September 5, 2025 • 17 mins
What does it take to survive three open-heart surgeries and still inspire the world with hope and music? In this unforgettable episode, Joyce H. Hynes shares her extraordinary journey from childhood surgeries to becoming a healer through sound, revealing the power of faith, family, and resilience. Discover the moving story behind Heart of the Matter and how one woman’s unwavering spirit can help us all find strength in our most challenging moments. Tune in for a conversation that will touch your heart and change your perspective.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey is Benji Cole, Son of Alcohol from CBS Radio
and host of the syndicated talk show People of Distinction.
The talk gives you an in depth view of some
of the most dynamic, intelligent, and successful people on the planet.
Run to our website Alcohol Enterprises dot com for more info.
Email me through Benji at Alcohol Enterprises dot com if
you'd like to get involved with what we have going,
(00:30):
and as always, please continue to like and follow our broadcasts.
People of Distinction is internationally syndicated solely due to the
love and support that you all continue to give. We're
available across all major distributors and as long as you
keep following, we're going to continue to put out the content. Now,
sit back and strap in because on the line with
us today we have the impressive choice Ah Hinds, and
(00:53):
we're gonna be discussing her incredible book Heart of the Matter.
It's Amazon, it's Barnes and Noble Man, It's a lot
of other places, but most importantly check out her personal site,
author Joycehhines dot com. There you're gonna gather more information
on her on this book. You're gonna find another book
(01:15):
that she's written. That one is entitled Words from the Maestro.
I'm saying it's a one stop shop. Check it out
author Joycehhines dot com. Yeah, that's where you gotta go
and listen. It is a true pleasure to have Joyce
here on the line. People. What if the very organ
that symbolizes our life and love try to fail you,
(01:37):
not once, but three times? My goodness, listen my guest today.
She was just nine years old when she first went
under the knife for open heart surgery, beginning a lifelong
journey where medical complications were the norm. An unwavering faith
was her currency for survival. Sit back and strap in.
(02:01):
Because Joyce is the absolute embodiment of a person of distinction.
She's a three time open heart surgery survivor, a composer,
and a music practitioner who uses sound to heal others.
In her new book, Heart of the Matter, Man, it
is so much more than a medical memoir. Now we're
(02:22):
gonna learn about her particular journey and how inspirational it
has been. But it is a masterclass in rewriting a
broken narrative with hope. Like I mentioned before, man, sit back,
strap in, This one is going to be incredibly impressive.
Let's dive in. Joyce first and foremost, Welcome to people
(02:42):
of distinction, and thank you very much for being with us.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
How you doing today, I'm doing great, and thanks for
having me, Benji. It's quite a pleasure to be here.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Listen, Joyce. The pleasure is all ours, all right, I'm
gonna pass that right back to you. It is an
honor to have you here. You had to write this
magnificent book in order for us to reach out and
establish it, and we are so glad that you did.
Your book is an eye opening experience, but it's going
to be uplifting and so hopeful for a lot of others.
(03:12):
So we're looking forward to this discussion. Let's start off
at the ground floor. I usually like to ask about
our guests' background so we can learn a little bit
more about them. But this is a memoir, so we're
going to cover your background within the book itself. So
let's jump right in heart of the matter. Tell us
more about it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I started going to John Hopkins at age five in
nineteen fifty seven, when open heart surgery was in its infancy,
But in nineteen sixty one I became the fifteenth patient
to be have open heart surgery, and I spent three
(03:51):
months at John Hopkins and almost didn't make it. I
had to buy this blood poisoning the moment. You know,
the doctors didn't think I was going to survive, but
by the grace of God, I did, and they learned.
They were learning what to do with open heart surgery
at that time. It was in it, like I said,
(04:13):
in its infancy, but I traveled from West Virginia to
John Hopkins. But in the book, because of privacy, I've
changed the hospital, the doctors. But the medical facts in
the book are correct. The journey is mine and it
(04:33):
was a struggle, but I thought that was going to
be the end of it, but it wasn't. But God
gave me the strength to see me through. But the
most amazing thing is I found the notebook that my mother.
She kept a notebook of the three months I was
in the hospital, of a day by day account. And
(04:56):
finding the notebook that's what gave me the opiration to write.
And it was written by every word, by what was
in her heart. And so that's where the theme of
the story came from. Heart of the matter. When I
found it and read it, it just brought tears to
(05:19):
my eyes. It only was a few words at a time,
but she might have said today her temperature was one
hundred and two today. This so it was very moving,
and I knew that I had to get the words
out and to share my story. But that wasn't the
end of it.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No, absolutely, that was just the beginning of this journey.
This is something that, as I said in my opening,
and as readers will come to find, you have gone
under the knife multiple times. So this was just the
precipice of this lifelong journey that you established. Now I
want to go into something you were saying a few
(06:00):
moments before, is because listen, finding this notebook, learning about
these things, these almost personal journal that your mother kept,
I can see the connection on why this is something
that you wanted to now get down in writing. Now,
first and foremost, let me preface my state. Let me
preface the upcoming question by saying, I'm very glad that
(06:21):
you put the book out right like again this. Yes,
we're learning about your journey, but it is inspirational and
it has so much to offer. So I'm glad that
you did. But I want to now go into inspiration here, Joyce,
because listen. Finding all of that got it writing it
down on page for yourself. Yeah, absolutely, I can see
that I'm connecting the dots. But you didn't have to
(06:43):
put it out for the world. So why did you
feel compelled or inspired to publish it so others could
partake in the journey alongside you?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Because giving people hope that they're not alone, that there
are people out there that care, that God is there
to give them strengths and to draw from God and
their faith and families are there. That God gives people
the knowledge and their fingertips to help us and to
(07:18):
learn and to know that we're never alone. I was
given the last write to the Catholic Church because I
wasn't supposed to survive. Wow, they're never alone.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
That is incredible. Okay, so listen. My next question that
I want to go into, and this really connects to memoirs, right,
memoirs autobiographies, when you write them, it requires the author
of that particular journey to revisit profound moments, but in
this instance, profound pain. Right, You're going back and you're
(07:50):
now having to relive a lot of these instances in
your life. I'm curious to know Joyce what was the
most emotionally challenging peace to write in this book and
why was it important to make sure that you included it?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
To know that writing this book, that all of my
family members are gone now, and that to know what
they suffered along with me suffering through this surgery, that
I had to I felt their pain reading the notes
in this book, the Little note Book. I had to
(08:31):
share that with others family members who go through the
same thing with their family who are going through the surgeries,
but not only heart surgeries, but any type of surgery,
especially children.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
People sat listen man, It's Amazon, it's Barnes and Noble.
It's author Joyce H. Hines dot com. This is one
that is going to be a remarkable journey for you
to add to your shelf. This is a gift that
is perfectly suited to give to someone else. Pick up
this amazing book, Heart of the Matter. While you're at it,
look at our other book Words from the Maestro, because
(09:08):
each one of these books have such phenomenal messages that
you're gonna be able to take to the bank and
really builds off of. So head on over there once more.
It's author Joycehheines dot com pick up your copies today, Joyce.
Something that you've already started to go into and I
know is a very big message within the book. It's
(09:28):
the process of a positive attitude, right, the message of
positive attitude, maintaining that positivity, and even in an instances,
finding a silver lining. And that's something that we often
hear about, and I know I've spoken about this a
number of times on previous broadcasts. Like I remember, I
remember when I was much younger, in late teens, early twenties,
(09:51):
when I was in college going through some difficult times.
And I remember because I've always been a very firm
believer in terms of your mentality, have the ability to
shape your reality and listen, I was. I can admit
it now that I was definitely faking it at the time,
but I was very adamant on having and maintaining a
(10:13):
positive attitude. But I like it. It wasn't always easy,
because there was definitely moments where I had to contrive
a positivity in some of my darker moments. In your experience,
was it more about finding that silver lining or forging
one through sheer will and faith?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yes, yes, faith is the top of the line. And
like you said, that positive attitude can get you a
lot easier to your goal than anything. Yes, I was
a bigger musician all my life, and one thing I
can remember is as far as a musical phase is
(10:56):
sometimes be sharp, never be flat. Would always be natural,
and that goes along with that positive attitude. A frown
is a smile that's upside down. All these little positive,
little phrases that you can find getting off on the
wrong side of the bed. No, you get on the get
get out on the bright side. Too much negativity in
(11:19):
the world. We've got to be positive and that carries
us through the day much easier than thinking on the
other side. Yeah, away with our health.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I love what you're saying here, not only as just
the mantra that you brought up. I'm definitely gonna steal
even though I'm not a I don't have a music background,
but it's going to connect to my next question in
the second. But always be sharp, never be flat. I
can't remember the end of it, but just that part,
Oh my god, that's joys. I love it. That's fantastic,
(11:54):
great message, but such a fun play with the words there.
It's a beautiful thing. But and I think the big
thing here is yes, of course, positive attitude, putting yourself
into that correct state of mind. But I also want
to make sure, like people, I get it because in
the moment, it's not as easy, right Like, sometimes you're
(12:14):
overwhelmed with the negativity, with the darkness that's around. And
I also want to make sure that I point out, Listen,
it's okay to forge it sometimes, right Like, it's okay
to fake it a bit, because when you stick with it,
I promise you. Like, one thing that I noticed just
from my own personal experience is yeah, I was faking
it at first, but because I stuck with it and
(12:35):
I was so consistent, Joyce, after a while, like I've
really I started to believe it. It really started to
implement itself and embed itself into my mind where all
of that. It's not like more positive things were happening
around me. I think it was still the exact same,
but I was just recognizing the positivity around me more
(12:57):
because I was looking for it. And that is so
key to all of this. And there's just one note,
right people, there is so much more to get into.
And the next thing that I want to go to
Joyce's I want to touch up a little bit on
that music background of yours, because I know that as
a music practitioner, you understand the healing power of sound,
(13:19):
and I think that is something incredible because also I
can relate to Again, I don't have a music go background,
but again a lot of these things happen when I
was younger, when I was just a hormonal teenager huh,
go figure. But I remember going through moments Joyce, and
it's when I was depressed, like I would put on
either some R and B or whatever, some type of
(13:40):
depressing me and it would help me work through certain
emotions or if I wanted to be up, depending on
the mood of the song that I was listening to,
it would help me through that journey and uplift my
spirits or whatever I wanted to work through. And that's
where I want to go next. Was there a specific
piece of music that you utiliz or maybe even composed
(14:01):
yourself that almost became an anthem for your recovery?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, yes, canon indeed, by I believe it's Oh it's
the most out of Beethoven. But that song resonates inside me.
We each of us has a tone that resonates in us,
and mine is d below middle C and it almost
(14:27):
makes my cells inside me vibrate. And I found that
out as I studied to become a music practitioner. Yeah,
it's fascinating how music I could adjust heart rates and
breathing patterns with one note on my fifty eighth string
hammer dulcimer. That it was fascinating. My specialty was playing
(14:53):
for dying patients, and I also played in the neonatal
unit with newborn babies, helping them relax and mothers in neighbor.
The power of music is incredible. I could go on
for an hour to tell you about that, but it's
(15:17):
just in your soul. Your whole body is music. Your
cells vibrates, you're breathing, your heart beats. It's affected by
stress and all these things. So your heart is the
center your body. And when I have all these heart
issues right now, I have two aneurysms inside me, and
(15:40):
I've had three open hearts and two strokes. But I
take a looking and keep on ticking. I was a
clown and that one of my clown names was TIMEX.
But you keep on going, keep on gooing, because God
is there with you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Joyce, What a fantastic message to close on. I had
other questions that I wanted to go into, but honestly,
that is the most profound ending that we can have
people her book, man like, it is such a reminder,
and it really is a wonderful education, right because it
teaches us that the ultimate repair, I mean, it isn't surgical, right,
(16:19):
it's the profound strength that we forge in our most
broken places. It's such a cliche, and I get it,
but like when we're going through some of our toughest times,
we actually gained the most strength and the wisdom that
we acquire through it is really setting us up for
(16:40):
future battles. And her journey is a powerful reminder that
our challenges don't define us. But now, listen, it's how
we choose to play the music of our lives, right,
and that's what absolutely defines us. This book is so powerful, man, listen.
It's Amazon as, Barnes and Noble. It's author joyceagehis dot com.
(17:02):
I know I don't have to say it because I
know you're already heading on over there and picking it up. Remember,
Heart of the Matter was the anchor for today, but
words from the Maestro. You gotta check it out as well.
Magnificent books to really help you round yourself and build
through it. It starts with these books. Head on over there,
(17:25):
pick it up, Joyce. This has been an absolute honor.
I really do mean that. Thank you once again for
being a guest. People of Distinction, Thank you Benjie.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It was exciting. Go I'd bless you.
Hey is Benji Cole, Son of Alcohol from CBS Radio
and host of the syndicated talk show People of Distinction.
The talk gives you an in depth view of some
of the most dynamic, intelligent, and successful people on the planet.
Run to our website Alcohol Enterprises dot com for more info.
Email me through Benji at Alcohol Enterprises dot com if
you'd like to get involved with what we have going,
(00:30):
and as always, please continue to like and follow our broadcasts.
People of Distinction is internationally syndicated solely due to the
love and support that you all continue to give. We're
available across all major distributors and as long as you
keep following, we're going to continue to put out the content. Now,
sit back and strap in because on the line with
us today we have the impressive choice Ah Hinds, and
(00:53):
we're gonna be discussing her incredible book Heart of the Matter.
It's Amazon, it's Barnes and Noble Man, It's a lot
of other places, but most importantly check out her personal site,
author Joycehhines dot com. There you're gonna gather more information
on her on this book. You're gonna find another book
(01:15):
that she's written. That one is entitled Words from the Maestro.
I'm saying it's a one stop shop. Check it out
author Joycehhines dot com. Yeah, that's where you gotta go
and listen. It is a true pleasure to have Joyce
here on the line. People. What if the very organ
that symbolizes our life and love try to fail you,
(01:37):
not once, but three times? My goodness, listen my guest today.
She was just nine years old when she first went
under the knife for open heart surgery, beginning a lifelong
journey where medical complications were the norm. An unwavering faith
was her currency for survival. Sit back and strap in.
(02:01):
Because Joyce is the absolute embodiment of a person of distinction.
She's a three time open heart surgery survivor, a composer,
and a music practitioner who uses sound to heal others.
In her new book, Heart of the Matter, Man, it
is so much more than a medical memoir. Now we're
(02:22):
gonna learn about her particular journey and how inspirational it
has been. But it is a masterclass in rewriting a
broken narrative with hope. Like I mentioned before, man, sit back,
strap in, This one is going to be incredibly impressive.
Let's dive in. Joyce first and foremost, Welcome to people
(02:42):
of distinction, and thank you very much for being with us.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
How you doing today, I'm doing great, and thanks for
having me, Benji. It's quite a pleasure to be here.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Listen, Joyce. The pleasure is all ours, all right, I'm
gonna pass that right back to you. It is an
honor to have you here. You had to write this
magnificent book in order for us to reach out and
establish it, and we are so glad that you did.
Your book is an eye opening experience, but it's going
to be uplifting and so hopeful for a lot of others.
(03:12):
So we're looking forward to this discussion. Let's start off
at the ground floor. I usually like to ask about
our guests' background so we can learn a little bit
more about them. But this is a memoir, so we're
going to cover your background within the book itself. So
let's jump right in heart of the matter. Tell us
more about it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I started going to John Hopkins at age five in
nineteen fifty seven, when open heart surgery was in its infancy,
But in nineteen sixty one I became the fifteenth patient
to be have open heart surgery, and I spent three
(03:51):
months at John Hopkins and almost didn't make it. I
had to buy this blood poisoning the moment. You know,
the doctors didn't think I was going to survive, but
by the grace of God, I did, and they learned.
They were learning what to do with open heart surgery
at that time. It was in it, like I said,
(04:13):
in its infancy, but I traveled from West Virginia to
John Hopkins. But in the book, because of privacy, I've
changed the hospital, the doctors. But the medical facts in
the book are correct. The journey is mine and it
(04:33):
was a struggle, but I thought that was going to
be the end of it, but it wasn't. But God
gave me the strength to see me through. But the
most amazing thing is I found the notebook that my mother.
She kept a notebook of the three months I was
in the hospital, of a day by day account. And
(04:56):
finding the notebook that's what gave me the opiration to write.
And it was written by every word, by what was
in her heart. And so that's where the theme of
the story came from. Heart of the matter. When I
found it and read it, it just brought tears to
(05:19):
my eyes. It only was a few words at a time,
but she might have said today her temperature was one
hundred and two today. This so it was very moving,
and I knew that I had to get the words
out and to share my story. But that wasn't the
end of it.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No, absolutely, that was just the beginning of this journey.
This is something that, as I said in my opening,
and as readers will come to find, you have gone
under the knife multiple times. So this was just the
precipice of this lifelong journey that you established. Now I
want to go into something you were saying a few
(06:00):
moments before, is because listen, finding this notebook, learning about
these things, these almost personal journal that your mother kept,
I can see the connection on why this is something
that you wanted to now get down in writing. Now,
first and foremost, let me preface my state. Let me
preface the upcoming question by saying, I'm very glad that
(06:21):
you put the book out right like again this. Yes,
we're learning about your journey, but it is inspirational and
it has so much to offer. So I'm glad that
you did. But I want to now go into inspiration here, Joyce,
because listen. Finding all of that got it writing it
down on page for yourself. Yeah, absolutely, I can see
that I'm connecting the dots. But you didn't have to
(06:43):
put it out for the world. So why did you
feel compelled or inspired to publish it so others could
partake in the journey alongside you?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Because giving people hope that they're not alone, that there
are people out there that care, that God is there
to give them strengths and to draw from God and
their faith and families are there. That God gives people
the knowledge and their fingertips to help us and to
(07:18):
learn and to know that we're never alone. I was
given the last write to the Catholic Church because I
wasn't supposed to survive. Wow, they're never alone.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
That is incredible. Okay, so listen. My next question that
I want to go into, and this really connects to memoirs, right,
memoirs autobiographies, when you write them, it requires the author
of that particular journey to revisit profound moments, but in
this instance, profound pain. Right, You're going back and you're
(07:50):
now having to relive a lot of these instances in
your life. I'm curious to know Joyce what was the
most emotionally challenging peace to write in this book and
why was it important to make sure that you included it?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
To know that writing this book, that all of my
family members are gone now, and that to know what
they suffered along with me suffering through this surgery, that
I had to I felt their pain reading the notes
in this book, the Little note Book. I had to
(08:31):
share that with others family members who go through the
same thing with their family who are going through the surgeries,
but not only heart surgeries, but any type of surgery,
especially children.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
People sat listen man, It's Amazon, it's Barnes and Noble.
It's author Joyce H. Hines dot com. This is one
that is going to be a remarkable journey for you
to add to your shelf. This is a gift that
is perfectly suited to give to someone else. Pick up
this amazing book, Heart of the Matter. While you're at it,
look at our other book Words from the Maestro, because
(09:08):
each one of these books have such phenomenal messages that
you're gonna be able to take to the bank and
really builds off of. So head on over there once more.
It's author Joycehheines dot com pick up your copies today, Joyce.
Something that you've already started to go into and I
know is a very big message within the book. It's
(09:28):
the process of a positive attitude, right, the message of
positive attitude, maintaining that positivity, and even in an instances,
finding a silver lining. And that's something that we often
hear about, and I know I've spoken about this a
number of times on previous broadcasts. Like I remember, I
remember when I was much younger, in late teens, early twenties,
(09:51):
when I was in college going through some difficult times.
And I remember because I've always been a very firm
believer in terms of your mentality, have the ability to
shape your reality and listen, I was. I can admit
it now that I was definitely faking it at the time,
but I was very adamant on having and maintaining a
(10:13):
positive attitude. But I like it. It wasn't always easy,
because there was definitely moments where I had to contrive
a positivity in some of my darker moments. In your experience,
was it more about finding that silver lining or forging
one through sheer will and faith?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yes, yes, faith is the top of the line. And
like you said, that positive attitude can get you a
lot easier to your goal than anything. Yes, I was
a bigger musician all my life, and one thing I
can remember is as far as a musical phase is
(10:56):
sometimes be sharp, never be flat. Would always be natural,
and that goes along with that positive attitude. A frown
is a smile that's upside down. All these little positive,
little phrases that you can find getting off on the
wrong side of the bed. No, you get on the get
get out on the bright side. Too much negativity in
(11:19):
the world. We've got to be positive and that carries
us through the day much easier than thinking on the
other side. Yeah, away with our health.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I love what you're saying here, not only as just
the mantra that you brought up. I'm definitely gonna steal
even though I'm not a I don't have a music background,
but it's going to connect to my next question in
the second. But always be sharp, never be flat. I
can't remember the end of it, but just that part,
Oh my god, that's joys. I love it. That's fantastic,
(11:54):
great message, but such a fun play with the words there.
It's a beautiful thing. But and I think the big
thing here is yes, of course, positive attitude, putting yourself
into that correct state of mind. But I also want
to make sure, like people, I get it because in
the moment, it's not as easy, right Like, sometimes you're
(12:14):
overwhelmed with the negativity, with the darkness that's around. And
I also want to make sure that I point out, Listen,
it's okay to forge it sometimes, right Like, it's okay
to fake it a bit, because when you stick with it,
I promise you. Like, one thing that I noticed just
from my own personal experience is yeah, I was faking
it at first, but because I stuck with it and
(12:35):
I was so consistent, Joyce, after a while, like I've
really I started to believe it. It really started to
implement itself and embed itself into my mind where all
of that. It's not like more positive things were happening
around me. I think it was still the exact same,
but I was just recognizing the positivity around me more
(12:57):
because I was looking for it. And that is so
key to all of this. And there's just one note,
right people, there is so much more to get into.
And the next thing that I want to go to
Joyce's I want to touch up a little bit on
that music background of yours, because I know that as
a music practitioner, you understand the healing power of sound,
(13:19):
and I think that is something incredible because also I
can relate to Again, I don't have a music go background,
but again a lot of these things happen when I
was younger, when I was just a hormonal teenager huh,
go figure. But I remember going through moments Joyce, and
it's when I was depressed, like I would put on
either some R and B or whatever, some type of
(13:40):
depressing me and it would help me work through certain
emotions or if I wanted to be up, depending on
the mood of the song that I was listening to,
it would help me through that journey and uplift my
spirits or whatever I wanted to work through. And that's
where I want to go next. Was there a specific
piece of music that you utiliz or maybe even composed
(14:01):
yourself that almost became an anthem for your recovery?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, yes, canon indeed, by I believe it's Oh it's
the most out of Beethoven. But that song resonates inside me.
We each of us has a tone that resonates in us,
and mine is d below middle C and it almost
(14:27):
makes my cells inside me vibrate. And I found that
out as I studied to become a music practitioner. Yeah,
it's fascinating how music I could adjust heart rates and
breathing patterns with one note on my fifty eighth string
hammer dulcimer. That it was fascinating. My specialty was playing
(14:53):
for dying patients, and I also played in the neonatal
unit with newborn babies, helping them relax and mothers in neighbor.
The power of music is incredible. I could go on
for an hour to tell you about that, but it's
(15:17):
just in your soul. Your whole body is music. Your
cells vibrates, you're breathing, your heart beats. It's affected by
stress and all these things. So your heart is the
center your body. And when I have all these heart
issues right now, I have two aneurysms inside me, and
(15:40):
I've had three open hearts and two strokes. But I
take a looking and keep on ticking. I was a
clown and that one of my clown names was TIMEX.
But you keep on going, keep on gooing, because God
is there with you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Joyce, What a fantastic message to close on. I had
other questions that I wanted to go into, but honestly,
that is the most profound ending that we can have
people her book, man like, it is such a reminder,
and it really is a wonderful education, right because it
teaches us that the ultimate repair, I mean, it isn't surgical, right,
(16:19):
it's the profound strength that we forge in our most
broken places. It's such a cliche, and I get it,
but like when we're going through some of our toughest times,
we actually gained the most strength and the wisdom that
we acquire through it is really setting us up for
(16:40):
future battles. And her journey is a powerful reminder that
our challenges don't define us. But now, listen, it's how
we choose to play the music of our lives, right,
and that's what absolutely defines us. This book is so powerful, man, listen.
It's Amazon as, Barnes and Noble. It's author joyceagehis dot com.
(17:02):
I know I don't have to say it because I
know you're already heading on over there and picking it up. Remember,
Heart of the Matter was the anchor for today, but
words from the Maestro. You gotta check it out as well.
Magnificent books to really help you round yourself and build
through it. It starts with these books. Head on over there,
(17:25):
pick it up, Joyce. This has been an absolute honor.
I really do mean that. Thank you once again for
being a guest. People of Distinction, Thank you Benjie.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It was exciting. Go I'd bless you.
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