It may be the end of Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson’s public presence within the royal family, as King Charles reportedly has made the decision to keep both the Duke and Duchess of York at “arm’s length” following the emergence of emails suggesting that Sarah Ferguson maintained contact with Epstein long after publicly disavowing him in 2011. While Andrew’s own connection to the disgraced financier has long dogged the monarchy, this new detail has reignited scrutiny.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Calorougus Shark Media.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello and welcome to Palace Intrige game your host, Mark Francis.
It may be the end of Prince Andrew and Sarah
Ferguson's public presence within the royal family, as King Charles
reportedly has made the decision to keep both the Duke
and Duchess of York at arm's length, following the emergence
of emails suggesting that Sarah Ferguson maintained contact with Epstein
(00:38):
long after publicly disavowing him in twenty eleven. While Andrew's
own connection to the discreased financier has long dogged the monarchy,
this new detail has reignited scrutiny. A royal source told
The Sunday Times that the pair are not expected to
attend the traditional Christmas festivities at sandra Ham this year,
(00:59):
nor are they likely to be welcome at future family events.
You can't sack someone from being your brother, but this year,
if the Duke and Duchess were both to be as
honorable as last year, it would be very much for
the best and the family would not be disappointed. A
family friend adds, the King is not of the mind
to banish someone worshiping a church or attending family occasions
(01:21):
like a funeral, but he would hope that they would
find a more discreet way of attending these events. In
the Duke of York's case, he seems to relish the
prospect of not being low key about it. Prince William
has made no secret of his frustrations, and earlier report
from The Daily Beast quoted a sources saying William always said,
just cut Andrew off completely. Charles was so desperate to
(01:43):
be seen as embodying the spirit of Christian forgiveness that
he let Andrew back in. Now, with public patients wearing thin,
it appears King Charles's finally drawing firm boundaries, though for
someone within the family it may be a case of
too little, too late any male's. Richard Kay suggests a
risk in pushing Andrew too far away. He explains, if
(02:06):
he is pushed too far, how might Andrew react? Would
he follow his nephew's lead and write a memoir which
could potentially be even more devastating for the royals. In
Prince Harry's book, can Charles bring himself to sever all
links with the brother who for twenty two years was
his immediate heir. Can he be firm without being cruel?
With more possibly to come out about Andrew and Epstein,
(02:28):
his legacy as a monarch may depend on it. In
the Royalist, Tom Sykes suggests we are seeing a shift
in the balance of power from father to son. Sykes riots,
this is not about who gets how many roast potatoes.
It is about the structure, the anatomy, the sinews of
the monarchy. Who holds power, who makes decisions, Who defines
the institution's survival strategy. The answer is now clear. William,
(02:52):
make no mistake. This is an utter humiliation for Charles
who expended significant political capital against the advice of his
son and his key aid, Sir Clive Alderton, to invite
Andrew to join the family at Christmas twenty twenty two,
and then incredibly invited Sarah Ferguson, who tried to sell
access to Andrew in a videotaped sting for five hundred
pounds and twenty ten. Don't believe the spin and the
(03:14):
Sunday Times that this is the King's decision and William
supports it. This is just clever journalistic diplomacy by the
ever skillful Royer Nicker It's clear to everyone with a
political antenor that this is William's hard won victory, and
events have forced the aged, weak father to comply with
his son and heir. It is Charles who has been dragged,
against his own attempts to the contrary, into accepting William's
(03:37):
harder line. Of course, the King and the Prince of
Wales are not only divided on Andrew, but also on style, tone,
and fundamental questions of how the monarchy should conduct itself
at Harry to the mix and the differences multiply, the
UK Press rarely mentions the looming fact shaping all of this.
Charles is gravely ill, not expected to live much more
than a couple of years, and is supposed, according to press,
(04:00):
to be seeding control to William. However, he has resisted
handing over power in the same way his own mother did.
Elizabeth allowed childs to co run the monarchy during her
last decade. It's intriguing that the King climbed down after
spending time with William and Scotland this week. The Palace
tried to present last week's father son meeting in Scotland
as a summit of unity. The truth as my readers
(04:23):
know is different. Williams stayed at Balmoral, eight miles from Burkehall,
where Charles and Camilla are based. He spent much of
his time shooting grouse with friends. This was no cozy
weekend of father son bonding. It was a negotiation and
William emerged with his father's head more palace in just
a moment. If you're a fan of true crime and
(04:45):
justice stories, please check out our sister podcast, Celebrity Trials.
It's a daily show diving into all the current trials
going on around the country, and then sometimes we dive
into some of the more classic cases, like this week
is the thirtieth anniversary of the O. J. Simpson Trial verdict,
(05:06):
and the show is covering eight months of the trial
in eight days, eight Days of OJ. Check it out
Celebrity Trials wherever you get your podcasts. Megan Michael's role
in a high profile Los Angeles gala has come into
question after her name was left off the official program
for the rescheduled event. The Duchess of Sussex had originally
been due to attend the Night of Wonder gala at
(05:29):
the Natural History Museums of Los Angeles County in June,
where she was set to be honored for championing women
and underserved communities. The event, designed as an enchanted garden
at night, complete with immersive exhibits and live music, was
postponed due to protests in the area, and now has
been rescheduled for October fifteenth. When announcing the original event,
(05:49):
Museum president Laurie Bettison Vargas said, we are proud to
honor Megan, Duchess of Sussex and Native Angelino, whose work
to advance community well being and expand opportunity, especially for
unders served communities, aligns with our equity focused approach to
developing science literacy for the next generation. However, with tickets
for the autumn gala prized at fifteen hundred dollars, Meghan's
(06:11):
name no longer appears on the official schedule, and reports
suggest her attendance remains uncertain. The Duchess's representatives and the
museum have yet to comment. Meghan Michael has given fans
another glimpse into her private life, this time sharing a
video from a relaxed evening with friends. The duchess posted
the short clip to Instagram showing the game of Marjong
(06:31):
in progress at her Montecito home. Seated around the table
with three friends, Meghan revealed her Marjong tales laid out
alongside a glass of wine and another drink. The lighthearted
moment was set to Elizabeth Mitchell's Little Eliza Jane. Meghan
has previously spoken about her fondness for game nights in
her Netflix series With Love Megan. She explained, the game
(06:51):
itself is really so fun, but what was so great
was the idea of learning something new with your friends
together and then recognizing that Marjong becomes the background of
the expansion of friendship. Sir Gary Aldman has officially been knighted.
The sixty seven year old actor received the honor at
Windsor Castle on Tuesday in a ceremony presided over by
the Prince of Wales. Known for his remarkable range, Oldman
(07:14):
has played everyone from Said Vicious to Winston Churchill, a
role that earned him the Academy Award for Best Actor
in twenty eighteen for the Darkest Hour. He was also
widely recognized as Serious Black in the Harry Potter series,
commissioner Jim Gordon in Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, and
most recently as Jackson lamb in Apple TV's Slow Horses.
(07:35):
Also honored at Windsor was actress Samantha Morton. England Football,
the Rachel Daily, part of the Lioness's triumphant Euro twenty
twenty two squad, was named an MBE for services to football.
There was a half felt moment between siblings and the
Princess Anne unveiled a new portrait of her brother at
the Scottish Parliament in Holyrood. The photograph, filled with sentimental detail,
(07:59):
now hangs alongside had a portrait of their late mother,
Queen Elizabeth, captured by a photographer Millie Pilkington in the
sunken garden at Balmoral Castle last autumn. The image shows
the King wearing his own Charles, the third Tartan killed
and holding a handcrafted stick gifted by the May Highland Games.
The relaxed setting and familiar retire offer a nod to
the royal family's deep rooted tires to Scotland. As Princess
(08:22):
Anne removed the covering cloth, she smiled warmly and placed
her hand over the frame, a quiet, affectionate gesture that
did not go unnoticed. Also not going unnoticed was a subtle,
yet significant change in the king's appearance, his iconic signet ring,
once a symbol of his former role as Prince of Wales,
has been replaced. Traditionally, King Charles wore a distinctive gold
signet ring on the smallest finger of his left hand,
(08:44):
often paired with his wedding band, which he wears beneath it.
The ring bore the heraldic badge of the Prince of
Wales's three ostrich feathers rising from a coronet with the
motto I Serve. According to jewelry historian Helen and Dimmick,
the ring was gifted to Charles by his great uncle,
Prince Edward, the Duke of Windsor, who held the same
title before his abdication in nineteen thirty six. Dimmick explains,
(09:07):
since the mid seventies, King Charles the Third has been
photographed wearing a signet ring on his smallest finger of
his left hand. This was a very personal and symbolic jewel,
but in the newly released image the ring on his
hand appears different. Some observers believe the undated piece carries
a coat of arms more closely associated with Prince Philip
Charles late farther rather than familiar Prince of Wales insignia.
(09:29):
The original ring, thought to be over one hundred and
seventy five years old, was not only a piece of
jewelry but a historic tool of royal identity, with roots
dating back to ancient times when signet rings were used
to authenticate documents. While bucking and Palace has not commented
on the change, the swap may reflect a new chapter
in Charles's life as monarch, symbolically closing the door on
(09:50):
his decades of air apparent and perhaps quietly embracing his
rollers sovereign and son. And there you have it. Trying
to email us. Our address is the Palace Intrigue at
gmail dot com, and please send us an email if
you're having any issues hearing bad audio on some shows.
We received a review from someone who said I sound
(10:10):
like I was in a wind tunnel that we'd like
to narrow this show down and see where it is.
So if you hear something bad, send me a note
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let me know what date that show was. And please
follow us on Spotify, Apple or the app of your choice,
and come see us on Facebook. Just search for palas
intrigue on Facebook groups or Facebook pages, or on Instagram.
(10:33):
I'm Mark Francis my thanks to John McDermott. This is
palace intrigue and good terms.
Calorougus Shark Media.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello and welcome to Palace Intrige game your host, Mark Francis.
It may be the end of Prince Andrew and Sarah
Ferguson's public presence within the royal family, as King Charles
reportedly has made the decision to keep both the Duke
and Duchess of York at arm's length, following the emergence
of emails suggesting that Sarah Ferguson maintained contact with Epstein
(00:38):
long after publicly disavowing him in twenty eleven. While Andrew's
own connection to the discreased financier has long dogged the monarchy,
this new detail has reignited scrutiny. A royal source told
The Sunday Times that the pair are not expected to
attend the traditional Christmas festivities at sandra Ham this year,
(00:59):
nor are they likely to be welcome at future family events.
You can't sack someone from being your brother, but this year,
if the Duke and Duchess were both to be as
honorable as last year, it would be very much for
the best and the family would not be disappointed. A
family friend adds, the King is not of the mind
to banish someone worshiping a church or attending family occasions
(01:21):
like a funeral, but he would hope that they would
find a more discreet way of attending these events. In
the Duke of York's case, he seems to relish the
prospect of not being low key about it. Prince William
has made no secret of his frustrations, and earlier report
from The Daily Beast quoted a sources saying William always said,
just cut Andrew off completely. Charles was so desperate to
(01:43):
be seen as embodying the spirit of Christian forgiveness that
he let Andrew back in. Now, with public patients wearing thin,
it appears King Charles's finally drawing firm boundaries, though for
someone within the family it may be a case of
too little, too late any male's. Richard Kay suggests a
risk in pushing Andrew too far away. He explains, if
(02:06):
he is pushed too far, how might Andrew react? Would
he follow his nephew's lead and write a memoir which
could potentially be even more devastating for the royals. In
Prince Harry's book, can Charles bring himself to sever all
links with the brother who for twenty two years was
his immediate heir. Can he be firm without being cruel?
With more possibly to come out about Andrew and Epstein,
(02:28):
his legacy as a monarch may depend on it. In
the Royalist, Tom Sykes suggests we are seeing a shift
in the balance of power from father to son. Sykes riots,
this is not about who gets how many roast potatoes.
It is about the structure, the anatomy, the sinews of
the monarchy. Who holds power, who makes decisions, Who defines
the institution's survival strategy. The answer is now clear. William,
(02:52):
make no mistake. This is an utter humiliation for Charles
who expended significant political capital against the advice of his
son and his key aid, Sir Clive Alderton, to invite
Andrew to join the family at Christmas twenty twenty two,
and then incredibly invited Sarah Ferguson, who tried to sell
access to Andrew in a videotaped sting for five hundred
pounds and twenty ten. Don't believe the spin and the
(03:14):
Sunday Times that this is the King's decision and William
supports it. This is just clever journalistic diplomacy by the
ever skillful Royer Nicker It's clear to everyone with a
political antenor that this is William's hard won victory, and
events have forced the aged, weak father to comply with
his son and heir. It is Charles who has been dragged,
against his own attempts to the contrary, into accepting William's
(03:37):
harder line. Of course, the King and the Prince of
Wales are not only divided on Andrew, but also on style, tone,
and fundamental questions of how the monarchy should conduct itself
at Harry to the mix and the differences multiply, the
UK Press rarely mentions the looming fact shaping all of this.
Charles is gravely ill, not expected to live much more
than a couple of years, and is supposed, according to press,
(04:00):
to be seeding control to William. However, he has resisted
handing over power in the same way his own mother did.
Elizabeth allowed childs to co run the monarchy during her
last decade. It's intriguing that the King climbed down after
spending time with William and Scotland this week. The Palace
tried to present last week's father son meeting in Scotland
as a summit of unity. The truth as my readers
(04:23):
know is different. Williams stayed at Balmoral, eight miles from Burkehall,
where Charles and Camilla are based. He spent much of
his time shooting grouse with friends. This was no cozy
weekend of father son bonding. It was a negotiation and
William emerged with his father's head more palace in just
a moment. If you're a fan of true crime and
(04:45):
justice stories, please check out our sister podcast, Celebrity Trials.
It's a daily show diving into all the current trials
going on around the country, and then sometimes we dive
into some of the more classic cases, like this week
is the thirtieth anniversary of the O. J. Simpson Trial verdict,
(05:06):
and the show is covering eight months of the trial
in eight days, eight Days of OJ. Check it out
Celebrity Trials wherever you get your podcasts. Megan Michael's role
in a high profile Los Angeles gala has come into
question after her name was left off the official program
for the rescheduled event. The Duchess of Sussex had originally
been due to attend the Night of Wonder gala at
(05:29):
the Natural History Museums of Los Angeles County in June,
where she was set to be honored for championing women
and underserved communities. The event, designed as an enchanted garden
at night, complete with immersive exhibits and live music, was
postponed due to protests in the area, and now has
been rescheduled for October fifteenth. When announcing the original event,
(05:49):
Museum president Laurie Bettison Vargas said, we are proud to
honor Megan, Duchess of Sussex and Native Angelino, whose work
to advance community well being and expand opportunity, especially for
unders served communities, aligns with our equity focused approach to
developing science literacy for the next generation. However, with tickets
for the autumn gala prized at fifteen hundred dollars, Meghan's
(06:11):
name no longer appears on the official schedule, and reports
suggest her attendance remains uncertain. The Duchess's representatives and the
museum have yet to comment. Meghan Michael has given fans
another glimpse into her private life, this time sharing a
video from a relaxed evening with friends. The duchess posted
the short clip to Instagram showing the game of Marjong
(06:31):
in progress at her Montecito home. Seated around the table
with three friends, Meghan revealed her Marjong tales laid out
alongside a glass of wine and another drink. The lighthearted
moment was set to Elizabeth Mitchell's Little Eliza Jane. Meghan
has previously spoken about her fondness for game nights in
her Netflix series With Love Megan. She explained, the game
(06:51):
itself is really so fun, but what was so great
was the idea of learning something new with your friends
together and then recognizing that Marjong becomes the background of
the expansion of friendship. Sir Gary Aldman has officially been knighted.
The sixty seven year old actor received the honor at
Windsor Castle on Tuesday in a ceremony presided over by
the Prince of Wales. Known for his remarkable range, Oldman
(07:14):
has played everyone from Said Vicious to Winston Churchill, a
role that earned him the Academy Award for Best Actor
in twenty eighteen for the Darkest Hour. He was also
widely recognized as Serious Black in the Harry Potter series,
commissioner Jim Gordon in Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, and
most recently as Jackson lamb in Apple TV's Slow Horses.
(07:35):
Also honored at Windsor was actress Samantha Morton. England Football,
the Rachel Daily, part of the Lioness's triumphant Euro twenty
twenty two squad, was named an MBE for services to football.
There was a half felt moment between siblings and the
Princess Anne unveiled a new portrait of her brother at
the Scottish Parliament in Holyrood. The photograph, filled with sentimental detail,
(07:59):
now hangs alongside had a portrait of their late mother,
Queen Elizabeth, captured by a photographer Millie Pilkington in the
sunken garden at Balmoral Castle last autumn. The image shows
the King wearing his own Charles, the third Tartan killed
and holding a handcrafted stick gifted by the May Highland Games.
The relaxed setting and familiar retire offer a nod to
the royal family's deep rooted tires to Scotland. As Princess
(08:22):
Anne removed the covering cloth, she smiled warmly and placed
her hand over the frame, a quiet, affectionate gesture that
did not go unnoticed. Also not going unnoticed was a subtle,
yet significant change in the king's appearance, his iconic signet ring,
once a symbol of his former role as Prince of Wales,
has been replaced. Traditionally, King Charles wore a distinctive gold
signet ring on the smallest finger of his left hand,
(08:44):
often paired with his wedding band, which he wears beneath it.
The ring bore the heraldic badge of the Prince of
Wales's three ostrich feathers rising from a coronet with the
motto I Serve. According to jewelry historian Helen and Dimmick,
the ring was gifted to Charles by his great uncle,
Prince Edward, the Duke of Windsor, who held the same
title before his abdication in nineteen thirty six. Dimmick explains,
(09:07):
since the mid seventies, King Charles the Third has been
photographed wearing a signet ring on his smallest finger of
his left hand. This was a very personal and symbolic jewel,
but in the newly released image the ring on his
hand appears different. Some observers believe the undated piece carries
a coat of arms more closely associated with Prince Philip
Charles late farther rather than familiar Prince of Wales insignia.
(09:29):
The original ring, thought to be over one hundred and
seventy five years old, was not only a piece of
jewelry but a historic tool of royal identity, with roots
dating back to ancient times when signet rings were used
to authenticate documents. While bucking and Palace has not commented
on the change, the swap may reflect a new chapter
in Charles's life as monarch, symbolically closing the door on
(09:50):
his decades of air apparent and perhaps quietly embracing his
rollers sovereign and son. And there you have it. Trying
to email us. Our address is the Palace Intrigue at
gmail dot com, and please send us an email if
you're having any issues hearing bad audio on some shows.
We received a review from someone who said I sound
(10:10):
like I was in a wind tunnel that we'd like
to narrow this show down and see where it is.
So if you hear something bad, send me a note
at the Palace Intrigue at gmail dot com and just
let me know what date that show was. And please
follow us on Spotify, Apple or the app of your choice,
and come see us on Facebook. Just search for palas
intrigue on Facebook groups or Facebook pages, or on Instagram.
(10:33):
I'm Mark Francis my thanks to John McDermott. This is
palace intrigue and good terms.
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