PO EP:146 Bigfoot on the Tennessee/Georgia Line

On this episode we welcome BFRO Investigator Lori Wade to the show. Lori leads the BFRO expeditions in both Tennessee and Georgia and was a recent speaker at The Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference. Lori goes into great detail about her investigations and how to get involved, as well as some of her personal experiences with Bigfoot. This was one of the better talks we’ve had in some time!

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Episode Transcript

(00:01):
I was listening to the story aboutIt was the story of a family in
Washington, and the little boy calledthe big Foot the cowboy man, and
he had apparently it had made aneffort to steal this kid. And it
hit me. My children were inthat play, him behind me with nothing
but a mosquito net over them.It could have crept up behind me and

(00:25):
taken both of my children, andI wouldn't know. His father just got
like a mustang or something white owingokay. He had it out in the
corral because he couldn't put it inthe barn in the stalls with the other
horses that would kick and made allthe other ones is nervous at a seminal

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Indian working the horse, trying tobreak it every day. They had it
out in the carawl. This skunkgame snuck up behind his horse and grabbed
it bonnets, hind quarters. Thisparticular horse kicks out, jumps over the
corral, runs into the pair,you know, to get away. At
this point the rancher's out there justblessed away with the thirty thirty skull,
gave lens and said a slamp.I went up there one day after that

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or two days after that, Iwent up there and sat in the silence
up there, and I'm telling you, man, it was free. It
was crazy, you know it was. There was a crazy vibe up there.
Still. I did what I couldto kind of get things under control.
But I told her, I said, you didn't even get off this
problem. I feel like, nomatter how strong you are, it's almost
like standing in the ocean. Youcan't stand still without moving your feet.

(01:34):
You're going to get knocked over eventually. No matter how strong whatever, you
can't withstand a barrage of a weirdspiritual energy. Hey, what's up everybody,
Twine, Welcome back to Paranormal Odyssey. Got a good show lined up
for you today. A chance tosit down with Miss Lorie Wade Glory is

(01:57):
with the BFR. She as aninvestigator down here in the state of Tennessee
in my neck of the woods.Actually, issue was recently a speaker at
the Smokey Mountain big Foot conference upin Gatlinburg, Tennessee, and did a
really really good job. Had achance to be at that event and listen
to her speak, and she andI talked for a little bit up there,

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and she agreed to come on boardan interview and we had just a
really really good talk with her overon Paranormal Odyssey Live. Happy to bring
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please. All right, I guessthat's enough of all of that. I
know that you are ready. Iam ready. Miss Laurie Wade is ready.
Let's get started. Laurie. Howare you doing, ma'am? I'm
good. How are you one?Doing? Very very well? Thank you
so much for taking the time tocome and visit with me. I appreciate

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it. Hey, it gets meout of my work day, right,
Yes it does, Yes it does? I mean you mean you actually have
a job other than the bfr O. I do. I have many jobs.
I feel like, but yeah,I have a job. It's it's
my own company. But it's stillyou know, when you have your own
company, you you have a twentyfour hour a day job. You're right,

(03:51):
You're right. You work for yourself. You're always working, right,
because if you don't, they're justgonna go to the next person. That's
right. Don't want that. Uh, Laurie, how long have you been
doing this? How long? Imean, I guess I want to ask
you didn't I'm sure you didn't startout with the bf R. Oh,
like what got you? Okay,well, when did that happen and how

(04:14):
did you fall into that? Intwenty thirteen, I went on my first
expedition, and I had always believedin Bigfoot, but you know, life
happens, and you just you know, you have kids and you have family,
and you just don't do anything aboutit. And one day, actually
my daughter called and said, Mom, you gotta turn on Animal Planet.
There's this show on that you're gonnalove. And I turned on and it

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was Finding Bigfoot, and I waslike, oh my gosh, people actually
do this stuff. And I wenton the next edition, and to be
honest, I was hooked from youknow, hour two. I wouldn't say
hour one, hour one. Iwas like, oh my gosh, I'm
gonna be here with a bunch ofcrazy people. What have I done?
Hour or two? Though, Iwas hooked and started doing it a lot.

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And now my husband says I'm obsessed, and then I'm part of an
occult. He truly does say thathe hates it. He thinks he thinks
Bigfoot's done exist or whatever, andhe says that. He said, you're
just obsessed. He said, youcan't do anything like a little bit of
a hobby. He said, you'rejust throwing yourself one hundred percent into it.
It's kind of right. Yeah,this big post stuff gets in your

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blood. Man. It grabs ahold and it does not let go.
Yeah. I mean, you evenhear something about certain woods or you know
something, you're like, what didI hear the word bigfoot? What?
Your your ears perk up, andall of a sudden you're listening. Yeah,
yeah, that's right. So yousaid twenty thirteen thirteen, So just

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ten years, ten years where Iwould say, you know, maybe when
I was younger, I would reada little bit, but ten years where
I've been hook line and sinker bootson the ground doing this every time I
get a chance. Okay, Sofor those out there that aren't familiar with
doing research and that might want tojoin the b f R, Oh,

(06:05):
how did that work for you whenyou went on your first expedition? Now
you were green, You didn't knowanything about this stuff, So how did
you get from not knowing anything aboutit too? Becoming a member? You
need to go on at least acouple of expeditions and a couple of expeditions

(06:27):
with the BFRO. Now I'm notsaying that you can't do your own research
by all means. I encourage peopleto do their own research, but if
you're a green, go with peoplewho know what they're doing. So I
went on a couple of expeditions,and honestly, the first one I went
on, I had to practice puttingmy tent up out in my driveway before
I left because I had not doneit in so long. Or you know,

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when we went camping, my husbandwould put the tent up and I
thought, man, am I goingto be able to do this? So
after the first one, you know, I immediately asked, when can I
sign up for another one? Where'sthe next one? And basically you contact
the BFRO bfroro dot net. Theylist all the ones that are currently out

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there, and you get a phonecall from that expedition leader. They kind
of give you a feel to seeif you're going to be a good fit
not. You don't necessarily have tobelieve in Bigfoot. You can be a
skeptic, but you don't want togo out there and babysit someone, you
know. I don't want to goout there and put somebody's tent up for
them, you know. I wantto know that they're they're capable of taking

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care of themselves, and I wantto know that they're not going to come
and make fun of anybody else thathas any stories. I don't mind a
skeptic, but you're not going tomake fun of somebody else just because you
don't one hundred percent believe. Socome to a couple of expeditions and then
you can become a member of thebfr O. That's all it really takes.

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And then just start doing your ownresearch, start reading everything you can
do, go out with as manypeople as you can, go, go
to as many areas as you cango to and see because everybody's different and
every location is different. You know, you don't You can research an area

(08:20):
to death and still not know everythingabout it. But the Bigfoot's in Washington
are not necessarily going to be thesame type of character as the ones down
in the South or the skunk apesor whatever. So you know, I
just immerse yourself in it. Don'tpardon my friends, but don't half ass
it. Yeah, go big orgo home, And that's what you do,

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and you don't. I'm not sayingyou have to go pay the BFRO
every time you want to go onan expedition, but understand that that is
a business and it does cost moneyto run an expedition. Permits an insurance
call money. They're not just free. And you know, people don't understand

(09:05):
that National Forest Service. If youcharge someone anything to go in the woods,
their point, you have you're requiredto have a permit. You are
required to pay a permit fee forthat. So the National Forest is not
free, as as one may think. Yeah, yeah, so you go

(09:28):
on a couple of expeditions, youhave to get invited to become a member,
correct, right, Okay, SoOnce that happens, at what point
do you start receiving encounters or reports. Again, it's for you to go
out and investigator. If you wereinvited to be an investigator, and there's

(09:50):
a difference, there is a difference. You could be a BFRO member and
go on expeditions as a repeater,but you're not an investigator. And investigator
is typically going to come from somebodythat's going to sponsor you with the approval
of Matt Moneymaker. And sometimes there'sa scenario that has too many investigators,

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so you don't have you don't havereally an opening. It's not that they
say, okay, we can onlyhave three, but if you have twelve
in North Georgia, you don't reallyneed another investigator in North Georgia. Then
you know there's some that become inactiveor some that life's changes for them.
But when you're an investigator, thenyou have access to the BFRO back website

(10:37):
where all the calls come in,where all the reports come in. And
you know, that's another story altogether, because sometimes you get these calls and
they give you these phone numbers.Oh call me back, I want to
tell you about this. You cantry for months and they're never going to
answer that phone for you, orthey've changed their mind, they don't want
to talk to any about it,not eve about it, or you do

(11:01):
talk to them and then they say, don't I do not want this story
out there, don't post this storyon the website. I just wanted to
tell somebody. It's I mean,I'm sure you've witnessed it. It's it's
kind of crazy, and I understandsome of it. Sometimes people will tell
you stories that they'll say, look, I'm going to tell you this,

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but don't ever don't ever tell anothersoul, or I'll call you a liar.
It's like, okay, you know, and you just hold on to
that information. So a lot ofstuff's not out there, and the website
is behind a lot right now,there's there's so many reports that aren't out

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there, and I mean my personalfile, I've got so many reports that
aren't even on the website, soso it's not accurate. You know,
it makes show ten thousand reports andthere's actually twenty thousand reports out there.
And you know, it seems likeyou have this it's divided. You had

(12:05):
people that love the b f rOH and people that just don't like them
at all. I can understand nomatter what how you feel about the big
Foot Field Research is organization, theb f Yeah, no matter how you
feel about them, that is themost useful thing that there is out there

(12:28):
right now. That's data. Understandthat that Matt he is the premier in
bigfoot research. He started this.Yeah, and you know he was the
entrepreneur in and I hate to callit a business, but you know it
is a business. It is livingis a business. No matter whether you

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are a vendor or whatever, itis a business. It doesn't mean it's
not real research, but it isa it is a business. But you
have to respect what the BFRRO standsfor. And you cannot judge people because
they're in the bfr O just becauseyou don't like the bfr O. You
know, what are your reasons fornot liking them. You can't judge everyone

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for a bad experience. Yeah,I mean it's so useful. One of
the first things I do when Igo into a new area, I mean
the first thing that I do isI pull up the bf R and see
how many encounters are and that whatI said, that is so backlogged.
Right now that you know your bestbet for you, someone like you,

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is to get in touch with someinvestigators that are in that area, find
out what's not on the site sothat you have a clearer picture. And
all the investigators I know are absolutelywilling to share info with you as to
hey, you know what, Iwouldn't go there, or hey there's dog
men reports there, or you knowthat place has played out, the big

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Foots aren't there anymore, you know. But all my investigat your friends are
perfectly willing to share info. Getvery cool record. I didn't know that.
I would love to get some newareas under my belt. Yeah,
And I think you and I someof our areas overlap of our areas.
We go in the same places.Where do you live, Wayne, I'm

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in Chattanooga, Okay, all right, so I see you're really you're you
are? You are in my doorstepbecause you know I'm in Utawa. Yep.
So there's so many places within ahundred miles of you and I we
could squatch every day of the yearand not be in the same spot.
That's the truth. Yeah. Yeah, I share a lot of info with

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you of places that I want totry out and check out that I haven't
done yet or haven't done enough researchin that area. Yeah, so switching
gears a little bit. You were, well, you and I were both
at the Smoky Mountain Conference here lastmonth. Yeah. We actually, you

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and I had we talked a littlebit at the the IP dinner. I
didn't get talk enough. I gotbusy. Yeah, yeah you did,
but we, uh we sat atthe same table at the VIP dinner.
And is a really really good time. Was that your first time ever presenting
at a conference? Uh? No, that's the biggest conference that I've ever

(15:31):
presented at. I'd actually spoken atSmoky Mountain Conference once before, but just
basically I don't know, you know, like a little twenty minute excerpt up
there, and that was at thebeginning of when Nikki started doing those.
And I've done the I've done theoh, what is it the North Carolina

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one Western North Carolina. I usuallyspeak at that just about every year,
but those are you know, thoseare more festivals. Yeah. So that's
the first big conference that I've talkedabout. How how was that was that?
Were you nervous? I was nervousthe first few minutes, and then
I'm like, Okay, it's fine. I'm just gonna talk to these people,

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and you know, I'm not oneto I'm not gonna circle pictures and
say here, look, look hard, here's a big foot. That's not
who I am. I'm just goingto talk to you about what I do
and the places I go. Andyou know, do I have any great
prints to show anybody? No?Not really, do I have some prints
that I don't show people. Yeah, I'm not looking to be judged and

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I'm not looking to I'm not lookingfor any notoriety. I do this because
I enjoy it and because i wantto learn more. Yeah, yeah,
and from everything I've heard, andmainly you know from John, from doctor
John Barnshawk, you go above andbeyond and your your investigations that you lead,

(17:03):
the ones that you put on.He talks about you catering the food,
and they're all of the pre scoutingthat goes into it. Tell us
a little bit about what goes intoputting on an investigation for the BFR.
Oh, well, first, youknow, you want to you want a
good area, an area that you'veeither had reports on or that you have

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seen things yourself, or whether theybe stick structures or just things that you
think, okay, I need tocheck this area out. As I was
talking to you before the show,the last two days I've spent in the
woods, and man, was ithot. I wouldn't normally go scouting in
August for an expedition that's in November. Yeah, but the opportunity arose.

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I was not too far from thearea, and I thought, I just
got to do it, regardless ofhow hot I am. Now. There
was no animal activity. I heardsome coyotes, I heard some owls,
saw one deer, but I meanall the normal stuff other than the tree
frogs and the spiders and the snakes. That was it. And I thought,
okay, it's too hot for anything. You know, they're going to

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be down near the water, anda lot of the creeks and streams where
I was at was dried up,shockingly but it was dried up. So
it was just too hot for anything. But at least I did my due
diligence. I got out there.I checked out some things, you know.
I did look for tracks, Idid look for other signs, and
that's what you do. You finda good area and then you work that

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area for a while. I nevergo into an area cold, not for
it might be a private but notfor a BFRO. I would never want
somebody to pay money for an areathat I've not even done any researching.
And you know as well as Ido. You could go to a hot
area and when you're there there maynot be the first thing happen that's out
of our control. Yeah, soyou know that's all you could do.

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All you can promise people. AndI tell people this all the time.
It's not a practice speech, it'sthe truth. If you like to hike,
and you don't even have to hikea lot, if you like to
camp, if you like having fun, then you're gonna have fun on the
next edition, because I promise you, I'm gonna feed you well. You're
gonna meet some wonderful people that youbecome lifelong friends with. You are going

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to learn something about bigfoot research,and hopefully we'll have some kind of activity.
But I can't promise you that,but I can promise you everything else.
Very true, that's very very true. Have you ever had anyone complain
and just bitch about spending the kindof money that they spent and not have

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any activity. No, No,I've never had anybody complaint. I've had.
Honestly, I know of two peoplethat didn't come back. Usually I
have a very big repeater list,and one man. We were in North
Georgia at the time, and youknow, you can't tell a whole lot
from an interview. You talked tohim. You think they're going to be

(20:11):
a good fit, and then theyget there and you could kind of tell
they're out of their element. Yeah, this one gentleman, he got there
kind of late. He missed likethe opening stuff, and he joined us
on the night hike and he wasscared it. Nothing honestly happened scary that
night. He was he was nervous. The next morning, he came to

(20:33):
breakfast and I was like, Okay, we're gonna do debrief. Here's our
agenda for today. Well, heactually wasn't staying in our camp. He
was staying down the road at alittle rental camp or something. He didn't
come back that day, and Ithought, where is he? So I,
you know, I rode down theroad to check on him, and
he's gone. I was just gone, and I you know, I asked
that camp host. I'm like,you know, the gentleman that was in

(20:55):
this camp or that y'all read todo, and they're like, no,
he left. I try calling him, I tried doing everything, couldn't get
in touch with him. Kind ofworried me, but at the same time,
I thought, well, do theleast you could have done, and
said, hey, you know what, I overestimated myself this. I'm not
comfortable with this. I think hegot embarrassed that he couldn't do it,

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you know, And he just said, I'm not I'm not going back,
but answer the phone, tell meyou're okay, tell me you're okay.
And then I had one other personjust said that they thought it was going
to be a much smaller group,you know, of ten or twelve people,
and they kind of thought that Iwas going to walk by like an
Audubon zoo and say, if you'lllook to your right, the Bigfoots will

(21:37):
be up on the hill, youknow. But honestly, that's the only
real what I would consider a complaint. You're always gonna have people, it
says man. It rained, andI'm like, I can't control it.
You know, we go out inthe rain. I mean, I would
love to have seventy degrees at theday and fifty at night, and sunshine

(22:00):
and beautiful. But you know youcan't reschedule them either. I mean,
once you've scheduled them and you've gotyour permits and you've filed for your you
know, two million dollars worth ofliability insurance, you can't just say,
oh, guys, I know y'alltook off work, but it's going to
rain this weekend. I think we'llgo next weekend. You know, animals
are animals are hominids. However youwant to refer to big Foot. They're

(22:25):
out regardless of the weather. Wedon't know for sure that the activity is
less during the rain because it's rainand we can't hear. I mean,
you know, they may be out, be wandering around right beside us and
you don't know it. Very true, very true. Speaking of ta plaints,
I would just say there's a there'syou know, less than a handful

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of people over the twenty five twentysix that I've ran that don't come back
and don't go to anybody else's becauseit's just not and some of it it's
a bucket list. Oh this iscool, and Kitchie, let me go
on a big Foot hunt. Okay, Either you're, like you mentioned some

(23:08):
people being upset about the number ofpeople. How many do you typically have
or an investigation. Okay, soyou can take however many you want.
Okay, what I consider base camp, I don't base camp is base camp.
That doesn't mean you're taking forty peopleout on a trail. You know,

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the places I go, I mayhave two dozen trails that we're going
to go on. So the mostI ever take on a trail is eight
people, but I may have fortyat base camp. There may be forty
people there, but again that's atbase camp. Then we split up and
go our different directions, and you'rereally covering the forest or covering an area

(23:55):
when you do it that way.Yeah. So I mean, while if
it was me personally, i'd haveten of my best friends go and we'd
just we'd just go and then we'dprobably say, let's split up into two
groups. But for an expedition,I have no problem taking forty. You
know, the more of the merrier, and again, the friendships you make,

(24:18):
and I just have to feed alot more people. I have to
bring them U haul when I takethat many people, and I do bring
a U haul on every expedition fullof stoves and you know, all sorts
of things that you know, justthe canopies alone. You know, you
have eight big pop up canopies thattakes a lot of room in your vehicle.

(24:40):
Yeah, now, did you purchasethat stuff or is it I did?
If if I showed you a pictureof I have a secondary garage at
my house and we used to justkeep my husband's bass boat in there.
And as a matter of fact,we had family from out of towny in
this weekend and he took them downthere. He said, I want to
show you all this. I wantto show you, he said. My

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wife started with a pup tent.He said she had a pup tent a
Coleman stove in Atlanta, And hesaid, and I want you to look
at this because I literally have takenover the whole garage. I own eight
tenths. Who owns eight tenths?Well, I do, because I have
set up tents for people. Whenthey said, well, I'll have to
buy a tent, I'm like,don't worry about it, I've got one.

(25:21):
I'll bring you a tent. AndI have tents for different seasons and
tenths for you know, if it'sjust gonna be me on some little forest
road. I might have a puptent. If I'm going to be in
a nice camp ground, I mighthave a six person tent that I can
put my cot in. So yeah, I've purchased. The BFRO does not

(25:41):
provide me with any equipment. Anyequipment I have is strictly on my own.
And like I said earlier, gobig or go home. And I
believe in I believe in doing thingsthe right way. And I tried to
treat the attendees the way I wouldwant to be treated. And I went

(26:03):
on a lot of expeditions before Istarted hosting them, and there were things
I didn't like on some and thenare things I did like. And I
said, I mean, this isbeing arrogant. I guess. But I
told one of my friends one time, I said I can do this and
I can do this better and theystarted laughing and they're like, what do
you mean. I'm like, Iwas an event cord eight or in another

(26:23):
city years ago. I know,and it doesn't mean mine are completely organized,
but I know what it takes tomake people happy, and like the
whole food thing, I enjoy makingsure that people aren't coming on an expedition
to worry about what they're going tohave for dinner and have to go cook
it or eating a peanut butter sandwich. They come on an expedition to go

(26:47):
hunt Bigfoot and to learn stuff,So why can't I have my team cook
for them and then you just haveto show up at six o'clock for dinner
or eight o'clock for breakfast or whatever. Yeah, it's awesome. John was
telling me a lot about the extrastuff that you do, and it's amazing.
Speaking of John and doctor John BarrenChalk, we got our first question.

(27:11):
Yeah, first question for you,and I think it's a great one.
Do you have any suggestion to distinguishbetween an owl and a big boot
imitating an owl? Listen to lotsand lots and lots of audio, lots
of owl calls. Listen to asmany of them as you can, and
then always have your audio recorder going. You know, from the minute you

(27:32):
open your door in your car,turn it down. Yes, are you
gonna have to filter through a lotof conversations and all that, Yeah,
you are, but that's part ofresearch. But listen to it and then
you can zoom in on that,and you know you'll you'll start to distinguish,
and it still doesn't mean it mightnot have been an owl, but
you'll say, hey, this onesounds a little strange. As a matter

(27:56):
of fact, yesterday we were outand we saw we saw some cows.
They were there was no pasture.They were just wandering down this dirt road.
And we kind of laughed and we'relike, where did these cows come
from? And I said, youknow, we need to remember this because
cows make funny noises. I said, if these cows are wandering down the

(28:17):
road, we see no farm,we see no fence. You know,
when we're squatching that area, maybewe might maybe it's a cow we're hearing
instead of we can't you know,we can't identify that sound. Does that
make sense what I'm saying. Youhave your audio going, and you know

(28:37):
you make no stations when you're scoutingor whatever. It's like, hey,
we saw random cows in the middleof the forest. You kind of know,
Hey, wait a minute, Iheard some strange noises. Like wait
a minute, let's find see ifthere's a cow out here. That's funny,
funny, So go back to theyou know, your your start in

(29:00):
the BFR. Oh a little bityou go on your first one, you
get invited to join, you becomean investigator. How at that point did
you go from being an investigator tobeing the one that coordinates the expeditions.
Well, I think I went toa lot of expeditions, and I think

(29:21):
that the host or the other investigatorssaw that I was capable, and I
think it takes a certain kind ofpersonality. You know, there are people
that just do things. I amadmittedly a control freak. I always am

(29:45):
looking at how I can do somethingbetter, or I'm always wanting to suggest
to somebody, hey, you know, if you tried this, or if
you tried because I I'm a controlfreak. There, there's not a nicer
way to put it. So thenI I mean I just literally asked Map
one day. I said I wouldlove to lead an expedition? Would you
allow me to do that? AndHe's like, I've heard a lot about

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you, Gloria. I'd never evenmet Map, And then I started leading
them, and then like even COVIDyear, I had four expeditions during COVID
year and had record numbers because peoplewanted to get out and do something.
Yeah, you know, they werestuck in their houses and even the Forest
Service was like, oh, wedon't know the you know, there's COVID

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And I said, look, we'rein the forest, and we'll follow all
the protocols of washing our hands.I said, you know, when we're
in the car together, we'll putour mask on. But we're in the
forest. We're in the safest placewe can be. So and then I
I mean, I think, Ithink. I think I run a good
expedition. I think people enjoy it, and for the most part, like

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the way I do things. AndI try to make all the investigators have
a job, and I try tomake sure that all the attendees. You're
not with the same person, you'renot with the same group, you're not
on the same trail every night,you're doing something different every night. And
whether we have a casting class,I don't make you come to it.
It's your money. If you don'twant to come to the casting class,

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don't come. But it would begreat to be able to see how to
cast a print. I was justin Washington and Idaho the week before the
Smoky Mountain Conference, and we wentdown in this creek bed and there was
just six of us and we werelooking for ye know tracks. Well,
we didn't find any big foot tracks, but we came across a huge wolf

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track and I was like, holycrap, that's big. You know,
you're looking around going maybe we don'tneed to be down in this creek bed.
But we cast it anyway because itwas a fun thing to do and
it was a great thing that wehad casting material and we could do it.
It doesn't have to necessarily be abig foot track, and there's bobcasts
or there's all sorts of things,and it just gives you more practice and

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practicing something at camp or at expeditionand having people put their footprint and cast
their own print. Well then maybethe next time they go out and they've
got their little bag of casting material, they could say, oh my gosh,
I found this and you you actuallygot evidence of a print, whether
it's big that or not. Youknow, you took It's better than taking

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a picture because you take a pictureand you have you have nothing, and
you can always say, look,I cast this print. We later found
out it was somebody that was walkingback, but it's just pretty awesome thing
to have. It's a pretty goodskill to have now in the twenty plus
expeditions that you've led, that you'veorganized. Have you ever gotten interference from

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an outside organization, a government organization. Has anyone ever shown up and giving
you a hard time? On thelast day of one expedition, another group
showed up in our area, andyou know, I was just like,
hey, look, we're leaving.Here's some things. I mean, I
shared it with him. I light, here, you know, you should

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might try this trail. We sawsome things back there, or heard some
things. I did have a rangershow up in North Georgia, and you
know, we were kind of parkedalong the side of the road at this
campground and he showed up and hecame up. You know, I see
him walk him up, and Iwalk up to him. I'm like,
hey, how are you doing.I introduced myself and he said. The
first thing out of his mouth isI need to see your permit. I

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said, okay, So I pulledthe signature page and handed it to him.
He said, no, I needyour whole permit. So I pull
out, you know, the sixteenpages of permit. He stands in my
campsite and reads the entire thing andhe looks at me and he says,
you don't have it. You don'thave permission to have these eight or nine
cars parked on the side of theroad. And I'm like, what I

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mean? I literally thought he waskidding. And he said, you need
to have that in the permit.The next time this happens, is that
you're going to have cars parked onthe side of the road. And I
said, okay, and you andI I'm a little thinking, you know,
I'm going what's going on here?And then he said, answer a
question for me. He said,how come you're out here in my forest?

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And he was an assistant ranger.Okay, let's get this straight.
He said, how come you're outhere in my forest and I don't know
anything about it? Why do Inot know that you're out here doing this?
And I looked at him and Ipulled the signature page out again and
I said, your boss, theforest ranger, signed off on him on

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it. I said, so ifyou have a problem with it or you
don't know about it, maybe that'ssomething you should take up with your with
your boss. And he looked atme and he just stared at me kind
of mean for a second, andhe said, you know what, You're
right, He did not inform us, and I said, I you know
that I'm not being ugly, butthat's not my problem exactly permit I paid

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my permit fee, your boss signedthe application, but you know, and
he backed off. And then wewere actually having steaks for dinner that night,
and I said, would you liketo eat with us? And he's
like, no, I gotta yeah, I gotta keep working. But you
know, he calmed down after that. But that was an issue that shouldn't
have been with me. It shouldhave been with his supervisors. But no,

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I mean, I've never well.Another time, in another area of
North Georgia, we had some bearhunters come up and they were not very
nice people. It was a manand a woman. They were all dressed
in black and they were driving ablack Mercedes SUV. Didn't seem like bear
hunters. Okay, did not seemlike bear hunters. But they came up

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and we had all the camp sitestaken and they kind of pitched fit and
said we we camp here every year, and I'm like, well, I'm
sorry. You know, it's noteven a reservable camp site. It's just
first come, first serve. Andthey threatened us and threatened some of our
people and said, you better hopethat we don't think you're a beayor,
because we will shoot you. That'swhat they said to us. And I

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literally had to this is a funnystory. I'm glad you asked this.
So at two o'clock in the morning, there were a couple of women that
were quite scared. They were like, okay, we think we saw them
following us, blah blah blah.So I said, okay, we had
no phone service. So I gotme and this other gentleman at two o'clock
in the morning to drive into townto where I could get phone service,

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and I called the Sheriff's department andsaid, okay, look, I need
to report this because I don't wantanything to happen. Well, my friend
had on these overalls and he hadlike one side undone, so it was
hanging out he you know, helooked like a hillbilly. And I'm sitting
there talking to the Sheriff's department.Said pull into this gas station and we'll

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meet you there. So that's whatI did, and we get out.
I'm telling them what happened. Isaid, they threatened some of our people.
We're not doing anything. We're permittedto be out here, and the
police officer he's taken notes, he'sgot his partner there, and he said,
okay. He said, so whatis it that y'all are doing?
So what is this you're doing here? And I kind of looked at him

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and I'm like, well, we'rehunting bigfoot. And he's like, excuse
me, excuse me. What'd yousay? And I said, yeah,
we're having bigfoot. He's like,man, I can't understand you. What
are you saying. I'm like,okay, we're researching and hunting for bigfoot.
And he's starting to write and helooks up at me. He stares
at me a minute. He looksat his partner. He said they're hunting

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big foot. And his partner said, yeah, I heard. He closes
his notebook and says, tell youwhat, ma'am, I'm not going to
write up this report. I'll justfollow you out to camp. I'll ride
around a little bit and make sureeverything's okay. And I was like,
okay, thank you. I mean, it was hilarious because we just I

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didn't want to tell him. Yeah, I had to tell him, and
you know, those people were gone, but they literally were there several hours
going down the same roads for aservice roads that we were going down.
And I don't think they were bearhunters. I actually think they were probably
having something to do with drugs orwhatever. But it was a it was

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a funny situation because I know thatpolice officers were like, these people that
look like they're from the Hillbillies arehunting big foot and they want me to
write a report on it at twoa m. In the morning, I'm
not doing it. Well, ifyou're anything like me, you didn't even
care if they were at a report. You just wanted them to ride back
there, right, I mean,I didn't want somebody to come up and

(38:52):
get be shot or shot at.And then those people go like, oh,
well I thought it was a bear. Well, number one, you
shouldn't be hunting at night. Youknow, that's a big no note.
But you never know with people howserious they are. When they say,
oh, I bet you better hopeI don't think you're a banger. I
will shoot you. It's like that'sa threat. That's not even a joke.
That's a threat that I wasn't eventhere, and that just pissed me

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off. Floor. Yeah, butyou know, for the most part,
I mean, you know, sometimespeople will come up to you and see,
like our goal doing something with bigfoot. We're like now and they're
like, you got big foot stickersall over your car. It's like,
yeah, you whoops, gave itdead giveaway? Huh yeah. How you

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were telling that story talking about notreally wanting to tell the police officer.
It made me think about the timethat my buddy and I went up to
a pigeon Mountain in Lafayette, Georgia, and uh, we stopped It was
our first time ever there, andwe stopped in to checked in with the

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ranger at the stay and then justknow how we're gonna be camping? Do
we need to are there any feet? What do we need to do?
Are we good? So stopped inand he was very polite, very personal,
you know, mid twenties. Youknow, I don't even think he
was thirty yet. But he wasa real nice young man and I felt
comfortable with him. And finally Ijust said, Okay, here's what we're

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doing. We're up here, we'vehad reports, we've heard reports of bigfoot
activity. Is there anything you cantell me? Have you ever experienced anything
out of the ordinary? And Lord, I swear to God. He looked
at me with the straight face andhe said, no, no, big
boot. But we got Gnomes.I said, Gnomes. I couldn't help

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but laugh and smile. Now you'reshipping me Gnomes. He said, no,
I'm not kidding you. He nevercracked a smile. I'm not kidding
you. There's been several reports ofpeople seeing these little people running around in
the woods, like tiny little people, and they call them nothing record of
that last week? Did you reallyyes? And I was like, and

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it was in Tennessee, and Iwas like, what what what you hear?
Yes, the little people. I'mlike, okay, you know,
what do you do? Did Ilose you? No? I don't think
so. Again, Yeah, myscreen is timing out or something. Okay,
there you go. So what didyou hear about the gnomes? But

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that they were little evil people that'lldo mean things to you. But this
was in this was in Tennessee.This was in East Tennessee. And but
we'll do mean things to you andyou to be careful. And I was
like, okay, you know,it's like you kind of freaking me out
a little bit here, because youknow, there's certain things I believe in
a lot of things. I believein UFOs. I believe in Nessy.

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You know, dog Man scares me. Truth, dog Man scares me.
So I'm not saying I don't believein him, but I don't want to
know anything about it. But you'retalking about little little people. I mean,
I'll like to think of his,you know, I'll like to think
of his his spurfs or they blew, you know. I want to know.
I want to work. But NativeAmericans that believe in the little people,

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I think so, I don't know. But he was dead serious,
and he said that one of thepeople that reported it was like a twenty
or thirty year veteran in the Rangersthat swore he's seen them a couple of
times. He said that they weredoing some earthwork up there, moving like
with heavy equipment, dozers and aback host. They were doing some work

(42:36):
up there somewhere, and some ofthe workers had seen them and reported it
to went and told somebody, andlike a ranger, and the ranger called
someone, and he swore to methat after making that phone call, their
work was shut down. They theyhad to leave. They couldn't work in
that area anymore, whether or nothe was pulling my leg. I don't
know, but he sounded like hewas being honest. Here's the thing that

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I say is that even when somebodytells you something that may sound fantastical,
it doesn't mean it didn't happen justbecause it sounds a little crazy to us.
You can't ever say that person's flatoutline because you weren't there, right,
we weren't there. What if theyreally did see something and we we

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just brush it off as yeah,didn't happen, didn't happen. You know,
you're familiar with Helen. I usedto love going up to what's the
name of that campground up there?Oh, my gosh, I can't think

(43:45):
of it, but you know theyclosed it for they closed it for like
three years and said there was roaddamage. Well, I'll have to think
about it and tell you what thename of it is. But it was
a really good area that I hadtalked to some Native America and they were
squatters, and they had given usa lot of information about a family of
bigfoot up there, and I haddone a lot of research in the area,

(44:08):
so you know, I was tryingto check it out. But I
had also heard reports and had peoplepersonally call me and say, hey,
look, there's some really mean bigfootsin that area. I mean, like
these are vicious ones. Maybe theyweren't bigfoots, maybe they were dogbed,
you know, I don't know,but they said that they were big foots

(44:30):
and said they were vicious. Andthen right after that, kind of strangely
is when they closed that campground andsaid there was road damage and a lot
of tree damage up there and theyhad to close it. And it's like,
that's strange, that's weird. Andthey closed it was closed for like
three years, you know. Andmaybe it's coincidence. Maybe it's coincidence that

(44:52):
what I heard and then them closingit, you know, but I found
it strange for a long time thatthat just coincided with each other. Yeah,
I wonder if there were any missingpeople reports that time. I didn't
ever find any, but I mean, I mean, I probably can name

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three people that contacted me saying hey, look this is what happened to me.
And I got ran out of thewoods and like literally ran out of
the woods and I was scared todeath. And you know, when you
hear that about a particular area,and then something like that happens, you
got to think that it there's gotto be some truth to it. But

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I was on you know, I'mnot a conspiracy theorist, but you know,
I do believe there's things we don'tknow and things that were not told
and the government proved it with thewhole UFO thing. Right, Oh,
they don't exist. They don't exists. Well maybe maybe maybe we've done about
some of this for a little while. Yeah, we uh got another good

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question from doctor John Bear in Chalk. He gets tired of me calling him
doctor, But I'm not going tostart in your opinion, What makes a
site or location squatching? It's anexcellent question. The biggest thing is I
think you got to have water orwater within a fair proximity. You know,

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how many reports do we hear ofbigfoots in really nice campgrounds or near
cities and stuff? You do hearabout it. But to me, squatchy
is just having enough forest to beable to for them to be hidden and

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connecting to other forests where they canhave a corridor and maybe travel a little
bit. I don't think they gosouth for the winter and north for the
side. I don't believe that,but I do believe they have a corridor
of an area, and the areamay be as little as twenty miles,
who knows, but I think they'vegot to have enough area to to be

(47:07):
able to have food and have water. And you know, as far as
East Tennessee, I think you know, you and I both go to East
Tennessee a lot. You know,the rhododendron, you know, along the
creeks to where you can't see twofeet past you. I always think that
looks squatchy. Yeah, And yetsometimes when you're just riding down a road,

(47:29):
you're like, ooh, this lookssquatchy, just because the way the
forest is. When I was inIdaho and Washington, of course, you
know, the whole landscape is sodifferent, and that whole area looks squatchy
because it was just all conifers andhuge trees, and it was like,
oh, wow, this just looksnothing like where we're from. Wow.

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Yeah, you mentioned water. Thatwas your first That the first thing you
said when describing a squatchy area.And I've always said it's my opinion.
I haven't seen anything to back thisup, but it's my opinion that fish
is a huge part of their diet. And frogs. You think frogs,
Oh, yes, I think finishand frogs. Think about the abundance of

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frogs we have. And turtles.I think they eat. I think they
eat turtles. Again just my opinion. But you go to an area that
maybe has a an old boggy pondon it, or a boggy creek or
something like a boggy creek. Huh. You go to one of those areas
and look at the amount of frogsand fish and stuff, and you know

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they're going to have to have somethingthey can't always catch deer or raccoon or
a rabbit or a squirrel or whatever. And I do I do believe that
they eat both, you know,berries, leaves, fish. I mean
I think they eat. I thinkthey are I think they're opportunistic. I

(48:57):
think they would eat out of atrash can if they if they have to.
Well we've heard sports of people seeingthem in a trash can. What
you know, go to a campground, go to a camp site anywhere you
know what your busiest night is goingto be or the most activity you're gonna
have some I'm gonna be on aSunday night because everybody leaves on that Sunday,
you know, and then the campgroundsare usually empty on Mondays and Tuesday.

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You go to a Sunday night,and something's gonna happen in that campground
and you're gonna hear, you know, them going through the trash or even
with bears or whatever, because they'reeverybody's gone. That's so smart. I've
never thought about that. That makesso much sense. I usually like to
say, hey, let's stay Sundaynight, you know, when everybody else
leaves, Let's you know, justa couple of us stay an extra night.

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Yeah, think about it. That'sawesome. And even if you can't
stay, set yourself up some gamecams or some audio, and then if
you're close enough, come back ina couple of days and get it.
Because I think I think you'd besurprised at what you see. They almost
got I guess more of a commentthan a question. Now I'm a thin

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I believe they have to be atleast a little nomadic. They're too big.
I agree on one thousand percent,but I don't think it necessarily has
to be to South Florida, youknow, I think and any could be
as much as one hundred miles.But I do believe that the base camp
of family stays put. I thinkyou have somewhat of a nomadic centries or

(50:31):
hunters within the family group that bringfood back. I don't think the moms
and the babies move like the huntersto do. You know that makes a
lot of sense. You know you'regoing to be a lot safer moving as
a few of you than moving yourwhole family. Yeah, that's very,

(50:52):
very true. Now, Laurie orWe're running out of time here, But
I do have one question that Iwant to ask before we get out of
here. You know, most membersof the bf r OH, you and
I spoke about this a little beforecoming on. The bf r OH is
known for their scientific approach, theirbiological This is a flesh and blood creature.

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That's all we want to talk about. We don't really accept reports of
what we call woo in the field. But have you yourself personally, have
you seen anything in all your timedoing it that led you to believe that
maybe not, maybe there could besomething to this woo stuff. Speaking as

(51:39):
a person and not as a bfrA representative here, I personally believe we're
talking about two different things. Ithink that there is a gosh, I'll
probably get in trouble for saying this, Okay, I think there is a

(52:00):
big Foot creature, that maybe thenumbers are not massive, and that it's
exactly flesh and blood. I alsothink that maybe there's something else out there
that is very similar to Bigfoot thathas a lot of WU involved in it.

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I have been knocked on my rearend up off my feet twice by
something I could not see really,and people have witnessed it. I mean
I've not I wasn't by myself.People have saw this happen to me,
and it was during Bigfoot hunts,and I can't explain that. I don't

(52:45):
think that was zapping. I trulythink that was paranormal in some aspect.
Kind of scared me both times,but kind of pissed me off too because
I'm like, what the heck justhappened? And again both times people were

(53:05):
with me. The second time wasin East Tennessee not that long ago,
and they literally drugged me out ofthe woodline and was like, leave her
alone, leave her alone. Idon't know what happened, but knocked me
out, just like hit me andknocked me out. I don't think that
was bigfoot. So let me makesure I'm understanding you correctly. Something physically

(53:29):
hit you and knocked you to theground, and you were unconscious for just
a minute, I mean just notlong. I wasn't knocked me out for
thirty to forty seconds, you knowwhere I was like out. As a
matter of fact, one time,the guys that were with me, one
guy's like, did she have astroke? You know, like noody have
a stroke. I'm good, butmy feet came up off the ground during

(53:52):
that incident. And the guy nextto me, who I did not know,
he was from New Jersey. Imean, I didn't know him.
He was a friend of mine.That's gonna lie for me. He told
the other guys. He said,she just got clothesline and she was standing
still. And that's it reminds meof a football you know how the football
guys hit those pad things or thosedummies. That's what it felt like,

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except it hit my head, knockedmy hat off, my head lamp,
my phone went flying, my feetwent up in the air, and I
landed on the dirt road. Thatwas two years ago, not quite two
years ago. And then the lasttime that happened was in February February February

(54:37):
or March of this year. AndI was fine until I stepped right inside
the woodline and I turned and Isaid, something's not right and I bam,
I went down. So now it'skind of it's kind of a joke
amongst the guys that are like,be careful, Laura's gonna go down the
next time we're around her. Hewas like, I don't. There's nothing

(54:59):
physical wrong with me. I've hadyou know, there's it's not something that's
within me. I think as longas I was standing outside that wood line,
I was fine. But once Itook that one step into the woods
for this last time, it waslike back off, you're too close.
And I did see different kind oflights on that one too. I mean

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I saw there was two red lightsthat I saw it. I'm like,
what is that? And I steppedin the woodline and would you call them
orbs? No, because they werea flash that they were a flash friendly.
It almost looked like somebody with thered head lamp that turned it on
and turned it off. But thoselights were also witnessed by somebody else,

(55:43):
not just me. No one elsewas in that woodline because grass had a
question here. He's wondering why tojust you and not anyone else. But
if there wasn't anyone in there,there were five of us there. Everybody
else was in the field. Therewere two people on the other side of
the woods, and I had toldthem, I'm like, hey, I

(56:05):
want you to flash your lights towardsme so I know where you're at.
And they did. We're on theradio. They're like, we're right here.
I'm like, okay, I've gotmy eye on. And I was
standing outside of the woodline and thenI stepped into the woodline to get closer,
and as soon as I did that, I fell down. I mean,
I've got three witnesses that were staringat me from my behind, within

(56:29):
twenty feet of me, that sawme go down. I wasn't walking,
I didn't trip, And the onlything I can think of is is that
I was closest. I mean,I've been zapped an abnormal amount of times.
I've had what some people don't believe, I've had mind speak. I

(56:50):
kind of think I've opened myself upto that stuff. Give me an example
of the mind speak. The mindspeak is that we were on a trail
and we had actually three of ushad just saw a big foot on the
side of the hill coming down thetrees. I mean, we all three
saw it from three different vantage points. We were all probably seventy five yards

(57:15):
apart, and we're all looking atit. And I saw it first,
and I thought, I'm not gonnasay anything. I'm just gonna keep my
mouth shut. Then the person downbehind me said hey, hey, hey,
come here, and I walked downthere and he's like, I want
you to look. I just andI said, you just saw a big
foot come from that tree to thattree. And he's like, how'd you
know? And I'm like, becauseI saw it. And then the person

(57:37):
further up the trail comes running downthe trail and says, guys, I
just saw blah blah blah. Well, we were all excited. We you
know, check out the area.We're trying to find stuff. And then
we said, okay, let's keepwalking, you know, let's let's keep
walking down this trail. And wecome to this part and the trailing us
making a you know, a righthand angle, and I stopped and I

(57:59):
wasn't the leader. There was aguy in front of me, and then
there was somebody me and then peoplebehind me and I stopped and they're like,
what's wrong? And I was notscared, there was nothing. I
had no fear. I was excitedat what we just saw. And I
said, guys, I can't.I can't go any further. And they're
like, are you sitting you knowwhat's wrong? And I said all I
can hear in my head is pleasestop, please go away. And they're

(58:24):
like, what do you mean youhear this in your head? And I'm
like, there's a voice in myhead saying please stop, please go away.
And I took it as the waythat I interpreted it was you've already
seen us, this is our home. Go away. But what I heard

(58:45):
was please stop, please go away. That's buying speak, you know.
That's not me. That's not memaking up something in my head as I'm
walking excitedly wanting to see something else. And I said, I said,
y'all do what you want. I'llsay it right here on this rock and
right weight on you. I'm notgoing any further. And they said,
you know what, Laurie, We'vebeen doing this with you a long time.

(59:06):
If you're telling us that we shouldn'tgo any further, we're not going
any further. And I said,that's what I'm telling you, and we
turned around and left. Didn't doany more research that night. And you
know you would want to do moreresearch unless something scared you. You know,
when something scared. I wasn't scared. There was no fear in any
of us. We were just bubblingwith enthusiasm. Now, just to be

(59:30):
clear, you heard a different voicethan your own say these words to you.
Absolutely, and I'm not afraid totell people that. I'm not ashamed.
I don't care who laughs at me. It happened, and I know
that it happened. I want toexperience mind speak so badly. It fascinates
me, and I want to experienceit. I don't care who knows it.

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I've said it many times when Igo out, every expedition I go
out, every time i'm in thewoods, I tal to him in my
head, just that, just handin my head, that just in case,
just in case, there's something tothis, and they can hear my
thoughts, hear what I'm saying.I want to talk to them. I
want to let them know, hey, I'm not here to bother you.
All I want to do is seeyou. That's it. Just let me

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see you, and if you wantme to leave, I'll leave. I
just I just got to know.Yeah, And I think you should do
that. I think that's important.One of the first expeditions I ever went
on, there was a Native Americanthere and he said, you know,
you really have to open up yourheart if you want to see these things.
And I said, what do youmean. He said, you have

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to be open minded and invite themin to you as a person. And
like I said, I've been zappednumerous times and I don't ever feel like
they were there to hurt me.I just feel like they were there to
put me in my place. Backoff, you're too close to me,
or you're too close to my youngone or whatever. And I think,

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like I said, I've opened myselfup to that. And I think if
they have the abilities we think theyhave, I think they know that.
I think they know that. I'mvery open minded to show me, show
me what you want from they showme you know what you are, show
show me I'm not gonna hurt you, and I'll tell you know. When

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we're walking through woods, I'm like, hey, we're here. You know.
Just this week when I was squatching. When I walked onto this particular
trail that actually the first time Igot knocked down. That's where I was
at. I can't. I walkedin and I said, hey, I'm
back, but i'd appreciate it ifyou don't knock me down this time.
I mean, and you know,the other two guys laughed and I'm like,

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well, I'm not I serious,so don't knock me down this time.
But I am back. Every timeI go out with John and doctor
Baron Chalk, he does this thingat the beginning or he announces that we're
there, and I've never done thatbefore and except with them, and I
think it's a great idea. It'sreally there's some people that laugh at that,

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and I'm like, why are youlaughing? Because it's think about it.
If if we're saying these are humanlike creatures I hate using the word
creatures, human like beings, andwe're saying they're as intelligent as we think
they are, why could they notunderstand us. One of the things I
like to do is is the NativeAmerican flute music or the drums. They've

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been around a long time. Youdon't think that's something they've heard. I
think curious. I'm not the onesthat wants to go out and sit and
be quiet in the woods. Canyou tell I like to talk? I
think if they're curious, they're goingto come to somebody that's that's talking,
not somebody that's sitting over there quiet, trying to hide. There you go,

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Amen, what are you hiding from? What are you going to do
to me? You know you haveno lists. I say it all the
time to everybody, said, it'sso many time you want to have an
encounter these things. In my opinion, you want to have an encounter with
these things. Just go camping.Go, do you be yourself, don't
do anything. Don't go out lookingfor them. You're never gonna find them.

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Just go. They'll get curious,they'll come check you out. Right,
they know you're there. You know, they know you're in their territory,
if that's the territory they're in atthe moment. Yeah, yeah,
all right, Laura, You gotany anything you want to promote? Anything
coming up that you want to talkabout before we get out of here.

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I have I'm doing a first I'mdoing back to back b fro O expeditions.
Don't know what made me think thatI could do this, but I've
got an expedition from November five tothe eighth, which is a Sunday through
Wednesday. Wednesday night's my day off. Then Thursday I start another one from

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Thursday to Sunday. That one isfull. The earlier in the week is
not full yet, but it's reallyclose to the number that I would want
to take. And how would getinvolved with that? It's a bf r
O dot net. Click on thelink that says you know to register and

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then they'll handle it from there andput you in touch with me, and
you know, we can have aconversation very something that you want to do.
Man, thank you so very muchfor coming to hanging out. Appreciate
it. Yeah, if you don'tmind, I'm going to ask you back
before are all sitting down. I'dlove to have you back absolutely all right.

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You enjoy the rest of your day, ma'am. Thank you very much.
You have a good day to you. Bye bye, all right,
byebye. They say you don't wanttago home, to just say, I
don't know you were all out thatchry, this chary, that chime everything,

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call it right back, ride backmy joy for me. Let your
stay right now call it right away. Dass post bout time a poll party

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