying stats aren't that bad. And that he credited
with his turnaround a little bit and a new perspective.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 9 (39:46):
All he did is is sometimes even just a new
perspective is enough to make that internal shift. And it's
just with the You're talking about a billion dollar, multi
billion dollar company dedicating no effort, no public because your players.
I guarantee you, if you put effort into this, players
will play better, They will feel better, and they will
play better.

Speaker 7 (40:05):
I see it. I'll give you example.

Speaker 9 (40:07):
When Austin Nola was really struggling before anybody, before really
everybody was, you know, throwing this guy under the bus.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
I agree, you know, as pathetic it is.

Speaker 9 (40:16):
I tried to reach out to him on Instagram and
even Jake and say, look you can, you can definitely
improve because what's going on here is the mind always
affects behaviors.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
The mind always affects action.

Speaker 9 (40:28):
There is a thought, an unconscious thought, and now you're
gonna get an action from it, as simple as that.
And it is beyond the conscious control. You know, grit
and willpower. It's just not effect if the subconscious mind
is infinitely too powerful. So they they it's just they
just don't put any resources into it, and it's still
a very hush huts thing got major League Baseball.

Speaker 7 (40:47):
Players and across the level college.

Speaker 9 (40:49):
I work with a lot of college players, and they
view this kind of work as weakness. They don't they
don't view it as like, hey, this is a superpower.
How can I get myself scored away? Bright shawt you
know the ms Bull Durham. What's the difference between a
three hundred hit or two and fifty hitter over the
course of the season, hit scratch hits?

Speaker 7 (41:07):
Okay, yeah, that's the difference.

Speaker 9 (41:09):
And and and what what is that that that's showing
a little brain power.

Speaker 7 (41:12):
I'm Brad Johnson, Dude.

Speaker 9 (41:13):
I'm gonna study, study, study everything I can about every
single pitcher that's.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
In this league so that I can feel at least
less fearful when I get in the bus. But it's
in it.

Speaker 9 (41:25):
It's really shocking, how how really bad it is. And
I got you know, I'll sign off on this because
I know the guys are are waiting, but you know,
we missed our window. Because you guys really give some
outstanding inside. The three of you get some outstanding insight
into what troubles this team, and none of you are wrong.
I mean, you you all are bringing these really really

(41:47):
important points, but I'm not a black pillar. But but
the reality is we have a fantastic pitching staff, but
we just you know, we just don't have the guns
to sustain. Like I went to the Philly series all
three games, I sat maybe five rowers behind the Phillies
dug out, that team's just built different. They first of all,
every one of those guys that's fifteen to twenty pounds.

Speaker 7 (42:08):
Heavier, well just rocked up, jacked up than our guys are.

Speaker 9 (42:13):
And they have a completely different presence on the field.
And I'm no fan of I'm no Philly's guy, but
I was very impressed.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
In that series.

Speaker 9 (42:22):
And I do not like Bryce Harper at all, But god,
what I would do to get Kyle Schwarber.

Speaker 7 (42:27):
On this team.

Speaker 9 (42:27):
Good lord, I'd trade away half the goddamn team to
get this guy, because he's just a baller.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
He's just a baller. And so anyway, that's I just
wanted to wanted to bring up.

Speaker 9 (42:37):
And it's just to me, they're just there's no attention
paid to it, and it is We're losing these games.
As you so said so well on the margins. Okay,
these are games that we should absolutely be winning. And
I know Manny is the sacred cow, but if I
have to watch him just crap out and can't even
bother to run a hard ninety on a ground ball.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
You know, I know nobody wants to talk about it,
but what the fuck is that? Okay? What is that?
That is just not okay?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Okay, it's such a good calling.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
You're batting a thousand okay.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Anyway, yes, we do have someone else so uh, but Shadow,
please come back because like I have more questions for
you in the future and when we h.

Speaker 10 (43:25):
Yeah, absolutely great call, yeah great, yeah, clock just up
the clock.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
That was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Here's Friar Goose coming on in huge patron Friar Goose,
welcome back to the program sir.

Speaker 7 (43:41):
And I hit the new button.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Guys. I'm making some progress here, making some progress. Uh.

Speaker 11 (43:46):
What a fascinating take. I was kind of blown, you know,
minus the last ten seconds. I agree, But what a
fascinating take, you know, on the mental fortitude of the
players and how to how to reinforce that. I have
one question actually for Shadow or or or you guys.
I would love some of that mental analysis, not just
of the players, guys, what about the doomers. I would

(44:09):
love some insight, some hypnosis on some of the dumers.
You know, you know who you are, guys calling game
at the bottom of the first you know, I would
love to see some of the some of the psychological
profile of the typical dumer.

Speaker 7 (44:26):
And that's my question.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Thanks, Okay, thanks very funny. I'm sorry, the chat's been very,
very funny.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
You can't see it.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Sorry, No, the chat is killing it. It's just unaddressed anxiety. Goose.
You take all that you've seen, bad things happened so
many times. Uh Rafie I think knows the medical code
for the diagnosis at hand. At least he's it's forty one.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
It's post that's post traumatic stress disorder.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
But uh yeah, I think like if we I mean, look,
this is another thing for a shadow when to come
back up. But like I feel like in the uh,
the doomer versus bloomer thing, it's almost like a mirror
of like anxious versus avoidant attachments and like insecure attachments
that people have, and it's like it's like bloomers are
avoidant attachments. They're like fuckay, who gives a shit whatever,

(45:28):
like we'll be fine, it's great, And then like the
anxious attachment or the duomers, who are like, no, no, no,
we have to predetermine every bad thing that could possibly
happen with this team to prevent a bad thing from happening.
So it really just says a lot about really your childhood.
This is now becoming group therapy. So you know, So
if there is a doomer out there, a lot of times,

(45:49):
the question that I would ask them is who hurt you?
You know, what happens? It's okay, You're safe now, you know.
And if it's a bloomer, you say, what are you
running for?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
You know? Right? Right?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
People handle games different ways. Do you feel anxiety while
watching a game? Maybe you're a surgeon and you don't
because you can't, you know, And and that's how you
personally interact with a game. And therefore it's hard to
imagine being with the person who experiences extreme anxiety starting

(46:28):
hours before the game begins and then cascading at the
moment when the team falls behind that you just feel
like it's all over, you know. And so then you
type it in a chap, you know, because that's an
easy way to release some of that stress and anxiety.
You know. That's there's other people who get like really

(46:52):
angry watching a game, you know, and have that like
her let's grow so like if you're down for, tell
me we're down for. We're Damanda, you know, and it's
like that's that person that's like hold me back at
the end of the night and like come on, we
gotta go home. You know, everyone's got their own way.
I don't think there's a perfect way. I don't think

(47:14):
there's any way. You know, everyone's got their own way
that they interact with a stress war, and watching a
baseball game is a stress war sent and by the way,
the sport is stupid. Hence you know I shouldn't watch.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
We in there, Well we have we I thought we
were clicking the button we have heel in col friend
of the show.

Speaker 10 (47:46):
I just I just wanted to mention something John said
years ago that I think it was kind of helpful.
Is he was like, sometimes I'll just not watch every
game that week and then see what the week look
like and then process how I feel about the team then.
And I've found that if you take designated off days

(48:08):
from baseball in your own personal schedule. Sometimes it can
really help. There's been a couple of games where it's like, oh,
Kyle Heart's starting today against the Cubs. I I'm not
watching today and we're just gonna, you know, just let
let what happens in that game happen and like digest
the whole week, because I think everyone's panicking right now.

(48:29):
If we take three or four against the Cards, everyone
feels a lot better, you know, like as we're going
there and then coming back home. So it, you know,
processing it in bolt can be really helpful. I did
just want to like throw a stat in there. I
threw in the chat but kind of got buried by
manny take reactions. But I looked at every starting pitcher

(48:52):
performance game log for the number of times they've given
up of more than four runs, and that's earn or unearned.
So just like did they leave the game in a
place where Craig was saying, like, now you can blame
the pitching instead of the and Colic actually has done

(49:12):
it five times. He had a rough streak there, but
Randy Vasquez only did that once. The tight leash on
Randy Vasquez has been working really well. Pavetta Cease and
Heart all have three. Bergert has zero, darbish zero, King
has zero. So I really like it's a tendency to like,

(49:33):
look at Manny didn't hustle on this, or Manny didn't
you know, made an error here, But like, how many
times have teams like the Dodgers won a game despite
having like three errors, because it turns out when you
have you know, four MVP candidates hitting right after each
other and all clicking, like, you don't need that. And

(49:55):
I think that's really where it comes down to, is
it's like easy to bemoan the the small play where
you're like, oh, we lost this game on that margin.
We should be beating the Marlins without needing the margin.
I get the Marlins are hot right now, but the
point stands up, like, we can beat the Nationals without

(50:15):
needing perfection from every facet of the game because you
play well enough on offense to gloss over a bad
inning or a bad throw or whatever. And I think
that's the anxiety that everyone's feeling is you see Jake
dribble the ball out of the glove because the throw
is low, and you go, oh no, oh no, we
just gave them that out and that like, that's where

(50:38):
they're like, I think even if you're a bloomer, like
when you see that error with the way the team's
been playing, everyone immediately goes, oh oh no. My last point.
I don't know if this has been talked about because
of an in and out with work, but Trenton Brooks
coming up to pinch at bat leaves me one question

(50:58):
because I know Wade played today, but it was like
two days ago or like yesterday or a couple days ago.
It brought him out because it's a lefty and like,
why why is Tyler Wade?

Speaker 3 (51:08):
What did he do?

Speaker 10 (51:10):
Like what he is?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
A lefty at bat?

Speaker 10 (51:12):
And I think that's really someone else said it, like
it's the bench. It's entirely the bench. There is no
David Peralta. There is no somebody that comes up where
you're a least at least something good can happen here.
And I think that's the struggle where you're like, who
are we calling on you? You know you're looking down
the bench if your shilt just being like I guess
I got we got nothing, And I just don't he

(51:36):
Tyler Wade's too much of a quality player apparently to
put on the field for any reason.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Kevin a Ces had his finger on the pulse and
in his daily or in his newsletter, he brought this
up to Shilt, and Shilt just said, I want Tyler
available for defense late in the game, So I'm hesitant
to earn him as a pinch hitter because if you
have something go wrong, Tyler Wade's the guy who can

(52:06):
fill in around the field, and frankly, his value as
a pinch hitter is pretty pretty not great either, So
oh yeah, they're all bad.

Speaker 10 (52:16):
This is this is bargain bin hunting for a pinch
hitter that can do something.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
But I don't know.

Speaker 10 (52:24):
I'd rather have Bryce Johnson bunt attempt and try to
run to first at this point. And I think it's
just the like, regardless of if we fix the big holes,
having just any quality on the bench is what I
need from the trade deadline, Just anyone that you can
look there and be like, Okay, I'm confident that this
guy will at least hit the ball on the barrel,

(52:48):
whether or not it goes at somebody. So that's that's
my my note there.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I could not agree more like, yeah, you nailed it,
and I think that you know, they'll see more games
like today and like yesterday, go their way.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
When they do, we gotta have Tiler for his defense.
All of it is nonsense. It's all nonsense. I just
looked at this guy's savant page from twenty seventeen. He
has never been higher than twenty two percent on the

(53:29):
slider for defense. Okay, ever, okay, the.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Reason he means versus Craig.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Right, he can play mediocre all over the field, and
that is a real thing. I mean, that's a real thing.
He can be a mediocre third basement, a mediocre second basement,
and mediocre shortstop, mediocre center fielder. You know he can
do it. But he's not good anywhere.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
So there's so much nonsense that we say to justify
the poor playing players on our team, I'm telling you,
and then we just we get sucked in. Nola's Nolah's
brilliant whispering. He knows how to coach them up. Oh

(54:20):
my god, I want to know what triple A team
Austin Nola has been coaching up with his incredible whispering,
sending guys to the big leagues left and right while
he's left behind. Here's Eddie we're now leaving behind. He's
got one quick thing to say.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
But before I say that. During the ulcer break, a
reporter asked Judge of who are your like three favorite
former teammates, and.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Eddie I said this already. I said this on the
put on your earbuds. Put on your earbuds and listen, Eddie.

Speaker 6 (54:58):
But since this is herup therapy, I want to talk
to something again, not for the Padres, but more for
Padres fans and just in general, for Discord fans. If
you're someone who is actively rooting against a person who
is not very good on the team before the bat,

(55:21):
and then if that app bat goes badly, if you're
celebrating that, sorry, you're not a good fan.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Even unless it's Martin Maldonado, in which case I'm completely justified.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
Even Miss Brooks, whoever you want to say, if you
are hoping they do bad to satisfy your narrative, you
are a bad fan and should reconsider how you support too.
That's all you gotta.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Say, writing Eddie Ballguards, I mean, I understand what you're saying.
I always hope the Padres win and succeed. I would
not prefer them to lose a game so that the
player I don't like fails and I know that that
is a dark spiral that people can get into sometimes,

(56:08):
in which case, you know, remind yourself, baseball stupid, shouldn't watch.
And that's a good thing. All right. Up to the
stage is mister Clutch.

Speaker 12 (56:18):
The guys speaking of nonsense. I do not know stats
a lot. I mean, I'm just I'm slowly learning. But
you know, it seems like there's a ton of stats.
And I realized, like defensive stats are even kind of
more difficult to kind of pin down. But I mean,
we do have catcher stats, and you know, we hear

(56:40):
all this talk and you got to talk about it
a lot about how you know, they held up our
catchers as being these defensive things, and now it seems
like chilfs are even doing that. He's like, like you
just said, Craig, you know they're so good with the pitchers.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
I'm wondering. I mean, we had the.

Speaker 12 (56:57):
You had the I can't remember his name, the guy
who was who was the writer on and he was
talking about he was a former pitcher, and he was
talking about how sequencing yeah yeah, yeah, And he was
talking about how sequencing was helpful, and I just thought, God,
I would think that there would be some stats, you know,
that that would really show other than just you know,

(57:20):
a pictures, you know, having to use a picture stats
as a stand in, like something that shows how useful
a catcher is.

Speaker 6 (57:27):
Otherwise it just feels like and maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 12 (57:30):
It just it's just make believe, like I just like
this guy, and so I'm just gonna come up with
something that you can't prove and you can't or you
can't disprove me, and all those keep saying that in
my press conference. So this guy's you know, doesn't feel
bad even though he ranks horribly on these defensive measures
and he ranks horribly on these offensive measures. But I
was just curious if there was any kind of stuff
about you know, I'm not saying that there isn't a

(57:51):
back and forth with catch the catchers can't help a
picture and that that they're not useful in that way,
but it seems like there would be some kind of
like stats to help show.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
Oh that so hard.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
To distinguish the signal from the noise. That's the thing,
mister Clutch. Thank you for the call. You know, catcher's
era was a thing that people were trying to use
for a while, but then it just the reason that
stat doesn't hang on is because over time it just
finds up. No, it's just noise. It's noise left and right.
It's noisy. It's very difficult to do. Martin Maldonado is

(58:29):
and I think it's just fair to accept this, like
he is evidence that there is something to it, because
he's been the worst hitter in the league and a
terrible defensive catcher for the entirety of the decade, and

(58:49):
he's kept getting jobs, and you know, he's not long
drummed out of baseball, so there's certainly something to it. However,
how much of it is just gobbledegook mysticism and how

(59:10):
much of it is reality is probably unknowable from the outside.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
I mean. And also, like one a World Series in
twenty twenty two he played, I don't feel like it
was a ton of game, No, it was he played
one hundred and thirteen games or a World championship team,
Like that's not nothing. But the catching position undergoes all
sorts of things, like framing is the thing that's now

(59:41):
you know, like they talk about guys having Hall of
Fame cases based on how good of a framer they
were and how many strikes they sold. But the fact
is that's going away next year to a large extent.
Maybe not completely because you will only get a few
challenges per game, but as ABS continues to bring up,
it's like prominence in the game, We're gonna just want

(01:00:03):
to see hitter catchers who hit more and more and more.
I feel like so like you may not have to
worry about it too long there, mister Clutch.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
All right, anyone else wanting to put up their hands
and uh jump up on the stage. We are at
the hour mark on the show. This is usually where
we pull up stakes on a group therapy. Fifty one
of one oh two.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Yeah man, one of one two.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Just because his name has come up so much on
the pod, I saw something on the Padres reddit that
was really great going into today's game. Tyler Wade had
the same ops this year as he did through one
hundred games last year, and on last year's team he
was the second worst hitter with that ops and this
year he is top half.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
So wow, oh oh.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
God, yeah, my kid, same same number.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
You know, here's my walk away from this one. You
lost a series where you only you only gave up
eight runs, right, and the game you scored the most
you lost for three. You know, for this this is

(01:01:25):
a signal. You know. Now go to Saint Louis and
win three out of four. As someone said earlier, we
all feel good. Yes, go win three out of four
by winning one, nothing, two, one, three to two and
losing four to a zero or four to one. You know,
I'm just gonna say, this is just the same thing
this this team is doing. What this team is doing.

(01:01:47):
So if they got to pick it up, I think
everybody knows it Tretton, but Brooks shouldn't be here. And personally,
my walk away is I feel we're at the point
with another July cease start scratched off the list completed.

(01:02:08):
Now you're down to what like eleven starts remaining something
like that, Michael King coming back at some point soon enough.
I kind of feel like Berger could hold the fort
until and bridge the gap until Michael King got back,
and that you might be able to unlock. As Chris said,

(01:02:30):
a trade that makes sense that brings some stuff here
that makes this team better. By clearing out the last
eleven starts because we already.

Speaker 7 (01:02:37):
Know in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Come on, give me a break. You know that game
is the game we're scheduled to lose, So I'd just
be as happy to not have him start that game.
And this team can get better. This team can just
score one more run a game and all of a
sudden start winning a shit ton of games and win
eleven in a row, and people are like, oh, my

(01:03:00):
best team in the league. It's like, can't well they
started scoring four and five instead of is going two.
You can't win and score two. It's crazy. So anyways,
that's not for me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Nando gets hot. This team looks different. Nando starts having
fun playing baseball again. This team looks different. As that
fantastic call from the Ghost of the Shadow the sh sorry, yeah, sorry,
the Shadow of Klay Kirby like that that really hit

(01:03:35):
on something very important that you know, kind of gets
the whole team going. And yeah, as ag Fieri talks
in the chat, Jackson Merrill has been showing some signs
of life. He's hitted. He's hit some balls really hard
the past few days after barely hitting the ball hard
at all, like the first week of July. So those are.

(01:03:58):
Those are good signs, but they need some depth to
the lineup, Like championship teams have substantially more depth in
their lineup than we do. And it's not it's not
good faith to call us a championship championship caliber team
with with the current guys batting one through nine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Indeed, uh, we'll be back four game series in Saint
lou opportunity for more postgame shows, and the trade deadline
is now eight days away.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
You guys are with me right? You do not want
Marcellusuna on the Padres under any circumstance. Yeah, really, no
matter what it costs or.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
That was rumor that is not going back. There was
a nothing rumor that it was like literally meant to
try and will and manifest the stove to turn on,
because the stove has been pretty quiet across baseballs. So uh, certainly,
for Ryan Berger, Marcelo's Una will not be a Padre.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
That is a very very very.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Steep overpay for a like Let's put aside all of
the personal reasons why I would not want Marcelo's in
on this team. He is a struggling, aging rental who
is not going to make the Padres better. Like, I
just I is it, Like maybe on the margins a
little bit, but at the price of what Hector Gomez

(01:05:31):
was claiming, which was Ryan Berger, which would be a
vast overpay, and also at the price of what we
would have to go through as fans rooting for someone
who has been suspended for domestic violence, Like I like
fucking keep it, Like I'm so out on Marcelo Zuna.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Yeah, I don't need him. He's a good right handed bat.
I mean, he's a good, solid, right handed bat. But
if we're just going to go down the you know,
pregnant pragmatism lane, you'll find a lot of ballplayers on there,
some hanging out in Mexican boats waiting for a call.
It's never coming. You'll you'll find them. You'll find them

(01:06:12):
down there, all right, So we're no Zona. That's fine.
Marcella is in a reaction podcast will be coming up
in thirty six to forty eight hours.

Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
Oh boy, it'll.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Be a hot one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Hey, fifty one of one oh two. Come on, that's
that's half.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
That's half.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
That's just too much.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Make it better, Jay, make it better, do something.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
I'm done. That's my story. I had to keep saying
it Eddie until I had to say it beginning middle
once and you know, like that alarm I heard that
made me bug out of burning Beard, Like what would call?
Why would you have that alarm? Evacuate the building immediately? Thanks,

(01:07:05):
scary as hell, you can explode. All right, I'm done, guys, anything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Else, We'll talk to you in a few days. I
really hope we have a trade to talk about Sunday,
So badly, So so badly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Hey, if you've watched Poker Phase, you got to check
out the Crossing streams that we recorded, available in all
podcast apps everywhere you can find it, because Rayfie gave
so much incredible insight on what it was like to
be working in Ryan Johnson's Rinder's Room House. Shows go

(01:07:43):
from thought concept all the way through to execution. You
know how voices and senses of humor are allowed to
match from a disparate group of people to create a
coherent you know, all of it, all of it. Incredible interview.
I'll have to battle through Chris and I talking about
the show first, and then we'll get to Ray get

(01:08:04):
to Rafe's part, and it's incredible. So check it out.
Check out Crossing streams. Everyone go like and subscribe and
do all of that stuff, and then we'll talk to
you on that after the next win, hopefully it's tomorrow
for Chris and Rafe m craig Goo Padres. Please score
more runs.