September 29, 2025 • 9 mins
Did Camilla tell Kate to move during the state visit? We unpack the clip, Ingrid Seward on Kate’s star turn, and Deep Crown on why Catherine steadies the whole Firm—alongside Richard Eden’s warning about a Harry-and-Meghan “return.” Then: ITV’s Jane Andrews drama sparks a statement from Natalie Dormer, reports that Fergie’s TV hopes have stalled, and her Belgravia sale.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Calorougus Shark Media.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, and welcome to Palace Injury again your host Mark Francis.
Did the Queen tell Kate to move out of the way?
Queen Camilla and Princess Catherine are said to be at
odds following a tense moment during President Trump's recent state
visit when cameras appear to show Camilla motioning for Kate
to move while the princess was speaking with First Lady
Milania Trump. A source tells Examined that the incident has
(00:37):
stirred friction within the royal household. Camilla has been extremely
kind and supportive towards Kate throughout her recent struggles, but
she's territorial by nature as well as prickly. It annoys
her to no end. There's this narrative that the Whaleses
can do her wrong and that Kate can sworn around
whenever she feels like it, waving her magic wand and
taking a self appointed bow as the most popular member
(01:00):
of the monarchy. According to the source, Camilla has been
reminding Kate that she's calling the shots for now, adding
that it's not for Kate or William to be throwing
their weight around or barking orders. From Kate's perspective, Camilla's
public display was unnecessary. The way she behaved in front
of everyone, pushing Kate away and snapping was uncalled for,
and it raised William's hackles too, the source explained, noting
(01:21):
that while William's relationship with his stepmother was greatly improved
over the years, her apparent disrespect toward his wife is
testing those bonds once more. Kate was fully aware of
the central role she played during Trump's state visit. According
to royal biographer Ingrid Seward told people, she lightened the
whole evening. She lit up the table with the megawatts smile.
(01:44):
There was a lot of pressure on her because all
eyes were on her. She never looked as good as
she did the other night. She looked magnificent, She looked golden,
and it's definitely the best I've ever seen her look
at a state banquet. At the banquet, Kate set beside.
At the banquet, Kate sat beside her the President and
was photographed laughing during the exchange. She obviously amused him.
(02:05):
She is just a doian of perfect manners. He must
have made her laugh, Suard said, adding that the Princess
is definitely showing traits of being a remarkable future queen.
The following day, Kate joined the First Lady of Frogmore
Gardens to meet children involved in these Scouts Squirrels program.
Reflecting both women's shared interest in youth causes, Suward observed
their rapport, remarking, she chatted to Kate quite a lot.
(02:26):
Everybody wants to talk to Kate. For Seward, there is
little doubt about Kate's influence within the monarchy. She is
the weapon, not a secret one, the royal author said
in his Sunday substack Royal Inside a Deep Crown said Catherine,
Princess of Wales is the glue in the factory and
the figure who steadies the monarchy. He wrote that without her,
(02:47):
the public would be left with what he called a
monarchy high on tradition but low on charm, pointing to
Charles's dutiful but not beloved Harry in conflict, Andrew disgraced
and Edward amiable but peripheral Deep crowns.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
To them.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
In such a world, some might even whisper about skipping
ahead to Queen Sophie and King Edward. But concluded that
Catherine has spared the institution from such talk. In his words,
Katherine doesn't just hold the family together, she holds the
monarchy itself. And you can subscribe to Deep Groun's newsletter
for free at deep Crown dot co dot uk, and
an audio version is also available for paid subscribers to
(03:23):
Palace Intrigue. That five dollars subscription also gets you this
podcast without commercial interruption. You can listen to Palace Intrigue
on Apple Podcasts and click on the banner that says
uninterrupted listening up. There even comes with a thirty day
free trial, and that brings up a point from a
listener mel K sixty four, who says, update, I'm confused.
(03:44):
I received a notification that Keller Roger Shark stopped charging
the four ninety nine fee for ad free shows and
early access. Now I see the monthly fee is back.
We'd like to know what's going on. A fun short
Royal update from Mark Francis with just the right amount
of snark. Your friend from across the pond, Mel Kay,
September fourteenth. You are right, mel Kay, and thank you
(04:05):
for bringing this up. You are still able to get
this show commercial free, along with hundreds of others from
gala Oger, Shark Media, plus advance episodes of All Our
Crown and Controversy series and other perks on the Apple
Player and you just go up top there and look
for Listen Uninterrupted, and it's four ninety nine a month.
(04:25):
But it's only available on Apple Players. It's not available
anymore on Spotify. So that was the reason that we
sunseted that service. But you can still get us AD
free on Apple. It comes with a thirty day free
trial and after that it's four ninety nine. So we
thank you for your support and go listen to us
AD free on Apple. We love you. Thank you. In
(04:47):
the Daily Mail, Richard Eden writes there's a sinister establishment
plot to undermine Prince William and Kate and bring back
Harry and Meghan. I refuse to be part of it.
Eden explains during his visit he told friends that he
wanted his children to be educated in Britain. Reported last week,
Harry hopes that by the time his children are of
an age to attend school here, he and Megant will
be spending more time in Britain, possibly living in a
(05:08):
royal residence if relations with the King continue to improve.
The King is, however, in danger of forcing the heir
to the throne into a very uncomfortable corner. If he
allows this plot to succeed, Harry and Maggnant will be
back in Britain undermining Prince William and Catherine without ever
having apologized for their appalling behavior. The King needs to
put his foot down and make clear to his younger
(05:28):
son that there will be no more appeasement unless he
apologizes to William and Catherine. Only then could a genuine
reconciliation be possible more powers in just a moment. Sarah
Ferguson is bracing for fresh turmoil, this time not connected
to her long running association with Jeffrey Epstein. A new
ATV drama is set to shine a spotlight on her
(05:50):
former aide, Jane Andrews, who served as the Duchess's dresser
for nine years before being convicted of murdering her boyfriend.
In two thousand and one, Andrews, who worked for Sarah
from eighty eight till ninety seven, was found guilty of
killing her partner Tom Kressman, after attacking him with a
cricket bat and stabbing him at their London home. The
forthcoming series The Lady will chart Andrew's journey from modest
(06:13):
beginnings to the heights of royal circles and her dramatic
fall into notoriety. Actress Natalie Dormer will not be promoting
the series and has donated her entire salary for the
show to children's charities. She explains, when I agreed to
take the role in The Lady, I knew portraying the
scripts Sarah Ferguson will require nuance. People are layered, Their
journeys are full of highs and lows, and as an
(06:34):
act of my job is to lean into those elements
and bring them to life with honesty and empathy. Since
completing the project, new information has come to light that
it makes it impossible for me to reconcile my values
with Sarah Ferguson's behavior, which I believe is inexcusable. For
that reason, I will not be taking part in the
promotion of the project. Sarah has seen her own Hollywood
(06:54):
ambitions collapse in the wake of her latest scandal. She
had been pursuing a major television adaptation of her novel
Her Heart for a Compass and a Most Intriguing Lady,
with storyboards and pictures reportedly sent to Netflix, but according
to industry insiders, those plans are now dead and buried.
Another source noted that Ferguson had hoped to pitch her
stories as a Royal tinged alternative to Bridgeton. Fergie has
(07:18):
sold a Belgravia townhouse for about five point three million dollars,
three years after buying it as an investment property. The Duchess,
who continues to live at Royal Lodge, purchased the London
home in twenty twenty two and rented it to a
private tenant located close to Kensington Palace and St James Park.
The property is tied to her daughters, Princess Beatrice and
Princess Eugenie. We must sign off any change to its status.
(07:41):
A spokesperson for Sarah explained she wasn't looking to sell it.
She was asked by the tenant to buy it and
it seemed like a good time to sell. It's an
investment property for her girls and so the moneys will
be reinvested. Accordingly. Pallace insiders have speculated that funds from
the townhouse sale could help keep the Duchess and Andrew
at Royal Lodge. King Charles has made clear he no
(08:01):
longer intends to subsidize their lifestyle at the sprawling estate,
having suggested they downsize to Frogmore Cottage. Andrew has resisted,
insisting here's the means to remain in Windsor, though beyond
his modest naval pension, the source of his wealth remains unclear.
And there you have it. If you'd like to email us,
our addresses the Palace Intrigue at gmail dot com, and
(08:23):
please send us a note. If you're having any audio
issues or you've heard some bad audio on shows. We
want to track down an issue that someone commented on,
whether there is an issue or not, so I just
send us a note. Even if won't say hi, I
promise I will reply to every email that comes my way.
That's the Palace Intrigue at gmail dot com. Please follow
(08:43):
us on Spotify, Apple, the Apple of your choice, and
find us on Facebook. Just search for Palace Intrigue on
Facebook pages of Facebook groups. I'm mind Francis my thanks
to John McDermott. This is Palace Intrigue and good times
Calorougus Shark Media.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, and welcome to Palace Injury again your host Mark Francis.
Did the Queen tell Kate to move out of the way?
Queen Camilla and Princess Catherine are said to be at
odds following a tense moment during President Trump's recent state
visit when cameras appear to show Camilla motioning for Kate
to move while the princess was speaking with First Lady
Milania Trump. A source tells Examined that the incident has
(00:37):
stirred friction within the royal household. Camilla has been extremely
kind and supportive towards Kate throughout her recent struggles, but
she's territorial by nature as well as prickly. It annoys
her to no end. There's this narrative that the Whaleses
can do her wrong and that Kate can sworn around
whenever she feels like it, waving her magic wand and
taking a self appointed bow as the most popular member
(01:00):
of the monarchy. According to the source, Camilla has been
reminding Kate that she's calling the shots for now, adding
that it's not for Kate or William to be throwing
their weight around or barking orders. From Kate's perspective, Camilla's
public display was unnecessary. The way she behaved in front
of everyone, pushing Kate away and snapping was uncalled for,
and it raised William's hackles too, the source explained, noting
(01:21):
that while William's relationship with his stepmother was greatly improved
over the years, her apparent disrespect toward his wife is
testing those bonds once more. Kate was fully aware of
the central role she played during Trump's state visit. According
to royal biographer Ingrid Seward told people, she lightened the
whole evening. She lit up the table with the megawatts smile.
(01:44):
There was a lot of pressure on her because all
eyes were on her. She never looked as good as
she did the other night. She looked magnificent, She looked golden,
and it's definitely the best I've ever seen her look
at a state banquet. At the banquet, Kate set beside.
At the banquet, Kate sat beside her the President and
was photographed laughing during the exchange. She obviously amused him.
(02:05):
She is just a doian of perfect manners. He must
have made her laugh, Suard said, adding that the Princess
is definitely showing traits of being a remarkable future queen.
The following day, Kate joined the First Lady of Frogmore
Gardens to meet children involved in these Scouts Squirrels program.
Reflecting both women's shared interest in youth causes, Suward observed
their rapport, remarking, she chatted to Kate quite a lot.
(02:26):
Everybody wants to talk to Kate. For Seward, there is
little doubt about Kate's influence within the monarchy. She is
the weapon, not a secret one, the royal author said
in his Sunday substack Royal Inside a Deep Crown said Catherine,
Princess of Wales is the glue in the factory and
the figure who steadies the monarchy. He wrote that without her,
(02:47):
the public would be left with what he called a
monarchy high on tradition but low on charm, pointing to
Charles's dutiful but not beloved Harry in conflict, Andrew disgraced
and Edward amiable but peripheral Deep crowns.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
To them.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
In such a world, some might even whisper about skipping
ahead to Queen Sophie and King Edward. But concluded that
Catherine has spared the institution from such talk. In his words,
Katherine doesn't just hold the family together, she holds the
monarchy itself. And you can subscribe to Deep Groun's newsletter
for free at deep Crown dot co dot uk, and
an audio version is also available for paid subscribers to
(03:23):
Palace Intrigue. That five dollars subscription also gets you this
podcast without commercial interruption. You can listen to Palace Intrigue
on Apple Podcasts and click on the banner that says
uninterrupted listening up. There even comes with a thirty day
free trial, and that brings up a point from a
listener mel K sixty four, who says, update, I'm confused.
(03:44):
I received a notification that Keller Roger Shark stopped charging
the four ninety nine fee for ad free shows and
early access. Now I see the monthly fee is back.
We'd like to know what's going on. A fun short
Royal update from Mark Francis with just the right amount
of snark. Your friend from across the pond, Mel Kay,
September fourteenth. You are right, mel Kay, and thank you
(04:05):
for bringing this up. You are still able to get
this show commercial free, along with hundreds of others from
gala Oger, Shark Media, plus advance episodes of All Our
Crown and Controversy series and other perks on the Apple
Player and you just go up top there and look
for Listen Uninterrupted, and it's four ninety nine a month.
(04:25):
But it's only available on Apple Players. It's not available
anymore on Spotify. So that was the reason that we
sunseted that service. But you can still get us AD
free on Apple. It comes with a thirty day free
trial and after that it's four ninety nine. So we
thank you for your support and go listen to us
AD free on Apple. We love you. Thank you. In
(04:47):
the Daily Mail, Richard Eden writes there's a sinister establishment
plot to undermine Prince William and Kate and bring back
Harry and Meghan. I refuse to be part of it.
Eden explains during his visit he told friends that he
wanted his children to be educated in Britain. Reported last week,
Harry hopes that by the time his children are of
an age to attend school here, he and Megant will
be spending more time in Britain, possibly living in a
(05:08):
royal residence if relations with the King continue to improve.
The King is, however, in danger of forcing the heir
to the throne into a very uncomfortable corner. If he
allows this plot to succeed, Harry and Maggnant will be
back in Britain undermining Prince William and Catherine without ever
having apologized for their appalling behavior. The King needs to
put his foot down and make clear to his younger
(05:28):
son that there will be no more appeasement unless he
apologizes to William and Catherine. Only then could a genuine
reconciliation be possible more powers in just a moment. Sarah
Ferguson is bracing for fresh turmoil, this time not connected
to her long running association with Jeffrey Epstein. A new
ATV drama is set to shine a spotlight on her
(05:50):
former aide, Jane Andrews, who served as the Duchess's dresser
for nine years before being convicted of murdering her boyfriend.
In two thousand and one, Andrews, who worked for Sarah
from eighty eight till ninety seven, was found guilty of
killing her partner Tom Kressman, after attacking him with a
cricket bat and stabbing him at their London home. The
forthcoming series The Lady will chart Andrew's journey from modest
(06:13):
beginnings to the heights of royal circles and her dramatic
fall into notoriety. Actress Natalie Dormer will not be promoting
the series and has donated her entire salary for the
show to children's charities. She explains, when I agreed to
take the role in The Lady, I knew portraying the
scripts Sarah Ferguson will require nuance. People are layered, Their
journeys are full of highs and lows, and as an
(06:34):
act of my job is to lean into those elements
and bring them to life with honesty and empathy. Since
completing the project, new information has come to light that
it makes it impossible for me to reconcile my values
with Sarah Ferguson's behavior, which I believe is inexcusable. For
that reason, I will not be taking part in the
promotion of the project. Sarah has seen her own Hollywood
(06:54):
ambitions collapse in the wake of her latest scandal. She
had been pursuing a major television adaptation of her novel
Her Heart for a Compass and a Most Intriguing Lady,
with storyboards and pictures reportedly sent to Netflix, but according
to industry insiders, those plans are now dead and buried.
Another source noted that Ferguson had hoped to pitch her
stories as a Royal tinged alternative to Bridgeton. Fergie has
(07:18):
sold a Belgravia townhouse for about five point three million dollars,
three years after buying it as an investment property. The Duchess,
who continues to live at Royal Lodge, purchased the London
home in twenty twenty two and rented it to a
private tenant located close to Kensington Palace and St James Park.
The property is tied to her daughters, Princess Beatrice and
Princess Eugenie. We must sign off any change to its status.
(07:41):
A spokesperson for Sarah explained she wasn't looking to sell it.
She was asked by the tenant to buy it and
it seemed like a good time to sell. It's an
investment property for her girls and so the moneys will
be reinvested. Accordingly. Pallace insiders have speculated that funds from
the townhouse sale could help keep the Duchess and Andrew
at Royal Lodge. King Charles has made clear he no
(08:01):
longer intends to subsidize their lifestyle at the sprawling estate,
having suggested they downsize to Frogmore Cottage. Andrew has resisted,
insisting here's the means to remain in Windsor, though beyond
his modest naval pension, the source of his wealth remains unclear.
And there you have it. If you'd like to email us,
our addresses the Palace Intrigue at gmail dot com, and
(08:23):
please send us a note. If you're having any audio
issues or you've heard some bad audio on shows. We
want to track down an issue that someone commented on,
whether there is an issue or not, so I just
send us a note. Even if won't say hi, I
promise I will reply to every email that comes my way.
That's the Palace Intrigue at gmail dot com. Please follow
(08:43):
us on Spotify, Apple, the Apple of your choice, and
find us on Facebook. Just search for Palace Intrigue on
Facebook pages of Facebook groups. I'm mind Francis my thanks
to John McDermott. This is Palace Intrigue and good times
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