October 6, 2025 • 23 mins
As a Book Author and Songwriter for over 22 years, my career is a testament to the power of words and music in community engagement and personal growth. My "Children of Plains Estates" series has established a legacy of addressing social issues, while my songwriting has become a medium for expressing the collective human experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Passioneer Magazine, the podcast Well You're here, inspirational stories,
encouraging news, and in depth interviews with authors, influencers, CEOs
and thought leaders. Passioneer Magazine the podcast Bold Ideas, Brave Pursuits,
Boundless Inspiration.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hello, Hello, Hello, thank you so much for joining me
here on Passioneer Magazine the Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I am so happy to have you. Good at evening.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I am so happy to be here and to be
speaking with you, and thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Absolutely, absolutely, Now, anytime we can share our platform with
women that are doing great and amazing things, we definitely
want to do that. Now, before we get started, I
realized that some people that are listening or watching are
definitely familiar with you, but there may be some folks
(01:15):
that were introducing you to them for the very first time.
With that being said, tell us a little bit about yourself.
What makes you you?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
First about My name is Claude Milner. I am a author.
I'm also a speaker, a songwriter, a workshop facilitator and
a mother, grandmother. My passion is my love for God
and being able to give a voice to children, to you,
(01:50):
and that is that's my passion.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh, I love that. I love that, and you know,
I find that people who especially work with the youth,
they have such a big heart. You know, they really
understand what the assignment is when it comes to our
kids or to our young people, because you really have
(02:16):
to be in a space to be able to help
guide them and lead them to listen, but also advise,
you know, all of the various ways that you have
to really pour into them.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And of course those who work with women and at
our various stages, of course, that's awesome, an amazing thing
that we do. So I'm so glad that you are
doing that work as well. Now, one of the things
that you do, and please excuse me for looking down,
I want to make sure that I get the names
of the projects that you do, correct and empowerment, maximizing
(02:53):
your gifts and talents to honor God. First of all,
I love the title. Right that does something that I
I would definitely pay attention to. You guide your participants
through identifying their God given strengths. That is so important.
Why was it important for you to make sure that
(03:17):
this idea, this project became something that was available for others.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
It started out actually I worked with the Poor People's Campaign,
and at the beginning of the year, I always do
Daniels Fast, and then I opened my mind to be
able to receive my destiny or my purpose, my journey
for the year. And one of the questions was how
(03:48):
are you going to get through this year because of
the current administration and your personal journey? And I said,
I was going to listen to the Holy Spirit and
I was going to empower myself. I go over to
(04:09):
the service on Sunday morning and the minister is saying,
empower yourself. And I thought about it and I left,
and it was a series of five events. I said,
God said pin it, and I said, okay. But I
(04:29):
knew I had to expand it because once you empower yourself,
you know who you are in Christ, and then you
can identify your purpose and walk that journey. And so
it was very important for other people to learn what
I learned, because it took me a long journey between
(04:57):
John three sixteen Jeremiah one in five because I did
not realize that I knew it, but because of comments
by my parents and comments by others, I did not
receive that I was a child of the King and
(05:21):
that he had set my purpose and I was worthy.
So I continue to try to please man. And I
think the instrumental thing for this discussion is trying to
value yourself as God values you, because then when you
(05:43):
want your journey.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It is so different.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And so that's why the message is so important, because
many people are still searching, but they're searching one without healing,
two searching for a place they're trying. They're valuing man's
work in seat of God's worth. And that's why the
(06:10):
message is so important because we have critical work to do,
especially as women, We have critical work to do in
this next year, and we cannot put our hands over
our eyes and wait three and a half years to
get our rights back. We just cannot do that. So
(06:32):
we must step up to the plate. We must identify,
build our relationship with God so that we can listen
to the Holy Spirit and we could act on what
God has us acting on and we could make the
correct decisions because our decisions.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Are not worldly, they are godly.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
M m oh, I love that you know in making
sure that we are the best people that we have
been called to be by God. And you definitely said
a mouthful. There there are so many people that are
operating from that place of hurt, from that place of
lack simply because they have not been poured into you
(07:18):
are so right there. But they want to be whole,
they want to be filled. So programs like this are
definitely needed on every level. And shout out to to
those that are making sure that that is happening, So
bravo for them. Now you also, you didn't just start
(07:39):
with adults or that particular phase or stage. You also
are making sure that the that the youth have a
program for them as well. And your youth workshop is
called the rejuvenation of the Church. Meeting the needs of
our youth. I love it. The needs of our youth.
They vary depending on where they are in the world,
(08:02):
the age of the young person, and so many different attributes.
One of the things you do is also make sure
that there is mentoring that they understand the importance of
that as well. Tell us about that workshop that you
have also.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Mentoring.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
The workshops that I do are there are four young
people workshops, and in those workshops we try to look
at The one workshop that I recently gay to youth
was a workshop where they were dealing with stereotypes like
(08:44):
A young lady comes into church, and she comes in
and she has blue hair, and she wants to come
because her friend is always happy. She wants to know
the Jesus that she knows well she gets, and of
course the church obstracizes her form blue hair, and she
(09:05):
goes back and she looks at her friend and she says,
I don't want to know the Jesus you serve if
he's at that church. And so I have them get
in groups and redo the skit the way Jesus would
(09:26):
have wrote it, the way David would have wrote it,
so that they understand that they have created a PTSD
moment for someone in church who will consistently use that. No,
I'm not going to church for you because I don't
want to be ostracized. I don't want to be treated
(09:46):
that way. And another one of the workshops that I
do for youth is where I have them take their
special character and a lot of the women use Esther
and I asked them, I said, put that in twenty
first century, and tell me give me your impression of
(10:10):
what would have happened if you were asked to give
up all of that wealth and everything to save your people, right,
and we did an exercise one night and it was
like it just came to me. I'm teaching vacation Bible school,
(10:33):
and all of a sudden, I said, what would you
give up for twenty four hours for Jesus? And they
were like, Oh, I'll give up the telephone, and I'll
give up my computer, and I'll give up. And we
came back the next day and one girl said, I
gave up the phone, and she said how could you
give up the phone? And her friend when you were
(10:55):
talking to me? And I looked at them very scared,
and I said, I'm sorry, What if God.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Said that to you?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
What if he said I'm not going to the cross
because I've got to make a cell phone call. I said,
you have to think about those particular things, but you've
come up with We did Paul and Stylas and it
was so hilarious because when the earthquake came, everybody was there.
(11:35):
I was in handcuffs, couldn't get out of the handcuffs
because there were real handcuffs, and my partner was a
police officer, so we they had to get me out.
And then this young lady ran out of the out
of the room and I said, didn't you read the
scripture It says nobody moved, And she said, it's called it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
This is now. I went for it.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You couldn't get out of the handcuffs and the earthquake
went off and I rolled on down the street. But
they learn to My job was to equate the scripture
with their life, their current, so that they could see
now mentoring. I mentored a team of teenagers for my
(12:26):
radio show and my film company.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But when I mentor, I put restrictions.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
They had to have a three point five or better
great GPA. They could not be late for a session,
they couldn't be late on the radio. It was guidelines
because I believe that you never lowered expectations. If they
didn't have the three point five, they had a semester
to bring it up. So when you mentor kids, you
(12:57):
have to understand that you don't expectations. You keep the
bar up and you give them the opportunity to beat
those expectations.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh, that is such a growing opportunity for the kids
to really understand what real life is is like.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
And you're right when you're on the radio.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Boy, is it important to know where you are in
time and space? You know people, I often tell folks,
you know, listen, I realize that this.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Is not your job.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
We're doing a radio interview. But I know that you're
not a timelinder, like you don't even feel how.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Long you've been speaking. Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I will help keep you, you know, within that time,
because there are certain things that we have to hit
at certain times within our program. So you are you
are so right, just the punctuality of it of it
all the radio part I can definitely speak on so
important and you know, shout out to guys and gals
in blue. I have several in my family. Thank you
(14:06):
for all of the work that you do. And I'm
sure that was quite interesting when you couldn't get the
handcuffs off and it's like, oh my goodness, what do
we do? Where is the key? But what a great
way to show the young people as well. You know
how to deal with adversity and when things don't go
as planned, how do you make sure that things still
(14:27):
work out for the best. So I love that now,
speaking of the things that you do, you have these
empowerment workshops, and I love that you teach the participants
to reflect on the things that have happened in their
lives to be able to rearticulate it as a witness
(14:50):
or as a praise report. With that being said, has
there been a particular share over the years that you
have been doing this that really stuck with you? That
was I like to call them those God moments where
you knew that, yep, this was only by the grace
of God.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I've had a lot of personal things, and I talk
about those because I want people. I always want to
be transparent and I want to be transpared with people
because you have ups and downs, and when you're in
a workshop, people will question when you're saying things like
(15:37):
counted all joy when you followed diverse temptations right.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And at one point we were.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
In a workshop and a woman was talking and she
broke down in tears, and she said, how can you
tell me that, How can you say counted all joy?
Because because I'm still hurting.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
She had been abused.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I did my visa tour in domestic violence and legal laid,
and so I've been trained to deal with domestic violence
situations and sexual assault. However, she was upset with God.
And there's nothing more passionate than someone who thinks that
(16:32):
God has per sected them that God has left them.
And when you mentioned domestic violence or you mentioned abuse,
the damn breaks, especially when you're in a group of women,
and when you're in a group of women that have
been told that what happens at home stays at home.
(16:56):
We have not been able to break the seal type
of Now we have the wee moment, and we all
see what women are going through because they choose to
talk about it. But these we only hear the glamorous stories.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
We only hear the actresses, but we don't hear the
everyday story of women.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
And so at this point I'm teaching about the love
and compassion of God and my audience it's not they're
not finding it, they're not buying it because the damn
has broke, and they began to talk.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
And the only.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Way that we were able to work through this and
come back to the relationship with God was people began
to testify. People began to say, yes, I was in
that situation, but by the grace of God, I'm no
longer in that situation, and this is what I did,
(18:03):
this is what I did. And then we ended by
having personal meetings where I referred them to mental health
counselors that I knew because we have to have to heal.
I went through healing myself. I went through counseling myself,
(18:25):
so I understand that dynamic. And it's so important for
our children. And I want to say this because we
are sometimes embarrassed that our children have mental health issues.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
We don't want.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Them to be excluded from basketball or singing or whatever
because they're on medication or anxiety. Please, please, please do
not hinder your child's mental health journey because.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
You are embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
To tell their story or to allow them to tell
their story. They must heal, They must heal.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
M Oh, you said such important nuggets of wisdom there
as as a pastoral counselor, I could not agree with
you more so many times I am receiving some of
the people that have gone through your program and then
they're ready for the next step, or they want to
do something long term, or they need that next thing.
(19:39):
And like you said, when you seek out professional help,
and you are so right, so many people are afraid.
And I have found that for some they are afraid
if they move on, it means that it invalidates the trauma.
It invalidates the pain. That you're saying, what happened to
me is okay, and they need the permission to learn that.
(20:00):
We're not saying that it was okay. Well, we're saying
that it is okay that you come back to life,
that you are able to lead your life the way
that God intended, and you take the lessons that you
have learned along the way that hurt that you felt.
You're going to empower someone else when you give your
praise report that yeah, I held on to or for
a long time, but look at what God has gotten
(20:22):
me through. So you are so right there. There are
so many professionals that can continue to help, be it
that they are at stage one or they are at
stage last. I love that you are providing this service
for women no matter where you are in the walk,
Go to a program, see someone who is able to
(20:45):
assist you. You are so right there. And oh yes,
please stop not allowing your children to be exactly who
they're supposed to be. If they are supposed to do
a something else, allow them to do that something and
have that as part of their praise report as an adult,
you are You're so right. I love, love, love what
(21:07):
you're doing. This is why I wanted to have you
on this show, because you are empowering people at various
stages of their lives, and we need to make sure
that people are aware of workshops, webinars, programs at every
level so that people are able to step in, stop
being hurt, stop being stuck, but walk into their new
(21:31):
life and with their as their best possible self. I
love that, Oh my goodness, I absolutely love that you
are really making sure that no matter where we are
along our life's journey, that we are able to assist
those that need the assistance, be it that it is mentoring, listening,
(21:54):
or just providing a resource to let someone know where
it is that they need to go. You do a
whole host of things, and we just do not have
enough time today to talk about it all. So I
know that people are going to want to reach out
not just for the workshops, but for the books that
you have written and for the upcoming things that you
have as well. With that being said, if someone wants
(22:16):
to reach out to you, what is the best way
to do that.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
The best way to reach me is my website which
is www dot cloudimilner dot com. I am on all
major social media. I might have book clubs settle meetings
with me, and then I drop into your book club meeting,
(22:44):
and it doesn't cost you anything. It's just a way
that if you're struggling through the book and you're trying
to figure it out, you don't have to figure it
out yourself. You just contact me through my website and
I will schedule to come to your book signing, either
personally or I'll come to your events.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I love that. That is so awesome. So I love
how you are able to interact with those that are
not only following you, but you're able to do those
in person events throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I must cloud it. I have enjoyed my conversation with you.
I always am so inspired by what women continue to
do to empower women, and you are an inspiration to
me and to so many others as well. Keep doing
what you are doing, keep being a passioneer. Thank you
so much for joining me here on the show today.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Thank you you have a good weekning absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Thank you for listening to Passioneer Magazine. The podcast
Welcome to Passioneer Magazine, the podcast Well You're here, inspirational stories,
encouraging news, and in depth interviews with authors, influencers, CEOs
and thought leaders. Passioneer Magazine the podcast Bold Ideas, Brave Pursuits,
Boundless Inspiration.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hello, Hello, Hello, thank you so much for joining me
here on Passioneer Magazine the Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I am so happy to have you. Good at evening.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I am so happy to be here and to be
speaking with you, and thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Absolutely, absolutely, Now, anytime we can share our platform with
women that are doing great and amazing things, we definitely
want to do that. Now, before we get started, I
realized that some people that are listening or watching are
definitely familiar with you, but there may be some folks
(01:15):
that were introducing you to them for the very first time.
With that being said, tell us a little bit about yourself.
What makes you you?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
First about My name is Claude Milner. I am a author.
I'm also a speaker, a songwriter, a workshop facilitator and
a mother, grandmother. My passion is my love for God
and being able to give a voice to children, to you,
(01:50):
and that is that's my passion.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh, I love that. I love that, and you know,
I find that people who especially work with the youth,
they have such a big heart. You know, they really
understand what the assignment is when it comes to our
kids or to our young people, because you really have
(02:16):
to be in a space to be able to help
guide them and lead them to listen, but also advise,
you know, all of the various ways that you have
to really pour into them.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And of course those who work with women and at
our various stages, of course, that's awesome, an amazing thing
that we do. So I'm so glad that you are
doing that work as well. Now, one of the things
that you do, and please excuse me for looking down,
I want to make sure that I get the names
of the projects that you do, correct and empowerment, maximizing
(02:53):
your gifts and talents to honor God. First of all,
I love the title. Right that does something that I
I would definitely pay attention to. You guide your participants
through identifying their God given strengths. That is so important.
Why was it important for you to make sure that
(03:17):
this idea, this project became something that was available for others.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
It started out actually I worked with the Poor People's Campaign,
and at the beginning of the year, I always do
Daniels Fast, and then I opened my mind to be
able to receive my destiny or my purpose, my journey
for the year. And one of the questions was how
(03:48):
are you going to get through this year because of
the current administration and your personal journey? And I said,
I was going to listen to the Holy Spirit and
I was going to empower myself. I go over to
(04:09):
the service on Sunday morning and the minister is saying,
empower yourself. And I thought about it and I left,
and it was a series of five events. I said,
God said pin it, and I said, okay. But I
(04:29):
knew I had to expand it because once you empower yourself,
you know who you are in Christ, and then you
can identify your purpose and walk that journey. And so
it was very important for other people to learn what
I learned, because it took me a long journey between
(04:57):
John three sixteen Jeremiah one in five because I did
not realize that I knew it, but because of comments
by my parents and comments by others, I did not
receive that I was a child of the King and
(05:21):
that he had set my purpose and I was worthy.
So I continue to try to please man. And I
think the instrumental thing for this discussion is trying to
value yourself as God values you, because then when you
(05:43):
want your journey.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It is so different.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And so that's why the message is so important, because
many people are still searching, but they're searching one without healing,
two searching for a place they're trying. They're valuing man's
work in seat of God's worth. And that's why the
(06:10):
message is so important because we have critical work to do,
especially as women, We have critical work to do in
this next year, and we cannot put our hands over
our eyes and wait three and a half years to
get our rights back. We just cannot do that. So
(06:32):
we must step up to the plate. We must identify,
build our relationship with God so that we can listen
to the Holy Spirit and we could act on what
God has us acting on and we could make the
correct decisions because our decisions.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Are not worldly, they are godly.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
M m oh, I love that you know in making
sure that we are the best people that we have
been called to be by God. And you definitely said
a mouthful. There there are so many people that are
operating from that place of hurt, from that place of
lack simply because they have not been poured into you
(07:18):
are so right there. But they want to be whole,
they want to be filled. So programs like this are
definitely needed on every level. And shout out to to
those that are making sure that that is happening, So
bravo for them. Now you also, you didn't just start
(07:39):
with adults or that particular phase or stage. You also
are making sure that the that the youth have a
program for them as well. And your youth workshop is
called the rejuvenation of the Church. Meeting the needs of
our youth. I love it. The needs of our youth.
They vary depending on where they are in the world,
(08:02):
the age of the young person, and so many different attributes.
One of the things you do is also make sure
that there is mentoring that they understand the importance of
that as well. Tell us about that workshop that you
have also.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Mentoring.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
The workshops that I do are there are four young
people workshops, and in those workshops we try to look
at The one workshop that I recently gay to youth
was a workshop where they were dealing with stereotypes like
(08:44):
A young lady comes into church, and she comes in
and she has blue hair, and she wants to come
because her friend is always happy. She wants to know
the Jesus that she knows well she gets, and of
course the church obstracizes her form blue hair, and she
(09:05):
goes back and she looks at her friend and she says,
I don't want to know the Jesus you serve if
he's at that church. And so I have them get
in groups and redo the skit the way Jesus would
(09:26):
have wrote it, the way David would have wrote it,
so that they understand that they have created a PTSD
moment for someone in church who will consistently use that. No,
I'm not going to church for you because I don't
want to be ostracized. I don't want to be treated
(09:46):
that way. And another one of the workshops that I
do for youth is where I have them take their
special character and a lot of the women use Esther
and I asked them, I said, put that in twenty
first century, and tell me give me your impression of
(10:10):
what would have happened if you were asked to give
up all of that wealth and everything to save your people, right,
and we did an exercise one night and it was
like it just came to me. I'm teaching vacation Bible school,
(10:33):
and all of a sudden, I said, what would you
give up for twenty four hours for Jesus? And they
were like, Oh, I'll give up the telephone, and I'll
give up my computer, and I'll give up. And we
came back the next day and one girl said, I
gave up the phone, and she said how could you
give up the phone? And her friend when you were
(10:55):
talking to me? And I looked at them very scared,
and I said, I'm sorry, What if God.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Said that to you?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
What if he said I'm not going to the cross
because I've got to make a cell phone call. I said,
you have to think about those particular things, but you've
come up with We did Paul and Stylas and it
was so hilarious because when the earthquake came, everybody was there.
(11:35):
I was in handcuffs, couldn't get out of the handcuffs
because there were real handcuffs, and my partner was a
police officer, so we they had to get me out.
And then this young lady ran out of the out
of the room and I said, didn't you read the
scripture It says nobody moved, And she said, it's called it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
This is now. I went for it.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You couldn't get out of the handcuffs and the earthquake
went off and I rolled on down the street. But
they learn to My job was to equate the scripture
with their life, their current, so that they could see
now mentoring. I mentored a team of teenagers for my
(12:26):
radio show and my film company.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But when I mentor, I put restrictions.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
They had to have a three point five or better
great GPA. They could not be late for a session,
they couldn't be late on the radio. It was guidelines
because I believe that you never lowered expectations. If they
didn't have the three point five, they had a semester
to bring it up. So when you mentor kids, you
(12:57):
have to understand that you don't expectations. You keep the
bar up and you give them the opportunity to beat
those expectations.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh, that is such a growing opportunity for the kids
to really understand what real life is is like.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
And you're right when you're on the radio.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Boy, is it important to know where you are in
time and space? You know people, I often tell folks,
you know, listen, I realize that this.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Is not your job.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
We're doing a radio interview. But I know that you're
not a timelinder, like you don't even feel how.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Long you've been speaking. Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I will help keep you, you know, within that time,
because there are certain things that we have to hit
at certain times within our program. So you are you
are so right, just the punctuality of it of it
all the radio part I can definitely speak on so
important and you know, shout out to guys and gals
in blue. I have several in my family. Thank you
(14:06):
for all of the work that you do. And I'm
sure that was quite interesting when you couldn't get the
handcuffs off and it's like, oh my goodness, what do
we do? Where is the key? But what a great
way to show the young people as well. You know
how to deal with adversity and when things don't go
as planned, how do you make sure that things still
(14:27):
work out for the best. So I love that now,
speaking of the things that you do, you have these
empowerment workshops, and I love that you teach the participants
to reflect on the things that have happened in their
lives to be able to rearticulate it as a witness
(14:50):
or as a praise report. With that being said, has
there been a particular share over the years that you
have been doing this that really stuck with you? That
was I like to call them those God moments where
you knew that, yep, this was only by the grace
of God.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I've had a lot of personal things, and I talk
about those because I want people. I always want to
be transparent and I want to be transpared with people
because you have ups and downs, and when you're in
a workshop, people will question when you're saying things like
(15:37):
counted all joy when you followed diverse temptations right.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And at one point we were.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
In a workshop and a woman was talking and she
broke down in tears, and she said, how can you
tell me that, How can you say counted all joy?
Because because I'm still hurting.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
She had been abused.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I did my visa tour in domestic violence and legal laid,
and so I've been trained to deal with domestic violence
situations and sexual assault. However, she was upset with God.
And there's nothing more passionate than someone who thinks that
(16:32):
God has per sected them that God has left them.
And when you mentioned domestic violence or you mentioned abuse,
the damn breaks, especially when you're in a group of women,
and when you're in a group of women that have
been told that what happens at home stays at home.
(16:56):
We have not been able to break the seal type
of Now we have the wee moment, and we all
see what women are going through because they choose to
talk about it. But these we only hear the glamorous stories.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
We only hear the actresses, but we don't hear the
everyday story of women.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
And so at this point I'm teaching about the love
and compassion of God and my audience it's not they're
not finding it, they're not buying it because the damn
has broke, and they began to talk.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
And the only.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Way that we were able to work through this and
come back to the relationship with God was people began
to testify. People began to say, yes, I was in
that situation, but by the grace of God, I'm no
longer in that situation, and this is what I did,
(18:03):
this is what I did. And then we ended by
having personal meetings where I referred them to mental health
counselors that I knew because we have to have to heal.
I went through healing myself. I went through counseling myself,
(18:25):
so I understand that dynamic. And it's so important for
our children. And I want to say this because we
are sometimes embarrassed that our children have mental health issues.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
We don't want.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Them to be excluded from basketball or singing or whatever
because they're on medication or anxiety. Please, please, please do
not hinder your child's mental health journey because.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
You are embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
To tell their story or to allow them to tell
their story. They must heal, They must heal.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
M Oh, you said such important nuggets of wisdom there
as as a pastoral counselor, I could not agree with
you more so many times I am receiving some of
the people that have gone through your program and then
they're ready for the next step, or they want to
do something long term, or they need that next thing.
(19:39):
And like you said, when you seek out professional help,
and you are so right, so many people are afraid.
And I have found that for some they are afraid
if they move on, it means that it invalidates the trauma.
It invalidates the pain. That you're saying, what happened to
me is okay, and they need the permission to learn that.
(20:00):
We're not saying that it was okay. Well, we're saying
that it is okay that you come back to life,
that you are able to lead your life the way
that God intended, and you take the lessons that you
have learned along the way that hurt that you felt.
You're going to empower someone else when you give your
praise report that yeah, I held on to or for
a long time, but look at what God has gotten
(20:22):
me through. So you are so right there. There are
so many professionals that can continue to help, be it
that they are at stage one or they are at
stage last. I love that you are providing this service
for women no matter where you are in the walk,
Go to a program, see someone who is able to
(20:45):
assist you. You are so right there. And oh yes,
please stop not allowing your children to be exactly who
they're supposed to be. If they are supposed to do
a something else, allow them to do that something and
have that as part of their praise report as an adult,
you are You're so right. I love, love, love what
(21:07):
you're doing. This is why I wanted to have you
on this show, because you are empowering people at various
stages of their lives, and we need to make sure
that people are aware of workshops, webinars, programs at every
level so that people are able to step in, stop
being hurt, stop being stuck, but walk into their new
(21:31):
life and with their as their best possible self. I
love that, Oh my goodness, I absolutely love that you
are really making sure that no matter where we are
along our life's journey, that we are able to assist
those that need the assistance, be it that it is mentoring, listening,
(21:54):
or just providing a resource to let someone know where
it is that they need to go. You do a
whole host of things, and we just do not have
enough time today to talk about it all. So I
know that people are going to want to reach out
not just for the workshops, but for the books that
you have written and for the upcoming things that you
have as well. With that being said, if someone wants
(22:16):
to reach out to you, what is the best way
to do that.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
The best way to reach me is my website which
is www dot cloudimilner dot com. I am on all
major social media. I might have book clubs settle meetings
with me, and then I drop into your book club meeting,
(22:44):
and it doesn't cost you anything. It's just a way
that if you're struggling through the book and you're trying
to figure it out, you don't have to figure it
out yourself. You just contact me through my website and
I will schedule to come to your book signing, either
personally or I'll come to your events.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I love that. That is so awesome. So I love
how you are able to interact with those that are
not only following you, but you're able to do those
in person events throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I must cloud it. I have enjoyed my conversation with you.
I always am so inspired by what women continue to
do to empower women, and you are an inspiration to
me and to so many others as well. Keep doing
what you are doing, keep being a passioneer. Thank you
so much for joining me here on the show today.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Thank you you have a good weekning absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Thank you for listening to Passioneer Magazine. The podcast
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