The walls are closing in on Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. After being stripped of his royal titles and style of “Prince,” the disgraced Duke now faces renewed calls for a full police investigation into his ties to Jeffrey Epstein — and a fresh move from King Charles to remove his last remaining honour: his Vice Admiral rank in the Royal Navy.
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Former prosecutor Nazir Afzal says “this matter hasn’t been investigated, never mind taken any further,” while MPs accuse the system of “two-tier justice.” Across the Atlantic, U.S. lawmakers are warning Andrew to cooperate with Congress — or be compelled to testify.
Inside the palace, courtiers call it the moment that revealed “the King’s steel.” And with public opinion on the monarchy falling to record lows, royal commentators say this scandal could redefine the institution itself.
Plus: William and Kate quietly move homes, Meghan Markle posts — and deletes — a suspiciously timed photo, and even the Queen’s corgis are caught up in the chaos.
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Former prosecutor Nazir Afzal says “this matter hasn’t been investigated, never mind taken any further,” while MPs accuse the system of “two-tier justice.” Across the Atlantic, U.S. lawmakers are warning Andrew to cooperate with Congress — or be compelled to testify.
Inside the palace, courtiers call it the moment that revealed “the King’s steel.” And with public opinion on the monarchy falling to record lows, royal commentators say this scandal could redefine the institution itself.
Plus: William and Kate quietly move homes, Meghan Markle posts — and deletes — a suspiciously timed photo, and even the Queen’s corgis are caught up in the chaos.
Hear our new show "Crown and Controversy: Prince Andrew" here.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Caloroga Shark Media. Hello and welcome to a special bonus
episode on Palace Intrigue as we continue to cover the
Andrew fallout. Before I begin today's show, just wanted to
let you know we have a new series out from
Calaroga Shark Media. It's called Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew,
(00:25):
and the season will cover Andrew's extraordinary fall from Pallace
favorite to pariah, through the Epstein scandal, the BBC interview,
and the final reckoning that saw King Charles strip his
brother of every title. There's a new episode every Sunday.
The first episode is available today. Please check it out.
(00:46):
Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew available wherever you get your podcasts,
and there's also a link in the show notes. The
Metropolitan Police are facing renewed calls to reopen their investigation
to sexual abuse allegations against Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, following the
King's decision to strip him of his remaining royal titles.
(01:08):
Former Senior Prosecutor Nazir Afzal and several members of Parliament
have urged Scotland Yard to revisit the case involving Virginia Jeoffrey,
who accused the King's brother of sexual abuse allegations Andrew
has always strenuously denied, mister Azal told BBC Radio four's
Today program. At that time a statement hadn't been taken
(01:31):
from Virginia Jeffrey. And then in twenty twenty one a
further review took place based on findings from the civil
case and also from the Gallain Maxwell prosecution in the US,
and again the matter wasn't investigated. So this matter hasn't
been investigated, never mind taken any further. He added, the
public confidence has been shaken, saying people do feel that
(01:53):
there is some two tier justice here that if you
are powerful, you don't get the same level of attention
as you would if he were, say homeless. The Independent
Office for Police Conduct could intervene if the Metropolitan Police
declined to act, mister avsl added. A spokesman for the
Metropolitan Police said it had not previously launched a full
(02:16):
criminal investigation because any investigation into human trafficking would be
largely focused on activities and relationships outside the UK, adding
that the decision not to proceed was reviewed into twenty
twenty one. Meanwhile, in the United States, members of Congress
have warned Andrew that he faces mounting pressure to cooperate
(02:38):
with their investigation into Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. Congressman Suhar's Subremannium,
who serves on the House Oversight Committee, said I would
like for him to come to our committee and tell
us everything he knows about Jeffrey Epstein and the crimes
that were committed. I think this would be a great
way for Andrew to clear his name. It would be
(02:59):
a great way for us to continue our pursuit of
justice for the victims. He added a warning, even if
you don't come forward with information, we are going to
find all this information that's out there possible. We are
not going to let this go. The government is moving
to remove Andrew Mountbatten Windsor's final honorary military title, following
(03:20):
a request from King Charles. Defense Secretary John Healy confirmed
the King had indicated that's what he wishes, adding this
is a move that's right. It's a move the King
has indicated we should take, and we're working on that
at the moment. Andrew, who was stripped of his title
as princes on Thursday, has held on to his rankers
Vice Admiral in the Royal Navy since stepping back from
(03:42):
other military roles in twenty twenty two, once celebrated as
a decorated war hero, the King's younger brother served for
twenty two years in the Royal Navy, including as a
helicopter pilot during the Falcons War and later commanded HMS
Cottersmoor Police. Insiders have described King Charles's decision to strip
Andrew mount Batten Windsor of all royal titles as a
(04:03):
defining moment of firmness in his reign and one that
revealed the King's steel. According to The Times, the King
personally telephoned his younger brother to deliver the news, a
conversation described as both private and painful. The decision, sources said,
came only after careful consideration of how Andrew would cope
without the trappings of royal life. For a while, there
(04:26):
were significant welfare issues. One royal source told the paper,
his entire reason for being is around status. We were
asking ourselves can he cope. In the end, we reached
a tipping point and was made to see sense. Another
insider added, in the past three years of the King's reign,
we have seen his humanity, warmth and compassion now was
(04:46):
seen his steel. The removal of a prince's title is
almost without president in modern royal history. The last instance
occurred in nineteen nineteen, when Prince Ernest Augustus of Hanover
lost his British titles for siding with Germany during the
First World War. Christopher Wilson in The Telegraph suggests this
scandal will change the Royal family forever. Wilson writes, the
(05:09):
firm is used to weathering storms. In the past, they
have lived by the rule of not apologizing or explaining
where they have made adjustments. They have tended to be
gradual murmurs rather than earthquakes. In the past few days,
they have been open debate about abolishing the monarchy on primetime,
radio and television of an intensity not seen since the
death of Diana in nineteen ninety seven. Polling indicates that
(05:32):
public opinion is at a tipping point. Since nineteen eighty three,
the British Social Attitude Survey has asked the same question,
is the monarchy important to the UK? The latest report,
released in September, found that just fifty one percent thought
it was. The slimmest of majorities down from eighty six
percent when the question was first asked four decades ago.
(05:53):
From these numbers, it is clear that there is a
race against time to save the institution. Younger people in
particular must be persuaded that it's worth keeping. The Palace's
action this week show that King Charles and Prince William
understand what is at stake. What matters is not the
courts but the court of public opinion. This scandal is
different because it has set a precedent, and that changes everything,
(06:14):
says Royal author Robert Jobson. Andrew Nunbatten Windsor has made
gross mistakes, but the consequences have come without any wrongdoing
being proven in the court of law. Yet he has
been stripped of his title, honors and even kicked out
of his home. Still most will welcome a line finally
being drawn under this saga. This marks a very real shift.
There were times when Elizabeth I might have cast disgraced
(06:37):
relatives aside with the public's blessing, but she never did.
There were no defenestrations on her watch. Her belief, driven
by the events of the nineteen thirty six abdication, was
that gradual change was better than anything too abrupt. Her
rationale always was to protect not only her reputation but
that of the institution of monarchy during her custodianship, If
(06:58):
in private she criticized members of her family, she did
not encourage outsiders to follow suit. It was sometimes reported
that Andrew was the late Queen's favorite, which might have
contributed to her protecting him. Whether that's true or not,
we don't know, says Joe Little, managing editor a monarch magazine.
But certainly she was not able to deal with the confrontation.
She would compartmentalize these problems that made Andrew sort of invincible.
(07:22):
More palis in just a moment. In other developing news
on this Sunday, the Prince and Princess of Wales have
left Adelaide cottage in Windsor's Home Park and moved into
a larger residence in Windsor Great Park. The Grade two
listed mansion, which has eight bedrooms, is now the family's
primary home. The relocation took place over Prince George, Princess
(07:46):
Charlotte and Prince Louis half turn break, with the family
aiming to be settled in by onfire night. The Telegraph
reports that they are now comfortably adjusting to life in
their new surroundings. However, the transition has temporarily placed the
family closer to Andrew mount Batten Windsor, who remains at
Royal Lodge. On Thursday evening, shortly after the news broke, Meghan,
(08:06):
the Duchess of Sussex, reportedly shared a smiling photograph on
Instagram before swiftly deleting the post. The image, which was
said to show Megan Mikel beaming broadly, was captured by
social media users before being removed. While no caption or
explanation accompanied the post, the timing drew immediate speculation online,
with commentators noting its coincidence with dramatic developments at Windsor.
(08:31):
Some are worried about what will happen to the Queen's corgies.
The former Prince and his ex wife Sarah Ferguson share
their ninety eight acre Windsor home with seven dogs, including
the late Queen Elizabeth's beloved corgies Mick and Sandy. The
pair were gifted to the Queen by Andrew before her
death and came into his care. In twenty twenty two.
Buckingham Palace confirmed that the corgies will remain with the family,
(08:53):
though did not specify whether they will stay with Andrew,
Sarah or their daughters, Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie. Royal
Inside has told Hello the corgies will likely influence where
Sarah and Andrew choose to live after they leave their
thirty room Royal Lodge. Clothes Rachel Avery said the pair
inherited Queen Elizabeth Seconds corgies when she passed away, so
(09:13):
the dogs will influence the decision too. They will need
to be provided with adequate outdoor space, after all, they
were used to ninety eight acres at Royal Lodge. The
Son is reporting the King has given Andrew until the
end of January to move out. Dog behaviorist Sue Catland
told her he Low that any move could be stressful
for them, advising bring some things to their new home
(09:34):
that will remind them of their own environment. Avoid washing
your pets, betting ahead of the move, or buying a
new one as their scent will help them settle in faster.
And there you have it to email us addresses the
Palacentric at gmail dot com. Please follows Spotify, Apple or
the app of your choice, and don't forget We have
our new series, Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew. Just search
(09:56):
for that. Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew begins to Day
with episode one available wherever you get your podcasts. I'm
Mark Francis my thanks to John McDermot. This is balance
intrigue in good times.
Caloroga Shark Media. Hello and welcome to a special bonus
episode on Palace Intrigue as we continue to cover the
Andrew fallout. Before I begin today's show, just wanted to
let you know we have a new series out from
Calaroga Shark Media. It's called Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew,
(00:25):
and the season will cover Andrew's extraordinary fall from Pallace
favorite to pariah, through the Epstein scandal, the BBC interview,
and the final reckoning that saw King Charles strip his
brother of every title. There's a new episode every Sunday.
The first episode is available today. Please check it out.
(00:46):
Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew available wherever you get your podcasts,
and there's also a link in the show notes. The
Metropolitan Police are facing renewed calls to reopen their investigation
to sexual abuse allegations against Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, following the
King's decision to strip him of his remaining royal titles.
(01:08):
Former Senior Prosecutor Nazir Afzal and several members of Parliament
have urged Scotland Yard to revisit the case involving Virginia Jeoffrey,
who accused the King's brother of sexual abuse allegations Andrew
has always strenuously denied, mister Azal told BBC Radio four's
Today program. At that time a statement hadn't been taken
(01:31):
from Virginia Jeffrey. And then in twenty twenty one a
further review took place based on findings from the civil
case and also from the Gallain Maxwell prosecution in the US,
and again the matter wasn't investigated. So this matter hasn't
been investigated, never mind taken any further. He added, the
public confidence has been shaken, saying people do feel that
(01:53):
there is some two tier justice here that if you
are powerful, you don't get the same level of attention
as you would if he were, say homeless. The Independent
Office for Police Conduct could intervene if the Metropolitan Police
declined to act, mister avsl added. A spokesman for the
Metropolitan Police said it had not previously launched a full
(02:16):
criminal investigation because any investigation into human trafficking would be
largely focused on activities and relationships outside the UK, adding
that the decision not to proceed was reviewed into twenty
twenty one. Meanwhile, in the United States, members of Congress
have warned Andrew that he faces mounting pressure to cooperate
(02:38):
with their investigation into Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. Congressman Suhar's Subremannium,
who serves on the House Oversight Committee, said I would
like for him to come to our committee and tell
us everything he knows about Jeffrey Epstein and the crimes
that were committed. I think this would be a great
way for Andrew to clear his name. It would be
(02:59):
a great way for us to continue our pursuit of
justice for the victims. He added a warning, even if
you don't come forward with information, we are going to
find all this information that's out there possible. We are
not going to let this go. The government is moving
to remove Andrew Mountbatten Windsor's final honorary military title, following
(03:20):
a request from King Charles. Defense Secretary John Healy confirmed
the King had indicated that's what he wishes, adding this
is a move that's right. It's a move the King
has indicated we should take, and we're working on that
at the moment. Andrew, who was stripped of his title
as princes on Thursday, has held on to his rankers
Vice Admiral in the Royal Navy since stepping back from
(03:42):
other military roles in twenty twenty two, once celebrated as
a decorated war hero, the King's younger brother served for
twenty two years in the Royal Navy, including as a
helicopter pilot during the Falcons War and later commanded HMS
Cottersmoor Police. Insiders have described King Charles's decision to strip
Andrew mount Batten Windsor of all royal titles as a
(04:03):
defining moment of firmness in his reign and one that
revealed the King's steel. According to The Times, the King
personally telephoned his younger brother to deliver the news, a
conversation described as both private and painful. The decision, sources said,
came only after careful consideration of how Andrew would cope
without the trappings of royal life. For a while, there
(04:26):
were significant welfare issues. One royal source told the paper,
his entire reason for being is around status. We were
asking ourselves can he cope. In the end, we reached
a tipping point and was made to see sense. Another
insider added, in the past three years of the King's reign,
we have seen his humanity, warmth and compassion now was
(04:46):
seen his steel. The removal of a prince's title is
almost without president in modern royal history. The last instance
occurred in nineteen nineteen, when Prince Ernest Augustus of Hanover
lost his British titles for siding with Germany during the
First World War. Christopher Wilson in The Telegraph suggests this
scandal will change the Royal family forever. Wilson writes, the
(05:09):
firm is used to weathering storms. In the past, they
have lived by the rule of not apologizing or explaining
where they have made adjustments. They have tended to be
gradual murmurs rather than earthquakes. In the past few days,
they have been open debate about abolishing the monarchy on primetime,
radio and television of an intensity not seen since the
death of Diana in nineteen ninety seven. Polling indicates that
(05:32):
public opinion is at a tipping point. Since nineteen eighty three,
the British Social Attitude Survey has asked the same question,
is the monarchy important to the UK? The latest report,
released in September, found that just fifty one percent thought
it was. The slimmest of majorities down from eighty six
percent when the question was first asked four decades ago.
(05:53):
From these numbers, it is clear that there is a
race against time to save the institution. Younger people in
particular must be persuaded that it's worth keeping. The Palace's
action this week show that King Charles and Prince William
understand what is at stake. What matters is not the
courts but the court of public opinion. This scandal is
different because it has set a precedent, and that changes everything,
(06:14):
says Royal author Robert Jobson. Andrew Nunbatten Windsor has made
gross mistakes, but the consequences have come without any wrongdoing
being proven in the court of law. Yet he has
been stripped of his title, honors and even kicked out
of his home. Still most will welcome a line finally
being drawn under this saga. This marks a very real shift.
There were times when Elizabeth I might have cast disgraced
(06:37):
relatives aside with the public's blessing, but she never did.
There were no defenestrations on her watch. Her belief, driven
by the events of the nineteen thirty six abdication, was
that gradual change was better than anything too abrupt. Her
rationale always was to protect not only her reputation but
that of the institution of monarchy during her custodianship, If
(06:58):
in private she criticized members of her family, she did
not encourage outsiders to follow suit. It was sometimes reported
that Andrew was the late Queen's favorite, which might have
contributed to her protecting him. Whether that's true or not,
we don't know, says Joe Little, managing editor a monarch magazine.
But certainly she was not able to deal with the confrontation.
She would compartmentalize these problems that made Andrew sort of invincible.
(07:22):
More palis in just a moment. In other developing news
on this Sunday, the Prince and Princess of Wales have
left Adelaide cottage in Windsor's Home Park and moved into
a larger residence in Windsor Great Park. The Grade two
listed mansion, which has eight bedrooms, is now the family's
primary home. The relocation took place over Prince George, Princess
(07:46):
Charlotte and Prince Louis half turn break, with the family
aiming to be settled in by onfire night. The Telegraph
reports that they are now comfortably adjusting to life in
their new surroundings. However, the transition has temporarily placed the
family closer to Andrew mount Batten Windsor, who remains at
Royal Lodge. On Thursday evening, shortly after the news broke, Meghan,
(08:06):
the Duchess of Sussex, reportedly shared a smiling photograph on
Instagram before swiftly deleting the post. The image, which was
said to show Megan Mikel beaming broadly, was captured by
social media users before being removed. While no caption or
explanation accompanied the post, the timing drew immediate speculation online,
with commentators noting its coincidence with dramatic developments at Windsor.
(08:31):
Some are worried about what will happen to the Queen's corgies.
The former Prince and his ex wife Sarah Ferguson share
their ninety eight acre Windsor home with seven dogs, including
the late Queen Elizabeth's beloved corgies Mick and Sandy. The
pair were gifted to the Queen by Andrew before her
death and came into his care. In twenty twenty two.
Buckingham Palace confirmed that the corgies will remain with the family,
(08:53):
though did not specify whether they will stay with Andrew,
Sarah or their daughters, Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie. Royal
Inside has told Hello the corgies will likely influence where
Sarah and Andrew choose to live after they leave their
thirty room Royal Lodge. Clothes Rachel Avery said the pair
inherited Queen Elizabeth Seconds corgies when she passed away, so
(09:13):
the dogs will influence the decision too. They will need
to be provided with adequate outdoor space, after all, they
were used to ninety eight acres at Royal Lodge. The
Son is reporting the King has given Andrew until the
end of January to move out. Dog behaviorist Sue Catland
told her he Low that any move could be stressful
for them, advising bring some things to their new home
(09:34):
that will remind them of their own environment. Avoid washing
your pets, betting ahead of the move, or buying a
new one as their scent will help them settle in faster.
And there you have it to email us addresses the
Palacentric at gmail dot com. Please follows Spotify, Apple or
the app of your choice, and don't forget We have
our new series, Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew. Just search
(09:56):
for that. Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew begins to Day
with episode one available wherever you get your podcasts. I'm
Mark Francis my thanks to John McDermot. This is balance
intrigue in good times.
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