April 21, 2025 • 10 mins
My thoughts on the death of Pope Francis this morning, as well as what comes next at the Vatican.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Pag's Perspective with your host Ryan Pagano. Well,
here on PEG's Perspective, we have had quite the lighthearted
streak in terms of podcast content as of late. Of course,
my most recent two episodes revolving around the NBA playoff
predictions as well as my Stanley Cup playoff predictions. But
that is going to be broken up today as we
(00:21):
found out some pretty tragic news here on Monday morning,
and that is the death of Pope Francis this morning
at the age of eighty eight years old. We got
the statement this morning from Cardinal Kevin Farrell camer Lengo
of the Holy Roman Church announcing his death with these
words quote, dearest brothers and sisters, with deep sorrow, I
(00:46):
must announce the death of our Holy Father Francis at
seven thirty five this morning, the Bishop of Rome. Francis
returned to the House of the Father. His entire life
was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of
his church. He taught us to live the values of
the Gospel with fidelity, courage, and universal love, especially in
favor of the poorest and most marginalized. With immense gratitude
(01:09):
for his example as a true disciple of the Lord Jesus.
We commend the soul of Pope Francis to the infinite
merciful love of the One and True in God. So
definitely some tragic news coming from the Vatican today, and
all the eyes of the world really on the Vatican,
(01:29):
not just today, but for the next couple of weeks,
as they will be in a period of morning for
I believe the next nine days, and then comes the
very vigorous process that is electing a new Pope, which
I believe could take anywhere from two to three weeks
to elect. So all eyes on the Roman Catholic Church
(01:54):
once more in the Vatican, especially in light of what
has really happened to the true these past few years,
with all the allegations of sexual assault and all that
that has just really plagued the Roman Catholic Church brand
for years and has really turned a lot of people
against them. And having not just the first Latin American pope,
(02:17):
but also someone who has been very pro LGBTQ, especially
when it comes to Catholic religion and all that, but
also somebody who was willing to just help out anybody
regardless of whether they were a Catholic, a Christian, or
(02:38):
even if they weren't and went against the values of Jesus,
he was still willing to help them out either way.
And I think that's really the big quality that sets
Pope Francis apart from most, if not all, of his predecessors,
is that he was willing to take that one extra step,
and he really recognized twenty first century society that things
(03:02):
were going to change, that we're going to be a
lot of things, a lot of values that went against
those of Jesus back when he died on the cross
for our sins. But he was more than willing to
put that past him and do actions that were best
(03:23):
for twenty first century society as we know it today.
So now the question arises of who the heck is
going to be the interim for right now? What's the
voting process going to be like? Now that is kept secret,
but that is going to take place again with the
eyes of the world on the Vatican and the Catholic Church.
(03:44):
So Kevin Farrell, Cardinal Kevin Farrell, excuse me, who I
mentioned at the top of this pod, will be the interim.
He will be holding the position of camer Lengo or
chamberlain in English. So the morning period of course take
place today and throughout the next nine days. Cardinals will
(04:08):
now need to decide exactly when his funeral can take place,
but much of that timeline is going to be predetermined
as today triggered the start of that nine day morning period.
The Pope must be buried between the fourth and the
sixth day after death, and in these coming days, mourners,
(04:32):
I can imagine we'll be lining up for miles to
see Pope Francis's body, which we'll be lying in state
at Saint Peter's Basilica for people to come and pay
their respects. That's going to be taking place as soon
as Wednesday. Now. Just for context, mourners were lining up
for miles when Pope John Paul the Second died back
in two thousand and five, so it's very possible that
(04:54):
we will be seeing the exact same thing again now.
Whether or not there are going to be any the
official events taking place in tandem and Buenos aires, who knows.
It is pretty likely that there are gonna be some
unofficial events going on there, as that's where Francis lived
before he became the Bishop of Rome and then following
(05:17):
this morning period, you're gonna have the large funeral mass
taking place at Saint Peter's, a historically huge event with
dignitaries expected to come from around the world. John Paul
the Second's funeral and five was attended by President W.
Bush at the time, as well as two predecessors, Bill
(05:39):
Clinton and George H. W. Bush. So, then when a
pope dies, the Dean of Sacred College Cardinals will call
for a meeting of all cardinals eligible to vote, which
are those under the age of eighty who need to
travel to the Vatican to do so. There are one
hundred and thirty six eligible cardinals. But it is worth
(06:02):
noting that back in nineteen ninety six John Paul the
Second he set the maximum number of cardinals allowed to
participate at one twenty. Now this is expected to begin
earlier than fifteen days nor later than twenty days following
the death. But if all the cardinal electors can get
in Rome quickly, could very well get underway sooner and
(06:27):
inside that Systeine Chapel, paper ballots will be passed out
to the cardinals who will write the name of their
chosen candidates, and then when they're done, each cardinal in
order of senior ality will walk to the altar to
ceremoniously place their folded ballot into a chalice. The votes
are counted, the result is read to the cardinals, and
if a cardinal receives two thirds of the vote, he
(06:49):
will become the new pope. And now as many as
four votes a day, two in the morning, two in
the afternoon can be held on the second, third, and
fourth days of the conclave. Fifth days set aside for
prayer and discussion, and that's when voting can continue for
an additional seven rounds, and then after that you have
another break. The pattern resumes all that all in the meantime,
(07:11):
news cameras will be having their lenses on a chimney
on a Vatican rooftop for days, as that's where they
will see the first confirmation of a new pope with
the smoke billowing from the chimney about thirty to sixty
minutes of white smoke billowing from the chimney, meaning that
(07:36):
the vacancy period is over, a new pope has been chosen,
and then we are going to get a period of
new leadership in the Roman Catholic Church from here on out.
One other thing speaking of leadership, that I do want
to point out as well, is that one of the
last people to see Pope Francis just yesterday actually was
(07:59):
Vice President JD. Vance. He saw the Pope seemed to
be doing pretty well, even with his failing health and
pneumonia battles. Vance of course found out about the death
this morning and had nothing but good things to say
about the Pope, which I can heavily respect, being that
(08:22):
he's a lifelong Catholic. I myself am a lifelong Catholic too,
so it's one of those things where I could just
put the political differences aside and just respect another man
as a Catholic for having just nothing but kind words
to say about Pope Francis. But that, of course isn't
(08:42):
going to stop the Democrats from mocking the hell out
of JD. Vance because the Democrats have nothing better to
do in this day and age. I mean, their popularity
is at an all time low. I've been on the
Joe Piscopos Show on a ninety seventy of the Answer
telling people this like they're popular. He is at an
all time low, and I don't know what is to
(09:03):
be done to fix it. There really isn't a lot
in this day and age. All they can really do
is just try to revisit their strategies for twenty twenty
eight and go from there. But it's just evident of
anything that the way they've been doing things hasn't worked.
And their mockery of the Roman Catholic Church following a
(09:25):
tragic event like the death of Pope Francis is it's
exactly that they're just continuing to mock themselves. And I'm
sure that's exactly what Pope Francis did not want to happen,
is to have his name be mocked all for some
(09:46):
moral democratic victories or something with the allegations over the
past few years. But that's really all I have to
say about Pope Francis for now. May he rest in peace,
knowing all the good that he has done for the world.
And if you have time tonight, just say a quick prayer,
say a quick prayer for the Roman Catholic Church, for
(10:10):
all of Catholicism Christianity, because we can only hope and
pray that new leadership is to come soon in that
this voting period can be over sooner rather than later.
And that is all I got to say for right
now here on PEG's perspective,
Welcome to Pag's Perspective with your host Ryan Pagano. Well,
here on PEG's Perspective, we have had quite the lighthearted
streak in terms of podcast content as of late. Of course,
my most recent two episodes revolving around the NBA playoff
predictions as well as my Stanley Cup playoff predictions. But
that is going to be broken up today as we
(00:21):
found out some pretty tragic news here on Monday morning,
and that is the death of Pope Francis this morning
at the age of eighty eight years old. We got
the statement this morning from Cardinal Kevin Farrell camer Lengo
of the Holy Roman Church announcing his death with these
words quote, dearest brothers and sisters, with deep sorrow, I
(00:46):
must announce the death of our Holy Father Francis at
seven thirty five this morning, the Bishop of Rome. Francis
returned to the House of the Father. His entire life
was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of
his church. He taught us to live the values of
the Gospel with fidelity, courage, and universal love, especially in
favor of the poorest and most marginalized. With immense gratitude
(01:09):
for his example as a true disciple of the Lord Jesus.
We commend the soul of Pope Francis to the infinite
merciful love of the One and True in God. So
definitely some tragic news coming from the Vatican today, and
all the eyes of the world really on the Vatican,
(01:29):
not just today, but for the next couple of weeks,
as they will be in a period of morning for
I believe the next nine days, and then comes the
very vigorous process that is electing a new Pope, which
I believe could take anywhere from two to three weeks
to elect. So all eyes on the Roman Catholic Church
(01:54):
once more in the Vatican, especially in light of what
has really happened to the true these past few years,
with all the allegations of sexual assault and all that
that has just really plagued the Roman Catholic Church brand
for years and has really turned a lot of people
against them. And having not just the first Latin American pope,
(02:17):
but also someone who has been very pro LGBTQ, especially
when it comes to Catholic religion and all that, but
also somebody who was willing to just help out anybody
regardless of whether they were a Catholic, a Christian, or
(02:38):
even if they weren't and went against the values of Jesus,
he was still willing to help them out either way.
And I think that's really the big quality that sets
Pope Francis apart from most, if not all, of his predecessors,
is that he was willing to take that one extra step,
and he really recognized twenty first century society that things
(03:02):
were going to change, that we're going to be a
lot of things, a lot of values that went against
those of Jesus back when he died on the cross
for our sins. But he was more than willing to
put that past him and do actions that were best
(03:23):
for twenty first century society as we know it today.
So now the question arises of who the heck is
going to be the interim for right now? What's the
voting process going to be like? Now that is kept secret,
but that is going to take place again with the
eyes of the world on the Vatican and the Catholic Church.
(03:44):
So Kevin Farrell, Cardinal Kevin Farrell, excuse me, who I
mentioned at the top of this pod, will be the interim.
He will be holding the position of camer Lengo or
chamberlain in English. So the morning period of course take
place today and throughout the next nine days. Cardinals will
(04:08):
now need to decide exactly when his funeral can take place,
but much of that timeline is going to be predetermined
as today triggered the start of that nine day morning period.
The Pope must be buried between the fourth and the
sixth day after death, and in these coming days, mourners,
(04:32):
I can imagine we'll be lining up for miles to
see Pope Francis's body, which we'll be lying in state
at Saint Peter's Basilica for people to come and pay
their respects. That's going to be taking place as soon
as Wednesday. Now. Just for context, mourners were lining up
for miles when Pope John Paul the Second died back
in two thousand and five, so it's very possible that
(04:54):
we will be seeing the exact same thing again now.
Whether or not there are going to be any the
official events taking place in tandem and Buenos aires, who knows.
It is pretty likely that there are gonna be some
unofficial events going on there, as that's where Francis lived
before he became the Bishop of Rome and then following
(05:17):
this morning period, you're gonna have the large funeral mass
taking place at Saint Peter's, a historically huge event with
dignitaries expected to come from around the world. John Paul
the Second's funeral and five was attended by President W.
Bush at the time, as well as two predecessors, Bill
(05:39):
Clinton and George H. W. Bush. So, then when a
pope dies, the Dean of Sacred College Cardinals will call
for a meeting of all cardinals eligible to vote, which
are those under the age of eighty who need to
travel to the Vatican to do so. There are one
hundred and thirty six eligible cardinals. But it is worth
(06:02):
noting that back in nineteen ninety six John Paul the
Second he set the maximum number of cardinals allowed to
participate at one twenty. Now this is expected to begin
earlier than fifteen days nor later than twenty days following
the death. But if all the cardinal electors can get
in Rome quickly, could very well get underway sooner and
(06:27):
inside that Systeine Chapel, paper ballots will be passed out
to the cardinals who will write the name of their
chosen candidates, and then when they're done, each cardinal in
order of senior ality will walk to the altar to
ceremoniously place their folded ballot into a chalice. The votes
are counted, the result is read to the cardinals, and
if a cardinal receives two thirds of the vote, he
(06:49):
will become the new pope. And now as many as
four votes a day, two in the morning, two in
the afternoon can be held on the second, third, and
fourth days of the conclave. Fifth days set aside for
prayer and discussion, and that's when voting can continue for
an additional seven rounds, and then after that you have
another break. The pattern resumes all that all in the meantime,
(07:11):
news cameras will be having their lenses on a chimney
on a Vatican rooftop for days, as that's where they
will see the first confirmation of a new pope with
the smoke billowing from the chimney about thirty to sixty
minutes of white smoke billowing from the chimney, meaning that
(07:36):
the vacancy period is over, a new pope has been chosen,
and then we are going to get a period of
new leadership in the Roman Catholic Church from here on out.
One other thing speaking of leadership, that I do want
to point out as well, is that one of the
last people to see Pope Francis just yesterday actually was
(07:59):
Vice President JD. Vance. He saw the Pope seemed to
be doing pretty well, even with his failing health and
pneumonia battles. Vance of course found out about the death
this morning and had nothing but good things to say
about the Pope, which I can heavily respect, being that
(08:22):
he's a lifelong Catholic. I myself am a lifelong Catholic too,
so it's one of those things where I could just
put the political differences aside and just respect another man
as a Catholic for having just nothing but kind words
to say about Pope Francis. But that, of course isn't
(08:42):
going to stop the Democrats from mocking the hell out
of JD. Vance because the Democrats have nothing better to
do in this day and age. I mean, their popularity
is at an all time low. I've been on the
Joe Piscopos Show on a ninety seventy of the Answer
telling people this like they're popular. He is at an
all time low, and I don't know what is to
(09:03):
be done to fix it. There really isn't a lot
in this day and age. All they can really do
is just try to revisit their strategies for twenty twenty
eight and go from there. But it's just evident of
anything that the way they've been doing things hasn't worked.
And their mockery of the Roman Catholic Church following a
(09:25):
tragic event like the death of Pope Francis is it's
exactly that they're just continuing to mock themselves. And I'm
sure that's exactly what Pope Francis did not want to happen,
is to have his name be mocked all for some
(09:46):
moral democratic victories or something with the allegations over the
past few years. But that's really all I have to
say about Pope Francis for now. May he rest in peace,
knowing all the good that he has done for the world.
And if you have time tonight, just say a quick prayer,
say a quick prayer for the Roman Catholic Church, for
(10:10):
all of Catholicism Christianity, because we can only hope and
pray that new leadership is to come soon in that
this voting period can be over sooner rather than later.
And that is all I got to say for right
now here on PEG's perspective,
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