Amy Pons – Connecting Your Sacred Feminine Rage with Your Healer - Perfect Life Awakening

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Hello, everyone, Welcome. I'm so excited as always to be
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it's called Royce's Ramblings excuse me, and you can follow
me on there as well. So that's enough about me.
So today I have the honor of talking with Amy Ponds,
and she's the founder of Unlock the Magic. Excuse me,
clear my throat here. It's a business and movement geared

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toward amplifying the unique brilliance I love that within each
individual soul on this plane. And she's a certified life
coach and energy healer. She has gifts of Claire sentience.
I can't say that Claire sentience and Claire cognizance, which,
by the way, every time I type that up, it

(03:02):
tells me it's misspelled.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
It drives me nuts.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
She already understands and knows where your body is trying
to get to while your brain is saying, don't you dare.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Amy shows you how.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
To understand your own energy and work with each version
of yourself to greet the infinite possibilities of a great life.
Sounds wonderful, and it's all about turning inward, as I'm
sure you realize from listening to me for a while,
and she helps you shift from I couldn't possibly to

(03:37):
I can and I will.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And I think.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
What's wonderful about your work, Amy, which is my intention
as well, is that it's about raising the vibration of
all humanity, connecting to the sacred feminine, which we're going
to talk about today, healing yourself as well as all
that stuff you brought with you from your ancestors and
past lives and all that. So today we are going

(04:03):
to talk about feminine, the sacred feminine rage, and Amy's
going to explain what all of that is. I can't
wait to hear more. And before we even get into that,
welcome Amy, I'm so glad you're here with me.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Thanks so much. As you read the bio, it's like
I used to be the person in my copy paste
autopilot days that I would have heard that been like,
what are you actually talking about? I have no idea
what you're talking about? And I find this interesting at
any given moment of how to not try to mainstream

(04:46):
the language I use. But at the same time, I
want to be able to have everyone have a baseline
understanding of energy work and just how to naturally listen
to their body. That's that's all. That's really all it is.
And if you're not ready for that, you're not ready
for that. I mean, it's just not and it may

(05:07):
not be that this lifetime, but it just makes me
kind of chuckle. Like back in my corporate dates, I
would have been like, what, like, get out of here,
tell me Like I would have been like, I don't know,
you're speaking another language, so oh.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I know, I totally get it. Yeah, but I think
people are starting to speak that language, They're starting to
understand it, and maybe even connect with it.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, it's almost like the being the beginning of twenty five.
I was starting to really do some deep research into
the year ahead, and I'm sure all of you, all
of us did in some ways. But there was this
this like message I kept getting, which was, there's going

(05:53):
to be this moment where suddenly in your daily conversations
you'll be talking about quantum, like the quantum field. I'm like, whoa,
and that actually happens. I will bring up the quantum
and talk about it and someone's like, oh yeah cool.
I'm like, ah, we're here, okay cool.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I remember when I first started taking and I say.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Things like oh, you know, the incarnation blah blah blah,
people would go what.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
And now they're like, oh yeah, tell me more. Oh yeah,
that's great.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
You know, well that used to It's funny use that
you mentioned that specifically. So the whole thing we're talking about,
everything that we're going to talk about or we've been
talking about, is of course, like my shirt says today,
I'm not for everyone. That's awesome, like we're not meant

(06:44):
to be like the whole, the whole notion that I'll
sweep for myself the way that I was brought up
that there's one right way, that there's one true truth,
that there's one leader, there's one following, there's one, there's it,
that's it, that's the whole thing. And we're like busting
out of so beautifully as always, and I'm sure you

(07:06):
have something similar. I'll be like, take what lands and
leave the rest, Like, don't just subscribe unabashedly if it's
not something that is like from your truth center, like
a full bodied yes. Like I sometimes people new to
my orbit, I'm like, if it's not a full bodied yes,
then it's a no. And they're like that panics them

(07:27):
because they're like, what about the shades of gray in life? Yeah,
the shades of gray are amazing places to start looking
into why it's a no, if you really wanted to
figure it out, but it's a no regardless.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I find Also one of the things I tell my
students all the time is if there's a part of
you that's screaming no, you know, and questioning and being skeptical,
the quote thou protestest too loudly might be something to
look at, because you know, I've had people that were
the biggest protesters of everything I'm sayingly when they got it,

(08:01):
they're like, oh I get it now, and they become
the biggest advocates and the biggest awakened people. So you
know there's that aspect to it as well.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, no, I that's absolutely right. And there was something
like beautifully about that is that their body already said yes,
which is why they took your core. Like they're in
your class, so they can absolutely like fight it, but
like there was something still that that got them in there.

(08:33):
So what I'm I'm typically referring to are like the
things like the people, places and things around you that
take you out of your like favorite self. That's more
like if that's not a full bodied yes, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, Well sounds like we've jumped right in.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
But I'd love for you, I would love for you
to tell.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Our listeners and ers tell us a little bit about
your background, How did you get into all of this?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
What got you started?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Tell us your story.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
So amazingly for those of you and and you know
you're listening to voices show you'll you may vibe with
us or not vibe with us. But something that I
now realize is that you know, children and animals, nature
are closest to the veil, the veil being which like
coming from the soul plane to this plane that's you know,

(09:32):
separating the veil. The children are closest to that. So amazingly,
what I find is that a lot of times the
conditioning of children happens pretty early on because they're not
kind of acting like the other kids or like you know,
an in tune child, which I think they all are,

(09:53):
we all are, first of all. That's why I'm like,
I know, I know, we talk about awakening versus remembering,
and it's whatever again, whatever lands with you. But I
like to say that I remembered because from from the
earliest ages I want to say, like mm hmm, I
don't know, four or five, I would stroll up to

(10:16):
adults and be like, hey, what is your stomach urt?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Or I'd be like you're not happy? Well re action
be oh, oh my god, anywhere from like well, you know,
because I was, I was telling the truth, but like
anywhere from sheer annoyance to like outrage to be like
where's your mom? Like you know, there was I don't think,

(10:43):
I mean, and this is something that maybe I'll sit
with at some point. I don't remember one adult leeting
in and being like, oh, what, what tell me more
about that? How did you know? Mostly it was like
that's creepy, stop it and so, and then, like paired
with growing up in a domestic violence home, there was

(11:06):
this constant hyper vigilance of like searching for the next
safe moment because I didn't know when that was going
to be, and also being told don't do that, like
essentially stop reading people. And again, beautifully, as a child,
I didn't know I was reading someone. I didn't know

(11:27):
what I was doing. I was like, I just I
feel something that's my clear sentience, like when I can
feel your energetic field, or I can feel something like
And it varies. I can't really explain why it works
some ways with some people in some ways with not
But like, for instance, a client told me they were

(11:48):
stung by a bee and I was like, was in
the middle of your back? And they're like, yes, oh,
like I felt it then. And then other times it's
like more vague. It's like I like, I cann't feel aura,
more like an overall vibe. So it just depends on
where I'm at in that moment with someone. But and
then the Clark cognizance is I already know, I can

(12:11):
feel what you're feeling, and then I can I already
know where your body wants to go. And again, like
you read your mind or your conditioning or whatever it is, is,
I couldn't possibly you know, I couldn't possibly go after that.
And I think that's the great kind of beautiful dichotomy

(12:32):
of being a soul spirit having a human experience. We
kind of forgot why we came here to experience the
hard thing but also get back to our soul like blueprint. Anyway,
So after four or five liked especially, it's like I
was for a long time, I was kind of my
gifts were kind of tamed out of me or disciplined

(12:58):
out of me, and but they were always there, of course,
so throughout they I I mean, from that point it
was like I went super mainstream and was like, you know,
only do things that can help you fit into the
to the cool crowd or the mainstream. So I suppressed.

(13:21):
I continued suppressing for a long time, and even though
I was always the person that always knew like what
was going on the vibe of the vibe or an
energy of a of a group of people before or
that and that no one else picked up on, and
I thought it was weird. I'm like, does this mean

(13:42):
I'm wrong? Like it? I didn't, so it wasn't. No,
I had a gift. So I was told, you know,
you're going to go to college, get a job. So
I went to college and I got a job and
jumped right into corporate America. And in that world, because
of my upbringing and domestic violence home, my comfort zone,

(14:06):
my safe place was feeling inferior or being told to
be less or having someone else be in charge. That
was my comfort So that was normal for me. That
was familiar, and again my brain was excited and happy
because that like, oh, we're safe, okay. And for the
next probably the first ten years of my career, my

(14:30):
corporate career, and I became a badass marketer. I'm in aries,
so I'm always gonna crush it always and so. But
then also what's interesting I've learned more about this in
my latter journey is that I'm a rising Libra and
I want justice. I want fairness, I want equity, I

(14:54):
want you know, I want everything to just be fair
for everyone. I want every human to be able to
lived to their fullest expression. So that was a beautiful pairing.
When I started to remember that I have gifts, I
was like, oh right, I have these cool gifts. So
around fifteen years into my corporate career, I started to

(15:15):
remember and I was like, I want to do more
than like the thing every day I was Amy Pond's title,
big company, like, you know, for that minute time, and
I was highly regarded, you know, acclaimed in the workplace,
and it just started to feel really bad. It didn't
feel like there was you know, there's there was obviously toxicity.

(15:36):
There was a lot of power over each other. I
didn't vibe with that. And I was the I was
the safe space for my team. And I became the
leader of the women's Employee Resource Group and I started coaching,
and I was like, oh, but I was not willing

(15:56):
to say I'm a coach, Like I was like, oh,
of course, I'm a leader, so I can coach. That's fine, Yeah,
of course. But it felt good. It lit me up,
and I was like, because I would, I would extract
what was already in them, like as a as a coach,
as a even as a teacher. I'm a teacher and
a healer, but it's still working with your energy to

(16:19):
extract what's already in you. So it's it's helping you
extract that, showing it to you and leading you or
guiding you how to trust that so that you can
validate for yourself and you don't need that external peace.
So a few years later, after my initial kind of
remembering and like, things got started getting really pinchy for

(16:40):
me because I was coming back to myself. My spirit team,
I swear they got in a huddle and they're like, Okay,
this is going to have to be something really intense
to get her like to scoot her like to scoot
her boot. And so they handed me like one of
the more psychologically abusive workplace for relationships, and that is

(17:08):
what led me to say, today's my last day. And
that sent shockwaves through the organization and through the community.
And because I was I was the light in corporate.
I was the one that was always bringing people up,
that was always leading morale, that was always the cheerleader,

(17:28):
that was always going to have your back. And the
light went out, you know before I left, because we
all were feeling the pinch, but even more so as
I left, I wouldn't have told you when I left
corporate that I was going to be doing all these
things or and the most important part is I didn't

(17:49):
know how I wanted to feel, which is something that
I work with a lot with people that I serve
is it's not just about what thing do you want
to do? How do you want to feel when you
do the thing? And it's more about like one of
the most I feel one of the most underestimated goals

(18:13):
or achievements, is to feel peace in this space and time,
Like true peace. You can sit still in your hearts,
are calm and relaxed. I think that is a rarity,
and that's a very it's a gem, that's a true gem.
So my like, today, before I even open my eyes,

(18:34):
I set the intention to feel calm today because I
didn't sleep well and so you know, I was like,
well I could, I could, I could feel not calm today,
So let me set the intention to feel calm, and
that's what I shall do today. So anyway, my story
is that I was a lifelong mainstreamer that was meant

(19:02):
always to be on the front lines to usher people
through their own experience of returning to self again on
their timeline, not on my agenda, but like, when you
can hear me, let's go Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
As I'm listening, I'm thinking your story is very similar
to mine, you know, just forgetting who I was and
then having the universe force it in my lap literally,
and you know, it took a while for me to
accept it, but I couldn't deny when people were arriving
all the time in my classes.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
You know that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
So I think that's pretty common that the universe just
does whatever it takes. It's like, oh, this girl isn't listening,
let's just shove her in a well direction.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yes, And because of free will, you can like. So
it's interesting, like I had this nugget when you first
started talking, when you kicked us off, Everyone's like, why
must I heal? Why must I wake up? Why must
I remember? Oh, you don't have to do anything. You
have free will on this plane. That's what's beautiful as

(20:18):
a human. And it's likely that if from your soul
blueprint you were meant to remember your soul spirit your
soul blueprint here, and you're not getting it. Three D

(20:41):
life is going to get pretty uncomfortable. And that's the
hard part because that's what leads into and I'd love
your thoughts on this. Like a lot of genuinely, we
create everything around us. Everything around us is reflection of
what's inside. And so when someone says, well, Amy, that's

(21:04):
hard because why would I possibly create misery for myself
and suffering? Fair point, And I'm not suggesting. This is
where it gets difficult because as humans we don't understand
that notion. We get it on a soul level, but like,
it's not that you're intentionally Perhaps maybe that's the Maybe

(21:28):
you're intentionally not creating misery and suffering in your life,
and there's something in you that doesn't feel that you're
either deserving of or that you have capacity for, or
that you have a limitation around that would not be

(21:48):
able to hold a higher vibration or like that thing,
that thing that you want. So that's the limitation and
that's the work, which some people are like, that's what
it's like kind of invisible? Would you say to someone
who's not It's invisible to me sometimes. And I'm an
energy I'm a light worker. I couldn't find it sometimes

(22:10):
in my immediate energy field. That's why I have support.
I have a shaman.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
You know, Yeah, well I think excuse me the word
you said, deserving. I mean, that's the core, that's what
I spend. You know, ninety percent of my teaching is
all about having people awakened to the fact that there's
a deep part of them that does not feel deserving,
and how do we clean that up? How do we
get past that? So that's what I do in my courses.

(22:36):
So do you.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
I'm assuming you help people.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, it's like, and there's this interesting again, We're in
such an interesting time and place because there is massive,
massive systemic change going on, and there's this, like I'm

(23:00):
sure you've heard it, there's a lot of thought that
people are turning so inward that they're becoming selfish or
like too individualistic, and I'm like, okay, hang on, okay.
Like everything in life, it's a balance. So we're not
suggesting when I say turn inward, I'm not suggesting you
only think about yourself my like, So to answer your question,

(23:21):
what I teach or what I help guide is by
turning inward, by choosing you, you actually choose not only
what you are bringing in, but like also what you
care about. You choose your loved ones, you choose thy neighbor,
you choose the land. By choosing you, you get to
navigate a place where you get to be a beautiful

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steward towards self, towards thy neighbor, and toward thy land.
And that to me is like being a human. That's
like what we came here to do. And if you're
not choosing yourself and you're giving up everything for everybody else,
that's also a problem. So it's like it's the balance.
So your point, yes, Like the first thing I will

(24:05):
say is like, how does your heart? Like, how's your heart?
And it's like it's so much of getting out of head,
and head can become a part of the head needs
to come with We don't ignore or suppress any part
of the energy field. But and I find that so
many of us were only taught to lead with our heads.

(24:27):
So it's getting back into your body. So I teach
that first. It's like getting back into your body. I
feel exuberant, cool, Where do you feel that? I feel
it like down in my belly awesome. And we start
talking about chakras. But to your point, we get into
the space where it's like I feel blocked, I feel stuck,

(24:48):
I feel like I can't get over the hump in
whatever that is in my life? Okay, where do you
feel that? Is there a time in your life that
that really resonates? And then we go there, you know,
like we and what about that version of you feels

(25:09):
like you didn't deserve this? Like what is what are
they feeling right now? Because they're the ones coming up
into your system fighting why, you know. And it's a
really really awesome experience when we can become the parent,
the teacher, the friend that that version of us needed

(25:33):
back then in current day. So every time that you
do that, you bring that version up along alongside you
and you get that you both get to be part
of the process until you have like all versions of
you all marching together on the same at the same time.
But that's the lifelong work.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Wow, so a little bit yeah, Yeah, that's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
It looks like we're just about midway here. And I'd
love to start talking about the title of this show,
which is connecting your sacred feminine rage with the healing
part of you or healing others, but I want to
wait until after our little break and we'll just dive
right into that.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
So if you're just tuning in for some reason.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm talking with Amy Ponds and we're talking about sacred
feminine rage.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2 (28:57):
Welcome back talking with Amy Palms and just talking about
all kinds of amazing things, of course, because you are amazing.
We just the title of the show is Connecting Your
Sacred Feminine Rage. Well, first of all, what do you
mean by sacred feminine? Let's get that kind of defined.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Sacred feminine and you've heard probably divine feminine, and there's
a new feminine being birthed, but the sacred feminine and
this hasn't nothing to do with gender. It's an internal energy,
the sacred feminine of flow, creation, trust, that has really

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been exiled for thousands of years, and we've only been
in the masculine energy, which in divine action structure has
when paired together, you can almost imagine as the divine

(30:04):
feminine creates, the divine masculine holds the structure to be
able to release it to the world when out of balance,
like we've been only in the masculine, it becomes action structure.
It's actually become power, hierarchy order. I make a face
because it's like, because like everything with balance and so beautifully,

(30:29):
I mean, as the divine feminine or that energy, flow,
creation and trust has been exiled for thousands of years,
it's now re entering and it started really catapulting all
of humanity with when Neptune entered areas in March. But

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it's been happening for a while for quite a while,
as the divine feminine is coming back in to create
the balance we've never seen in this lifetime. So as
you can imagine anyone that's been exiled, or any any
energy that's been exiled for thousands of years, there may

(31:09):
be some pent up energy. We're all full of volcanoes.
And by the way, every human, every first of all,
y'all know this. Everything is energy. Energy is everything. Every
human has both energies divine or both energies feminine masculine
inside them. And it's likely, and I'll speak for myself,

(31:33):
for forty years of my life, I was only allowed
space to show up in my masculine masculine energy. So
even me, I participated in the skewed masculine for the imbalance,
let's say, the imbalanced masculine for forty years, bringing the
divine feminine back in feeling not only what it's felt

(32:02):
like on this plane as a human to not feel equal.
And again this transcends gender, but also for those of
the who know chakras, in our sacral chakra, that's where
especially we have held the energy. Like for me, I
have the energy of thousands of women from my lineage

(32:23):
around me at any given time. Sometimes I need to
ask them to step back, but all of that energy
is within me as well, So that sacred rage bubbles
up from my lineage, from my lived experience. And it's
that it's not about the sacred rage for me and

(32:44):
I love your thoughts. The sacred feminine rage is not
about creating a villain, and it's actually not about fight,
not about war. That sacred rage actually comes up so strongly,
erupts like a volcano and then trans mutes into this
beautiful love outward to transmute even the toughest imbalanced of powers.

(33:10):
For me, that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
So how would that look in the real world, Like,
let's say, for example, a certain politician who emanates all
masculine toxic masculinity. Shall we say, let's say an incredibly
sacred female feminine rage person who's sitting in the room

(33:38):
with this person.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
What would that look? What imagine if you will?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I don't know who you're talking about. So what's beautiful
about this? And I'll I'll talk about when we feel
into the full feminine goddess. The full feminine goddess in

(34:08):
her power holds space for the most egregious, or hold
space for the most imbalanced. So I actually enjoy getting
into those rooms with those imbalanced or wounded masculine I
really enjoy it because it's actually my sacred feminine rage
that holds the space. If I entered that room as

(34:29):
a wounded feminine or like feeling into my lived experience
of the wounded feminine. We would both leave that that
would play out poorly for me, I would feel even worse.
But also they would dig deeper into the imbalanced. So interestingly,
it's not about so in your example, I would walk

(34:53):
in the room with that wounded, imbalanced masculine energy, and
as that got louder, I would get more firm and
solid and grounded in my sacred feminine rage. And I
would hold so firm that by my sheer presence, my

(35:17):
sheer existence, that imbalanced wounded masculine would begin to feel
safe in their authentic expression, and before you know it,
we would come to an understanding. And I've had this
play out in real life. So it's about holding that

(35:42):
energy so strongly that you are not there to create
a villain in that imbalanced masculine. That you're there. You're
there actually to hold them, and believe it or not,
that's the rage. The rage can hold that thousands of
years of imbalanced, of that unfairness, of that inequal of

(36:02):
all of it, The sacred rage can hold it to
the point where there's a breaking point toward the love
and the humanity. So I'll give you a personal example
I've been in those rooms and I've held my line,
I've held my magic, I've held my power, and this imbalanced,

(36:25):
wunded masculine has broken down in tears in front of me. Now,
that won't always happen that way. Sometimes they will roar
and roar and roar, and the firmer I get, the
more annoyed they get. But then guess what we part
ways and then who comes round again? Why didn't you

(36:50):
fight back?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well?

Speaker 4 (36:51):
I don't need to. They don't understand that. So the
sacred feminine rage is actually what neutralizes and balances, in
my experience, the imbalanced masculine energy that we've been seeing
thus far.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
So I guess maybe rage.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I know what you're saying that maybe rage kind of
leads people to think that you're angry and you're fighting back.
It's not really, it's just a state of empowerment.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yes, I mean, but the rage actually yeah yeah. So
as a human, of course, we think of rage as
like mad, Yeah, we're actually really angry. You want to

(37:46):
see me turn up, I'll turn up. And what's happening
inside me is that I know and I trust that
my innate power through my rage is actually how I'm
going to transmit into the neutralization and the love. So
it's not rage that it's not like rage as it

(38:07):
relates to drawing your sword that we're heading into days
where like war won't even be a thing now. So
it's almost like we channel the rage and it's not
about suppressing, it's not about hiding it. It's using that
ironclad fortress of rage to hold the line because I

(38:33):
tell you what, the imbalance expects you to draw your sword.
That's what they thrive upon, that's what they need, that's
what feeds it. So when you're able to hold that
rage into a place where it's almost like I envision it,
it's like a lava coming up and then it erupts

(38:56):
and it literally like rains down an energetic field around
you of golden warmth. That's what makes that's what helps
people start to feel or be drawn into you like
a magnet and start to feel that that safety that
they can let down their only one way that they've

(39:18):
been taught. That's not giving them a justification or a
past for how they act. And that's how And I
have to tell you, like as humans, like a lot
of us were like no, I want to get mad
and I want to draw my sword. Great, it takes
all of us right now. It's not a bad thing
if you feel like truck. This is where you go
inward again, go inward, see what you have capacity for.

(39:41):
But I actually, with all of my clients right now,
I always say, turn the volume up on that madness,
that anger, that rage, Turn it all the way up
to its fullest volume. What beautifully happens is a trans
mutation for self. When you do that, and once you

(40:04):
do that for yourself, you learn that you can do
that for others, and it's pretty amazing. So it's like
leaning into your rage.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
So I always talk about mirroring. I was on your
show and I was talking about mirroring. As you're talking,
I'm thinking. One of the things that I do when
I'm in a situation like that is I immediately turn inward.
Even when that person is sitting there with their sword out,
I turn inward and see what they're mirroring, and recognize

(40:36):
it and acknowledge it to myself. And the energy shifts
even by doing that, So it's not so much rage
at them or at being suppressed for a thousand years,
it's rage at myself. For allowing my power to be
suppressed for that long? And why did I not deserve
my power? And I do that whole little little gyration

(40:57):
in my head and things shift so I can I
can see both of those techniques.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Yea. And in the spirit of mirroring, imagine when you
have allowed the sacred rage to bubble all the way
up and out into this beautiful blanket of warmth. Well,
in mirroring, they're gonna mirror that. They're gonna be like,
oh yeah, and yeah, And believe me, it takes so

(41:25):
much work and practice, and not everyone's not everyone's willing
or wanting to lay down their sword. That's not your pet.
That's great, but it's for those who are like I know,
I'm a pioneer in this world. I know that I
meant to raise the vibration of humanity. This is how

(41:45):
you start to use the rage that's within you, that's
from your lived experience, that's from your lineage, to actually
neutralize not just the energy of like people right in
front of you, but the entire world, the entire collective.
The whole ask right now is on an energetic perspective.
It's more energy than anything that we can it's it's

(42:07):
more than anything that we can do, like in physical person.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yes, And I think people are getting to the point
where this is just not acceptable anymore. You know, when
you said war is going to be over. I mean
every time I read about somebody bombing somebody, or somebody
going to bomb somebody or creating some nuclear or something,
I just go, what has it ever worked? Have they

(42:37):
not figured out after thousands of years that it doesn't work?

Speaker 4 (42:41):
And the more we the more we tell them it
doesn't work, the more they're going to be like, I'm
gonna do more of it. So that's I'm gonna show you.
And so that's where it comes into where I'm gonna
keep saying this. It's not easy, you know, to be
so triggered sitting in front of someone that is causing

(43:02):
harm to you or your loved ones. Absolutely, and so
that's where it's just it takes a lot of like
what are you meant to do? What is your soul blueprint?
What are you here to do? And how do you
want to transmute what you're feeling inside for the betterment
of humanity? Because I used to be that, by the way,
meaning when I first left corporate.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I was so mad.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
I was so mad. I drew my sword at everyone
and everything and everything was unfair. Everything was happening to me.
That hurt. That hurt a lot, Like I was just
suffering every day. And that was kind of like what
we were talking about earlier, because I was I was
reacting to everything. You can do that again, free will

(43:45):
do whatever you're going to do. And when you are
navigating through and responding and giving it a minute to say,
like how do I want to show up as my
favorite self? Does this serve my favorite self? It was
hurting me more to draw my sword every time. First
it took a lot of energy. Second, I would typically

(44:08):
do or say something that I would later regret. It
would sit in my soul. It was sticky. So that's
the ask when you draw your sword and it becomes
sticky afterward, and it's yours, it's your work, and you're
meant to do something bigger with that rage or do

(44:29):
something more on the collective with that with your sword,
rather than just laying waste, which we all can do.
That's what we've all learned.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, So where we just recently had the fourteenth or
fifteenth whenever it was no King's Day with I've heard
it was eleven million people turned out. How do how
do you connect that with what you're talking about? Is
there a connection with that? Because people were peaceful and

(45:00):
expressing how they felt, Where does that fit.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
With the peaceful? Is absolutely that like steadiness, that's that steady, clean,
neutral energy saying like I don't want this, or or
like saying what you do want? I think what's interesting
is that the response has been, oh, we're going to
do more. So even in the moment where it was

(45:24):
like peaceful, but they don't want that. They don't they
don't want peace, they want continuing fight, so and so
like fortunately and fortunately I'm not suggesting and again do
what's best for you if you want to get out
there and do the protests, like you should do that,
like whatever you feel called to do. And with this

(45:46):
particular time and place and people, they're going to keep
deconstructing because that's what the that's what's up on deck.
They're like they don't really care, like truth, order and law,
they don't they don't care. So you can we can

(46:07):
say all that all the things that we don't want,
they're gonna be like cool, So let's start saying what
we do want, so like I have this. So for
me personally, this is like my vibe that has shifted.
I used to have these like all the say all
the sayings like smash the patriarchy and all this about
the patriarchy. Now it's I have these, all these shirts

(46:28):
that I created call it's champion the patriarchy. So I
actually want that. That's what I do want because it's
no longer about tearing anything or anyone down. So it's
that small shift. Well I don't want kings. Well what
do you want? That's what I would encourage more of

(46:50):
is talk it start start touting really loudly what you
do want, and then beautifully, like we talked about earlier,
you begin creating in your lived existence what you do want.
That's how So that would be my advice going forward
for anyone that's out there in the streets, like throughout

(47:11):
some signs of what you do want? So no kings,
So do you what do you do you want? Are
you saying you want democracy? Do you want? Like for
me personally, I would hold a sign that says, right,
you know, write every human into the constitution, not just
white men, Like that's what I want. I want the
I'm like, so like I might have to have a
sign that says rewrite the Constitution. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, well, it's like Mother Teresa used to say, I
don't go on anti war marches, I go on pro peace.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
That's exactly right. That's the difference. That's the shift. I'm
not saying that any of the protests right now are wrong,
bad anything like that. It's that we need more of
what we do actually want and what are we asking for?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, so where this might sound like a kind of
off the wall question, but as I'm listening to you,
a lot of the things that I talk about in
my course is the importance of feeling or emotions, whatever
they are.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
How does that fit with all of this or word
does it fit? I should say?

Speaker 4 (48:17):
I laugh because I just actually made this into a
T shirt because all my clients love this and they
like use it as their battle cry. They're like, feel
your feels, and so that's what we always like, I
have a group coaching container and like that's what our
little battle cry is. Okay. So it's likely that, based

(48:40):
on your upbringing or your lived experience, you weren't really
encouraged to feel your feels to the fullest extent. So
what I always encourage is when something comes up in you,
and please start feeling your body like you all of us. Okay,

(49:02):
when we're about to cry, we feel that like lump
in our throat when we might feel anxious or nervous.
So those butterflies we feel in our stomach, that is
the most beautiful invitation to get curious. So the first
is like a feeling in your body. What do you feel?
I feel butterflies, I feel lump in my throat, I
feel tightness in my chest. Okay, can you attach that

(49:27):
to a feeling or an emotion? Yeah, I feel scared,
I feel I feel mad. Great, why do you feel mad?
What person, place, or thing is in front of you
in your mind's eye that's bringing in that emotion. Then
you're starting to name things. I feel it here, this

(49:52):
is what I feel, And this is why just doing
that small exercise that we're not used to doing brings
forth an energetic shift within you. First to be able
to see it, name it, feel it, and then assess

(50:15):
it like sit with it and be like, Okay, I'm
feeling anger about this person that's taking away my rights. Okay,
what do you want? How will you feel? When you
have full rights? You start that exercise of what you

(50:36):
do want and how you will feel. Suddenly you have
a runway or a next step because you felt the
fullest expression of your feelings or emotions that was coming
up around that external action. And drawing your sword won't
take away that action, But feeling your feel to the

(50:58):
fullest expression and then identifying what you do want is
actually how you move through it and shift the collective
by even a degree toward what we're actually creating.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
What about when people can't name or even recognize what
they're feeling, that they've been so suppressed forever.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
What if they don't Yeah, what if they just can't?

Speaker 5 (51:28):
You know?

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I find that a lot of times with my students.
They're like they're so disconnected from everything that they don't
even realize that they're angry or they they're so they're
so quickly cover it all up by oh, you know,
Pollyanna idea.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Assuming that they are wanting to because I think there
has to be a will to want to be like,
I can't feel it, Okay, tell me more about that, like,
unpack it. Why don't you feel where'd that come from?
So it takes a I feel it takes it takes
a bigger preamble or work leading into that how to feel.

(52:03):
It's not going to be as easy as be like, Okay,
tell me, there's gonna be some pre work there, but
you gotta I find Again. I was confused by the
question because I'm like, well, you got to you gotta
want to find it? Which is I feel a big
difference because forcing anything is more of the same.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, I think people are so afraid of emotions. It's like, God,
it's just an emotion.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
And that's where I like, I poke the bear on that.
If someone's trying to get to a feeling, it's it's
a fun exercise.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I can only imagine what you do.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Wow, So we only have a couple of minutes left.
Why don't you tell us all the things that you
offer and who you would like to reach out to you? Yes,
do your proble.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Thing so you can find me at unlockthmagic dot org.
And and I'm getting ready to do a revamp on
my website. But a few key offers that are coming
up that I want to make sure to promote is
one my group coaching container, which is called the collective Magic,
and we all get together, we share what's on our heart,
and we move through what is real in that moment.

(53:18):
And what I do is I pull a common thread
through the group container, and what ends up happening is
this beautiful revelation through each other's shared experience, but also
leaning into each other's experience as we share through the group.
And it's over a three month period. And then I'm
also launching Magic School, which is an intro for those

(53:39):
people who are like, how do I feel this might
be good for you? So Magic School is starting to
not only pay attention to what you already know inside,
but you start to learn how to feel it, how
to trust it, and how to validate it for yourself
using very physical, tangible tools like whether it be cards

(54:01):
or elemental magic like we're gonna play. So it's really
returning into what you already know and feel, and further
to be able to navigate it and use it in
your daily world. So beyond those two that are coming up,
I offer, of course, one to one coaching and energy
healing ceremonies such as moon chakra balancing and sacred Womb healing,

(54:24):
which is super powerful for the sacred rage and so
come and find me. I'd love to have a chat.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
So one final statement, what would you like.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
To leave people with today?

Speaker 4 (54:45):
It's already in you, it being where you're trying to
go next, and your brain likely won't want you to
go there because it's unfamiliar. So find someone you trust
to walk alongside you.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
That's great, And I just want to share a quote
that you sent me. The world deserves your unique brilliance,
your magic show us.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I just love that.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Thank you so much, Amy, and reach out to her
and reach out to me, and let's change the world.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Because the world deserves.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
To shift into a magical, beautiful higher consciousness place, which.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Is where we're going.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Thank you again, and I'll see you guys next Wednesday.

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