October 27, 2025 • 30 mins
Jeannette Cieszykowski helps successful business owners get their personal life together so they can feel just as good outside of work as they do in it. She uses Feng Shui and life strategy tools to help her clients feel more clear, calm, and in control.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hello, Hello, Hello, thank you so much for joining me
here on Passioneer Magazine, the podcast Welcome to the show, Jennett.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Absolutely absolutely now I cannot wait to talk to you
about what you do, how you do it, and how
you inspire your client base. But I realized that there
may be some people listening or watching that are on
familiar with you and what you do. So first question is,
tell me a little bit about yourself. What makes you you?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
What makes me me? Well, my name's Jeanette Szakowski. As
you introed what makes me me? I was thinking about
this a little bit because I was listening to your podcast,
and I thought if she asked me this question, what
on earth will I say? And I to quote one
of my clients recently, she said, I have the unique
ability to validate people where they are and challenge them
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to act and dream bigger. What makes me me is
I have a deep, deep passion for helping people love
their life again and feel passion inspired about their life.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Because when we.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Love our life and we're acting in our best self,
that's when we change the world. So what makes me
me is this obsession with helping people become the best
version of themselves.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh. I love that answer, and it isn't. That's one
of the reasons why you're here, you know, because you
are a passionaire for your feeling and what you do
and what you bring to your client base. So I
love that speaking of your client base. In so many
areas of our lives we are familiar with, I want
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to have a connection mind, body, and spirit. We want
things to be aligned, we want things to be centered,
We want things to be the best possibly frequency type
things that we can possably have. Right, Like all of
these words that are going around in conversations lately, people
just want to make sure that things are perfect for
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their environment. How do you do that with your client base?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, it's interesting because we hear mind body, spirit connection
alignment a lot, and then it gets to a certain point.
At least I don't know if anybody else can relate
to this, but at least For me, I was so
obsessed with like Tony Robbins and reading all the personal
development books and learning all the things and yes, becoming
the best version of myself. And a certain point I
was like I kind of overdid it. I was like,
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am I being myself right?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Like?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Am I doing this right?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
And it was so cool when I discovered functue.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I have a master's in landscape architecture, which led me
to just original functue is about setting the landforms. Where's
the mountains, the water's the wind. And actually the first
form of it was burying your ancestors in a place
to bring ancestral luck. So now we people kind of
misconstrued it and think about it with clutter and all this,
but got the degree found func shue, and what I
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realized was like, oh, yes, my mind, body soul connection
and like you know, believing in God, believing in myself,
like that's really important. And the actions I'm taking, how
I'm showing up. But the environment supporting me to be
the best version of myself is also a major factory.
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Setting our environment up for success to propel us forward
rather than hold us back is a major thing. And
we don't really we live amongst our stuff. But I
bet you if you ask your audience, like, close your eyes,
walk in your front door, what's the first thing you
see there?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Either don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
What art they have on the wall, or they're like, oh,
I see clutter, I see a broken door, I see
my kids stuff everywhere, and that's in our way. Just
like we want to clear our mind and clear our thoughts,
we want to clear our space.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, you are. You are so right. And I
have to laugh there because I think that you would
even get various answers same household, depending on who you ask.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, true, you.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Know, wife, mom, she's gonna see all of the and
I hate to say the negative side, but she's going
to see all of the clutter, everything that's in disarray. Right,
dad or the husband is going to see the functional,
utilitarian things. What do you see when you walk in
the coat closet, the living room? You know, it is
amazing that the kids are like I just see like home,
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you know, or I see my favorite stuffed animal or
my pet or whatever. So I love that perspective about
where are you and how does that relate to how
you see your space and honor that space as well Oh,
I love that. I love that. Now you use various
tools when you are assisting your clients, and in using
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those various tools, you also give them a perspective that
is practical and then one that helps them from a
visionary point of view, and also with functual influenced suggestions
there as well with someone who is trying to blend
all of those things together. How do you help the
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person who wants to utilize your services but they have
no idea what they want, they have no idea about
any of this. How do you help them start?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Ooh good question.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Okay, so let me so let me let me preface
that by saying, not the paid version, right, because the
people that are paying you, that's a that's a that consultation,
that's a whole different format of advice. But just someone
who is looking for where to start, you know, like
if they were looking for a blog post or something,
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where did they start in understanding who they are and
how to explain that to you.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Who they are and how to Yes, So it's still
a heavy yes, it's still a deep question. And I
have to give you compliments because I was listening to
your podcasts, like.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Again, knowing I was coming on and meeting you and
all of.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
This stuff, and you're very good at facilitating and thinking
of these deeper questions. Like they're very good at this,
and so I love a deep question. And then my
brain wants to geek out and like say all the things.
But the best place to start to simplify it because
most people are overwhelmed. What I notice these days is
that there's like there's this big spectrum and on one
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end we have.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Like woo woo, like really woo woo, really spiritual. We
just sit and pray, or we sit and meditate, or
we just sit and think positive.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And then on the other side like hustle culture right,
And so people are overwhelmed because back to that question
of like am I being me right? Am I I'm here,
I have good intentions? Am I doing everything right? Okay,
that's great? These uh go sit with yourself, turn everything off,
sit with yourself. And in the middle, who is ideal me?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
What does ideal me look like? What is he doing?
What is she doing? What do they have? What's what's
like a day in the life? If you were too
I love this and I don't know where I heard it,
but like if you were to run into us at
a coffee shop, your audience member comes up me and
you were getting coffee, and they come up and they're like,
I just had the best year of my life. What
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would they say to us right the ideal day? That's
a good way to think about it, because I think
people say, what's my five year plan? I don't even
know how to tell you my five year plan. So
if you were to tell us at a coffee shop,
what's your ideal what happened this last year and it
was the best year of your life? And then I think, okay,
I've painted that picture now. And my framework for everything
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I do is is reframe, rearrange, reinvigorate your mindset. So
do you believe you can have this ideal life you
just painted? Do you believe that you know, yeah, that
is possible to have business success and personal success? Then rearranges.
The functional part is your environment set up to help
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you facilitate and become have that ideal day. Maybe your
ideal day is that you're meditating or reading the Bible.
Do you have a space there for that in your
house for that? Maybe your ideal you is no longer
drinking alcohol. This is just an easy example. But like,
so you have a speakeasy in your living room, we
need to get rid of that, Like that's not helping
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facilitate it. Then your habits the reinvigorate you have painted
this ideal you picture. Are your habits aligned with where
you want to go? And that will tell you where
on the spectrum you are. Well, maybe I have been
like sitting hoping and crossing my fingers on the wu
wuo side a little too long, or maybe I've just
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been like hustling, hustling, hustling, I've lost the bigger picture
of what I even want. So where I would start
for people, where I would recommend is like getting back
to that center of what's the vision here?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
M oh I love that, And you're you're so right.
It seems like we're always at one end or the
other end of the strum. And it's like, I promise
you there's life in the middle, right, Yeah, you really
can settle in the middle and be okay. So you
are so right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think that's where fulfillment is.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Middle like gets a bad rep, but actually middle is balanced.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
People want work life balance.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I say more work life integration because I don't more
different topic for a different day. But middle is good
in this case, like middle is balanced, it's equilibrium, it's fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Mm hmm, no, I agree with you. I tend to
call it work life harmony like because there are so
many things that are going at the same time, and
the same thing with the melodies that we hear, with
the songs that we hear, there tends to be more
than one voice singing at a time. But they they
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don't flash, They they harmonize, They compliment, you know, they
they one one is up, one is down, and the
play that they have with each other. As women, we
wear so many hats and we can't just stay one
thing all of the time, and we have to find
find this harmony, which leads to my next question, thank
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you for saying, and that is for hi achieving women.
So many times they are so used to having to
make all of the decisions and the spaces that they
are in don't always reflect their personal sense of self.
Peace and quiet seems to be a luxury in a
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world of chaos, and that hustle and bustle rate that
hustle culture that used to be really kind of pushed
on us for quite so long, for again, that high
achieving woman that just wants to come home to peace
and quiet. Be it that she has a family or not,
but she just wants to have peace and quiet. What
is maybe one thing that she needs to make sure
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she does that is a form of self care or
just taking a step back or getting to that middle
ground and getting back to that zero on the scale
of zero two one hundred.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, for the woman who wants to have clarity when
they come home or have that sense of peace when
they come home, it's a really like not sexy answer,
but and and they're gonna and their response is probably
gonna be like, oh, well, who has time for that?
But it's like actually prioritizing it because luxury, clarity isn't
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a luxury. Peace isn't a luxury. It actually should be
your standard. Yeah, right, Like it's important Without clarity. Everything
else suffers without Maybe that suffers, even it's just inefficient.
You will be a better friend, a better partner, a
better boss, a better person to yourself, Like, you will
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feel better if you prioritize that. And people, what's very
interesting is that they don't realize. I used to call
myself a functual consultant in the beginning of all this,
and people were like, I don't need funk sshwe you
want me to rotate my couch, like paint a wall
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and like declutter some stuff. My business is falling apart,
my relationship is falling apart. Like that's they don't see
the connection. I stopped referring it to that, to to
what I do that way, and I just tell people
I help you create a successful personal life because when
you have a space that helps you be rested, helps
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you have clarity, so you problem solved more efficiently. It
helps your actions go further. Right, rather than taking ten
actions to take one step forward, you take one step
and it's ten times the result.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's a it's just a priority. So I would.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Say before you're like, like I just had a client reschedule,
bless her. And she's like, I just helped a friend
with an estate sale and somebody passed away, so we're
cleaning out the house and blah blahlah. And her homework
for the last two weeks was to clean her house,
was to organize her house. And it's just really funny
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that like women do that, like you know, and so
the un sexy answer I say, is like.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Prioritize yourself.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
It's worse thinking about it and anticipating figuring it out
than it is actually doing it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
You're gonna feel so good after, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
It's like thinking about getting to the gym, but then
when you get to the gym, you never regret a workout.
So it's like, just tell yourself, I'm gonna create a
bedroom that is peaceful. It's about me. There's no kids
stuff in there, there's no family stuff in there.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It is all for me.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
I feel my best, I feel whatever my ideal me
wants to feel.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I'm gonna make.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That room all about me and calm so I can
step away and have my own little oasis and prioritize
that before everything else.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Absolutely, I love that answer. And you know, yes, we
as women do that. We will always sacrifice ourselves and
what we're supposed to do to help a friend. I
love that about us. But at the same time, sometimes
it can also be to our detriment, so we do
be careful. We need to be mindful of where of
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where we are in that conversation as well.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
So yes, then if I could if I could add
something really quickly, I'm just feeling called to like also
acknowledge the men here. Men have different things, right, Like
they're wearing different hats in their own way. And when
it comes to their house, especially if they don't have
a wife for a girlfriend to help them out, they yes,
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being successful for them, like that's their focus.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Usually if we're.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Speaking general terms, right, we're going to generalize success to
them is like a big deal.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
It's their main focus always.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But the same to them for them to be good leaders,
for them to have balanced so that they're not showing
up emotionally unbalanced right their your personal life to the
men listening is important as well, like your health of
working out, to balance yourself because if they're running these
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big companies, and just like the women, it's it's not
a woman's job only to decorate her house and make
it feel good, like it's important for the man as well,
who wants to be healthy, who wants to be a
great partner, who wants to be a great leader.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Also take the time.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yes, making money is important, but also take the time
to create a space that you can zen out, feel
calm and that you're you know, feel good to be in.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Absolutely absolutely now when we visit your website. I know
that so many times we make sure that we've put
reviews on our website because people do want to know
what are other people saying about the services. And one
review in particular really kind of tickled my heart a
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bit because she said that your work, what you did
for her, you really made like a soul connection. What
she articulated to you and the result that she had,
she was just my words, now over the moon, happy
and pleased with what you did. Of course that has
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to feel good. So my question to you is how
do you maintain your level of work? Not what you
give to the to the client, but how do you
as an individual? How do you maintain that tenacity? How
do you maintain that work ethic without experiencing the burnout?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
What an interesting question. I didn't think that that was
where that was going to go. I thought you're gonna say, like,
how did we do it for her? How do I
maintain a tenacity?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Oh, let's make that the flip side of the coin.
I like that you can tell. I mean I don't
want to, you know, make you divulge anything?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
No no, no, no no no no, this is a ranch.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You're if you're if you're welcome, if you're open to
doing that, absolutely I would I would love to hear well.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
The tenacity like where it comes from? Is I truly
have a curiosity for people? So unlike you know where
my work is a little bit different than therapy or
just func shue or where it's totally different, is it
starts with this conversation.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I know that people log in and we log on.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
They think we're gonna just I'm going to tell them
move a plant here, move a couch here, move this,
And they think that that is going to be the
thing that changes everything.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And actually the first like two hours is us.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Just talking and me asking them why why do you
want a family? Why do you want this? Raise?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Why do you want a partner?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
And most people are so busy because again I work
with I'm trying to help successful people create successful personal
life so that they become better leaders and impact more people, right,
And most of them neglect and they do not slow
down and ask what do I want? We're so good
at think of how many like influencers or coaches or
just people out there helping other people. They turn on
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the camera and they're really good, but their personal life
is falling apart behind the scenes, because they're really good
at holding other people accountable, and they're really good at
supporting people to make their dreams happen. Or like my client,
who you need to fix your house, and you're over
here helping your friend fix her house first.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Which is so funny.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
But so this first, the beginning. What's so fascinating is
I just one love understanding people in the brain and
the choices in psychology, and so it's just a fascination
in general. It doesn't it's not very hard when it's
what your passion is to keep that tenacity. And then
I love watching their brain click. I love watching be like,
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oh maybe I just always wanted that because somebody told
me I wanted that or and so truly I like
live for those conversations.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And it can.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
In the beginning, I will say it was difficult because
I felt this big responsibility to solve their life, and
I did have to unlearn that. I would say it
was harder that to keep that tenacity. Instead it was
more like, well, how do I fix like they're having
this issue with their or this or this. It's like,
you're not really responsible for.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So I had to I had to unlearn that.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
But no, it's very easy for me to be passionate
about this. It's just like who I am helping? My
mom said, My first word was why. And all my
clients now are like, sometimes you annoy me because you
ask me why, like ten times in a row. But
they're like, I'm so glad you did because it got
to the root of what I really want. And then
that's where you get reviews like I am like so
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connected to my higher self again and to who I
am again and my clarity again because we just slow
down and prioritize that and it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, it really, it really is. And you know, I
want to say kudos for asking the why because if
they were seeking therapy, you know over on my side,
counselor hat right, that's the question that keeps getting asked
because that fills back the layers. That's that's what gets
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down to the core of why you're experiencing what you're experiencing.
Flip side, for business, it's the same thing, we say,
what is your why? Like how, not the when, not
the whole, but what is your why? Why do you
want to do what you're doing? And then everything else follows.
So you are so right when people are able to
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finally get down to the nitty gritty of the answer.
And boy do we have a lot of folks that
think that they want something or they're pursuing something, and
it isn't theirs to pursue. You're right. It was their
mother's wish or a grandparent's wish or not from a
legacy point of view, but just they were told to
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do something or they heard it so many times that
they thought that that is who they needed to be
where they may excel in a totally different field. So
we all have to find our theme song and walk
in that. I love that you're doing that for them.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
And those type of people that you speak with, I
ninety percent can promise you that their house is filled
with stuff they feel guilty holding on too. So it's like,
first they get clarity on that, and then it's like,
do you need to Like, your grandma passes away, so
your parents have it, but then they both pass away,
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so now it's.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
All in your house.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Why am I still holding onto this if I want
to be living in Italy? Like, you gotta start getting
rid of this stuff if you want to move or
you know, so I can walk into somebody's house or
what I do is virtual. Mostly I can look at
somebody's house and I will know that, Oh, you're probably
very indecisive. You probably have poor boundaries. You probably have
a lot of guilt about something. Because your stuff you're external,
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is a direct reflection of your internal. So it's getting
clear on that why. And that's where therapy is fantastic.
And some people who are already in therapy, they already
have all these answers very quickly for me, and then
we look at the house. Okay, great, Now that you're
so clear on you and your why, let's give your
space attention with that intention. And if you're somebody who
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says yes to everyone else, like you're always the listener.
You listen to their problems, you listen to what's going on,
and you're the good friend. You probably are the person
that also has everybody's like leftover as you say you're
gonna sell. Yeah, they're hand me down things you're gonna sell.
Or you're the family member that's like, yeah, i'll store
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it in my house.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Next thing.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You know, you don't have a house, you're the storage
locker for your family, so it's very correlated.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Once you see it, you can un see it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Oh my goodness. Now I'm laughing over here because you
are so spot on, especially that last one. I've had
a client go. When did I, as the big sister,
become the storage for everyone? My garage? I can't park
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my car in there anywhere. Yeah, brother has a section,
My cousins have a section. They're stuff from college and
high school. There's our baby stuff in them because their
parents had passed away, and no one wanted to get
rid of anything because they just didn't know what to do.
But like you said, they didn't want to feel guilty
because mom had held onto it all of her life
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for them and they didn't know what to do. And
now she's frustrated because she would like to park her car. Yeah,
she purchased that house because it had a garage and
now it's just the storage. Are you are so right there?
And I know someone right now listening or watching their going,
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Oh my goodness, you can just see the light bulbs
going off. I can hear someone who's in therapy going,
I need to talk about this, Like I need to
call my therapist right now and say I've had a
moment of epiphany because we do not realize how much
external baggage we're carrying around. I love it.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
And what's really cool about funk shue is that, like
you continue to talk to your therapist about it, continue to.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Think through it.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
But sometimes those emotions take a while to release.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
But you know what is.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Like instantly gratifying is giving your siblings all their crap
back and parking your car in your garage. That's the
instant And so it's a beautiful balance of because like
therapy work like it takes time, it's not instant gratification necessarily.
And so the func shue is awesome because it's like, oh,
I now have like a visual representation representation of progress.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Well, let me ask you this thing, because now I'm
just naturally curious about things. Would you say that or
could we make one plus one equal to if the
person who has a whole lot of stuff is because
they they don't want to feel guilty about getting rid
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of things, does that mean the person who has a
minimal list stick type lifestyle that they refuse to hold
onto anything like they are fearful of becoming the hoarder
or being the family keeper of the gems is the
same true, or perhaps not quite as much.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
No, you're so onto something that I noticed nobody talked
about and I've mentioned it here and there very lightly,
But you're very perceptive because yes, back to that, there's
always a middle. There's never like one end of the
spectrum is never right wrong. A lot of people think
it's all about decluttering, and I had said, you know
one day on a random Instagram post.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Who knows when.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
The people who also have perfectly pristine no clutter nothing,
they have their stuff too, and it can be a
I have another woman who she did. She had a
very pristine, perfect house, and she wanted to attract a relationship.
And that's where it was like in Functue when it's like, all,
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let's use white and gray and like true minimalism, right,
like very simple, that's all metal. Metal is very strategic,
it's very it's cold, it's very.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Get things done.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
And I was like, if you want to bring in
warmth and love and a partner and balance, you have
to bring in these other elements.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
We need to add a little bit pink.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
She's like, I'll roll over in my gray before I
had pink to my house and I was like, let's
bring it in like paeonies then or you know, because
if you're that's also so many boundaries. That is also
a symbol of so many boundaries not letting anybody in.
And you know that most people, but not everybody, maybe
they don't want a lifelong partner, but they want friendships
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for when they.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Want to go out.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
That is a warmth and that is a listening to
other people you can't always have, you know, the rigidity
and the control when you have other people in your
life you're supporting. So it's that so yes, you are
right that the other end of the spec M is
like overclean, overorganized, over control, and it's like, why do
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you feel everything needs to be so controlled?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
M h m hm.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Oh my goodness. I love that. I love that. This
is why we have these conversations because you just never
know what when someone is sharing their passion what you
get to learn. And I just learned something today, So
thank you, thank you so much for it is a
It is a wonderful thing because now I can actually
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ask some of my client base, not that I'm trying
to step into your world, but those that are newly
married when we're doing premarital counseling. One of the questions
I ask is how do you expect for your house
to visually appeal to you within the first year? And
then I ask within five years. But I think now
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I'm going to ask the question what do you think
your style is? Are you a maximal list? Are you
a minimal list? Are you traditional like and have like
little pictures? And just ask where do you where do
you think you fall? And that will be that would
be really curious or at least help me give some
insight that if they're having some issues on a particular thing,
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that that's a resource that I could I could suggest
in a way, have you ever thought of getting assistance
with this part and that could help clear up some
of this relationship stuff that you think you're having. And
it's really not even between the two of you. It's
that baggage that you've brought into that space, into your
home that didn't belong to you in the in the
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first place. So I love that. I love that. See
how we just do to do just make it do
a thing. I love it. I love it. Well, my
last question for you is now I know someone listening
is going, yes, I want more of what you are offering.
What is the best way for people to not only
find you online but also to find you on socials.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
On socials, well they'll see this on YouTube, right, so
one of these will be on YouTube. You're on YouTube,
just go over to my channel. You're already on the
platform Elemental Clarity and if you'd like to actually talk
to me and message me, Instagram is the easiest way.
Elemental Clarity over there too, and there's a lot of
free information that people can get started to just like
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dabble right, Like Okay, what she says sounds cool, but
like I don't know if I get it, or they
can just directly DM me and say this part sounded
really cool, but I want to know more about this
or does this supply or can it help me with this?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So I love it. I love it. Thank you again
Jeanette for being a guest here on Passioneer Magazine the podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Thank you, Thank you for listening to Passioneer Magazine the Podcast.
Welcome to Passioneer Magazine. The podcast Well You're here, inspirational stories,
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hello, Hello, Hello, thank you so much for joining me
here on Passioneer Magazine, the podcast Welcome to the show, Jennett.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Absolutely absolutely now I cannot wait to talk to you
about what you do, how you do it, and how
you inspire your client base. But I realized that there
may be some people listening or watching that are on
familiar with you and what you do. So first question is,
tell me a little bit about yourself. What makes you you?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
What makes me me? Well, my name's Jeanette Szakowski. As
you introed what makes me me? I was thinking about
this a little bit because I was listening to your podcast,
and I thought if she asked me this question, what
on earth will I say? And I to quote one
of my clients recently, she said, I have the unique
ability to validate people where they are and challenge them
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to act and dream bigger. What makes me me is
I have a deep, deep passion for helping people love
their life again and feel passion inspired about their life.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Because when we.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Love our life and we're acting in our best self,
that's when we change the world. So what makes me
me is this obsession with helping people become the best
version of themselves.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh. I love that answer, and it isn't. That's one
of the reasons why you're here, you know, because you
are a passionaire for your feeling and what you do
and what you bring to your client base. So I
love that speaking of your client base. In so many
areas of our lives we are familiar with, I want
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to have a connection mind, body, and spirit. We want
things to be aligned, we want things to be centered,
We want things to be the best possibly frequency type
things that we can possably have. Right, Like all of
these words that are going around in conversations lately, people
just want to make sure that things are perfect for
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their environment. How do you do that with your client base?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, it's interesting because we hear mind body, spirit connection
alignment a lot, and then it gets to a certain point.
At least I don't know if anybody else can relate
to this, but at least For me, I was so
obsessed with like Tony Robbins and reading all the personal
development books and learning all the things and yes, becoming
the best version of myself. And a certain point I
was like I kind of overdid it. I was like,
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am I being myself right?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Like?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Am I doing this right?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
And it was so cool when I discovered functue.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I have a master's in landscape architecture, which led me
to just original functue is about setting the landforms. Where's
the mountains, the water's the wind. And actually the first
form of it was burying your ancestors in a place
to bring ancestral luck. So now we people kind of
misconstrued it and think about it with clutter and all this,
but got the degree found func shue, and what I
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realized was like, oh, yes, my mind, body soul connection
and like you know, believing in God, believing in myself,
like that's really important. And the actions I'm taking, how
I'm showing up. But the environment supporting me to be
the best version of myself is also a major factory.
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Setting our environment up for success to propel us forward
rather than hold us back is a major thing. And
we don't really we live amongst our stuff. But I
bet you if you ask your audience, like, close your eyes,
walk in your front door, what's the first thing you
see there?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Either don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
What art they have on the wall, or they're like, oh,
I see clutter, I see a broken door, I see
my kids stuff everywhere, and that's in our way. Just
like we want to clear our mind and clear our thoughts,
we want to clear our space.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, you are. You are so right. And I
have to laugh there because I think that you would
even get various answers same household, depending on who you ask.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, true, you.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Know, wife, mom, she's gonna see all of the and
I hate to say the negative side, but she's going
to see all of the clutter, everything that's in disarray. Right,
dad or the husband is going to see the functional,
utilitarian things. What do you see when you walk in
the coat closet, the living room? You know, it is
amazing that the kids are like I just see like home,
(05:05):
you know, or I see my favorite stuffed animal or
my pet or whatever. So I love that perspective about
where are you and how does that relate to how
you see your space and honor that space as well Oh,
I love that. I love that. Now you use various
tools when you are assisting your clients, and in using
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those various tools, you also give them a perspective that
is practical and then one that helps them from a
visionary point of view, and also with functual influenced suggestions
there as well with someone who is trying to blend
all of those things together. How do you help the
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person who wants to utilize your services but they have
no idea what they want, they have no idea about
any of this. How do you help them start?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Ooh good question.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Okay, so let me so let me let me preface
that by saying, not the paid version, right, because the
people that are paying you, that's a that's a that consultation,
that's a whole different format of advice. But just someone
who is looking for where to start, you know, like
if they were looking for a blog post or something,
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where did they start in understanding who they are and
how to explain that to you.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Who they are and how to Yes, So it's still
a heavy yes, it's still a deep question. And I
have to give you compliments because I was listening to
your podcasts, like.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Again, knowing I was coming on and meeting you and
all of.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
This stuff, and you're very good at facilitating and thinking
of these deeper questions. Like they're very good at this,
and so I love a deep question. And then my
brain wants to geek out and like say all the things.
But the best place to start to simplify it because
most people are overwhelmed. What I notice these days is
that there's like there's this big spectrum and on one
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end we have.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Like woo woo, like really woo woo, really spiritual. We
just sit and pray, or we sit and meditate, or
we just sit and think positive.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And then on the other side like hustle culture right,
And so people are overwhelmed because back to that question
of like am I being me right? Am I I'm here,
I have good intentions? Am I doing everything right? Okay,
that's great? These uh go sit with yourself, turn everything off,
sit with yourself. And in the middle, who is ideal me?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
What does ideal me look like? What is he doing?
What is she doing? What do they have? What's what's
like a day in the life? If you were too
I love this and I don't know where I heard it,
but like if you were to run into us at
a coffee shop, your audience member comes up me and
you were getting coffee, and they come up and they're like,
I just had the best year of my life. What
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would they say to us right the ideal day? That's
a good way to think about it, because I think
people say, what's my five year plan? I don't even
know how to tell you my five year plan. So
if you were to tell us at a coffee shop,
what's your ideal what happened this last year and it
was the best year of your life? And then I think, okay,
I've painted that picture now. And my framework for everything
(08:14):
I do is is reframe, rearrange, reinvigorate your mindset. So
do you believe you can have this ideal life you
just painted? Do you believe that you know, yeah, that
is possible to have business success and personal success? Then rearranges.
The functional part is your environment set up to help
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you facilitate and become have that ideal day. Maybe your
ideal day is that you're meditating or reading the Bible.
Do you have a space there for that in your
house for that? Maybe your ideal you is no longer
drinking alcohol. This is just an easy example. But like,
so you have a speakeasy in your living room, we
need to get rid of that, Like that's not helping
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facilitate it. Then your habits the reinvigorate you have painted
this ideal you picture. Are your habits aligned with where
you want to go? And that will tell you where
on the spectrum you are. Well, maybe I have been
like sitting hoping and crossing my fingers on the wu
wuo side a little too long, or maybe I've just
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been like hustling, hustling, hustling, I've lost the bigger picture
of what I even want. So where I would start
for people, where I would recommend is like getting back
to that center of what's the vision here?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
M oh I love that, And you're you're so right.
It seems like we're always at one end or the
other end of the strum. And it's like, I promise
you there's life in the middle, right, Yeah, you really
can settle in the middle and be okay. So you
are so right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think that's where fulfillment is.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Middle like gets a bad rep, but actually middle is balanced.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
People want work life balance.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I say more work life integration because I don't more
different topic for a different day. But middle is good
in this case, like middle is balanced, it's equilibrium, it's fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Mm hmm, no, I agree with you. I tend to
call it work life harmony like because there are so
many things that are going at the same time, and
the same thing with the melodies that we hear, with
the songs that we hear, there tends to be more
than one voice singing at a time. But they they
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don't flash, They they harmonize, They compliment, you know, they
they one one is up, one is down, and the
play that they have with each other. As women, we
wear so many hats and we can't just stay one
thing all of the time, and we have to find
find this harmony, which leads to my next question, thank
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you for saying, and that is for hi achieving women.
So many times they are so used to having to
make all of the decisions and the spaces that they
are in don't always reflect their personal sense of self.
Peace and quiet seems to be a luxury in a
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world of chaos, and that hustle and bustle rate that
hustle culture that used to be really kind of pushed
on us for quite so long, for again, that high
achieving woman that just wants to come home to peace
and quiet. Be it that she has a family or not,
but she just wants to have peace and quiet. What
is maybe one thing that she needs to make sure
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she does that is a form of self care or
just taking a step back or getting to that middle
ground and getting back to that zero on the scale
of zero two one hundred.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, for the woman who wants to have clarity when
they come home or have that sense of peace when
they come home, it's a really like not sexy answer,
but and and they're gonna and their response is probably
gonna be like, oh, well, who has time for that?
But it's like actually prioritizing it because luxury, clarity isn't
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a luxury. Peace isn't a luxury. It actually should be
your standard. Yeah, right, Like it's important Without clarity. Everything
else suffers without Maybe that suffers, even it's just inefficient.
You will be a better friend, a better partner, a
better boss, a better person to yourself, Like, you will
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feel better if you prioritize that. And people, what's very
interesting is that they don't realize. I used to call
myself a functual consultant in the beginning of all this,
and people were like, I don't need funk sshwe you
want me to rotate my couch, like paint a wall
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and like declutter some stuff. My business is falling apart,
my relationship is falling apart. Like that's they don't see
the connection. I stopped referring it to that, to to
what I do that way, and I just tell people
I help you create a successful personal life because when
you have a space that helps you be rested, helps
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you have clarity, so you problem solved more efficiently. It
helps your actions go further. Right, rather than taking ten
actions to take one step forward, you take one step
and it's ten times the result.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's a it's just a priority. So I would.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Say before you're like, like I just had a client reschedule,
bless her. And she's like, I just helped a friend
with an estate sale and somebody passed away, so we're
cleaning out the house and blah blahlah. And her homework
for the last two weeks was to clean her house,
was to organize her house. And it's just really funny
(13:49):
that like women do that, like you know, and so
the un sexy answer I say, is like.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Prioritize yourself.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
It's worse thinking about it and anticipating figuring it out
than it is actually doing it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
You're gonna feel so good after, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
It's like thinking about getting to the gym, but then
when you get to the gym, you never regret a workout.
So it's like, just tell yourself, I'm gonna create a
bedroom that is peaceful. It's about me. There's no kids
stuff in there, there's no family stuff in there.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It is all for me.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
I feel my best, I feel whatever my ideal me
wants to feel.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I'm gonna make.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That room all about me and calm so I can
step away and have my own little oasis and prioritize
that before everything else.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Absolutely, I love that answer. And you know, yes, we
as women do that. We will always sacrifice ourselves and
what we're supposed to do to help a friend. I
love that about us. But at the same time, sometimes
it can also be to our detriment, so we do
be careful. We need to be mindful of where of
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where we are in that conversation as well.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
So yes, then if I could if I could add
something really quickly, I'm just feeling called to like also
acknowledge the men here. Men have different things, right, Like
they're wearing different hats in their own way. And when
it comes to their house, especially if they don't have
a wife for a girlfriend to help them out, they yes,
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being successful for them, like that's their focus.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Usually if we're.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Speaking general terms, right, we're going to generalize success to
them is like a big deal.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
It's their main focus always.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But the same to them for them to be good leaders,
for them to have balanced so that they're not showing
up emotionally unbalanced right their your personal life to the
men listening is important as well, like your health of
working out, to balance yourself because if they're running these
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big companies, and just like the women, it's it's not
a woman's job only to decorate her house and make
it feel good, like it's important for the man as well,
who wants to be healthy, who wants to be a
great partner, who wants to be a great leader.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Also take the time.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yes, making money is important, but also take the time
to create a space that you can zen out, feel
calm and that you're you know, feel good to be in.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Absolutely absolutely now when we visit your website. I know
that so many times we make sure that we've put
reviews on our website because people do want to know
what are other people saying about the services. And one
review in particular really kind of tickled my heart a
(16:43):
bit because she said that your work, what you did
for her, you really made like a soul connection. What
she articulated to you and the result that she had,
she was just my words, now over the moon, happy
and pleased with what you did. Of course that has
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to feel good. So my question to you is how
do you maintain your level of work? Not what you
give to the to the client, but how do you
as an individual? How do you maintain that tenacity? How
do you maintain that work ethic without experiencing the burnout?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
What an interesting question. I didn't think that that was
where that was going to go. I thought you're gonna say, like,
how did we do it for her? How do I
maintain a tenacity?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Oh, let's make that the flip side of the coin.
I like that you can tell. I mean I don't
want to, you know, make you divulge anything?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
No no, no, no no no no, this is a ranch.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You're if you're if you're welcome, if you're open to
doing that, absolutely I would I would love to hear well.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
The tenacity like where it comes from? Is I truly
have a curiosity for people? So unlike you know where
my work is a little bit different than therapy or
just func shue or where it's totally different, is it
starts with this conversation.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I know that people log in and we log on.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
They think we're gonna just I'm going to tell them
move a plant here, move a couch here, move this,
And they think that that is going to be the
thing that changes everything.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And actually the first like two hours is us.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Just talking and me asking them why why do you
want a family? Why do you want this? Raise?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Why do you want a partner?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
And most people are so busy because again I work
with I'm trying to help successful people create successful personal
life so that they become better leaders and impact more people, right,
And most of them neglect and they do not slow
down and ask what do I want? We're so good
at think of how many like influencers or coaches or
just people out there helping other people. They turn on
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the camera and they're really good, but their personal life
is falling apart behind the scenes, because they're really good
at holding other people accountable, and they're really good at
supporting people to make their dreams happen. Or like my client,
who you need to fix your house, and you're over
here helping your friend fix her house first.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Which is so funny.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
But so this first, the beginning. What's so fascinating is
I just one love understanding people in the brain and
the choices in psychology, and so it's just a fascination
in general. It doesn't it's not very hard when it's
what your passion is to keep that tenacity. And then
I love watching their brain click. I love watching be like,
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oh maybe I just always wanted that because somebody told
me I wanted that or and so truly I like
live for those conversations.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And it can.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
In the beginning, I will say it was difficult because
I felt this big responsibility to solve their life, and
I did have to unlearn that. I would say it
was harder that to keep that tenacity. Instead it was
more like, well, how do I fix like they're having
this issue with their or this or this. It's like,
you're not really responsible for.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So I had to I had to unlearn that.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
But no, it's very easy for me to be passionate
about this. It's just like who I am helping? My
mom said, My first word was why. And all my
clients now are like, sometimes you annoy me because you
ask me why, like ten times in a row. But
they're like, I'm so glad you did because it got
to the root of what I really want. And then
that's where you get reviews like I am like so
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connected to my higher self again and to who I
am again and my clarity again because we just slow
down and prioritize that and it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, it really, it really is. And you know, I
want to say kudos for asking the why because if
they were seeking therapy, you know over on my side,
counselor hat right, that's the question that keeps getting asked
because that fills back the layers. That's that's what gets
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down to the core of why you're experiencing what you're experiencing.
Flip side, for business, it's the same thing, we say,
what is your why? Like how, not the when, not
the whole, but what is your why? Why do you
want to do what you're doing? And then everything else follows.
So you are so right when people are able to
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finally get down to the nitty gritty of the answer.
And boy do we have a lot of folks that
think that they want something or they're pursuing something, and
it isn't theirs to pursue. You're right. It was their
mother's wish or a grandparent's wish or not from a
legacy point of view, but just they were told to
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do something or they heard it so many times that
they thought that that is who they needed to be
where they may excel in a totally different field. So
we all have to find our theme song and walk
in that. I love that you're doing that for them.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
And those type of people that you speak with, I
ninety percent can promise you that their house is filled
with stuff they feel guilty holding on too. So it's like,
first they get clarity on that, and then it's like,
do you need to Like, your grandma passes away, so
your parents have it, but then they both pass away,
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so now it's.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
All in your house.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Why am I still holding onto this if I want
to be living in Italy? Like, you gotta start getting
rid of this stuff if you want to move or
you know, so I can walk into somebody's house or
what I do is virtual. Mostly I can look at
somebody's house and I will know that, Oh, you're probably
very indecisive. You probably have poor boundaries. You probably have
a lot of guilt about something. Because your stuff you're external,
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is a direct reflection of your internal. So it's getting
clear on that why. And that's where therapy is fantastic.
And some people who are already in therapy, they already
have all these answers very quickly for me, and then
we look at the house. Okay, great, Now that you're
so clear on you and your why, let's give your
space attention with that intention. And if you're somebody who
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says yes to everyone else, like you're always the listener.
You listen to their problems, you listen to what's going on,
and you're the good friend. You probably are the person
that also has everybody's like leftover as you say you're
gonna sell. Yeah, they're hand me down things you're gonna sell.
Or you're the family member that's like, yeah, i'll store
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it in my house.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Next thing.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You know, you don't have a house, you're the storage
locker for your family, so it's very correlated.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Once you see it, you can un see it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Oh my goodness. Now I'm laughing over here because you
are so spot on, especially that last one. I've had
a client go. When did I, as the big sister,
become the storage for everyone? My garage? I can't park
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my car in there anywhere. Yeah, brother has a section,
My cousins have a section. They're stuff from college and
high school. There's our baby stuff in them because their
parents had passed away, and no one wanted to get
rid of anything because they just didn't know what to do.
But like you said, they didn't want to feel guilty
because mom had held onto it all of her life
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for them and they didn't know what to do. And
now she's frustrated because she would like to park her car. Yeah,
she purchased that house because it had a garage and
now it's just the storage. Are you are so right there?
And I know someone right now listening or watching their going,
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Oh my goodness, you can just see the light bulbs
going off. I can hear someone who's in therapy going,
I need to talk about this, Like I need to
call my therapist right now and say I've had a
moment of epiphany because we do not realize how much
external baggage we're carrying around. I love it.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
And what's really cool about funk shue is that, like
you continue to talk to your therapist about it, continue to.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Think through it.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
But sometimes those emotions take a while to release.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
But you know what is.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Like instantly gratifying is giving your siblings all their crap
back and parking your car in your garage. That's the
instant And so it's a beautiful balance of because like
therapy work like it takes time, it's not instant gratification necessarily.
And so the func shue is awesome because it's like, oh,
I now have like a visual representation representation of progress.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Well, let me ask you this thing, because now I'm
just naturally curious about things. Would you say that or
could we make one plus one equal to if the
person who has a whole lot of stuff is because
they they don't want to feel guilty about getting rid
(25:56):
of things, does that mean the person who has a
minimal list stick type lifestyle that they refuse to hold
onto anything like they are fearful of becoming the hoarder
or being the family keeper of the gems is the
same true, or perhaps not quite as much.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
No, you're so onto something that I noticed nobody talked
about and I've mentioned it here and there very lightly,
But you're very perceptive because yes, back to that, there's
always a middle. There's never like one end of the
spectrum is never right wrong. A lot of people think
it's all about decluttering, and I had said, you know
one day on a random Instagram post.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Who knows when.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
The people who also have perfectly pristine no clutter nothing,
they have their stuff too, and it can be a
I have another woman who she did. She had a
very pristine, perfect house, and she wanted to attract a relationship.
And that's where it was like in Functue when it's like, all,
(27:02):
let's use white and gray and like true minimalism, right,
like very simple, that's all metal. Metal is very strategic,
it's very it's cold, it's very.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Get things done.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
And I was like, if you want to bring in
warmth and love and a partner and balance, you have
to bring in these other elements.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
We need to add a little bit pink.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
She's like, I'll roll over in my gray before I
had pink to my house and I was like, let's
bring it in like paeonies then or you know, because
if you're that's also so many boundaries. That is also
a symbol of so many boundaries not letting anybody in.
And you know that most people, but not everybody, maybe
they don't want a lifelong partner, but they want friendships
(27:41):
for when they.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Want to go out.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
That is a warmth and that is a listening to
other people you can't always have, you know, the rigidity
and the control when you have other people in your
life you're supporting. So it's that so yes, you are
right that the other end of the spec M is
like overclean, overorganized, over control, and it's like, why do
(28:06):
you feel everything needs to be so controlled?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
M h m hm.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Oh my goodness. I love that. I love that. This
is why we have these conversations because you just never
know what when someone is sharing their passion what you
get to learn. And I just learned something today, So
thank you, thank you so much for it is a
It is a wonderful thing because now I can actually
(28:31):
ask some of my client base, not that I'm trying
to step into your world, but those that are newly
married when we're doing premarital counseling. One of the questions
I ask is how do you expect for your house
to visually appeal to you within the first year? And
then I ask within five years. But I think now
(28:52):
I'm going to ask the question what do you think
your style is? Are you a maximal list? Are you
a minimal list? Are you traditional like and have like
little pictures? And just ask where do you where do
you think you fall? And that will be that would
be really curious or at least help me give some
insight that if they're having some issues on a particular thing,
(29:14):
that that's a resource that I could I could suggest
in a way, have you ever thought of getting assistance
with this part and that could help clear up some
of this relationship stuff that you think you're having. And
it's really not even between the two of you. It's
that baggage that you've brought into that space, into your
home that didn't belong to you in the in the
(29:37):
first place. So I love that. I love that. See
how we just do to do just make it do
a thing. I love it. I love it. Well, my
last question for you is now I know someone listening
is going, yes, I want more of what you are offering.
What is the best way for people to not only
find you online but also to find you on socials.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
On socials, well they'll see this on YouTube, right, so
one of these will be on YouTube. You're on YouTube,
just go over to my channel. You're already on the
platform Elemental Clarity and if you'd like to actually talk
to me and message me, Instagram is the easiest way.
Elemental Clarity over there too, and there's a lot of
free information that people can get started to just like
(30:20):
dabble right, Like Okay, what she says sounds cool, but
like I don't know if I get it, or they
can just directly DM me and say this part sounded
really cool, but I want to know more about this
or does this supply or can it help me with this?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So I love it. I love it. Thank you again
Jeanette for being a guest here on Passioneer Magazine the podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Thank you, Thank you for listening to Passioneer Magazine the Podcast.
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