September 30, 2025 • 30 mins
Join PASSIONEER Magazine The Podcast as we talk with Wendy Gunn. Wendy is a confident Christian entrepreneur, speaker, best-selling author, ovarian cancer survivor, and creator of the movement, “Tell Your Story For God’s Glory.”
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Passioneer Magazine, the podcast Well You're Here, inspirational stories,
encouraging news, and in depth interviews with authors, influencers, CEOs
and thought leaders. Passioneer Magazine the podcast Bold Ideas, Brave Pursuits,
Boundless Inspiration.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hello, Hello, Hello, thank you so much for joining me
here on Passioneer Magazine, the podcast Welcome to the show, Wendy.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Thank you so much, doctor Angela. It's honor to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Absolutely now. I love the fact that you are a
faith preneur much like myself, and that we share who
we are what we do through the lens of a faith,
and I could not wait to have you on the show.
So glad that you are here. Now, I realized I
may be introducing you to some people that are unfamiliar
(01:09):
with you and your work, So before we get started,
tell us a little bit about yourself. What makes you you?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well? Thank you well.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I am a as you said, faith based entrepreneur, Christian entrepreneur.
My name is Wendy Gunn and I have been doing
this for over a decade and I had gone through
ovarian cancer and was miraculously healed with two football sized
tumors inside of me.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That led to a desperation to be healthier.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I was extremely obese, and I was copying and comparing
myself to everyone. And I began with losing fifty pounds
the year after my diagnosis and going through chemo. That
led to many other big goals achieved and.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Led me into well.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I achieved raising our children, homeschooling, start to finish, and
then said, well, now what am I supposed to do
with the rest of my life? And God led me
into first blogging and then an online business after the
age of sixty, and I achieved some of my biggest goals.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
After the age of sixty.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I lost another fifty pounds, so total of about one
hundred or more. And so I help Christian women, especially
entrepreneurial women, to.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Embrace who you.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Are uniquely created to be, because I recognize that my
story is unique, not like anybody else is in the world,
and so is yours.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And then to embrace.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
God's goals for you, and that if you have left
God Scott goals left for you to achieve.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh I love that answer. I love that. Now let
me ask you. Let me ask you this because I
love that you are setting the platform again for faith
based women. Now with your platform, your Home for God
loved the name again, you're helping women in various stages
(03:24):
of their lives. I like to call them phases and
stages of our womanhood, right from preparing our homes to
raising our children, being the best wives that we can be,
but also the best just human beings in general that
we can be. With that being said, how did your
mission really evolve through that process? Because you too, of course,
(03:47):
with all of our businesses, we start one place and
we are now at a different place. So how did
that evolution with you also help you with your journey
with women?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And that reminds me of a quote I just came
across by Benjamin Franklin just about a week ago that
if you are finished changing, you're finished. And so we
are constantly changing. And with those changes. After ovarian cancer,
(04:20):
I God started working on my life. I became organized
from very disorganized, and I started to learn about time
management and those are your Home for God LLC is
the whole company, and I have your Home for God
dot com. But I have recently started the business side,
(04:42):
which is the Wendy Gun dot com and have in
the process of separating those two but your home for
God deals with all of the things that a woman.
It's not We're very complex, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So it overlaps.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But I began to teach. Younger women would come and
ask me about different things because they saw that I
was becoming more organized. I was learning these different skills,
and so I began mentoring. And then in my blogging
(05:18):
and in my r Oom for God, I began to
do videos and teachings and workshops about goal setting because
I was learning how to achieve all these different goals,
and smart goals became really important. So as I learned
all these skills, then I turned around and taught them.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I love that. To me, one of the greatest gifts
that I feel that I have been blessed with is
the ability to not only share a story, but to
share a story in a way that it is someone's heart,
but it also kind of fires up their spirit enough
(06:05):
to see, Oh, that's how God can help me too,
or that's where Holy Spirit has come into that person's
life and really made a difference. And in being able
to do that, we are able to touch so many
women and help them be exactly who God has created them.
To be and I love you that you are doing
that and speaking along that vein. I talk a lot
(06:30):
about legacy and how we can should and be about
our path of legacy, be that we are extending a
family legacy or we are creating one for those who
follow behind. With that being said, what does legacy mean
(06:50):
to you personally? But then flip side of the coin,
how do you teach that to your ladies, to your
client base and helpingcourage them to walk in that as well?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Great question, doctor Angela, Well, I talk about leaving yourself first,
and so as I'm learning and learning new things, I
am going up that mountain and then turning in helping
another person. And two things. When I learned that your
(07:23):
whole story, not just the good parts, is what's going
to touch the hearts of others God that transforms more
through the trials than the triumphs. And if I succeed
at this person or that person's fabulous goals, and they
might be fabulous goals, at the end of my life,
(07:43):
I will have failed because I didn't fulfill God's purpose.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
For me and his goals for me.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And so I talk to each person to encourage them
to listen to God, which is my latest the thing
that God has been really teaching me over the last
year or so about how to fulfill the goals and
be that busy woman, the entrepreneur successful without burnout.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
And we have to rest.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
We have to allow ourselves, give ourselves permission to rest, is.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
What I say. So as the legacy I want to
leave is.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Being an example of all that I'm teaching to be
an inspiration because I'm living it out.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I am saying, go to God, Go to God. He's
got He's got the answer for you. Spend time in.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
The Word of God every day. Be consistent, not perfect,
put away the three p's, put away perfectionism, procrastination and
people pleasing.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And embrace which.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It means the trials as well as the triumphs your
story and then tell it for God's glory. So I
hope that my life exemplifies all of that, so that
I'm walking the walk, not just talking the talk. And
if I do that, I will naturally, we all will,
(09:28):
you will, we will leave a legacy that others can follow.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh that is beautiful. I love that answer. And you
are you are so correct. And my viewers, my listeners,
have hurt me tell my story. I'm a breast cancer survivor,
not comparing the two. And I've also told other people
that don't compare with my cancer. It's different. You know,
you're a cancer. It's like, hey, we both went down
(09:56):
a cancer road. Let's not compare who had the better
car on the road. Right, we all went through a something.
But in that you are, you are so right. I
remember waking up from surgery and just being like, oh,
thank God I made it, Like, thank you Lord for
allowing me to be with my family again, to have
this part too of what I'm doing. And if I
(10:20):
thought I was prepared before, which I was. However, oh,
I'm really fired up now because you must have something
really awesome and amazing for me to do, because you
made sure that I made it to this side as well.
So I love that you are. You are sharing that perspective,
and you are encouraging a woman to don't let the obstacle,
(10:43):
the pothole, the pit, stop, the whatever whatever word you
want to use there, right, don't allow that to hinder
or stop you, or even too long of a pause,
because sometimes even in a pause, you can start to
doubt yourself. And we don't want you to do that
if God gave it to you. They say, if God
gives it to you, he'll get you through it. Something
like that, say let's do that. I love that. Well,
(11:05):
I want to kind of flip the coin just a little.
Another thing that you talk about is homeschooling. Now, in
the state of California, homeschooling is really popular and people
are very familiar with it. However, I realized that there
are some states and commonwealths that perhaps homeschooling is not
(11:25):
as well known or they don't even know it's an
option in their state. With that being said, how do
you introduce that to those that are a little curious
or want to get started in really taking on the
task of educating our children.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Well, homeschooling was very very important.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
In our family, but it has been I finished homeschooling
our children in two thousand and seven, so it has
been a long time since I have been actively and
involved in it, although I'm surrounded by many homeschooling families.
But I would say that again, don't compare yourself. Don't
(12:15):
think that you have to do it exactly like this
or exactly like that, because.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I did that. I did that, and I many of.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Us start out trying to bring public school home, and
that is that doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It doesn't work. It's also just.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
There's so many advantages to homeschooling that you lose if
you try to do that. Also, recognize not only are
you created uniquely by God, your children are each uniquely created.
So homeschooling allows you to encourage their giftedness and encourage
(13:05):
them to find out what are their passions. And I
love the idea of passions and each of your children
God's put passions in that and they're going to be different.
They're going to be different from yours, and they're going
to be different from each other's. But you can do
(13:27):
in our day and age, you can do tons of
research to find out and it is important to find
out what your state laws are. You probably have a
state homeschooling association that you could contact and find out
what the laws are. But find out what they are
(13:48):
and then don't worry about too much. I recommend reading
aloud to your children. If you can make your children
lovers of learning, you will have succeeded, because whatever you
teach them, there's going to be gaps. But if they
(14:09):
loved learning and know how to find out the information
they can keep learning for the rest of their lives.
And then I really recommend being a lover of books
and reading. And how we nurtured that was to do reading.
We had a literature based timeline approach to our schooling,
(14:33):
and so it was we would take one hundred years
a century and find out who lived during that century,
and we would read biographies. And there are certain book series.
Childhood of Famous Americans was one of them that we
just was so so good, and the best literature is
(14:53):
interesting to an adult reading it to the children as well,
and we would often save the book reading to our
evenings so that my husband could be.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
And when you are reading together, you're thinking later about
those things, but you're all together and it was just
a rich, rich time. And then you learn about the culture.
You bring in so many aspects of learning when you read.
You learn about the culture of that person wherever they lived.
(15:27):
You learn about science often, you learn the words in
vocabulary as enlarged by reading, and just so many things.
And then you can assign at different levels of your
children's ages a sign they could maybe just tell you narrate, well,
what was that story about or what was your favorite part,
(15:50):
and they can tell it back to you. Older children
can write a short report on it. You can use
that as your spelling list. And I'm giving you way
more than you know, but this is this is how
you can incorporate and make it fun and then find out, well,
this child really My daughter, for example, seemed attracted to
(16:14):
tragedies and she was in grade school, but she loved
learning about the Titanic. And then she you know, we
were in a homeschool if you have a homeschool association
or a consultant maybe in your area, and we had
a consultant and a group that required our children to
(16:35):
write a report each year with footnotes and references. And
so she wrote about Annie Oakley one year, and she
wrote about the Titanic, you know, and she They're going
to have interests and if you can then foster those,
(16:56):
you'll see them just light up and you will be
encouraging God's work in their lives to become who they
will be as adults. And I could go on and on.
We had so much fun at homeschooling.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But if you can.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Remember one thing, your homeschool is different than anyone else's Yes,
there are laws, but don't let them cage you in
and just enjoy being together and don't worry about finishing.
(17:38):
You know, if you use workbooks, don't worry about finishing them.
So I just encourage you to be creative and pursue
your passions.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And I love how you're saying, give yourself permission to
not formulate your homeschool with the same rigidity that public
school has, and that it's we have to teach this today,
we have to take this quiz today, we have to
take the test today. Because it's homeschool. You have the
permission to have a half a day on Monday and
(18:12):
a full day on Tuesday, and maybe some extra stuff
on Wednesday, to go on that field trip, to go
to the park, to maybe not have school on Thursday
because you want to have it on Saturday instead. Absolutely,
just to have that fluidity there and not put yourself
in that cage. I love that, and I think for
so many people that's what they're afraid of, Like you said,
(18:35):
you know, they're trying to make public school there, or
the way that we even do things in corporate America,
the way that they do things for the for the
whole school and do it the way that best suits
your family. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Now one more thoughts, I just want to say too
that don't make your child sit at a desk.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
My son's best pasture for.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Doing his work was down on you know, one knee,
one knee up and one knee down, and you know,
and he was a left hand. And I tried to
make him sit at a desk and write, and.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
You know, didn't work.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
All of life is learning. You can go outside and
examine the bugs and the grass. You can go, like
you said, on a field trip. Our vacations in the
summer became a learning experience. And then they would you know,
take pictures right or report afterwards.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And absolutely I love it. Now let's switch to mom.
So many times, as women, we have to figure out
how do we deal with the rhyme and the rhythm
of the busyness, uh, the organized chaos and the occasional
oo oohs that happened along our days. How do you
(19:52):
encourage women to find that anchor in spirit as far
as their connection with God and being able to utilize
that piece those scriptures that really sue our souls to
encourage them to be anchored in that and to allow
that to lead them and guide them through the day.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That is an awesome question. And anchor anchoring your soul,
that's a wonderful phrase. So I talk a lot about
being in the Bible and not beating yourself up about it.
It's a relationship with God, and there are very many
(20:36):
creative ways where you can fit time in the Word
of God into your life, in the ebb and flow
of your days, and to just relax about it and
get to know God. And if you really want to
get to know God and you really want to spend
time in his word, he will help you. And then
(21:01):
maybe it means you're putting up scripture around your house
on three by five cards. I really recommend that, and
then your children see that as well. Maybe it means
while your children are if your home's going, while you're
eating lunch, maybe you're reading the Bible while they're eating.
You're both getting the word of God. Maybe you're listening
(21:23):
to the Word of God. I use Biblegateway dot com
and you've got the different versions and so forth. And
I'm a King James girl. But you can listen to
scriptures and you can put your earbuds in and you know,
so you're not You can do it anytime of the
day or night.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Some people.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
There have been times in my life in the last
few years where I've gotten up in the middle of
the night. I've gone to bed earlier, gotten up.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
In the middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
You do what you works for you, and it's not
all always going to look the same.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, and that's okay. And to again give yourself grace.
Don't be beating yourself up with shoulds.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Don't be looking at other people and going, well, I
don't do it like that. Do not let other people's
way of studying the Bible, their prayer life, their relationship
with God, because you're uniquely created and there are no
two people whose relationships are the same, right, And so
(22:31):
your relationship, doctor Angela with God, my relationship with God,
those are different, aren't they. Yeah, And everyone's is different
and that's okay. So I you know, just giving yourself
grace and permission. And then time blocking is so when
(22:54):
I learned to time block, it was, you know, like
the usual saying. You know, I learned many years ago
about the concept of margin, and that's the white like
the white space on the page around the black print,
(23:14):
and your life has to have margin.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
And I talk.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
About planning a schedule, having a plan, that's that, how
do I say it? All of a sudden, I blinked,
I have a blog post about this. But planning for
interruptions because they will happen. If you are so rigidly
(23:39):
and you're not giving yourself any margin between things, and
you're rigidly scheduling your day, you're going to be miserable
and you won't achieve. You can't because there will be interruptions,
there will be things that happen. And so you know,
having a block, I plan a week, day time. I
(24:00):
usually plan on the weekend or Friday or Saturday so
that I'm ready. So if I need to make preparations,
I can before Monday and then have a schedule for
the week that has blocks, and then have a stop
time and free time. So I'm not planning every evening
(24:22):
something maybe two nights a week. Homeschool moms don't plan
every second or every evening, You're going to be miserable.
And just to really step back and not expect that
you can do everything you can't And then the time
blocks you talked about going on a field trip, or
(24:44):
something comes up that's fun, or you have a gloriously
beautiful day all of a sudden and.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
You had planned to do all this scho work in
the house, Well you can move that block over here.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Absolutely, absolutely, I love it.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
That's so important.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, yeah, just learning how to do what you have
to do in being organized, but also just giving yourself
the permission to be as flexible as you need to
be in any given situation. And you are, and you
are so right. I have suggested to some of my
clients who this idea is new to them, and I said, okay,
(25:29):
so what I want you to do for the remainder
of the month is set your Apple watch so that
you can have that moment where it reminds you to
stand up. So when it says stand up, I want
you to physically stand up, but I also want you
to move. I want you to go get some water,
go get some tea, some coffee, walk to someone else's desk,
(25:51):
just check in with them. But have that moment where
you take that break to break the cycle so that
you give your brain the time that it needs to
reset itself and then go back to that task. And
that is a very simple, easy way of getting used
to having that permission to do this now, but to
(26:15):
do that later, or to do nothing at all. I
love that you remember to schedule that. Well, here is
my last question for you. Out of all of the
many hats that you wear, author is also one of them.
And you have written the book Serving from the Heart.
I love that title. Tell us a little bit about
(26:37):
the book.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Well, it is a compilation, and I am one of
the authors in it, but it is a best selling book,
Serving from the Heart. And my chapter talks about how.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You lead yourself first.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And so John Maxwell, if you're familiar with him, talks
a lot about leadership, and he talks about that if
you are an effective leader, you don't say.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Go go climb that mountain. Go, you know, I'll stand
here and cheer you on. No, you go.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Up, and then you turn and you help them come
up behind you.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And so you.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Need to lead yourself first. And I have tried, like
I said in this interview, to exemplify that, and God
is continually teaching me new insights in that.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
But it tells it.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Goes into a deeper story, the story of my literal
miraculous healing from a variant cancer and the things that
I learned through that, and then how God used that
to help me begin to set really big goals and
how to achieve those goals. And oh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I love it. It sounds like such a good read,
and no wonder it is a bestseller. I love that.
Congratulations on you and all of your fellow authors there. Well,
Madibi are out of a time, but I know that
someone wants to be able to follow up with you,
to follow what you're doing, and to meet and greet
with you on socials. With that being said, what is
(28:23):
the best way to reach out to you and to
stay current with what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Well, thank you, doctor Angela. It's been wonderful to be here,
and I'm going to give you. I have two freebies. Actually,
if you identify with that Christian mom and homeschooler, or
you are a busy Christian entrepreneur who would love to
be more consistent. I have a free checklist for consistent
(28:52):
daily routines and that you can find at your home
for God, Why oh you are h O M E
F O R G O D dot com Slash checklists
DASH B M O L which stands for busy mom,
organized life. So that's your room for God dot com
(29:13):
Slash checklists.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Dash B M O L.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And that gives you two a morning and an evening
checklist that you can start to have consistent routines. And
then my freebe for you as a Christian woman entrepreneurial
person is the seven habits of high impact Christian Women
(29:38):
leaders and that you can find at the t E.
Wendy Gun with two ends dot com slash number seven
Dash Habits v. Wendygun dot com Slash seven dash Habits.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I love it. Thank you again, Wendy for being a
guest here on Passioneer Magazine the Podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Thank you for listening to Passioneer Magazine the Podcast
Welcome to Passioneer Magazine, the podcast Well You're Here, inspirational stories,
encouraging news, and in depth interviews with authors, influencers, CEOs
and thought leaders. Passioneer Magazine the podcast Bold Ideas, Brave Pursuits,
Boundless Inspiration.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hello, Hello, Hello, thank you so much for joining me
here on Passioneer Magazine, the podcast Welcome to the show, Wendy.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Thank you so much, doctor Angela. It's honor to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Absolutely now. I love the fact that you are a
faith preneur much like myself, and that we share who
we are what we do through the lens of a faith,
and I could not wait to have you on the show.
So glad that you are here. Now, I realized I
may be introducing you to some people that are unfamiliar
(01:09):
with you and your work, So before we get started,
tell us a little bit about yourself. What makes you you?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well? Thank you well.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I am a as you said, faith based entrepreneur, Christian entrepreneur.
My name is Wendy Gunn and I have been doing
this for over a decade and I had gone through
ovarian cancer and was miraculously healed with two football sized
tumors inside of me.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That led to a desperation to be healthier.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I was extremely obese, and I was copying and comparing
myself to everyone. And I began with losing fifty pounds
the year after my diagnosis and going through chemo. That
led to many other big goals achieved and.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Led me into well.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I achieved raising our children, homeschooling, start to finish, and
then said, well, now what am I supposed to do
with the rest of my life? And God led me
into first blogging and then an online business after the
age of sixty, and I achieved some of my biggest goals.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
After the age of sixty.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I lost another fifty pounds, so total of about one
hundred or more. And so I help Christian women, especially
entrepreneurial women, to.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Embrace who you.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Are uniquely created to be, because I recognize that my
story is unique, not like anybody else is in the world,
and so is yours.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And then to embrace.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
God's goals for you, and that if you have left
God Scott goals left for you to achieve.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh I love that answer. I love that. Now let
me ask you. Let me ask you this because I
love that you are setting the platform again for faith
based women. Now with your platform, your Home for God
loved the name again, you're helping women in various stages
(03:24):
of their lives. I like to call them phases and
stages of our womanhood, right from preparing our homes to
raising our children, being the best wives that we can be,
but also the best just human beings in general that
we can be. With that being said, how did your
mission really evolve through that process? Because you too, of course,
(03:47):
with all of our businesses, we start one place and
we are now at a different place. So how did
that evolution with you also help you with your journey
with women?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And that reminds me of a quote I just came
across by Benjamin Franklin just about a week ago that
if you are finished changing, you're finished. And so we
are constantly changing. And with those changes. After ovarian cancer,
(04:20):
I God started working on my life. I became organized
from very disorganized, and I started to learn about time
management and those are your Home for God LLC is
the whole company, and I have your Home for God
dot com. But I have recently started the business side,
(04:42):
which is the Wendy Gun dot com and have in
the process of separating those two but your home for
God deals with all of the things that a woman.
It's not We're very complex, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So it overlaps.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But I began to teach. Younger women would come and
ask me about different things because they saw that I
was becoming more organized. I was learning these different skills,
and so I began mentoring. And then in my blogging
(05:18):
and in my r Oom for God, I began to
do videos and teachings and workshops about goal setting because
I was learning how to achieve all these different goals,
and smart goals became really important. So as I learned
all these skills, then I turned around and taught them.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I love that. To me, one of the greatest gifts
that I feel that I have been blessed with is
the ability to not only share a story, but to
share a story in a way that it is someone's heart,
but it also kind of fires up their spirit enough
(06:05):
to see, Oh, that's how God can help me too,
or that's where Holy Spirit has come into that person's
life and really made a difference. And in being able
to do that, we are able to touch so many
women and help them be exactly who God has created them.
To be and I love you that you are doing
that and speaking along that vein. I talk a lot
(06:30):
about legacy and how we can should and be about
our path of legacy, be that we are extending a
family legacy or we are creating one for those who
follow behind. With that being said, what does legacy mean
(06:50):
to you personally? But then flip side of the coin,
how do you teach that to your ladies, to your
client base and helpingcourage them to walk in that as well?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Great question, doctor Angela, Well, I talk about leaving yourself first,
and so as I'm learning and learning new things, I
am going up that mountain and then turning in helping
another person. And two things. When I learned that your
(07:23):
whole story, not just the good parts, is what's going
to touch the hearts of others God that transforms more
through the trials than the triumphs. And if I succeed
at this person or that person's fabulous goals, and they
might be fabulous goals, at the end of my life,
(07:43):
I will have failed because I didn't fulfill God's purpose.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
For me and his goals for me.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And so I talk to each person to encourage them
to listen to God, which is my latest the thing
that God has been really teaching me over the last
year or so about how to fulfill the goals and
be that busy woman, the entrepreneur successful without burnout.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
And we have to rest.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
We have to allow ourselves, give ourselves permission to rest, is.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
What I say. So as the legacy I want to
leave is.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Being an example of all that I'm teaching to be
an inspiration because I'm living it out.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I am saying, go to God, Go to God. He's
got He's got the answer for you. Spend time in.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
The Word of God every day. Be consistent, not perfect,
put away the three p's, put away perfectionism, procrastination and
people pleasing.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And embrace which.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It means the trials as well as the triumphs your
story and then tell it for God's glory. So I
hope that my life exemplifies all of that, so that
I'm walking the walk, not just talking the talk. And
if I do that, I will naturally, we all will,
(09:28):
you will, we will leave a legacy that others can follow.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh that is beautiful. I love that answer. And you
are you are so correct. And my viewers, my listeners,
have hurt me tell my story. I'm a breast cancer survivor,
not comparing the two. And I've also told other people
that don't compare with my cancer. It's different. You know,
you're a cancer. It's like, hey, we both went down
(09:56):
a cancer road. Let's not compare who had the better
car on the road. Right, we all went through a something.
But in that you are, you are so right. I
remember waking up from surgery and just being like, oh,
thank God I made it, Like, thank you Lord for
allowing me to be with my family again, to have
this part too of what I'm doing. And if I
(10:20):
thought I was prepared before, which I was. However, oh,
I'm really fired up now because you must have something
really awesome and amazing for me to do, because you
made sure that I made it to this side as well.
So I love that you are. You are sharing that perspective,
and you are encouraging a woman to don't let the obstacle,
(10:43):
the pothole, the pit, stop, the whatever whatever word you
want to use there, right, don't allow that to hinder
or stop you, or even too long of a pause,
because sometimes even in a pause, you can start to
doubt yourself. And we don't want you to do that
if God gave it to you. They say, if God
gives it to you, he'll get you through it. Something
like that, say let's do that. I love that. Well,
(11:05):
I want to kind of flip the coin just a little.
Another thing that you talk about is homeschooling. Now, in
the state of California, homeschooling is really popular and people
are very familiar with it. However, I realized that there
are some states and commonwealths that perhaps homeschooling is not
(11:25):
as well known or they don't even know it's an
option in their state. With that being said, how do
you introduce that to those that are a little curious
or want to get started in really taking on the
task of educating our children.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Well, homeschooling was very very important.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
In our family, but it has been I finished homeschooling
our children in two thousand and seven, so it has
been a long time since I have been actively and
involved in it, although I'm surrounded by many homeschooling families.
But I would say that again, don't compare yourself. Don't
(12:15):
think that you have to do it exactly like this
or exactly like that, because.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I did that. I did that, and I many of.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Us start out trying to bring public school home, and
that is that doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It doesn't work. It's also just.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
There's so many advantages to homeschooling that you lose if
you try to do that. Also, recognize not only are
you created uniquely by God, your children are each uniquely created.
So homeschooling allows you to encourage their giftedness and encourage
(13:05):
them to find out what are their passions. And I
love the idea of passions and each of your children
God's put passions in that and they're going to be different.
They're going to be different from yours, and they're going
to be different from each other's. But you can do
(13:27):
in our day and age, you can do tons of
research to find out and it is important to find
out what your state laws are. You probably have a
state homeschooling association that you could contact and find out
what the laws are. But find out what they are
(13:48):
and then don't worry about too much. I recommend reading
aloud to your children. If you can make your children
lovers of learning, you will have succeeded, because whatever you
teach them, there's going to be gaps. But if they
(14:09):
loved learning and know how to find out the information
they can keep learning for the rest of their lives.
And then I really recommend being a lover of books
and reading. And how we nurtured that was to do reading.
We had a literature based timeline approach to our schooling,
(14:33):
and so it was we would take one hundred years
a century and find out who lived during that century,
and we would read biographies. And there are certain book series.
Childhood of Famous Americans was one of them that we
just was so so good, and the best literature is
(14:53):
interesting to an adult reading it to the children as well,
and we would often save the book reading to our
evenings so that my husband could be.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
And when you are reading together, you're thinking later about
those things, but you're all together and it was just
a rich, rich time. And then you learn about the culture.
You bring in so many aspects of learning when you read.
You learn about the culture of that person wherever they lived.
(15:27):
You learn about science often, you learn the words in
vocabulary as enlarged by reading, and just so many things.
And then you can assign at different levels of your
children's ages a sign they could maybe just tell you narrate, well,
what was that story about or what was your favorite part,
(15:50):
and they can tell it back to you. Older children
can write a short report on it. You can use
that as your spelling list. And I'm giving you way
more than you know, but this is this is how
you can incorporate and make it fun and then find out, well,
this child really My daughter, for example, seemed attracted to
(16:14):
tragedies and she was in grade school, but she loved
learning about the Titanic. And then she you know, we
were in a homeschool if you have a homeschool association
or a consultant maybe in your area, and we had
a consultant and a group that required our children to
(16:35):
write a report each year with footnotes and references. And
so she wrote about Annie Oakley one year, and she
wrote about the Titanic, you know, and she They're going
to have interests and if you can then foster those,
(16:56):
you'll see them just light up and you will be
encouraging God's work in their lives to become who they
will be as adults. And I could go on and on.
We had so much fun at homeschooling.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But if you can.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Remember one thing, your homeschool is different than anyone else's Yes,
there are laws, but don't let them cage you in
and just enjoy being together and don't worry about finishing.
(17:38):
You know, if you use workbooks, don't worry about finishing them.
So I just encourage you to be creative and pursue
your passions.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And I love how you're saying, give yourself permission to
not formulate your homeschool with the same rigidity that public
school has, and that it's we have to teach this today,
we have to take this quiz today, we have to
take the test today. Because it's homeschool. You have the
permission to have a half a day on Monday and
(18:12):
a full day on Tuesday, and maybe some extra stuff
on Wednesday, to go on that field trip, to go
to the park, to maybe not have school on Thursday
because you want to have it on Saturday instead. Absolutely,
just to have that fluidity there and not put yourself
in that cage. I love that, and I think for
so many people that's what they're afraid of, Like you said,
(18:35):
you know, they're trying to make public school there, or
the way that we even do things in corporate America,
the way that they do things for the for the
whole school and do it the way that best suits
your family. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Now one more thoughts, I just want to say too
that don't make your child sit at a desk.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
My son's best pasture for.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Doing his work was down on you know, one knee,
one knee up and one knee down, and you know,
and he was a left hand. And I tried to
make him sit at a desk and write, and.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
You know, didn't work.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
All of life is learning. You can go outside and
examine the bugs and the grass. You can go, like
you said, on a field trip. Our vacations in the
summer became a learning experience. And then they would you know,
take pictures right or report afterwards.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And absolutely I love it. Now let's switch to mom.
So many times, as women, we have to figure out
how do we deal with the rhyme and the rhythm
of the busyness, uh, the organized chaos and the occasional
oo oohs that happened along our days. How do you
(19:52):
encourage women to find that anchor in spirit as far
as their connection with God and being able to utilize
that piece those scriptures that really sue our souls to
encourage them to be anchored in that and to allow
that to lead them and guide them through the day.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That is an awesome question. And anchor anchoring your soul,
that's a wonderful phrase. So I talk a lot about
being in the Bible and not beating yourself up about it.
It's a relationship with God, and there are very many
(20:36):
creative ways where you can fit time in the Word
of God into your life, in the ebb and flow
of your days, and to just relax about it and
get to know God. And if you really want to
get to know God and you really want to spend
time in his word, he will help you. And then
(21:01):
maybe it means you're putting up scripture around your house
on three by five cards. I really recommend that, and
then your children see that as well. Maybe it means
while your children are if your home's going, while you're
eating lunch, maybe you're reading the Bible while they're eating.
You're both getting the word of God. Maybe you're listening
(21:23):
to the Word of God. I use Biblegateway dot com
and you've got the different versions and so forth. And
I'm a King James girl. But you can listen to
scriptures and you can put your earbuds in and you know,
so you're not You can do it anytime of the
day or night.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Some people.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
There have been times in my life in the last
few years where I've gotten up in the middle of
the night. I've gone to bed earlier, gotten up.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
In the middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
You do what you works for you, and it's not
all always going to look the same.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, and that's okay. And to again give yourself grace.
Don't be beating yourself up with shoulds.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Don't be looking at other people and going, well, I
don't do it like that. Do not let other people's
way of studying the Bible, their prayer life, their relationship
with God, because you're uniquely created and there are no
two people whose relationships are the same, right, And so
(22:31):
your relationship, doctor Angela with God, my relationship with God,
those are different, aren't they. Yeah, And everyone's is different
and that's okay. So I you know, just giving yourself
grace and permission. And then time blocking is so when
(22:54):
I learned to time block, it was, you know, like
the usual saying. You know, I learned many years ago
about the concept of margin, and that's the white like
the white space on the page around the black print,
(23:14):
and your life has to have margin.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
And I talk.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
About planning a schedule, having a plan, that's that, how
do I say it? All of a sudden, I blinked,
I have a blog post about this. But planning for
interruptions because they will happen. If you are so rigidly
(23:39):
and you're not giving yourself any margin between things, and
you're rigidly scheduling your day, you're going to be miserable
and you won't achieve. You can't because there will be interruptions,
there will be things that happen. And so you know,
having a block, I plan a week, day time. I
(24:00):
usually plan on the weekend or Friday or Saturday so
that I'm ready. So if I need to make preparations,
I can before Monday and then have a schedule for
the week that has blocks, and then have a stop
time and free time. So I'm not planning every evening
(24:22):
something maybe two nights a week. Homeschool moms don't plan
every second or every evening, You're going to be miserable.
And just to really step back and not expect that
you can do everything you can't And then the time
blocks you talked about going on a field trip, or
(24:44):
something comes up that's fun, or you have a gloriously
beautiful day all of a sudden and.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
You had planned to do all this scho work in
the house, Well you can move that block over here.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Absolutely, absolutely, I love it.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
That's so important.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, yeah, just learning how to do what you have
to do in being organized, but also just giving yourself
the permission to be as flexible as you need to
be in any given situation. And you are, and you
are so right. I have suggested to some of my
clients who this idea is new to them, and I said, okay,
(25:29):
so what I want you to do for the remainder
of the month is set your Apple watch so that
you can have that moment where it reminds you to
stand up. So when it says stand up, I want
you to physically stand up, but I also want you
to move. I want you to go get some water,
go get some tea, some coffee, walk to someone else's desk,
(25:51):
just check in with them. But have that moment where
you take that break to break the cycle so that
you give your brain the time that it needs to
reset itself and then go back to that task. And
that is a very simple, easy way of getting used
to having that permission to do this now, but to
(26:15):
do that later, or to do nothing at all. I
love that you remember to schedule that. Well, here is
my last question for you. Out of all of the
many hats that you wear, author is also one of them.
And you have written the book Serving from the Heart.
I love that title. Tell us a little bit about
(26:37):
the book.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Well, it is a compilation, and I am one of
the authors in it, but it is a best selling book,
Serving from the Heart. And my chapter talks about how.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You lead yourself first.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And so John Maxwell, if you're familiar with him, talks
a lot about leadership, and he talks about that if
you are an effective leader, you don't say.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Go go climb that mountain. Go, you know, I'll stand
here and cheer you on. No, you go.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Up, and then you turn and you help them come
up behind you.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And so you.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Need to lead yourself first. And I have tried, like
I said in this interview, to exemplify that, and God
is continually teaching me new insights in that.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
But it tells it.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Goes into a deeper story, the story of my literal
miraculous healing from a variant cancer and the things that
I learned through that, and then how God used that
to help me begin to set really big goals and
how to achieve those goals. And oh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I love it. It sounds like such a good read,
and no wonder it is a bestseller. I love that.
Congratulations on you and all of your fellow authors there. Well,
Madibi are out of a time, but I know that
someone wants to be able to follow up with you,
to follow what you're doing, and to meet and greet
with you on socials. With that being said, what is
(28:23):
the best way to reach out to you and to
stay current with what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Well, thank you, doctor Angela. It's been wonderful to be here,
and I'm going to give you. I have two freebies. Actually,
if you identify with that Christian mom and homeschooler, or
you are a busy Christian entrepreneur who would love to
be more consistent. I have a free checklist for consistent
(28:52):
daily routines and that you can find at your home
for God, Why oh you are h O M E
F O R G O D dot com Slash checklists
DASH B M O L which stands for busy mom,
organized life. So that's your room for God dot com
(29:13):
Slash checklists.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Dash B M O L.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And that gives you two a morning and an evening
checklist that you can start to have consistent routines. And
then my freebe for you as a Christian woman entrepreneurial
person is the seven habits of high impact Christian Women
(29:38):
leaders and that you can find at the t E.
Wendy Gun with two ends dot com slash number seven
Dash Habits v. Wendygun dot com Slash seven dash Habits.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I love it. Thank you again, Wendy for being a
guest here on Passioneer Magazine the Podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Thank you for listening to Passioneer Magazine the Podcast
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Are You A Charlotte?
In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.