Trade Deadline Live Reaction Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Hello, Hi there, guess what padres at the top
of the town Padres of the bee's knees.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I tell you you'd get it again. There's the cat's pajamas.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
You can't keep getting away with it.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Every year, every year, every year, every year, every year.
Holy cow, guys, it's the Trade Deadline postgame show, and
it's Craig and Chris and Rafie altogether.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We're recording this live in front of.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Well over one hundred patrons and growing minute by minute
live on our discord. You can be a part of
our live shows Patreon dot com, slash padres hot tum Rafe.
For the first time, it's turned up shirtless. Chris has
been shirtless after many a win, and I showed up
wearing three shirts. Okay, because I wanted to visually illustrate seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
As we don't have like live memes or something.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
We're not like this heavily edited YouTube or TikTok show.
I wanted to illustrate my emotions of the day and
as a reminder.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
To not.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Think about this guy in this organization and what he
does until the bell rings.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Until the bell rings.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yeah, you're just you're just like walking up to the
ride and then just being like, you know what, I'll
see you guys, see you guys at the end of it,
not getting on the roller coaster, not puke and pukan and.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Having the the.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
The absolute exuberance of the first news and then getting
the the news of who we gave up and then
the big old plummet down and yeah, the little kid
vomit all over your shirt. You're just passing all that up.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Well, I wish I had done it even better, and
next year I'll remember and I'll do it even better.
Half of it I did really well. And this isn't
about me, but yeah, I went golfing. I wasn't riding
the doom Scroll at any point today. I was just
letting the notifications let me know when a move happened.
But we were texting back and forth, the three of us.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
At one point Chris wanted to do an emergency show
after one trade and I was like, I'm not gonna
do anything until we're done. And I'm so glad, and furthermore,
I'm so glad, thank you Odyssey, that I wasn't on
the radio today. The worst time to have been on
the radio would have been from ten to two today,

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you know, only talking about Miller and Fermean and not
even getting o'haran and Loreano until the show was over,
so or like right around the end. So with all
of that, still, I had feelings and I communicated them
to these boys. So I'm now going to visually illustrate that,

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which is great for an audio podcast that literally doesn't
have a video component.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
So you start off a bonus for our live audience.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It is a bonus for our live audience. So I
got to take off amongst other bonuses. So much bonus.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
Craig, you muted yourself in this process. You we can't okay, Craig,
we can't hear you. But he took off his headphone
so he muted himself.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
This is great. I mute at the mic. Yeah, I
touched and muted it.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
You can hear me now though, right, Yes, we can
hear you.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay. I had to put down the headset so I
can't hear you. So start off. No crying in baseball.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
But I saw that we traded our top prospect and
the guy that I thought was going to be an
all star shortstop maybe for years, and we did it
for well, shit, Mason Miller, a guy who throws one
hundred three miles hour and has like four or five
years of control and a controllable young pitcher in JP Sears.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I said to myself, I'm all ears. I was confused.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
I was just like baby Yoda, like what's going on?
I don't get it, but I'm all ears. Tell me more.
Then I was told that we traded Ryan Bergert for
a backup catcher, Freddy for me. Oh no, wait, we

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traded Ryan Bergert and Stephen Kohlik for Freddie.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
For mean.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Okay, he's got control, but I don't know who the
hell this guy is. What's going on? My disappointment is immeasurable,
and my day is ruined. I felt horrible, what the
hell is happening? And then we get all the bats
we want for a bunch of AI generated names Brandon

(05:04):
Butterworth and Billy Bixton and Robby boom Bomb, and we
got back of Will Wagner. And in the end, we
didn't trade Dylan Seines, we didn't trade Robert Suarez.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
The four Horsemen have a fifth the boat.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
The guys we traded Cola and Burger have turned into
sears and Nasty four tends out of nowhere, and you
know what, we got to switch hitting eighteen year old
short stop back then. Jorge Kintana is where I settle
on this day. Let's fucking go San Diego. This team

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is ready to win the World Series. Now, team's ready
to win the NL West. This team's ready to get
the best record. Team's ready to get a bye. This
team's ready to win it all. They did it. They
filled the holes, they actually kept some.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Stuff along the way, and.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
They've got a clear path for the next three years.
I'm pretty fucking impressed at the end of everything that
was said and done.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
LFGSD, LFGSD.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Chris, you want to you want to launch in and
give us your take and then all I'll lay it down.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Maybe I'm I'm kinda because my energy is not going
to be the same as Craig.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's like, if you're.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Gonna have a similar energy than Craig, maybe you should
go next.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
Well, okay, all right, we do sort of a gradient
because I think I'm gonna land in the We're gonna
land in the middle of you guys. So when I
we were texting a lot today and we think we
went we went through the five stages of grief in
all of those texts in that roller coaster six or

(07:04):
seven hours between the Mason Miller trade and when the
deadline ended and after we traded away Ryan Bergert, which
first of all, thank you very much people, I fucking.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Saw that from a mile away.

Speaker 7 (07:19):
But after we traded Ryan Bergert and Stephen Kollik for
Freddy for Meen, which I think all three hosts will
agree was a pretty massive overpay, the feelings were a dour,
let's say, and we thought that deadline. Preler was at
it again, as John Pracota and I talked about on
PODSBA replacement and YadA, YadA, YadA, and I texted you,

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guys my thoughts, and my thoughts are essentially this, which
I think still remain after all of.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
The trades were completed.

Speaker 7 (07:52):
This deadline is way more about John Seidler than it
is about AJ Preller.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
AJ has been.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
Nothing but consistent with who he's been the last decade
he's run this team. He will trade anyone for anyone.
The difference is we have an owner who is not
willing to spend money, and so AJ is going after
exclusively cheap, controllable, controllable players, at a high cost. In
Prospect Capital, this deadline is what happens when an unstoppable

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force meets a movable immovable object. Aj is the unstoppable force,
relentlessly trying to win, willing to take huge risks for
the potential high reward. John Seidler is the immovable object,
unwilling to open the purse strings. The results is this
and insane, and at the time I said, probably stupid

(08:40):
deadline until we got the Bats that ultimately completed us
in Ramon Loreano and Ryan O'Hearn.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
This team went all in.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
This team went all in harder than it's ever gone
all in before, even harder than the Sodo trade.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
After such a I don't think so. I don't think well.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
I'm.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Given up.

Speaker 7 (09:08):
Well, okay, in prospect capital, yes, but in terms I'm
talking about as a percentage of like what the team
had left like the Padres basically gave eighty percent ninety
percent of their farm away today of what they had
like and I think in the Soto trade, yes, it

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was more talented, but the Padres had a more or
stacked farm system. At the time, the Padres still had
Jackson Merrill and the farm system like they wouldn't give
Jackson Merrill.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
That was the whole point of it. They still had
other guys, and so.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Yeah, look, Aj Preller has a very defined school of thought.
Prospects our money. Prospects are capital to be used. And
guess what, he can go out and find more. And
he's done it, and he's done it, and he's done it.
I'm not saying long term it's gonna work. I'm not
saying long term it's for sure gonna end with the championship.
But he's demonstrated that that is his philosophy on team

(10:03):
building and he's willing to continue doing that over and
over and over again. And I mean, yeah, I'll passed
the rock to you, Chris, just because we're gonna talk
more and more about this. But like, I'm fucking floored
by today. It was like one of the most exciting
and fun days I've had being a Padres fan.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
So I'm like, let's fucking go.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Ray.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
If you said it really, really well, I like, and
you also texted us that amazing tweet from last year
where it was kind of like.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Oh, no, AJ has traded away all this prospects. You full.

Speaker 8 (10:40):
Simp little Cretan. He prints prospects of his magic prospect machine.
We will be back here in a year, and I
totally hear it, boys, And I'm not even gonna get
into the you know win loss of every different trade.
Today was an absolutely insane day and the impression that
I am like left with is that the John Seidler

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ownership team has abandoned the competitive strategy of spending money,
Like that era is gone. Manny Machado liked the Caplain
and Crew tweet saying the exact same thing, saying that
the John side that John Siler was gonna look to
put things in his pocket rather than use money as

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a strategy for competition. I think the competitive strategy of
spending money is extremely valid, and I think the Padres
have abandoned it. And Aj Preller deserves a ton of credit.
He deserves a contract extension this week because there's nobody

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else I would trust more to have to steer this
particular ship than Aj Preller, a guy who has to
scout at the absolute top of the game, turn those
spects into something other teams want, and then trade them
away for guys that aren't going to cost a lot
of money. I do think Peter Sidler's strategy of spending

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money field a competitive team trying to win a championship
was valid, and we've talked all the Livelong day about
the lip service paid to his dynasty and whatnot. But
I think this trade deadline officially closes.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
That chapter forever.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
We can't have any pie in the sky feelings about
the Padres maybe doing their best to spend because they're
not going to. Now, granted they're spending a lot of money.
They're sixth in the league and CBT pay role, I
acknowledge that, but to see the cost paid in prospect
capital today, especially with Leo Davres, a dude who has

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been in the Padres system basically since he was twelve
years old, that's what age these kids get into the
academies and the Dominican Republic, Like, that's the age that
this dude was putting on a San Diego Padres hat.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
It is.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Padres are his favorite team, he signed with them, and
to ship him off to the absolute waste land of
Major League Baseball with John Fisher and his whatever town is,
it leaves a really bad taste in my mouth because
because not only are they abandoning the competitive strategy, of

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spending like that felt like a kid who was Padrey's
family and he's not gonna be so it felt like
a last ditch move that aj had to make in
order to go for a championship this year. Bless that dude,
because he's the only one in the Padres front office
who is prioritizing winning a championship. Padrey's ownership is not.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
I don't Okay, we're going to have a fight now,
so apologize because this is a really exciting day. But
I I think the entire day dismisses your theory, like
literally disproves and dismisses your theory. For your theory to
be true, the Padres would have had to have spent

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less money today and to have sent out payroll today
to have reduced their payroll over the course of the day.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Ker That's right.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
They did keep but they kept Dylling, They kept Louise,
they kept Jake Cronin, they kept Roberts, they.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Kept every their reporting. But they gave up prospects in
order to get salaries paid down.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Okay, they gave up salary to get some salary paid down.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Presumably on the Orioles.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
They're over the second number they're over the second number.
So well, I mean, come on, the Brewers. They gave
him Brandon Lockridge, my boy, yeah, brand Lockridge, settled down,
settled down, give.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Your body, drove to the airport myself.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Okay, like literally, Brandon Lockridge for eight starts of Nestor
Cortes and whatever we get from another eighteen year old
switch hitting shortstop is an undisputed win for me. That's
a great trade, Okay. I look at this in the Gestalt.
They did not lower payroll, They did not make a

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bad trade. They didn't trade after everything was done, Sworez
for a single a pitcher that we never see and
have the reporting go, well, that was the money that
they had to do. For O'Hearn and for Loriano. Loreano
has an option for next year. He's a controllable player

(15:43):
at cost. He's a controllable player at cost next year.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know O'Hearn is.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
An opportunity to extend that you could give his money
to him instead of to arise. I think at the end,
and we can go through each trade, there's certainly ones
I like better than others. But I think in the end,
what aj does is he treats his farm system like

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a battery or like a machine. If you've ever played
the game dominion, I think that's maybe the best example
I could give. He has the deck that he has
built that even when he empties it, he replenishes it.
And every time it just comes to can he build
up to the eight points? He needs to buy the thing,

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and he always finds a way. And this time he
was adding Devrees. I don't give. I'm sorry, I don't
care about the whole narrative of well, Devires is going
to sacrament or Vegas, whatever, players go everywhere. He's gonna
make plenty of money in his career and he's gonna
do great. Was he worth Miller who might be a superstar,
It might be an all star starter for our team,
or might be a bust.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't know. I don't know if I would have
made that deal, to be very honest with you.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
But in the end, today we've got five horsemen. Today
we've now got Morahane with Estrada and Adam and Miller
and Suarez. Nobody's gonna beat that bullpen. The Mets just
put together a great bullpen. Ours is better. Ours is better.

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We didn't have to trade Wandy Peralta. We didn't have
to trade Yuki Matt Suey if we were going to
reduce payroll, if if the era of spending was over,
we would have lowered our payroll while ushering in our
forty fifth sellout of the year.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
And that none of that happened. We're over the apron.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
We spent prospects, sure, but I don't give two fucks
about Billie Bob Brownerwitz and John Jamison and Kelly kent
Worth and all of the other players that we traded
today that were clearly made up names. Okay, like noo,
he's our real people cried, half of these guys are
never going to exist again. They're gonna just show up

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as something else in those systems.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I mean, like, I fine, trade them.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
We've got a team now, and we're actually way better
positioned I think today for twenty twenty six and twenty
seven than we were at the start.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Of the day. I think we're way better positioned than
we were before.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
I think what has happened today has truly been astounding.
When they pulled off the Loreano and o'hear in trade,
and like, I mean, like there's small stuff too. Getting
will Wagner who for Brandon Valenzuela and Will Wagner who
is a twenty sixth man on the roster, but he's
he's so much better as your twenty sixth man than

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Tyler Wade or Jose Iglesias. And he has five and
a half years of team control.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
This is someone who.

Speaker 7 (18:54):
Fangrafts gave a fifty five to sixty rated hit tool,
Like that's something like the our twenty six men, literally
my entire fucking life are guys who it's like, well,
he's got a great work ethic and he's an amazing
on the glove, but he can't hit. Oh okay, yeah,
he's gotten a lot of speed and he's good, but
he can't hit. Now they got a guy who, like
his biggest strength is he can't hit. Is he can hit,

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and everything else is like a little bit more questionable.
And I'd way rather have that as an option off
of the bench so that when we're pinch hitting late
in games and we're having to play matchups and stuff, that, oh,
we have a guy who can actually hit. And it
cost us Brandon Valenzuela, who is never going to make
the big league team because if he wasn't going to
make the big league team at this point when we

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were playing Martin fucking Maldonado, he wasn't gonna make the
big league team. So yeah, that one, to me is
just a win. And that's a very small microcosm of
the little things that we were able to do today
to improve the outlook on the team. I mean, sexty
with a bunch of people, and like, I think there
are three really big like key, I don't know what

(19:58):
you want to say, pillars of like AJ Preller's philosophy
besides what we've already talked about in terms of like prospects,
our money, and like fuck them kids. One of them
is that more than any other general manager, I think
he rated present war over future war. Like future war
is theoretical to a lot of people and has a marginal,
you know, diminishing returns. But for AJ, it's like, I

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don't give a fuck if a guy's gonna be good
in twenty twenty eight. I don't care, Like I know
I can get a guy who's good right now today.
And I understand that relievers are volatile assets. And so
you're saying, okay, prospects might not turn it into anything.
But also relievers are volatile assets, et cetera. But just

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like the Won Soto trade, Mason Miller being a pottery
for four and a half years, well, guess what if
the team sucks in twenty twenty nine, you can trade
him and he'll get a fucking good return because he'll
probably be the best reliever on the market if he's
still pitching at that point. And that's the big if.
And you know, uh, you could say the same thing
for JP Sears if the Padres turned him into something.

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The team sucks in twenty twenty nine, guess what you
could or twenty twenty eight you could trade JP Seriares,
or the year of control left, you could trade Freddy
for me. And if you like, it still stays good
and they figure things out. Like this isn't just a
like we have sunk like costs and assets in like
we have. We have taken back assets who now also
have value that the team can do whatever they want

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with in what in whatever fashion will help the team
in the future. And then the last thing I'll say
ran it back to you both. I was like looking
at the Padres roster on roster resource and I'm thinking
who are the uh Padres players who are players who
have graduated from the pharm system. I'm not even saying

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that they had to be drafted by the team or
signed by the team initially. I'm just saying guys who
came up for most of their time or part of
their time from Double A to Triple A to Triple
A to the major leagues in the Padres farm system.
I have four guys on the team, Jackson Merrill, Fernando
tacI Junior, Adrian Morrihone and Jake Croninworth. What are those

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four guys all have in common?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
It care? Sorry? What was preface?

Speaker 7 (22:20):
These These are the only four players on the Padres
active roster who graduated from our farm system.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
I'm not even saying that they were drafted.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Corona Worth didn't play a game for there he because.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
That was because it was COVID though. That's because it
was COVID. Okay, you can take Jake Cronworth out. My
point still stands. I'm just trying to add Jake coroner
Worth to strengthen my point.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
But what are those guys all had in common?

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Moro Hoon, we drafted National sign.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
Morehone, Tatis traded for Merrill, we signed first round pick drafted.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I don't know what.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
They're all all stars.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh, they're all yeah, I mean they're All Star. Yeah, yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
They're they're all All Stars.

Speaker 7 (23:15):
And so agent Crewler says, if you can't become an
All Star, and even if.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
You can, you're fucking gone. You're a chip, a chance
for something else.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
That's the standard, like regular everyday MLB guys probably doesn't
give a fuck, Like he doesn't care.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
And now he's even more solidified for me.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
That's how we played two thirds of the season with
Tyler Wade and more team all than I'm going to
make my last point because you guys have made really
good ones, especially the fact that Cees Suarez Crone Arias
are all on the team. Like that is a fantastic
defense that you know, I can't get around. But this
team has shown it is unwilling to fill holes with

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even modest spending in free agency. Danny Janssen, Kligashioka, all
these catchers could have been addressed with money in the offseason.
All those holes could have been filled by taking on Monney.
Now that is what AJ's actions have proven. The team
will not do like that that is all I and

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for me, that goes back to the C suite and that's.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
All it is.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
And I wanted Leo DeVries to be untouchable because just
that's how I feel about him, and it's not really
going to go away. Mason Miller is an exciting guy,
but at the end of the day, like this club
showed its unwillingness to improve marginally by spending modest money.

(24:51):
And I think AJ's moves today, trading for guys with
accumulative like fifteen years, sixteen years of control at the
expense of you know, our entire starting pitching death and
you know, a solid half of our top thirty prospects
show the limitations that he has had.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
And I just wish those limitations were not. You know,
it could be buying the sky, it could be realistic.
I get it, honestly, Chris.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
I mean when they trade to tease to reduce salary,
when they trade, when they when they attach devrees to bogarts,
which is something my old boss used to say all
the time and I fucking hated it. Oh, we should
trade devrees and attach boguards for nothing and just reduce

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the salary. That's what you're talking about John Zeidler increased
just objectively, whatever you think about him or anyone else.
The payroll's gone up under John Sideler. And while they
made another I would say he.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
Though no if payroll went down one hundred million when
John Syler took control, like let's let's reset it went
in today when the twenty twenty two Padres had a
payroll that was one hundred million dollars more.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
The twenty three pods, the twenty three.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah, the twenty four Podreys went down, the twenty five
Podreys went up.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
That's all on John Tyler. That it's all on his watch.
It's all the same. That's not objectively true.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
He wasn't even in charge a year before Erict Spendem that's.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
The second year before.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Okay, yeah, absolutely unnecessarily so then.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
The money's gone up.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
They signed Paveta, they didn't trade the guys, and they've
added money and now they've built another super team. I've
done something for our audience.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
We spent a lot of time as a level three server,
and just about a week ago it dropped a level two.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think think it's a couple boosts away.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Right now we are literally denying people into the audience
because we're a level two server. There's a maximum stage
of one hundred and fifty, so they're literally closing the
door right now. If anyone out there wants to boost
what's going on, we can let in the people who.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Are trying to get in.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I keep getting this message over and over that says
the stage is full, you need to boost, and I'm
like trying to press my boost button.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I think I've done my boost.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
So if anyone wants to throw a boost out there,
we can get everybody in.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
But just wanted to let you know that, Okay, we've
gone big.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Let's let a couple of people up on stage here
and then we can get into some of the trades individually.
But hang on really quick before we do. What do
we have today?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Today?

Speaker 4 (27:56):
The starting rotation for the podres And just when I'm wrong, okay,
today the starting rotation for the padres is.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
King coming back.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
All right, I'm thinking of like two weeks in advance,
King coming back. Darvish Cease paveda sears mm hmm or
nasty nester.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
And that's what's heard, isn't.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
He he supposedly read? I just heard aj Preller's press conference,
he said he was pitching rehab starts. They had a
guy out at his rehab start. He's ready to go,
like he's finished his rehab. So Cortes is going to
be added to the big league roster, he said. Our
expectation is for him to make starts for our team.

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So I see it as when today Darvish Paveda, Sees Sears,
Cortes coming back King two weeks away, right and are
and Waldron is below that. Waldron's the next guy below

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that right now on the on the depth chart, right, oh,
I left that, Strandy left.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Strandy fersonality and so does Nestor.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
So today you Darvish Paveda, Strandy Sears Or Cortes.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Right would still and ceases still a padre yes, like
Strandy becomes like the fifth guy, unless you want to
make Nestor the big guy because it's Darvish Pavetta, Sears Cease,
Gang would be number five, and then Strandy becomes the

(29:52):
alcuy and Nestor becomes deaf. Nestor Cortez is just depth
through the team because they just traded away. There are
two other pieces of death, Stephen Collick and Ryan Berger.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
You've replaced them. You have replaced them. You've got now
Sears and Cortes. They have replaced Pullick and Berger on
the depth chart. You're going to add King back and
in the playoffs you would have King.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
You ce Pavetta as a big four.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Forgetting Joe Craig.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
And he's in the bullpen. He's in till next year. Okay,
complete game.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Shut our bullpen.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Our bullpen is everybody. We are now level three. We
have boosted, so you do not need to boost anymore.
We are boosted back.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
We have boosted. Thank you, Thank you, everybody, Thank you, everybody.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Our bullpen is Miller sworez Adam Estrada, Morahane, Yuki one Morgan.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Right, we didn't trade Morgan. No, he's a young, controllable water.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
We've hung onto. We've got an eight man bullpen. Now
that is awesome. Yuki's eighth best. Yuki's eighth best. All right,
and we've got a line up of to tease. Alright, Sorry,

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they're not gonna some things will never change. Okay, they're
still going to raise the flag over the irs building said.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
No quoting frozen two in this discord. I will time
out you Craig. I didn't even watch Frozen too. I
didn't know that I was.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
In there, uh to tease Arise Machado, Merrill, Loreano, O'Hearn,
cronin Worth, Fast Freddy. Who am I leaving out Bogarts?

(32:06):
Fucking Bogarts? So so cronin Worth and Fast Freddy are
the eight to nine for this team. And guess what
our bench has just turned into. Gavin Sheets off the bench. Yeah,
with the blacias, with maybe Willie Wagner's he's going to

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trip away. Okay, we're gonna be dusting some dudes off
this roster. We're dusting some dead weight off this roster.
Maybe Bryce Johnson sticks around, one of Diaz or Moldy
Martin's gonna stick around. And I'm sure it's Martin, just
because for the laughs all least the one who's hit

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the best of the last month. And wow, we improved
the bench because now you've got sheets off the bench
with a glaciers. You got two nice pieces off the
bench now right and left. Plus there could be a
day that Loreano isn't starting right, that you overload lefties

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against a guy who's split heavy, and you start O'Hearn
and sheets in the same lineup, and you sit Loreano
and now he's coming off the bench. So you've got
a real big leaguer coming off the bench. Now for
the Padres, you haven't really had that other than little
Slappy Jose all year. Now you've got a real power
threat on one of the other side every game guaranteed

(33:36):
that you're going to be able to bring out. You've
got a lineup that should have no holes now and
you know, we'll talk about fast ready, but uh, you know,
a lineup that should have no holes. You've got a
rotation that's improved, and you've probably got the best bullpen
in baseball.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yes, and the Dodger to did the Dodgers do jack shit?

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Okay, I'm looking at it, and it turns out that
Dodgers did indeed do jack shit. That's exactly what they did.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
The Dodgers did jack shit.

Speaker 7 (34:12):
To your point, Craig, like that this was like the
kind of the last thing, like this was a push
for the division. That's that they're spending money like this
because like they are only three games back at the
Dodgers and the Giants got a lot worse, and the
Padres have six or seven games remaining against the Giants
that they're going to play in August, back to back,

(34:34):
like alternating with the Dodgers. I saw Ben Higgins have
a tweet that said, the fifty three remaining games left
that the Padres have, thirty two of them are against
teams that were significant sellers at the deadline.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, the Giants are stashed in their gyms.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Well, you know, or when Blake Snell comes back, it's
almost as good as making the best trade at the deadline.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Don't you think we get king back when they get
snelled back?

Speaker 4 (35:06):
I think the Padres have enough to beat the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I think the Padres have enough to beat the Dodgers
and take one of the top spots in the National League.
We rebuilt last year's super pen, and honestly, Miller over
Tanner Scott I would say, are you kidding? Which one
throws one hundred three that you get to keep for
five seasons? Yep, Mason Miller, and he costs you nothing

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for nothing. That that that that you can build out
to a starter two years from now if you really
want to. But no matter what, when Suarez leaves, you've
got four horsemen next year.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yes, no matter what Mason Miller has said, just for
educational purposes that he will not be a starter unless
he gets a contract extension. Well, maybe we'll talk about
that extension maybe. Yeah, like that. That that is the
question posed.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Okay, I mean there's the world is wide open in
front of us.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
But all of that for devrees Bergert and Kolik.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Essentially plus a bunch of Billy Box bam And and
Madison Mershner and Krimmy Kressner's.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Name is Butterworth Bateman, Craig.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Was Kal fountainted. No, we saved Kale Fountain. We can
trade his ass next year.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Okay, just to throw it on there.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
I did talk a little bit with a Padre scout
today and this was his takeaway because he knows all
these guys. Just last week he was talking to me
how he's gotten to know, uh, you know with the
names he mentioned were Boston Bateman and Cob high Tower.
Those are guys that he knows and he's a big
fan of kill Fountain was his favorite. And he did

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not get trade. But his quote is actually kept. Eight
of his personal top fifteen. Of course one is gone,
three is probably four is gone, depending on how you
got him. So it's a top heavy culling of that fifteen.
But if any luck, the prospect depth will rise back

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up next year and we will be doing the exact
same thing as long as the padres you know, and
can film. Michael King and Phil and ceased next year.
It feels like JP Sears has already addressed one of
those departures quite elegantly, but you know there will be
another one. But that's the question for another day. You

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want to talk these trades or do we want to
hear a take? What do we want to do?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Here's what I want to do.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
I want to bring up a couple of big and
huge papers.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Thank you for boosting.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
We are now moving past the one hundred and fifty
in the stage at this point.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Thank you so much. Let's hear yeah, don't forget.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Joe Muscrof comes back next year too, and also in
the boardroom this year.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Here's Friar Goose. What's up? Friar Goose?

Speaker 9 (38:16):
Hey there, guys, can you hear me?

Speaker 10 (38:18):
Yes? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (38:19):
It sounded good? All right, guys, say so got back
of the stage yesterday. Was a little bit rushed, A
little bit rushed. I was in the middle of a
birthday party that had a power outage, which was, you know,
kind of fun, kind of fun. But I wanted to
give you a pro tip, special nugget. If you guys
think a bounty house is really fun and the kids party,
imagine a deflating bunch bounty house that is even more

(38:42):
far real life. A little nugget from far Anyways, but
back to it, guys, I went through the motions, you know,
I went through all the different stages of grief and
the different you know, I made the mistake, Craig of
listening in. You know, I saw you know, Racey's post
this morning, you know, the with the Leo trade. It
was ad that was kind of a gut punch, uh,

(39:04):
and Craig I did hit kind of rock bottom.

Speaker 11 (39:06):
With the Ferman trade.

Speaker 9 (39:07):
H You know, guys, I momentarily lost the faith I was.
I was.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I was confused.

Speaker 9 (39:14):
I was lost, wasn't sure what was going on right. Uh,
you know, I doubt it, guys. I doubted for a
few minutes. I said, you know, AJ, show me a sign, AJ,
tell me where we're going, show me the plan, reveal yourself.
And I am happy to say at the end of
the trade deadline, which I should have done like I

(39:34):
planned to. I made a mistake. I looked at it
throughout the whole day, guys. Very unproductive day for me. Today,
I'm feeling it, guys. I have I went through the
the Chris Reid reaction, through the Rayfee reaction, I have
now solidly landed at the Craig Elston reaction.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
We ride, guys. This is it.

Speaker 9 (39:52):
This is the team and we're going all in and
it's exciting. Guys. If anything, AJ really pre uses an
entertaining product, puts it on the field. The Padres are
an entertaining team and AJ himself entertains us. Guys.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
A question for this group, are you not entertained? Are
you not ed?

Speaker 12 (40:17):
Today?

Speaker 9 (40:19):
And here's a real question, He's a real question. Which
one of these you know new members of the Padres
do you nominate to be the Diebla Reclamation Project?

Speaker 10 (40:30):
Right?

Speaker 9 (40:31):
Because I behind a few of these trades, I can
see Ruben pushing the button. I can see Ruben, you know,
select a few of these guys saying, hey, J throw
this guy in. They won't even notice, they won't even care.
Which is the Diebla Reclamation Project? And last question, how

(40:51):
do you believe this group stacks up against our twenty
twenty four twenty twenty two padre team.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
That's what I got, guys, Thanks fier Goose.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
All right, what was your answer to his his second
to last question, Rayfee?

Speaker 7 (41:05):
Oh, the reclamation project is JP Sears. That's und you
can say. You can say Miller if you want, Like,
I don't think that that's a wrong answer, especially if
the hope is to convert him to a starter. But
I was posting this in the discord earlier. But JP
Sears has a ridiculously high fly ball rate. You know,
I think he has a fifty two point nine percent

(41:25):
fly ball rate this season. He has a career forty
nine point three percent fly ball rate. That sounds an
awful lot, like Nick Poveda to me, and I think
that they said, Okay, JP Sears, you're playing in a
literal minor league ballpark where it's one hundred degrees every
day in the summer and getting fucking clawbird. So yes,

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your era is close to five and you have one
point eight six home runs per nine innings. What's going
to happen when we bring you down to sea level,
down to the temperate shores of San Diego Harbor and
Peco Park where everything dies the warning track and you've
got the marine layer, maybe you'll have a result like
Nick Pivetta did, and guess what, you're under team control

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for three and a half more seasons. So I think
that there is a reason that there are other players,
by the way, on the A's that could have helped
the Padres. The Padres could have tried to trade for
shayl Angeliers and fill their catching hold need that way,
but they went for Mason Miller and JP Sears for
a reason. And I think that I think this is

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also an addendum to the Ferman trade, which is to say,
when the trade went through and the Padres tweeted it out,
Ruben able quote tweeted it with like two fist thumb
Emojis that a thumbs up for Mason Miller and JP Sears.
I think he wanted He specifically wanted those guys. And
I also think that if Ruben thought he could turn

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Stephen Kohlik or Ryan Bergert into the next Padres ace,
he'd tell aj and he'd say, hey, don't let these
guys go.

Speaker 13 (42:56):
Right.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
He must have seen something. They might They know their
guys like they like they know their guys. I know,
we get attached to them, but they know them and
they're not giving them up. If they're not saying, hey,
there's some sort of variability here that you know, maybe
this guy you know nothing, you know, maybe Ryan Berger
can't develop that changeup. Which if he can't, he's a reliever.
And if he's a reliever, who gives a shit?

Speaker 14 (43:19):
You know?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Right?

Speaker 6 (43:21):
So right, that's yeah, that's so it's jpcies.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
For me, right while address do you want to address
Friar Gruson's question about is this the best Padres team
of the past three years?

Speaker 4 (43:37):
I think I think it's to be determined here momentarily.
You know, I think we're being hyperbolic to make any
declaration today. But I feel like the argument would be
between last year's team and this year's team, because I

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thought last year's team was better than the two.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Team.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Yeah, with Jason and Iggy, you know, delivering ninetieth percentile outcomes.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Yeah, I don't know how O'Hearn and Lorianno are going
to play when they come here. That's why it's boo.
I can't make a decision. I don't want to be
like yes, they're automatically going to play better. I think
this team has a chance to be the best of
the group.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
I do.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
I think this bullpen is the best. Mason Miller's ridiculously
fucking good. And the fact that you can now utilize
him anywhere or they're going to make him the closer
and then you could utilize Suarez anywhere. I mean, the
optionality of this bullpen is now world series level. This

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is where you could you know, you could fall off
and whatever in this and you could just use this
bullpen and score a few runs, use this bullpen and
make it to the World Series, win the World Series
with a with this pen, just with this pin. The
five horsemen, we're gonna have to action five five guys.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
They're not overpriced.

Speaker 7 (45:14):
Fox Force five that's good.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I like Fox Sports.

Speaker 7 (45:19):
Fast five is probably is probably better or Filthy five.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
Filthy five, Filthy five.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I like that Fab five, the Fab bat five. They
Kurby coming through.

Speaker 7 (45:33):
With the Fab five is the most you know, that's
that's yeah, that's a classic.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Five figure death punch is pretty good. That's the one.
That's the one.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Because we gotta go with Tarantino. I there was a
person on our podcast called a PC is becoming a
padre for Rubin Diable to tinker with and Rafie, You've
got a quote from him this afternoon, and I think
it is a perspective that we haven't quite hit on yet.
Do you want to give that quote for for our audience?

Speaker 10 (46:05):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I do ever?

Speaker 6 (46:06):
Pulled up from Dylan? Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:12):
I got a text from Dylan from Letters a j
Our guests last week and I happen to agree with him,
and he said this quote, what the Padres have done
the past four years is simply the most interesting set
of moves any team in any sport has done. Not
attaching a positive or negative valence to that statement, just

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noting it. As a huge fan of all of the
major sports, I think he's right, like in the context
of like I don't even know like what the like
NBA or NFL equivalent or NHL equivalent or MLS equivalent
of like what the Padres are doing is. But like
they've like rearranged these deck chairs on the on the

(46:56):
on the ship.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Every year he's got a yeah, every year he goes
all in somehow.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, right, yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Yeah, here's another patron. Here's Gavin Sheets slugs. Let's bring
him up for his thoughts. We can still hit these
trades individually too, Gavin Sheets, what's Gavin Chet's slugs? What's
sorry about your benching? But how are you?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
No?

Speaker 13 (47:23):
No problem? We can slug from the bench. We can
still slug from the bench.

Speaker 12 (47:27):
That's right, can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yes? Perfect, all right, all right?

Speaker 13 (47:32):
So I got some I got some some thoughts and
and some takes on two of the I mean, I
think everybody's fine with the Orioles trade. Don't really have
to go about that. Of course, getting Cortes for b
Lock fine. But I think my biggest take on the
first two trades is that I trust in AJ.

Speaker 12 (47:55):
And also AJ is the guy that got us there.

Speaker 13 (48:00):
He put in the really hard work and he you know,
was doing late night trips to the Dominican Republican doing
all his crazy shit.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
So if he.

Speaker 12 (48:11):
Mason Miller's worth it, I trust him.

Speaker 13 (48:14):
And for me to be attached to Debrez, he's way
more attached to Debrees than I am, So I mean,
I think that's definitely okay. Also, top top fourteen prospects,
they don't necessarily pan out. I mean, I think Luis
Patino was eighteen when we traded him or something. And
you know, you just look at at eight years ago,

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seven years ago, five years ago, all the top twenty prospects.
It's littered with guys who were okay major leaguers, right,
And if Debris is good, if he's good but not great,
then I would rather have good now.

Speaker 12 (48:53):
And maybe he's.

Speaker 13 (48:54):
Great, but I doubt you know, but that's but that's
not certain.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
So Gavin Sheets likes both two point and a little against.
It is like Leo de Frize is number five on
Baseball America and the last time a number five was
traded was almost a decade ago. That I was in
twenty seventeen when Eloy Jimenez was traded. So Eliway Jimenez

(49:17):
like functional major league baseball player for many years. And
now if he had been the deadline acquisition we got,
we'd all be very disappointed.

Speaker 13 (49:28):
Maybe yeah, I guess, I mean, but like ELOI, Jimenez
kind of flamed out. He was not a Fernando Tattoos
point never ending superstar, you know, so so I think
and he was number five. I mean I was looking
at Fangraft. I think he's like fourteen on Baseball America,
I mean on MLB dot com. There's some differential ratings,

(49:49):
but you know, not like a number one can't miss.
He's not you know, Jackson Holiday or you know, Roman
Anthony or something. But anyway, the second point, though, a
lot of people were okay with the trade when we
were just trading Burger for for Mean, and I think
MLB trade values the trade machine, fuck the fuck machine.

Speaker 12 (50:10):
Obviously that that was fine.

Speaker 13 (50:12):
And then when it came in that Colic was also
in the discord, just blew up.

Speaker 12 (50:17):
It was like, oh my god, Colic, Oh my god, Colic.
I got a year ago.

Speaker 13 (50:22):
Colic was a rule five guy with like a nine
e R or something. Yeah, And and AJ was the
one who believed in him and sort of you know,
stuck it, stuck stuck with him and didn't trade him
and didn't release him. And and so I think AJ
has the right to attach him if if, if he
thinks for Mean is gonna be the difference maker. You know,

(50:43):
and and Petris were expensive, you know, I mean, Jansen
got signed and then traded, but he wasn't cheap, you know,
I think catchers weren't cheap. This this deadline, So I
just wanted to to get that out there. And lastly,
I just wanted to say that the the discord was awesome.

Speaker 12 (51:01):
This today, I think so many of us were just
glued in there.

Speaker 13 (51:04):
I worked today, quote work, but I think I was
probably staring at my phone for seven hours, like and honestly,
I looked up and three hours had passed.

Speaker 12 (51:13):
That's what it felt like.

Speaker 13 (51:14):
So you guys, props, props for for putting this together,
for keeping it going through you know, some tough times,
and it was it's just been awesome. And this is
a very awesome group of people to be around and
to chat with and and awesome to get my thoughts
up too.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
So I just wanted to appreciate you guys. Thanks, thank
you so much. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Gavin Sheets slugs ahead.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Yeah no, and we like go through them because I'm still,
you know, a little hazy. I was at the beach
while this was going down the.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Last hour and a half, so sure, staying cute everybody,
we already said this would probably be a two hour show.
Well let's go chronologically then, I guess, and we'll start
with and someone pull it up tell me if I'm wrong.
But it's Mason Miller and JP Sears for Devrees, braiden Net, Eduardiez,

(52:15):
and one more.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Right, Henry Bias.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Henry literally don't know who that is. We used to
have another guy named Bias too for the Yeah, well
I'm sure good for him. Yeah, okay, so so Bias
braidon Net. You know, people have been talking about braiden Net.

(52:42):
Maybe he'll be a big leaguer, maybe he won't. Edwardiunez
looks like he's a potential major league bolten arm nothing
like Mason Miller is uh. Sears has years of control.
Miller has years of control. Do they each have four
total years?

Speaker 7 (52:59):
No, Stears has three and a half and Miller has
four and a half.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Okay, so more seasons beyond this, yeah, and Mill four
seasons beyond this.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
He used the.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
Language of twenty twenty two. Mason Miller has five playoff
runs and JP Sears has four playoff runs.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Okay, okay, without question, I think Mason Miller is the
most interesting and kind of important player.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Overall that the Padres got.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
This is the player that they have for the longest
amount of time that has that would be the most
in line with the AJ prelers starfucker syndrome. Uh you know,
deadline acquisition, the guy that his scout eye just can't
stop loving right Mason Miller literally throws one hundred three
miles an hollur h He's last year was basically unhittable.

(53:57):
He had a rough stretch at one point this season,
but he's been on a scoreless run for a while. Now.
You know, but last year two point four r one
hundred four strikeouts and sixty five innings thirty six hits
allowed a FIP of two point one eight. This year's
FIP is two point eight six, almost a full run

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below where his era is at three point seventy nine.
This year, he's been slightly more hittable, but really not
a five inning hits per nine inning last year four
point nine this year. The walks have been a little
up this year, but he has averaged thirteen point two
strikeouts per nine innings in his career. He has actually
given up a pretty decent clip to lefties this year,

(54:44):
but he's destroyed righty's right. He's hit one forty one
against him. Left he's only hit one ninety six, but
they've slugged four ninety. He's given up four homers in
fifty one at bats to left handed batters, and Jackson
Merroll probably tease him about that when the two see
each other.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Done last year.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Here's another thing that I think is really important though.
This year, Mason Miller has allowed a six forty two
OPS at the minor league ballpark, and when he's pitched
in big league ballparks, he's allowed a one to eleven average,
two twenty two slug and a four to ninety one
OPS overall. So when I'm in a big league ballpark,

(55:26):
he has been absolutely dominant. This is a player that,
as you said, you know he has talked about I
won't be converted into a starter unless I get an extension.
The last guy I heard talk like that was Garrett Crochet.
He got converted, he got an extension, he got traded
to a team that would give him one. The Padres

(55:49):
have shown an ability to give players extensions. And if
there was one coach and coaching staff that a Mason
Miller would trust to get converted, it would be the
group that already did it with Lugo at all here
in San Diego. So I think for me, it really

(56:10):
hurts to give up Debrees. The other guys will see,
you know, that's just to me, it's prospect talking.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
If you know, I don't know Brandon that like, okay, maybe.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
There's no such thing as a pitching prospect. There's only
what you can really do. So Dvrees hurts to give up.
Now he goes to a shit system, and too bad
for him. But for us, we got an arm that
we control twenty five, twenty six, twenty nine, the entirety

(56:44):
of the decade, and sears for most of that as well.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
You got a lot back. You gave up a lot,
but you got a lot back.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
Mason Miller last had serious injury concerns in twenty twenty
five before his big league debut, was shut down for
a little bit with a UCL sprain that got rested,
and the guy has come back and been the hardest
thrower in Major League Baseball since. So while you can't
entirely put that to rest, he's healthy now and the

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injury prior that he lost time at the major league
level was slamming a table with his non pitching hand fist,
so it shows he's got a little bit of intelligence
to him, at least if you're going to slam a table,
you use the right hand, So we got that going
for him. Would you like to get to the Royals

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trade because I have.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
A few times.

Speaker 7 (57:41):
Well, I just want to say one quick thing about Devrees,
which is that Devrez hurts. I'm not gonna try and
polish a turd that that.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I think he's going to be like I think he's
going to be a star, like he.

Speaker 7 (57:53):
Very well could be a lot of people think so.
I personally, I think that if Leo Deree sticks at shortstop,
it's a gut punch. But a lot of people think
he's not gonna stick at shortstop. A lot of people
think he's gonna grow out of the position. And if
he doesn't play shortstop, where does it make the most

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sense for him to land. Probably center field, maybe right field,
which is occupied by the Padres, and they don't really
have a need there. They have a need for a
guy who can play a good shortstop five years from now.
And if they don't think Leo Derees can do that, well, yeah,
he might be a generational hitter. I don't want to
again polish a turd, but it's not as acute for

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the Padres as it is for you know, maybe another
team and like, yeah, like the Athletics, they're gonna want
them to play on theoderees, to play shortstop in Las
Vegas or the Moon or wherever the fuck they're playing.

Speaker 6 (58:47):
But yeah, that's just the last thing I'll say. Let's
talk about the Worlds trade.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
Well, real quick, you make a great point. Sander Bogart's
is a top fifteen defensive player in Major League Baseball
this year at all across all positions. And I don't
know if that's part of what they're thinking, is is like, hey,
our window or Xander plane shortstop just went out a
little bit more.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
But maybe that's it.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
On to Freddy for me because I've got some intel
from Royals fans for us.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Okay, this is the one that Freddy for Mean is
going to have to convince me. Okay, because on the surface,
this field from the outside for a guy that I'm
going to be straight up has not watched a lot
of Freddy for Mean play, Okay, this feels like the

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Nola trade. This feels like buying high on a guy
who's thirty years old, based on limited sample and lots
of control, who each year that he's been in the
big leagues. His numbers have gone down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Now.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Royals fans and I've seen Royal staff, and I've seen
Royals scout players, staff, executives, whatever they think that Freddie
Forman has been blocked behind Salvador Perez and is ready
to flourish. And if he's gonna come out and show
us that, guys, then I will do my Freddy for

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mean apology down the road. But I also remember Austin
Nola coming out in two weeks later hitting like three hundred,
and I'm like, oh, it's Jason Kendall revisited, like, oh,
I'm so sorry, And no, my initial impression was right.
My initial impression is we really really overpaid to get
Freddy Forman, who I understand his defensive metrics look really good,

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but fuck if I haven't heard about that about the
two guys we've had, you know, so I don't even
know what to make of that. Necessarily, I saw in
stratamatic last year he was rated two with a minus
four ARM, so he should be an arm upgrade over
both Diaz and Maldonado. At one year he hit too eighty,
another year he had two seventy. The last two years
he had a seven twenty ops. This year his OPS

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is in the six hundreds, and he said, kind of
like any decent version of Diazramaldonado. So I I don't
love this. There's a potential for me to hate it.
And I think we gave up a ton of value
potentially in Bergert and Colik, guys that I would have

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loved to have stuck around and been part of the
depth of the Padres going forward.

Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
Okay, well, I just want to offer the devil's advocate
of my gut feeling, Craig Is. I don't necessarily disagree
with you, but like, let's put the positive spin on this.
It's got the half full version of this, which is
that if I came to you a year ago and
I said we can take Stephen Klik and Ryan Berger

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and turn him into a seven hundred career OPS catcher
with good defense, you would say, Stephen Kolik the Rule
five draft pick, who's on the phantom il right now
because he's too bad to play. And I'm sorry, who
was the second guy? Because guess what, Ryan Berger was
not a was not even a ranked prospect for US

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at this time last year from Fangrafts, maybe some other outlets,
but like so yeah, I mean, look, I think that
good organizations take advantage of the lottery ticket hits that
they have and figure out how to deploy them. And
in a way, you can say that the Padres aren't
doing that by giving up on these assets. But at
the same time, these are these are this is found

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money that the Padres have played with to potentially show
up a critical weakness. And yeah, maybe he's not that good.
Maybe for me he's not that good. But if he
is a seven hundred ops guy, which is he's a
career obs of six ninety seven, Like, if he's that guy,
it's the best Padres catcher that we've had since who

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Mike Piazza.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
The OSMANI grand.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
If I'm not wrong, Rafie, he hit really well in
his first year, which is when he had the most
consistent playing time due to a Perez injury. Let me
get to the impressions of die hard lifelong Kansas City
Royals fan and a former star of the Shield, David

(01:03:21):
reef Snow when I told him about this tweet, this
is what about this trade? This is what Dave had
to say. I love Freddy Ferman, great defensive catcher. He's
got a decent bat too, tremendous bunter. Just a really
good player, really smart, great thrower, great framer. And you

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may have given up too much. I don't know, but
Fermn is really easy to root for. We had Maldonado's
I primary catcher. When Salvi missed a year with rotator
cuff surgery, it was death. Every time he came to
the plate, you were positive that he was gonna get
it out. Familiar to anybody? Does that ring a l
padres fans for men. Maybe his numbers aren't great, but

(01:04:03):
it feels like he's a guy you want up in
a big situation. Hope he does great. Big fan of
his and in our discord, in the initial reaction, I
saw that people lamenting that. For men was thirty first
and fangrass War this year among catchers and number one.
He's a backup. He doesn't play every day. F Or

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is an accumulating stat like if you're playing good, you
get more as you play, and if you're doing bad,
you get negative as you play. So if he's in
the positive and only playing a little bit, that could
very well be a result of him not playing enough,
and as far as him being thirty first among catchers, well,
Stephen Kollik was two hundred and sixty sixth Excuse me,

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Stephen Kollik was one hundred and fifty eighth among pitchers
and Ryan Bergert was two hundred and sixty six So
if you want to use that metric, you know it's
a win.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
It does feel like a lot because we had done nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
But he stoked about the emergence of these two guys
to be rotational death for the Padres in the next
few years and be cheap and controlling, controllable. But the
fact is that this dude is an instant upgrade over
one of those two catchers that we have, and he's

(01:05:22):
going to have the majority of the playing time. So
him batting knife. I know both the catchers have been
on singles heaters, and Diaz just had to walk off
a few nights ago, and Maldonado has had some key hits.
I still see the larger sample size behind it. We're
coming up on the hottest time of year. These guys
are older, older dudes for me, and maybe kind of

(01:05:44):
an old guy was for considering how much control he has.
He's already thirty years old. But unlike Austin Nola, he's
a lifelong catcher. He played that position in his entire life.
He's not some weird convert that's going to be learning
it on the fly that may have great instincts for it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
He's a dude who knows the position.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
And you know, could still come into us all as
a professional. And the longer I sit with this, and
after listening to what David had to say about it,
I feel a lot better about this move than I
did when we first saw that Kolik was also going
in the trade.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Well, fair enough, I'm still going to say I'm a
little down on this one. But Kansas City people don't
realize this sometimes, but Kansas City is in Missouri, the
show me state, and that is going to be my
take on this trade.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Is I need show me from Freddy for me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
He needs to show me that he is, in fact,
that gutty, dependable chemistry building the starting catcher that's going
to help this team for the next four years. And
he very well may be that. And if he is that,
this is going to very well turn into an even
trade or even a good trade. If Burgett or Colick

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failed to develop further than they have so far. But
right now, I think it was an overpay and I
think one of those guys should have been enough to
get Freddy for me, and I'm shocked it took both
of those guys to get Freddy for me. And yeah,
you're right, tell me last year, you know, tell last
year's me about Colic. But if you told this year's
me that Colic was playing so well, you know, bitching

(01:07:26):
so well, I would say, Okay, we really made a
great move last year. And I was impatient last year
and I should have listened to older me. Okay, what
about Baltimore, Okay, what about getting Yeah, let's get into
this trade.

Speaker 7 (01:07:43):
I gotta take the rock on this one because I
feel like I've earned it this year with like what
I have been begging and pleading this team to do,
which is find a way to hit dingers. And finally
the Padres have thump for people who are not familar.
So again, the full trade is Ryan O'Hearn and Ramon Loreano.

Speaker 15 (01:08:05):
Four.

Speaker 7 (01:08:05):
Going back to Baltimore, Boston, Bateman Cobb High Tower, Victor Figueroa,
Tyson Neighbors, Brandon Butterworth, Tanner Smith, three of those names
I had heard previously in my life before. Okay, so
we are getting Ramon Loreano and Yin O'Hearn for that
whole mess of guys. Ryan O'Hearn this season has a

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four to sixty three slugging percentage and an expected slug
of four seventy eight. He has an eight thirty seven
ops right now. That makes Ryan O'Hearn the third highest
slugger on the Padres. Okay, Ramone Loreano this season has
a slugging percentage of five twenty nine with an expected

(01:08:48):
slugging percentage of five point thirty one. He has an
eight eighty four ops. Ramone Loreano is now the highest
slugger on the San Diego Padres. The Padres have their
first and third highest slugger, and if you want to
go by expected results, well, guess what. Loreano's right behind
Manny Machado with the second highest expected slug and O'Hearn

(01:09:09):
is the fifth behind Gavin Sheets.

Speaker 6 (01:09:13):
So there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:09:15):
The Padres finally have thump and they have thump down
in their lineup. I think what this also should be
mentioned that Ryan O'Hearn, who primarily plays first base, when
he plays in the field, is an excellent first base defender.
He's ninety third percentile according to Statcasts in terms of
his out above average at first base. And right now

(01:09:37):
the Padres are primarily playing Luisa Riaz, who is I
think fourth percentile and one of the worst fielding first basemen.
So is this trade for me is the test of
Mike Shilt and his philosophy as a manager, because by
all accounts, Ryan O'Hearn should be playing first base and
Luisa Ria should not be hitting in the two hole anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
That this is the the.

Speaker 7 (01:10:01):
Critical moment that I I we need to see the
change from the Padres, and if they're going to continue
to play Luis Arise at first base and continue to
hit Louise Rise in the two hole, I'm worried, and
I'm worried that this will all be for not because
that means we're going to continue to deploy bad strategies
when we have fixed the solutions, or we have fixed

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the holes essentially and have solutions.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
So well, who would you bad second? Who would you
beat second?

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:10:29):
I probably bat Tatis second because I probably wouldn't be
hitting him lead off.

Speaker 10 (01:10:34):
Uh So.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
Who it's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
I just wrote a lineup and I like it, and the.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Rise is still okay, tell me it's to Tase Machado, Okay,
oharn Loreano, Merrill, Bogart's cronin Worth catcher. So I've got now.
I think the top of the order is good. I
think it's always been good. Rise with the bon SI's
an idiot, I know. But Tatisa Rise Machado. Now you've

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got the power of o'hearne fourth, and he's protected by Loreano,
and you get to push Merril all the way down
to sixth. Then Bogarts is out of the middle of
the lineup. He's hitting seventh now, which is perfect for
what he can do. Now you got cronen Worth and
Diaz at the bottom. This is a lineup that attacks

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you one through nine. That's got power in the one, three, four, five,
and then six, seven, right, and then Crony's got his
you know, dozen homers or whatever in the eight.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Uh. I mean you could you could put you could maryl.

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
When Tatis comes up lead off.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
There you go like he has no sect you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Guys know, Yeah, So let's let it's the it's the
biggest mistake. It's what Rafie's talking about. If Mike Shild
keeps hitting him second and he has not learned Jack
hit for the first two thirds of the season, and
that's where we're we're wasting.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
But AJ is done.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
I sure, yeah, but you know what, every time Merril
has gone up in the lineup, he started to overdo it,
and words he's done it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Four games. He hasn't had any chance.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Yes, in the force. Body hasn't hit for either. He
hasn't done well in the body. Go ahead, How great
can he be hitting six when he hits when he
gets red hot second?

Speaker 9 (01:12:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
When he he was the second best hitter on the
baseball team last year and they hit him six and
then they went twenty four innings without scoring in the playoffs,
It's done.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Let's not do that. And clearly one was the was
the cause of the other. So I'm just saying I wanted.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
My only input on this Orioles trade is if this
were the only move AJ had made the entire deadline,
I would have said it was an absolute win. If
this was the only thing they did was focused on
getting the two bats and doing it successfully, and I
would have felt great about the whole thing.

Speaker 7 (01:13:21):
I don't disagree with Chris. I think that's I think
that that's correct. Well, I think no, hmm. If they
did this and they did.

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
The for mean trade, I would also be fine with it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Here's the thing, though, I mean, I don't necessarily disagree
with you, guys, but the Millard trade does give you
so many years of control, nine years of control between
two good pictures. There's a lot there. What the hell
just happened? Why is my phone connected?

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Now? You can HI everyone being on the phone. We
don't know why the study all of a sudden we
got off the dolly.

Speaker 5 (01:14:09):
Yeah, the steady cam opsning.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
That was weird. That was just strange. I don't know
why that happened.

Speaker 6 (01:14:18):
Anyways, I felt like being n Malkovich for a second.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Yeah, it was like, hey, documentary you didn't know is
being filmed of this of this podcast. But I think
just overall, I like what I like where we wound
up overall, So it's hard for me to separate one
from the other.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
But I don't disagree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
But we would have been shakier, and we would have
had three horsemen next year, and we would have had
one fewer rotation spot because there's no replacement for Cease.
Now there's a replacement for cease.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Now, now there's a four horsemen next year with a
replacement for Swore. So they really did a lot of
good long term work into this deadline, which makes it
less of an all in to me than even last year.
Last year was more of an all in with some
rental players that came for a lot of control going
out the door.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
I think there's been some control.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Okay, so Miller done, Baltimore guy's done, Royals guys done.
The weird trade is with Milwaukee, Brandon Lockridge out, Nasty
Nester is in. Apparently the Brewers agreed to pay down

(01:15:40):
Cortes's salary to the MLB minimum. As part of the trade,
the Padres sent outfielder Brandon Lockridge and also, and I
heard aj Preller talk about it, the Padres got minor
league shortstop JR. Hiquintana as part of the deal, an
eighteen year old who he has scouted and looked at
and is pretty excited about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
That one is fun because the Brewers have two shortstop
prospects that are among the best in baseball, and they're
like overflowing at the position, So you know, heyes, who's
my day? And I think his name is Louis Pana.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
So if this dude is the odd man out, but
the same scouts have been looking at him, that's kind
of fun. We also have the the Padres just hoarding
Hall of Fame closer's progeny.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Oh, the Will Wagner, Right, that's the one I was
just I've just been like scouting this ut page, like
am I missing one?

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
And that was it Will Wagner? For who do we
give up in that one?

Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
Brandon Valenzuela.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
There you go, the catcher, Brandon Valenzuela, and Will Wagner
is a useful piece that could be a bench piece,
much like Brandon Lockridge was a useful piece that was
on the playoff roster as a piece last year, and
he could easily replace Tyler Wade and get the job done.
So all like, I felt like, as the day went on,

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the trades just got progressively and progressively better for San Diego,
And it was the thing I had expected. But guys,
the thing I really had expected was that we were
going to get this prospect drain at the start of
the day, and we were going to get this feeling
of pain and then it was going to be well,
we traded cease, but look at these guys that we

(01:17:32):
got back, and we were supposed to dream on those
guys and go, okay, we replenished the farm system.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
AJ and Chris Camp don't have to work that way.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
They worked relentlessly through the international market and the amateur
free agent market to continuously replenish the battery and continuously
rebuild the dominion deck. And next year when they need
to come up with the eight coins that they need
to buy, not the Duchy, but the whatever the thing is,

(01:18:04):
the high priced one you get, the castle or whatever,
they'll have it. They'll have it again, they'll have it
again next year, and they'll have it again the year after.
And while we can go look out at the flourishing
tree of potential players that could have been Padres, how
many of them would have guaranteed contributed to a championship

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level team.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
This year, next year, the year after.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
I don't think you could say any of them, even Devrees,
was guaranteed to contribute to a winning team, be able
to step in to a winning championship team and contribute
maybe debrees, maybe degrees. Maybe at the end we'll say yeah,
just like James Wood Province.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Thank you gopods. Y know, they'll have the eight coins
to buy the province.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
But the rest of it is, I have no idea
whether any of these guys are going to play, but
I know that this Padres team is ready to go,
and I think it's ready to compete with the Mets,
the Phillies, the Dodgers, the Cubs, the Brewers to win
the National League pennant this year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
And that's what they promised.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
That was the Peter Sideley promise was every year, fight
for the world's championship. And this team fought for it
in twenty two. They fought for it. In twenty three
they fucked up. They came back, They fought for it
last year, and they are fighting for it this year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
You know they fought.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Yeah, this team is really good. This is fucking's ever been.
The lineup one through nine is good. The rotation is
the biggest question mark. But if they get King back
and he's healthy and ce Ce's is probably playing at
his twentieth percentile right now, like they get any I mean,
go to your Blake Snell quota.

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
Well, or if they get Blake Snell back at the deadline.
That might be the best acquisition of the trade deadline. Well,
what if they get Dylan Cease pitching at his A
level back, What do you think about that?

Speaker 7 (01:20:03):
That's another starter you're getting essentially, So anyway, I think
we should.

Speaker 6 (01:20:08):
I think we should get to the phones at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Yeah, let's do it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
I think we went through all the trades, and the
biggest thing is I just wanted to look at in
the end, what went out. Okay, nine out of thirty
top prospects according to Baseball America went out Dvrees, Bateman,
net High Tower, Burger Nunez, Biez, Neighbor Figueroa.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
You get one back, But what do you have now?

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
You still got Salas, You still got the kids you
drafted before. You still got the kid you signed Umberto Cruz.
You still have the great Kale Fountain, still have Bradley Rodriguez,
who flashed to the big leagues this year. You hung
onto Morgan, You still got Sean Reynolds. I think this
team's really well positioned going forward. I think they're better

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position than they were at the start of the year,
and I think they've got ready made remedies now for
the obvious departures that are happening at the end of
the year. Let's fucking go all right, big patrons paid
for the right to move in line, so just accept that.
But here we go. We're gonna go through everybody. Everybody
in line is getting in, so here we go. We're

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starting with Lord Helix. Thank you for waiting, Lord Helix.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Welcome to the show, Lord Helix.

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
Yeah, your Presidence has requested my lord me.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Lord you've you might have to leave and come back
into the discord God sometime.

Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
Right, we'll get you. We'll get you on the next
go around.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
All right, here comes Memes next up Arable Padres and
he's muted.

Speaker 16 (01:21:59):
What t PM, I am very pumped like Raypie sounds
almost like giddy, like you know, a kid on Christmas morning.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
It's amazing.

Speaker 14 (01:22:12):
The thought that Warez is, like now one of our
weak links in the bullpen is absolutely my well, uh,
I would put him at the bottom of the five.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
So you know, uh, he's going to be the closer.
I guarantee it, Like I still the closer on this team.

Speaker 14 (01:22:42):
But one thing and an idea that kind of came
up with today that's kind of stuck with me.

Speaker 12 (01:22:48):
Is you know, the Pucks fans, we have.

Speaker 14 (01:22:51):
Gotten so used to prospect hugging to the point where
we would watch him grow up and then when they
they would make the big big league team, and then
eventually we would trade them away and we'd have to
look to the next thing. We did trade them away
for more prospects, right, and that was kind of the
route that we always took. That is no longer the

(01:23:11):
case with this team, and I think, you know, some
of us have had to like do like a mental shift.
It's like, this is no longer the case that we
are are are you know? I guess you guys put
it the best. These guys are currentcy now and we
all thought, you know, Leo was untouchable or close to it.

(01:23:34):
But when you look at a guy that touched one
oh four and still has you know, five playoff runs
in him, you can't say that we got screwed on
the on the return. And obviously hindsight's always twenty twenty,
so we don't know now. But man, this team is
so complete and I'm right there with you guys. You know,

(01:23:54):
had they kind of stopped there, I would have I
would have been a little past mystic or a little
bit weary, but you know, adding on orgo's parade. Screw it, man,
if they need to, you know, stop Lake Elsinore games
for a little bit before they restock or whatever, because
they don't, you know, I'm sure they can pull some
guy out of McDonald's go play for him. But such

(01:24:18):
a good such a good day.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
Anyways, that's it, love it memes, Thank you man, thanks
for coming up. Uh, well, we'll keep it rolling. But
I just agree. I think this is a really exciting day.
I'm starting to see the winners and losers and this
ers and batters. And you know, this morning, some of
the folks who love to write badly about the Padres

(01:24:40):
just couldn't wait to put out a thousand words about
the Mason Miller trade and what a disaster it was.
And I saw shean right, Well, they didn't help their team,
they didn't improve their team. And everyone was writing because
they're like, well, they got Millard, but now they're going
to trade Suarez for some minor league prospects that you'll
never hear about. So they'll have just traded Suarez for
Miller and that's only you know, marginal improvement, if an

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improvement at all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
But they didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
They kept them all and I'm sorry. I'll put my
pen against the LA pen, you know, like I think
that this team can put out better arms the Mets pen.
The Mets pen is really good, Hellsley setting up Diaz,
Gregor Risoto, Tyler Rodgers, like they've got some good stuff

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in that bullpen. I like ours better. I think if
the Padres have a lead in the fifth, they're gonna
win just about every game now. And they've given themselves
so much more of an opportunity to have a lead.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Let's welcome back, Lord Helix. Welcome back.

Speaker 17 (01:25:48):
Can you hear me now? Yes, yeah, yeah, I don't
have any super hot takes or anything. I will say
I was nervous how all this, Like I said, I
felt kind of stupid. I was in there, like what
happens if nothing actually happens, And now we're here, Well,

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I got to give a gotta have huge props to
San Diego's own Tony Montana Aj Peler, hopefully sitting there
with bags of his favorite recreational substances. But goddamn, it's exciting. Shit.
I'm looking forward to drowning myself in some banana pudding
tomorrow at the park seeing whatever the hell Mike Chill can.

Speaker 10 (01:26:28):
Come up with.

Speaker 17 (01:26:28):
And yeah, I mean even my dad, who is probably
the most conserved Padres fan, you know, the most skeptical, said,
we're fucking taking the league. You know, we're taking the dependant.
So I think we think we got how it takes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
It has been a little while since we talked Fangrass
playoffs odds on this show, and the Padres are now
up to seventy three point five percent.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
The e odds were one hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Here is MTL Ryan joining us with the Canadian perspective
on today's moves.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
How are you?

Speaker 18 (01:27:12):
I'm I'm doing great. And you know what, when aj
Preller has the chance to absolutely rummage through the depths
of Kaufman Stadium and pull out a leader, somebody with
intangible qualities that are gonna lead your team to victory,
He's gonna do it. Yes, you know, like the I

(01:27:37):
War coming out of Kaufman is undeniable, and I for
one think that the Ferminator is going to be the
most important acquisition that we've gotten. So I don't, uh,
I don't. The proof is in the pudding, right, Like
you can see it in his eyes. He's just He's
just the guy. So between him and Maldonado, I just

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know our pictures are gonna continue to thrive on this,
on this major league roster.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Ah. I love how you said that. Between he and Maldonado,
how dare you it might be? Listen a quick poll
with MTL Ryan here. Who are you boys? Who are
you getting rid of?

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
Who's getting that good old delta foxtrot Alpha?

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
Let me tell you something, be cuz your votes, all
your votes are nice and dandy, and I invite you
to make all your votes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
My vote counts for five.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
My vote is five times Martin Maldonado. The end of
the day, he rubs my feet at the end of
every day, he's gonna me personally, Elston, I'm cutting Martin Maldonado.
I'm saying, thank you so much, thank you so so
much for your service. Can you leave your algorithm and

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freddie for means locker.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
On the way out? He God, We've got a quick
at USBC. We need to plug into the back of your.

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
Head what you've stolen all of my talent?

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Too bad, too late.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
I think that's the only option to be honest with you,
because it's not gonna happen. They'll cut theaz tomorrow. Who
am I kidding? Here's Von Swagger, Hello, Von Swagger.

Speaker 10 (01:29:20):
Hello, Hello. I've got two things. We're all one silly serious.
I'm gonna start with the silly. A few years ago,
I was living in Kansas and the Padres traded for
Tim Hill, and I happen to be at a Royals
game in their Memorialbilia shop and I got a Tim
Hill autographed baseball for fifteen dollars. So if you're living

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across the country like I am, you know, maybe stop
by your local Baltimore Oriols or some other park and
see if you can snag something like a Ryano here
and autograph ball or something serious. What I've looked at
with who we just got. What do Ryan O'Hearn, Ramon Leiano,

(01:30:06):
and Nestor Cortez have in common? They all have all
star Oh sorry, they all have playoff experience. And that's
that's something that I got over with Ryan Berger and
Stephen Kolok really because they they I mean, they might
be more effective than Z's in the playoffs, but they

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still don't have playoff experience and neither do a lot
of the guys that are getting pushed out of the
twenty six man roster now too.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Two cents, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
I think now the playoff experience that o'harn has had
has been to see Baltimore lose twice and fail in
series that they were favored. So I'm not a big
fan of that experience. Loriano has been what with some
A's teams in the playoffs, Well that didn't work out either,
so you know, but still it's nice to have been

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there and have popped your cherry and not you're not
gonna freak out potentially uh the first game. I just
think that the depth is there now. I mean, like,
come on, guys, we've been running out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Let's just pour one out for a second.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Jason Hayward, Connor, Joe Brandon Lockridge, right sheets for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Bryce Johnson like Loriano's better than all of them. The
chat would like to remind us Greg unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
Right Oh, her is for Julie, Like we had a
Yuli and now we've got O'Hearn.

Speaker 6 (01:31:45):
Juli Gurriela. I haven't heard of this. This is someone
who's Jui Burril.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Thank you, Gavin Cheets that was the one I was
trying to think of, Oscar Gonzalez, Terso Ordinellis.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
All of these guys have tried.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
To take left field this year, every single one of
them soft spot for whomever. Someone didn't get a chance,
Trenton Brooks, They're gone. They're all gone. They're gone. Loren
O'Hearn sheets, You've got now a real left field.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
We had dog crap hitting thing catch.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
Now we've got a better hitting catcher who's supposed to
be a better defender than the guys that we had
already who were praised for their defense.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
The rotation is improved, King is coming back.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
No one left Sears is here, The bullpen is improved,
the bench is improved, the team is better, and at
the end of the day, like James wood, Leo Devrees
might be out there playing in All Star Games, frustrating
and tantalizing us from AFAR, doing so for a losing

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organization going nowhere, potentially in Vegas, potentially in Sacramento, potentially
in Salt Lake City. All right, we're going to keep
playing for the title every year, so sacrifices.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Will be made along the way.

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
And he was one that was made salace has not
been made yet, but it's gone next year for another
thing where we're going to win it all and we've
got guys we can control for three and four more years.
That's something aj Preller said today. Guys, he said, you know,
I'm not keen. He literally, we're keen. He said, I'm
not keen on moving prospects for a rental. But when

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you get players with years of control and you can
plan out this year and years going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
That's what he wants to do. That's what he did.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Let's bring up so flow and welcome Austin up to
the stage.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
What's happening, gentlemen.

Speaker 19 (01:33:47):
It's always lovely to have a deadline day, especially if
you're a Padres fan. Pumped about how today went. Love
to be a fly in the wall or whatever room
to sitting in trying to figure out what his lineup
looks like tomorrow or whenever the guys show up. A
couple of things I wanted to touch on, one just

(01:34:08):
being an La hater. The Vegas odds have in La
minus thirteen hundred win the NL West with the Padres
plus eight hundred. If I could short a Vegas odd
on La BA minst. I mean that is one of
the most outrageous things I've ever heard. After today's events.
They didn't do shit. They're not going to have shit.

(01:34:29):
It's ours to lose as far as I'm concerned. But
that aside. One thing that's really stuck in the all
season from one of your.

Speaker 12 (01:34:38):
Posts preseason episodes.

Speaker 19 (01:34:40):
Was that journey to one hundred and eighty home runs,
right and yeah, today is ninety two home runs, about
halfway there, and we're two thirds of the way through
the season. Right, So, adding Loreano, adding O'Hearn, I'm out,
you know, in the DC area, so I get up
and see some Orioles games. I've got family in Baltimore.

(01:35:03):
I love those two guys. I couldn't be happy to
have them. And my one might not to you know,
piss on the preight or anything here. But my one question,
I'll positive you guys, is a two parter O'Hearn. Traditionally
in Baltimore, it's not usually play against lefties.

Speaker 18 (01:35:19):
Right.

Speaker 19 (01:35:20):
He's kind of a I wouldn't go so far to
say a platoon guy, but when he sits, he sits
for his lefties, and Loreno has kind of reverse splits
he's really good against righty's. He's still an eight hundred
ops hitter against lefties, but you know he mashes righties.
We now have, like Sheets Merrill O'Hearn, do we still

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have a concern with someone just running out three lefties
against us in the playoffs? And GC O'Hearn as an
everyday guy for someone who sits for his lefties. So
that's it for me, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Thanks, good questions, good call.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
Yeah, I think here here's what I think. I think
the Padres will with this current roster configuration, always have
at least a little bit of an issue against lefties because,
as you said a rise Merrill, like these these players aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
Leaving the lineup worth right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
So that's three against a lefty that's usually like one
or two more left handed bets. Then you see a
team start against a left handed starter, we start at three,
and then the question will be is o'hearne going to
be a fourth or if not, whom I mean, you know,
Sheets was doing okay against lefties with no power for

(01:36:39):
a little while. I think it's probably rotating in a
glacis that's it?

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
And yeah, as.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
Far as I go, Glacier should never face a righty again.

Speaker 5 (01:36:54):
Yeah, correct, correct, exclusively, Amore. I wish they would do
like what the Tigers do. Like the Detroit Tigers have
a lot of talented guys like Harry Carpenter, who's a
darn good hitter. You won't see him play against a
left handed hitter. He's a young guy who's foundational to
the success of that team, but he doesn't start against lefties.

(01:37:16):
They play the splits every single game like without ruthlessly.
They do it, and that's what I would like to
see be done because the fact of the matter is
Exius is on this team to hit right handed pitching.
I assume me to hit left handed pitching, and he
hasn't quite got owen this season in that regard. I

(01:37:37):
don't think his split is all that impressive right now,
but it's in him and that's where he's going to
need to get his advats. It's like, are you sitting
a Rise or are you sitting kronin Worth? And I
think krona Worth as the more appearing, more appealing split
right now with the better defense. So I think the
Padres got to get more ruthless, and that means more

(01:37:59):
bench time for Luisa Rice.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Interesting. I mean, I don't I don't know that that'll happen,
but I.

Speaker 6 (01:38:09):
Don't think it will.

Speaker 7 (01:38:10):
But yeah, I mean absolutely having a glaciers instead of
a rise hitting against lefties makes a lot of sense
to me.

Speaker 6 (01:38:17):
And then you just pinch him and then you just
bring him in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Comes. Yeah, no, it's true. I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
Another poor floor mon Padre has been watching people race
past him like he's like stuck on the on ramp
on an LA Freeway.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
It's just.

Speaker 6 (01:38:39):
I'm on an LA Freeway, guys, I go vides.

Speaker 20 (01:38:44):
I'm driving on the four of five, trying to pick
up some moving box as I'm you know, trying to
get as far away from Chris Freed as possible.

Speaker 12 (01:38:51):
Hey, neighbor, uh.

Speaker 20 (01:38:54):
I know that we can overanalyze and look into the
stagcast and the statistics and everything, but I just want
to be in the present and just focus on the vibe.
And I want to do a quick five check in
terms of what what do you guys think the clubhouse
feeling is like, especially with the context of how we

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were playing a week ago, the fact that we're winning,
you know, we're coming off a five game winning streak
against you know, with the sweep of a playoff team,
and then uh kind of attacking on the question of like,
did you think that Machado knew about all these upcoming
moves and that's why he did the social media Instagram

(01:39:35):
blackout or was that a him throwing the gun and
throwing the club down and challenging the ownership and AJ
do something about, you know, whether or not they're going
to support this major league team in a deep playoff run.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
Great question, Goo PADJ And I'm going to answer this.
I'm going to answer kind of both the same way.
And it's entirely speculative on my part. So I just
want to make sure that I say that like I'm
not telling you, I'm reporting something that I heard someone
tell me, etcetera, etcetera. If Manny Machada was gonna be
upset about anything leading up to the trade deadline, it's

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sure as hell wasn't trading Leo Devrees.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
I will tell you that right.

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
Now, or any other prospect in the Padres organization. If
he was upset about anything, it was the idea of
trading a Dylan Cees or a Jake Croninworth or a
Robert Suarez off or Luisa rise off of this team.
So I'll go from that to the vibes question. I

(01:40:44):
guarantee you the vibes are all time high inside the
Padres locker room right now because they didn't give up
anybody in their mind. They're going to see a couple
of people leave the room over the next day and
they will feel bad for a solid thirty minutes. When
Tyler Wade leaves, they will feel bad, you know, the

(01:41:06):
pitching staff will feel bad for the afternoon when Maldonado
packs up and leaves, Like you know, there will be
no feeling at all when Trenton Brooks packs up and leaves.
But when the big league players show up and replace
those guys, you know, same thing. Kolk Berger will be like,
oh man, too bad, sucks good luck. When the big

(01:41:30):
league players, the veteran big league players are walking through
the door replacing those guys, it is one thousand percent.
Look what happened. This franchise supports like no other. Can
you believe, guys that we play for this team, this
team that when we're in it, they they play every
card they can, they do every single thing they can,
and they do it again the next year and they

(01:41:51):
do it again the next year. That's the vibe in
the Padres clubhouse right now is I love my GM,
I love my owner, I love everything. Look what just happened.
Let's go, Let's win a championship. That's the vibe.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
I do think the manny social media activity was an
indication of where their mindset was a few days ago.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
I think you're absolutely right, Craig.

Speaker 5 (01:42:17):
Like no other team in baseball saw this much investment
into their current roster, and I don't think anybody got better.
And the fact that you know you said it right
at the top, Cease is here, Prona's here. When the
trade rumors started with Jake Cronenworth, that was as upset

(01:42:38):
of as I've been all season. But he's a padre.
Luisa Rise as a padre, none of the salary guys
went Robertsurez would have been the easiest to get rid
of in this absolutely insane market for high leverage relievers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
And he's on the team, so.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
You're ready to ride, all right, the man who's been
waiting the longest.

Speaker 12 (01:43:02):
First, guys, I'm just happy to be a part of
the community.

Speaker 15 (01:43:07):
I appreciate everything you guys do, and and uh you know,
my After everything today, the best part was definitely seeing
Rafie and Chris take their shirts off and beat them off.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
This whole time, I brother tell me about I'm down
here in Florida.

Speaker 15 (01:43:26):
It's ninety five at almost ten o'clock, but I want
to talk about for me, and the first thing I
wanted to say is I agree with you, Craig. The
first thing I thought of when I saw kiss Havant
page was like, oh, that's Austin Nola.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
But then I looked at his.

Speaker 15 (01:43:43):
Ninetieth percentile pop time, and unlike Nola, he does not
have a noodle arm. He also had led the league
in caught stealing percentage last year with forty four point
seven percent. So I think we're definitely getting a stud
behind the plate. And I sincerely believe that Diaz is
not going to be with this team. And I have
an argument why we should keep Maldy, but that'll be

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for another time. But going to Mason Miller, I mean,
you know, it's such a shame to lose Leo, of course,
but this guy was destined to be a Padre. He
wears number nineteen. He's going to have to change that
before coming down South. But you know, in the Preler
press conference he said that in twenty twenty one he

(01:44:27):
wanted to sign him, but they just didn't have the
slot money to offer the draft pick to him. So
proballer has wanted him for a long time. And that
goes to my final point going back to it, Gavin
sheets Slug said earlier about you know that the highest
prospect to be traded orright Leo Dallas Breeze is the

(01:44:47):
highest prospect to be traded since twenty seventeen. I found
this tweet today that I thought was so interesting of
the highest rinked prospects ever to be traded during the
trade deadline, you had Joan Mancotta, who was number one
prospect at the time. I don't know, did you guys
see this at all?

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
This tweet? No going Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:45:09):
Joan mccatta went from Boston to Chicago in the Chris
Sale deal in twenty yeah, twenty sixteen. Lucas Giolito went
from Washington to Chicago in also twenty sixteen in the
Adam Eating deal. Will Myers went for went from Kansas
City to Tampa Tampa Bay in twenty twelve. Uh for

(01:45:31):
Wade Davis and James fucking shields. So Leo Dallas to
Debrees will join that list of the highest Franks prospects.
But of those teams that traded away their their top prospects,
what did all.

Speaker 12 (01:45:45):
Of them have in common?

Speaker 15 (01:45:47):
Asking you that question?

Speaker 6 (01:45:50):
Y'all eventually won the World Series?

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
That's right?

Speaker 15 (01:45:53):
So I just thought that was really interesting and obviously, yeah,
I just.

Speaker 7 (01:45:58):
Want to I just want to add in an other
for you, which was, how about the Labor Torres trade
which sent him from Chicago to New York and saw
the return of Eroaldis Chapman to come to Chicago and
win the World Series that year? I think I might
be the most comparable, that might be the most comparable
to what happened today with Leale Dallas, Devrez and Mason

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Miller should the Padres go on to glory?

Speaker 6 (01:46:24):
Right, So there you go.

Speaker 15 (01:46:27):
Well, I don't want to jinx anything, but I just
thought that was a fun tweet, good discussion maker, and
so that's all I have.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Thanks for having me up, guys, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
So much for mont Padre. It is official. The Padres
have designated for assignment Trenton Brooks and Martin Maldonado, and
they have optioned will Wagner to Triple A l Passo.
So Maldy is gone. The Martin Maldonado era is over.
It's over. Wow, and it will be fast Freddy and

(01:47:02):
Elite Elias going forward as the padres catching tandem and
hopefully Maldonado. You know, it's the friends you make along
the way, and we'll remember forever.

Speaker 5 (01:47:15):
Hey, I hope, I hope he takes a minor league assignment.
I hope he goes to a passo, you know, just
to coach up all the young guys down there, coach
up Campy him.

Speaker 4 (01:47:25):
All the bull Durham series. Hey, you're retired. No, no,
we want you to go to Triple A. We've got
one last signment for you before you go.

Speaker 6 (01:47:37):
Hey, I'll pass those really nice this time of year.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
It's beautiful, don't worry.

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
Ninety nine stearing hot winds with thirty mile an hour
winds ninety nine miles an hour. Okay, let's keep it rolling.
We're going to go to the top of the hour.
Here's healing call another big patron jumping on up high
healing coln.

Speaker 11 (01:47:58):
Hey, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:48:00):
Yeah, well on mobile right now. But I just wanted
to say one small thing that this is done by
strading for the bats even if we didn't get Freddy
for me, and which I think is still an upgrade
because he doesn't have a negative r WRC plus with
runners and scoring position this year. I think that the
biggest impact that this does is imagine this scenario. Vander

(01:48:22):
Bogarts is on third, Jake k Cronworth is on second,
and we have a ketcher coming up to pinch hit
or to hit with two outs. We no longer have
to have the worst sentence I've ever uttered, which is
Bryce Johnson has been called back for LEAs Diaz to
go pinch hit from our team. All than we have

(01:48:45):
upgraded the high leverage techer hitting position with pinch hitters
on the bench who can actually start for a team
a bad team, but they can start for a team somewhere.
And I think that one of the biggest wins. The
other biggest win is that Dylan Cees can go one

(01:49:05):
time through the lineup and if you just bridge one
inning of Matt Suey or David Morgan or something, you
can have five straight innings of closing quality relief pitching
in the playoffs. If you need to pull the trap
door right once you start. We now have Robert Suarez

(01:49:26):
coming in in the eighth if you need it. We
have Jeremiah Strada coming in in the fourth. In the faith,
we're like Dylan Sees. The version of Dylan Cees we're
scared about doesn't exist anymore because we don't have to
see him if we don't want to. And I think
those are the two big ones. This is my initial.

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
Thoughts so well that I love it healing cout, but
I mean that does require the manager to not ride
Cease through the danger point and allow him to give
up the big hit.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
So far, he's shown the ability to give up the
big hit.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
But did you can you imagine Mason Miller as an
opener for doing Sea against the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (01:50:05):
I would be unbelievable. That would be absolutely unbelievable. All right,
five minutes left. Here's Camminity snickers. Hi, Caminity Snickers.

Speaker 19 (01:50:16):
Hey guys.

Speaker 21 (01:50:18):
Uh, I will say uh. When I woke up, first
thing I saw was the trade involving leadallas degrees, and
I was not happy. I do keep an open mind,
and I wasn't glued to the TV all day, but
I watched enough coverage that I've I've kind of be
talked out of it as including by you guys, as

(01:50:39):
far as you know the sensibility of it. All I
do understand today is more important than tomorrow, which is
more important than twenty twenty eight or whenever he might
be contributing to the padres and the trades. Did you
hit it right on the head, Craig. The trades got
better as the day went on.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
Uh.

Speaker 21 (01:50:58):
The one takeaway from today was, Wow, is years of
control really valuable? All of a sudden. It feels like
aj overpays at the trade deadline year after year, and
I was getting the same feeling today. And honestly, of
all the trades that I really dislike the most, it's
the for Mean trade because I was excited about Kolic

(01:51:19):
and Bergert, and if you look at it simply, you're
basically replacing them with Spears and Cortes, if you just
want to simplify it, I'd rather have those guys going forward.
But that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
It's not.

Speaker 21 (01:51:34):
You know, it's definitely a small upgrade and maybe even
a big upgrade from Maldonado to for Mean. The roster
looks incredible you know, and then and then of course
Deo hern and Loreano trade is kind of what made
the whole day make a little bit of sense. You
were there was a part of the day where you're like,
are they really just gonna just gonna try to pitch
their way to this and just try to win every

(01:51:55):
game one to nothing or two to one. So it
was nice to see them get to pop. And when
you laid out that lineup, Greg, it sounded pretty good
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
Uh.

Speaker 21 (01:52:04):
I don't know what you do. I've we've been thinking
about this for weeks, you know, moving bogarts up and
this and that. There's just no way you can put
individually the guys where they hit in a spot, you know,
getting boguarts out of the middle of the lineup and
up up, either up or at the bottom, getting a
rise to fourth or fifth. There's no way you can

(01:52:24):
really do that without having righty, righty, righty, left you
left you lefty, and just these these right handed, left
handed lanes, which they're not gonna do. Uh So, I
don't really know what the correct lineup is, but the
way it works today, especially with the three batter minimum,
you just don't want to stack those righty's and lefties
and and bring some and and give those lanes to
other teams for their bullpens. So I don't know what

(01:52:46):
the correct lineup is, but I do know this.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
It looks a hell of a.

Speaker 21 (01:52:50):
Lot better today than it did did yesterday. The debris
thing makes me sad. I was having to teaset the
to tease dream with him. And you know, as far
as the dynamicism of his abilities, they don't come along
every day, but hey, who knows who's coming along next
with aj Preller. I think the bottom line is I

(01:53:12):
don't know how sustainable is, but the bottom line is
he's just going to go for it every year, every year,
every year, every year. And I don't know if it's
sustainable or not. I worry about that because I'm still
going to be a Padres fan in twenty six and
twenty seven and hopefully twenty eight and many years before.
But right now, it's awesome this team, and I am
looking at the division just like you guys. This team

(01:53:33):
it looks a whole a hell of a lot better.
The National League looks a hell of a lot more winnable,
and you know, so it is an exciting day but
I am skeptical in the long term. But again today
is more important than tomorrow, so we enjoy it now
and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
That's right, Kevin Hendie snickers.

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
And here's the thing about twenty eight and twenty nine
and thirty many Machado is going to be there, Jackson
Merrill is going to be there, Sander Bogart's is going
to be there, Fernando Tattists Junior is going to be there.
That's half the lineup right there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:54:06):
They they're gonna keep trying every year. A. J. Peler
said something in his press compass today. He said, talking
about Peter Sidler and talking about the dreams of this
the intentionality of this franchise, he said, team of the decade,
Team of the decade. So the idea is fight for

(01:54:27):
the championship every year, and you might not make it.
Mason Miller will be there in twenty twenty nine, thank you, Shydown,
like they made move Freddy for me will be there
in twenty twenty nine, like they have continued to build
through the decade. They did not sell Dvrees to get
I don't know who would have been the ultimate rental.

(01:54:47):
You know, that you could have gotten at the deadline,
you know, but they didn't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:52):
But he even has a year left, you know. There
wasn't anybody there that was worth the defrise as a rental.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
Yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
I understand the fear. The fear is the same as
when James Woods was traded. I'm like, well, damn, that's
when I don't want to let go. Devrees is traded,
You go, Damn, that's when I don't want to let go.
Mason Miller appears in three All Star Games. I'm sorry,
it's probably pretty even trade.

Speaker 6 (01:55:20):
But sure, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Which you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:55:23):
Let's let's wrap thing up. Things up with the Pigs
lover coming on up to the stage. What's happening, my man?

Speaker 12 (01:55:29):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 20 (01:55:30):
Guys.

Speaker 22 (01:55:30):
It's been a long time coming out here from uh
Pennsylvania and enemy territory with the Phillies, a lot of
Phillies fans that I have there, friends, especially the people
I work with with the Iron Pigs. I'm so stoked
about what we did today. At first, when I first trade,
you know, I was like, oh God, Davrees. But you know,
of course, working in my League Baseball annoying. Mason Miller

(01:55:53):
started as a starter at first, and you know, then
converted to a closer. I mean, I think, honestly they
can convert him.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
And I know a lot of people.

Speaker 22 (01:56:02):
Compared him to Garrett Cole back in the day when
he was first kind of starting in the miners up
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
You know, I have my faith in and Reuben of
course with that.

Speaker 22 (01:56:16):
It's it's funny a lot of my Phillies fans are
a lot more scared of us now, even though I
think out of all the teams that are out there,
I still think the Phillies scared me the most, even
more than the Dodgers. But they only added Baitter and
of course you know they did get their closer, of ut,
yeah it did. So I'm really excited of the lineup now,

(01:56:38):
the depth. They can't wait for am I'm calling it
hopefully an NLCS Phillies padre. So I actually see some
games out here turn the since the minor league season
will be done by then. But I just love everything.
I haven't talked to you guys in a bit, but
I appreciate what you guys all do, and I can't
wait for the finish this season up here and make

(01:57:00):
a big playoff run.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
So love it. Thank you so much for Colin.

Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
Thank you for being a longtime supporter of Padre's Hot
Tub and being in there through all of the different.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
Minor league stadiums that you have managed to professionally travel
your way through. It's great to have you here, and
that's going to put the ice on I think our
highest attendant, longest show in the last couple of years.

Speaker 4 (01:57:30):
Let's fucking go, San Diego. Let's ride. It's time. It
is time.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
Yeah, absolutely, this one's going.

Speaker 4 (01:57:36):
Out to the free feed dealing Kawi'd be idiots, not too,
we'd be absolutely Idiot's not to patreon dot com slash
padres hot Tub. If you're on the free feet and
you haven't signed up yet, please do because this is.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
An exciting day. It was a wild day.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
I felt when I woke up this morning like I
wanted to see it all at the end, and I
knew something was going to be given up that was
a setting, just a guarantee, something was going to be
given up that was upsetting, and something was going to
be gathered that was exciting, and early on it didn't
seem like it made sense, and at the end now

(01:58:13):
I feel like it all is of a piece and
it all makes sense, and this team is incredibly well
positioned for this year and next year.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
We ride. Let's go try and win the n O West.

Speaker 6 (01:58:28):
OH Pods.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
All right there, it is anything else, No, go get
the division.

Speaker 6 (01:58:34):
Fuck, let's go. It seems so good now.

Speaker 5 (01:58:40):
The Dodgers who are absolutely fumbling and are playing not
good baseball. They're dropping fly balls, they're old, they're beaten.
Let's go get.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
Them, go get them, Let's go get him, Let's go
get him. Let's fucking go of San Diego. Whoo

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