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I was listening to the story aboutIt was the story of a family in
Washington and the little boy called thebig Foot the cowboy man, and he
had apparently it had made an effortto steal this kid. And it hit
me. My children were in thatplace. Pen behind me were nothing but
a mosquito net over him. Itcould have crept up behind me and taken
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both of my children, and Iwouldn't know. Father just got like a
Mustang or something from Wyoming, Okay. He had it out in the corral
because he couldn't put it in thebarn with the in the stalls with the
other horses. It would kick andmade all the other horses nervous. Had
a seminal Indian work in the horse, trying to break it. Every day
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they had it out in the corrawl. The skunky snuck up behind his horse
and brammed it bonnets, hind quarters. This particular horse that kicks out,
jumps over the corral, runs intothe pit, you know, to get
away. At this point, theranchers out there just blessed away with the
dirty, dirty sun, gave unsinto the slump. I went up there
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one day after that or two daysafter that, I went up there and
sat in the silence up there,and I'm telling you, man, it
was free. It was crazy,you know it was. There was a
crazy vibe up there. Still.I did what I could to kind of
get things under control. But Itold her, I said, you need
to get off this problem. Ifeel like, no matter how strong you
are, it's almost like standing inthe ocean. You can't stand still without
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moving your feet. You're going toget knocked over eventually. No matter how
strong whatever, you can't withstand abarrage of of weird spiritual energy. Hey,
what's up? Everybody's Wayne? Welcomeback to Paranormal Odyssey. Got a
good show lund up for you today. You had a chance to sit down
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with April the Meal from Texas.April is a psychic. She believes she
was born with that ability, asare we all. She has had several
experiences with cryptids such as bigfoot dogman ferries, she sees dead people,
She's had UFO experiences. She hasall kinds of amazing tales. And I
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had a really good time talking withher over on Paranormal Odyssey Live Tiffany and
Ideas. So I'm excited to bringthat to you but before we get there,
if you would please take a second, go rate and review the show
wherever it is you get your podcasts. If you've got an encounter, I
would like to come on and shareit with me. I would love to
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that subscribe button if you have notalready done so. All right, guys,
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that's enough of all of that.I know you are ready. I'm
ready. Let's get started, April. How are you doing, man,
I'm good. I'm sitting backstage crackingup at all. Y'all's jokes kept me,
kept me entertained. I'm sure itwas Eldor when just had your roll.
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Yeah, that definitely had me going, Well, I'm glad that you
can join us. As we weretelling Tiffany before the show, we've been
you and I've been talking about thisfor close to a year now, and
you had some stuff. Yeah,we're finally able to get your scheduled and
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I appreciate that. Well, thankyou for having me. I'm actually really
excited to finally have made it.Yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.
Everybody a little bit about you.You're a psychic medium. You have channeled
some interesting stuff. Dog I mean, Bigfoot being one of them. You
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know I'm a bigfoot guy. Butwhat I would like you to do is
go back, start at the beginning, when when you first realized that you
had this ability, and do youconsider it an ability or a gift or
what do you consider it? Iconsider it a normal human function. I
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think everybody has it, not everybodyknows what to do with it. And
I came in completely on. Sowhen I was born, I was just
full blown on. And so myfirst experience was actually with a faery and
it scared the fuck out of me. I was not even I think I
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wasn't even quite too yet. Iwas probably closer to one. I couldn't
talk yet, And I remember mymom had put me on my side,
laid me down, and I hada little fairy crawl at the top of
my bear and she looked right atme and said my name, and it
scared me and I went screaming andcrying, running out of the room,
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and things have just you know,ever since then, things have just continuously
come to me. I see deceasedloved ones, I see you know,
there were dead people hanging around mybeds and tugging on my blankets and tapping
on me when I was little,and you know, when you don't understand
why that's happening, it can bereally scary. And I didn't grow up
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in a family that that had anysort of abilities like I did, and
so I didn't have that kind ofsupport. So it was very scary stuff
when I was little. And Ithink I was probably about five when I
realized that it was really bothering thepeople around me because I would see things
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and experience things that they didn't seeand experience. And that's when I started
to really just kind of shut upabout it, because oh, this is
not something people want to hear.It scares them, and so I had
to stuff it for a long time. So up until that point, you
said about five years old, youjust talked about it like it was normal.
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It was It's totally my normal.It was totally my normal. That
was I was completely born on.It was like the veil there was the
veil was just not existing. Idon't want to say it wasn't. It
was just so much thinner, andso I saw things with completely different eyes
and but it was normal for you, but not for others, though you
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had to. At around five yearsold, you figured out that maybe I
needed to keep this to myself,right, And as I did, I
started kind of shutting parts of thatdown. I still had the experiences,
I just couldn't really let the experiencesevolve because I was afraid that it would
upset the people around me. SoI had to keep them at bay the
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best I could. And that's abig burden for a little fucking kid to
carry. I bet, I bet. I've often wondered people like you that
have the ability to see dead people. I'm sure you've seen some pretty raunchy
stuff, like some bad stuff.How how does a kid, a three
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four year old kid, how doyou handle that? So when I was
as an adult, well, right, And that's the thing. When I
was really little, they didn't cometo me in scary forms so much because
my guide kind of kept them incheck. It was scary enough to see
somebody standing at my bed and pokingat me and to call my name and
talk to me, that was scaryenough, but I was so protected.
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It wasn't until I got older thatI had seen some scarier versions. But
once I realized that I was theboss, and this is, uh,
this goes my way. I'm theI'm the channel, I'm the one in
charge. You don't get to presentto me like that and if you're going
to get the fuck out of myroom. So once people realize that they're
actually in charge of what's going onaround them, it changes things. Okay,
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now I've heard you and just aboutevery other side that that I've interviewed,
and it's been several now, talkabout having a goide. Yeah,
tell us about what a god isand tell us a little bit about your
god. So I have two guys. I have a female name Renee,
and I have a bigger guy.I'm just going to call him Greg.
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That's how I know of him,and so you know they're both around.
Renee is my main guide. Gregcomes and goes as I need him.
But everybody has a guide, anda guide is usually somebody that's uh,
you know, assigned to walk thisroad with you and to protect you and
to be your basically your translator betweenhuman and human world and heaven world,
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right like the other side whatever thatis, whatever you want to call that.
And so they're your translator and helpingand helping present some of your struggles
to the other side who's not experiencinga human life, so they have a
harder time understanding our emotions. Sowhat you just described I would view as
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an angel that I mean, youcould call it that, But an angel's
never an angel has never been inhuman form. They're in perfect bliss.
They're already have achieved mastery or perfection. They've never had to come here to
go through this to achieve mastery.They were already born that way. A
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guide has been here before. They'vehad human lives, and so that's why
they're able to help us and beour medium per se. Okay, okay,
so your God's actually lived. Yes, Yes, my GUIDs have been
human before many times. Do yousee them like you're seeing me and Tiffany
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right now? No? Not rightnow? Like right now, I can
access them, I can talk tothem, and I can ask them questions,
But as far as like seeing them, no, I don't. I
don't necessarily see things every day likethat, but I have seen both of
them yes, okay, okay,so can you talk about what they look
like? So, Renee is usuallyI've never really seen her face very clear.
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She's younger. She comes to mein a younger appearance. I want
to say, she's somewhere around midtwenties. And she has long, dark
hair, lighter colored skin, andI always see her in like a white
nightgown. And this is going tosound creepy, but if you've ever seen
the Ring, it kind of remindsme of that, but not scary because
I'm not into the fear based narrative. But like, she kind of has
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that that long dark hair and thelike I always hear in this cream colored,
like white colored nightgown. It's yeah, it's kind of it can be
creepy if you don't know what you'relooking at. So you said the chick
from the Ring, her hair isin her face and you never see her
face. I yeah, And Ihave never seen Renee's face very clearly,
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not not as clearly as I've seenGreg's face. Okay, what about Greg?
What's he looking like? Greg's abig guy. He's he's a bigger
guy. He's also not very old. I'd say he's probably in his thirties
and he has more of like hehas more of like a another country kind
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of vibe like I always picked upon, like French or something like that.
There's something about his background that wasvery different. He has facial hair
kind of like auburn colored alburn colorhair, and a beard. And I've
only seen him once and he's sofunny story. He took human form once
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right in front of me. Scaredme so bad that I filed a three
page police report on him, calledthe cops on my angel. Who the
fuck does that? Right? Whodoes that? But I share you not
in my files. I have athree page police report because I called the
cops on my angel. So untilI realized it took me a minute because
he scared me so bad, Ijust thought he was some creepy dude,
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like hanging out stalking me in thewoods or something, and so I told
him, I said, listen,next time you want to show up,
don't do it in human form.Because then that confused me and threw me
off, and I didn't know whatthe fuck was happening. So like,
I called the cops on him,and then I felt like an idiot for
like weeks. I was like,Oh my god, who even does that?
Oh my god? But you know, that story is actually important because
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it it is. It goes toshow that, like, no matter how
trained or good you are at theseskills, there are moments where you still
question your sanity when you're going throughthe spiritual awakening and you're coming to your
senses about psychic abilities. And that'simportant for people to know because a lot
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of times they'll go through things andthey'll be like, I don't know,
it makes me feel like I'm crazy. Yeah, it fucking does, because
you're walking between the worlds and there'sshit going on that like defies all the
odds, right, And so Ijust need everybody to know that this happens
to everyone. When you're going throughthat. Cops were go to that crazy
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ass woman's house. She sees people. No, it's such a great story,
like it I laugh about it withmy friends all the time, and
I've talked talked about it on Facebooklives in full like in full detail and
told the whole story. But itis, Yeah, it's it's definitely a
fun, fun, fun experience forsure. So there are different types of
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mediums of her. Do you givereadings for people. Is that something you
do. Yeah, So I'm actuallya psychic medium and a life coach,
and so as a life coach,I specialize in grief, trauma, and
toxic relationship recovery. So those arethe things I'm really passionate about. Grief
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was is probably my baby because Ialso have a child that has passed on,
and so that is my specialty.And then as a psychic medium,
yes, I do also offer readings. Okay, I'm very sorry about your
loss. Well I appreciate that,but again that's it kind of goes hand
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to hand in hand with what Ido now. Yeah, yeah, So
we were talking a little bit andhow I got introduced to you was through
your bigfoot stuff. Yeah. DoctorLisa Thompson came on. She did on
the show a couple of times,and she has an interest in bigfoot and
we've talked about it a little bit. Can you talk about your connection with
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Bigfoot, what experiences you've had,and just your connection with the Yeah.
So Lisa, man, she's mygirl. Love me some Lisa, she
is. She's wonderful. So LisaI got connected to in the last couple
of years, and obviously that wasno accident. So you're asking about my
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Bigfoot experience, but you know,before Bigfoot happened, I have to tell
you there was dog men actually happenedbefore Bigfoot for me, and that's kind
of what led to Bigfoot for me. All Right, you want to start
with the dog man stuff, SoI'm gonna start with my first dog man
experience. I was five. Itwas five years old, and I was
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growing up in this little town calledJonestown, Jonestown, Texas, South Jonestown,
Texas and up in South Jones Townin the hills. I lived in
this house and it was I don'tknow, probably about half a mile to
the bus stop, and we backthen it was a lot of wooded you
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know, area that hadn't had allthe houses built on it that it has
now. And I was it wasreally early one morning. I just got
out the door and I was walkingup to the bus stop. I was
leaving my driveway to go walk upto the bus stop. And again I
was like headed off to kindergarten forthe day. So I was really little.
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And I make it to about theend of the driveway and I see
this big, huge black wolf stepout in front of me, and I
just stopped dead in my tracks andwas like, wow, he was so
big and he come right out ofthe woods, stopped dead in the middle
of the road, looked right atme. He was so much bigger than
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I was. He made eye contactwith me. I stood still, was
terrified. I was like, Okay, do I turn around and go back
inside or do I keep going?And I was scared because if I went
back inside, my mom would havebeat the fuck out of me, right,
like, oh, you're gonna missthe bus. I'm gonna kill you
for doing this whatever, right,So I had got my ass beat for
that. So it was like,okay, well, I'd rather take my
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chances with the wolf instead of goand get my butt beat by my mom,
right. So that's kind of whereI was, so like, there's
that. So I was like,yeah, I'm gonna just stand right here
and just not move. Maybe hewon't bother me. And so he sat
there gracefully for a minute, madeeye contact. I remember thinking, holy
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crap, that's actually a wolf,and like I kept hearing wolf in my
head over and over, so Iknew he was telling me he was a
wolf. And after a minute,he just continued to cross the road.
Into the other side of the woods, and I gave him a couple minutes
before I moved. I was like, I'm gonna let him get up in
the woods a little bit before beforeI crossed that path again. So I
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was, uh, yeah, Iwas scared. So I went on about
my day. I gave him alittle time and then went ahead and went
up to the bus stop and wentabout my day. And when I got
home, I was telling my momthat I saw this big wolf in the
road and oh, I can't tellyou how wolves are in Texas, and
oh what an imagination this child has, and blah blah blah, all the
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fucking stuff. So that was myvery first document experience, and I think
what I had discovered what it was. It's called a Cane nine variant one.
So that's where they're actually like inyou know, wolf form. Okay,
so this one was on Off Wars, on All Wars. Yeah,
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he was solid black. And sojust for just for the record, I
ended up working in the vet fieldfor many years in my life, and
I am well aware of the differencebetween a wolf and a domesticated animals,
just so you all know. Andso besides all that, it's not like
I need the validation anyway. Iknow when my guides tell me something,
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I know what it is, right, So it's like I had the inner
authority of knowing what that was.And so, yeah, he was just
a big, solid black wolf.Yeah. And you know, the very
first dog man story I ever tookwhen I started doing this, a guy
talked about seeing one that never stoodup on two legs. It was only
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on all boards, but it wasrunning with a pack of coyotes, and
it was like a completely different colorand like three times the size. Yeah,
bac was up over the hood ofhis truck and he had a raised
up truck. And that's just notnormal. It's not it's not And I
definitely know like in Texas, wedefinitely don't have wolves here. And this
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guy stood out like a sore thumb, like he was huge and solid black.
I mean, there's there's just noway stay tuned for more paranormal odyssey.
So no, So that was thefirst one after that when I was
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about fourteen, and this is kindof what led to the bigfoot stuff.
I was fourteen and at this pointI was living in Lago Vista, Texas,
and I lived out by the water, so I was out. I
was probably about a block from thewater, and we lived right up on
like a cove in the lake andagain out in the woods. All my
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friends were raccoons and skunks and allthe cool stuff. Right like, I
was like just out there, andyou know, it was it was a
late night. I remember it waslike two in the morning, and I
was like, I'm going to gofor a walk because I lived down in
the middle of where, so itwas safe to do those things back then,
right, you can just go outwalking around. It didn't matter.
Nobody was there, and I decidedto go walk around. It was late,
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and you know, like like Isaid, it was like two in
the morning something like that. Itcould have been midnight. I don't know.
It was really late and I wasa bored teenager and I went out
exploring the night, and I rememberI kept being followed and I could tell.
I could tell I was being watched. I could tell I was being
observed and studied, and I wasn'tafraid, but the feeling got stronger and
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stronger, and I remember asking myguide. I was like, what is
that, Like, what is goingon? And they showed me a picture
in my mind of a were wolf, and I was like, what that
can't be real. There's no way, like seriously, that's a thing.
And so I remember having this likeconversation with my guides about like what is
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happening? And so then I rememberwe're thinking, okay, wait, so
does that mean? Like is amI getting this confused with like bigfoot?
Is bigfoot? Reel? Like itstarted this whole like thing, this cycle
in my mind, and like rightafter that I had a UFO experience and
all kinds of other stuff like itkind of blew apart my mind, if
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that makes sense. Yeah, well, so you say a werewolf or would
you say dog man? So Iwould say it's a dog man. But
because I was fourteen and I didn'thave any reference of what that was,
they showed me a vision of awerewolf in like a movie, right,
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So like here's they had to usea reference system that I had at fourteen,
and at that point all I'd seenwas maybe a werewolf movie where I
could have any sort of you know, identifiable way to figure out what this
was. Yeah, what what happensnext? Where do you go from here?
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Yeah? So after that, itkind of just like I think it
just kind of like was an invitationright for more seeking, because I was
like, wait, I'm asking thequestions, what there's this? And now
does that mean bigfoots a thing?And like, oh my god, does
you know all these things? Andyou have to remember I've already seen dead
people and fairies and angels and allthis stuff, right, So like at
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this point, I'm not thinking thatthis isn't real because I could have easily
blown off all the other stuff tooif that was the case. Right,
So I'm thinking, Okay, cool, this is really a thing. So
I'm like seeking, I'm like,I got to understand this, like,
is what is happening? And soat that point, it wasn't very long
after that that I had moved toUtah. And when I was in Utah,
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I had I was fifteen years oldat that point. It was the
summer, oh I want to sayit was a summer of ninety four or
five, I think ninety five,so it was July, and I had
my first UFO experience as well,and so that just kept me sneaking more
and more, and then I endedup talking to my dad about Bigfoot that
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same year, all kinds of stuff, So it kind of just spiraled after
that. You know, I knowthat you not only are Feigm believer,
but you know that you've been toldthat Bigfoot and UFOs are connected. And
we were talking it's interesting because wejust did a live on this a couple
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of weeks ago on my other podcast. Could have used you then, but
I would like for you to talkabout that connection. But would it make
more sense to go into your bigfootstuff before we do that or how do
you know? I mean, it'sfine, we can do that. So
the connection, the connection is,so I have I had taken some time
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last year to really get closer tochanneling some galactic and Bigfoot information after after
trying to avoid it for a longtime, I was trying really hard to
not do that. I was tryingreally hard to like just dismiss it all
together. But you know, whenit's time, it's time. So so
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that that had happened, and Ihad learned from some from some channeling experiences
that Bigfoot is not from here.Bigfoot does not originate from this planet.
When I asked where Bigfoot was from, I felt crazy for a second because
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I was like, no way,that sounds so made up. But like
Bigfoot was like, they told methey're from a place called mald Deck,
and I was like, I justremember stopping and kind of like, Okay,
I feel like I'm making this upor this sounds like dungeons and dragons
are some weird shit, right,Like I had no idea what was happening,
but they said that they were fromall Deck. The planet got destroyed,
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which I guess now it's an asteroidbuilt between Jupiter and Mars. And
so when they when the planet wasdestroyed, the survivors were brought they were
transplants. They were brought here.Now they are also inter dimensional and their
connection to the Galactics, they kindof do scout work here. So what
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happens is because they're closer to ourthree D reality because Bigfoot's kind of between
four and five, they are ableto kind of do scout work here,
take samples of the Earth and theelements and kind of report that information,
if you will, back to thehigher galactics that help keep us safe.
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Wow. And for those of youthat are are watching this or that will
listen or watch it later that alsowatched the love that we did a couple
of weeks ago on that Big Bookpodcast, that's that's gonna sound familiar,
because that's exactly what I said thatthat doctor Lisa Thompson told us. And
I didn't ask April to verify that. I didn't ask her to say it.
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That's exactly what she came out with. And I mean, there are
multiple people claiming this, and thatis how that's how Lisa came to have
that information was because I channeled andI reached out to her and asked her,
Hey, does this sound familiar toyou? Do you know what the
fuck this is about? I'm like, I have no idea what's happening here.
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And so that's how we were ableto make our connection as well.
So so yeah, they kind ofdo scout work. They are fascinating.
They are fascinating. They're actually prettygentle. I well, I'm going to
say my experiences are gentle. Ican't vouch for everyone, but my experiences
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have been gentle. I even askedthe question. This is I asked the
question because I've had an experience witha bigfoot in twenty twenty and I remember
thinking, well, everybody talks abouthow you smell bad and all these things,
and I got to ask you,I need to know because like,
I don't smell yet, I don'tthink you smell bad, and I'm curious.
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I'm dying to know what this isthat people are talking about. And
the answer I got kind of blewmy mind. I was like, what,
no way? So Like, basically, because they're inner dimensional and they
can demateialize and warp through other dimensions, what happens is when they're warping,
there is a chemical reaction that happens, and that puts off a very strong
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odor. So I'm no scientist andI don't even have the verbiage for that
shit, but I can tell youwhen they told me that, everything in
me, I was like, yep, that's it. That makes sense.
That was it for me. Iwas like, Okay, got it understood,
and that makes sense. Why youdon't always smell it? That's exactly
right, you don't always smell it. I have never smelled that smell,
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but from what I've read or heardfrom other people, lots of other people
have. But it makes me wonderif they had, because they had either
just shown up or just got outthere or what happened and they're picking up
on the odor. Yeah, I'mon record saying that I believe I've had
quite a few experiences with big butonly one possible sighting. But I'm very
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confident saying that I've been in thearea a bigfoot before. And that's one
of the few things that people thathave witnessed as watch claim that I haven't
experienced with the couple is the smell. I've never smelled it either. I
haven't either ever, not ever recentlike very recently. I had never had
anything thrown at me either, andI think that I have now. Okay,
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I've not had that experience. Okay, so yeah, that makes perfect
sense. But I've always thought thatthe smell, the reason that it comes
and goes is it could be likea defense mechanism, like a skunk maybe.
Yeah, yeah, that's just theanswer. They gave me. It
was very direct and like, here'swhat it is, and they showed me
a picture of it, and Iwas like, oh, damn, okay,
that makes sense. I would haveAnd that's how you know I'm not
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making up this information too, becausethere's no way I'm creative enough to fucking
think of that shit Like I'm cool. That cool. So I'm like mm
hmm, yeah, I'm not thatawesome. Yeah, well, you talked
about having some experiences with them,so you want to share something, Yeah,
So I had In twenty twenty,I was staying at this at this
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property and there was a house onthe property and they had an r D
on the property, and the propertyitself was like four or five acres,
and all the property out there,all the people, all the owners out
there had properties that were like bigacreage, you know, five twenty acres
whatever it was. So we wereall really spread out from each other,
super private, super spread out.And the owners of the house were never
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there. They actually lived in Austinand only came to the house, you
know, briefly on the weekends orevery other weekend. So I was staying
there on the property and the RVwas like maye thirty forty feet from the
house. So it's a Friday.It's August seventh of twenty twenty, and
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the Lionsgate Portal is Saturday the eighthfor the next day, and there was
all kinds of energy is going on, and I was outside chilling and I
was just kind of doing, youknow, watching the sky, being in
tune with everything around me, andall of a sudden, I had a
visitor and I was like, oh, that is a big energy. Holy
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crap, that is bigfoot. Icould tell right away. I was like,
this is bigfoot. It's got tobe like I could I could see
it in my mind. I couldfeel the energy kind of watching me and
hanging out with me, and uh. I remember before I went to bed,
I was like cool. I waslike, so, if you're a
bigfoot, then I need some undeniablekick ass sign. You're gonna have to
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leave me something cool that. Sojust to kind of confirm that that I'm
not fucking crazy, right, andI'm not making this shit up, because
sometimes I need that validation still,right, that's my human self and so
I need some understanding of my ownability sometimes and that's okay. So I
was asking for this undeniable proof,right, and and so a day or
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two had gone by, and Ithink it was Monday. I think it
was Monday morning, and it wasso windy out there, like it was
like super whippy winds. It wasridiculous and annoying because my hair was all
on my face and that shit pissesme off, right, So I was
like, oh, this is soannoying. But I had some errands to
run. So I was like,cool, I'm gonna go throw some laundry
in at the house. And there'slike this portable washer machine on the porch,
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and so I would go over andI'm again, I'm the only one
there, and I throw my laundryinto this little portable washer, and I'm
like, cool, I'm gonna hopin my cargo, run these errands and
get back. So I go runthese errands, get back, put my
stuff up, and I'm like,okay, gotta walk over to the porch,
get my clothes out and hang them. So I walk over to the
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porch and right when I get readyto step on the step, I see
this perfectly hand woven grass crown layingright and if I had not stepped right
there in that moment, it wouldhave blown away because it was so windy,
and not only was it so,it was so fragile that it would
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blown apart. And so I waslike, oh my god. And so
I grabbed it and scooped it upreally quick as fast as I could,
and I was like, oh,this is definitely undeniable. And it was
like totally hand woven, hand handnodded in these perfect little spots, and
I went inside, I laid iton a box and I took a picture
of it, and I actually sentthat picture to you Wayne and in our
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messenger, and so that was myfirst like okay, that was kind of
like a really big key moment forme, like cool homeboy left me at
present And so, I mean,not a lot of people can you know,
get a present from Bigfoot, ButI was pretty pretty happy about that.
Yeah, I've never gotten a presentfrom him. I wish they would.
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Yeah, I wish there was away for me to drop that picture.
And I don't you said you sentit to me. I don't remember.
Yeah, let me see where itis. Let me look up.
If you can send it to me, I'll get it up while you're sharing
your not Yeah, yeah, no, I sent it to you. It
was. It's on top of aYeah, there it is. It's on
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top of a chewy box. Doyou see it like a blue box?
If you go up to what daywas this? Also, if you can
post the pictures that I sent ofthe canine variant one in three Oh yeah,
a crown thing. Yeah, yousee it, freaking perfectly hand and
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woven thing. It's crazy. I'llget that put up and uh, and
what else did you say? Theother one was I had pulled up some
pictures of the canon variant one thatI saw when I was five, So
right above the crown, like acouple of pictures up from that. Okay
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that okay, Yeah, yeah,I've shared that one before, but I'll
do it again to you. Yeah, just so they can see. Yeah,
that's fine, Okay, I'll workon getting those. But on if
you want to go into your nextencounters. Yeah, so where do you
want me to go from here?Do you want me to talk about some
of the UFO encounters or like theI saw the reptilian guy, was that
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all of the big pitt stuff.Yeah, that's I mean, that's pretty
much all I want to talk aboutas far as that goes right now and
then and then I'm happy to sharetalk about just jump right in. Yeah.
So when I was fifteen, I'llgo back and kind of talk about
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my first UFO experience. When Iwas fifteen and I was in Utah.
I was with a friend that wehad, uh we'd gone to high school
together up there, and it wasagain the summer July of ninety five,
I believe, and so he wastaking me home and it was late.
It was like I guess it wasprobably about ten o'clock and we pulled up
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in my driveway and I was standingin front of the car and he was
laying on the hood of the carand I was facing him, just kind
of chatting, like talking to him, and he was not paying attention.
And I was like, oh mygod, you're not even listening to me,
and he was like, I know, I'm sorry, I can't.
I'm not listening because like there's somethingweird. Turn around and look at the
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sky, and so I remember Iturned around and both of us had the
same like it was the craziest thing, Like both of us could see this
UFO hovering and it was it wasn'tit wasn't too far away, but it
was it was close enough that ifit was gonna make any noise we would
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have heard it, like if itwas like an airplane or a helicopter or
anything like that. There was nonoise. It was completely silent, and
it was a straight line of likefive lights in a row, and as
it moved, the back light wouldgo to the front like it was rotating.
So it just kind of like theI don't know if you can picture
like the back light going to thefront as it rotates, because it was
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that's kind of how it moved.So it moved really slow across for a
while, and then it came backin the same pattern. And then I
mean, I think it had beenlike an hour or so that we'd been
watching it, and then all ofa sudden, it turned it. It
was just gone, and then itwas one big light and then it was
gone, completely gone, just outof nowhere. It was just just disappeared.
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And we were both like, holyshit, what the heck just happened?
And I was so scared because myparents weren't home. I was like,
oh my god, I'm not goingto sleep all night long. I
am scared to death. And sothis this whole thing. So that kind
of opened up, you know,some more seeking for both of us as
well. And then since then I'dhad other experiences as well. But so
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I want to say in twenty sixteen, it was this the winter of twenty
sixteen, again, I was inUtah, I was in Santa quent At
this point, I saw a hecalled himself a draco. He was a
draco reptilian male. I saw himin the backyard of my daughter's house.
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So I had gone to pick herup. She was waiting for me.
She was young at the time,she was like fifteen, and she was
like, Hey, I'm waiting foryour mom. I'm here alone, so
I'm just gonna wait wait till youget here. And I was like,
okay, that's fine. So Iwas on my way to go pick her
up, and I pulled in thedriveway and my headlights kind of just shone
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in a straight path into the backyard. It was really really dark. Stay
tuned for more paranormal odysty. Iremember walking up to the side door,
and on the side door, Icould see where my headlights were shining in
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the backyard, and I could seemy daughter through the door, and so
I could see the light on throughthe door. So I'm knocking on the
door, waiting for her to comeopen it, and at that same time
I turned my head. Something mademe turn my head, and when I
turned my head, I see thisalien face basically floating in the backyard,
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and I was like, Oh mygod, why is there a fucking floating
head? What is happening? Sohe wasn't actually floating, it just looked
like he was floating because he didn'tshow me the rest of his body.
I just saw his face and soit just looked like this weird floating head
and I was like, okay,that is bizarre. So I stood there.
He and I both made eye contact. He looked right at me,
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and I was like, cool,I see you. And then my daughter
was coming to open the door,and I was like okay. In that
split second, I was like,I can't tell her what just happened because
she will be so scared and neversleep here again. So I had to
like compose myself and be like,oh hey, miss, like how are
you. Let's go, Let's timeto go, Let's get in the car,
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let's hop, let's go right.So, like I was just trying
really hard to like do the dothe nurturing mom thing and not freak her
out. But but his face wasred and yellow. It was leathery.
It was like leathery reptilian skin,that's the only way I know how to
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explain it. And red and yellowin color, like it wasn't like ours.
His eyes were very different. Andwhen I asked why he didn't show
his body, he said because itwould have traumatized me. So I took
his word for it. I waslike, all right, cool, good
thing you didn't thanks that was thatwas interesting enough? So yeah, yeah,
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his his skin was red and yellow, like red red and yellow was
very different. His eyes were dark, His eyes were pretty dark in color.
But his skin, yeah, hisface was red and yellow. Now,
when you say reptilian skin, youmean like snake skin kind of yeah,
well no, it was more likelizard skin. It was like really
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bumpy and like even though he wasn'tlike right in front of me, I
could still see like enough detail becausethe headlights were like right on his face.
He stepped from the dark. Hestepped literally from the dark right into
the headlights kind of like it's it'slike he almost he like just did this
certain path that only exposed his faceand not his body. But also it
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was like I felt like it waslike this unspoken like rule because I because
I am a medium, like Ihave I have to show myself to you.
And it felt very like like almostlike he had to do this thing.
And I was like, cool,I see you, you see me,
Cool, do your thing whatever,Like I don't have anything else to
ask because for me, it's like, okay, you're doing your thing and
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I'm doing mine and I don't reallycare, right, Like, does that
make sense? Yeah? Yeah,yeah, So it was interesting to see
to see his face like, I'llnever forget it, like it was.
It was pretty cool. I betbet you'll never forget it. I've got
those pictures brought up so h orloaded. I'm gonna pull up the the
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innerwoven gift that you got. That'spretty yeah, yeah, yeah, so
yeah, if he had, ifI had not stepped in that spot at
that very moment, that thing wouldhave been blown away and blown to pieces
because it was so delicate, delicatelyhand woven. Yeah, I mean that
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doesn't happen accidentally. No, ofcourse it doesn't. And there was nobody
there to come like make sure itsat on my porch and that one spot
until like that one second that Istepped up, Like you you couldn't do
that. You can pull that off. It's really cool looking. How big?
Like how big is that? Wouldyou say? I had to hold
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my two hands under it, okayto make sure it didn't you know,
it was fully supported and didn't fallapart. So it's like a crown,
would you say it was? It'sliterally a crown. It's literally a grass
crown. Okay, that's really cool. We got these these dog man pictures.
I've shared this image before, butyou said it was that Which one?
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Did you say? The very thevariant, the canine variant one.
That one right in the middle wasthe one I saw when I was five.
The variant three at the top isthe pick. Sure. I got
in my in my uh in myfourteen year old experience when I was like,
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what is following me? And theyshowed me this picture and I was
like, damn, Okay, ButI wasn't afraid because I knew that I
knew how protected I was, andI knew that I was just being studied,
like I wasn't. It's not likeI was threatened or in a position
to be hurt. I was beingstudied. I was being monitored. So
let me ask you. I've justI've just been quiet. I've just been
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absorbing all this information. Is thiswhy people will encounter the dog man but
not get attacked by him, becausethey're not there to intentionally hurt you.
They're just studying you. I thinkmost of the time that's the case.
Even with big Foot. I thinkmost of the time it's it's more of
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they really don't want anything to dowith us, to be honest, like
they're doing their thing, we're doingours, and sometimes our paths cross,
and that's that's. It's really justthey're they're being educated just like we are.
Do you know what it is they'retrying to learn from us or study
from us? I don't. Idon't necessarily know that they're trying to learn
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something specific. I think it's moreof observing our habits so they can protect
their own self. M okay,we've actually got a couple of questions here
from the audience. Let me getwell, Ristoles should be pretty short,
so we'll do his first. Hewanted to know if the crown fit,
if it fit on top of yourhead. Oh, I didn't even I
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don't. I couldn't even tell you. I didn't even try it on.
I was it was too delicate andtoo beautiful, and so I just placed
it on that box and took apicture. Carson is wanting to know,
and I believe he is. Letme get it back. I believe he's
talking about the Reptilian guy. They'rered and yellow. Yeah, uh yeah,
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that's what he That's when he drewthat question out there? Why was
he there? Yeah, that's yourquestions? Is good? I mean it's
good, it's good as any it'sI don't I couldn't tell you that either.
I've never once asked, so I'venever cared for me. It's like
this if you if you were goingoutside and you see some some stranger jogging
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down your road and you're like,I've never seen that guy before. You're
not going to run up to himand be like, what the fuck are
you doing here? What's your name? Where'd you come from? I don't
give a fuck what he's doing.Like, I'm just like, he's doing
his thing, I'm doing mine.So it never really occurred to me to
ask, To be honest, I'mjust like, coold, do you thing
whatever? Okay, So where werewe we? Uh? Where were we
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at before we asked you the questions? You were uploading pictures and I just
talked about his red and yellow face. That's where we were at, okay,
and you okay, so what whathappens next that? Do you have
any more encounters with anything that wewould consider cryptids or aliens? Oh?
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Yeah, yeah, I've definitely hadlots of encounters. So let me think,
let me think which might fall intothat category. I definitely have other
galactic experiences. I'm trying to think, which one. Do you think you've
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ever been abducted? And I knowLisa hates that word, Yeah she does,
so yes, I Well, here'sthe thing. I don't consider it
abduction because I'm happy to get thefuck out of here. I'm like,
cool, get me off this planet. I don't need any excuses like so
for me, it's more like they'redoing me a favor. And uh and
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I and I also, again that'sa situation that I feel very protected in.
But that is something I still encounter. I don't encounter it as often
right now, but there's been plentyof times that I have woken up with
marks on my body and in placesthat there's no way I could have done
it to myself. And I've hadI've woken up with bloody mouths and pieces
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of paper in my mouth and allkinds of weird stuff. So like,
it's I definitely know that I'm stillgoing through those experiences, but they don't
they don't bother me. It's somethingthat I agree to. Do you have
any memory of like being on aship, because at least I heard this
story that was amazing. Yes,so I do have, but they they
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they seem to be more masked aslike dreams for me. So I'll I'll
go and then I'll have dreams ofthe ships and things I'm doing, even
some of my galactic family members,and then I'll wake up and I'll be
so sad that I'm here again.I'm like, uh, backing, dishit
hole, like I just like heartbrokenthat I'm back on this planet and get
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on like this sucks. Oh mygod. Yeah, nay, I'm a
comment in here. I think it'sa cool comment that in the Barney and
Betty Hill case, Barney was farmore upset by the abduction than Betty was.
In fact, she remembered it morefavorably. I wonder if that's a
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male female thing. Hmm. Idon't know. I don't know. Well,
we are, we're here at thehour uh April. Tell everybody where
they can find you, anybody thatmight want a reading, or or if
you have any website or any channels. I just send those links to do
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you have those available? I do, and I'll put those in the show
notes. But if you want totell people yeah, so you can find
me on Facebook at April de miland I think my oh, I don't
even know. I think it's ExordiumHealings is what I have at listed,
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and you know that's really bad information. I think you're gonna have to wait
for links because I couldn't tell you. I don't know. Okay, yeah,
you sent me all the links,and when I post this to podcasts,
I will include all of those,so everybody just be a click away
from getting to you. Sounds good. Thank you all right again, ma'am,
(51:44):
let me thank you for taking thetime to come and hang out.
What's the wee they've been like inTexas today? It was like I think
we talpked out at like fifty ninedegrees today. It's pretty nice, pretty
nice. I like it. Okay, we always talk the weather because I'm
in Tennessee. Tiffany's in Virginia andshe cries about the cold. I love
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the cold. I don't. Idon't think we get enough cold and I
cannot stand the brutal heats in summer'shere. Like I'm not a true Texan
at all, Like like what section? You don't to tell me your address
or anything? But like what partof Texas are you in? So we're
we're close to Austin. We're inthe Austin area. I think it's hard
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as hell, don't it. Itgets freaking ridiculous, It's so bad.
Yeah, love, what's what's theaverage summertime? Ten? Like one hundred
and eight? Oh Jesus, Yeah, it gets pretty stupid during July and
August. It's it's awful. See, I don't know if I could do
that kind of heat. I knowhere when it's like ninety eight. Since
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I've gotten older, I struggle,but still with I mean, seventy five
is good for me. Yeah,Like I'm good with like fifty, Like
fifties and sixties are like kind ofperfect for me. Yeah, how did
Lisa? Lisa's got it made.She's out there in Hawaii on the I
know she's always got like seventy degreeseventy degree weather, But you know here
it's so dang humid too, solike one hundred eight, it feels like
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one hundred and like twenty sometimes,Like it's just awful because you're like dripping
wet. Everything's sticky and muggy,and it's it's gross here in Tennessee.
I mean, we stay in thehigh nineties, will hit the low hundred
sometimes, but it feels like onehundred and twenty. You can't step outside,
there's like there's no air moving.Yeah, where you can watch the
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sweat just form on your body.It's disgusting. Yeah, no, not
fun. All right, Well again, let me thank you for taking the
time to come and hang out.And I hope you enjoyed the rest of
your night. Okay man, Yeah, you too, Thank you so much.
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It was an absolute pleasure to gethis comes space time with you guys,
so thank you for that. Thankyou. We appreciate it. Have
a good night, you too.Bye bye. They say you don't gotta
go home, but you can't stay. No, I don't want to feel
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we're all happen trying to try thatchid. Everything came right back, right
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