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in every issue. I'm Darren Marler, and this is Paranormality Magazine. G

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Kincaid was a professional explorer and hunter. He's often cited online as being the
first white baby born in Idaho,although there doesn't seem to be any confirmation
on this. His career and explorationwas well recognized, however, and he'd
been in the employee of the SmithsonianInstitute for nearly thirty years by the time
of this expedition, collecting and sendingin samples and artifacts throughout the US.

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He was on an expedition taking theColorado River through the Grand Canyon to its
southernmost points. At this point intime nineteen oh nine, he was only
the second person to attempt this journey, and he had done quite well,
traversing several dangerous rapids on his journey. When he reached a southern area of
the canyon, he was floating downthe river when he noticed a bizarre cave

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entrance. The cave looked different fromone that he had seen before during his
journey. It seemed smoother in away that natural caves do not appear.
It looked as if it had beenbuilt by humans. This was particularly bizarre
as the cave was several thousand feetfrom both the bottom of the canyon and
the river, and from the topof the canyon as well. It was

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built in a fashion that it wascompletely undetectable when looking down from the top
of the canyon, and almost undetectablefrom the canyon floor save for a few
angles where it becomes visible. Intriguedby the cave, Kincaid pulled over his
raft and began the difficult process ofscaling the rocks to reach the cave.
He noted that there was no trailleading to the cave to be found,

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and that the path and the climbup were quite difficult. There was a
set of steps carved into the rockjust below the cave entrance, and Kincaid
believed that the cave must have beenbuilt at a time when the river was
flowing at that height. This meansit would have been constructed had several hundreds
of thousands of years in the past. He says. He followed the main

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corridor of the cave until he reacheda center area. From the center area,
there were several more large tunnels leadingoff in different directions, similar to
spokes on a wagon wheel. Betweenthese paths were a large number of rooms
that were quote about the size ofordinary living rooms of today, though some
are thirty by forty feet squarete Henoted that there are oval shaped passageways leading

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into these rooms and that the stonewalls were about three and a half feet
thick. He said that they wereso straight and smooth they could have been
laid out by an engineer. Butperhaps the strangest thing he saw was near
the entrance, he found a religiousidol that suggested a far off origin.

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Over one hundred feet from the entranceis the cross hall, several hundred feet
long, he said, in whichare found the idol, or image of
the people's Gund, sitting cross leggedwith a lotus flower or lily in each
hand. The cast of the faceis Oriental. The idol almost resembles Buddha,
though the scientists are not certain asto what religious worship it represents.

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Taking into consideration everything found thus far, it's possible that this worship most resembles
the ancient people of Tibet, hecontinued, saying. Surrounding this idol are
smaller images, some very beautiful inform, others crooked, necked and distorted
shapes, symbolical probably of good andevil. There are two large cacti with
protruding arms, one on each sideof the das on which the god squats.

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All this is carved out of hardrock, resembling marble. One might
notice the plural tense. This isbecause this account was written after he had
returned to the site from his initialvisits. This time he was accompanied by
a professor that the newspapers identified asas Jordan, and a team of other

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scientists. He also describes finding workspace. Inside this underground city, he found
implants of copper and gold, avariety of ornate pottery, a storehouse for
grain and seed, a large amountof Katsi crystals, and even a strange
platinum like metal that they could notidentify. They went on to another room

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to discover it filled with decorative urns, and later a room filled with mummies.
He noted that all the mummies inthis section appeared to have been adult
males, and that they were gravesmarked by tablets written in a kind of
hieroglyph that they said resembled similar onesfound elsewhere in southern Arizona. Unlike those
glyphs, however, these were saidto only contain a few images of animals,

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one of which was described as lookingprehistoric. If that wasn't enough,
the suspicious and bizarre account ends witha bizarre and possibly paranormal claim quote,
One thing I've not spoken of maybe of interest. There is one chamber
of the passageway which is not ventilated, and when we approached it, a
deadly snaky smell struck us. Ourlight would not penetrate the room, and

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until stronger ones are available, wewill not know what the chamber contains some
say snakes, but others think itmay contain a deadly gas or chemicals used
by the ancients. No sounds areheard, but it smells snaky just the
same. The whole underground installation givesone of shaky nerves, the creeps,
The gloomy feeling is like a weighton one's shoulders, and our flashlights and

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candles only make the darkness blacker.Imagination can revel in conjectures and on godly
daydreams back through the ages that haveelapsed, till the mind reels dizzily in
space. This somewhat confusing paragraph seemsto be one of the lynch pins into
the crazier aspects of the hollow Earththeories. Many posters on the Internet today

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comment on this paragraph, claiming itis evidence of a reptile controlled underworld,
putting much emphasis on the snaky description. In fact, wherever this story seems
to be posted, there seems tobe people in the comments section claiming to
have life and death battles with reptilecreatures under the ground. Perhaps this is

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one of the reasons the story isn'ttaken very seriously by many investigators. I
also struggled with this story. Whetheror not to include it was the subject
of much debate. In my mind, its main proponent is an investigator named
David Childress, who, to putit lightly, has a mixed reputation.
As stated before, I'm not tryingto present any story that is presented as

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fiction or is so dubious in naturethat it is an obvious fake. For
many, the story falls in thelatter category. I found scores of articles
online dismissing the story as a hoax, but I've found most of this stemmed
from one ill informed email. Nearlyone hundred years after the story was first

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published. A journalist followed up bysending an email to the Smithsonian to see
if they could con this story.The email said that they could find no
reference to the people mentioned in thestory in their archives. This was either
a lie, a simple mistake,or a half truth. They indeed had
no record of a professor as Jordanor a GE Kincaid. However, there

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was a DS Jordan who later wenton to be the first president of Stanford
University, and he had worked closelywith A. L. Kincaid during the
time period described. Both were inthe employee of the Smithsonian for many years
and conducted several expeditions together. Theemail interaction was in the early two thousands,

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so it was quite possible that thisperson simply missed the records in what
has to be a massive physical paperarchive. Either way, it has led
to the belief that the story hasbeen intentionally suppressed. I am more of
the belief that it was accidentally suppressedas a result of a few newspaper typos.
Some more serious academics now believe thatthe story was indeed true as well,

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and that the location was simply inaccurate. Whatever the truth, this is
one of the earliest examples in thisregion of a human presence that is said
to be hidden beneath the earth.Cursed objects, The concept is fascinating.

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There are movies about cursed objects andentire museums dedicated to cursed objects. I
imagine that when you hear the wordscursed object, you picture a doll,
a wooden box, a wedding dress, or a painting. Your imagined cursed
object is dark and mysterious. Possiblyit has eyes that you look into and

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legs that may carry it to youwhile you sleep, Or maybe it holds
a ghost or demon inside, waitingto be released and terrorize you in your
family. Did you picture a setof children's bunk beds when picturing cursed objects?
If you followed the story of thehaunted Tallman House in Wisconsin, I'm
sure that was the first object thatcame to mind. Billy White from Paranormality

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Magazine brings us the story. Manycursed object stories involve old objects that have
been passed down or found in antiquestores. I confess I once owned a
man's prosthetic leg that was promised tobe cursed. Granted, I never witnessed
any paranormal activity around that prosthetic leg, but if any object would be cursed,

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you would assume it was an oldprosthetic leg. I don't think many
of us worry about our secondhand bargainfurniture finds being cursed objects. Perhaps the
Tallman family should have given more considerationto this. In nineteen eighty seven,
Alan and Debbie Tallman, along withtheir three young children, two girls and
one boy, moved to a newhome in the rural town and of horr

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Con, Wisconsin. On April thirteenth, nineteen eighty six. Alan would be
working in the area as a shiftsupervisor at a manufacturing plant, so he
would often be working late at nightor even until the early hours of the
morning, leaving Debbie at home withthe children. According to Allan and Debbie,
their home was a dream and theyhad absolutely no problems until February nineteen

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eighty seven, when everything changed dramatically. In February of nineteen eighty seven,
Debbie and Alan did what many ofus parents do. They found a bargain.
They purchased a bunk bed from aused furniture store. Seems harmless and
simple, right Personally, I've purchasedmany bed frames, couches, dining sets,

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et cetera from second hand and consignmentstores. It has never once crossed
my mind that I could be bringinghome some sort of negative, paranormal entity.
I'm sure that when the Toallmans purchasedtheir bunk beds, they did not
imagine that they were going to beentering a nine month period of terror for
their entire family. When Alan broughtthe bunk bed home, he initially set

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it up in the basement, whichmeans it was not placed in a child's
room in the beginning. According tothe Tallmans, prior to bringing this bunk
bed home, their children were neversick. However, once the bunk bed
entered their home, even in thebasement, the children were sick nearly constantly.
Debbie was taking the children to thefamily physician many times a week,

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and sometimes she was even having totake all three children to the doctor at
the same time for various illnesses.While the Tallmans never explained why the bunk
bed sat in the basement for multiplemonths, they reported that they brought it
upstairs. Their son slept in theroom next to the bunk bed set.
According to their young son, thefirst night having the bunk bed upstairs,

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his clock radio began turning itself onand changing stations randomly. When this happened,
their young sud fled to Debbie andAlan, who were in their living
room. The sun reported that hewas even able to see the dial moving
on its own. Like many parents, they attributed this to an overactive imagination
or, worst case scenario, malfunctioningelectronics. They certainly did not think that

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there could be a paranormal entity.The Tallmans were not superstitious people and did
not particularly believe in the paranormal atthis point. It actually took them a
while to suspect that the problems thatthey were experiencing might be supernatural in origin.
Alan first began suspecting that there wassomething strange happening in their home a

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few weeks after the radio incident,when he was painting in the basement.
He later stated that Debbie called himupstairs to take a break. When he
came back down to the basement tocontinue his work, he found that his
paint brush had been dipped handled firstinto his paint. He knew that there
was no way he had done thishimself, but he decided to not tell

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anyone about the incident because he stillbelieved that there had to be a natural
explanation. Debbie and Allen's two yearold daughter was sleeping in the bunk bed,
and she began telling her parents thatthere was a woman with red eyes
who would appear in her room lateat night and start a fire in her
room before disappearing. Coming from achild, the Tallmans still firmly believed that

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this story had to be imaginary.I believe this is one of the reasons
that the Tallmans story is so relatable. Throughout the beginning of their experience,
every aspect of the story is extremelyrelatable, from the purchase of a secondhand
large furniture item to dismissing the occurrencesat their home until they got too blatant

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to be ignored. The Tallmans beganto believe that these incidents might be more
than just the imagination of their childrenor strange happenings. When their son woke
up screaming in the middle of thenight, also claiming to see the woman
in his room. He claimed thatwhen he saw her, she was glowing
completely read as if she were onfire. Debbie and Allen had never told

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their son about the woman that theirdaughter was saying that she saw in her
room. To them, it wastoo much of a coincidence. It was
at this point that the Tallmans calledtheir personal pastor to visit their home and
give his spiritual advice. Their pastorreported that he could feel a demonic presence.
He asked the Tallmans to increase theirchurch attendants to combat the evil entities

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in their home. However, theTallmans later believed that these actions only made
the spirits in their home angrier,as after they took this action, they
began hearing more voices throughout the home. Doors were banging the children reported seeing
the woman more often, and theradio was once again being controlled by some

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unforeseen force. Allan eventually reached hisbreaking point when he demanded that whatever was
in the home leave his children aloneand attack him instead. After he made
this demand, he claimed that heheard a voice from the garage say come
here. He went to look inthe garage, but all he saw was

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the glow of a fire with redeyes in the garage door windows. Alan
began sleeping on the floor of hisdaughter's room to offer them comfort and help
them sleep. One evening, whilesleeping on the floor, he saw a
fog rise out of the floor inhis daughter's bedroom and he heard a voice
telling him you're dead. One night, Alan realized that he would not be

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able to make it home until theearly hours of the morning. He knew
that he wouldn't be able to makeit home to comfort and protect his family,
so he invited a skeptic relative tospend the night and sleep in his
daughter's room. Prior to spending thenight in the home, the relative stated
that he did not believe in anyof the stories or the hauntings, but
that night he claimed that he sawthe burning woman and left the home,

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swearing he would never return. Thiswas the final straw for Debbi. The
family fled the house in the nightwith the plan to sell and not return.
Two weeks after this incident, theTallmans had the bunk beds destroyed in
a local landfill. Rumors of thehouse grew throughout the small town. As

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rumors do, they quickly grew outof control. People in the area were
claiming that the walls of the housewere running with blood, along with other
outlandish stories. The sheriff in thearea soon had to deal with paranormal investigators
along with many people who were threateningto burn the house down. The story
eventually caught the attention of the producersfor Unsolved Mysteries. The Tallmanhome and the

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bunk beds were included in the firstseason of Unsolved Mysteries. However, by
that time the house had already beensold and the bunk beds disposed of.
Both the new owners and the filmingcrew reported absolutely no paranormal experiences in the
home. The Tallman Home was eventuallyinvestigated by the Committee for the Scientific Investigation

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of the Paranormal. The committee didnot believe that anything paranormal had actually happened
in the home despite the terrifying experiencesfaced by the Tallman family. In fact,
the committee stated that they believed allof the events were actually hallucinations caused
by a gas leak. This hypothesisis actually supported by the Wisconsin Power and

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Light Company, who did have toreplace faulty gas fittings in several homes in
the area. Whether the experiences theTallmans faced were caused by cursed bunk beds,
ghosts in the home itself, ora gas leak, the Tallmans reported
that they never experienced any further paranormalactivity after leaving the home and disposing of
the bunk beds. Also, there'sbeen no other activity reported by any other

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owners of the residents. Whether thecursed bunk beds brought in a demonic entity
so it was removed when the bedswere disposed of, or there's a more
natural cause, the Tallmans and theirprevious residents remain peaceful and calm. Want

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seventeen seventy three, Captain Cook becamethe first modern explorer known to have breached
the Antarctic Circle and reached the icebarrier. He intended to sail completely around
Antarctica looking for inlets through the wallof ice, sailing a total of sixty
thousand miles along the Antarctic coastline.He never once found an inlet or path

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through or beyond the massive glacial wall. The ice extended east and west,
far beyond the reach of our site. While the southern half of the horizon
was illuminated by rays of light whichwere reflected from the ice to a considerable
height. Captain Cook, these arethe misguided and ill informed words of one

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J. Decasby the male model turnedflat Earth figurehead made waves back in twenty
nineteen when he claimed that he wasgoing to prove flat Earth was real once
and for all. To do this, he was going to go to Antarctica
and prove that the ice covered continentwas actually an ice wall that held in
all the oceans of our flat world. Here is his own words just how

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he planned to do this. Allwe have to do to shut this debate
down once and for all is toget the distance of the coast of Antarctica.
It had been done by early sailorswho managed to make sixty thousand miles,
which irrefutably proves the flat earth model. But like all the other mountains
of evidence for flat Earth, thisis not enough for ballers today. If

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we can get to the coast ofAntarctica and sail all the way around it,
we'll get the distance that will proveit's the the outer edges of flat
Earth and refute entirely every single argumentanyone can possibly try to pitch for the
sun worshiping cult of a Heliocentrism.They've made laws to not allow any kind
of motorized equipment on the ice,which would help us prove not only flat

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Earth, but what's beyond the icewall. But in reality, we don't
even need to get onto the iceto prove flat Earth. The coast of
Antarctica on the ball Earth is nomore than fourteen point five thousand miles.
On a flat Earth, it wouldbe over sixty thousand. We have evidence
of sixty thousand and none of fourteenpoint five. Jay to Caspy, the

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evidence he's referring to is the sameas his first quote, this supposed journey
of Cook around Antarctica. Cook wasindeed sent to the southern Arctic Circle to
see if there were lands beyond theice somewhere south of Australia. His journey
did take well over sixty thousand miles, but this is because he was not
tracing the perimeter of the continent.He was sailing for the most part just

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outside the Arctic Circle, and hewould often loop back to New Zealand for
supplies. While discovering several islands inthe Pacific. In fact, he only
crossed the Arctic Circle three times duringthe entire voyage, yet flat earthers use
this journey as a piece of lynchpinevidence. Despite this, Jay's plan was

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to take a cruise ship and recreatethis imagined journey around the ice, film
it, and turn it into aTV show that would surely show all those
globe heads once and for all.Unfortunately, it seems like this plan will
never come to fruition. Perhaps it'sbecause ships are required to use mapping and
navigation techniques based on the fact thatthe Earth is round, or perhaps because

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flat earthers don't have enough disposable incometo sponsor such a journey. Either way,
it seems the project has died andJay has shut down all his social
media pages, say for one pagefor his modeling career on a talent management
website. People have believed the Earthis flat for a long time, However,
not as long as Jade Casby wouldmake you think. The idea that

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most medieval people thought the Earth wasflat is a misconception. In fact,
the Greeks two thousand years ago usedmath to figure out the Earth was round.
Most learned people throughout history have beenexposed to the idea that the Earth
was round, and it was generallyaccepted the non learned people of the time
were much too busy to be concernedwith earth shape philosophy. Despite this,

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the conspiracy that the Earth is flathas taken a new fresh breath of life
and the wake of the Internet andhas surged in popularity. Most people have
at least heard of the modern dayflat earther, but popularity in the conspiracy
world is still not a huge accomplishment, and the notion that people really do
believe in it has been propelled bycertain celebrities in recent times. Do Tila

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Tequila and Bob still count as celebrities? In reality, there are many fans
of the theory, but a lotfewer who take it seriously. And that's
really a more accurate view of thistheory that most people completely miss. So
let's get into it. The secrethistory of the flat Earth the existence of
the modern flat earther are started inthe late eighteen hundreds. It was perpetrated

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mostly by one man, Samuel Robotham, known by his much cooler pen slash
stage name Parallax. He wrote apamphlet on zetetic astronomy, but was better
known for his lectures and debate skills. From eighteen fifty up until the time
of his death in eighteen eighty five, he would travel around the United Kingdom

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and hold lectures and debates on thesubject of the flat Earth. He was
reportedly an elegant speaker and was ableto remain level headed in even the most
heated debates. Hundreds of newspaper articlesalso attest to the fact that he would
seldom lose these debates. His reputationgrew and he was invited to speak at
town halls a universities across the nation, leaving many educated people questioning their held

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beliefs. The twist on this storyis that Samuel dropped out of school,
never finishing Elementary history remembers him asa fast talking charlatan, but everyone agrees
that he was extremely well versed inhis theory and an excellent speaker, willing
to debate anyone of an academic levelin the matter. He essentially made a
career out of poking holes in theacademic theory, and it was easy to

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do at the time. The basisof his argument, the Bedford level experiment
was equally probable at the time,like most other experiments that argued the Earth
was round. Today, with moderntechniques we can disprove the Bedford level experiments.
In nineteen fifty six, Parallax's ideaswere revived. The Flat Earth Society

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was founded by a man named SamuelShenton. Shenton read the Zetetic Astronomy,
which had evolved into a book overthe years when he was young, and
clung to the theory. Over theyears, he compiled pile of scientific evidence,
leaving the more religious bends of thetheory behind. Despite his controversial view,
he was elected as a fellow inboth the Royal Geographical Society and the

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Royal Astronomical Society, showing that hewas quite popular in academic circles. In
fact, famed astronomer Patrick Moore waseven a member of the society for a
time. Why did academics include himin their clubs and attend his seminars when
his ideas were so contrary. Whilethe answer lies in the dry sense of
British humor, humor might be misleadingbecause it wasn't entirely a joke. The

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British scientist of the era could appreciatethis thought that the standards of proof are
malleable. It provided them with alens to look at their own work with
extra scrutiny, and there's a goodamount of evidence that Shenton was in on
the joke. He often spoke atscience fiction conventions, and in fact the
body of most of his work wasretired to a science fiction society owned by

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a friend and a president of theFlat Earth Society, perhaps showing a sense
that he was aware that his workwas fictitious. Many people say he did
firmly believe the theory, but alot of his behavior and interactions might suggest
that this could have just been himplaying a character. In nineteen sixty three,
after astronaut John Glenn orbited around theEarth, the Flat Earth Society sent

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him a membership card with a notesaying, okay, wise guy, a
clear example of dry British wit.Whether or not it was a joke.
Shenton passed away, and the worksthat were not stored went on to the
possession of people who would use thetheory as proof of the validity of religious
doctrine. However, the value ofthe concept as a thought experiment continued.

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The Flat Earth Society was picked upin Canada by a trio of writers and
philosophers in nineteen seventy. This timearound, they were more outright with their
message, the Canadians not being ableto pull off the sly satire that the
Britz version did. They wanted peopleto realize that they were willing to accept
scientific theories without actually physically experiencing orseeing the evidence for themselves, and then

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they wanted to challenge that notion.The group even received funding for a movie
from the Ontario Council of Arts.The film was shown to school children as
a kind of mockumentary meant to promotethe idea of critical thinking and free thought.
It was also to show you canmake a convincing argument for anything if
you try hard enough, and sotaught skepticism of the media. The Flat

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Earth Society has also been claimed bythe Mysterious and Half Asked Secret Society of
the Discordians Hail Earis, as oneof their psyops against society as part of
their larger project, Operation mind bleepOm, the point of which is to
insert confusion and chaos into institutions deemedtoo powerful or organized. According to the

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Discordians, the Flat Earth Society wasset up to give membership to legislators or
citizens groups dedicated to preventing the disseminationof modernistic ideas and education. I've written
in depth about this concept on mywebsite, but enough history, we've lost
our main focus, the ice ballthat is Antarctica. The ice wall theory
is perpetuated by the idea that Antarcticais a forbidden land where average people are

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never allowed to visit. This isa myth and it's simply not true.
But proponents of the flat Earth havealways struggled with basic facts. But it
also stems from ancient illuminated biblical textswhich show the Earth as a flat disc
under a dome. This idea isstill popular today, as our Palja describes

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ever so eloquently, when we lookat Antarctica, if you take a globe
and you squish it down, theAntarctic would go all the way around the
Earth. It's kind of like anice shore, and it's very very large.
It's not like you just go thereand you can just peek over it.
We don't believe anything can fall offthe edge. Because a big portion
of the flat earth community believes thatwe're in a dome, like a snow

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globe, so the sun, moonand stars are all inside. It's very
high, but all contained inside,so there's no way to actually fall off
of the Earth. Those snow globestyle images have appeared often and in many
cultures, which fuels this belief inthe same weird way carvings do for ancient
aliens. They also like to pointto the symbol of the UN, which

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contains it as a muffle equidistant projectionmap where the north pole is the center
and the south is at the edgesof the circle. According to flat Earth
theorists, they used this projection astheir symbol because the UN knows the truth
about the real shape of the Earth. Though why they would spend so much
time and effort making us think theEarth is round just to admit it isn't

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through symbology in their logo has alwaysseemed a bit silly to me, something
about hiding in plain sight. Isuppose either way. Maps remain an important
and fun as respect of the theory, that is, if you're a person
like me who likes to look atmaps. Many inspired flat earthers have taken
it upon themselves to draw new mapsof the flat Earth. Many of them

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containing lands beyond Antarctica. In thesemaps, Antarctica is simply the inner circle
of the large target shaped map,which includes large ice walls. The further
out one goes in between these icewalls or continents, usually given fun names
for Egyptian mythology. These continents arethe flat earther's response to the hollow Earth

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theory. All of this and potentiallymore was going to be revealed by Jada
Caspi and his expedition team, butunfortunately he never made it, so I
guess I'll have to go myself.Thanks for listening to Paranormality Magazine. Get

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